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hi and welcome to the Raising Men Podcast

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and you can't be a successful father and a victim

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that's right

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I'm not sure that you could be a successful person

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and a victim whether you

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whether you meant to do it that way or not

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I think it's tremendously powerful

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I think you're giving me way too much credit Shawn

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the power to make your way in the world

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now that you're part of the community

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does that ring true yeah absolutely

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like I said there's many ways to initiate

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it can happen consciously or unconsciously

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what does being a mindful parent mean to you

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well it's

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I think a lot of patience

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absolutely it's helped them recognize the impact it has

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because that can have a more profound shift

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on the way they show up yeah

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and going back to your your yes

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and theme we actually

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I think we want to do both things exactly

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