This was a fascinating chat with Paco de la India, who is travelling to 40 countries in 400 days, using nothing but bitcoin.
I caught up with him while he was in Zambia, the 15th country on his journey. I was eager to speak with Paco so I can understand the practicality of using bitcoin in day-to-day life.
Founder Views is a podcast for SaaS builders who want real conversations, not recycled playbooks.
Hosted by Kosta Panagoulias, a 2x SaaS founder, the show features in-the-trenches conversations with SaaS CEOs, operators, and experts. Each episode digs into the decisions, strategies, wins, and struggles that shape real companies - practical insights from people actively building, not theorizing.
While the core focus is SaaS growth, leadership, and execution, the podcast also leaves room for broader discussions that help founders think better - whether that’s economics, technology, markets, or other big-picture business topics.
If you want raw, easy-to-follow conversations with people who've actually built something, you’ll feel right at home.