WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 You're listening to the Bible guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:07.480 practical ways. 4 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:17.120 Well, good morning, there it is, good morning, we talk through. 5 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:21.000 Good morning, Good morning to you and you and you 6 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:25.719 in the morning in the morning. We love to stay 7 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:29.519 up late in the morning in the morning with you. 8 00:00:29.640 --> 00:00:32.359 Wow, there you go. How awesome is this we got? 9 00:00:32.520 --> 00:00:34.240 We got a double verse two verses. 10 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:39.719 Second, Hey you morning, everybody. Welcome to the Bible guys. 11 00:00:40.039 --> 00:00:44.200 We are Chris and Jeff. Yes, yes, and we are Yes, 12 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:44.759 that's who we are. 13 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:45.679 Jeff, that's correct. 14 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:48.280 And we are about to launch into a brand new 15 00:00:48.359 --> 00:00:51.880 beatitude today Matthew, Chapter five, verse ten. 16 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:53.439 But before we do, excited about. 17 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:58.039 It, Desiree says this, the Winter Olympics are about to start, 18 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:01.600 so let's do a dr list of our favorite Winter 19 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:02.640 Olympic sports. 20 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:04.480 Well, you just commented on and I could't figure out 21 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:05.640 what you were talking about. The Winter Olympics. 22 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:06.040 There it is. 23 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:07.680 I didn't know. That's what we're doing. Great. I should 24 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:08.359 have prepped this one. 25 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:10.120 Yeah, well I'm gonna read it. I'm gonna read a list. 26 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:12.200 Okay, okay, so do rock paper scissors? 27 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:14.680 So you can just go first each of them draft five, 28 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:16.200 So we'll do one through three shoot. 29 00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:21.599 Eddy one two three shoot. I didn't pay for heated, 30 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:25.079 I won because you've been choosing rock lately. Yes, And 31 00:01:25.359 --> 00:01:26.879 so you went scissors. 32 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:28.560 Yes I did. I should have taken right, Okay, So 33 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:30.879 I typed in because I just wanted to remind myself. 34 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:33.239 What are what? Give me a list of winter of 35 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:39.680 Olympic sports? And it says it is biatha on biathlon, biathlon, 36 00:01:40.519 --> 00:01:45.439 bob slang, curling, curling. That's so funny. Who would ever 37 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:46.599 say that's their favorite? 38 00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:47.079 Maybe you? 39 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:50.040 I don't know. Ice hockey, what is that? 40 00:01:50.079 --> 00:01:54.879 Lose lose lose. That's the fastest fastest sport in Oh. 41 00:01:54.879 --> 00:01:55.959 Yeah, yeah, I know what that is. 42 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:56.640 I know what it is. 43 00:01:56.959 --> 00:02:01.480 And then figure skating or skating, speed skating, speed skating, 44 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:07.760 short track speed skating, ski, mountaineering, ski, cross country skiing, jumping, skiing, 45 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:10.919 nord skiing, all the other skiings combined, and snowboarding. 46 00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:14.240 That's not all of them though, oh, because they also do, 47 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:18.360 like the shooting ones. What are those? Oh? Is that 48 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:20.520 the complete list or is that a summary list? Well? 49 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:21.879 I asked for a complete list. 50 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:27.000 I know, but you're reading the do We're like a 51 00:02:27.039 --> 00:02:28.360 couple of men trying to figure ot how to use 52 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:30.000 the phone? How do you use this thing? 53 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:32.639 Well, I keep on in the well, you know why 54 00:02:32.680 --> 00:02:35.919 I went ahead and put it on. I always try 55 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:36.759 to put it on silence. 56 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:38.599 How many sports are in the Winter Olympics? 57 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:46.159 Here you go. It says there are eight sports and 58 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:47.879 fifteen disciplines. 59 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:50.759 Okay, and these are that's it? Okay, So it must 60 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:54.240 be the Nordic skiing one, okay? Or did they take 61 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:57.400 the shooting step out? Maybe I don't know anyways, all right, 62 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:00.120 so we're going to vote, all right, you gotta pickure one. 63 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:03.039 So we're picking five apiece, and there's only eight sports. 64 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:05.120 Three apiece. Since you've already wasted. 65 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:06.599 Three minutes, okay, go ahead, all right, number one. 66 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:09.439 Here's what I'll say. I will say my favorite to watch, 67 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:14.520 honestly is the figure skating ice skating thing really well, 68 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:18.439 because it's the most like I like, I love I 69 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:21.759 love the skiing. But nobody does anything different. But with 70 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:24.080 with with skating they do different things. 71 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:29.319 And there's music. They're singing and dancing, right and somebody 72 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:33.120 sequence bright lights. 73 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:43.759 Chris is right up your ally, ud be quiet, I 74 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:45.879 just I just mean it's adressive. 75 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:49.000 Hey, my my wife and daughter will watch that, and 76 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:50.520 then I'll be in there too, and we'll be we'll 77 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:50.919 be arguing. 78 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:55.080 I see your wife and daughter watch it, and you 79 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:55.840 watch your butter. 80 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:57.879 Fall, I will I watch it. I watch it. Yeah, 81 00:03:57.919 --> 00:03:59.800 well I wouldn't turn it on to watch it. 82 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:02.120 I feel so manly right now. 83 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:04.719 So mine was going to be hockey. So that's a 84 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:07.719 I like hockey. Yeah, I like going. You know, we 85 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:10.919 live here in Michigan. I grew up in Michigan, and uh, 86 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:12.599 when I was in high school, I used to go, 87 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:14.960 we pay seven bucks, go sit right on the glass 88 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:17.160 at a minor league hockey thing, and we would get 89 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:20.279 one fight for every dollar we spent. And that was 90 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:20.920 that was it. Man. 91 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:22.399 Well I'll tell you what. 92 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:25.000 Seven That's how I've. 93 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:27.439 Been to my share of Red Wings games. And I 94 00:04:27.480 --> 00:04:30.439 have definitely tried to watch my share of Red Wings games. 95 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:33.839 And I've determined with hockey, I like it in person 96 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:36.759 a lot, and I don't like to watch it on TV. 97 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:39.519 Oh really, I just don't like it on TV. 98 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:41.680 I just don't love it, don't love it all right, Well, 99 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:43.000 hockey is it okay? 100 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:45.720 And I can still remember when the US beat Russia 101 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:49.839 the Miracle on Ice. I remember watching that game. 102 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:54.199 Yeah, okay, I'm gonna say my next one is it's 103 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:55.560 going to be the ski jump. 104 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:57.920 Isn't that a neat one? I was going to claim 105 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:01.240 that one too. That's a good one only because you think, Okay, 106 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:03.800 this guy might die and then he doesn't die any well, 107 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:05.000 maybe this guy might die. 108 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:06.680 Well, I got it, I gotta say. 109 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:10.240 I I just I'm fascinated with, you know, with just 110 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:14.040 the idea that they're so calm and composed and they 111 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:16.639 lean into the wind and then they land perfectly. I'm thinking, 112 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:19.639 she whizz uh. You know, it takes a lot, a 113 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:21.879 lot of strength and composure to do all that. 114 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:27.040 So I like the the fast ones, like like the luge. 115 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:30.399 These guys are doing like seventy miles an hour some 116 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:34.120 crazy thing down the ice. And it's again, they might die, right, 117 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:36.079 So there seems to be a theme for me. They 118 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:39.040 might die or they might fight. Those are the right, 119 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:42.240 That's so good? Yeah, So I like those the bob 120 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:44.480 sled one that lose. Those are basically the same, but 121 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:45.759 I think they count as two different things. 122 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:47.800 Yep, all right, then I'll choose lose. I'll choose my 123 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:51.480 third on Bob Slid. Yeah, it is, it is so 124 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:54.079 I love I love Bob Slid. It's very interesting and 125 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:57.279 uh and I always, I always just love to watch 126 00:05:57.319 --> 00:05:59.839 the turns, especially you know they go around the turns 127 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:02.079 and there's always a camera there and whoa, they whip 128 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:03.879 around the way up on that side. 129 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:07.240 I have a friend that was a US Bob's letter 130 00:06:07.319 --> 00:06:08.560 for the US Olympics. 131 00:06:08.680 --> 00:06:09.000 Wow. 132 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:14.800 Yeah, yeah, Chimpminton and he was a wrestler for WWF 133 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:18.399 and WWE. He was mister world class afterwards. And it 134 00:06:18.519 --> 00:06:21.439 was after they they it was he was on the 135 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:26.600 he was the pusher on the team that finally got 136 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:29.480 I forgot it was bronze or silver. It was like 137 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:32.920 the first medal we'd gotten in Bob sled in decades. 138 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:34.680 The pusher is the most important person. 139 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:37.800 Yeah, and uh so he you know, he's huge, he's 140 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:40.720 like six to three probably probably ways two eighty five, 141 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:44.920 solid muscle. And then when he got out of the 142 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:48.519 Bob sledding thing, he had a tattoo of the Olympic 143 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:51.480 rings on there and it's a world class and so 144 00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:53.399 then he was mister world class in the w we 145 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:53.879 for a while. 146 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:55.600 Did he get like really fat? Now the rings are 147 00:06:55.600 --> 00:06:57.600 like Drea not. 148 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:00.920 Last time I saw him, he could still beat us up. Okay, Yeah, 149 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:02.800 so that was kind of neat, and he talked all 150 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:04.639 about prepping for that and stuff. It's pretty neat. 151 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:07.079 Because I always wonder when people get multiple tattoos or 152 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:09.879 actually like a lot of tattoos, which I like. I 153 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:12.680 like ink on skin. I think it's really cool. Especially 154 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:15.120 I'm an artist, right, so so that whole art thing 155 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:19.439 is what I really like. And but when people's bodies 156 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:24.279 change a lot, the tattoos sometimes become change a lot. Yes, 157 00:07:24.399 --> 00:07:26.920 they change a lot as well. Right, So, my brother 158 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:30.399 Donnie had a unicorn and it was like this slender 159 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:33.319 looking unicorn and then later on his arms get really thick, 160 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:36.279 like look wide like fat, and it just became this 161 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:39.720 pudgy unicorn, you know, and just like that's hilarious. 162 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:43.720 Okay, do I have one more? You do? Okay? I 163 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:46.519 am not lying when I tell you I watch curling? 164 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:49.360 Do you really I do? Yeah? Promise you. 165 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:51.319 Yeah, it's so exciting. 166 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:54.079 It's kind of it's a neat game, and it's it's 167 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:56.000 kind of neat. And my brother and I used to 168 00:07:56.079 --> 00:08:00.120 hunt up in northern Michigan and in Lewiston, where we 169 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:05.439 would often stay. There's a curling club in Lewiston, and 170 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:08.079 so on a couple of occasions, I went across the 171 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:10.079 street from where we were staying. We're going there and 172 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:11.600 just watch the guys push. It's kind of a neat 173 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:12.199 it's a neat game. 174 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:15.759 Yeah, I'm sorry, but it's it's every single thing is 175 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:16.319 the same. 176 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:21.519 It's the same. Well, if you like horseshoes, or if 177 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:25.360 you like what's the bean bag toss cornhole, it's the same, 178 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:28.519 but it's on ice. Shuffle board, Yeah, it's on ice. 179 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:30.240 And that's it. It's a fun game. 180 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:33.879 Okay, yeah, all right, so there it is, all right, good. 181 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:37.120 Job us man, we nailed it. We covered six of 182 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:41.960 the eight eight events in the or sports in the 183 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:44.080 think so which ones do we leave off? Which ones 184 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:46.320 we hate? Which ones were on that list that we 185 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:54.639 left off on purpose? Nordic skiing, biathlon and biathlon? Biathlon 186 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:56.240 is the one that we skiing shoot. 187 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:58.200 I think cross country skiing is the worst. 188 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:04.759 Yeah, yeah, that's cross country anything except driving, right Okay, Well, hey. 189 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:07.720 Well I'll tell you what a lot of people Jeff 190 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:13.600 when they are winners of gold medals, the other countries 191 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:14.519 persecute them. 192 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:17.039 Is that true? Is that true? That's the fact it 193 00:09:17.039 --> 00:09:17.440 has to be. 194 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:19.519 Yeah, right, that wouldn't you think? 195 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:22.360 Yeah, okay, yeah, okay, Well, but you know. 196 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:25.320 What they should do. They should, they should they should 197 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:28.399 treat them well because the Bible says they'd be blessed. 198 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:30.840 Yeah, well, here it is. And that was one of 199 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:34.000 the worst transitions we've ever done, which, if you're new 200 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:37.039 to the show, we do that on purpose. Yes, So 201 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:40.159 in Matthew chapter five, verse eleven, Jesus says, blessed are 202 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:44.639 you when people mock you and persecute you and lie 203 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:48.080 about you and say all sorts of evil things against you, 204 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:52.039 because you're my followers, be happy about it. Be very 205 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:54.960 glad for a great reward awaits you in heaven. And 206 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:57.879 remember the ancient prophets were persecuted in the same way. 207 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:02.720 Well I read that, and I go, really, Jesus, of 208 00:10:02.799 --> 00:10:04.559 all these all the other ones, I kind of like 209 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:05.240 this one. 210 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:10.720 I'm like, yes, well, I got to be honest. It's 211 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:13.000 it's almost like the Book of James. Remember when it says, 212 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:18.360 blesses the man who endures temptation, Right, or endures trials 213 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:19.159 and tribulations. 214 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:20.720 Count it, Count it all joy. 215 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:23.320 Count it all joy. It's sort of like the same thing. 216 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:25.080 It's like, wait a minute, I'm not going to count 217 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:27.600 it all joy. When I go through the worst, and 218 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:30.159 I'm talking about trials and tribulations. I'm talking about the 219 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:34.679 heavy ones, right, the ones that don't feel good. And this, this, 220 00:10:34.679 --> 00:10:36.759 this gives me that type of feeling. Here. You know, 221 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:40.879 the people lie about you, people persecute you, people will 222 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:43.600 hurt you, and they do all of this because you're 223 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:46.759 my followers. And uh and and really what he's saying 224 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:49.919 is is, you know, when you pay the price for 225 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:52.480 your faith, when you stand up and do what is right, 226 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:56.879 and when you stand for Jesus and people radically oppose you. 227 00:10:57.840 --> 00:11:02.919 Blessed are you who you know are persecuted because of faith? Now? 228 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:06.080 Have you ever been? I know you have? 229 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:06.559 Have you ever? 230 00:11:06.639 --> 00:11:08.559 Can you ever think of a time where you were 231 00:11:08.559 --> 00:11:11.039 persecuted publicly for faith? 232 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:16.120 Yeah? Yeah, on multiple occasions, even young in my faith 233 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:21.200 as a as a kid, as a teenager, multiple times 234 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:22.480 I used to have kids who beat me up in 235 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:26.320 school over because I was always a fighter. And then 236 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:29.440 suddenly I wouldn't fight anymore. And kids would punch me. 237 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:31.960 How about now Christian? Right? They would literally do that 238 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:35.840 to me, beat me again, beat me again. And I 239 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:37.480 can remember going to my dad. My dad said, listen, 240 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:41.799 if they're taking your lunch, break their nose. If they're 241 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:45.840 beating you up because you're a Christian, take it. And 242 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:49.240 I remember going and so I can remember taking hits 243 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:53.679 as a kid. You know, protect your property if that's all. 244 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:56.840 This isn't a faith thing. But if they're beating you 245 00:11:56.919 --> 00:12:00.559 because you're a Christian, he said, how are you going 246 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:02.279 to prove that you're any different than them if you 247 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:06.200 fight them back? And I remember thinking, man, that's a 248 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:08.440 tough one, but I did it. I can remember same 249 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:11.360 thing with coaches. I had coaches do that. But then 250 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:16.799 I was working in Chicago with gangs and we had 251 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:21.480 some gang members decided to come after us, not because 252 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:25.120 we were out of place in their neighborhood, but because 253 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:28.159 we were Christians, and they smashed out our windows. And 254 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:31.200 they matter of fact, they come right, they smashed out 255 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:33.600 our windows. We go running around the corner. It was 256 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:37.120 a couple of about fifteen year olds. I was nineteen twenty, 257 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:40.159 that's about twenty twenty one, come run around the corner 258 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:42.919 and realize they had baited us into a back alley 259 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:45.440 where they are about fifteen guys with bats and chains, 260 00:12:46.360 --> 00:12:48.320 and it was all these eighteen nineteen twenty year olds, 261 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:50.320 So it was two fifteen year olds. I thought, oh, 262 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:52.320 we're gonna beat these kids up. And then we get 263 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:53.960 around the corner and it was just that they were 264 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:57.519 baiting us into that area so they could beat us up, 265 00:12:57.559 --> 00:13:01.039 and they sent the message, we don't like you or 266 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:05.080 your Jesus, and that's what therefore we got away. We 267 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:08.799 wound up not uh getting beat up too bad, but 268 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:12.639 we got away. But that was the message they were sending. So, yeah, 269 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:15.759 that's happened. And then other things throughout my life and 270 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:17.919 even in some of the missionary stuff that we do. Yeah, 271 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:19.559 very clearly, it's it's an issue. 272 00:13:19.639 --> 00:13:23.600 So my son was attending Moody Bible Institute in Chicago. 273 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:24.360 Did you know? 274 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:28.480 He went there for semester and uh, semester and a half. 275 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:31.799 Actually the undergrad stuff is free. Yeah, you can go 276 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:34.240 to Moody Bible Institute. Yeah, he free. He was he 277 00:13:34.279 --> 00:13:35.559 was paying the undergrad He was. 278 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:38.559 Paying room and board though. But but yeah, the actual 279 00:13:38.720 --> 00:13:41.799 you know, education classes. Yeah, curses per portion was free. 280 00:13:42.120 --> 00:13:46.200 So he was walking back from his job in downtown Chicago. 281 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:48.320 He had well, he had to walk like six blocks 282 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:51.440 to work, and he worked as he worked as a 283 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:54.000 balloon twister in restaurants. 284 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:55.639 Oh cool, and then people would tip them. 285 00:13:55.679 --> 00:13:58.159 You know, he made ed de Bevick's. 286 00:13:58.360 --> 00:13:59.960 Is that where he worked? Oh, I have no idea 287 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:02.080 because they used to have balloon twisters anyway, but. 288 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:04.440 Anyway, but but he but he made tremendously good money. 289 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:07.440 It was really good. So he's walking back to his 290 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:12.559 dorm and he approaches the city block that Moody is on. 291 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:15.559 So there's like one big, huge city block and his 292 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:18.240 dorm is on that block. But there's a big field 293 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:21.440 and uh, and so he sort of crosses the street 294 00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:24.480 and he's walking toward his dorm and I am currently 295 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:27.279 on the phone with him, right because he would often 296 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:31.679 call me on this walk back to the dormitory. And 297 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:35.679 there was a gang of people who jumped him and 298 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:39.039 beat him up. And they said that they did that 299 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:44.200 because they didn't like the Christians who went to Moody. 300 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:48.679 So there's this gang and they and they verbally attacked him. 301 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:50.480 When when when I was. I was listening to it 302 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:54.039 on the phone, and uh, and then the phone goes 303 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:56.840 dead as I hear him getting beat up. Then the 304 00:14:56.879 --> 00:15:00.440 phone was dead. Wow, Well he's he's fine, all Midley 305 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:04.200 and he gets up and he you know, they threw 306 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:06.519 eggs at him, and he had this jacket, this really 307 00:15:06.519 --> 00:15:09.399 expensive jacket, so he threw that away and he was 308 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:12.679 covered in eggs and they'd beat him up, and you know, 309 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:14.320 he kicked him and everything else. So he had to 310 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:15.679 get up and he had to go like take a 311 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:19.120 shower immediately, so he didn't answer his phone. So imagine me, 312 00:15:19.879 --> 00:15:22.519 I'm on the phone with him, I hear him getting attacked. 313 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:24.519 By when you're five hours away and I'm five hours away. 314 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:27.399 It goes silent as I hear him getting beat up, 315 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:31.159 goes dead. I call back one hundred times, no answer 316 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:33.600 because he's taking care of business in the shower, you know, 317 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:36.519 just getting all the eggs off him, and I'm thinking, 318 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:41.679 what am I thinking? Right? So anyway, it was very 319 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:46.240 very traumatic for me, nonetheless, But that's what steps out 320 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:50.559 in my mind every time it says persecuted for faith. 321 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:54.320 He was he was beat up just because he was 322 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:55.320 a Bible College student. 323 00:15:56.480 --> 00:15:59.279 There's a note in the Life Application Study Bible that says, 324 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:02.039 g this is said to be happy when we're persecuted 325 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:05.440 for our faith. And then it gives reasons why persecution 326 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:09.879 could be good. Right, But man, these are very humbling 327 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:13.440 to me because they don't feel good. Persecution can be 328 00:16:13.480 --> 00:16:16.320 good because one, it takes our eyes off earthly rewards, 329 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:20.120 so it really it reminds us what's most important, and 330 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:24.360 we forget that this isn't really home. We're just travelers 331 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:28.759 passing through, right, So that's one. Two, it strips away 332 00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:33.480 superficial belief right when you're being persecuted, you find out 333 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:36.360 do you really believe this or not? When you're being 334 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:42.320 persecuted for your faith, do you really believe it? Number Three, 335 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:45.519 it strengthens our faith if we endure. If you make 336 00:16:45.559 --> 00:16:49.039 it through it, and you endure, you know, okay, God 337 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:51.320 will carry me through this. God can even help me 338 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:54.080 through this bad thing. And then for it serves as 339 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:56.879 an example to others who follow as they see the 340 00:16:56.879 --> 00:16:59.360 way that we live while going through it. Because persecution 341 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:01.720 is going to continue happening. The next generation is going 342 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:03.559 to be persecuted. The only way they're going to make 343 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:05.160 it through is knowing that others have made it through 344 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:08.079 right right, That's it and it so we can be 345 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:12.440 comforted knowing that God's greatest prophets were persecuted, including Elijah, Jeremiah, 346 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:15.200 and Daniel. The fact that Christians in many times and 347 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:18.079 places around the world have been persecuted as evidence of faithfulness. 348 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:22.440 Faithless people would be unnoticed and we wouldn't remember them. 349 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:25.880 In the kingdom, God will reward the faithful by receiving 350 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:30.240 them into his eternal kingdom where no one will face persecution. 351 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:33.000 So there's a couple of things. One is you're going 352 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:35.240 to find out what you really believe. You don't know 353 00:17:35.279 --> 00:17:38.559 what you really believe when everything's easy, right, that old 354 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:40.960 gospel song we talk of faith when we're up on 355 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:47.119 the mountain, when talk comes so easy, when life's at 356 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:49.880 its best. Yeah, But it's down in the valleys of 357 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:52.680 trials and temptations. That's when we when our faith is 358 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:53.559 really put to the test. 359 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:55.519 It's so funny that you thought of an old gospel song. 360 00:17:55.559 --> 00:17:58.680 I was thinking of Steve Green's all who come behind 361 00:17:58.720 --> 00:17:59.519 us fine as faithful? 362 00:17:59.519 --> 00:18:00.480 Oh yeah, May the. 363 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:03.160 Fire of our devotion light their way. May the footprints 364 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:05.480 that we leave lead them to believe in the life 365 00:18:05.480 --> 00:18:06.759 we live, inspire them to obey. 366 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:11.519 Yea. So there is this idea that the fact that 367 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:14.839 we have great people who came behind us that are 368 00:18:16.279 --> 00:18:20.000 are continuing or that that then inspire us. And then 369 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:21.960 there's going to be I mean, people who came before 370 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:24.680 us that inspired us, and then there's going to be 371 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:29.079 people behind us, right that will be inspired by our decisions. 372 00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:33.799 And that's been that way. John Fox wrote that the 373 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:37.319 that the persecution of the saints, the blood of the martyrs, 374 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:40.680 the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church. 375 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:43.319 And that's true, and that's been true all around the world. 376 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:47.839 Were you with us at the Timothy Initiatives Global Partners 377 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:51.640 weekend when we showed that video of that guy who 378 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:54.960 was sitting on his phone and he texted he sent 379 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:58.680 us of video saying they're threatening to kill me and 380 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:00.680 I'm not afraid to die, but what a up my children? 381 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:03.240 His wife had died, I don't think so. And he 382 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:06.880 was asking what do we do? So he was planting 383 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:08.319 a church in an area that had a bunch of 384 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:14.279 radical Hindus that just kill and they burned down ninety 385 00:19:14.359 --> 00:19:16.759 churches and they did all kinds of just horrible things 386 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:21.319 towards the Christians. They hate Christianity in that area, and 387 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:24.960 not all Hindus do, but in that area there is 388 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:28.400 a radical group of violent Hindus. And so they threatened him, 389 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:31.640 if you preach the gospel here, we will kill you. 390 00:19:32.279 --> 00:19:34.079 And they put them on notice, and they left messages 391 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:36.119 and they let the children know. His wife had just 392 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:39.559 died from kidney failure. And so here's a single dad 393 00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:42.160 raising his two kids and they say we're going to 394 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:44.720 kill you and your kids. So he sent us a 395 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:46.960 video and he said, what do I do. I'm not 396 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:48.880 afraid to die, just tell me what I do. What 397 00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:53.200 do I do with my children? Right? And he sent 398 00:19:53.279 --> 00:19:55.440 us a message, I'm going to go preach the gospel anyways, 399 00:19:55.480 --> 00:19:58.279 otherwise how are they ever going to hear? So some 400 00:19:58.359 --> 00:20:01.200 of our team intervened, They jumped in, they pulled him 401 00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:03.720