1 00:00:47,969 --> 00:00:48,479 Abby: All right. 2 00:00:48,539 --> 00:00:51,434 Here we are . Welcome to today's episode. 3 00:00:51,614 --> 00:00:52,514 Hello Fallon. 4 00:00:52,716 --> 00:00:56,360 Hi, Abby . today we're gonna be talking about very important topic 5 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,140 that as I was telling Fallon before we got on this, I went down to write 6 00:01:00,145 --> 00:01:04,920 notes about it and was basically started writing a freaking essay. 7 00:01:05,090 --> 00:01:08,850 So, apparently, We have a lot to say on this topic, which is gonna 8 00:01:08,850 --> 00:01:11,790 be all about body image today. 9 00:01:12,402 --> 00:01:12,912 Fallon: Yeah. 10 00:01:12,912 --> 00:01:16,212 I think we both have such a deep journey with our own body image as well as 11 00:01:16,212 --> 00:01:21,522 guiding women through theirs, that it's gonna be another episode that. 12 00:01:22,202 --> 00:01:25,832 We're gonna, it'll be interesting how to tie this up, . I know. 13 00:01:26,612 --> 00:01:28,772 How do we, how do we put a bow on this at the end? 14 00:01:28,982 --> 00:01:29,702 But cuz it's an 15 00:01:29,702 --> 00:01:31,772 Abby: ongoing, it is an ongoing thing. 16 00:01:31,772 --> 00:01:35,702 And I guess I will say I didn't write any notes, so this might be something to come 17 00:01:35,702 --> 00:01:41,102 back to, but I didn't write any notes necessarily about, um, body image for men. 18 00:01:41,162 --> 00:01:44,462 This is really for me, more focused on body image for women. 19 00:01:44,852 --> 00:01:45,032 Yes. 20 00:01:45,062 --> 00:01:47,612 Um, so I guess I wanna say that in the beginning that this is 21 00:01:47,612 --> 00:01:50,222 gonna be definitely more focused towards the women's perspective. 22 00:01:51,217 --> 00:02:00,182 . Um, but I mean, one of the things we both touched on is how the 23 00:02:00,182 --> 00:02:02,612 patriarchy ties into all of this. 24 00:02:03,182 --> 00:02:04,382 Yes. 25 00:02:04,502 --> 00:02:07,772 And I think we could probably both go on for days about the patriarchy, but 26 00:02:08,772 --> 00:02:09,262 Fallon: Yeah. 27 00:02:09,542 --> 00:02:12,842 And we can, you know, we can make the patriarchy as bad as we want. 28 00:02:13,697 --> 00:02:16,622 . Um, but we didn't know better than to buy into it. 29 00:02:16,982 --> 00:02:17,372 Yeah. 30 00:02:17,642 --> 00:02:20,462 So there's also this self responsibility that we get to take that like, okay, 31 00:02:20,462 --> 00:02:23,072 yes, this is the pressures that we received from society and the 32 00:02:23,072 --> 00:02:27,962 patriarchy and that women needed to act and look and be a certain way 33 00:02:27,967 --> 00:02:30,152 to be accepted or, or have value. 34 00:02:30,152 --> 00:02:35,162 And also we all unconsciously chose that because we didn't know better. 35 00:02:35,167 --> 00:02:38,837 And now that we know better, , we get to pull that responsibility back and really 36 00:02:38,837 --> 00:02:44,267 do our self-love and like really the nurturing of what we most need around body 37 00:02:44,267 --> 00:02:49,037 image, because it is such a vulnerable, I mean, even still, you know, I mm-hmm. 38 00:02:49,117 --> 00:02:53,057 I think for both of us and for many women, as much as we've really deepened 39 00:02:53,057 --> 00:02:57,227 into the appreciation of our bodies, It's still really sensitive and really 40 00:02:57,227 --> 00:02:59,417 vulnerable and can bring up a lot. 41 00:02:59,417 --> 00:03:04,247 So as you listen, I think just be really, just notice what's happening in 42 00:03:04,247 --> 00:03:05,567 your body as you're listening to this. 43 00:03:05,572 --> 00:03:06,317 Notice what's coming up. 44 00:03:06,317 --> 00:03:06,407 Mm-hmm. 45 00:03:06,652 --> 00:03:11,747 and just, just stay really present and love on you, um, through this, but also. 46 00:03:12,947 --> 00:03:13,217 Yeah. 47 00:03:13,367 --> 00:03:14,327 Abby: Step into this more. 48 00:03:14,657 --> 00:03:14,987 Yeah. 49 00:03:14,987 --> 00:03:18,797 Notice the places where you might be buying into things that you don't 50 00:03:18,797 --> 00:03:20,507 realize that you're buying into things. 51 00:03:20,987 --> 00:03:21,077 Mm-hmm. 52 00:03:21,317 --> 00:03:26,057 or the way that you might be noticing a girl on Instagram and you notice that 53 00:03:26,057 --> 00:03:27,587 she's really pretty and she's really. 54 00:03:28,322 --> 00:03:31,352 Thin or appears to have the best body. 55 00:03:31,352 --> 00:03:36,842 And then you look at yours and you know, you have the whole comparison and shame, 56 00:03:37,082 --> 00:03:39,212 you know, component playing into that. 57 00:03:39,422 --> 00:03:43,442 Cuz I think that's, that's probably where it, it hits us the most nowadays is in 58 00:03:43,442 --> 00:03:47,912 social media, you know, and obviously like in TV and film and all of that stuff, but 59 00:03:47,912 --> 00:03:52,472 like social media is a part of our, for I would say, most people's daily life. 60 00:03:53,072 --> 00:03:58,877 And it is such a, I mean, it's all kind of a racket, you know, cuz 61 00:03:58,877 --> 00:04:01,097 we're all just showing many, oh gosh. 62 00:04:01,097 --> 00:04:02,447 I have an aunt crawling on me. 63 00:04:02,777 --> 00:04:03,407 Amazing. 64 00:04:03,797 --> 00:04:04,607 That, what does that mean? 65 00:04:04,817 --> 00:04:05,297 Um, 66 00:04:05,747 --> 00:04:06,107 Fallon: yeah. 67 00:04:06,107 --> 00:04:09,317 Well, and you know, so I'm, I'm a, I'm a Tad bitt older. 68 00:04:09,317 --> 00:04:14,207 I'm an early eighties baby, and so my space was really big, you know, when 69 00:04:14,207 --> 00:04:19,832 I was in my early twenties and, I remember my girlfriends and I instantly 70 00:04:20,162 --> 00:04:22,862 Abby: feeling smaller 71 00:04:23,342 --> 00:04:26,972 Fallon: as we entered the MySpace world of the MySpace models. 72 00:04:27,527 --> 00:04:30,377 You know, there was like Tela tequila and there was all these really, 73 00:04:30,377 --> 00:04:31,637 and I remember we would see wow. 74 00:04:31,637 --> 00:04:31,937 A name. 75 00:04:33,017 --> 00:04:33,527 Abby: Oh, do you? 76 00:04:33,532 --> 00:04:34,587 You haven't heard that in so long. 77 00:04:34,587 --> 00:04:35,107 Oh, no. 78 00:04:35,107 --> 00:04:36,707 I know who I'm talking about, right? 79 00:04:36,707 --> 00:04:37,027 Yeah, 80 00:04:37,027 --> 00:04:37,307 Fallon: I do. 81 00:04:37,307 --> 00:04:37,667 I do. 82 00:04:37,797 --> 00:04:39,917 So we entered the space in our early twenties. 83 00:04:39,917 --> 00:04:43,817 So not only were we raised, you know, eighties, eighties babies, nineties 84 00:04:43,817 --> 00:04:46,487 and early two thousands, watching the really skinny models come up. 85 00:04:47,687 --> 00:04:47,867 That was 86 00:04:47,867 --> 00:04:48,737 Abby: secret models too. 87 00:04:49,107 --> 00:04:49,817 Fallon: Victoria's Secret being. 88 00:04:50,337 --> 00:04:50,907 Right. 89 00:04:50,907 --> 00:04:51,027 Mm-hmm. 90 00:04:51,217 --> 00:04:55,647 and that, and, and I remember I had a friend that was that skinny, um, and 91 00:04:55,647 --> 00:04:59,007 feeling, and gosh, it's so funny to go back and look at pictures of myself, but, 92 00:04:59,427 --> 00:05:02,607 but again, buying into the patriarchy, buying into this societal pressure that, 93 00:05:02,607 --> 00:05:06,477 like beauty is of any one thing Yeah. 94 00:05:06,477 --> 00:05:08,877 Of any one thing that, that is Right. 95 00:05:08,877 --> 00:05:12,057 It, it, I, I don't, cause I don't wanna minimize being skinny or, or I don't 96 00:05:12,057 --> 00:05:14,137 wanna make that bad either, but, right. 97 00:05:14,142 --> 00:05:17,377 But long story short, coming into the MySpace world, I remember we were all. 98 00:05:18,137 --> 00:05:20,867 Oh my God, the women are so beautiful. 99 00:05:21,107 --> 00:05:26,537 And it was the first time that we felt everyday women like ourselves. 100 00:05:26,897 --> 00:05:27,167 Right? 101 00:05:27,167 --> 00:05:29,357 Because it, like you said, TVs and movies are one thing, 102 00:05:29,357 --> 00:05:30,557 magazines are another thing. 103 00:05:31,037 --> 00:05:34,667 But then to log onto a space where quote unquote regular people 104 00:05:34,667 --> 00:05:39,527 existed like ourselves and we felt we did not compare at all. 105 00:05:39,532 --> 00:05:40,087 Mm-hmm. 106 00:05:40,487 --> 00:05:43,607 , that really exacerbated a lot of my own. 107 00:05:44,327 --> 00:05:51,827 Body image things or my own desire to be seen as a beautiful, in shape, 108 00:05:51,827 --> 00:05:53,267 whatever that meant at the time. 109 00:05:53,267 --> 00:05:53,447 Mm-hmm. 110 00:05:53,687 --> 00:05:57,597 , you know, woman to, to be of value, to feel like men could. 111 00:05:58,532 --> 00:06:00,962 Like me or women could want to be me. 112 00:06:00,962 --> 00:06:02,702 And it was so unconscious, you know? 113 00:06:02,702 --> 00:06:06,902 Bless my sweetheart, but, but it's only gotten bigger since then. 114 00:06:06,902 --> 00:06:10,082 And I think we've made a lot of strides in social media recognizing that. 115 00:06:10,082 --> 00:06:12,662 But man, that first introduction was, it 116 00:06:12,662 --> 00:06:13,412 Abby: was rough. 117 00:06:14,192 --> 00:06:16,592 I mean, and we have made a lot of strides, but there are 118 00:06:16,592 --> 00:06:19,922 still, I mean now it's the rise. 119 00:06:20,957 --> 00:06:23,987 All of the different kinds of plastic surgery that you can do. 120 00:06:24,047 --> 00:06:24,227 Oh my gosh. 121 00:06:24,227 --> 00:06:25,787 To achieve these different looks. 122 00:06:25,787 --> 00:06:30,947 And from you talking about like the MySpace stuff, like for me it was, 123 00:06:31,337 --> 00:06:35,057 it was growing up and seeing, you know, the Victoria's Secret Angels, 124 00:06:35,057 --> 00:06:37,367 like the show is the fashion show. 125 00:06:37,607 --> 00:06:37,697 Mm-hmm. 126 00:06:37,937 --> 00:06:40,067 and being like, well, I do have that body type. 127 00:06:40,067 --> 00:06:44,117 I'm like tall and thin and I have big boobs and whatever, all of that stuff. 128 00:06:44,447 --> 00:06:48,107 But being like, but I'm still not skinny enough, or my stomach has. 129 00:06:49,337 --> 00:06:50,747 Like any fat on it. 130 00:06:50,747 --> 00:06:53,687 So like I, that makes me not, I'm not good enough. 131 00:06:53,687 --> 00:06:54,767 I'm not like skinny enough. 132 00:06:54,772 --> 00:06:57,107 Like I shouldn't, like, I don't feel comfortable in my body 133 00:06:57,107 --> 00:06:58,367 because I don't look like that. 134 00:06:58,367 --> 00:07:02,297 Like I could look like that if I tried hard enough, you know, quote unquote. 135 00:07:02,447 --> 00:07:02,507 Yeah. 136 00:07:03,617 --> 00:07:08,192 and then all of the things we do in order to, um, try to fit into those 137 00:07:08,192 --> 00:07:13,262 malts that you buy into when like your brain is literally still, um, is 138 00:07:13,262 --> 00:07:18,332 still forming, you know, and all of these beliefs are getting imprinted. 139 00:07:18,332 --> 00:07:22,172 And, and then seeing the people around you who are doing the same things or 140 00:07:22,172 --> 00:07:26,732 seeing, you know, your mom or your aunts or you know, other of your friends doing 141 00:07:26,732 --> 00:07:28,292 all of the same things and buying in. 142 00:07:29,402 --> 00:07:30,992 Like you said, that's all we really knew. 143 00:07:31,712 --> 00:07:37,397 And because as a society and as just human beings, your, your innate 144 00:07:37,742 --> 00:07:41,582 human drive is to want to be part of a group and be part of a community. 145 00:07:41,582 --> 00:07:43,712 So you're like, if this is what helps me be a part of the 146 00:07:43,712 --> 00:07:46,022 community, then I'll do it. 147 00:07:46,262 --> 00:07:51,002 You know, because that brings me belonging and that brings me love by people and. 148 00:07:52,042 --> 00:07:54,767 all of those things come into play in a really harmful way. 149 00:07:55,817 --> 00:07:56,267 Fallon: Yes. 150 00:07:56,267 --> 00:07:57,197 Can be in a harmful way. 151 00:07:57,197 --> 00:07:57,437 Yes. 152 00:07:57,442 --> 00:08:01,067 And I think also this desire to be unique and to stand out simultaneously. 153 00:08:01,337 --> 00:08:01,487 Mm-hmm. 154 00:08:01,967 --> 00:08:06,227 , you know, um, and if I'm this way or I look this way or I have this, 155 00:08:06,527 --> 00:08:08,237 then, then I'm also like, I'm, I'm. 156 00:08:08,872 --> 00:08:11,572 . I'm unique enough that I don't blend in with the crowd so 157 00:08:11,572 --> 00:08:13,222 much that I'm also noticed. 158 00:08:13,312 --> 00:08:13,402 Mm-hmm. 159 00:08:13,642 --> 00:08:15,622 , you know, or, and there's also the flip side of that. 160 00:08:15,622 --> 00:08:18,262 I know that that was more for me, but there's also the flip side of like, 161 00:08:18,292 --> 00:08:20,452 I, many people don't wanna stand out. 162 00:08:20,452 --> 00:08:22,552 Like they're like, let me blend, please. 163 00:08:22,792 --> 00:08:22,882 Mm-hmm. 164 00:08:23,122 --> 00:08:25,642 , the thought of having any sort of individual attention 165 00:08:25,642 --> 00:08:27,052 on them is frightening. 166 00:08:27,057 --> 00:08:35,152 And so all that to like circle back to, I think one of the first things that 167 00:08:35,152 --> 00:08:40,697 really started to shift me in my body image was, I mean, we've talked about 168 00:08:40,697 --> 00:08:47,417 this, but honoring our bodies, but also like look in the mirror and what can you 169 00:08:47,417 --> 00:08:50,717 change in this moment about it, you know? 170 00:08:50,722 --> 00:08:50,897 Mm-hmm. 171 00:08:50,977 --> 00:08:55,967 and what can you, like you, so what, what if you radically just 172 00:08:55,967 --> 00:09:00,017 began to accept the smaller boobs or the bigger boobs or the cellulite? 173 00:09:00,227 --> 00:09:02,597 Like what if you just went against the grain and been like, you know what? 174 00:09:02,597 --> 00:09:06,377 I'm actually just gonna fucking start deciding that I'm gonna 175 00:09:06,377 --> 00:09:07,637 love the part of me that doesn't. 176 00:09:08,477 --> 00:09:10,147 This part of me mm-hmm. 177 00:09:10,227 --> 00:09:11,147 , like what if we started there? 178 00:09:11,377 --> 00:09:11,987 Mm-hmm. 179 00:09:12,067 --> 00:09:15,287 , you know, and honoring, and I remember our, you know, old mentor Viola 180 00:09:15,677 --> 00:09:18,947 talked about how her self-love and her body image began to shift when 181 00:09:18,947 --> 00:09:23,087 she started to think about things at a s cell, cellular, cellular level. 182 00:09:23,087 --> 00:09:23,907 I can never say mm-hmm. 183 00:09:24,437 --> 00:09:29,447 of like how her cells actually, you know, carried, you know, information 184 00:09:29,447 --> 00:09:31,277 and even food and that that mm-hmm. 185 00:09:31,277 --> 00:09:34,157 So we all have a different way of what we can start to shift the way that. 186 00:09:34,952 --> 00:09:36,662 Relate to being in our skin. 187 00:09:36,662 --> 00:09:37,232 Mm-hmm. 188 00:09:37,462 --> 00:09:43,862 . But it's so special to be in this vessel that I feel like if you and I 189 00:09:43,952 --> 00:09:49,682 can begin to shift this narrative on some level, I will be a happy woman. 190 00:09:50,072 --> 00:09:52,862 You know, if it's one person that walks away from this episode feeling 191 00:09:52,862 --> 00:09:58,052 like my, the skin I'm in is so beautiful where it is at now, I will. 192 00:09:59,222 --> 00:09:59,612 Happy 193 00:10:00,652 --> 00:10:04,472 . Abby: So Well, and, and like you're saying, it's like the idea 194 00:10:04,472 --> 00:10:08,942 of whether or not you, like for me, it's coming at it with a. 195 00:10:10,682 --> 00:10:15,332 With a belief of I am, I am like a soul, I'm a spirit who's here to 196 00:10:15,332 --> 00:10:17,912 experience like this life right now. 197 00:10:18,332 --> 00:10:19,712 And I get this body right now. 198 00:10:19,752 --> 00:10:20,352 Mm-hmm. 199 00:10:20,437 --> 00:10:24,632 . And so it's like if I'm, if I'm this soul that has this body that 200 00:10:24,632 --> 00:10:27,752 has a human body, then like, why don't we make the most of it? 201 00:10:27,782 --> 00:10:31,382 Why don't we like, Show it off and play with it and do fun things with 202 00:10:31,382 --> 00:10:35,852 it and like love with it and all of the things instead of like looking in 203 00:10:35,852 --> 00:10:37,562 the mirror and hating it every day. 204 00:10:37,622 --> 00:10:42,302 You know, it's like, like you're saying, it's in the ways in which like 205 00:10:42,302 --> 00:10:46,892 the, the patriarchy, this patriarchal society that we live in, play into it 206 00:10:47,762 --> 00:10:53,132 of, you know, because women have so much, like we have so much to offer 207 00:10:53,222 --> 00:10:56,402 and, but we get so preoccupied with. 208 00:10:57,587 --> 00:11:06,092 what diet we're on or yeah, what size we fit into or like in, in, in all of 209 00:11:06,092 --> 00:11:10,562 the ways that it keeps us from actually reaching the potential that we have. 210 00:11:10,862 --> 00:11:14,702 You know, and that's one of the things that I think is, is so interesting 211 00:11:14,702 --> 00:11:18,632 about this time is because we see women really stepping up and 212 00:11:18,632 --> 00:11:21,782 embracing fully like who they are. 213 00:11:22,292 --> 00:11:24,542 And then that's where there's no space. 214 00:11:26,012 --> 00:11:29,342 Not loving, you know, your body to really be there. 215 00:11:29,372 --> 00:11:31,412 It's like it still will be there, you know? 216 00:11:31,412 --> 00:11:34,352 Cause it's always gonna be, well, hopefully not always, but it's, 217 00:11:34,652 --> 00:11:38,672 it's gonna be a thing that we work on, I think for a long time. 218 00:11:39,122 --> 00:11:39,212 Mm-hmm. 219 00:11:40,232 --> 00:11:45,752 , but I don't remember who posted this, but there was something about like 220 00:11:45,752 --> 00:11:50,162 how the patriarchy wants to keep women, basically keep women small and. 221 00:11:51,017 --> 00:11:53,927 And so that like they can keep running the world so that like 222 00:11:53,927 --> 00:11:55,187 men can keep running the world. 223 00:11:55,217 --> 00:11:58,877 Cuz if you keep women focused on this one thing over here, then they don't have time 224 00:11:58,877 --> 00:12:01,457 to actually realize how powerful they are. 225 00:12:01,967 --> 00:12:06,307 And like for me, that's where it gets me really fired up to be like, hey. 226 00:12:07,337 --> 00:12:09,377 , we don't have to like worry about these things. 227 00:12:09,437 --> 00:12:10,667 You're, you're beautiful. 228 00:12:10,667 --> 00:12:11,657 Your body is healthy. 229 00:12:11,657 --> 00:12:13,157 It can do all of these things. 230 00:12:13,727 --> 00:12:15,647 And what else do you have? 231 00:12:16,037 --> 00:12:19,097 Like what else do you have to offer The world and Yes. 232 00:12:19,217 --> 00:12:21,137 The people in your life, you know? 233 00:12:21,137 --> 00:12:21,537 Yeah. 234 00:12:21,917 --> 00:12:22,217 Well, yeah. 235 00:12:22,217 --> 00:12:23,327 Fallon: And the wounded masculine, right? 236 00:12:23,327 --> 00:12:24,767 Like when we're talking about the patriarchy, it's not men. 237 00:12:24,772 --> 00:12:24,917 Mm-hmm. 238 00:12:25,457 --> 00:12:27,017 And, I mean, I know that you, you right. 239 00:12:27,662 --> 00:12:30,302 Like, you've got an amazing fiance now. 240 00:12:30,572 --> 00:12:30,692 Mm-hmm. 241 00:12:31,172 --> 00:12:33,392 , um, who, who supports and all of that. 242 00:12:33,392 --> 00:12:37,742 But it's the wounded masculine who is so scared of, of the divine feminine 243 00:12:37,892 --> 00:12:40,382 being, coming to rise in her own. 244 00:12:40,532 --> 00:12:41,142 Abby: Mm-hmm. 245 00:12:41,562 --> 00:12:42,452 her own power. 246 00:12:42,692 --> 00:12:42,992 Her own 247 00:12:42,997 --> 00:12:46,622 Fallon: power, her own trust of self, her own, like what 248 00:12:46,622 --> 00:12:47,882 if she actually loved herself? 249 00:12:47,882 --> 00:12:51,182 And the thing is, I actually think underneath a lot of this, like as 250 00:12:51,182 --> 00:12:54,032 we're talking, cause I'm, I'm tuning into different energies, right. 251 00:12:54,037 --> 00:12:54,702 Of like mm-hmm. 252 00:12:54,782 --> 00:12:56,252 of women that I know and old clients. 253 00:12:57,787 --> 00:12:58,267 of. 254 00:12:59,792 --> 00:13:03,362 , it actually feels dangerous to decide that you are going to love 255 00:13:03,362 --> 00:13:05,042 your body and celebrate your body. 256 00:13:05,042 --> 00:13:05,552 Mm-hmm. 257 00:13:05,632 --> 00:13:08,392 because then who are you in that, right? 258 00:13:08,397 --> 00:13:09,392 Then you're not playing small. 259 00:13:09,392 --> 00:13:11,852 And then, yeah, it goes back to like what you said, then what if 260 00:13:11,852 --> 00:13:13,802 I'm not accepted and people think I have a chip on my shoulder? 261 00:13:14,312 --> 00:13:18,182 So there's also the flip side of subconsciously it might be the way 262 00:13:18,212 --> 00:13:21,092 that you are trying to stay relatable. 263 00:13:21,542 --> 00:13:22,022 Yeah, of course. 264 00:13:22,322 --> 00:13:25,682 You know, um, safe and all of these things, but. 265 00:13:27,347 --> 00:13:30,662 . And, and I also agree with you, it's going to be a journey, like as much 266 00:13:30,662 --> 00:13:34,202 work as I've done on my body image and I feel very comfortable in my 267 00:13:34,202 --> 00:13:36,842 skin and my weight still fluctuates. 268 00:13:36,847 --> 00:13:37,102 Mm-hmm. 269 00:13:37,182 --> 00:13:37,542 quite a bit. 270 00:13:37,542 --> 00:13:37,742 Mm-hmm. 271 00:13:37,822 --> 00:13:40,442 , I mean, I fluctuate about seven pounds, give or take, depending 272 00:13:40,442 --> 00:13:42,332 on what's happening, right? 273 00:13:42,662 --> 00:13:42,752 Mm-hmm. 274 00:13:43,087 --> 00:13:46,682 , um, I've come to a place of real, a lot of acceptance and then 275 00:13:46,682 --> 00:13:50,262 even their spaces where I'm still like, oh, I wish I had bigger. 276 00:13:50,807 --> 00:13:51,267 You know. 277 00:13:51,267 --> 00:13:51,268 Mm-hmm. 278 00:13:51,457 --> 00:13:55,957 , I mean, it will probably always kind of be there, but I get to love on 279 00:13:55,957 --> 00:13:57,307 the part of me that wishes for more. 280 00:13:57,397 --> 00:13:57,487 Mm-hmm. 281 00:13:57,727 --> 00:13:59,767 and then love where I'm at cuz can I change it? 282 00:14:00,097 --> 00:14:00,397 Sure. 283 00:14:00,402 --> 00:14:01,747 I could go get plastic surgery. 284 00:14:01,927 --> 00:14:04,297 It's just never felt aligned for me. 285 00:14:04,327 --> 00:14:04,597 Mm-hmm. 286 00:14:04,837 --> 00:14:05,437 personally. 287 00:14:05,977 --> 00:14:09,997 Um, so it is a journey of, of loving where you're at, but 288 00:14:09,997 --> 00:14:15,487 deciding that, like you said, we're actually like this is our one life. 289 00:14:15,487 --> 00:14:16,417 Mm-hmm. 290 00:14:16,977 --> 00:14:19,262 . . This is our one life in this vessel. 291 00:14:19,267 --> 00:14:19,502 Right, right. 292 00:14:19,502 --> 00:14:22,022 And whether you believe this iteration of it, yes. 293 00:14:22,027 --> 00:14:26,882 This iteration, this energetic signature, this is the vessel that we actually chose. 294 00:14:26,942 --> 00:14:27,302 Mm-hmm. 295 00:14:27,872 --> 00:14:31,022 because there was an experience that we wanted to have as 296 00:14:31,022 --> 00:14:32,702 a soul in this human body. 297 00:14:32,912 --> 00:14:36,172 How fucking incredible is that, right? 298 00:14:37,112 --> 00:14:37,622 Yes. 299 00:14:37,622 --> 00:14:39,122 Abby: And so, go ahead. 300 00:14:39,212 --> 00:14:41,732 No, I was just gonna say, and like all of this time that. 301 00:14:42,467 --> 00:14:47,567 We waste caring, caring about these things that are, I mean, and God 302 00:14:47,567 --> 00:14:50,657 bless us, like we're so human, and it's just like such a fucking thing 303 00:14:50,657 --> 00:14:52,157 that everybody, like we all do. 304 00:14:52,457 --> 00:14:52,697 Yes. 305 00:14:52,697 --> 00:14:55,517 You're like, oh, I just, I wanna feel like, whatever. 306 00:14:55,517 --> 00:14:57,467 And, and that's what I mean, that's different. 307 00:14:57,467 --> 00:15:01,457 I wanna feel a certain way versus, I wanna look a certain way, but it reminds me of 308 00:15:01,487 --> 00:15:04,617 like, you know, like in mean girls and she's like, I wanna lose three pounds. 309 00:15:04,962 --> 00:15:05,562 You know? 310 00:15:05,802 --> 00:15:06,402 Yeah, 311 00:15:07,302 --> 00:15:07,542 Fallon: yeah. 312 00:15:07,542 --> 00:15:10,122 But the feeling and the looking are, are related, right? 313 00:15:10,182 --> 00:15:10,422 Yeah. 314 00:15:10,722 --> 00:15:12,342 If we look a certain way, then we're gonna feel a certain 315 00:15:12,342 --> 00:15:13,512 Abby: way and it's not guaranteed. 316 00:15:13,862 --> 00:15:13,982 Right. 317 00:15:14,382 --> 00:15:20,682 and, and like you bring up, you know, being newly a and that's 318 00:15:24,612 --> 00:15:27,192 bringing up that it's like then all of. 319 00:15:28,097 --> 00:15:32,807 You know, all of these dif these weird beliefs in for me come rushing 320 00:15:32,807 --> 00:15:36,287 back in and like the whole phrase of like, oh, shedding for the wedding 321 00:15:36,287 --> 00:15:39,437 and like, needing to get in the best shape of your life or your wedding. 322 00:15:39,437 --> 00:15:42,947 And I'm like, Hmm, do I actually believe this? 323 00:15:43,097 --> 00:15:44,837 I mean, do I feel pretty good? 324 00:15:44,837 --> 00:15:45,677 Like where I'm at now? 325 00:15:45,677 --> 00:15:46,187 Yes. 326 00:15:46,667 --> 00:15:48,317 Do I have a desire? 327 00:15:48,317 --> 00:15:52,487 Is there a desire still within me to feel and look a little bit? 328 00:15:53,327 --> 00:15:54,137 If I'm being honest. 329 00:15:54,137 --> 00:15:54,647 Yes. 330 00:15:54,947 --> 00:15:55,487 Yeah. 331 00:15:55,817 --> 00:16:00,677 And being like, okay, but am I not loving myself now as I am? 332 00:16:00,737 --> 00:16:01,637 No, I'm not. 333 00:16:01,727 --> 00:16:04,997 I mean, yes, I am still, and no, I'm not, not loving myself. 334 00:16:05,087 --> 00:16:05,297 Right. 335 00:16:05,537 --> 00:16:05,837 Yeah. 336 00:16:05,837 --> 00:16:06,137 I gotcha. 337 00:16:06,137 --> 00:16:08,447 But it's interesting. 338 00:16:09,767 --> 00:16:14,867 when like you get confronted with these things and then you're like, oh wait, 339 00:16:14,867 --> 00:16:19,577 and if I hadn't done this work, it's like you could easily see yourself going 340 00:16:19,582 --> 00:16:24,647 into that mind spiral of like, okay, well like what workout plan do I wanna get on? 341 00:16:24,652 --> 00:16:28,967 Or like, maybe I should start like this one diet so I can really feel and 342 00:16:28,967 --> 00:16:31,787 look like my skinniest and my whatever. 343 00:16:31,787 --> 00:16:34,937 Cuz like I am gonna be in all of these photos and I wanna look a photo, 344 00:16:34,997 --> 00:16:36,677 like I want the photos to look good. 345 00:16:37,652 --> 00:16:41,762 and it's like immediately when like these, like life events and now it's 346 00:16:41,762 --> 00:16:46,622 like, it triggers like, okay, no, I don't know, I don't know about these beliefs. 347 00:16:46,622 --> 00:16:53,282 Like let me re re decide like what are the ones that I really 348 00:16:53,282 --> 00:16:54,992 am believing in in this moment? 349 00:16:54,997 --> 00:16:57,242 And it's, you know what, maybe I want to. 350 00:16:58,712 --> 00:17:04,172 Just get back into, into better routines because I mean, the other part of this 351 00:17:04,172 --> 00:17:07,502 too, that I'm sure I'll mention more in these episodes is that we've been 352 00:17:07,502 --> 00:17:11,312 traveling for the last two years, and so it's like just being in a healthy 353 00:17:11,317 --> 00:17:16,112 routine in terms of the kinds of foods that I'm eating and the movement that 354 00:17:16,112 --> 00:17:21,182 I am engaging in, you know, has been a struggle at times because mm-hmm. 355 00:17:21,662 --> 00:17:28,112 you wanna be able to, Be in different places and experience all the foods and, 356 00:17:28,532 --> 00:17:31,322 but, and sometimes like the foods that you normally eat just aren't available 357 00:17:31,412 --> 00:17:33,632 in other countries or other places. 358 00:17:33,842 --> 00:17:40,742 And yeah, so it's more of like, okay, well while I'm here, how do I want to. 359 00:17:41,402 --> 00:17:45,902 Nourish myself in the best way possible versus how do I want 360 00:17:45,902 --> 00:17:51,242 to get as skinny as possible so that I look the best on the day? 361 00:17:51,322 --> 00:17:51,722 Yes. 362 00:17:51,742 --> 00:17:54,082 Nourishment, you know, over everything. 363 00:17:54,087 --> 00:17:54,302 Yes. 364 00:17:54,392 --> 00:17:56,792 Fallon: What does that mean over everything feel like for you? 365 00:17:56,792 --> 00:17:59,732 What does nourishment mean to you as an individual? 366 00:18:00,242 --> 00:18:04,622 Unplug from social media, unplug from everything around you and tap 367 00:18:04,622 --> 00:18:09,062 into your body and yourself and ask what does nourishment mean for me? 368 00:18:09,062 --> 00:18:09,992 And what does that look like? 369 00:18:09,992 --> 00:18:13,442 Because it's not gonna be just, just what you eat, right? 370 00:18:13,502 --> 00:18:15,182 A diet is not something you're on and off. 371 00:18:15,182 --> 00:18:16,592 A diet is, is a way of life. 372 00:18:16,592 --> 00:18:17,162 Mm-hmm. 373 00:18:17,522 --> 00:18:24,602 . Um, but, but something I also, as I'm listening to you speak, it reminds me 374 00:18:24,602 --> 00:18:26,372 it was just only a couple days ago. 375 00:18:27,137 --> 00:18:30,407 and I, and I, I mean, and I've been doing this on and off, is 376 00:18:30,407 --> 00:18:32,147 reminding myself that I am a miracle. 377 00:18:32,177 --> 00:18:33,497 Like I look at my daughter mm-hmm. 378 00:18:33,737 --> 00:18:36,737 , because I will, I will reflect back to you or share with 379 00:18:36,737 --> 00:18:38,447 you when you become a mother. 380 00:18:38,447 --> 00:18:41,747 The same thing happens is, is the quote unquote bounce back. 381 00:18:41,747 --> 00:18:44,327 Like how, especially if you've already been in shape when you 382 00:18:44,327 --> 00:18:45,557 had before you've had a child. 383 00:18:45,557 --> 00:18:48,397 You have a child, you're like, oh, there's this bounce back and or get 384 00:18:48,397 --> 00:18:48,587 Abby: your body. 385 00:18:49,282 --> 00:18:51,552 Yeah, it's, it's like it doesn't lose it. 386 00:18:52,042 --> 00:18:52,372 Fallon: Yeah. 387 00:18:52,372 --> 00:18:53,122 It's still here. 388 00:18:53,122 --> 00:18:56,212 And it just formed life over 10 full moons, so. 389 00:18:56,482 --> 00:18:56,572 Right. 390 00:18:56,722 --> 00:19:00,772 And I pushed it out and I did all the things and I breastfed and I had 391 00:19:00,772 --> 00:19:04,462 the, you know, you get the, the baby blues and like, there's so much that 392 00:19:04,462 --> 00:19:09,802 we're just focused on the superficial of, I have more worth in society 393 00:19:09,802 --> 00:19:12,112 if I can get my pre-baby body back. 394 00:19:12,112 --> 00:19:13,282 And it's like, what does that even mean? 395 00:19:13,282 --> 00:19:15,202 Because you're never gonna be pre-baby again. 396 00:19:15,932 --> 00:19:16,232 Right. 397 00:19:16,292 --> 00:19:17,992 You're always gonna be post-baby. 398 00:19:18,102 --> 00:19:18,712 Mm-hmm. 399 00:19:18,792 --> 00:19:22,562 . And so as much as I like didn't wanna buy into that, I could feel myself it, 400 00:19:22,562 --> 00:19:25,772 because it took me probably a solid year to lose, like last 10 pounds. 401 00:19:26,102 --> 00:19:30,632 And I would dance in and out of permission and shame and permission. 402 00:19:30,632 --> 00:19:30,782 Right. 403 00:19:30,782 --> 00:19:31,592 And, but that's the road. 404 00:19:31,622 --> 00:19:31,712 Mm-hmm. 405 00:19:32,072 --> 00:19:34,712 , that's the road of like, really can I love myself where I'm at? 406 00:19:35,792 --> 00:19:38,732 and then nourish the shame of like, okay, there's that pressure, that 407 00:19:38,732 --> 00:19:41,112 internal pressure that somehow mm-hmm. 408 00:19:41,192 --> 00:19:46,712 , I have it more together if I get my baby, pre-baby body back. 409 00:19:46,712 --> 00:19:46,922 That 410 00:19:46,922 --> 00:19:49,502 Abby: somehow I, and what does it mean about you if 411 00:19:49,502 --> 00:19:50,702 Fallon: you don't and if you don't? 412 00:19:50,707 --> 00:19:52,622 Especially where I've been in, you know, at the time I was a 413 00:19:52,622 --> 00:19:53,792 CrossFit gym owner and mm-hmm. 414 00:19:53,872 --> 00:19:56,192 , so I had to really watch and like, it's the same thing you're doing, 415 00:19:56,192 --> 00:19:59,592 you're watching these stories come up that we've got into mm-hmm. 416 00:19:59,672 --> 00:20:00,552 for so long and. 417 00:20:01,097 --> 00:20:04,877 I don't know that I wanna buy into that anymore, and recognizing that 418 00:20:05,147 --> 00:20:08,147 as the stories come up, it's just the activation of the nervous system. 419 00:20:09,347 --> 00:20:10,097 It's just an act. 420 00:20:10,337 --> 00:20:12,647 The nervous system is just awakened by something. 421 00:20:12,827 --> 00:20:12,917 Yep. 422 00:20:13,307 --> 00:20:15,377 It's not a fact of anything. 423 00:20:15,382 --> 00:20:15,527 Exactly. 424 00:20:15,527 --> 00:20:16,727 It's just feedback. 425 00:20:16,732 --> 00:20:19,167 It's it's facts over, it's just feedback. 426 00:20:19,637 --> 00:20:19,907 Exactly. 427 00:20:19,907 --> 00:20:23,837 And coming back around as I look at my daughter, you know, she's five 428 00:20:23,842 --> 00:20:28,307 and a half now, and every day I'm just like, gosh, you're a miracle. 429 00:20:28,307 --> 00:20:31,427 Like in my, in my being, I'm like, she's such a miracle and not, you 430 00:20:31,427 --> 00:20:34,127 know, and I'm a mom and I yell and I lose my shit and I, you know, I'm very 431 00:20:34,127 --> 00:20:39,752 human mom, but, , I realized through this process is I am also a miracle. 432 00:20:39,752 --> 00:20:40,322 Mm-hmm. 433 00:20:40,712 --> 00:20:43,022 . And then if I can begin to view myself as a miracle. 434 00:20:43,022 --> 00:20:48,122 So I went to the beach the other day by myself and I chose to look at 435 00:20:48,122 --> 00:20:49,682 everybody on the beach as a miracle. 436 00:20:49,922 --> 00:20:50,072 Mm-hmm. 437 00:20:50,342 --> 00:20:51,992 , Abby: because they are, yeah. 438 00:20:52,262 --> 00:20:52,872 I love that. 439 00:20:53,822 --> 00:20:57,632 Fallon: and how can we tap back into that truth that you sitting in front of me 440 00:20:57,632 --> 00:21:00,272 here on Zoom together, you're a miracle. 441 00:21:00,332 --> 00:21:00,942 Mm-hmm. 442 00:21:01,022 --> 00:21:02,072 , I mean like Really? 443 00:21:02,072 --> 00:21:02,222 Yeah. 444 00:21:02,432 --> 00:21:04,022 And I get to see you in that. 445 00:21:04,652 --> 00:21:05,042 Abby: Yeah. 446 00:21:05,252 --> 00:21:09,842 And it's like what we were talked about before we started recording . It's like, 447 00:21:10,262 --> 00:21:13,532 what have you started every day being like looking in the mirror, being like, 448 00:21:13,532 --> 00:21:15,482 damn, girl, you're a fucking miracle. 449 00:21:16,017 --> 00:21:19,712 and like what and how would life be different if that's like the way that 450 00:21:19,712 --> 00:21:24,002 you started it and if you looked at your body being like, and you're a miracle and 451 00:21:24,002 --> 00:21:27,902 your, those legs that carry me to all the places I wanna go is a miracle of the arms 452 00:21:27,902 --> 00:21:30,392 that I have to like lift up my daughter. 453 00:21:30,422 --> 00:21:31,862 Wow, you're a fucking miracle. 454 00:21:32,492 --> 00:21:36,062 I mean, it's like things like that where, because not every. 455 00:21:36,832 --> 00:21:40,642 Has that, and like you see, we all get those stories and you see those like 456 00:21:40,942 --> 00:21:47,152 stories about people who, you know, just don't have, don't have the full health 457 00:21:47,152 --> 00:21:51,202 or they, they lose limbs or just all of the different ways in which like, 458 00:21:53,122 --> 00:21:59,582 we forget that we are a miracle and you need, it's like you need reminders 459 00:21:59,587 --> 00:22:04,012 all the time, but what if that's just how you lived your life knowing. 460 00:22:05,007 --> 00:22:06,227 Fallon: And Yeah. 461 00:22:06,227 --> 00:22:09,197 Or at least, or at least introducing yourself to it in the beginning. 462 00:22:09,197 --> 00:22:09,257 Yeah. 463 00:22:09,287 --> 00:22:13,817 Even if you don't know it, what if I just gently sit down to coffee or tea 464 00:22:13,817 --> 00:22:15,527 with the fact that I might be a miracle? 465 00:22:15,857 --> 00:22:15,917 Yeah. 466 00:22:15,917 --> 00:22:20,867 What if I just gently let that come in and, and you know, something that you and 467 00:22:20,867 --> 00:22:23,657 I, I know together that is so important. 468 00:22:23,657 --> 00:22:25,727 That is the most abundant is our health. 469 00:22:26,447 --> 00:22:27,017 Mm-hmm. 470 00:22:27,767 --> 00:22:31,007 . , you know, and that looks, everybody looks, if I comp 471 00:22:31,007 --> 00:22:32,237 compare, you know, I'm five seven. 472 00:22:32,267 --> 00:22:32,867 Mm-hmm. 473 00:22:33,107 --> 00:22:36,827 , roughly 160 pounds, which really, the numbers are nothing but just 474 00:22:36,832 --> 00:22:39,127 some sort of context to, to mm-hmm. 475 00:22:39,227 --> 00:22:43,667 , to, you know, whatever, how I show up in this gravity of earth. 476 00:22:43,672 --> 00:22:45,017 Right, right. 477 00:22:45,137 --> 00:22:48,977 But if I growing up, I would've probably compared myself to you. 478 00:22:48,982 --> 00:22:49,247 Mm-hmm. 479 00:22:49,327 --> 00:22:50,747 , the tall, angelic blonde. 480 00:22:51,142 --> 00:22:51,437 . Mm-hmm. 481 00:22:51,617 --> 00:22:55,517 with big boobs and, and just, and also, I mean, you're just so radiant and so 482 00:22:55,517 --> 00:22:56,927 beautiful on the inside too, right? 483 00:22:56,927 --> 00:22:59,447 I mean, you are, but it's how. 484 00:23:00,187 --> 00:23:04,442 also like how asinine of my five seven Burnett's self, right. 485 00:23:04,832 --> 00:23:08,822 With an athletic body to compare myself to the long lean Abby. 486 00:23:09,032 --> 00:23:09,122 Right. 487 00:23:09,122 --> 00:23:12,782 It it's just your, that is your expression in the world. 488 00:23:12,782 --> 00:23:13,262 Mm-hmm. 489 00:23:13,412 --> 00:23:15,902 , which is so important in the miracle, and this is my expression, which 490 00:23:15,902 --> 00:23:17,282 is so important in the miracle. 491 00:23:17,402 --> 00:23:18,502 Abby: Right, exactly. 492 00:23:19,232 --> 00:23:21,482 And that, and all of that being. 493 00:23:22,307 --> 00:23:27,167 I would be the same way on the other side because we always want the things 494 00:23:27,167 --> 00:23:31,217 that we, we always covet, like the things that we don't have, instead of 495 00:23:31,217 --> 00:23:35,447 like looking down and being like, damn, this is pretty fucking amazing here. 496 00:23:35,627 --> 00:23:35,927 You know? 497 00:23:36,107 --> 00:23:36,257 Yes. 498 00:23:36,617 --> 00:23:39,407 And cuz I could look at you and be like, oh wow. 499 00:23:39,407 --> 00:23:43,877 Like somebody who actually can have like, Muscles, what would that be like? 500 00:23:45,557 --> 00:23:45,707 . ? Yeah. 501 00:23:45,707 --> 00:23:49,757 Who looks like really strong and, and has like a butt. 502 00:23:49,757 --> 00:23:52,727 I'm like all of the, you know, like Jameson and I will talk about this 503 00:23:52,732 --> 00:23:55,757 all the time, and he'll be like, well, you know, if you like, this is, you 504 00:23:55,757 --> 00:23:57,257 know, classic man thing to say too. 505 00:23:57,407 --> 00:24:01,127 Being like, well, you know, if you there, you could like build it up. 506 00:24:01,127 --> 00:24:03,617 And I'm like, yeah, I could, but like, it'll never. 507 00:24:04,232 --> 00:24:06,842 I could do it in a way that like was healthy and, but 508 00:24:06,842 --> 00:24:08,192 like, is this my body type? 509 00:24:08,192 --> 00:24:09,212 Not really sure. 510 00:24:09,242 --> 00:24:12,092 I could make it, I could make it more muscular, but like, is it ever, 511 00:24:12,122 --> 00:24:16,482 it's not, it's never gonna be what somebody else's is and what is the, 512 00:24:16,862 --> 00:24:18,722 Fallon: the energy you would be doing it from? 513 00:24:18,722 --> 00:24:19,862 Yeah, the energy of you. 514 00:24:19,862 --> 00:24:20,922 So it's one thing like. 515 00:24:21,917 --> 00:24:26,192 . I love to lift weights and work out because there's, there's a, 516 00:24:26,197 --> 00:24:27,782 a moving meditation in it for me. 517 00:24:27,872 --> 00:24:28,082 Mm-hmm. 518 00:24:28,352 --> 00:24:30,872 , there's a connect to my power where I have always been a little 519 00:24:30,877 --> 00:24:33,662 bit more of a pleaser and played small in a lot of different ways. 520 00:24:33,667 --> 00:24:33,792 Mm-hmm. 521 00:24:33,912 --> 00:24:35,342 , there's a connection to my power in it. 522 00:24:36,662 --> 00:24:37,142 Abby: Um, 523 00:24:38,597 --> 00:24:40,967 , Fallon: but I would also be lying if I said that there weren't times in my 524 00:24:40,967 --> 00:24:44,237 life where I did it from, I need to do this because I'm not enough now and 525 00:24:44,237 --> 00:24:45,467 this will help me feel like enough. 526 00:24:45,707 --> 00:24:45,797 Right. 527 00:24:45,797 --> 00:24:47,597 So it's really tapping into the energy in what you're doing. 528 00:24:47,602 --> 00:24:49,757 It's like if you wanted to go and build a butt, a bigger 529 00:24:49,757 --> 00:24:50,807 butt than what you have now. 530 00:24:50,867 --> 00:24:50,987 Yeah. 531 00:24:50,987 --> 00:24:51,347 Then sure. 532 00:24:51,347 --> 00:24:52,997 If that was like something that was like, 533 00:24:53,027 --> 00:24:55,307 Abby: uh, this feels that you felt very important to me. 534 00:24:55,727 --> 00:24:56,177 Yeah. 535 00:24:56,182 --> 00:24:59,387 Because, because like it for a reason that wasn. 536 00:24:59,947 --> 00:25:04,177 You know, I need to do it for somebody else or to meet some, some outside 537 00:25:04,177 --> 00:25:07,117 Fallon: standard, or it's gonna make you happier, you know, whatever. 538 00:25:07,117 --> 00:25:07,447 Right? 539 00:25:07,507 --> 00:25:09,127 Like in, in a false sense. 540 00:25:09,127 --> 00:25:10,297 Happier than, yeah. 541 00:25:10,597 --> 00:25:10,987 Than no. 542 00:25:10,992 --> 00:25:14,797 So it's also tapping into the energy in which, why, why are we choosing right. 543 00:25:15,427 --> 00:25:16,627 , why were we choosing what we're choosing? 544 00:25:16,627 --> 00:25:19,807 And I shared this in my Instagram stories, I think it was yesterday. 545 00:25:19,807 --> 00:25:21,607 Cause I'm on, you know, I'm on this candy to cleanse. 546 00:25:21,907 --> 00:25:22,027 Mm-hmm. 547 00:25:22,267 --> 00:25:24,157 . And a lot of people are asking me about it because I did 548 00:25:24,162 --> 00:25:25,807 talk about having weight loss. 549 00:25:25,807 --> 00:25:30,847 But the more important story in this was my own weight stories coming up. 550 00:25:31,232 --> 00:25:31,292 Yeah. 551 00:25:31,592 --> 00:25:34,922 My own, my, it wasn't about the, the weight loss. 552 00:25:34,922 --> 00:25:37,412 That is a natural side effect when you're consciously cleansing, 553 00:25:37,412 --> 00:25:38,252 when you're doing any cleanse. 554 00:25:38,432 --> 00:25:38,752 Mm-hmm. 555 00:25:38,832 --> 00:25:39,992 . But I'm not doing it for the weight loss. 556 00:25:40,112 --> 00:25:40,552 Right. 557 00:25:40,557 --> 00:25:43,922 But as I was watching the weight and the numbers changed, I noticed these 558 00:25:43,922 --> 00:25:46,652 old deep stories come up around. 559 00:25:47,942 --> 00:25:53,672 How worthy I was to, to feel better in my skin or how worthy I wasn't, 560 00:25:53,672 --> 00:25:56,732 or what the numbers meant, and my relationship to these numbers. 561 00:25:56,732 --> 00:26:01,562 And so it really grounded me into, um, and I share this in my stories, like if 562 00:26:01,562 --> 00:26:05,762 you wanna cleanse, cleanse, but get really clear on what your body actually needs. 563 00:26:05,942 --> 00:26:08,942 Get really clear on the energy in which you, why, why you want it. 564 00:26:09,062 --> 00:26:09,152 Mm-hmm. 565 00:26:09,572 --> 00:26:12,572 , um, if it's just to get skinny, that is to lose weight. 566 00:26:12,602 --> 00:26:14,312 It's not gonna ever be sustainable. 567 00:26:15,377 --> 00:26:15,497 You 568 00:26:15,497 --> 00:26:16,007 Abby: know? 569 00:26:16,037 --> 00:26:16,947 Yes, go ahead. 570 00:26:17,087 --> 00:26:22,217 No, and I was gonna say like in that same vein with all of this, 571 00:26:22,247 --> 00:26:24,827 you know, with all of the wedding stuff happening and feeling. 572 00:26:26,117 --> 00:26:29,927 , like, okay, well if I wanna get into more of like a good movement routine 573 00:26:29,927 --> 00:26:33,407 for myself, you hear yourself, you hear it in your head being like, 574 00:26:33,407 --> 00:26:37,577 well, if I wanted to lose weight, then I would do more hit workouts. 575 00:26:37,607 --> 00:26:37,697 Mm-hmm. 576 00:26:37,942 --> 00:26:41,057 , or I would do more workouts that were like this, but I'm like, okay, what? 577 00:26:41,537 --> 00:26:45,787 What are the ways of moving that feel really good to me, nourishment and. 578 00:26:46,852 --> 00:26:48,497 . Like that's like right now. 579 00:26:48,527 --> 00:26:50,117 That's like Melissa Wood workouts. 580 00:26:50,177 --> 00:26:51,137 Fucking love her. 581 00:26:51,137 --> 00:26:55,337 They're like very like Pilates, yoga, very. 582 00:26:55,367 --> 00:26:59,837 The ones that like make me actually tune into my body, feel the energy 583 00:26:59,842 --> 00:27:02,447 moving through it, make me feel very grounded, very centered. 584 00:27:02,897 --> 00:27:03,747 Do they burn the most calories? 585 00:27:04,337 --> 00:27:05,387 No, they do not. 586 00:27:05,657 --> 00:27:06,497 But do I wake up? 587 00:27:06,497 --> 00:27:10,007 Do I find myself throughout the day noticing that I'm sitting taller? 588 00:27:10,427 --> 00:27:13,997 That like my core feels stronger, that like my whole body is 589 00:27:14,002 --> 00:27:15,607 tired, but it's not like it. 590 00:27:16,007 --> 00:27:19,727 A different kind of tired and you just feel like, oh wow, I'm 591 00:27:19,732 --> 00:27:23,117 using all of my body in this way. 592 00:27:23,117 --> 00:27:29,477 That feels really good, but am I focused on like losing weight as 593 00:27:29,477 --> 00:27:32,897 quickly as possible or doing all of the things that I know how to do because 594 00:27:33,107 --> 00:27:36,197 you know, we all will Being also in the coaching space and in the health 595 00:27:36,197 --> 00:27:41,207 and fitness and yeah, we know all the ways to like lose weight in Yes. 596 00:27:41,207 --> 00:27:42,437 Quick and unhealthy ways. 597 00:27:42,947 --> 00:27:43,097 Yes. 598 00:27:43,187 --> 00:27:43,727 And. 599 00:27:44,612 --> 00:27:47,072 And that's not what I'm, that's not what I'm here for. 600 00:27:47,552 --> 00:27:48,422 I'm here to feel good. 601 00:27:49,112 --> 00:27:49,532 . That's the, 602 00:27:49,682 --> 00:27:51,752 Fallon: and that's the nourishment, that's the self love. 603 00:27:51,752 --> 00:27:51,992 Exactly. 604 00:27:52,082 --> 00:27:56,342 That's the, the acknowledgement of, I'm not gonna buy into, I need to burn as 605 00:27:56,342 --> 00:28:00,242 many calories as possible, or lift as much weight as possible, or, I'm, I'm 606 00:28:00,242 --> 00:28:03,272 actually, this is what I enjoy because of the way that it makes me feel. 607 00:28:03,277 --> 00:28:03,592 Abby: Mm-hmm. 608 00:28:04,282 --> 00:28:07,252 . And the way that it makes my body feel, like all of my muscles 609 00:28:07,252 --> 00:28:09,262 and like, and my, and my mind. 610 00:28:09,472 --> 00:28:09,532 Yeah. 611 00:28:09,532 --> 00:28:11,122 Like being like, Ooh, I feel grounded. 612 00:28:11,122 --> 00:28:14,272 I feel like I've done, like you were saying with lifting weights, 613 00:28:14,277 --> 00:28:16,552 like you're doing a moving me like a moving meditation. 614 00:28:17,472 --> 00:28:18,467 . That's what it feels like. 615 00:28:18,827 --> 00:28:18,947 And 616 00:28:18,947 --> 00:28:22,307 Fallon: it, it, this all brings me back to what we were talking 617 00:28:22,307 --> 00:28:23,477 about before we hit record. 618 00:28:24,347 --> 00:28:27,527 always, um, you're right, is, is like Dr. 619 00:28:27,527 --> 00:28:31,037 Emoto's work and you brought it up in the form of plants, but like Dr. 620 00:28:31,067 --> 00:28:33,747 Emoto, in the way that you speak to water and if you just mm-hmm. 621 00:28:33,827 --> 00:28:34,727 , Google, Dr. 622 00:28:34,727 --> 00:28:38,207 Emoto and his work with speaking and listening to music mm-hmm. 623 00:28:38,632 --> 00:28:40,187 , there's certain frequencies of music. 624 00:28:41,552 --> 00:28:44,912 and the way that we speak to water, you actually see it change 625 00:28:44,912 --> 00:28:46,952 and it looks very disharmonious. 626 00:28:47,012 --> 00:28:47,102 Mm-hmm. 627 00:28:47,342 --> 00:28:48,842 , um, in the negatives, right? 628 00:28:48,842 --> 00:28:52,382 Like the negative talk and the negative emo even a negative emotion sent to it. 629 00:28:52,382 --> 00:28:55,862 And, and it's done with rice as well, like a rice jar with positive talk. 630 00:28:55,862 --> 00:28:58,292 And, and I think you said, um, plants as well, 631 00:28:58,297 --> 00:28:58,622 Abby: right? 632 00:28:58,682 --> 00:28:58,832 Yeah. 633 00:28:58,832 --> 00:28:59,462 With plants. 634 00:28:59,462 --> 00:29:02,372 There was like this experiment where, you know, people. 635 00:29:02,767 --> 00:29:05,977 They talk to their plants and they're like, oh my God, you look so beautiful. 636 00:29:05,977 --> 00:29:06,697 You're blooming. 637 00:29:06,697 --> 00:29:08,197 I can't believe how fast you're blooming. 638 00:29:08,197 --> 00:29:10,507 So many, like so many more flowers this time. 639 00:29:10,837 --> 00:29:14,227 And then there was another plant that you were talking to that you were 640 00:29:14,227 --> 00:29:16,087 like, God, you're such an ugly plant. 641 00:29:16,087 --> 00:29:18,067 You're just all of these horrible things. 642 00:29:18,067 --> 00:29:20,947 And like that plant died even though it got the same amount of sunlight 643 00:29:20,947 --> 00:29:24,427 and the same amount of water, and have the same soil, but the one that you. 644 00:29:25,382 --> 00:29:29,612 Like spoke to you with compliments and just like encouragement and so it's 645 00:29:29,612 --> 00:29:32,822 like, imagine you looking in the mirror every morning being like, you're so 646 00:29:32,822 --> 00:29:35,702 ugly, versus wow, you're a miracle. 647 00:29:36,062 --> 00:29:39,182 And like imagine yourself speaking like you're saying like Biola 648 00:29:39,212 --> 00:29:41,882 to every cell in your body being like, you are such a miracle. 649 00:29:41,882 --> 00:29:42,512 Oh my God. 650 00:29:42,517 --> 00:29:42,752 Like. 651 00:29:43,307 --> 00:29:46,607 Thank you for doing all of the, all of the things that you do to keep me 652 00:29:46,607 --> 00:29:49,487 healthy, to keep me going and all. 653 00:29:49,547 --> 00:29:56,087 It's just such a different energy that you're embodying Yeah. 654 00:29:56,092 --> 00:29:58,667 From, from like a baseline, you know? 655 00:29:58,697 --> 00:29:59,357 Fallon: Yes. 656 00:29:59,447 --> 00:30:00,107 I love that. 657 00:30:00,107 --> 00:30:02,177 Like building a new homeostasis. 658 00:30:02,237 --> 00:30:02,867 Exactly. 659 00:30:03,237 --> 00:30:07,317 , and that's something my mentor talks about a lot, is we actually, our 660 00:30:07,317 --> 00:30:09,807 homeostasis is actually of divine health. 661 00:30:10,527 --> 00:30:10,617 Mm-hmm. 662 00:30:11,037 --> 00:30:14,397 peace and happiness and, and anything outside of that is the dise. 663 00:30:14,777 --> 00:30:15,387 Mm-hmm. 664 00:30:15,467 --> 00:30:18,927 . And to remember that your homeostasis is actually already 665 00:30:18,932 --> 00:30:21,467 there to be your healthiest. 666 00:30:22,442 --> 00:30:24,182 Itself and the rest of it's a journey, right? 667 00:30:24,242 --> 00:30:24,332 Mm-hmm. 668 00:30:24,372 --> 00:30:25,652 Of, of the Lakers and all of that. 669 00:30:25,652 --> 00:30:29,762 But, um, there was something I was gonna say to this that you were 670 00:30:29,762 --> 00:30:32,372 speaking to with, um, oh, the plants. 671 00:30:32,377 --> 00:30:32,912 So I, yeah. 672 00:30:32,912 --> 00:30:35,932 I was raised by a hippie mom who talked to her plants, so mm-hmm. 673 00:30:36,012 --> 00:30:39,062 , that's something I've always done, is if a plant's dying, start to talk to it. 674 00:30:39,062 --> 00:30:40,352 Never really knowing. 675 00:30:41,492 --> 00:30:41,702 Right. 676 00:30:41,702 --> 00:30:44,852 That there were actual studies out there that that proved this, but mm-hmm. 677 00:30:45,332 --> 00:30:45,512 it. 678 00:30:45,512 --> 00:30:49,832 The same goes for, and I'm teach my clients this, and I'm a big proponent 679 00:30:49,832 --> 00:30:52,472 of this for a lot of years, is also I speak to, like we talked about Dr. 680 00:30:52,472 --> 00:30:54,272 Motos work, I speak to my water every morning. 681 00:30:54,512 --> 00:30:54,602 Mm-hmm. 682 00:30:55,202 --> 00:30:56,942 and my food when I remember mm-hmm. 683 00:30:57,027 --> 00:30:59,672 , like sometimes I don't remember to talk to my food, but also like the way that 684 00:30:59,672 --> 00:31:03,482 you speak to living things that you're getting ready to put into your body. 685 00:31:03,722 --> 00:31:03,992 Abby: Exactly. 686 00:31:05,012 --> 00:31:06,122 Iss huge. 687 00:31:06,212 --> 00:31:10,712 Well, and I mean, and this is something that I can't speak of too much, but 688 00:31:10,712 --> 00:31:16,262 like in, you know, like Native American cultures, like when you, when you kill an 689 00:31:16,262 --> 00:31:20,462 animal, then you like, thank it for giving you life and for like sustaining life in 690 00:31:20,462 --> 00:31:22,562 your community, in your tribe and stuff. 691 00:31:22,567 --> 00:31:26,492 And even now, like praying over a meal and like giving thanks, like giving 692 00:31:26,492 --> 00:31:29,462 thanks to not only the living things that you're going to eat, but the 693 00:31:29,462 --> 00:31:31,053 things that sacrifice so that you. 694 00:31:32,072 --> 00:31:33,167 take nourishment from them. 695 00:31:33,197 --> 00:31:39,227 But it all comes back to being mindful and giving gratitude for 696 00:31:39,887 --> 00:31:44,867 all of the things that help you sustain your own life and honor and 697 00:31:44,872 --> 00:31:46,337 honor your body and honor yourself. 698 00:31:46,337 --> 00:31:46,697 Right? 699 00:31:47,087 --> 00:31:47,627 Yes. 700 00:31:47,632 --> 00:31:49,427 And, and I 701 00:31:49,427 --> 00:31:52,097 Fallon: wanna say too, like as you were talk, as we were just talking about, 702 00:31:52,097 --> 00:31:54,827 was listening to you about the, you know, the negative talk and mm-hmm. 703 00:31:54,907 --> 00:31:56,837 that we have, it's so subtle. 704 00:31:57,562 --> 00:31:58,877 , don't you find that it's really subtle. 705 00:31:58,877 --> 00:32:02,867 Like it's not like I don't wake up in the morning and I'm like, Ooh, you ugly. 706 00:32:03,377 --> 00:32:03,557 Right? 707 00:32:03,557 --> 00:32:04,277 You ugly a bitch. 708 00:32:04,597 --> 00:32:05,037 . Yeah. 709 00:32:05,087 --> 00:32:05,807 What are you doing? 710 00:32:06,017 --> 00:32:08,447 What are, you know, I mean, although I'm sure some people 711 00:32:08,447 --> 00:32:10,637 do, so we're laughing, but Yeah. 712 00:32:10,877 --> 00:32:14,177 But our like, I know for me it's always been more of this subtle 713 00:32:15,197 --> 00:32:16,427 like, Ugh, that's cellulite. 714 00:32:16,427 --> 00:32:16,637 Abby: Ugh. 715 00:32:16,637 --> 00:32:19,637 We're like putting a pair of shorts and being like, Ooh, it's 716 00:32:19,887 --> 00:32:21,137 a little tight in the waist. 717 00:32:21,227 --> 00:32:22,607 Maybe I should eat less. 718 00:32:23,567 --> 00:32:23,987 Yes. 719 00:32:23,987 --> 00:32:24,267 You 720 00:32:24,267 --> 00:32:24,347 Fallon: know? 721 00:32:24,347 --> 00:32:24,667 Yes. 722 00:32:24,672 --> 00:32:27,077 Or making that tightness mean 723 00:32:27,077 --> 00:32:29,957 Abby: mean that you, something fucked something up. 724 00:32:30,407 --> 00:32:32,897 You ate too much over the weekend, or you shouldn't have done 725 00:32:32,902 --> 00:32:34,487 something and then it's, or you're 726 00:32:34,492 --> 00:32:35,237 Fallon: just chubby. 727 00:32:35,267 --> 00:32:35,567 Right. 728 00:32:35,572 --> 00:32:37,637 Like that's something I, I would've just gone to be like, I guess I'm 729 00:32:37,637 --> 00:32:39,197 just fluffy, or I'm just chubby today. 730 00:32:39,437 --> 00:32:39,677 Yeah. 731 00:32:39,677 --> 00:32:41,417 And that's uncomfortable and I don't fucking like it. 732 00:32:41,417 --> 00:32:44,987 And I'm gonna decide in this moment because of that feedback that I'm not 733 00:32:44,987 --> 00:32:46,457 gonna enjoy my body as much today. 734 00:32:46,787 --> 00:32:47,057 Yeah. 735 00:32:47,237 --> 00:32:50,927 When I could have easily many times decided, Something 736 00:32:50,927 --> 00:32:53,027 different like, okay, tight 737 00:32:53,417 --> 00:32:55,217 Abby: shorts must be weird today. 738 00:32:57,992 --> 00:32:58,862 Fallon: Down these shorts. 739 00:32:58,922 --> 00:33:00,272 Abby: The short, shrunk overnight. 740 00:33:00,272 --> 00:33:01,202 I don know what happens. 741 00:33:02,762 --> 00:33:03,572 Fallon: Yeah. 742 00:33:03,572 --> 00:33:04,392 But its really 743 00:33:05,162 --> 00:33:05,582 Abby: up today. 744 00:33:15,147 --> 00:33:15,387 Fallon: Yeah. 745 00:33:15,387 --> 00:33:17,487 What if we didn't never for me blame ourselves? 746 00:33:17,517 --> 00:33:17,577 No. 747 00:33:18,087 --> 00:33:18,577 Yeah. 748 00:33:18,577 --> 00:33:19,947 What if we didn't always blame ourselves? 749 00:33:19,947 --> 00:33:25,467 And especially as women we're so cyclical on, you know, a 30 day, 28 day cycle. 750 00:33:25,472 --> 00:33:25,557 Right? 751 00:33:25,857 --> 00:33:29,967 Like, we're not going exactly feel, we're not meant to feel the same in our body. 752 00:33:30,057 --> 00:33:30,147 Mm-hmm. 753 00:33:31,037 --> 00:33:31,847 . At all. 754 00:33:31,937 --> 00:33:35,657 Um, but I wanna move into, because I know, you know, you and I could talk 755 00:33:35,657 --> 00:33:40,847 about this forever, but I wanna move asking you, what do you feel like has 756 00:33:40,852 --> 00:33:44,807 really served you in shifting the way that you view your body or your body image? 757 00:33:44,812 --> 00:33:49,517 And what can we leave with our listeners today that, that maybe can help them? 758 00:33:49,667 --> 00:33:52,067 Um, I mean, I think we've given them a lot of different 759 00:33:52,067 --> 00:33:54,317 perspective for sure, but just on a 760 00:33:54,317 --> 00:33:55,127 Abby: personal. 761 00:33:56,012 --> 00:34:01,202 For me, for me, it's, it's really what we talked about a little bit, 762 00:34:01,202 --> 00:34:09,122 but um, is really finding the ways that you can have fun in your body 763 00:34:09,572 --> 00:34:14,612 and just like, and, and taking note of how it makes you feel because like, 764 00:34:15,122 --> 00:34:20,072 having fun in your body can, it's like you can try something new that you. 765 00:34:20,927 --> 00:34:24,857 Maybe we're afraid to try and then you figure out that you can do something 766 00:34:24,857 --> 00:34:29,327 new and that gives you confidence or gives you a lot of different things. 767 00:34:29,837 --> 00:34:35,627 Um, but yeah, like exploring ways to move that feel really good and that ground 768 00:34:35,627 --> 00:34:38,357 you, that make you feel really centered, like I was talking about with the, the 769 00:34:38,357 --> 00:34:43,997 Melissa Wood workouts, but also like moving in ways that like help you tap 770 00:34:43,997 --> 00:34:49,097 into your sensuality and your sexuality and like, I think that the more we can. 771 00:34:49,892 --> 00:34:55,772 Just be more in tune with our bodies internally, the better everything 772 00:34:55,772 --> 00:35:00,632 comes out externally because you start to build your worth more with like 773 00:35:00,637 --> 00:35:05,222 without all of the external factors, without looking in the mirror and. 774 00:35:05,627 --> 00:35:08,357 Looking at the scale, because like you said, it's like we're 775 00:35:08,357 --> 00:35:09,467 both completely different. 776 00:35:09,467 --> 00:35:12,467 Like your weight, you could have the same weight as somebody else 777 00:35:12,467 --> 00:35:13,607 and look completely different. 778 00:35:13,637 --> 00:35:13,877 Mm-hmm. 779 00:35:13,957 --> 00:35:17,987 . And like that's always, it's like we've, I think we've learned, now we've gotten 780 00:35:17,987 --> 00:35:22,727 to the point that we know that external things will kind of always fuck you up. 781 00:35:23,207 --> 00:35:23,537 Yeah. 782 00:35:23,542 --> 00:35:26,897 So it's like how can we find that worth internally and yeah. 783 00:35:27,197 --> 00:35:29,387 My number one is like finding ways to have fun. 784 00:35:29,537 --> 00:35:31,157 Have fun in your body and with your. 785 00:35:32,477 --> 00:35:32,627 I 786 00:35:32,627 --> 00:35:35,297 Fallon: love that and that, yeah, I relate to that a lot. 787 00:35:35,297 --> 00:35:39,107 The, the having fun and honoring the body's capabilities. 788 00:35:39,257 --> 00:35:39,407 Mm-hmm. 789 00:35:39,857 --> 00:35:43,817 , you know, um, like people playing Yeah. 790 00:35:43,817 --> 00:35:44,957 And the senses. 791 00:35:44,957 --> 00:35:45,407 Mm-hmm. 792 00:35:45,647 --> 00:35:45,737 , right? 793 00:35:45,737 --> 00:35:48,767 Like, I get to see and I get to smell and I get to hear like I have 794 00:35:48,767 --> 00:35:50,567 all of my senses and my intuition. 795 00:35:50,572 --> 00:35:50,937 Mm-hmm. 796 00:35:52,142 --> 00:35:53,207 . . Um, yeah. 797 00:35:53,207 --> 00:35:56,267 And, and the playing, I, you know, and the 798 00:35:56,267 --> 00:35:59,627 Abby: laughter, like going back to like childlike, like how, what 799 00:35:59,627 --> 00:36:01,187 did you do when you were a kid? 800 00:36:01,187 --> 00:36:04,967 Like you ran around, you like threw your arms up, you did full belly laughs. 801 00:36:04,967 --> 00:36:08,987 You weren't trying to like look a certain way or pose a certain way that 802 00:36:08,987 --> 00:36:12,677 you looked, the skinniest, the skinniest or the tallest or like whatever. 803 00:36:12,677 --> 00:36:15,347 You just fucking went full. 804 00:36:16,217 --> 00:36:17,027 Yes, 805 00:36:17,087 --> 00:36:17,597 Fallon: yes. 806 00:36:18,107 --> 00:36:18,557 Lived. 807 00:36:19,067 --> 00:36:22,337 And I love the, the honoring, like their capabilities, but also getting 808 00:36:22,337 --> 00:36:24,767 uncomfortable and learning new things, which develops the confidence. 809 00:36:24,787 --> 00:36:24,947 Mm-hmm. 810 00:36:24,947 --> 00:36:25,147 Right? 811 00:36:25,147 --> 00:36:25,148 Mm-hmm. 812 00:36:25,457 --> 00:36:27,857 And there's a couple things before we close I wanna hit on, cause 813 00:36:27,857 --> 00:36:30,107 there was something you said earlier before we started recording that 814 00:36:30,107 --> 00:36:31,127 I think isn't really important. 815 00:36:31,817 --> 00:36:34,487 Um, but what was I gonna say? 816 00:36:34,487 --> 00:36:35,807 Honoring the capabilities. 817 00:36:36,782 --> 00:36:37,532 Now I just lost it. 818 00:36:37,532 --> 00:36:40,442 So I'm gonna actually ask you what is it, you sent me something 819 00:36:40,447 --> 00:36:43,772 on Instagram a couple weeks ago that I really want you to share 820 00:36:43,772 --> 00:36:45,422 Abby: because it was eyeopening for me. 821 00:36:45,902 --> 00:36:46,262 Yeah. 822 00:36:46,262 --> 00:36:47,042 Alex Light. 823 00:36:47,042 --> 00:36:51,992 So I think her, I think her Instagram is Alex Light underscore l d n London. 824 00:36:52,412 --> 00:36:58,442 Um, and she is like, um, body positive influencer and she posted 825 00:36:58,442 --> 00:37:03,452 this reel that shows how on the same day with different camera lense. 826 00:37:04,802 --> 00:37:07,112 Your face looks completely different. 827 00:37:07,112 --> 00:37:11,162 So it's like her face went like wider to skinnier, to like just this whole range 828 00:37:11,162 --> 00:37:15,662 of like in and out, like from wider to thinner and more chiseled kind of looking. 829 00:37:15,932 --> 00:37:20,132 And it was literally her on the exact same date with a bunch of different lenses. 830 00:37:20,642 --> 00:37:25,982 And it's like, this is, and for me, this was like when I was traveling 831 00:37:26,402 --> 00:37:30,422 and there would be different mirrors in every Airbnb that we were in. 832 00:37:30,422 --> 00:37:32,822 And I could tell that I'm like, oh shit. 833 00:37:32,822 --> 00:37:33,242 Did I? 834 00:37:33,872 --> 00:37:36,542 Like put on a few pounds, like I feel like this, I look a little bit 835 00:37:37,022 --> 00:37:38,882 heavier or wider or like whatever. 836 00:37:38,887 --> 00:37:44,222 And it's just like, this is where these external things can really 837 00:37:44,822 --> 00:37:50,552 like fuck with you and why it's so important to find that, that um, 838 00:37:50,612 --> 00:37:54,092 that worth internally because yeah, like when I saw that thing with the 839 00:37:54,092 --> 00:37:56,642 camera lens, I was like, holy shit, we 840 00:37:56,642 --> 00:37:57,872 Fallon: need to share that reel. 841 00:37:57,902 --> 00:37:58,502 This is crazy. 842 00:37:58,712 --> 00:38:00,602 It is so powerful to watch her. 843 00:38:01,667 --> 00:38:03,677 Change pretty drastically. 844 00:38:03,797 --> 00:38:05,147 Abby: Very like dramatically. 845 00:38:05,167 --> 00:38:05,407 Yeah. 846 00:38:05,412 --> 00:38:05,597 Yeah. 847 00:38:05,597 --> 00:38:06,017 Fallon: Thank you. 848 00:38:06,017 --> 00:38:08,357 Dramatically from, from different camera lenses. 849 00:38:08,647 --> 00:38:08,847 Mm-hmm. 850 00:38:08,927 --> 00:38:13,167 , and we can all relate to, to that like, I, there's, oh, my, and, 851 00:38:13,167 --> 00:38:17,447 and that we instantly feel a, a, a type of way about ourself mm-hmm. 852 00:38:17,687 --> 00:38:22,367 based on what that lens is mirroring back to us in like a selfie or, 853 00:38:22,637 --> 00:38:23,777 or a picture that was been taken. 854 00:38:23,777 --> 00:38:25,037 That has been taken and it's. 855 00:38:26,177 --> 00:38:28,217 Again, coming back to ourself. 856 00:38:28,697 --> 00:38:33,737 Yeah, coming back to ourself, trusting ourselves, trusting and, and loving us 857 00:38:33,737 --> 00:38:39,047 where we're at now and, and remembering that a camera can catch our essence, 858 00:38:39,557 --> 00:38:41,837 but not as much as we can ourselves. 859 00:38:42,227 --> 00:38:43,247 Abby: No, exactly. 860 00:38:43,252 --> 00:38:43,697 Exactly. 861 00:38:43,702 --> 00:38:46,217 Fallon: The lens can never really reflect back to us. 862 00:38:47,232 --> 00:38:48,032 our full truth. 863 00:38:48,032 --> 00:38:48,392 Mm-hmm. 864 00:38:48,472 --> 00:38:50,192 and our, the full miracle of who we are. 865 00:38:50,672 --> 00:38:54,632 And that a lot of times we, what we were talking about, like the 866 00:38:54,632 --> 00:38:59,762 comparison, you know, like growing up I would've been like, oh, I wish 867 00:38:59,762 --> 00:39:01,112 I could look like Abby in this way. 868 00:39:01,112 --> 00:39:04,412 And you would've been like, oh, I wish I could, you know, with Fallon this way. 869 00:39:05,387 --> 00:39:10,547 A lot of times what we feel another person has is also what they 870 00:39:10,547 --> 00:39:11,987 actually love about themselves. 871 00:39:12,137 --> 00:39:12,317 Mm-hmm. 872 00:39:12,557 --> 00:39:17,197 and what we don't love about ourselves, and it's just the mirror of, she actually 873 00:39:17,197 --> 00:39:20,987 is very, she's, she's not insecure about that piece of her, whether it's physical. 874 00:39:21,902 --> 00:39:23,222 or like her groundedness, right? 875 00:39:23,222 --> 00:39:23,852 Like mm-hmm. 876 00:39:24,722 --> 00:39:27,062 you might feel a really grounding power in another woman. 877 00:39:27,062 --> 00:39:27,152 Right. 878 00:39:27,302 --> 00:39:30,422 And you might feel really not like powerless around her. 879 00:39:30,782 --> 00:39:30,962 Right. 880 00:39:30,962 --> 00:39:33,542 And it's because it exists as the reminder it exists within 881 00:39:33,542 --> 00:39:33,602 Abby: us. 882 00:39:33,602 --> 00:39:37,442 Well, and it, and it's the things that I think we covet about other people 883 00:39:37,442 --> 00:39:40,292 are the things that are really wanting to be more expressed within ourselves. 884 00:39:40,652 --> 00:39:40,922 Yeah. 885 00:39:41,012 --> 00:39:43,622 And so, and habited as well in our school. 886 00:39:43,742 --> 00:39:44,022 Exactly. 887 00:39:44,372 --> 00:39:45,122 Exactly. 888 00:39:45,572 --> 00:39:50,342 And I think the more that we can move toward. 889 00:39:52,167 --> 00:39:56,417 Recognizing and tuning in with our internal worth, our 890 00:39:56,417 --> 00:39:57,767 internal like body worth. 891 00:39:58,517 --> 00:40:02,297 And the more we can also recognize it in other women, you know, 892 00:40:02,297 --> 00:40:04,667 recognize all of the parts. 893 00:40:04,697 --> 00:40:09,857 Like we always like to say all of the parts outside of just the physical, um, 894 00:40:09,947 --> 00:40:14,147 all of the ways that which, and like in which like women come to the table and 895 00:40:14,207 --> 00:40:19,247 it's not just their size, it's their, you know, their energy, their presence, their. 896 00:40:19,877 --> 00:40:20,717 Confidence. 897 00:40:20,747 --> 00:40:22,987 It's their, their intelligence. 898 00:40:22,987 --> 00:40:24,827 Their intelligence, their humor. 899 00:40:25,427 --> 00:40:25,637 Yes. 900 00:40:25,787 --> 00:40:26,227 They're witty things. 901 00:40:26,227 --> 00:40:26,747 All the things. 902 00:40:27,107 --> 00:40:27,407 Yeah. 903 00:40:27,407 --> 00:40:29,807 Their goofiness, their imperfection, you know? 904 00:40:29,947 --> 00:40:30,267 Yeah. 905 00:40:30,297 --> 00:40:30,787 Yeah. 906 00:40:30,792 --> 00:40:35,537 All of the things that we can honor within each other, I think is the 907 00:40:35,537 --> 00:40:37,027 most, one of the most important things. 908 00:40:37,397 --> 00:40:42,557 Um, and I did wanna say, just on that note, the, the Ruby Core 909 00:40:42,557 --> 00:40:44,357 poem, that is one of my favorites. 910 00:40:45,317 --> 00:40:49,397 Let me pull that up, which is I want to. 911 00:40:49,802 --> 00:40:52,712 Apologize to all the women that I have called Pretty before. 912 00:40:52,712 --> 00:40:54,332 I've called them intelligent or brave. 913 00:40:54,842 --> 00:40:55,412 I'm sorry. 914 00:40:55,412 --> 00:40:58,952 I made it sound as though something as simple as what you're born with is 915 00:40:58,952 --> 00:41:02,042 the most you have to be proud of when your spirit has crushed mountains. 916 00:41:02,552 --> 00:41:06,932 From now on, I will say things like, you are resilient or You are extraordinary. 917 00:41:07,172 --> 00:41:10,022 Not because I don't think you're pretty, but because you're so much more than that. 918 00:41:12,062 --> 00:41:14,282 Fallon: I think that's the best note to leave this on. 919 00:41:14,642 --> 00:41:15,152 Me too. 920 00:41:15,562 --> 00:41:16,072 Abby: It is. 921 00:41:16,072 --> 00:41:16,632 I love you. 922 00:41:16,862 --> 00:41:17,612 I love you too. 923 00:41:19,502 --> 00:41:20,402 And we love you. 924 00:41:20,672 --> 00:41:21,272 We love you. 925 00:41:21,572 --> 00:41:22,562 Everyone listening. 926 00:41:22,922 --> 00:41:27,302 Yes, we love you, and we'd love to hear anything that this brought up for you. 927 00:41:27,602 --> 00:41:32,342 Any experiences that you've had with, with, with playing with your own body 928 00:41:32,342 --> 00:41:36,332 image or even, or struggling with it or where you're at in your own journey. 929 00:41:36,362 --> 00:41:37,322 We'd love to hear you. 930 00:41:37,322 --> 00:41:38,582 We'd love to support you. 931 00:41:39,017 --> 00:41:40,817 Absolutely would love to support you 932 00:41:40,877 --> 00:41:41,357 Fallon: because 933 00:41:41,537 --> 00:41:43,787 Abby: we know the road all too well and 934 00:41:43,847 --> 00:41:44,027 Fallon: thank you. 935 00:41:44,207 --> 00:41:46,517 You're advocates of leaving none of us behind. 936 00:41:46,607 --> 00:41:47,267 Abby: Exactly. 937 00:41:47,267 --> 00:41:48,437 We love all parts of you. 938 00:41:48,737 --> 00:41:49,337 Yes. 939 00:41:50,087 --> 00:41:50,687 Amazing. 940 00:41:51,467 --> 00:41:51,947 All right. 941 00:41:52,397 --> 00:41:53,087 Beautiful. 942 00:41:53,507 --> 00:41:53,807 Yay. 943 00:41:53,807 --> 00:41:54,977 See you guys next time. 944 00:41:55,427 --> 00:41:55,967 Fallon: Bye. 945 00:41:56,237 --> 00:41:56,687 Bye.