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Speaker 4: Hey everybody!

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Welcome to Tier 1 Interventions,
where we work on helping you

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gain the core in your classroom.

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I am Cheri Dotterer, your classroom coach.

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That's Cheri with a C
and Dot with a stutter.

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I'm here today with Jonily Zupancic,
your instructional coach on mathematics.

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And we are here to help learn, help
you learn how to deliver your math

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instruction in a very unique way.

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Today we are going to talk
about the pain problem.

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Jonily

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Speaker 6: get us started!

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Hey everybody.

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I'm Jay-Z.

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Jay-Z in the house, Jonily Zupancic and
Tier one Interventions is, as Sherry said,

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strengthening your core regular classroom.

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So this is for specifically the
classroom teacher, partnering with the

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intervention specialist, instructional
coach, curriculum leader, principal.

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Special Service Provider, Occupational
Therapist, Speech Therapist.

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How can kids get exactly what they need in
the Tier 1 Core Regular General Classroom?

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Too often we have kids leaving the
room to be pulled out for small

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group Tier 2 or Tier 3 intervention.

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This week we're going to
talk about part three of the

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background to the paint problem.

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Speaker 4: I was doing a webinar
for OTs earlier this month.

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And one of the OTs that was on that call

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said to me, I never even
considered that parentheses.

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Square root sign.

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The division sign would be something that
my kids needed me to address with them.

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So I say this for your awareness as well.

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Anybody who's out there listening to
the podcast that Not only do we need to

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help kids with letters and numbers, we
also need to help them understand the

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symbols that go with mathematics, the
symbols that go with social studies, the

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symbols that go with music and science,
because they don't make the connections.

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Speaker 6: When we talk about
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say this is an inborn, innate,
intuitive understanding of number.

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That cannot be explicitly taught.

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It must be experienced.

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And that's what all of
this module is all about.

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But Sherry makes a point.

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What does need to be explicitly taught are
the connections between those conceptual

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contextual experiences and the symbols
and notation that must be explicit.

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We must tell kids exactly what it means.

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over and over again and make those
connections to the conceptual.

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But kids aren't just gonna
figure out a parenthesis.

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They're not just gonna
figure out a square root.

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That must be explicitly
and deliberately taught.

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I say it, they hear it, and then they tell
me what I just said and they learn it.

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So very important to understand this as
we're moving through the science of math.

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That is up and coming.

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The differences between what
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mathematics and what cannot be
explicitly taught in mathematics.

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With the science of reading,
the collection of research on

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how students learn to read.

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Reading must be explicitly taught.

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That's what the collection
of science says for reading.

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My fear when we move into science
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to parallel that for everything.

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But what we're missing in schools
is a high level of number sense.

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And that can never be explicitly taught.

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It must only be experienced
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That experience is what is going to
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students to be able to individualize
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work independently on mathematics.

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We seem to not be able to ever
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any grade level where students can
independently work on mathematics.

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Because we're not focused on
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Using reference tasks and bringing
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number, kids already have been
explicitly taught the process.

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Now they can independently repeat
the process with other numbers.

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This is also how we individualize and
build independence in mathematics.

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What are some of these other
non academic functional pieces?

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That's the question that we're going
to answer here in this, in Part 2.

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Part 2, what are some of the non
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to be included in Tier 1 general?

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Core instruction so the kids don't
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to a separate small group, a separate
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regulate and manage their learning.

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And I say this has to do with rate
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Speed.

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How fast?

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That's innate and intuitive right there,
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to the gym and we get physical and we do
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running races and use a stopwatch,
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Per time, and that is the
pure definition of rate.

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I don't have to teach it
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We can just do these short distance
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to the finish line, and then the time
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And we're collecting data, we're
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movement, and then we're going to
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Now, not only can I improve my
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as shape, like with a quick dot.

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to start to give meaning to number.

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Now I can physically feel number.

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Because I can see who is faster, and
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be a smaller number as far as time.

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Because if I have the same
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the start and finish line.

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I have the same distance for every race.

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But the smaller the
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The faster they got there because
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definitions for rate is distance per time.

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So I can take my younger kids and
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now they can physically feel rate.

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This is what we're missing in mathematics.

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So that's a, that's an
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A non academic way to put
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But also be able to improve
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So let's talk about some other
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of interventions that can be done
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Speaker 4: Before you get
started, Sarah has a question.

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Speaker 6: Sarah, question.

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And I'm not going to get started.

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I was going to turn it
over to you, Sherry.

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Be ready with some other
functional interventions.

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Speaker 9: Sarah, go ahead.

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Okay.

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I want to do two things.

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And I don't want to sidetrack too much.

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I did want to say yesterday at our like
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thinking one of the moments I love.

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Yesterday, the most I was doing this
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We basically had two hula hoops that
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And the so I tried to
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I changed the questions depending
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there and what I felt like.

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But I, had these two students and we one
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estimate how many rolls of their wheel
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our finish line, which was marked off.

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This one brother and sister we got to
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for the the wheels and I think this this
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Because it's the inverse
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And I asked Or they came up with a
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rotations because of the length of it.

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And the smaller wheel
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And so it's just really exciting to have
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math We were just talking about what we
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So that's more an observation comment.

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My question though, was
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Speaker 6: point on that too.

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And that is, that's just like fraction,
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and even my older students, when
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paper folding with fraction, they
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minute, the bigger the whole number.

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When that number is the denominator of a
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the piece, and that's really difficult for
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it contextually and conceptually, and
one of our, I'm going to put this up

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here, another reference task is paper
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which is really connected to what
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of the wheel, because it's that sort of
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when I ask kids, which is bigger?

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1 8th or 1 4th?

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1 8th is always the answer.

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It's wrong, but it's very popular.

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Okay, so kids need to understand
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the denominator, the smaller the
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I can tell them 500.

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86 times.

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And we do this in schools.

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We tell them and tell them and
tell Guys, we've told you this!

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We've told Yeah, you know what?

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That's the problem!

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Ding!

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Insanity!

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Doing the same thing over and
expecting a different result!

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That's why we need to
unlearn, relearn, rethink.

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These contextual, conceptual, experiential
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that kids can figure it out on their own.

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Then we can explicitly teach the
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to the symbol and language.

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Sarah, question though.

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Speaker 9: Now you make me
think of our math night.

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I did a recipe scaling with kids
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So we were talking about, I
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I like to use as few tools.

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A few measuring tools as possible.

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So I don't have to clean as many things.

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So when we were looking at the
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measures were, and I said, what if
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Like, how is that going to change?

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You know what we do?

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And one of the students
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We're using a smaller Teaspoon.

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So we need more of them to and
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about that fraction, right?

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The like smaller, the denominator,
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need to like get to that.

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So think about it

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Speaker 6: when we skip count by eight.

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And we skip count by 12s, which
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See, that's right.

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But Sarah, let's talk
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You teach in a cyber school.

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So were you guys all together on site

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Speaker 9: yesterday?

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What's up?

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Yeah.

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Sorry.

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So yesterday was a we host in
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once a month or special occasions.

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Like our pie day is one of those regional
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Love it so much.

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Okay.

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What's your question?

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Sorry.

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My question is back to the symbols.

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Okay.

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Because this comes up consistently
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Multiplication can transition to dot and
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my question is, like, how early on is it
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symbols to elementary students like Okay,
so like from the get go, just interchange

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them and know it means the same thing.

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Okay, all right.

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Speaker 6: So what I'll sometimes do, this
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do is remember when we had the 3x5 on
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Sometimes I'll just do three by five,
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That's our by three by five, because if
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one, two, if I put the.here, I have to
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'cause this means three by five
rectangle, but this is a dot number.

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It's a decimal number.

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3. 50. So I'm introducing and exposing
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By second grade, kids should be
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rectangle notation, and this is what's
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multiplication chart the dimension chart.

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I can use the word bi, I can use a dot,
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has nothing to do with multiplication,
it's a notation of dimensions.

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Follow up question on that.

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Okay, other functional
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Sherry, talk to us a little bit about what
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it can be done in the regular classroom.

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Sure,

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Speaker 4: what I mentioned this
a little earlier, I lost my page.

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Where did it go?

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I always have to have
pictures for everybody, right?

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 4: So I was talking
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Interoception.

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Interoception is the response
of our nervous system where it's

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going to turn on and turn off.

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parts of the body based
on what our needs are.

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Our brain, our body, and our blood system,
and our nervous system, it wants to keep

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our heart and our brain functioning.

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So there are times in our system
where we don't send as much blood.

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To our digestive system or different
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there's an actual nervous system.

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It's called the autonomic nervous
system that turns on and turns off.

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It'll increase or decrease blood
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much activity we are needing.

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I think I am sharing.

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Oh no, I'm not sharing any screen yet.

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The other part of it is feelings.

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And that's what I want
to share the screen for.

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And that is That we have eight
senses or eight emotions, joy,

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trust, fear, surprise, sadness,
disgust, anger, and anticipation.

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We have about 4, 000 feelings,
but the difference is that emotion

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is that first seven seconds
before we even think about it.

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It's that gut response that our body.

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It does without us even thinking about it.

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It is part of the subconscious.

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It is part of our innate nature.

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We talk about numeracy cycle being innate.

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We've got eight core
emotions that are innate.

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So kids that are refusing mathematics
or handwriting or whatever task you're

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asking them to do, one of those eight,
most likely fear, is the Is overcoming

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their ability to engage in the task.

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So the emotion I said, there's
eight is a neurobiological response

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to that initial gut reaction
before we can even think about it.

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Once we can think about it.

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Once it brings up into our conscious,
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that's when it becomes a feeling.

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But there's also something else that
I haven't really ever talked about

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before, and that is called mood.

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And that is our disposition.

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That is the kind of that
thing that lasts forever.

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That's why people can get be in
a depressed mood or a sad mood.

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That's different than emotion.

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When it becomes this long
drawn out Disposition.

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It's the way we're feeling over time.

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That is our mood and we can change
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change that emotional response.

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That in itself is the best
way to reengage kids in their

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education is changing their mood.

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It's the most difficult part of.

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education.

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But that is the key.

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The key to making that
change is motivation.

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So we need to change how they're
motivated to engage in the mathematics.

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And what Jonily is teaching.

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About engaging kids in mathematics is
a way of circumventing those moods and

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remotivating kids into their education

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Speaker 6: and what Sherry
and I together teach on.

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And what she's talking about is
umbrella underneath this phrase,

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focus triggers, a focus trigger
is the exact action that I, as the

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facilitator and instruction can take.

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With a student to reengage and to motivate
I'm going to go back to my kindergarten

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audio yesterday in this kindergarten
class, and this was all non academic,

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and this might be very criticized by.

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Educators and administrators, but I'm
telling you, if you want kids to be

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motivated intrinsically, if you want
kids to be able to function at a very

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high level, if regardless of disability
or ability, if you want kids to be

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able to engage in the task at hand.

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and work independently.

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You'll hear many focus triggers
on this kindergarten audio.

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I'm going to tell you about
a few of them right now.

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So whenever I teach a class of kids,
no matter the age level, in the

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first three minutes, I can find out
how, who our special students are.

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Okay, it's not rocket science.

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Ended up finding out yesterday, and
you'll hear how I do this on the audio,

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because what I will do is, I will give
some prompts to gather student perspective

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to get a feel for the classroom.

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And I might say, so yesterday I
introduced myself, I say I'm Mrs.

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Zoo Panzick, Zoo, like where animals
are, Pan, like frying pan sick, like

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you're not feeling well, say that.

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Zupancic.

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Boom, there's a focus trigger right there.

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I give an association for my
name, then I make them say it.

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That's actually two focus triggers.

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Creating an association, my last name,
Zupancic, it's a little difficult.

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Make an association.

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Zoo, where animals are.

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Pan, frying pan.

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Sick, like you're not feeling well.

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Okay, so that's one focus trigger
is to make that association.

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And another focus trigger
is make them say it.

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Make them repeat it.

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Wrote.

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Okay, so you guys say it.

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Zoo, pan, sick.

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Okay, so focus triggers.

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There's two right there just very
subtle and you'll hear that in the

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audio and now that I pointed it out
to you, it'll be very intentional.

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You'll see that.

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And so as I'm having them do this, I
watch for the kids that are laying on

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their desks or being like, THE PIZZA!

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Okay?

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Hey, come on, I'm not exaggerating at all.

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Okay, so then I go on and I start telling
them that I used to have a classroom like

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this and I just like to go in different
math classrooms and do math with them.

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And then I went on.

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Another focus trigger
is to share the purpose.

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Okay, another focus trigger
is to share the purpose.

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I went on to say, How do
you guys exercise your body?

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Oh, we work out.

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You lift weights.

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You can run.

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That's all exercise for the body.

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But what do we do to exercise the mind?

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And they were like, We work out.

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We lift weights.

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We run.

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I'm like, No.

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I said, No.

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No, that's, we exercise the body.

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And then another little
lady, she raised her hand.

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I called on her cause she
plays school really well.

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And she's math.

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I'm like, that is exactly right.

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We do math to exercise
the mind, the brain.

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So that is a perspective in and of itself.

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So when I'm teaching kids, I
tell them, I don't teach math.

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I teach thinking.

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So when they ask gosh, when
are we ever going to use this?

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Probably never.

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You're never going to have to think.

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Okay, the thing is, thinking is
my content, like I teach thinking

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through the vehicle of mathematics.

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See that's an unlearn, re,
relearn, rethink right there.

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So if you are an educator, intervention
specialist, or instructional

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facilitator, of mathematics.

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You teach thinking.

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You just use mathematics
to teach that thinking.

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Couple other, and then then I
found out my good friend Jace.

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I thought it was Chase, and then I was
like ch, and they were like, no juh, Jace.

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I'm like, ooh, because my first name
is Jonaly juh, and then they were

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like, oh, but we have juh, James,
and Jesse, and juh, and it was

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just a whole thing, and it was fun.

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And But the kid beside Jace kept speaking
for him, so I picked up on that, and

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I said, Oh, are you his secretary?

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He's yes, and I'm like, okay, I
need to keep this kid near Jace.

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You pick up on these things, but what
I'm doing is I'm using focus triggers.

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I'm getting kids to hone in and
focus on one thing so that they can

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give me their perspective so that
I can teach to their perspective.

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Okay, making a lot of
associations and connections.

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So once I find out who Jace is, we
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near me and his secretary on carpet.

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So that was beautiful, okay.

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We go back to our seats, but
I make Jace stay with me.

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Because I knew this kid needed
to wonk the willies out.

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Okay, I knew explaining what we were going
to do with the 120 chart and starting

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that facilitation with the kids before
I mini lessened to that small group.

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I knew Jace needed to just be up
and moving and not at his table.

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He wasn't going to get
anything out of that anyway.

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So he was beside me and then
he started spinning and I'm

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like, Jace, you keep spinning.

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He would spin and then he'd jump and
then he'd spin and then he'd jump.

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And then.

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He was behind me and the whole class
was attending to me and ignoring Jace

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because they know Jace is special.

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So I move strategically to
another area of the room.

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Jace stayed over there doing his
jumps and spins and whatever.

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And then I finished explaining and I said
okay so now go ahead with your 120 chart.

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I'm going to come to your
group, so I'm going to help you.

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And I said, Jace, come on back.

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And I said, Jace, No, sorry.

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This was before they were
making squares with blocks.

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Blah.

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Jonily, you got the whole story messed up.

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Anyway, doesn't matter.

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The point is, while I was explaining
that we're going to make squares

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and what that means and equal sides
and da, I totally screwed this up.

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We should re record this, but we're
not going to because I'm out of time.

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Anyway.

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So then, he comes back, before I went
and observed other groups, when he

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came back I said, Hey, do you know
what we're going to do right now?

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And he's we're going to make squares.

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I didn't expect him to say that,
because he was off over in La Land.

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But do you see, he needed to
do all that, and it didn't

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bother any of the other kids.

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They didn't ask why he was doing that.

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They probably intuitively
know why he's doing that.

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He came back, and I wasn't expecting him
to say, we're making squares, but he did.

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And I'm like, do you
know what a square is?

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And he was getting a little weird and
I was like, you know what, here's your

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blocks, go ahead and make squares.

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And then he, for the next 10 minutes,
was so focused and engaged and in

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tune and working independently.

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See, focus, a focus trigger for
him, he's got to spin and jump.

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Then he can attune to the task.

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And he was listening
to every word you said.

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Why?

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Tune in next week where I
answer the question, why?