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Travis Bader: Happy New Year.

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2024 has come to an end.

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Here comes 2025.

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I got to tell you this
last year was amazing.

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The Silvercore podcast had us traveling to
Iceland, Finland, to Estonia, to Norway,

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to Sweden, Idaho, Nova Scotia, Toronto,
Texas, throughout British Columbia.

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And, you know, I'm sure
there's other places as well.

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And I'm just slipping
my mind at the moment.

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And none of this would
be possible without you.

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And I want to take a moment to
thank you very much for everyone who

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comments, who subscribes, who tells
their friends about the podcast, who

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interacts and engages and helps us grow.

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I am so stoked for 2025 and all
of the high caliber, podcast.

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For the exclusive silver core club member
events and discounts deals giveaways new

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brand partners and a heck of a lot more.

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My wife and I wrapped up the
silver core podcast last year by

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doing a hot wing eating challenge.

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This was of the theme of hot ones
where you have progressively hotter hot

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sauces as you work your way through.

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And we answered questions
from the audience.

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I got to tell you, it got a
little sketchy near the end.

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We finished it off with some bear
spray and they're definitely not

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thinking about flavor when they make
bear spray and they're concentrating

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all of their effort to heat.

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That was something that if you
haven't seen yet, I'd highly

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recommend you check it out.

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This year, I wanted to bring you
with me into the hunting blind.

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I'm in Texas with my friend, Trevor Gibbs.

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He owns a company man bar.

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They make amazing meat sticks.

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Check those out.

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If you haven't yet, and I wanted to give
you the opportunity to see what it's like

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as we're sitting in a blind waiting for
some game to show up, maybe something

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happens, maybe it doesn't, you're
going to have to listen to find out.

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Now, without further ado,
let's get on with this episode.

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We're doing an in the blind chat.

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So I got up at zero dark 30 this morning,
which with the time change is about

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zero 300, my time, zero 500 Texas time.

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My friend Trevor here said, have
you ever hunted hogs before?

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I said, no, he says, come
on down to Texas and do it.

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So here we are, Trevor.

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Here we are.

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Hey

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Trevor Gibbs: man.

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Good to see you.

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Thanks for coming down.

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It's good to see you again.

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Travis Bader: So we're into the afternoon
right now on day one of our hunt.

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Trevor Gibbs: Yeah.

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Travis Bader: Already
successful this morning.

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Trevor Gibbs: So that's good.

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It wasn't a pig, but we got a doe down
this morning and processed her and got

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her on ice and she's sitting in the
truck and now we're, now we're back at

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it again, hoping some pigs come out.

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So you want to

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Travis Bader: paint the
landscape here for us?

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Where are

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Trevor Gibbs: we right now?

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Yeah.

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So we are, I won't dox the location,
but we are Southeast of Austin.

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Um, um, on a lease that I'm on.

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It's about,

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we've got about 1500
acres that we can hunt on.

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Um, and that is, we're just doing some
good old Texas Hill Country hunting.

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Um, we're in a blind.

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There's a feeder that we're looking
out over and there's a kind of

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a big pond to the left of it.

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It looks perfect for a bunch of pigs to
be in, even though they're not right now.

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And, uh, you know, these feeders throw
corn, uh, usually, First thing in

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the morning and, you know, towards,
towards sunset in the evening, we

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were successful on our hunt this
morning, actually walking to a feeder.

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So we, we didn't hunt over a feeder.

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We just saw, saw a doe to our
right as we were walking and we're

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able to make a good shot on it.

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Um, but I figured, If you're going to
come all the way down here, we got to

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have you do some good old blindsitting.

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Um, sitting in a blind over a feeder.

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So that's

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Travis Bader: something we don't
really do in British Columbia.

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And you know, a friend of
mine, he's the head of.

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Hunter education and firearms training
for the Bavarian region in Germany.

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And they've got a very different
way of hunting over there than we do

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here, or from what I've seen so far
in, in Texas, but they use feeders.

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Okay.

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That's a big thing.

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And they'll use a game cams, uh,
cell operated, which we're not

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allowed to do in British Columbia.

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Okay.

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You are, which was pretty crazy when
you pull that up and you see all

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the different cell cameras and all
the different, uh, uh, Uh, photos

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of, of animals that it's caught.

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And that's what, real time, right?

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Trevor Gibbs: It's the, not exactly.

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So this one's, I think, set up to send
I think every four hours, I want to

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say it sends all the pictures, kind
of a download of the previous four

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hours, but there's different settings.

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You can have them upload, um, immediately
every four hours, six hours, once a day,

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it's there, there's different options.

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Okay.

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So we're not, we're not necessarily like
checking the feeders in real time to

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see where animals are in that moment.

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It's more of.

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More for pattern recognition, like
last night I, I pulled it up and just

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looked at the, like the last week's
worth of morning and evening just to

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see where, what, uh, what stands they
were or what feeders they were hitting

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and what's going to them and all that.

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So,

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Travis Bader: so my buddy in Germany
there, he sends me over their

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hunter education books, and it's
not a book, it's multiple books.

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Of course, they're all in German.

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So I have to use Google translate on
my phone to try and figure it out and

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read my way through it, but they're
responsible for the animals all year long.

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So not just hunting season, like
if they put feeders out in the

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hunting season, they have to make
sure they're out there maintaining

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and feeding them in the off season.

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They're responsible for the
numbers, they're responsible for.

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Damage that they start to do to,
uh, crops, farmers and ranchers.

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And, uh, so they have to make sure
they keep the numbers at a right level.

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They have to know about dog
training and dog handling.

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Uh, there's a lot that goes to it.

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So when I look at this whole feeder thing,
um, This is brand new to me and I can

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see, I can see a lot of benefits to it.

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Sure.

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Uh, I can see where it's different
from how I'm used to hunting.

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Like, uh, the most I've ever
seen in British Columbia in

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certain areas is, uh, salt licks.

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Some people will put out like pumpkins
and stuff like this, and that's

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perfectly legal, except for some
areas that get closer to the Alberta

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US border, and they're concerned
about chronic wasting disease.

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And so they've got different, uh, uh,
rules in the, those areas, but these

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things twice a day, the sort of clanging
off kind of like a ding, a dinner bell

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and sort of throwing out corn and, um,
It's all the wildlife from, from miles

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around just to come by and check it out.

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Trevor Gibbs: Well, in theory, yeah.

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I mean, typically it, and it varies on
the, it varies on the ranch side size.

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Um, you know, like on this,
there's quite a few feeders on,

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on, on this lease that we're on.

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Some of the, some of the ranches
out in like West Texas may have.

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One feeder every hundred acres or
every thousand acres, um, depending

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on how big the ranches, um, but
yeah, it is, you know, they do

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make a noise, they do throw corn.

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It is in a sense, uh, getting the
wildlife used to hitting these areas

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and I think different is a good word.

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Some people that this is
very, very common down here.

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I, I imagine some people in the, you
know, Western U S or, or certainly up

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where you're at, you know, they may

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turn their nose up at it or question it.

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And that's, I get it.

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Um, you know, I, I think you work
with what you have and here in

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Texas, there's a ton of private land.

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It's, I forget the number, but
it's something crazy, you know, in

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the 90 percentile is private land.

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Wow.

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Um, Texas and Texas is a big place.

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You flop that around the other way
in Canada, 90 percent is crown land.

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Exactly.

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We were talking earlier, you know,
it's kind of a 12 hour drive east to

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west and north to south, just in Texas.

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So, um, a lot of land and a lot
of big ranches down here, uh,

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you know, like in the several
hundred thousand acres type size.

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Um, so.

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You know, it's, there is a little
difference because of that.

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You have the place we're on, it just has
your standard kind of barbed wire fencing.

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It's a cattle ranch.

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Uh, there are places that
are high game fences.

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Yeah.

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These,

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Travis Bader: these

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Trevor Gibbs: fences aren't
keeping any, these are not keeping

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anything other than the cattle.

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Correct.

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Travis Bader: Um, so
hogs will go under it.

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The deer will jump over it.

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Yeah.

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Trevor Gibbs: So it just kind of
depends on, on your environment.

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And so with the pigs, especially.

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You know, last, last numbers, I saw that
there were 6 million pigs estimated in

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the U S with two and a half to three
of those just in Texas, two and a half

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to 3 million of those just in Texas.

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That's crazy.

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Travis Bader: I was looking at that
and was the Spaniards, I think that

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were the first to bring the pigs over.

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Then the Europeans brought some.

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True feral hogs over and it was
just sort of a, you know, it's

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nice to have this live food.

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We bring it on over, let some of them
go and, and they just took over over

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here and it's the amount of damage
that these pigs do is in the billions.

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Trevor Gibbs: It is.

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Yeah.

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Especially, you know, especially
in, uh, in Texas where there's a

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lot of agriculture and a lot of
ranching and farming and all of that.

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Absolutely.

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I mean, it is in the billions
of dollars worth of damage.

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And, you know, we were talking about just
out of hand, the numbers get how quickly,

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I mean, it's an exponential thing where,
you know, that these, these pigs can

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start having babies around seven months.

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They can have up to, uh, you know,
four, four pregnancies a year.

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And they're, they're having anywhere
from four to 15 little piglets each time.

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So that's crazy that the numbers get big.

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So if you see, you know, out here, I've
had sounders come in when a group of

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pigs, uh, you know, eight, 10, 12 deep
with You know, most of those being sows.

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So if you just think of those numbers,
even on the low end, if you've got eight

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sows that are having four, I don't know
what's the word, not letters, but sure.

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You know, but, but having four
pregnancies, four batches of

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four piglets a year, you know,
that, that number gets big.

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And so I told you, the number I had
read is that just to keep the numbers

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in check, They're saying you'd have to
take out 70 percent of the population

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every year just to keep them in check,
just to keep it in check and bringing it

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Travis Bader: down.

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Trevor Gibbs: Correct.

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And that is 100 percent not happening.

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But even out here you get, you know, you,
it's a, it's a, there is no one thing.

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I mean, us, us taking a pig at a time
isn't really going to do anything.

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And so, um, Probably a month and a half
ago, the landowner here had a guy come out

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and he trapped, I think it was 45 hogs.

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Wow.

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You know, are they doing those
big cages that fall down?

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Mm-hmm . They put up,
feet out and then they,

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Travis Bader: okay.

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Yeah.

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I've seen those.

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Trevor Gibbs: There's different
ones in different sizes, but there's

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some that are smaller that hold,
you know, maybe two or three.

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And there's some that hold
20 and some that hold 60.

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Um.

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So it's kind of, uh, use everything you
got to, to keep the numbers in check.

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And

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Travis Bader: they don't have any
natural predators here, do they?

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Trevor Gibbs: I mean, no wolves,
you got coyotes, coyotes,

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they, I mean, yeah, not really.

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And I mean, at that
size, it's that volume.

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And it's just, uh, they just keep coming.

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Travis Bader: What do they taste like?

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Trevor Gibbs: It depends.

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So it depends on the environment.

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You know, you can have a

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Big, stinky, smelly, gamey, not that
great tasting animal It could be a boar

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most stereotypes is that it'd be a boar,
but at the same time, I mean, at this

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stand, I told you, we killed my buddy
Harry and I kill he's six, four, two 30.

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And we killed a, a hairy sized hog.

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Travis Bader: Sent me that photo.

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Yeah.

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Trevor Gibbs: And it tasted fine.

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Travis Bader: Walk me through that one.

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Trevor Gibbs: He

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Travis Bader: said, you
just came up and it was,

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Trevor Gibbs: yeah.

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So we've got back behind
me is the trail walking up.

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to this area and then facing me.

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So if you're coming down the trail
to the right is, is the feeder.

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And so we came up and looked at the
feeder and there was nothing there.

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And, uh, and we were about to
turn around cause it was the last

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feeder we were checking that day.

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And then as we were about to
turn around, we heard something

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big coming out of the water.

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And so there's, From my view, well,
uh, maybe we can turn one of these

00:14:05.095 --> 00:14:09.595
cameras around and show people, but to
the left of that as a pond and there

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was a huge pig, uh, in that pond.

00:14:12.345 --> 00:14:15.814
And so he just didn't see him
at first or submerged or what?

00:14:15.845 --> 00:14:18.155
We just didn't see him because
we were looking over to the right

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and he was over here to the left.

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And, and uh, we heard him get out of the
water and so we looked over and kind of

00:14:26.109 --> 00:14:30.449
had that oh shit there is a pig here and
uh, had to make a pretty quick play on

00:14:30.449 --> 00:14:35.929
it because he was walking back into the
woods and we were able, able to get a good

00:14:35.930 --> 00:14:38.259
shot on him and process him and all that.

00:14:38.270 --> 00:14:39.170
And he tastes fine.

00:14:39.499 --> 00:14:45.739
Um, they can, you know, out here
there's a bunch of acorns, like a pecan.

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If you can find a pig that's on, uh,
in a place with a bunch of pecans,

00:14:50.834 --> 00:14:52.545
those are really, really good.

00:14:53.329 --> 00:14:57.959
You know, uh, a fat, fatty sows have
a really good, typically have a really

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good flavor and, and taste to them.

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And

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Travis Bader: I guess
it's like hunting bear.

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People are like, Oh, I
hate the taste of bear.

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And I'm like, well, were you
hunting outside the dumpster?

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I mean, are they eating a lot of fish?

00:15:10.760 --> 00:15:13.569
I get that it's like get
a blueberry bear and like,

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Trevor Gibbs: yeah, it's

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Travis Bader: amazing.

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Trevor Gibbs: It's the same.

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I mean, all of that is another one.

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That's a big, a lot of people.

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I know.

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Say don't touch them, you know, kill them.

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Like it's they're kind of like pigs.

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It says there's a bunch of them they're
kind of running off the The the big the

00:15:30.984 --> 00:15:35.254
bighorn sheep and stuff, especially out
in West Texas, but you'll hear people

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It's like they stink don't touch them.

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Just kill them and you know, take take
the skull get a euro melt, but You know,

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I shot one in Blanco And it was fantastic.

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Uh, you know, you, it's a big sheep, a big
Barbary sheep, so, you know, you stew it.

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with enough spices and all that.

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And it's phenomenal.

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It's amazing what a

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Travis Bader: crock pot can
do, or a pressure cooker.

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For sure.

00:16:01.525 --> 00:16:04.305
Trevor Gibbs: So, you know, it
just depends on environment.

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You know, here, there's pretty, pretty
decent vegetation on the ground.

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A bunch of acorns.

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It's been a super mild winter.

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Um, so you can have something.

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You can have a gigantic bore that
is the most foul rank thing you've

00:16:20.585 --> 00:16:26.145
ever smelled and tasted before and
you can have The exact same size one.

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That's the best tasting no smell
best tasting thing you've ever had

00:16:30.275 --> 00:16:35.215
Travis Bader: So right now you've
lent me a wrong handed Uh tika t3x.

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Yeah, uh chambered in 270 Yes.

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And, uh, here I had visions of, uh, Texas
hunting, hunting hogs from helicopters

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and ARs, thermal and night vision.

00:16:51.044 --> 00:16:52.224
Well, we can, we can

00:16:52.254 --> 00:16:52.474
Trevor Gibbs: do that.

00:16:53.034 --> 00:16:55.685
We can not the, not the helicopter.

00:16:55.979 --> 00:16:59.800
Chopper hunting, but the uh,
yeah, there's another place.

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Travis Bader: Maybe just a nice
chair in the back of the truck legal

00:17:02.920 --> 00:17:07.829
Trevor Gibbs: exactly, but now that
there's a another place I have east of

00:17:07.829 --> 00:17:13.799
Austin that We've got a AR out there
with thermals on it and that's kind of

00:17:13.800 --> 00:17:22.375
our our night spot Gotcha, and that's I
mean, I've seen 60, 70 pigs through the

00:17:22.375 --> 00:17:26.585
thermal at one time out there, uh, they
were on their neighbor's ranch and, you

00:17:26.585 --> 00:17:31.074
know, several, a couple of hundred yards
away and it was the neighbor's ranch.

00:17:31.084 --> 00:17:32.165
So we couldn't get on it.

00:17:32.345 --> 00:17:36.004
It couldn't, couldn't go after him
anyways, but I mean, they almost

00:17:36.005 --> 00:17:38.735
whited out the whole, the whole scope.

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There were so many of them.

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It's

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Travis Bader: interesting being
in a Canadian coming down here.

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And you mentioned, uh, forgot my pistol.

00:17:46.945 --> 00:17:47.355
Yeah.

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And of course we can't do that.

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And I talked with others who are Americans
are bow hunting bear and, uh, He said, are

00:17:56.460 --> 00:17:58.560
you kidding me or bullhunting anything?

00:17:58.580 --> 00:17:59.460
Are you kidding me?

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You're all bullhunting and you're not
allowed to have a pistol with you?

00:18:02.340 --> 00:18:03.040
Not in Canada.

00:18:03.550 --> 00:18:04.010
Yeah.

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Here's a nice precaution.

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I guess these hogs can,
they can do some damage.

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I watch a movie Snatch.

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I see what they do.

00:18:10.970 --> 00:18:14.170
And Deadwood, what they do with
all the old bodies from that one.

00:18:14.289 --> 00:18:14.589
Trevor Gibbs: Yeah.

00:18:14.609 --> 00:18:19.480
I like, you know, whenever,
um, If I'm bow hunting, I like

00:18:19.490 --> 00:18:21.500
to have it on me just in case.

00:18:21.600 --> 00:18:26.540
And then if I'm even, you know, or,
or rifle hunt today, but even, even

00:18:26.540 --> 00:18:30.579
when I'm taking people hunting, like
you've obviously got some experience and

00:18:30.580 --> 00:18:35.020
knowledge and all that, but I take people
out that it may be their first time.

00:18:35.880 --> 00:18:39.890
And so I like, And I give them
the rifle because I want them to

00:18:39.890 --> 00:18:43.710
handle it and I want them to go
through the process of chambering,

00:18:43.720 --> 00:18:46.140
rechambering, safety on, safety off.

00:18:46.500 --> 00:18:50.789
I want them to get the feel of that
while I'm there to watch them, but I

00:18:50.790 --> 00:18:53.089
also just like having something on me.

00:18:53.349 --> 00:18:55.200
Uh, you know, just in case.

00:18:55.210 --> 00:18:59.280
I've never had to use it, hope
that I never will have to, um,

00:18:59.300 --> 00:19:01.520
in a, in that kind of scenario.

00:19:02.140 --> 00:19:02.530
Bye.

00:19:02.980 --> 00:19:05.210
You know, it just makes me
feel a little more comfortable.

00:19:06.110 --> 00:19:07.310
Um, so

00:19:07.730 --> 00:19:10.800
Travis Bader: what did the shopkeeper tell
you when you picked up this Tika here?

00:19:11.815 --> 00:19:12.415
Trevor Gibbs: Oh, I loved it.

00:19:12.415 --> 00:19:15.745
He said, he goes, I could tell you
something more expensive, but I don't

00:19:15.875 --> 00:19:17.585
have anything that shoots a straight.

00:19:18.205 --> 00:19:18.645
I love it.

00:19:18.795 --> 00:19:21.624
And so he told me that and
I was like, well, all right.

00:19:21.625 --> 00:19:23.004
I'm, I can't argue with that.

00:19:23.194 --> 00:19:23.424
Yeah.

00:19:23.635 --> 00:19:23.825
And it

00:19:23.825 --> 00:19:25.184
Travis Bader: works and it works well.

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I was at their factory a few weeks ago
in Finland and actually that was the

00:19:30.855 --> 00:19:34.515
first time I think it's the first time
I've eaten grizzly bear or brown bear.

00:19:35.445 --> 00:19:36.615
They call it, they call it.

00:19:36.865 --> 00:19:40.065
Gray bear, but I Googled it up
and it's just, it's a brown bear,

00:19:40.065 --> 00:19:42.065
which is a species of grizzly.

00:19:42.665 --> 00:19:43.325
It was amazing.

00:19:43.435 --> 00:19:44.255
It was so good.

00:19:44.415 --> 00:19:44.765
Yeah.

00:19:44.775 --> 00:19:45.195
Interesting.

00:19:45.354 --> 00:19:45.544
Yeah.

00:19:45.545 --> 00:19:47.365
They have a different, uh, rule.

00:19:47.705 --> 00:19:50.005
I guess different rules there when
it comes to serving game meat.

00:19:50.005 --> 00:19:53.695
Of course, market hunting is one of
these things in North America that

00:19:53.704 --> 00:19:55.154
everyone wants to shy away from.

00:19:55.830 --> 00:19:59.530
And for good reason, because
it was abused, it went too far.

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And so I know in Canada, I think one
of her provinces was talking to a

00:20:04.309 --> 00:20:09.439
renowned chef in, uh, in Canada, Michael
Hunter, and he's got a few books out.

00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:10.609
He's been on meat eater.

00:20:11.009 --> 00:20:11.939
Actually, I think he's got one book.

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His second book's about to come out.

00:20:13.190 --> 00:20:14.590
I don't know if I was allowed to say that.

00:20:14.890 --> 00:20:15.990
Oh, well, sorry, Michael.

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Um, and, uh, and, uh, and, uh, And he was
telling me about the different rules for,

00:20:22.625 --> 00:20:25.015
uh, being able to actually sell game meat.

00:20:25.035 --> 00:20:27.384
Most of the game meat that people
think that they're eating is

00:20:27.385 --> 00:20:29.355
actually just farmed venison.

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Is that what it's like here too?

00:20:30.775 --> 00:20:34.914
Trevor Gibbs: Yeah, you can't,
uh, I kind of learned all this

00:20:34.945 --> 00:20:36.615
with, with man bar as well.

00:20:36.645 --> 00:20:43.875
Um, my, my stick company, but
you can't sell, it has to be

00:20:43.875 --> 00:20:45.935
processed at the USDA facility.

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And so.

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Um, all the elk, all the
venison, all of that.

00:20:53.010 --> 00:20:53.260
Yeah.

00:20:53.300 --> 00:20:58.489
Typically it's coming from like your New
Zealand, Australia, uh, those places,

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because technically the government owns
those, owns the whitetail like wild pigs.

00:21:06.770 --> 00:21:11.480
You can, you can sell, but they've got
to be processed at the U S like I can't.

00:21:12.465 --> 00:21:17.605
Like, if a pig comes out now and I
shoot it and kill it, we can't sell it.

00:21:18.325 --> 00:21:23.715
But, if we're able to trap it
and then take it to a facility

00:21:23.725 --> 00:21:25.035
and they do it all there.

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And then that could be sold.

00:21:28.170 --> 00:21:28.640
Okay.

00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:30.290
But that, that's just for wild pigs.

00:21:30.300 --> 00:21:31.030
That's not.

00:21:31.210 --> 00:21:31.530
So if you've

00:21:31.580 --> 00:21:34.200
Travis Bader: got a buddy who's trapped
at like 40 a year, and he talked to

00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:36.899
a couple of other farmers who were
trapping these things, do you think

00:21:36.899 --> 00:21:40.570
a limited edition wild hog man bar?

00:21:40.950 --> 00:21:43.499
Trevor Gibbs: I, I, it is on my wishlist.

00:21:43.799 --> 00:21:49.360
Um, I am, and I'm hoping it's not, I'm
hoping it's not even a limited edition

00:21:49.380 --> 00:21:51.260
thing that, that, that is one of the.

00:21:52.335 --> 00:21:54.405
meat combinations that I want to do.

00:21:54.405 --> 00:22:03.214
And, um, may, you may have to supplement
it with a little bit of like lard, you

00:22:03.214 --> 00:22:10.035
know, just kind of your, maybe some
regenerative pig fat, um, or pork lard.

00:22:10.035 --> 00:22:10.395
And

00:22:10.445 --> 00:22:12.225
Travis Bader: are these
wild hogs, not that fat or

00:22:12.285 --> 00:22:12.995
Trevor Gibbs: it depends.

00:22:13.075 --> 00:22:13.375
Yeah.

00:22:13.645 --> 00:22:16.815
Time of year, time of year,
vegetation, all of that.

00:22:16.815 --> 00:22:17.515
It varies.

00:22:17.525 --> 00:22:24.250
So, um, But yeah, that, that is absolutely
on my wishlist and I've already got

00:22:24.280 --> 00:22:28.010
the, uh, I want to do, uh, if we get
something today, I'll make it for you,

00:22:28.040 --> 00:22:36.230
but it's, uh, honey mustard, rosemary,
uh, uh, sauce that I make with it, like

00:22:36.230 --> 00:22:41.830
a, like a marinade based sauce, uh,
combo that I do, and it's really good.

00:22:41.830 --> 00:22:43.930
And so that, that is on my wishlist.

00:22:45.185 --> 00:22:51.495
On my wishlist for man bars to come
out with a, uh, wild, wild hog, honey

00:22:51.495 --> 00:22:54.075
mustard, rosemary stick at some point.

00:22:54.465 --> 00:22:54.535
We

00:22:54.945 --> 00:22:55.485
Travis Bader: better put

00:22:55.485 --> 00:22:56.015
Trevor Gibbs: a hog down

00:22:56.015 --> 00:22:56.975
Travis Bader: today so we can try that.

00:22:57.025 --> 00:22:57.435
Trevor Gibbs: Yeah,

00:22:57.515 --> 00:22:58.395
Travis Bader: exactly.

00:22:59.034 --> 00:22:59.974
Trevor Gibbs: So, uh, what

00:22:59.974 --> 00:23:00.024
Travis Bader: are

00:23:00.025 --> 00:23:01.545
Trevor Gibbs: the plans for
the next couple of days here?

00:23:02.205 --> 00:23:07.815
Well, we're kind of playing it by ear,
so we're going to sit here until, until

00:23:07.815 --> 00:23:09.585
we decide we don't want to anymore.

00:23:10.015 --> 00:23:17.150
And, um, If we have a long sit
here, we may just call it for today.

00:23:17.910 --> 00:23:23.890
Uh, if we decide we want to go back
and let you rest up a little bit

00:23:23.910 --> 00:23:27.819
since you're up at so early, give her
a beauty rest and we can always come

00:23:27.819 --> 00:23:34.100
back out cause we're thermal, not at
this one, but we can come out for like

00:23:34.100 --> 00:23:36.730
an evening on kind of sunset hunt.

00:23:37.570 --> 00:23:43.910
Um, so we could do that, but then we'd
have to call it, uh, You know, after last

00:23:43.910 --> 00:23:52.350
light or we can go potentially go out to
the other place that has the thermal and

00:23:52.350 --> 00:23:54.099
just go sit in the pasture all night.

00:23:55.100 --> 00:23:56.750
Well, for me, I can hunt.

00:23:57.060 --> 00:23:57.370
Right.

00:23:57.410 --> 00:23:57.850
Travis Bader: Tired.

00:23:57.890 --> 00:23:59.690
I can, not tired.

00:24:00.060 --> 00:24:03.110
It's, uh, getting on the
podcast when I get tired, the,

00:24:03.110 --> 00:24:04.310
uh, the brain starts to go.

00:24:04.320 --> 00:24:07.709
So I just figured, you know, kind of

00:24:07.709 --> 00:24:09.020
Trevor Gibbs: long story short as well.

00:24:09.100 --> 00:24:10.240
We'll hunt a bunch today.

00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:12.259
We'll hunt most of tomorrow.

00:24:12.260 --> 00:24:20.825
And then, and then, uh, We're going to go
make some, uh, venison, for sure, venison

00:24:20.835 --> 00:24:27.675
tamales with the dough that I took my
buddy to, took a buddy a couple of days,

00:24:27.715 --> 00:24:29.635
last week, and he shot his first doe.

00:24:29.635 --> 00:24:30.885
It was his first time hunting.

00:24:31.595 --> 00:24:34.765
Um, so he shot his first doe
and so we're going to go make,

00:24:34.795 --> 00:24:37.965
uh, venison tamales with that.

00:24:38.015 --> 00:24:38.874
Um, um, um.

00:24:39.235 --> 00:24:43.005
Maybe if there's a chance to get
use some of the meat we got today.

00:24:43.045 --> 00:24:43.805
We'll do that.

00:24:43.815 --> 00:24:48.365
And if we get a pig, we'll We'll
see if we can add that and otherwise

00:24:48.365 --> 00:24:52.635
we're gonna probably end up having
steak and back straps tonight Yeah, we

00:24:53.065 --> 00:24:53.875
Travis Bader: could get the squirrel.

00:24:53.875 --> 00:24:55.254
We get that little squirrel.

00:24:55.365 --> 00:24:58.345
So I've seen a cardinal checking it
out I've seen a squirrel down there.

00:24:58.755 --> 00:25:00.055
Did y'all eat squirrel up there?

00:25:00.755 --> 00:25:03.555
I Don't know if we all eat
squirrel, but I've eaten squirrel.

00:25:03.555 --> 00:25:05.265
Okay, you eat squirrel.

00:25:05.575 --> 00:25:09.355
I Not Weekly or anything.

00:25:10.135 --> 00:25:10.875
It's, yeah.

00:25:10.895 --> 00:25:11.485
Tree rat.

00:25:11.485 --> 00:25:11.694
Trevor Gibbs: Yeah.

00:25:11.695 --> 00:25:12.305
Travis Bader: I, yeah.

00:25:13.050 --> 00:25:13.300
Yeah.

00:25:13.300 --> 00:25:18.080
Growing up, uh, we had a, uh, I call
it a commercial fly fishing lodge.

00:25:18.080 --> 00:25:20.650
It was a fly fishing lodge that
had a commercial license on it,

00:25:20.650 --> 00:25:22.020
but it wasn't run commercially.

00:25:22.310 --> 00:25:22.560
Okay.

00:25:22.560 --> 00:25:24.540
And it was hike in or fly in.

00:25:25.060 --> 00:25:27.579
There was typically helicopter in there.

00:25:27.579 --> 00:25:32.189
They said, well, you can probably, you can
land a float plane, but at about 5, 000

00:25:32.190 --> 00:25:37.040
elevation, there is speculation whether
the lake was long enough to take it off.

00:25:37.070 --> 00:25:37.450
Trevor Gibbs: Gotcha.

00:25:37.690 --> 00:25:38.784
Travis Bader: So, uh, Yeah.

00:25:39.295 --> 00:25:42.415
I'd grow up out there with a
slingshot or bow and arrow or a

00:25:42.415 --> 00:25:44.125
little 22 and yeah, that's cool.

00:25:44.335 --> 00:25:45.565
And it was always a rule.

00:25:45.565 --> 00:25:47.245
Whatever, whatever I kill, I gotta eat.

00:25:47.245 --> 00:25:48.385
So I'd skin these things out.

00:25:48.385 --> 00:25:49.765
Salt, hide and yeah.

00:25:50.275 --> 00:25:54.685
And, uh, I wish I knew about, uh,
slow cooking and, uh, crockpots

00:25:54.685 --> 00:25:57.085
and pressure cookers back then
because it was a lot of tough meat.

00:25:57.355 --> 00:25:57.685
Trevor Gibbs: Yeah.

00:25:58.945 --> 00:26:01.855
Travis Bader: The, uh, talking
with Hank Shaw, 'cause we would,

00:26:01.945 --> 00:26:04.315
I would eat, uh, tree squirrels.

00:26:04.315 --> 00:26:05.575
I'd eat ground squirrels.

00:26:05.605 --> 00:26:06.055
Okay.

00:26:06.115 --> 00:26:06.685
Um.

00:26:07.550 --> 00:26:13.290
Like marmots and he said, I forget, it
was a small percentage, small number,

00:26:13.330 --> 00:26:19.360
but one in so many, I don't know,
thousand, uh, carried the bubonic

00:26:19.360 --> 00:26:21.839
plague for the ground squirrels.

00:26:21.889 --> 00:26:26.670
Apparently I didn't know that first
I'm hearing of it, but when he said

00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:28.420
that I stopped eating ground squirrel.

00:26:28.420 --> 00:26:29.540
Yeah, that makes sense.

00:26:29.600 --> 00:26:30.880
I don't want to roll those dice.

00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:32.409
I don't know.

00:26:34.379 --> 00:26:38.850
So, uh, a buddy of mine just, uh,
texted while we're talking here

00:26:39.060 --> 00:26:41.280
and he runs a couple of businesses.

00:26:41.280 --> 00:26:44.700
One of 'em is the Range
Langley out in, uh, in Langley.

00:26:44.970 --> 00:26:45.389
Okay.

00:26:45.690 --> 00:26:49.230
And, uh, we just had legislation.

00:26:49.230 --> 00:26:50.159
Are they listening to us?

00:26:50.430 --> 00:26:50.820
What's that?

00:26:50.909 --> 00:26:52.050
Are they listening to us?

00:26:52.110 --> 00:26:52.170
Yeah.

00:26:52.260 --> 00:26:52.830
Right now.

00:26:53.580 --> 00:26:59.190
Um, we had a legislation come
out in Canada and it just

00:26:59.190 --> 00:27:00.480
through ordering council.

00:27:01.080 --> 00:27:03.050
They banned a whole bunch of new firearms.

00:27:03.280 --> 00:27:03.870
Yeah.

00:27:04.020 --> 00:27:07.850
And he had to pull about 90 percent
of the guns off the wall that he'd

00:27:07.850 --> 00:27:09.139
rent out to the general public.

00:27:09.280 --> 00:27:09.600
Wow.

00:27:09.639 --> 00:27:12.479
And this is after they've
already banned like AR 15s and

00:27:12.489 --> 00:27:14.559
a whole bunch of other guns.

00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:17.809
He had to take down
large caliber rifles and.

00:27:18.009 --> 00:27:18.469
Trevor Gibbs: Yeah.

00:27:18.629 --> 00:27:19.629
Travis Bader: And, uh, yeah.

00:27:20.560 --> 00:27:23.489
You know, he and I have talked about
Texas a fair bit and, you know, just

00:27:23.499 --> 00:27:26.840
being here and seeing the different
attitude towards firearms between

00:27:26.840 --> 00:27:31.310
the Canadian side and the Texas side,
it's, uh, it really is night and day.

00:27:31.719 --> 00:27:34.939
Um, I jumped into the vehicle.

00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:37.379
Are you allowed to have a loaded
firearm in a vehicle here?

00:27:37.379 --> 00:27:38.379
Cause Canada, you can't.

00:27:39.129 --> 00:27:41.189
I'm all unloaded and coming on in.

00:27:41.879 --> 00:27:42.479
Um,

00:27:42.709 --> 00:27:45.679
Trevor Gibbs: yeah, I think I
told you just, Do the opposite

00:27:45.679 --> 00:27:47.490
of whatever is in Canada.

00:27:48.709 --> 00:27:50.620
Just be safe, but yeah, be safe.

00:27:50.629 --> 00:27:50.949
Just use

00:27:50.949 --> 00:27:51.399
Travis Bader: your head.

00:27:51.469 --> 00:27:51.949
Yeah.

00:27:52.179 --> 00:27:52.530
Trevor Gibbs: No,

00:27:52.540 --> 00:27:56.510
Travis Bader: it makes a lot of sense
as opposed to all these goofy rules

00:27:56.520 --> 00:27:58.820
that get piled on over and over.

00:27:58.820 --> 00:27:59.490
It's just seemed.

00:27:59.869 --> 00:28:02.229
Trevor Gibbs: Well, what's the,
like, what's going on up there?

00:28:02.229 --> 00:28:04.290
Like, I feel like all I hear about is.

00:28:05.290 --> 00:28:11.139
Like Trudeau sounds, and again, I'm
very uneducated on Canadian politics

00:28:11.409 --> 00:28:16.810
and all that, but just like the little
bit that I've heard and that I see

00:28:16.810 --> 00:28:23.620
up there, like what's going on with
Trudeau, like it just, like he sounds

00:28:23.679 --> 00:28:24.219
Travis Bader: wild.

00:28:24.230 --> 00:28:24.240
Megalomania.

00:28:24.270 --> 00:28:24.909
Yeah.

00:28:25.260 --> 00:28:26.660
I feel like Trump gets a

00:28:26.660 --> 00:28:29.780
Trevor Gibbs: bunch of narcissists,
a bunch of shit down here.

00:28:29.810 --> 00:28:33.450
But like Trudeau actually sounds
like he's doing all the things

00:28:33.450 --> 00:28:35.350
that people like accuse Trump of.

00:28:36.280 --> 00:28:37.030
Travis Bader: Isn't that funny?

00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:37.920
I always look at it.

00:28:37.930 --> 00:28:41.600
It's like the thief thinking everyone's
trying to steal from them, right?

00:28:42.080 --> 00:28:42.919
I better lock it up.

00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:43.850
Someone could steal this.

00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:44.760
Never crossed my mind.

00:28:44.760 --> 00:28:46.950
Someone could steal
it, but I guess, right?

00:28:47.270 --> 00:28:51.880
Well, cause it's on your mind and
the people who start bellowing out,

00:28:52.120 --> 00:28:53.320
look at that person over there.

00:28:53.320 --> 00:28:54.259
You gotta watch out for them.

00:28:54.620 --> 00:28:57.010
They're going to, whatever,
they're going to steal from you.

00:28:57.649 --> 00:28:59.230
Well, maybe that's because
it's on their mind.

00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:03.230
Time and time again, I see that and the.

00:29:05.015 --> 00:29:11.405
The power that, uh, gets exerted, it
can, it can get really scary, actually,

00:29:11.415 --> 00:29:15.134
some of the, uh, the bills that are being
put in place about, uh, communication,

00:29:15.134 --> 00:29:19.174
what people are allowed to say online,
you know, it's under the guise of doing

00:29:19.174 --> 00:29:23.034
good, under the guise of making sure
people don't get bullied online, I get

00:29:23.174 --> 00:29:26.545
behind all that, but you got to watch
out what freedoms you start giving

00:29:26.545 --> 00:29:29.444
up in order to make sure you're safe,
wasn't it your president, I think it

00:29:29.445 --> 00:29:33.730
was Jefferson said, who, you know, Those
who had sacrificed their rights and

00:29:33.730 --> 00:29:35.710
freedoms for safety deserve neither.

00:29:35.710 --> 00:29:37.609
Yeah.

00:29:37.610 --> 00:29:37.780
Trevor Gibbs: Yeah.

00:29:37.780 --> 00:29:46.529
I kind of feel like we were starting
to head down that path with, uh, I

00:29:46.529 --> 00:29:50.690
feel like the Democrats, the Democrats,
the new democratic party, I call them

00:29:50.730 --> 00:29:55.330
because I feel like they're not the
same thing as 20 years ago, but I feel

00:29:55.330 --> 00:29:58.829
like it was, that is their desires.

00:30:01.235 --> 00:30:06.335
It is to have kind of an iron, a
ruling fist, iron, whatever the phrase

00:30:06.345 --> 00:30:09.085
is of just controlling everything.

00:30:09.085 --> 00:30:15.315
And I mean, some of these guys were
saying that certain amendments, like

00:30:15.985 --> 00:30:19.625
our amendments were like getting in the
way of them doing their jobs and stuff.

00:30:19.635 --> 00:30:21.630
And it's like, Whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:25.970
Like those amendments, you just hear
what you just said, you know, and stuff

00:30:25.970 --> 00:30:30.040
like that, where it's like, they don't
even know they're so far gone that they

00:30:30.040 --> 00:30:34.550
don't even know how crazy that sounds.

00:30:34.730 --> 00:30:36.530
Travis Bader: The road
to hell is paved with.

00:30:37.220 --> 00:30:38.010
Good intentions.

00:30:38.220 --> 00:30:39.550
Isn't that the flowery path?

00:30:39.560 --> 00:30:39.760
The point.

00:30:39.800 --> 00:30:40.120
I

00:30:40.120 --> 00:30:42.890
Trevor Gibbs: don't even know if
it's good intentions anymore, man.

00:30:43.100 --> 00:30:45.060
Travis Bader: Well, you
know, people, I get it.

00:30:45.090 --> 00:30:49.950
I get people saying, look at, I don't
want people to get injured by a firearm.

00:30:49.950 --> 00:30:50.580
I get it.

00:30:50.590 --> 00:30:56.090
I mean, I can't think of anything
scarier than somebody with a firearm

00:30:56.130 --> 00:30:58.030
who's intent on doing injury.

00:30:58.370 --> 00:31:00.580
Damage or ill will towards other people.

00:31:00.580 --> 00:31:02.100
Like that's scary, but that's not the gun.

00:31:02.620 --> 00:31:04.240
That's a person that's
just as scary as a person.

00:31:04.770 --> 00:31:07.210
Trevor Gibbs: We talked about that
when I was on your podcast, where

00:31:07.420 --> 00:31:13.230
it's like the answer to that is more
education and actually get, get.

00:31:14.550 --> 00:31:22.330
22s and BB guns and four 10 shotguns and
like have class where you, or you get

00:31:22.330 --> 00:31:26.070
guns in kids hands and teach them how to
use them and teach them what a safety is

00:31:26.070 --> 00:31:28.000
and teach them how dangerous they are.

00:31:28.070 --> 00:31:32.200
You know, like, like it's like,
well, yeah, education is the answer.

00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:32.720
Not

00:31:34.290 --> 00:31:35.470
Travis Bader: Or I'll
make you good drivers.

00:31:35.470 --> 00:31:36.210
We can educate you.

00:31:36.210 --> 00:31:37.540
Yeah, absolutely.

00:31:37.730 --> 00:31:37.860
Yeah.

00:31:37.860 --> 00:31:38.840
I find it interesting.

00:31:38.850 --> 00:31:40.320
You talk about new Democrats.

00:31:40.320 --> 00:31:44.560
I remember, uh, people are saying,
well, what happened to Rogan?

00:31:45.190 --> 00:31:49.680
What Rogan used to be a Democrat
and you, you forced him away.

00:31:49.710 --> 00:31:51.610
Well, no, no, you didn't.

00:31:51.630 --> 00:31:53.710
He still got the same mindset as before.

00:31:53.710 --> 00:31:56.950
It's just the party has moved so
far away from where it was before.

00:31:57.560 --> 00:32:00.460
And that's the same thing with liberals
in Canada, a lot of my ideology is

00:32:00.460 --> 00:32:03.900
actually very liberal or libertarian, but

00:32:03.900 --> 00:32:06.960
Trevor Gibbs: now it sounds
socialist or communist.

00:32:07.010 --> 00:32:07.370
Yeah.

00:32:07.510 --> 00:32:07.870
Yeah.

00:32:07.870 --> 00:32:08.700
And all that stuff.

00:32:08.700 --> 00:32:12.480
It's the same here where it's
like the Rogans of the world.

00:32:12.500 --> 00:32:15.680
I think there's a lot of, I mean, I
would consider myself one of those

00:32:15.690 --> 00:32:21.960
where it's like, Historically, very
much more liberal, do whatever you want.

00:32:21.970 --> 00:32:25.320
Probably resonated more with
Democrats growing, you know, when

00:32:25.320 --> 00:32:26.400
I was younger and all of that.

00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:29.840
And now it's like unrecognizable.

00:32:29.840 --> 00:32:36.310
And for the first time in my life, I
voted all Republican and it wasn't even

00:32:36.780 --> 00:32:41.470
didn't even bat an eye, didn't even bat
an eye just because, and I, I mean, I, I

00:32:41.470 --> 00:32:43.120
think a lot of the country is that way.

00:32:43.140 --> 00:32:49.345
Cause the results we had were, So
glaring for, I mean, you know, I'll

00:32:49.345 --> 00:32:51.445
find interesting one, everything.

00:32:51.565 --> 00:32:51.815
Travis Bader: Yeah.

00:32:51.815 --> 00:32:56.935
If you go into the States where they allow
people to vote without identification

00:32:57.335 --> 00:33:00.545
and you change that rule to where
they have identification, that'll be

00:33:00.555 --> 00:33:02.405
interesting to see how that turns out.

00:33:02.405 --> 00:33:06.085
If it's the same, or if there's a
marked difference, even stuff like

00:33:06.085 --> 00:33:06.575
Trevor Gibbs: that, like.

00:33:08.235 --> 00:33:09.215
Travis Bader: That
doesn't make sense to me.

00:33:09.255 --> 00:33:13.945
Trevor Gibbs: That makes all the sense
in the world is to force people to Why

00:33:13.945 --> 00:33:15.545
wouldn't they Why wouldn't you want that?

00:33:15.565 --> 00:33:15.895
Right.

00:33:15.945 --> 00:33:19.925
And it's like the only reason
for that would be, you know,

00:33:19.935 --> 00:33:21.255
like you're trying to cheat.

00:33:22.025 --> 00:33:22.245
Yeah.

00:33:22.435 --> 00:33:27.285
Like there is no other,
other like logical answer to

00:33:27.910 --> 00:33:28.760
Travis Bader: Play the game straight.

00:33:28.770 --> 00:33:29.550
You don't have to worry about it.

00:33:29.590 --> 00:33:30.060
Trevor Gibbs: Yeah.

00:33:30.350 --> 00:33:36.150
And so even stuff like that, where
that, that now has become like a super

00:33:36.150 --> 00:33:38.350
controversial, like right wing take.

00:33:38.350 --> 00:33:40.620
And it's like, well, it's
fucking common sense.

00:33:40.810 --> 00:33:41.800
Yeah, I agree a hundred

00:33:41.800 --> 00:33:42.250
Travis Bader: percent.

00:33:43.080 --> 00:33:45.430
What I find interesting is the narrative.

00:33:45.430 --> 00:33:46.240
Sorry for cussing.

00:33:48.120 --> 00:33:48.930
Hey, it's okay.

00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:54.390
Uh, the narrative on, uh, On Trump
that you hear and how skewed it is

00:33:54.450 --> 00:33:58.430
and how, um, like, I don't agree
with everything the guy does.

00:33:58.930 --> 00:34:02.790
I don't think he walks on water,
but I sure as hell don't believe a

00:34:02.790 --> 00:34:07.110
fraction of the things that are said
about him because they're so easily

00:34:07.110 --> 00:34:09.690
shown to be false over and over again.

00:34:11.050 --> 00:34:13.490
Trevor Gibbs: And that's
the part that it's people.

00:34:15.900 --> 00:34:18.470
And again, he definitely
says a bunch of wild shit.

00:34:18.470 --> 00:34:19.280
Sure he does.

00:34:19.970 --> 00:34:20.410
Bye.

00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:27.410
And if you don't like him just for like,
the wild shit he says, that's one thing.

00:34:27.410 --> 00:34:31.720
If you just like, don't like that type of
energy and all that, totally, whatever.

00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:37.460
Certain people energies resonate with
certain people, but If you're not liking

00:34:37.460 --> 00:34:43.120
him, like if you're calling him a Felon
and you're, you're saying he's a Russian

00:34:43.130 --> 00:34:48.560
spy and you're like, all this stuff
that's been debunked a bajillion times.

00:34:48.630 --> 00:34:53.810
If you're still spouting that stuff
out, it's like, man, you gotta,

00:34:56.030 --> 00:34:56.440
I don't know.

00:34:56.500 --> 00:34:57.870
You gotta take a look in the mirror.

00:34:58.350 --> 00:35:01.710
Travis Bader: I get tired of,
uh, I get tired of people voting

00:35:01.710 --> 00:35:02.930
for somebody that they like.

00:35:03.355 --> 00:35:07.455
Yeah, I like the way they look or
I, I, I, you know, I, I think I, I'd

00:35:07.455 --> 00:35:08.435
like to hang out with that person.

00:35:08.435 --> 00:35:09.535
They seem like a nice person.

00:35:09.555 --> 00:35:11.065
I don't care if a person is nice.

00:35:11.065 --> 00:35:13.705
I don't care if the person's attractive.

00:35:14.485 --> 00:35:17.795
I care if they've got sound
policy and they've got a history

00:35:17.825 --> 00:35:19.885
of proper performance, the best.

00:35:20.905 --> 00:35:24.325
Predictor of future
performances, past performance.

00:35:24.455 --> 00:35:25.575
What have you done in the past?

00:35:26.115 --> 00:35:27.865
You were a drama teacher.

00:35:28.125 --> 00:35:28.695
Got it.

00:35:28.815 --> 00:35:32.815
And you were fired from that job
and a, uh, a ski slash snowboard

00:35:32.815 --> 00:35:34.365
instructor for a season or something.

00:35:34.575 --> 00:35:35.235
Who is this?

00:35:35.255 --> 00:35:35.705
Trudeau.

00:35:35.835 --> 00:35:36.325
Oh, really?

00:35:36.555 --> 00:35:37.785
Yeah, it's our prime minister.

00:35:38.395 --> 00:35:38.575
Yeah.

00:35:38.575 --> 00:35:40.875
He had a, um, he was a drama teacher.

00:35:40.885 --> 00:35:41.275
I think it was a

00:35:41.295 --> 00:35:41.455
Trevor Gibbs: point grade.

00:35:41.455 --> 00:35:44.135
He looks like he'd be
a good ski instructor.

00:35:44.275 --> 00:35:44.925
Yeah, I think he would.

00:35:44.965 --> 00:35:47.045
He's got ski instructor vibes and looks.

00:35:47.275 --> 00:35:48.105
Totally does.

00:35:48.945 --> 00:35:52.755
Travis Bader: Look at, you're going
to have to pizza and not French fry.

00:35:52.765 --> 00:35:53.965
You're not having a good day.

00:35:53.965 --> 00:35:56.985
If you're French fry, when you're supposed
to pizza, I can see him doing that.

00:35:57.915 --> 00:35:58.605
I can see him doing that.

00:35:58.605 --> 00:35:59.185
That's funny.

00:36:00.115 --> 00:36:02.995
But, um, yeah, look at
a person's track record.

00:36:04.135 --> 00:36:06.125
Don't just look at what they
say they're going to do.

00:36:06.325 --> 00:36:06.645
Yeah.

00:36:06.705 --> 00:36:09.035
Look at what they've done in
other parts of business and other

00:36:09.035 --> 00:36:13.985
parts of their life and, and start
making determinations on that.

00:36:14.035 --> 00:36:15.815
Trevor Gibbs: Well, that was
the big thing about Harris.

00:36:15.965 --> 00:36:16.535
Is that.

00:36:18.220 --> 00:36:20.760
There was no, there was no platform.

00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:21.590
There was no,

00:36:23.690 --> 00:36:26.640
she didn't, she didn't
have a good record at all.

00:36:27.990 --> 00:36:34.510
You know, everyone, everyone who was anti
Trump, like, wanted to like, paint him

00:36:34.510 --> 00:36:39.370
as a criminal, but she's done a bunch of
shady shit when she was in California,

00:36:39.370 --> 00:36:43.500
and it's, I'm not even trying to make
this a political thing, but it's just

00:36:43.500 --> 00:36:49.280
more of, How are you taking in information
and deciphering it and going back?

00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:55.050
And actually, are you making judgments
on, are you looking at the whole picture?

00:36:55.050 --> 00:37:01.260
Are you looking at confirmation
bias because you don't like someone

00:37:01.270 --> 00:37:06.960
or, you know, that, how, how much
are you looking at stuff really?

00:37:07.830 --> 00:37:10.310
Travis Bader: Well, it's a, it's
an interesting age that we live

00:37:10.310 --> 00:37:12.590
in now, the age of social media.

00:37:13.485 --> 00:37:17.415
Or people can learn about things
on Tik TOK that they're not seeing

00:37:17.415 --> 00:37:19.795
in their, their local newspapers.

00:37:20.995 --> 00:37:24.395
It's teaching people to be more
discerning about what they see

00:37:24.395 --> 00:37:29.290
and what they hear, because anyone
can post something on Tik TOK.

00:37:29.290 --> 00:37:34.895
Well, that level of journalistic integrity
seems to be gone and anyone can post

00:37:34.895 --> 00:37:39.245
what they want on TV or, and if they
say the wrong thing, they just put a

00:37:39.245 --> 00:37:41.385
tiny little bit of an, a redaction.

00:37:42.425 --> 00:37:48.805
But I put a, uh, a post out a few days
ago in regards to the, uh, the new

00:37:48.805 --> 00:37:53.375
handgun ban, because I got so many people
calling up and saying, what do we do?

00:37:53.395 --> 00:37:55.085
What organization can I support?

00:37:55.135 --> 00:37:56.775
Uh, is there a petition somewhere?

00:37:57.185 --> 00:38:00.575
And I said, do whatever you do, you do it.

00:38:01.045 --> 00:38:02.585
You don't have to rely on somebody else.

00:38:02.845 --> 00:38:07.145
Don't just give money to someone and say,
I'm done, um, did a podcast with Daniel

00:38:07.155 --> 00:38:09.385
Fritter and he was made a very good point.

00:38:09.860 --> 00:38:13.260
You know, just write or
email your MP, right.

00:38:13.260 --> 00:38:19.100
Or email the people in, in, uh, yeah,
your members of legislative assembly

00:38:19.100 --> 00:38:21.780
or whatever you'd have down here.

00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:27.590
Um, but the individual has a lot of
power and we have a lot that we can say.

00:38:27.590 --> 00:38:32.790
And it's interesting how this kind of goes
to the political side because firearms are

00:38:32.790 --> 00:38:38.685
political, hunting's political, everything
that we're doing can be, Positively

00:38:38.755 --> 00:38:41.655
or adversely affected by, by politics.

00:38:41.825 --> 00:38:42.285
Right.

00:38:42.405 --> 00:38:46.155
And I think the more people can realize
the power that they have to actually

00:38:46.175 --> 00:38:51.205
stand up and affect change, even
with little conversations like this.

00:38:51.395 --> 00:38:51.835
Sure.

00:38:53.255 --> 00:38:53.965
What do you see in there?

00:38:55.165 --> 00:38:57.465
Trevor Gibbs: Just checking to
see if there's anything going on

00:38:57.465 --> 00:39:02.625
anywhere, the sun came, the clouds
parted and the sun came out.

00:39:02.625 --> 00:39:03.695
So I was curious if.

00:39:04.385 --> 00:39:07.045
Travis Bader: So the pigs will like the
clouds more than they'll like the, uh,

00:39:10.485 --> 00:39:12.535
I get the feeling they're
kind of like bears.

00:39:12.585 --> 00:39:16.275
Does a, does a wind kind of keep
them uh, sketched out a little bit?

00:39:17.235 --> 00:39:19.905
Trevor Gibbs: I think that's with
most animals because it takes

00:39:19.905 --> 00:39:21.935
away two of their three senses.

00:39:22.085 --> 00:39:22.445
Yeah.

00:39:22.955 --> 00:39:28.425
So, you know, if, if, and it's their
two strongest senses and, and it messes

00:39:28.425 --> 00:39:35.225
with their hearing and it messes with
their smell, um, But I mean, like we

00:39:35.225 --> 00:39:40.575
were talking earlier though, I mean,
I've seen pigs on cameras at 3 p.

00:39:40.575 --> 00:39:40.595
m.

00:39:40.605 --> 00:39:44.075
in the middle of our summer
when it's 110 outside.

00:39:45.415 --> 00:39:50.095
Uh, which doesn't make,
doesn't make any sense.

00:39:50.895 --> 00:39:52.488
It's winter hell right now, isn't it?

00:39:52.488 --> 00:39:53.215
Yeah, the wind's,

00:39:53.225 --> 00:39:54.495
Travis Bader: the wind's getting after it.

00:39:54.805 --> 00:40:00.855
Yeah, people might hear
branches hitting the blind here.

00:40:04.215 --> 00:40:06.295
Well, you know, I've shot more game.

00:40:06.305 --> 00:40:07.265
We're talking about this earlier.

00:40:07.265 --> 00:40:09.705
I shot more game at 10 o'clock
than I have at first light.

00:40:09.755 --> 00:40:10.635
Yeah, for sure.

00:40:10.705 --> 00:40:11.875
I'll get up at first light.

00:40:11.875 --> 00:40:12.925
I'll be out there for it.

00:40:12.985 --> 00:40:17.495
But that magic hour seems to be
around, uh, you know, 10 o'clock.

00:40:17.885 --> 00:40:21.955
And being out midday, there's the number
of people I know will go back to camp.

00:40:21.985 --> 00:40:23.045
They go out for the morning.

00:40:23.045 --> 00:40:23.915
They'll go back to camp.

00:40:23.925 --> 00:40:26.715
They'll go in the evening and
the people are willing to have

00:40:26.715 --> 00:40:29.555
a nap outside and just, uh, Hi.

00:40:30.580 --> 00:40:32.320
Keep one ear on alert.

00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:35.750
Whether this will they sleep in
I've I've found success that way.

00:40:35.930 --> 00:40:39.760
Trevor Gibbs: Yeah, I mean you can't Can't
kill anything if you're not out there.

00:40:39.990 --> 00:40:41.060
It's a long shot from the camp.

00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:42.340
That's right.

00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:46.350
You know a long cast
from the couch exactly

00:40:49.190 --> 00:40:50.410
Yeah, what's uh,

00:40:52.570 --> 00:40:56.550
I Guess what is I'm curious
about the the gun stuff.

00:40:56.570 --> 00:40:57.190
Is that

00:40:59.230 --> 00:41:01.940
What are they saying is, what
are they saying is the reason for

00:41:01.940 --> 00:41:03.400
all these bans and everything?

00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:04.950
Just safety?

00:41:05.420 --> 00:41:09.140
Travis Bader: Well, the most recent ones
are brought out the day prior to the,

00:41:09.140 --> 00:41:12.500
uh, they call it the Montreal Massacre.

00:41:12.590 --> 00:41:17.740
The pol, we, Polytechnique, the
guy came into the university there

00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:20.350
and, uh, shot a bunch of women.

00:41:21.140 --> 00:41:25.700
Uh, Gamil Gavrilo, I forget
what his name was later.

00:41:25.700 --> 00:41:29.440
It's changed to Mark Lapine
and everyone, uh, goes by that

00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:30.870
name that he's, he's known by.

00:41:30.870 --> 00:41:37.880
So the anti hunting groups will
find a cause to get behind.

00:41:38.170 --> 00:41:38.450
Yeah.

00:41:38.530 --> 00:41:39.810
It's an emotional discussion.

00:41:39.810 --> 00:41:41.380
They'll find something that's emotional.

00:41:41.740 --> 00:41:43.880
Like, and people call them grave dancers.

00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:44.250
What are you doing?

00:41:44.250 --> 00:41:45.080
Dancing in the graves?

00:41:45.080 --> 00:41:48.990
They say that doing whatever,
whatever they can to, uh, stop

00:41:48.990 --> 00:41:49.970
this from happening again.

00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.020
And I get the emotion behind it.

00:41:53.090 --> 00:41:55.780
And I, I'm not going to sit there
and tell somebody who's adversely

00:41:55.780 --> 00:41:59.400
affected by firearms that they're great
things and you should have one, but

00:41:59.980 --> 00:42:03.900
I'm also not going to tell them that
they shouldn't have certain things.

00:42:04.020 --> 00:42:09.140
What might not be right for them,
uh, might not necessarily be the

00:42:09.140 --> 00:42:10.520
right answer for somebody else.

00:42:10.520 --> 00:42:12.370
You can't try and impose
your will on everyone.

00:42:12.370 --> 00:42:17.040
Cause the reality is the person
already did something illegal.

00:42:17.100 --> 00:42:18.070
You're out there killing people.

00:42:18.070 --> 00:42:19.040
You're not supposed to be doing that.

00:42:19.470 --> 00:42:24.020
And it really isn't hard for somebody
with a little bit of, just a couple

00:42:24.020 --> 00:42:28.790
of brain cells to rub together to find
ways to do serious damage to people.

00:42:28.860 --> 00:42:29.120
Yeah.

00:42:29.130 --> 00:42:32.130
I mean, our largest, nobody really
talks about it, but Canada's

00:42:32.160 --> 00:42:34.800
largest, um, mass killing.

00:42:35.455 --> 00:42:40.695
Uh, and people will say, oh, that
was that, uh, Porto Peak, uh, Nova

00:42:40.695 --> 00:42:44.565
Scotia fellow who went around and shot
a bunch of people a few years back,

00:42:44.565 --> 00:42:46.155
which of course enacted more gun laws.

00:42:46.155 --> 00:42:46.965
No, it's not.

00:42:47.395 --> 00:42:50.815
These guys went out to the gas station,
got some petrol, threw it down a,

00:42:50.815 --> 00:42:54.145
um, a staircase at the Bluebeard
cafe and lit everyone on fire.

00:42:54.145 --> 00:42:56.955
Um, and, and, and, and, and, and, and,
and, and, That's, that's the largest,

00:42:56.965 --> 00:42:58.615
uh, mass killing that we've got.

00:42:59.335 --> 00:43:01.955
Um, how hard is it to
go get gas at the store?

00:43:02.595 --> 00:43:07.895
So the, the root underlying cause of
what's actually happening here is a very

00:43:07.895 --> 00:43:09.435
difficult thing for people to address.

00:43:09.835 --> 00:43:14.035
It's difficult for newspapers to write
about it in, in, in a simplistic way.

00:43:14.035 --> 00:43:17.615
It's difficult for politicians to say,
look at the change we've made immediately.

00:43:18.045 --> 00:43:21.485
It's easy to say now we've
banned all these guns.

00:43:21.585 --> 00:43:21.975
Yeah.

00:43:21.975 --> 00:43:22.114
Yeah.

00:43:22.465 --> 00:43:24.775
There won't be another
crime with a gun in Canada.

00:43:24.895 --> 00:43:25.895
We've got rid of them all.

00:43:26.475 --> 00:43:29.925
Well, we live right next door to
the largest producer in the world.

00:43:30.165 --> 00:43:31.465
How long before the next one?

00:43:31.755 --> 00:43:32.675
Well, that's it.

00:43:33.105 --> 00:43:33.685
So.

00:43:33.935 --> 00:43:44.395
Um, there's a lot of root conditions
that go towards prescription

00:43:44.405 --> 00:43:49.335
drugs, the misuse of how people,
doctors would, the opiate crisis.

00:43:49.335 --> 00:43:49.535
Yeah.

00:43:49.905 --> 00:43:55.535
Which is fueled by doctors wantonly
prescribing opiates and in ways

00:43:56.685 --> 00:43:59.575
that they shouldn't have, that
are being called out for now, but

00:44:00.205 --> 00:44:01.705
these are more complex issues.

00:44:01.715 --> 00:44:02.895
How do you fix poverty?

00:44:02.905 --> 00:44:04.415
How do you cure mental health?

00:44:04.945 --> 00:44:08.245
I know we'll ban all guns, done.

00:44:10.045 --> 00:44:13.195
And all that does is it means you
and I know the law abiding people

00:44:13.985 --> 00:44:15.505
will continue to abide by the law.

00:44:15.625 --> 00:44:16.595
They won't have guns.

00:44:17.505 --> 00:44:21.745
And that was that commit the crimes
who aren't abiding by the laws will

00:44:21.765 --> 00:44:25.925
continue doing what they're doing,
but without any sort of consequence

00:44:25.955 --> 00:44:32.745
now, like here, you walk in somebody's
property, you break into their house.

00:44:34.255 --> 00:44:37.485
There's a consequence that you're
thinking about, you know, they say

00:44:37.485 --> 00:44:39.395
an armed society is a polite society.

00:44:39.395 --> 00:44:41.535
And I've had, I believe it.

00:44:41.535 --> 00:44:46.405
I had a guy at, uh, uh, with NATO
went to school with him and he was.

00:44:47.155 --> 00:44:49.455
Arguing with me back,
that's not true at all.

00:44:49.455 --> 00:44:50.295
It's not true at all.

00:44:50.715 --> 00:44:57.105
Well, the idea behind, I think Peterson
says it, a weak man is not a good man.

00:44:57.365 --> 00:44:57.745
Right.

00:44:57.815 --> 00:44:58.075
Right.

00:44:58.075 --> 00:45:01.255
And he says a person who can
do damage, who can hurt other

00:45:01.255 --> 00:45:04.865
people, but who keeps himself in
check, that's a person who's good.

00:45:04.905 --> 00:45:08.225
A weak person is just the person
who doesn't have anything else.

00:45:08.225 --> 00:45:09.655
They can't do damage to begin with.

00:45:09.685 --> 00:45:10.995
It doesn't make them good or bad.

00:45:10.995 --> 00:45:11.215
Right.

00:45:11.225 --> 00:45:15.100
Just, But the person who has
the power and has the ability

00:45:15.130 --> 00:45:16.750
that is able to control it.

00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:18.240
That's, that's a good person.

00:45:18.570 --> 00:45:18.900
Yeah.

00:45:18.990 --> 00:45:23.620
Um, and it was going off a little
bit of a tangent here and maybe

00:45:23.620 --> 00:45:25.400
it's cause I was up at zero.

00:45:28.390 --> 00:45:28.950
So what do you think?

00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:31.759
You think we're going to have a hog
come out and do a, into this here?

00:45:32.180 --> 00:45:32.870
I don't know.

00:45:33.200 --> 00:45:34.380
You know what I'm tempted to do?

00:45:34.710 --> 00:45:38.010
I don't know if it's productive
or fruitful, but as we walk down

00:45:38.010 --> 00:45:40.140
here, you see all these little
trails on this side where you

00:45:40.140 --> 00:45:41.900
can, you clearly see game trails.

00:45:41.930 --> 00:45:42.749
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:45:42.750 --> 00:45:44.950
Oh, there's game trails
all throughout this place.

00:45:45.010 --> 00:45:45.140
Yeah.

00:45:45.140 --> 00:45:45.390
Yeah.

00:45:45.430 --> 00:45:47.080
Do you ever, do you ever walk them or.

00:45:47.130 --> 00:45:47.430
Sure.

00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:48.450
Or set up on them?

00:45:48.450 --> 00:45:52.740
Or do you, um, or it's just the
most productive way is this.

00:45:52.740 --> 00:45:59.300
Trevor Gibbs: The, the
difficult part about getting

00:45:59.300 --> 00:46:01.370
in the woods so deep is that.

00:46:01.430 --> 00:46:05.920
It's woods.

00:46:07.530 --> 00:46:08.350
Retrieval.

00:46:08.600 --> 00:46:11.320
Well, not, not only that,
but just clear shots.

00:46:11.590 --> 00:46:18.680
Um, you can see, I mean, I've been,
there's, there is a public land spot

00:46:19.030 --> 00:46:23.960
kind of north of Austin and I'll go bow
hunting for pigs up there sometimes.

00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:29.470
And I've been, I've been to where,
I've had 30 pigs around me and haven't

00:46:29.470 --> 00:46:32.970
been able to get a shot off just
because all the branches and trees

00:46:32.980 --> 00:46:35.210
and I can see that and all of that.

00:46:35.210 --> 00:46:42.850
And so it's maybe a little less
concerned with the rifle, but still,

00:46:44.150 --> 00:46:46.630
you know, still not ideal conditions.

00:46:47.805 --> 00:46:52.355
Um, but with that being said, obviously
there's always little openings and

00:46:53.345 --> 00:46:57.895
maybe you get to where you can,
but we can certainly sit here for

00:46:57.895 --> 00:47:01.085
a little bit longer and then go,
I want to know what the future for

00:47:01.685 --> 00:47:03.065
Travis Bader: the future for Manbar is.

00:47:03.505 --> 00:47:06.465
I want to know where the next
step is for, uh, for Manbar.

00:47:06.465 --> 00:47:09.205
Cause we talked about it in the podcast
you were on before, sort of what you're

00:47:09.205 --> 00:47:14.315
doing with it and what's, what's your
dream in the next year, five years.

00:47:15.910 --> 00:47:18.420
Trevor Gibbs: I would
say that in the next,

00:47:20.790 --> 00:47:23.180
ultimately, I would like to have

00:47:27.160 --> 00:47:33.050
six to eight different sticks that
are different meat combinations

00:47:33.050 --> 00:47:34.450
and flavors that I've got.

00:47:35.460 --> 00:47:43.665
I would like to be, um, Selling
some, you know, some merchandise,

00:47:43.675 --> 00:47:45.155
some t shirts, stuff like that.

00:47:45.195 --> 00:47:50.005
But, uh, also really want to,
we're doing a knife giveaway for

00:47:50.055 --> 00:47:51.905
Christmas with my buddy Wyatt.

00:47:52.065 --> 00:47:52.495
Travis Bader: Yeah.

00:47:52.905 --> 00:47:56.385
Trevor Gibbs: Um, that's the, uh, the
one he made a knife with the forged one.

00:47:56.385 --> 00:47:56.635
Yeah.

00:47:56.665 --> 00:47:58.435
So he made us a really cool.

00:47:58.445 --> 00:47:59.435
What's his company again?

00:47:59.635 --> 00:48:03.625
Uh, Breeze Forge, B R E E S E.

00:48:04.490 --> 00:48:08.980
But I got him to make us a
really cool, uh, chef's knife.

00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:12.830
That's I'll show you a picture,
but it's, it's beautiful.

00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:19.460
It's, uh, and I, and I'd like to be
working with just more craftsmen and

00:48:19.470 --> 00:48:24.680
more people who were making beautiful
things and helping them get their

00:48:24.680 --> 00:48:32.960
workout and, um, hope to be, or
we've started a podcast that, um,

00:48:33.535 --> 00:48:35.305
Is in the process of being edited.

00:48:35.305 --> 00:48:38.555
We haven't launched yet, but we've
gotten a few episodes in, and,

00:48:39.305 --> 00:48:41.195
uh, where it's just doing this.

00:48:41.235 --> 00:48:45.805
Me taking people hunting, and us having
conversations, and a lot of it is with

00:48:45.805 --> 00:48:51.770
new hunters, and, uh, just Like hearing
about their relationship with guns and

00:48:52.450 --> 00:48:57.090
what it felt like to kill an animal
and nature and what was it like to skin

00:48:57.090 --> 00:49:02.570
an animal and like my buddy Adam last
week when, when I was teaching him how

00:49:02.570 --> 00:49:08.990
to, how to skin the animal and butcher
it, he, uh, he made this comment.

00:49:09.020 --> 00:49:12.470
He was like, man, the
warmth really makes it real.

00:49:12.550 --> 00:49:14.150
And it was such a light.

00:49:15.410 --> 00:49:16.300
Great comment.

00:49:16.310 --> 00:49:17.100
Cause it was like,

00:49:17.530 --> 00:49:17.950
Travis Bader: that's right.

00:49:18.550 --> 00:49:19.490
You're absolutely right.

00:49:19.520 --> 00:49:19.930
Like it

00:49:19.930 --> 00:49:23.630
Trevor Gibbs: is still warm and that's
not something that I think about anymore.

00:49:23.630 --> 00:49:24.810
And it's just part of it.

00:49:24.810 --> 00:49:27.280
But that was something that he
noticed that I thought was really

00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:29.800
cool and I was happy articulated it.

00:49:29.810 --> 00:49:35.690
So basically just trying to, the whole
premise of it is trying to onboard people

00:49:35.690 --> 00:49:41.370
and get people outside and really make
intimidating things, less intimidating.

00:49:41.695 --> 00:49:46.355
And so we went out to, uh, a couple
of weeks ago, went out to Sheepdog

00:49:46.355 --> 00:49:52.805
Response, Tim Kennedy's place, they've
got a new, uh, within, within Sheepdog

00:49:52.815 --> 00:49:55.115
Response, they've got a new gun shop.

00:49:55.165 --> 00:49:56.635
It's called Noble Defender.

00:49:57.580 --> 00:50:01.460
And so we went out there, I took Harry
from the meat mafia, the guy killed

00:50:01.460 --> 00:50:05.460
the pig with, and we went through the
process and filmed the whole process

00:50:05.460 --> 00:50:07.180
of him buying his first hunting rifle.

00:50:07.690 --> 00:50:08.260
What'd he get?

00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:10.190
Uh, he got a 6.

00:50:10.230 --> 00:50:10.999
5 Creedmoor.

00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:14.170
They had a really good deal
going on that Tikka as well?

00:50:14.600 --> 00:50:15.300
Not a Tikka.

00:50:15.300 --> 00:50:16.800
I'm trying to remember.

00:50:18.500 --> 00:50:21.230
It's slipping my mind
right now what brand it is.

00:50:21.390 --> 00:50:27.620
Um, but, but we just went through
the whole process of, hey, Here's

00:50:27.620 --> 00:50:29.640
a guy who's been hunting once.

00:50:29.640 --> 00:50:31.020
He wants to get into it.

00:50:32.090 --> 00:50:33.490
Doesn't really know what he wants.

00:50:33.490 --> 00:50:37.000
Like, what questions
are we supposed to ask?

00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:38.440
What are we supposed to look for?

00:50:38.450 --> 00:50:40.750
What price range are we talking about?

00:50:41.540 --> 00:50:47.315
In hopes that it just For anyone
who's, you know, thinking about

00:50:47.315 --> 00:50:50.395
doing this, hopefully they can
see it's like, okay, he did it.

00:50:50.405 --> 00:50:51.235
Maybe I can do it.

00:50:51.235 --> 00:50:52.055
It's less scary.

00:50:52.615 --> 00:50:52.725
Travis Bader: And

00:50:52.725 --> 00:50:53.685
Trevor Gibbs: he had such a good time.

00:50:53.685 --> 00:50:57.155
We actually shot a second episode
about handguns afterwards.

00:50:57.215 --> 00:50:57.595
Did you?

00:50:57.675 --> 00:50:59.495
Um, about concealed carry.

00:50:59.605 --> 00:50:59.985
Okay.

00:51:00.405 --> 00:51:01.145
And all of that.

00:51:01.165 --> 00:51:03.555
And so it was just, all right,
well, what do I look for if

00:51:03.555 --> 00:51:04.765
I'm looking for a handgun?

00:51:04.765 --> 00:51:07.815
What, what are the things
I need to think about?

00:51:07.955 --> 00:51:09.045
I brought up the point.

00:51:09.045 --> 00:51:14.715
It's like if you're buying it for
protection and to carry on you, well,

00:51:14.725 --> 00:51:16.855
you gotta understand what that means.

00:51:16.855 --> 00:51:23.225
Like, if you're going to have it, are
you, you know, better to have, like we

00:51:23.225 --> 00:51:24.875
said, better to have it, not need it.

00:51:24.875 --> 00:51:29.125
But good God, if you need it, are
you, are you emotionally ready to,

00:51:31.330 --> 00:51:34.070
Yeah, there's a whole
before, during and after

00:51:34.250 --> 00:51:36.510
Travis Bader: process that people should
really make themselves familiar with.

00:51:36.510 --> 00:51:36.970
Exactly.

00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:39.570
What do they, what do they do before?

00:51:39.570 --> 00:51:40.630
So they don't have to use it.

00:51:41.090 --> 00:51:41.770
What do they do before?

00:51:41.770 --> 00:51:44.190
So if they have to use it, then
they're going to be proficient.

00:51:44.190 --> 00:51:45.400
What do they do during?

00:51:45.730 --> 00:51:46.560
What's that look like?

00:51:46.560 --> 00:51:48.720
And really the after is massive.

00:51:48.720 --> 00:51:50.174
That's where you lose your home.

00:51:50.174 --> 00:51:51.144
That's where you lose.

00:51:51.144 --> 00:51:52.840
How do you deal with people afterwards?

00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:54.052
How do you deal with

00:51:54.052 --> 00:51:54.295
Trevor Gibbs: yourself?

00:51:54.295 --> 00:51:54.537
Yeah.

00:51:54.537 --> 00:51:55.264
Just the emotion.

00:51:56.055 --> 00:52:00.005
emotional standpoint of like, if you're
not, if you kind of haven't had those

00:52:00.005 --> 00:52:02.925
conversations with yourself is Texas.

00:52:02.935 --> 00:52:05.765
God forbid, you got to pull
the trigger on someone.

00:52:05.775 --> 00:52:08.105
Like, are you ready for that?

00:52:08.925 --> 00:52:11.385
Travis Bader: Is it a shall issue
state or do you have to do, do you

00:52:11.385 --> 00:52:13.865
do courses, CCW courses to get it or?

00:52:14.395 --> 00:52:19.040
Trevor Gibbs: Yeah, I've got,
there, there's, uh, We've got open

00:52:19.040 --> 00:52:24.370
carry here, but there's, there's a
courses you take to get your, like

00:52:24.370 --> 00:52:26.680
your LTC, your license to carry.

00:52:26.830 --> 00:52:27.200
Okay.

00:52:27.390 --> 00:52:34.370
Um, and it's most people conceal carry,
but not most people, but the people that

00:52:34.380 --> 00:52:36.910
do carry, it's mostly concealed carry.

00:52:36.910 --> 00:52:43.225
But in theory you can't open carry and
Fonted if you want it, but yeah, some

00:52:43.225 --> 00:52:44.775
states people don't recommend that.

00:52:44.845 --> 00:52:45.125
Travis Bader: Yeah.

00:52:45.125 --> 00:52:46.955
Some of you got to open carry some.

00:52:46.955 --> 00:52:49.305
If you break concealment, I
think Washington is one of them.

00:52:49.305 --> 00:52:50.885
You break concealment in Washington.

00:52:51.235 --> 00:52:51.975
You're in trouble.

00:52:52.015 --> 00:52:52.135
Right.

00:52:52.675 --> 00:52:53.085
Yeah.

00:52:53.135 --> 00:52:55.465
You bend over to pick something
up at the grocery store.

00:52:56.235 --> 00:53:01.235
I did, uh, someone sees it or
yeah, CCW courses with Marty Hayes

00:53:01.245 --> 00:53:04.025
down to the firearms Academy of
Seattle many, many years ago.

00:53:04.025 --> 00:53:09.275
And, uh, Utah, Utah, there's a very
slick talking individual from Utah.

00:53:09.285 --> 00:53:12.615
I came up to Canada, went around
all the different ranges and, uh,

00:53:12.635 --> 00:53:15.845
was teaching them that CCW courses.

00:53:15.845 --> 00:53:22.295
Cause Utah, uh, would allow non
resident, um, Aliens, I guess, to

00:53:22.295 --> 00:53:26.125
get a CCW permit, if they'd done
the course and had reciprocity

00:53:26.125 --> 00:53:27.345
with a whole bunch of other States.

00:53:27.345 --> 00:53:32.415
So you can get your Utah permit and you
can go carry in Washington, technically,

00:53:32.555 --> 00:53:35.765
like there's a lot of technically, so
Canadians are doing this and they're

00:53:35.765 --> 00:53:39.735
like, okay, all you got to do, he says,
you'd need to have an invite from a

00:53:39.925 --> 00:53:45.205
range or be going hunting in order to be
able to bring your gun into the States.

00:53:45.205 --> 00:53:45.604
Okay.

00:53:46.125 --> 00:53:49.505
And so people would get the, I think
it was a 10, or maybe it was free.

00:53:49.505 --> 00:53:53.065
It was something really cheap,
Alaska hunting license in Canada.

00:53:53.445 --> 00:53:57.195
They go across the Washington border
and under their hunting license,

00:53:57.285 --> 00:54:00.575
I'm doing air brackets here,
and then they'd carry concealed.

00:54:00.645 --> 00:54:06.545
I don't know if anyone ever got nabbed
or had to talk about this one in court

00:54:06.545 --> 00:54:12.345
at any point, but the whole thing just
seemed technically legitimate, but I

00:54:12.345 --> 00:54:14.240
don't want to be, you know, Betting my

00:54:14.240 --> 00:54:17.080
Trevor Gibbs: house on technically
I'm allowed to do this.

00:54:17.100 --> 00:54:21.760
I think Trump came out and said he
wants to make like your concealed carry

00:54:22.210 --> 00:54:25.720
license recognizable amongst all States.

00:54:26.290 --> 00:54:29.770
So if you've got one in Texas, then
every other state has to recognize it.

00:54:30.580 --> 00:54:30.980
Nice.

00:54:32.240 --> 00:54:37.090
Um, yeah, no, I don't know the specific
details on it, but that was, that was

00:54:37.090 --> 00:54:39.330
kind of the tagline or the gist of it.

00:54:42.160 --> 00:54:42.860
Well,

00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:45.980
Travis Bader: I'm, uh, you're
not ready to, I'm not feeling

00:54:45.980 --> 00:54:48.200
the hog, hog vibe right here.

00:54:48.270 --> 00:54:48.740
Okay.

00:54:48.810 --> 00:54:51.020
Um, let's go exploring.

00:54:51.130 --> 00:54:51.560
Okay.

00:54:51.600 --> 00:54:54.450
Should we, is there anything we've got
to talk about before we wrap this up?

00:55:01.420 --> 00:55:02.120
Trevor Gibbs: I don't think so.

00:55:02.160 --> 00:55:06.140
Get outside, go do stuff you
like with people you like.

00:55:06.410 --> 00:55:06.850
I love it.

00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:08.270
Travis Bader: Okay.

00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:09.540
Just like what we're doing right now.

00:55:09.560 --> 00:55:10.150
Yes, sir.

00:55:11.010 --> 00:55:13.410
Okay, well, we'll let's wrap
that up there and we'll go find

00:55:13.410 --> 00:55:14.700
ourselves a hog at another location.

00:55:14.820 --> 00:55:15.210
All right, bud.