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What's up, Adam?

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What's up, Jack? Jack?

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Whatcha talking about? That's what's in your glass?

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Uh, no, this is Coke Zero, actually. Oh,

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Okay. Hey, Peter,

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I was thinking today in honor of the album

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that we're listening to Sinatra at the Sands, that instead

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of playing the intro like we normally do. Yeah.

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That we could, uh, sing a ding, ding it. I

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like that. Let's do

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it. You ready?

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Fly me to the moon

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and let me play among the stars.

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Let me see what life is like

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on Jupiter and Mars. How'd all

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These people get into my room?

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In other words, hold my hand.

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Sing it, Pete. In other words, that's

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A two chord, buddy. Oh

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My bad. Darling

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kiss me. Right on the soup coolers, you know.

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Fill my heart with song

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and let me sing forevermore.

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Say sing. You are all I long for all I worship

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and adore. You talking to me or Dino.

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Do I like Basie? In other words,

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please be true.

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Other words. I love you.

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You'll hear it now.

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I am

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Adam Maness. And

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I'm Peter Martin.

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Live from the Starlight Room in the beautiful Chase Park

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Plaza Hotel from St.

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Louis, Missouri. It's the You’ll Hear It podcast. Music

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explored. Pruning Away today.

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Music explored brought to you today by Open Studio.

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Go to openstudiojazz.com for, oh,

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your jazz lesson needs. Ringa.

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ding ding. It's a ringa ding, ding kind of day.

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Peter, we're talking about Sinatra, the chairman

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of the board, the CEO, Frank Sinatra.

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Sinatra at the Sands.

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This is a live album recorded in 1966

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with the incredible Count Basie Orchestra

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with Quincy Jones conducting a lot

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of heavy hitters on this album.

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Yes. And a lot of swinging bangers on this album. This

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Was a swing fest buddy.

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You know what I love about this album?

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And I love about having to pick,

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this is our first time we've talked

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about Frank Sinatra on the show.

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Yeah. Oh, is we, we, we've said his name though.

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We've mentioned it, but this is the first

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album we've listened to, which

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Right. It was also his first live

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Album. Did you know that? I

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did not know that.

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That's a, which is crazy. That's a fun fact.

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I've already felt like this podcast's been worth my time.

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Thank you, Peter. You're welcome.

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But, um, what I love about this tip, your waiter. Yeah.

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I'm here all week. Try the View. Um,

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what I love about this album in particular is that, I mean,

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all the Sinatra stuff is swinging and great.

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Yeah. And the ringa ding dinging and all that stuff,

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but there's something about him with the Basie band Yes.

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That brings out the both the best in both of them. Yes.

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You know what I'm saying? Like, it's, it's, it's as good

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as Frank is, is when he's in front

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of this absolute swing machine.

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Yes. And it is an absolute swing machine. Yeah.

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I mean, they sound so good and are so swinging

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and Count Basie, uh, at this point was in his sixties.

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Yep. Still playing Great. The band's still swinging great.

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Uh, young Quincy Jones. Yeah. Conducting his ass off.

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Yes. Uh, and arranging

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And arranging his ass off some of the great arrangements.

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Yeah. And then Frank, you could just tell is loving it.

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It's the, the vibe of the live album is loose,

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maybe a little too loose, which we're talking about,

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We talking about the album or the after party. What

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Are we talking about? Well, it got, it's

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pretty, it is pretty swinging,

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but, uh, man, I love this, uh, this album so much.

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It's so great. And I mean, you know, we're,

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we're gonna talk about it, I think folded into

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this story today.

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Like, is this peak Frank, like Frank Sinatra.

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What a amazing actor. Musician. Singer, of course. Comedian.

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He gets into some comedy on here.

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Um, heartthrob, all these different things. Icon American.

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Yeah. Uh, acting and singing icon.

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But this may be he was 50 years old. Yeah.

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And he jokes about that and talks about that.

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to say that he slid down.

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I mean, I actually got a chance to hear him live

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towards the end of his career.

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And he had the chops still, he still had had the voice.

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Yeah. He sounded good. Yeah.

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But in terms of like, you, you know, the peak of the Vegas,

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I mean, look, he, we always think about like,

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this is right in the middle of it.

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He, he'd been playing in Vegas for 15 years at this point.

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He helped build Vegas. He literally helped build Vegas.

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Vegas, and this is 66.

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So he's 15 years into it.

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He sees, and he'd been coming off a little bit of a lull,

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Of. And there would be a lull

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after this too. There would be.

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Right. And the fir, when he first came to Vegas,

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actually Vegas sort of revived his career,

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even though he was like 35 or so.

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through a divorce, was kind of in exile.

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So it's really interesting,

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the whole Vegas story that goes along with this.

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But you can't really pull

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that apart from what this event was.

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Sinatra had just on two records

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where he actually released like three records in 1966,

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or maybe even four, which is crazy by today's standards.

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But in the last four years

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before this 1962, he released Sinatra

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and Basie with arrangements.

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He had already worked with Quincy Jones

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before that, a young Quincy Jones.

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But that record, this was his first record

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where was all cues arrangements.

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But the Sinatra Basie record in 62 was Neal Hefti and the,

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and the Basie band, of course, sort

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of legendary arranger in some we consider the greatest

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arrangements for the Basie band.

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Um, and then he did

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Lot of loud, soft, loud, soft, loud,

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Soft. Yeah. Yeah.

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1964 without, was not with the Basie band.

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It might as well be spring. It had a couple hits on that.

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Mm-hmm. But it was a little bit of a lull for Sinatra.

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And it was a little bit of a weird period

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because 66, the Beatles.

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I mean, huge rap. I mean, the Beatles were already out

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and Pet Sounds and the Beach Boys.

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So like pop music was going in a different direction.

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And I think it's easy for us

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to think about like, jazz music.

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And this is certainly a jazz big band, sort

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of typical, not typical.

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I mean, it's extraordinary. It is.

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that like, it's very, very much a jazz record that we forget

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that it was just a few years

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before this that this kind of record would be a major hit.

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And in fact, this record did chart up

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to number nine on Billboard.

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Awesome. So it wasn't like it wasn't still in there,

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but I think for Frank Sinatra

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and the popularity that he'd enjoyed, um,

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before this, it was a little bit of a downslide,

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but not to the audience that was there for the whatever,

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two weeks that he played two sets a night,

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uh, with this extraordinary

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Band. Let's get into

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it, man. Let's get into the swing. Okay.

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Well, the great thing about this record too,

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and if you haven't heard this, you're really in for a treat.

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Um, is that like the record tells a story,

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it was recorded over how many days was this something like,

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yeah, maybe it was just a week.

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different times, but it's put together in a way,

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like it's a set, like you were sitting there, the double lp,

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and you'll be able to hear a lot

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of the story from the very beginning.

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Well, and just the Copa room. Sorry.

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400 seats in the Copa room. Right, right.

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So 400 seat theater, $25 tickets,

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which would've been pretty expensive.

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Yeah. For 1966.

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Yeah. This was a, a pricey thing.

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And that was just the loss

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leader to get you into the casino.

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The whole, the whole Vegas machine. That's right.

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And look, I don't wanna get myself in trouble.

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I don't know what the statute of limitation on getting, um,

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taken down by the, I think wasn't Vegas pretty

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mobbed up still at this point?

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It certainly was before this had it gone corporate yet.

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Sorry. You nervous?

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You look nervous. Well, well, we don't,

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not if Frank Sinatra would've had anything to do with

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That. This has put a lot allegedly

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in

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front of what we're saying today,

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Pete. People are saying

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that it was not.

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People are saying that it was mobbed up.

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Um, so anyway, let's check.

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I saw The Godfather too. I know.

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Let's check this out. Come fly with me. Of course.

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But this intro so great. Sonny Payne at the drums,

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The Sands is proud to present a wonderful new show. Norm

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Keenan at the bass, his music.

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Can we get this guy to I know our show, please.

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A music of Count Basie and his great band.

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Come on. Woo.

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Ah.

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And the man, See where go do that.

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The timing of this.

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Here's Basie

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Basie gonna Basie. Great

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How'd all these people get

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in my room. Oh, come

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On.

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How did all these people get into my town?

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Come fly with me. We'll fly. We'll fly away.

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If you can use the flu doubling. Some exotic booze.

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There's a bar and Far Bombay. Come on, fly with me.

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We'll fly. We'll fly away.

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Come On, Quincy, come

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Fly with me.

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We'll float down to Peru,

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Very few. Anderson Trump,

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One man is flu for you.

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Come on, fly with me. We'll float down the way

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Sinatra lays in those phrases.

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Once I get you up there. Where the air,

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I feel like I'm on TWA airline, Pan Am Pan Am on a clip

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and on an air clipper. Steven

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Spielberg used this song, I don't think this recording,

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but this song in, uh, in the Catch Me.

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If You Can scene where Leo is impersonating

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a Pan Am pilot surrounded by

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Pan Am Stewardesses as they were called.

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They were called

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Mean. Check out this writing.

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Just say those words.

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Beat those birds down to

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Acapulco Bay. Perfect for a flying

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honeymoon. Are they say,

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Could you imagine? This is the

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first song in the set.

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We Fly. I'm gonna gamble.

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You're like, honey, take my money, honey.

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I told you to go to Vegas,

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Harry Sweet Addison. Come

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On Back to the bridge.

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Come on. Keep it simple. You could almost smell

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the cigarettes in cologne

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in this room, couldn't you?

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It smells like bourbon and bad, like Canadian Club.

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And Ave I'll be holding

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you so awfully near.

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You might even hear a gang of Angels chair, just

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because we're together weather wise, wise. It's such a,

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I made a few notes, but all the right ones

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count bass, come on.

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You just say that word.

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I'll beat your bird to a Kago Bay

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is perfect for a fly off.

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Simmering. Save. Come on, fly with me. We'll fly. We'll fly

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Pack Up. Let's fly

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away.

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Amazing. Yeah. So, I mean, that's a good start, right?

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Yeah. That would be a fun start to the gig. Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah. How many people fell off the wagon?

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They came into Vegas. They

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were like, I'm not gonna get a drink.

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By the end of that tune. They're like, come on,

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bring the Canadian Club. Let's do it. Yeah.

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Amazing. Yeah. Great start.

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Um, so yeah,

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and that's sort of like, you know, I mean,

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Frank Sinatra Come Fly with Me.

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Like, that's such a classic, um, frank song.

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But like, I think what, what you're hearing in that, um,

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version, I was just looking to Oh yeah, of course.

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Jimmy Van Heusen and Sammy Cahn Classic from 1954.

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Um, what's fun about that song?

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It was actually written in three four,

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and I believe that Sinatra's the first one to do it in four.

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That's how he kind of made it his own.

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I could be wrong on that, but I know Sinatra asked Quincy

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Jones to put that arrangement into four.

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And I think the way that Quincy did that, I mean, look,

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Quincy is like, he's sort of omnipresent from this point.

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And really before this, when he first worked with Sinatra,

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and even, even before that when he was playing trumpet with,

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with Lionel Hampton and had a storied career.

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But I mean, this was the point

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where he became the superstar, kind of, um, like

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taste maker, um, conductor,

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obviously actually conducting the band,

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but conducting the whole vibe, being able

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to realize Frank's vision in a way that I think, I mean,

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like, to me, of all this,

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the different recordings I've heard of Frank Sinatra,

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it doesn't get any, he's got other great recordings

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and studio stuff that's amazing.

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But in terms of like, him being able to connect with Jazz

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and with the big band and Count Basie,

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the whole band is a huge part of that.

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But I think that that, um, Quincy Jones had

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that unique ability to really pull, like,

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to put, to set the table. Right.

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I'm trying to think of how that would sound. Are

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You still thinking about that? Three, four. Yeah.

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Come down, come fly

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with me. I don't

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Yeah. I was thinking, come fly

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With me.

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That kind of thing. That's good, right? That as good.

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That was good. Yeah. Well, that, that definitely was.

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That's good. But like Frank trying to be like, I,

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I mean I'm projecting now,

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but for Frank Sinatra to be like,

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I think I want it to be in four.

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But then Quincy to put it into that,

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um, that kind of a vibe.

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And then Sinatra's Precision really being matched

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by the band's precision.

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Um, you know, Sonny Payne, I mean, just driving the band,

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like all the right things happening, but also as loose

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and confident as they are.

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There's also like a precision

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and a humility wrapped up in the way that they do this.

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That probably for a lot of the audience from Peoria

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or Chesterfield or whatever, it might've kind

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of flown a little bit over their head. No

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Chesterfield in 66.

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Well, whatever it was called Gumbo Flats back then. Gumbo

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Flats, you know, but you know what I'm saying?

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Like this was above, in terms of musicality and artistry.

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This flew right above. A lot of folks come fly with me.

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He was flying above the radar on this one for

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Sure. Flying high.

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What's up next?

348
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How about a little bit? We're gonna, okay.

349
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Great thing about this album. All the tracks.

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Maximum 40 minutes, man. They, it's just like

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44 minutes. Four

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Minutes. Sorry,

353
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What did I say? 40 minutes.

354
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Oh, 40

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Minutes. What's, that's true too.

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The maximum it goes.

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That would be an unparalleled artistic achievement if all

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of these standards were 40 minutes long. Four

359
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Minutes. Four minutes. Yeah.

360
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Um, but there's a lot of tracks.

361
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This is a double on. We're gonna skip to track number three.

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I've got you under my,

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I have got you under my skin.

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Cole Porter Classic. Of course.

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I have got you. Deep in the heart

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of me, so deep in my heart that

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that's you really a part.

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Me. I've got you

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under my skin.

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I have tried so not to in,

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and I said to myself, this is what

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A great song. Cole Porter

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could write a song

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Port. He could write it.

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Indiana's finest. Who should,

376
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Why should I, if this is a Quincy arrangement

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Baby?

378
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No. So, well that I've got

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to you, man.

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It's a super mature kind

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of like restrained arrangement. Well, it's,

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He's definitely nodding towards the Nelson or

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Riddles, You know, famous. It might have

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Been an orchestrated version of it, I'm not sure.

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But

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Spite of Comes the Night, every

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repeats in my ear.

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But, you know, you fool, you never can win.

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Use your mentality. Wake up to reality.

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And each time I do, just the thought of you makes me stop

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before I begin

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because I've got you under my skin.

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Ha.

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Run for cover running high.

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Ask your boy, ask your

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boy Percolate.

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Woo Al gray.

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Incredible solo.

399
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Yeah. So look, great stuff on here,

400
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Man. You know what makes, I

401
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love all these arrangements so much.

402
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And yeah, there's definitely, I think

403
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that is a, a, a different arrangement.

404
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Definitely nodding to the Nelson

405
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Real, but I could be wrong about that.

406
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Um, but what I would like our listeners to listen for,

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if you're like wanting

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to appreciate the music a little more,

409
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and specifically like what does an arranger do,

410
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you know Quincy Jones in this case.

411
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So he is taking the song in this case by Cole Porter,

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which is just the melody and some chord changes.

413
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Probably a simple chord Yeah. Progression from the original

414
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version, the sheet music or, or

415
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however, whatever reference Quincy would use for this.

416
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And then deciding what all

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of these instruments in the big band mm-hmm.

418
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Count bass orchestra are gonna do. Yeah.

419
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Now you can hear very clearly sort of Mozart's rule

420
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of three, you know about Mozart's rule of three, of course.

421
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So I love it. Do you wanna describe it in detail? No,

422
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I don't. I I just meant that

423
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as an affirmation.

424
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No. So like, uh,

425
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it's basically like when you're arranging something like

426
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this, there's no more than three melodies happening at once.

427
00:18:21,885 --> 00:18:24,125
Right. Three main sections happening at once.

428
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And you can hear it sometimes there's four in these.

429
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There's not, but there's never,

430
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like the saxophones are doing one thing.

431
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The trombones are doing one thing.

432
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The trumpets are doing one thing, Frank's singing over it,

433
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and the piano player's doing another thing.

434
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Like there's the rhythm section keeping some time.

435
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And when Frank is singing a melody,

436
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there's usually only one other thing happening in the

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band behind him.

438
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And sometimes those are combinations of sections,

439
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like the saxes and the trombones or the, the, the trumpets

440
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and the, and the saxes.

441
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Sometimes it's one horn.

442
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Um, sometimes it's a unison line that's happening.

443
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And then like with the saxophones

444
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and the trombones are playing, you know,

445
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punchy chords underneath.

446
00:19:00,885 --> 00:19:02,365
Yeah. Maybe for just a little more support.

447
00:19:03,305 --> 00:19:06,285
But there's, there's really a great

448
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symmetry to what Quincy is.

449
00:19:07,945 --> 00:19:09,445
The balance to what he's writing in

450
00:19:09,445 --> 00:19:10,485
these arrangements is really great.

451
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Even when they do the famous

452
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shout course when things are answering.

453
00:19:17,005 --> 00:19:20,925
Yeah. It's never getting cluttered. So cluttered. Exactly.

454
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Which is so easy to do if you're trying to write all

455
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of these individual sections.

456
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And, and of course you have, you know, all these players.

457
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Um, really, really incredible tight writing on this.

458
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Yeah. Uh, it's such a great way to describe it.

459
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And I think also that ability, like in the solely section

460
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and as it's building up and on a lot of the intros, like

461
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Quincy's writing for Sonny Payne at the drums, like giving

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that space because he can drive so much of that.

463
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Like that's one of those three parts. Oh. Potentially.

464
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You know, it's, it's like leaving

465
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that white space in there to do that.

466
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And the little places for Count Basie. Totally.

467
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Like, I always like, don't ever end underestimate

468
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his prowess at the piano.

469
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It's very easy for us to be like, well, he didn't play.

470
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I mean, the same thing you could say about Duke Ellington.

471
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Like I played a lot of those arrangements with the big band

472
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where it's like tacit, tacit, tacit.

473
00:20:08,485 --> 00:20:09,685
Yeah. And then just a couple of notes

474
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and you're like, oh, this is easy, but

475
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It's so effective. So again,

476
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if you think about that, like rule of three,

477
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if you think about the, the melody lines

478
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that you're arranging Yeah.

479
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And then the, or the, the instrumentation

480
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that you choose is the orchestration.

481
00:20:21,095 --> 00:20:22,565
Right. And that's where it's like,

482
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I'm not thinking about like, what are the trumpets gonna do?

483
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Yeah. I'm thinking about Frank is singing this Yeah.

484
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And the rhythm section is doing this

485
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and I want one other thing happening.

486
00:20:29,745 --> 00:20:31,645
Yep. That could be anywhere. Right.

487
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And that the color you choose is part of the orchestration

488
00:20:36,105 --> 00:20:38,085
of that and thinking about the line rather

489
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than the instrument Yeah.

490
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Can be really freeing.

491
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'cause then you can use things like the piano

492
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as just another extension of that line

493
00:20:45,475 --> 00:20:47,380
that totally changes the character of it.

494
00:20:47,380 --> 00:20:49,200
Right. Changes the vibe of the song completely.

495
00:20:49,725 --> 00:20:50,805
Absolutely. And I mean, you know,

496
00:20:50,805 --> 00:20:54,165
count Bei was a master at being just one part

497
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of the whole orchestration.

498
00:20:55,165 --> 00:20:57,205
Totally. We're used to as pianists being

499
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able to be the whole orchestra.

500
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And some pianists play within a big band like that.

501
00:21:00,245 --> 00:21:03,565
But the great ones, I count Bey, duke Ellington

502
00:21:03,565 --> 00:21:06,365
and many other, like knew that they're just one part of it.

503
00:21:06,445 --> 00:21:07,685
I mean, it's also maybe easier

504
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'cause it's their name's on the band.

505
00:21:08,885 --> 00:21:10,285
Right. For sure. They can do whatever they want.

506
00:21:10,585 --> 00:21:12,565
But it's like, you don't have to play all the orchestration

507
00:21:12,565 --> 00:21:13,565
along with the orchestra.

508
00:21:13,685 --> 00:21:15,365
'cause you've got an orchestra there. Right. Yeah.

509
00:21:15,515 --> 00:21:17,885
It's like, but, but what's some fun, cool stuff

510
00:21:17,885 --> 00:21:18,965
that you can do at the right time?

511
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And Quincy knew how to highlight that.

512
00:21:20,905 --> 00:21:23,245
And of course, Basie, it was just like second nature.

513
00:21:23,345 --> 00:21:24,525
He could hear that in. Yeah.

514
00:21:24,525 --> 00:21:26,085
We got a lot of jazz pianists that listen to this podcast.

515
00:21:26,225 --> 00:21:27,325
If you're playing a big band gig,

516
00:21:27,325 --> 00:21:28,845
if you're playing an orchestra gig, don't play.

517
00:21:28,875 --> 00:21:30,165
Yeah. TAs it, learn those

518
00:21:30,175 --> 00:21:32,725
Until, until it's like important that you play.

519
00:21:32,795 --> 00:21:33,725
Yeah. And then it's gonna be even

520
00:21:33,725 --> 00:21:34,685
more impactful. Absolutely.

521
00:21:34,685 --> 00:21:36,325
Yeah. Um, now having said that,

522
00:21:36,325 --> 00:21:38,205
we're gonna get into a couple of tracks here.

523
00:21:38,655 --> 00:21:41,405
Where, which is more sort of along Sinatra,

524
00:21:41,405 --> 00:21:44,805
like real classic Croner, uh, cronyism.

525
00:21:45,085 --> 00:21:46,325
I don't know, is that a word? I don't know.

526
00:21:46,385 --> 00:21:49,365
That's derogatory. No, it's not crooner.

527
00:21:49,365 --> 00:21:50,365
Like what he was known for.

528
00:21:50,365 --> 00:21:52,085
Beautiful ballads, stretching things out,

529
00:21:52,085 --> 00:21:53,405
really leaning into the lyrics.

530
00:21:53,825 --> 00:21:56,605
Um, which I think he balances out the set, especially

531
00:21:56,605 --> 00:21:58,845
with these short tracks, tight arrangements.

532
00:21:58,875 --> 00:22:01,805
Yeah. As he goes through this sort of Vegas, like look,

533
00:22:01,805 --> 00:22:02,925
when you're going through all these tunes,

534
00:22:02,925 --> 00:22:06,365
it can become like a Vegas review, R-E-V-U-E kind

535
00:22:06,365 --> 00:22:08,885
of situation where it's like, oh, we're just gonna slam

536
00:22:08,885 --> 00:22:10,725
through the hits and it's gonna be like a slide.

537
00:22:10,755 --> 00:22:12,525
It's gonna be like a buffet where you're like,

538
00:22:12,915 --> 00:22:14,925
it's a quantity play as opposed to a quality play.

539
00:22:14,925 --> 00:22:16,405
But I think this is a big buffet,

540
00:22:16,505 --> 00:22:19,445
and they are running through these things as getting ready

541
00:22:19,445 --> 00:22:22,045
for the next dinner, the dinner set or whatever.

542
00:22:22,345 --> 00:22:23,925
But the artistry with which they do it,

543
00:22:23,925 --> 00:22:26,485
and the way he offsets it with these beautiful ballads

544
00:22:26,785 --> 00:22:28,925
and slower temple things, we're gonna listen next

545
00:22:28,925 --> 00:22:30,285
to the shadow of the, of your smile.

546
00:22:30,595 --> 00:22:31,645
This is very interesting.

547
00:22:31,645 --> 00:22:33,005
This is the fourth track on there, of course,

548
00:22:33,005 --> 00:22:34,045
written by Johnny Mandel.

549
00:22:34,045 --> 00:22:36,485
This was a pretty new song. A very new song was,

550
00:22:36,485 --> 00:22:37,485
But he references that.

551
00:22:37,615 --> 00:22:38,965
Right. Which is funny to hear him say,

552
00:22:38,975 --> 00:22:40,045
check out this new number.

553
00:22:40,305 --> 00:22:41,365
That's right. Beautiful new

554
00:22:41,365 --> 00:22:42,365
Song. I know. I was like, it was in

555
00:22:42,365 --> 00:22:43,325
the movie The Sandpiper,

556
00:22:43,325 --> 00:22:44,645
but it was instrumental version.

557
00:22:44,705 --> 00:22:48,365
And apparently, um, well, Paul Webster had written lyrics

558
00:22:48,365 --> 00:22:50,525
for it and Sinatra on one of the flights back

559
00:22:50,525 --> 00:22:53,845
and forth to Vegas, told Quincy Jones, he's like, man,

560
00:22:53,845 --> 00:22:55,165
I think we should do shout of Your Smile.

561
00:22:55,165 --> 00:22:57,845
And Quincy was kinda like, um, for, for this gig,

562
00:22:57,845 --> 00:22:59,045
do you think you can learn the lyrics?

563
00:22:59,545 --> 00:23:01,965
And Quin, uh, Sinatra's like, yes, I can.

564
00:23:02,585 --> 00:23:04,365
And he said he pulled out a notebook

565
00:23:04,365 --> 00:23:05,965
and started writing the lyrics out.

566
00:23:05,965 --> 00:23:08,285
That's the way he would learn lyrics would write them down

567
00:23:08,345 --> 00:23:09,405
and then write them again.

568
00:23:09,585 --> 00:23:11,405
And he said he was like, and uh,

569
00:23:11,525 --> 00:23:12,845
Quincy Jones said he fell asleep on the flight.

570
00:23:12,845 --> 00:23:14,285
He wakes up, they're there, and he looks over

571
00:23:14,285 --> 00:23:15,765
and it's like 20 pages of

572
00:23:16,385 --> 00:23:17,525
the lyrics written out over

573
00:23:17,525 --> 00:23:18,725
and over again. That's how he learned it.

574
00:23:19,145 --> 00:23:21,325
That's a pro tip right there. Trying to learn lyrics.

575
00:23:21,325 --> 00:23:22,965
That's right. I should have done that in our intro.

576
00:23:24,335 --> 00:23:27,005
Ringa ding ringa ding ding. Oh yeah.

577
00:23:27,005 --> 00:23:28,525
He's gonna talk about it. It's a very pretty song,

578
00:23:29,345 --> 00:23:30,345
By the way. A new song as

579
00:23:30,345 --> 00:23:31,005
the Esta

580
00:23:31,075 --> 00:23:32,125
Yeah. Esta bill. Uh,

581
00:23:32,195 --> 00:23:33,195
Star the show. The

582
00:23:33,195 --> 00:23:35,125
Shadow Bill Evans of yours.

583
00:23:35,185 --> 00:23:37,525
No. Bill Miller. Bill Miller. Yeah. Same thing.

584
00:23:37,715 --> 00:23:39,285
Pianist for Frank Sinatra. Legend.

585
00:23:41,615 --> 00:23:42,845
Shout out Freddie Green. This

586
00:23:42,845 --> 00:23:43,925
is a new arrangement for Yeah.

587
00:23:43,925 --> 00:23:44,845
Freddie Green. You know how hard

588
00:23:44,845 --> 00:23:45,760
that is? That quarter note.

589
00:23:45,805 --> 00:23:48,845
I know. That's not easy, man.

590
00:23:49,555 --> 00:23:51,405
Will Colorado, that was His, that was his

591
00:23:51,405 --> 00:23:53,405
Jam With this tempo.

592
00:23:53,435 --> 00:23:54,925
Yeah. And

593
00:23:55,935 --> 00:23:59,245
light the dawn.

594
00:24:02,355 --> 00:24:06,845
Nice. Right there. Look into my

595
00:24:07,395 --> 00:24:11,285
eyes, my love.

596
00:24:12,225 --> 00:24:16,245
So the Esta is that Bell instrument famous from Dance

597
00:24:16,245 --> 00:24:18,165
of the Sugar Plum Fairy, Harry Potter.

598
00:24:18,465 --> 00:24:21,445
Yep. And which didn't exist yet, by the way. Oh,

599
00:24:21,865 --> 00:24:22,925
Lovely thing.

600
00:24:23,805 --> 00:24:26,405
Che Baker Monk.

601
00:24:26,915 --> 00:24:27,205
Yeah.

602
00:24:35,945 --> 00:24:38,685
Man, the guitar is doing so much of a

603
00:24:38,685 --> 00:24:41,445
Heavy lift With the feel.

604
00:24:41,475 --> 00:24:42,885
Yeah. It was far

605
00:24:45,345 --> 00:24:46,405
To Woo. Sweet.

606
00:24:46,605 --> 00:24:51,575
Edison Harmon Mute. Is that cup mutes on the trumpets?

607
00:24:51,695 --> 00:24:53,815
I don't know. That's, I don't know. I just like

608
00:24:53,815 --> 00:24:54,615
It. Haven't burned before.

609
00:24:54,745 --> 00:24:57,895
Bring it. Ding ding. So,

610
00:24:59,075 --> 00:25:00,375
Man, his voice is so rich.

611
00:25:01,075 --> 00:25:04,455
So did all, But this is like,

612
00:25:08,965 --> 00:25:12,255
This is what his voice was really made for.

613
00:25:12,255 --> 00:25:14,415
Right. Which makes the swing

614
00:25:14,415 --> 00:25:16,335
and stuff even more impressive. You know, and

615
00:25:16,505 --> 00:25:19,135
Every little lovely Thing.

616
00:25:19,165 --> 00:25:21,135
Like he's just sinat it now. Right. Yeah.

617
00:25:23,825 --> 00:25:26,555
I'll be remembering. Oh,

618
00:25:27,495 --> 00:25:30,595
Oh, the shadow Bow on the base

619
00:25:32,125 --> 00:25:33,125
Smile.

620
00:25:35,565 --> 00:25:39,315
Sweet. Your

621
00:25:39,335 --> 00:25:40,715
lovely smile.

622
00:25:45,185 --> 00:25:47,195
Yeah, you're right. It's really what he started out,

623
00:25:47,585 --> 00:25:48,715
what he got famous for.

624
00:25:49,055 --> 00:25:52,035
That's a good Right. Those ballads. The crooning. Yeah.

625
00:25:52,145 --> 00:25:54,315
He's so good at it. He's so good at it.

626
00:25:54,355 --> 00:25:55,915
I encourage everybody to, to go listen

627
00:25:55,915 --> 00:25:57,715
to some really early Frank Sinatra.

628
00:25:57,715 --> 00:25:59,835
There's some stuff that you can find, uh,

629
00:25:59,835 --> 00:26:01,075
when he was a kid, basically.

630
00:26:01,075 --> 00:26:04,915
Yeah. He's a teenager. Uh, in, was it Hoboken in Hoboken?

631
00:26:04,935 --> 00:26:08,155
No, New York City with Tommy Dorsey. Um, oh yeah.

632
00:26:08,335 --> 00:26:10,515
And, but even on his own, like, like his version

633
00:26:10,735 --> 00:26:11,915
of I fall in love too easily

634
00:26:12,335 --> 00:26:13,595
and he's like in his early twenties.

635
00:26:14,135 --> 00:26:17,395
So gorgeous. Yeah. And his, his his take on that.

636
00:26:17,615 --> 00:26:18,875
But I, I just wanted to highlight again,

637
00:26:18,875 --> 00:26:19,915
guitarist Freddie Green.

638
00:26:19,935 --> 00:26:23,395
Yes. For those of you who don't know fa very famous part

639
00:26:23,395 --> 00:26:25,315
of this bassy orchestra. In fact, for

640
00:26:25,315 --> 00:26:26,875
Many years before This, many years

641
00:26:26,875 --> 00:26:29,755
before this famous for, he never soloed,

642
00:26:30,105 --> 00:26:31,755
ever that I know of.

643
00:26:32,295 --> 00:26:35,275
And all he did would chunk quarter notes. Yeah.

644
00:26:35,275 --> 00:26:37,275
So if the tempo is 1, 2, 3, 4,

645
00:26:37,275 --> 00:26:41,915
he says Yeah.

646
00:26:41,975 --> 00:26:45,205
And even on a tune like this, which is like, um,

647
00:26:46,435 --> 00:26:47,435
Wait, hold on. Lemme see if

648
00:26:47,435 --> 00:26:49,085
I can, I'm gonna try to find

649
00:26:49,085 --> 00:26:51,165
Some classic Freddie Green chunking here. Yeah.

650
00:26:51,565 --> 00:26:52,845
I don't know if this is gonna work to ice.

651
00:27:00,545 --> 00:27:01,645
No, that sounds like bass, doesn't

652
00:27:01,725 --> 00:27:02,725
It? He's trying to, he's trying

653
00:27:02,725 --> 00:27:05,805
to find the chunk. There it is.

654
00:27:08,785 --> 00:27:10,605
So you can hear very muffled that you can hear that

655
00:27:10,915 --> 00:27:12,525
that chunk of the quarter note happening.

656
00:27:12,525 --> 00:27:13,605
That's all he did in the band. Right.

657
00:27:13,605 --> 00:27:15,125
That was his ma his prime. It's not all he did,

658
00:27:15,125 --> 00:27:19,525
but this his primary function and he was so good at it.

659
00:27:19,525 --> 00:27:21,965
Yeah. That shadow of, of your smile performance.

660
00:27:24,385 --> 00:27:29,325
It sounds better than this. What a feel. Yeah.

661
00:27:29,325 --> 00:27:30,685
But that's why all this other stuff is

662
00:27:30,685 --> 00:27:31,685
Happening. He's basically part,

663
00:27:31,685 --> 00:27:35,845
he's like so

664
00:27:35,875 --> 00:27:38,605
Awfully near So connected to the drums in the bass.

665
00:27:38,605 --> 00:27:39,645
Yeah. Like as a unit,

666
00:27:39,645 --> 00:27:43,005
they're just creating this like Mm mm mm Pulse this cord

667
00:27:43,005 --> 00:27:46,005
note pulse that is infectious. Yeah.

668
00:27:46,105 --> 00:27:47,965
And I mean to the point that this is called,

669
00:27:47,965 --> 00:27:49,085
if you make a big man chart

670
00:27:49,545 --> 00:27:51,165
and you just put some chords for the guitar,

671
00:27:51,165 --> 00:27:52,285
and then you say, Freddie, Freddie Green,

672
00:27:52,285 --> 00:27:54,325
Fred Green it, Freddie Green did, that's,

673
00:27:54,325 --> 00:27:56,045
they every everybody knows, knows to do it. That's

674
00:27:56,045 --> 00:27:57,045
Right. He's like the Kleenex

675
00:27:57,045 --> 00:27:58,645
of tissue paper. Right.

676
00:27:58,755 --> 00:28:00,245
Yeah. But what I was saying with the shadow

677
00:28:00,245 --> 00:28:01,245
of your smile is like,

678
00:28:01,265 --> 00:28:02,805
that's one of the hardest versions of that.

679
00:28:02,805 --> 00:28:04,085
And you're like, I, it's 'cause of the tempo.

680
00:28:04,085 --> 00:28:05,085
Because of the tempo. But you're like,

681
00:28:05,085 --> 00:28:06,165
well, Adam, the tempo's slow.

682
00:28:06,265 --> 00:28:07,325
But that's why it's so hard.

683
00:28:07,385 --> 00:28:09,205
The slower it is, the harder, the slower it is,

684
00:28:09,205 --> 00:28:10,765
the harder it is to be steady,

685
00:28:10,825 --> 00:28:12,085
to be swinging, to be in the pocket.

686
00:28:12,145 --> 00:28:14,645
And he never fails. The guy doesn't miss. Yeah. Yeah.

687
00:28:14,645 --> 00:28:16,045
It's so good. Um,

688
00:28:16,465 --> 00:28:19,845
and so look what I was saying about like Frank Sinatra on

689
00:28:19,975 --> 00:28:21,765
these ballads on shadow, you smile.

690
00:28:21,925 --> 00:28:23,845
I didn't mean, this is not no shade at all.

691
00:28:23,845 --> 00:28:26,005
When I say this is what his voice was made to do.

692
00:28:26,125 --> 00:28:28,725
I just mean like, that's not to denigrate the artistry

693
00:28:28,725 --> 00:28:29,845
and the control Yeah.

694
00:28:29,915 --> 00:28:32,125
That he takes his beautiful instrument and puts on it.

695
00:28:32,275 --> 00:28:36,685
It's just, to me it's like that makes the, when he's going

696
00:28:37,415 --> 00:28:40,165
super hard swing, like he can do that

697
00:28:40,225 --> 00:28:41,525
and he executes all great,

698
00:28:41,545 --> 00:28:43,045
but it's even more, it's kind

699
00:28:43,045 --> 00:28:45,085
of like when a great pitcher gets up and does a home run.

700
00:28:45,085 --> 00:28:46,765
Yeah. You're like, damn, they can do that.

701
00:28:46,765 --> 00:28:48,005
But you're not necessarily expecting it.

702
00:28:48,025 --> 00:28:50,285
You could say he's the shhe Tani of he's the show

703
00:28:50,625 --> 00:28:51,625
Of Vocal. No, I mean,

704
00:28:51,625 --> 00:28:53,685
we talked about, about this last, uh,

705
00:28:53,685 --> 00:28:55,165
in the last couple weeks with Lauren Hill,

706
00:28:55,185 --> 00:28:57,205
how it was like the total package at the time

707
00:28:57,205 --> 00:28:59,085
that she released that Miseducation album.

708
00:28:59,135 --> 00:29:00,805
Right. And like, but Frank Sinatra,

709
00:29:00,805 --> 00:29:03,325
his whole career is this total package, first of all,

710
00:29:03,675 --> 00:29:07,085
like the ballads thing is his original wheelhouse.

711
00:29:07,085 --> 00:29:10,565
Right? Yeah. And for a lot of vocalists or

712
00:29:10,945 --> 00:29:12,685
or music stars, that would be enough.

713
00:29:12,685 --> 00:29:13,685
Right. That would be all they would need.

714
00:29:13,685 --> 00:29:15,005
And, and in fact, people have built whole

715
00:29:15,005 --> 00:29:16,085
careers off of just that.

716
00:29:16,115 --> 00:29:17,685
Yeah. Crooning. Uh,

717
00:29:17,705 --> 00:29:21,765
but then he ends up being like an incredibly swinging Yeah.

718
00:29:22,045 --> 00:29:24,845
Vocalist who can take like, I mean, we, you know, the,

719
00:29:24,845 --> 00:29:27,565
I've got you under my skin, the come fly with me,

720
00:29:27,565 --> 00:29:29,245
we're gonna hear even more swinging versions.

721
00:29:29,275 --> 00:29:30,765
Yeah. That you make me feel so young.

722
00:29:31,265 --> 00:29:34,525
He is like phrasing in a way that is, uh,

723
00:29:34,525 --> 00:29:36,525
just really high level.

724
00:29:36,525 --> 00:29:37,845
Yeah. Really high level swing.

725
00:29:38,065 --> 00:29:41,045
And then put on top of that, Peter, he's like one

726
00:29:41,125 --> 00:29:42,565
of the coolest people on the planet.

727
00:29:42,615 --> 00:29:45,965
Right. He's just like confident I'm, you know,

728
00:29:46,065 --> 00:29:47,125
He was living in the right era.

729
00:29:47,225 --> 00:29:50,005
Um, he's literally a movie star. He's handsome.

730
00:29:50,435 --> 00:29:53,765
He's, you know, uh, just charismatic. He's funny. Yeah.

731
00:29:53,825 --> 00:29:55,925
You know, like, it, it's, he's really the total, he

732
00:29:55,925 --> 00:29:56,805
Knows how to dress. I mean,

733
00:29:56,805 --> 00:29:58,365
I'm, He knows how to drink. Captain

734
00:29:58,365 --> 00:29:59,365
Obvious here. Frank Sinatra

735
00:29:59,365 --> 00:30:00,485
is like a total entertainment.

736
00:30:00,485 --> 00:30:02,885
Frank Sinatra is cool. Thanks, man. But like, it's true.

737
00:30:02,915 --> 00:30:04,485
This is really like, but think about that.

738
00:30:04,515 --> 00:30:05,885
He's bigger than just like any

739
00:30:05,885 --> 00:30:07,365
of one thing. He's this entire,

740
00:30:07,795 --> 00:30:10,885
He's every man's man kind of, you know, women want to be

741
00:30:10,885 --> 00:30:12,725
with him and men want to be him or whatever.

742
00:30:12,795 --> 00:30:14,565
Sure, sure, Sure, sure, sure, sure.

743
00:30:14,565 --> 00:30:16,045
How you told me right before the show. Sure.

744
00:30:16,065 --> 00:30:17,765
That's what, that's why I say that a lot. Yeah.

745
00:30:18,305 --> 00:30:21,685
No, but it's, it's, it's also like, you know, testimony to

746
00:30:22,755 --> 00:30:25,405
Sinatra in that, like, think about this.

747
00:30:25,475 --> 00:30:27,805
Tony Bennett recorded

748
00:30:27,805 --> 00:30:30,005
with Basie like seven years before that.

749
00:30:30,005 --> 00:30:32,045
I think 1959 ever heard of 1959.

750
00:30:32,145 --> 00:30:34,925
We talk about 1966, maybe not the swinging this year

751
00:30:35,345 --> 00:30:36,805
for the record for pop music,

752
00:30:37,025 --> 00:30:39,525
but 1959 might've been the pinnacle of swing

753
00:30:39,665 --> 00:30:43,525
and jazz in the, in the public, uh, you know, arena.

754
00:30:44,185 --> 00:30:46,605
So Tony Bennett, you know who I, I mean,

755
00:30:46,725 --> 00:30:48,965
I don't think it's any shade on, on Sinatra to say

756
00:30:48,965 --> 00:30:50,685
that Tony Bennett is naturally a more,

757
00:30:51,325 --> 00:30:52,445
I, look, I'm associating them.

758
00:30:52,445 --> 00:30:55,605
They're both Italian American careful singers. No, they are.

759
00:30:55,605 --> 00:30:58,245
They're, but I mean, Tony Bennett is a lot more naturally

760
00:30:58,525 --> 00:31:00,085
swinging than Sinatra. Bennett,

761
00:31:00,085 --> 00:31:01,365
You say swings as, you know what

762
00:31:01,365 --> 00:31:02,365
I'm saying? For sure. But, so

763
00:31:02,365 --> 00:31:03,605
for Sinatra to do this,

764
00:31:03,705 --> 00:31:06,205
but he recorded with Count Basie in 59 Great Records.

765
00:31:06,205 --> 00:31:07,405
He actually did two records. Yeah.

766
00:31:07,465 --> 00:31:09,045
One for roulette, one for Columbia, yeah.

767
00:31:09,045 --> 00:31:10,045
For both of their different labels.

768
00:31:10,265 --> 00:31:11,725
And look, you're going with what's known

769
00:31:11,725 --> 00:31:13,125
as the Swinging This band.

770
00:31:13,385 --> 00:31:15,605
And, and at that time for, with a singer, even more

771
00:31:15,605 --> 00:31:18,045
so than Duke Ellington band, in a way for like,

772
00:31:18,045 --> 00:31:19,685
like if you're a singer going to Vegas,

773
00:31:19,835 --> 00:31:21,645
like you can't get a swing in her band than this.

774
00:31:21,785 --> 00:31:23,245
So that's a challenge for a singer.

775
00:31:23,515 --> 00:31:25,165
Like, that's like saying, oh,

776
00:31:25,325 --> 00:31:27,005
I think I can pitch, I'm gonna go with the St.

777
00:31:27,005 --> 00:31:28,725
Louis Cardinals or the Los Angeles Dodgers. You

778
00:31:28,725 --> 00:31:29,725
Know what would've been awesome to hear?

779
00:31:30,635 --> 00:31:34,005
Like someone who I think at this time would be the only

780
00:31:34,005 --> 00:31:35,125
rival to Sinatra,

781
00:31:35,125 --> 00:31:37,045
but the circumstances of the time wouldn't allow it.

782
00:31:37,465 --> 00:31:39,725
Who is probably better at him than almost all of this stuff,

783
00:31:39,725 --> 00:31:42,485
including like, the vibe and, and the looks and everything.

784
00:31:42,485 --> 00:31:44,685
Yeah. Nat Cole, Nat King Cole. Oh, well, yeah.

785
00:31:44,685 --> 00:31:46,525
Like the most swinging singer. Yeah.

786
00:31:46,585 --> 00:31:48,045
The most incredible ballad singer.

787
00:31:48,965 --> 00:31:50,685
Unbelievable pianist that Sinatra, the gear

788
00:31:50,845 --> 00:31:52,285
that Sinatra doesn't have is like the

789
00:31:52,445 --> 00:31:53,805
musicianship is right through the roof.

790
00:31:53,815 --> 00:31:56,845
Right. And charismatic hosted his own show, but Yeah.

791
00:31:56,915 --> 00:31:59,525
Yeah. Yeah. I Well, that's a ja I mean, well he kind of,

792
00:31:59,675 --> 00:32:01,205
it's almost like, but, but Nat

793
00:32:01,205 --> 00:32:03,405
and Cole kind of went to the pop world the way

794
00:32:03,405 --> 00:32:05,925
that Sinatra came from the pop world to the jazz world.

795
00:32:05,925 --> 00:32:07,365
That's a little bit of a risk for both of them.

796
00:32:07,365 --> 00:32:09,805
Yeah. But the circumstances of the, of the era was Nak

797
00:32:09,805 --> 00:32:11,645
and Cole had a, had a ceiling put upon him

798
00:32:11,645 --> 00:32:12,885
that Sinatra never did.

799
00:32:13,065 --> 00:32:14,205
Of course. Yeah. Yeah. And,

800
00:32:14,205 --> 00:32:16,485
and it's a shame that we didn't get to hear like Nak

801
00:32:16,485 --> 00:32:18,205
and Cole live at the Sands with the Basie orchestra.

802
00:32:18,205 --> 00:32:20,165
Right. You know what I'm saying? Right, right. Unbelievable.

803
00:32:20,225 --> 00:32:21,365
Of course. Um,

804
00:32:21,785 --> 00:32:23,325
but I mean, Sinatra knew that, like,

805
00:32:23,325 --> 00:32:25,685
it's one thing if you're kind like, okay,

806
00:32:25,685 --> 00:32:27,325
I'm gonna throw some, I know I keep saying no shade.

807
00:32:27,325 --> 00:32:29,725
Like Rod Stewart did like some standard records. Mm-hmm.

808
00:32:29,805 --> 00:32:30,445
They're not the greatest

809
00:32:31,085 --> 00:32:32,085
swinging hist thing. Can you believe

810
00:32:32,085 --> 00:32:33,445
That, rod? Come on the show. Defend

811
00:32:33,605 --> 00:32:34,605
Yourself. Love you, love

812
00:32:34,605 --> 00:32:35,965
me some Rod Stewart. But not those records.

813
00:32:36,345 --> 00:32:38,005
But it's kind of like you can approach playing

814
00:32:38,005 --> 00:32:40,245
with a big man as like, okay, I'm 50 now,

815
00:32:40,705 --> 00:32:41,885
I'm gonna go and go to Vegas.

816
00:32:42,025 --> 00:32:43,285
And like, you know, but,

817
00:32:43,285 --> 00:32:44,645
but Sinatra was just like,

818
00:32:44,825 --> 00:32:47,405
he understood like he was a huge admirer

819
00:32:47,405 --> 00:32:48,565
of Sarah Vaughn and Ella Fitzgerald.

820
00:32:48,875 --> 00:32:50,285
Yeah. No, he definitely, like, he knew.

821
00:32:50,545 --> 00:32:51,925
Not really. He knew it, but he respected

822
00:32:51,925 --> 00:32:52,925
It. No, I didn't mean to put

823
00:32:52,925 --> 00:32:54,245
any disrespect on Frank at all.

824
00:32:54,485 --> 00:32:57,205
I know. Because like, he, unbelievable. Unbelievable.

825
00:32:57,395 --> 00:32:59,805
It's hard to, like, the more, you know, the more,

826
00:33:00,075 --> 00:33:02,245
it's kinda like a jazz player being like, oh,

827
00:33:02,325 --> 00:33:03,405
I really know classical music.

828
00:33:03,505 --> 00:33:04,565
I'm just gonna jump over and do it.

829
00:33:04,565 --> 00:33:05,485
As opposed to like, oh, that's easy.

830
00:33:05,565 --> 00:33:06,205
I can just read the music.

831
00:33:06,225 --> 00:33:07,485
No, he can do it. He could actually do it. Yeah.

832
00:33:07,555 --> 00:33:10,605
Yeah. Um, cool. Alright. Good. Are we gonna

833
00:33:10,605 --> 00:33:11,605
Do the tea break?

834
00:33:12,825 --> 00:33:14,685
You, you're, you're pro, is that,

835
00:33:14,745 --> 00:33:15,845
is that your desert track?

836
00:33:15,845 --> 00:33:17,005
We're not doing the tea break. Is

837
00:33:17,005 --> 00:33:18,005
that your desert island track?

838
00:33:18,505 --> 00:33:20,765
Um, that's, we're saving that for what's age the worst,

839
00:33:22,665 --> 00:33:23,665
So. Yeah, exactly.

840
00:33:23,665 --> 00:33:24,685
Um,

841
00:33:25,005 --> 00:33:26,245
although relative to other, we,

842
00:33:26,245 --> 00:33:27,605
we, well anyway, we'll talk about it. Yeah.

843
00:33:27,645 --> 00:33:28,805
I mean, honestly of the time.

844
00:33:29,065 --> 00:33:30,085
Not terrible. Yeah.

845
00:33:30,305 --> 00:33:31,885
So I wanna check out Street

846
00:33:32,065 --> 00:33:33,685
of Dreams, which is the next track.

847
00:33:33,685 --> 00:33:35,405
And then we're gonna start skipping. I mean, there's man,

848
00:33:35,405 --> 00:33:36,685
everything is slamming on this record,

849
00:33:37,025 --> 00:33:38,365
but this is some really great

850
00:33:38,985 --> 00:33:39,925
Street of dreams. Good

851
00:33:39,925 --> 00:33:40,925
Street of dreams.

852
00:33:42,995 --> 00:33:44,645
There's Some good improv by the,

853
00:33:44,645 --> 00:33:45,645
by the chairman on this.

854
00:33:46,465 --> 00:33:49,685
Is there though? Yeah. I might have a quibble with that.

855
00:33:49,685 --> 00:33:50,685
Really? Yeah.

856
00:33:51,705 --> 00:33:56,325
Uh oh. Love laughs at a king

857
00:33:56,345 --> 00:33:57,285
That's killing. Yeah.

858
00:33:57,935 --> 00:34:02,885
Kings don't mean a thing on the street of dreams,

859
00:34:05,305 --> 00:34:06,305
Man. This were rages dreams

860
00:34:06,305 --> 00:34:06,525
861
00:34:07,505 --> 00:34:12,165
Broken into can be made like new,

862
00:34:12,715 --> 00:34:13,715
This kind of song. I

863
00:34:13,715 --> 00:34:16,485
don't think anyone can do, I don't think anyone can do it

864
00:34:16,485 --> 00:34:18,605
better than Frank Male vocalist, I

865
00:34:18,605 --> 00:34:19,605
Don't know. Gold,

866
00:34:19,605 --> 00:34:21,205
silver and

867
00:34:21,315 --> 00:34:22,315
Gold. Like with the great

868
00:34:22,315 --> 00:34:24,205
lyrics. Like he's, his delivery is

869
00:34:24,545 --> 00:34:28,765
All you can hold up there on a moon.

870
00:34:31,545 --> 00:34:32,645
Man. Sweet Edison

871
00:34:33,455 --> 00:34:34,455
Ain't nobody.

872
00:34:36,275 --> 00:34:37,485
Long as love is

873
00:34:55,945 --> 00:34:57,165
Got a Little shaky towards the end.

874
00:34:57,165 --> 00:34:59,245
That's true. I forgot about that. Well, that's good.

875
00:34:59,245 --> 00:35:00,485
We, no, it starts

876
00:35:00,705 --> 00:35:01,705
Off strong. A

877
00:35:01,705 --> 00:35:03,805
little shaky. It's not really his thing.

878
00:35:04,155 --> 00:35:06,205
It's not his, but he sticks on strong. Yeah.

879
00:35:06,385 --> 00:35:09,565
Um, no, but I think for this kind of, this kind of a song,

880
00:35:09,625 --> 00:35:11,205
man, Frank just, just kills

881
00:35:11,205 --> 00:35:12,485
It, obviously. Well, I totally agree.

882
00:35:12,485 --> 00:35:14,205
Every, everything outta here. But this was another thing,

883
00:35:14,205 --> 00:35:17,085
like Frank was such a like, control freak apparently.

884
00:35:17,465 --> 00:35:20,365
And like, so precision and, and detail oriented.

885
00:35:20,365 --> 00:35:22,485
It's like everything. He wanted to know exactly what to do,

886
00:35:22,485 --> 00:35:23,805
rehearse it a, a bunch.

887
00:35:23,885 --> 00:35:25,605
I know some people that work with him too later on.

888
00:35:25,765 --> 00:35:27,165
It was just like everything. Yeah.

889
00:35:27,425 --> 00:35:28,765
He really wanted it to be right.

890
00:35:28,865 --> 00:35:30,205
He came across as a, Hey,

891
00:35:30,705 --> 00:35:31,885
how are these people getting in my room?

892
00:35:32,225 --> 00:35:34,805
You know what's weird is I, this is so weird.

893
00:35:34,805 --> 00:35:37,765
Everybody who's at the highest level is like that. I know.

894
00:35:37,815 --> 00:35:39,605
Isn't that strange? It is weird. What a coincidence.

895
00:35:39,665 --> 00:35:41,805
It is weird. Everybody working at the highest

896
00:35:41,805 --> 00:35:43,045
level is super particular.

897
00:35:43,055 --> 00:35:44,285
Right. And works super hard.

898
00:35:44,345 --> 00:35:45,365
And once we around other people

899
00:35:45,365 --> 00:35:46,765
like Quincy Jones, like wild. That

900
00:35:46,765 --> 00:35:47,765
Wild? That's wild. How that works out.

901
00:35:47,765 --> 00:35:48,365
Yeah. We'll

902
00:35:48,365 --> 00:35:49,365
Go figure. Alright, let's check our notes.

903
00:35:49,365 --> 00:35:49,965
Um,

904
00:35:50,235 --> 00:35:51,245
alright, well this is crazy.

905
00:35:51,445 --> 00:35:53,125
'cause not we gotta listen to at least a little bit of this

906
00:35:53,125 --> 00:35:56,525
because, and this is Bill Miller.

907
00:35:57,545 --> 00:35:58,605
Go on. Bill Miller. And

908
00:35:58,605 --> 00:36:00,045
I think he was on a opera piano, a

909
00:36:00,045 --> 00:36:01,205
Program where we sing a drunk song,

910
00:36:01,565 --> 00:36:02,565
A drunk song.

911
00:36:02,625 --> 00:36:04,125
He talks a lot about drinking on this album

912
00:36:04,185 --> 00:36:05,125
And the way he talks about it, you

913
00:36:05,125 --> 00:36:06,765
can't talk about it like this anymore. Well,

914
00:36:07,055 --> 00:36:09,845
Drunk songs are usually done in small bars and bistros,

915
00:36:10,075 --> 00:36:11,805
Bistros, bistros Three hours of the morning

916
00:36:14,875 --> 00:36:18,085
usually talked or sung by a fellow who's got problems.

917
00:36:19,765 --> 00:36:21,725
I don't think he was Alcoholism broad.

918
00:36:21,745 --> 00:36:23,245
Flu to coop. Broad

919
00:36:23,305 --> 00:36:24,305
Flu to coop. Flu

920
00:36:24,305 --> 00:36:25,105
to coop

921
00:36:26,195 --> 00:36:27,565
With another guy and all the bread.

922
00:36:31,825 --> 00:36:36,085
So if, uh, you will assume the position

923
00:36:36,085 --> 00:36:37,125
of a bartender.

924
00:36:37,635 --> 00:36:40,405
Bartender. That's the way these guys behave.

925
00:36:43,625 --> 00:36:45,045
So apparently there was an upright piano

926
00:36:45,145 --> 00:36:46,565
and Cal Bey's Grand up there.

927
00:36:46,565 --> 00:36:48,565
Oh, interesting. Yeah, it was a show. It was a show.

928
00:36:48,715 --> 00:36:53,685
It's quoted a three. There's no one in the place.

929
00:36:54,635 --> 00:36:56,885
Bill Miller Gray Piano's Perfect company

930
00:36:56,985 --> 00:36:57,985
Set. You and me

931
00:36:57,985 --> 00:36:57,985
932
00:37:03,705 --> 00:37:04,245
Set him up.

933
00:37:04,345 --> 00:37:07,845
Joe, I got a little story.

934
00:37:09,425 --> 00:37:12,925
Mm-hmm. I think you should know

935
00:37:17,225 --> 00:37:22,045
we are drinking my friend to the end

936
00:37:23,865 --> 00:37:25,365
of a brief episode.

937
00:37:31,235 --> 00:37:32,765
Make it one for my baby

938
00:37:33,345 --> 00:37:36,405
Man And another

939
00:37:36,405 --> 00:37:38,445
One piano jacked up out tunes still sounds,

940
00:37:39,185 --> 00:37:41,125
Man, shout out Harold Harold Arland

941
00:37:41,125 --> 00:37:44,205
and Johnny Mercer for writing such an incredible song.

942
00:37:44,265 --> 00:37:46,965
The Punchline comes at this weird part. Yeah.

943
00:37:47,045 --> 00:37:49,245
Like the setup of it is, is amazing.

944
00:37:49,355 --> 00:37:52,645
Like, I, I honestly can't fathom writing a I know it's,

945
00:37:52,795 --> 00:37:54,205
it's a silly drunk song or whatever.

946
00:37:54,205 --> 00:37:57,005
Yeah. I can't fathom writing a song that is so sophisticated

947
00:37:57,005 --> 00:37:59,605
and structured that sets up that punchline so Well, it's

948
00:37:59,605 --> 00:38:00,605
Fantastic. Yeah. And it was, you

949
00:38:00,605 --> 00:38:00,925
know, first,

950
00:38:00,935 --> 00:38:03,445
first performed in the movie, sky's The Limit

951
00:38:03,465 --> 00:38:05,165
by Fred Astaire, who brought a whole

952
00:38:05,205 --> 00:38:07,405
nother kind of thing to it. Uh, but Harold

953
00:38:07,405 --> 00:38:10,325
Arland genius, Harold Ar incredible, and Johnny Mercer.

954
00:38:10,465 --> 00:38:12,325
And this was so, uh, good night and good luck.

955
00:38:12,325 --> 00:38:13,885
Diane Rees does a great version of this.

956
00:38:13,885 --> 00:38:17,045
And George Clooney as the credits are rolling in, in, um,

957
00:38:18,025 --> 00:38:20,085
uh, good night and good luck at the end of the movie. And

958
00:38:20,085 --> 00:38:21,085
She's, who's playing piano on that?

959
00:38:21,085 --> 00:38:22,925
I don't know who's playing, but he's, he's incredible.

960
00:38:23,145 --> 00:38:24,285
Sounds like Herbie Hancock.

961
00:38:24,285 --> 00:38:25,605
Sounds like a combination of not

962
00:38:25,605 --> 00:38:26,645
King Cole and Herbie Hancock.

963
00:38:26,915 --> 00:38:29,005
Yeah. A little king Kenny Kirkland. Throw it in.

964
00:38:29,425 --> 00:38:31,485
Uh, right. So, um, it's Peter Martin.

965
00:38:31,585 --> 00:38:32,885
Man, Peter Martin's playing on that. Man,

966
00:38:32,885 --> 00:38:34,325
This is really hard for me

967
00:38:34,325 --> 00:38:36,005
to skip any tracks on here so far.

968
00:38:36,125 --> 00:38:37,245
I did and I skipped over.

969
00:38:37,365 --> 00:38:38,925
I got a crush on you, the Gray Gershwin

970
00:38:38,925 --> 00:38:40,085
song earlier, which was, that's a good one.

971
00:38:40,225 --> 00:38:41,325
I'm gonna start playing just less one,

972
00:38:41,325 --> 00:38:43,365
but it's hard to, you know, this is Fly Me to the Moon.

973
00:38:43,835 --> 00:38:46,085
Does it gimme any more iconic strength than this? No.

974
00:38:46,225 --> 00:38:48,405
Johnny Mercer and Harold Allen.

975
00:38:49,715 --> 00:38:51,205
Okay. He sounds cool.

976
00:38:51,355 --> 00:38:54,045
Just saying Howard Allen, like the way he says it.

977
00:38:54,045 --> 00:38:55,325
Sorry, I didn't sound cool saying that,

978
00:38:55,465 --> 00:38:56,525
but check out the swing.

979
00:38:56,845 --> 00:38:57,725
Somebody's like tapping their

980
00:38:57,725 --> 00:38:59,045
foot or maybe it's just the vibe.

981
00:38:59,045 --> 00:39:01,245
Check, check out how much it's swinging before Count.

982
00:39:01,295 --> 00:39:02,565
Basie like as count.

983
00:39:02,785 --> 00:39:04,765
His comping is off the charts, but check it out.

984
00:39:06,425 --> 00:39:07,425
You hear that

985
00:39:08,065 --> 00:39:10,245
Johnny Mercer and Harold Allen.

986
00:39:11,545 --> 00:39:11,765
Oh.

987
00:39:17,395 --> 00:39:19,445
Like, you can't come in, not swinging at with this

988
00:39:19,645 --> 00:39:20,645
Entrance. Now this man here,

989
00:39:20,645 --> 00:39:24,245
uhoh Uhoh is gonna take me by the hand

990
00:39:25,745 --> 00:39:27,445
and he going to lead me down the right path.

991
00:39:27,705 --> 00:39:32,405
Oh. To Righteousness and all that other mother jazz.

992
00:39:33,315 --> 00:39:35,085
Another time in the right tempo.

993
00:39:35,265 --> 00:39:38,205
Norman Keenan To the moon.

994
00:39:39,975 --> 00:39:42,405
Lemme swing among those stars.

995
00:39:45,105 --> 00:39:46,205
See, bring a ding

996
00:39:46,205 --> 00:39:46,645
Ding. Right.

997
00:39:46,785 --> 00:39:49,765
Is like on chopping the wood.

998
00:39:49,765 --> 00:39:53,365
We chop in the woods. We man chop in the wood. Okay.

999
00:39:53,905 --> 00:39:56,045
We, we might have to get like a Mount Rushmore

1000
00:39:56,045 --> 00:39:57,045
of just swing.

1001
00:39:57,645 --> 00:40:00,005
I forgot how, I mean, we're coming in. That hurts my face.

1002
00:40:00,145 --> 00:40:02,845
The swing so hard. No, this is like a stank my face.

1003
00:40:02,985 --> 00:40:05,365
But I think that all this lead up to it though.

1004
00:40:05,505 --> 00:40:07,205
He gonna lead me down this anticipation.

1005
00:40:07,445 --> 00:40:08,725
I don't know about all this. I don't know about

1006
00:40:08,725 --> 00:40:10,765
that. You're talking

1007
00:40:10,765 --> 00:40:11,845
To Lake Ju talking about jazz.

1008
00:40:12,245 --> 00:40:13,605
I don't know what that is, but I mean,

1009
00:40:13,605 --> 00:40:15,925
when they starts walking, bassy

1010
00:40:16,375 --> 00:40:20,285
Slimy to the moon and Frank swinging. Frank is

1011
00:40:20,405 --> 00:40:21,405
Swinging. Swing among those

1012
00:40:21,405 --> 00:40:21,765
stars.

1013
00:40:23,195 --> 00:40:27,125
Whoever's playing on Flu. See what spring is like. Chop

1014
00:40:27,125 --> 00:40:28,125
It. Chopping. You're right.

1015
00:40:28,125 --> 00:40:28,325
1016
00:40:29,265 --> 00:40:32,485
Oh, in other words,

1017
00:40:34,665 --> 00:40:35,885
Oh, When the band comes in,

1018
00:40:38,385 --> 00:40:39,885
we Freddie Green again. Oh,

1019
00:40:39,885 --> 00:40:40,885
Freddie. In other words,

1020
00:40:40,885 --> 00:40:43,645
Bodu baby.

1021
00:40:43,995 --> 00:40:45,565
Yeah. Listen to the rule of three here.

1022
00:40:45,565 --> 00:40:46,845
Like, listen to what's going on.

1023
00:40:48,835 --> 00:40:50,685
Fill my heart in song.

1024
00:40:51,905 --> 00:40:54,645
Let me sing forever more.

1025
00:40:56,425 --> 00:40:57,565
Man, this could

1026
00:40:57,565 --> 00:40:58,565
Be so corny too.

1027
00:40:58,565 --> 00:40:59,965
If you don't deliver on this thought.

1028
00:41:00,005 --> 00:41:01,325
I wish it could be so Cheesy

1029
00:41:01,905 --> 00:41:05,005
In, in other

1030
00:41:05,005 --> 00:41:08,805
words, to be true.

1031
00:41:12,785 --> 00:41:16,845
In other words, I love you.

1032
00:41:18,465 --> 00:41:18,685
Oh

1033
00:41:26,385 --> 00:41:27,385
Man. This trumpet section.

1034
00:41:27,385 --> 00:41:27,605
1035
00:41:32,665 --> 00:41:33,845
So Quincy's gonna move this

1036
00:41:33,845 --> 00:41:36,205
melody to all these different colors.

1037
00:41:36,235 --> 00:41:36,525
Yeah.

1038
00:41:41,795 --> 00:41:44,205
Back to the trumpet. Oh, to Basie the

1039
00:41:44,205 --> 00:41:46,925
Flute led the earlier To the saxophones.

1040
00:41:49,455 --> 00:41:50,455
Drums To the trumpet.

1041
00:41:53,185 --> 00:41:55,965
Why Don't you feel my heart with song?

1042
00:41:56,705 --> 00:41:58,445
Let The s is underneath it

1043
00:41:58,795 --> 00:41:59,805
Forever more. And

1044
00:41:59,805 --> 00:42:00,965
In these little stabs by the bra.

1045
00:42:01,445 --> 00:42:05,285
'cause you are all I long for all I

1046
00:42:05,435 --> 00:42:06,885
That anticipation Frank doing

1047
00:42:06,985 --> 00:42:08,925
And I adore Francis.

1048
00:42:09,505 --> 00:42:10,505
In other words,

1049
00:42:12,545 --> 00:42:14,005
Please be true.

1050
00:42:17,905 --> 00:42:22,485
In other words. In other

1051
00:42:22,485 --> 00:42:24,685
words, ah,

1052
00:42:25,305 --> 00:42:28,685
For this part, I, I

1053
00:42:28,995 --> 00:42:30,965
Love, That's such a weird pull.

1054
00:42:34,225 --> 00:42:36,885
You, Oh, sorry. We had to fade out. Automatic fade out.

1055
00:42:37,165 --> 00:42:39,645
I didn't do that. I didn't do that. What are you doing?

1056
00:42:39,995 --> 00:42:43,485
What are you doing? I just caught a wave. Oh man.

1057
00:42:43,665 --> 00:42:46,525
Man, it's so, I mean, I think that track,

1058
00:42:46,735 --> 00:42:51,365
especially like I almost forget that they're in a, you know,

1059
00:42:51,385 --> 00:42:53,645
the Copa room, what could be considered a little cheesy,

1060
00:42:53,825 --> 00:42:55,085
little mid-century modern.

1061
00:42:55,145 --> 00:42:57,445
That's probably cool. The Copa room, uh,

1062
00:42:57,465 --> 00:42:59,365
at the Sands Hotel in Las Vegas

1063
00:42:59,635 --> 00:43:01,125
with a bunch of people from Peoria.

1064
00:43:01,395 --> 00:43:02,445
Like, I, I start think,

1065
00:43:02,905 --> 00:43:04,645
the reason I'm saying this is why do you keep saying

1066
00:43:04,705 --> 00:43:05,705
Peoria? I don't why

1067
00:43:05,705 --> 00:43:07,685
slander for mid Illinois?

1068
00:43:08,055 --> 00:43:11,085
Shout out a, a famous person from, um,

1069
00:43:12,865 --> 00:43:14,885
oh, Richard Pryor from Peoria.

1070
00:43:14,955 --> 00:43:16,125
Look, I just say Peoria.

1071
00:43:16,455 --> 00:43:18,005
Shout out Richard Pryor's from Peoria.

1072
00:43:18,385 --> 00:43:22,845
Um, no, I said Chesterfield too earlier. Clayton Kirk,

1073
00:43:22,845 --> 00:43:24,165
Nobody knows about Chesterfield

1074
00:43:24,165 --> 00:43:25,805
Clayton, and unless they live in St. Louis, Missouri,

1075
00:43:26,125 --> 00:43:27,125
Everyone knows Peoria. No.

1076
00:43:27,125 --> 00:43:29,285
The idea of like, the way they're playing on this,

1077
00:43:29,635 --> 00:43:32,125
this sounds like the Basie band.

1078
00:43:32,865 --> 00:43:35,165
It sounds great. We all know that Sinatra.

1079
00:43:35,165 --> 00:43:38,405
So, but like the precision that they're executing on is

1080
00:43:38,425 --> 00:43:40,365
so a plus level for sure.

1081
00:43:40,435 --> 00:43:42,365
It's like the opposite of like, like if,

1082
00:43:42,365 --> 00:43:43,925
like what's the most derogatory thing?

1083
00:43:44,025 --> 00:43:45,765
Oh, they sounded like an old Vegas band.

1084
00:43:46,265 --> 00:43:47,685
You know, like we would use that as a little bit

1085
00:43:47,845 --> 00:43:48,965
der you know, some okay.

1086
00:43:49,205 --> 00:43:50,205
Musicians, but they're just kind of going

1087
00:43:50,205 --> 00:43:52,005
through the motions in the background while

1088
00:43:52,005 --> 00:43:53,125
the slot machines are going.

1089
00:43:53,345 --> 00:43:56,525
But like, this sounds like, like I, I almost forgot

1090
00:43:56,665 --> 00:43:58,325
how great of a band, the basic,

1091
00:43:58,565 --> 00:43:59,685
'cause we always think of Duke Ellington,

1092
00:43:59,705 --> 00:44:01,125
of course the Duke Ellington band.

1093
00:44:01,505 --> 00:44:02,645
That's the mo. But I mean,

1094
00:44:02,645 --> 00:44:04,325
count Basie band is right there in terms

1095
00:44:04,325 --> 00:44:05,845
of like individual players.

1096
00:44:05,945 --> 00:44:08,325
The section, I mean, Harry Sweet's Edison holds this thing

1097
00:44:08,485 --> 00:44:11,165
together with the, with his improv on this count bass.

1098
00:44:11,165 --> 00:44:13,285
He's comping Sonny Payne. Sonny Payne. Yeah.

1099
00:44:13,325 --> 00:44:14,645
I mean he doesn't get any better than that. Yeah.

1100
00:44:14,645 --> 00:44:16,485
And then Frank Sinatra is like his phrasing

1101
00:44:16,485 --> 00:44:18,925
and the little like, when he's doing those anticipations

1102
00:44:19,145 --> 00:44:21,005
and it's all great stuff. It's

1103
00:44:21,005 --> 00:44:22,005
Amazing. It's amazing. And

1104
00:44:22,005 --> 00:44:23,365
that, that song written

1105
00:44:23,365 --> 00:44:25,245
by Bart Howard in 1954.

1106
00:44:25,305 --> 00:44:27,325
So this song is only like 12 years old. I know. It's funny.

1107
00:44:27,325 --> 00:44:28,565
It'd be like a song written in 20,

1108
00:44:28,565 --> 00:44:30,525
thir in 2013 that we would play today.

1109
00:44:31,085 --> 00:44:33,365
Like a, like a a Taylor Swift standard. Yeah.

1110
00:44:33,365 --> 00:44:34,925
It would be like playing a Taylor Swift song. Okay.

1111
00:44:34,925 --> 00:44:38,245
But it's just made for Frank Sinatra when he comes in with

1112
00:44:38,245 --> 00:44:40,005
that first Fly Me to the Moon.

1113
00:44:40,115 --> 00:44:44,565
Yeah, it is. So like, his quarter note feels amazing. Yeah.

1114
00:44:44,625 --> 00:44:46,805
And his, the richness of his voice right now

1115
00:44:46,895 --> 00:44:50,725
after what I'm guessing is 40 years of drinking and smoking.

1116
00:44:51,385 --> 00:44:52,805
But see he was 50. Yeah. Probably

1117
00:44:52,805 --> 00:44:53,805
About four. Yeah, he is incredible.

1118
00:44:53,805 --> 00:44:55,485
I mean he growing up in the

1119
00:44:55,515 --> 00:44:57,845
tenements in Hoboken, you know what I mean? Uh,

1120
00:44:57,985 --> 00:44:59,125
Hey, hey. Can't say tenement,

1121
00:44:59,855 --> 00:45:02,925
Can't say everything, but, um, man. Yeah. Incredible.

1122
00:45:02,955 --> 00:45:05,765
Yeah. So good. Um, okay, I can't skip over this track,

1123
00:45:05,865 --> 00:45:06,885
but we're gonna go quick here.

1124
00:45:06,885 --> 00:45:08,445
This is, this is a cool thing.

1125
00:45:08,445 --> 00:45:10,285
They had a band number, they actually used

1126
00:45:10,285 --> 00:45:11,405
to do a whole band set,

1127
00:45:11,405 --> 00:45:12,965
like a warmup set. I dunno if they did on

1128
00:45:12,965 --> 00:45:13,965
This show. I listen to the warmup set in

1129
00:45:13,965 --> 00:45:13,965
1130
00:45:13,965 --> 00:45:14,965
preparation is really great. Oh,

1131
00:45:14,965 --> 00:45:15,965
Did they do it on this show? There's

1132
00:45:15,965 --> 00:45:18,405
a double album that contains a whole basey set

1133
00:45:18,405 --> 00:45:19,725
before this, which is fantastic. Yeah.

1134
00:45:19,725 --> 00:45:20,565
It's called like before, like

1135
00:45:20,615 --> 00:45:21,885
Sands Before Frank or something.

1136
00:45:21,885 --> 00:45:23,605
Yeah. It's great. But this is one I think

1137
00:45:31,345 --> 00:45:32,245
Can we, can, can

1138
00:45:32,245 --> 00:45:33,245
We just go back Yeah.

1139
00:45:35,155 --> 00:45:37,445
Real quick. I'm gonna go, I'm actually going

1140
00:45:37,445 --> 00:45:38,845
to take this a little bit.

1141
00:45:40,005 --> 00:45:42,245
I don't like what we have. Our system here is amazing.

1142
00:45:42,465 --> 00:45:44,045
It never fails except when it does.

1143
00:45:44,745 --> 00:45:46,765
Um, but I wanna just put this on.

1144
00:45:49,165 --> 00:45:51,495
Boom. Look at him moving, look at him, uh,

1145
00:45:52,675 --> 00:45:56,215
On Spotify so that we can hear the transition. Okay.

1146
00:45:56,755 --> 00:45:57,935
Oh Right, right, right, right. It's

1147
00:45:57,935 --> 00:45:59,015
super, oh, it's perfect.

1148
00:45:59,155 --> 00:46:00,255
At the end of Fly Me to the Moon

1149
00:46:04,105 --> 00:46:05,105
Words, words.

1150
00:46:08,115 --> 00:46:09,115
In other words,

1151
00:46:10,215 --> 00:46:11,375
I love his pullback here.

1152
00:46:12,475 --> 00:46:14,375
Hi. So effective.

1153
00:46:14,775 --> 00:46:16,775
I love, But listen to how quickly

1154
00:46:20,075 --> 00:46:22,855
You Yeah.

1155
00:46:23,075 --> 00:46:24,775
Oh yeah. Right David, it's a show.

1156
00:46:24,845 --> 00:46:27,455
It's a show. Like,

1157
00:46:27,475 --> 00:46:30,335
So Frank is Obviously still taking his vows here.

1158
00:46:30,335 --> 00:46:31,855
Yeah, yeah. One o'clock jump

1159
00:46:41,325 --> 00:46:42,775
just to throw a little bit that in there.

1160
00:46:42,775 --> 00:46:44,415
Yeah, absolutely. And then the whole thing's a show.

1161
00:46:44,475 --> 00:46:46,015
The whole thing's a show. It's a show. And then right

1162
00:46:46,015 --> 00:46:48,175
after the one o'clock jump on the album is the Tea break,

1163
00:46:48,175 --> 00:46:50,415
which is 11 minutes of Frank Sinatra doing it.

1164
00:46:50,415 --> 00:46:51,455
Basically a standup. Let's

1165
00:46:51,455 --> 00:46:51,895
Just listen to it. Right.

1166
00:46:52,215 --> 00:46:56,015
A standup routine. A standup routine that doesn't, I mean,

1167
00:46:56,285 --> 00:46:59,015
some of it is actually pretty funny. His delivery,

1168
00:46:59,125 --> 00:47:00,125
It's pretty funny, Is hilarious. Some

1169
00:47:00,125 --> 00:47:02,935
of it is, is not, uh, doesn't hold up well

1170
00:47:02,955 --> 00:47:04,455
to modern standards of whatever,

1171
00:47:04,475 --> 00:47:06,895
but it's, he's entertaining as hell.

1172
00:47:06,895 --> 00:47:08,695
The audience is super into it. He is.

1173
00:47:08,715 --> 00:47:11,295
And look like everybody, there's probably like, you know,

1174
00:47:11,295 --> 00:47:13,295
there's the time, there's contradictions, whatever.

1175
00:47:13,295 --> 00:47:15,015
But I just wanna say, I mean this is well documented

1176
00:47:15,015 --> 00:47:16,895
and was a big part of Frank Sinatra's life.

1177
00:47:17,595 --> 00:47:20,175
And um, like his work

1178
00:47:20,315 --> 00:47:23,255
for the Civil rights movement was like, was, was

1179
00:47:23,775 --> 00:47:25,935
apparently very selfless and well documented.

1180
00:47:26,195 --> 00:47:28,695
And especially in particular in Las Vegas.

1181
00:47:29,305 --> 00:47:32,205
You know, he somewhat single handedly changed the way

1182
00:47:32,745 --> 00:47:35,005
the African Americans entertainers

1183
00:47:35,005 --> 00:47:36,605
who were already being employed of course,

1184
00:47:37,185 --> 00:47:40,525
in full force at the casinos, um, you know,

1185
00:47:40,825 --> 00:47:42,125
as entertainers they had

1186
00:47:42,125 --> 00:47:43,845
to stay at different hotels on the other side of town.

1187
00:47:43,845 --> 00:47:45,245
They couldn't go out on the floor and stuff.

1188
00:47:45,425 --> 00:47:46,965
And Frank not really made a stand

1189
00:47:46,965 --> 00:47:48,205
and was like, this isn't right.

1190
00:47:48,465 --> 00:47:50,285
And then even had some of his bodyguards,

1191
00:47:50,695 --> 00:47:53,845
bodyguards his guys, you know, you know, going

1192
00:47:53,845 --> 00:47:56,165
with the musicians and the stars, Ella Fitzgerald

1193
00:47:56,165 --> 00:47:57,165
and stuff out into the thing.

1194
00:47:57,165 --> 00:47:58,845
It's like if anybody messes with him telling 'em they're

1195
00:47:58,845 --> 00:47:59,885
messing with Frank Sinatra

1196
00:48:00,105 --> 00:48:01,325
and a lot of the the, um,

1197
00:48:01,425 --> 00:48:03,445
mob Up bosses were running the hotels and stuff.

1198
00:48:03,445 --> 00:48:05,685
We're like, we're not changing stuff. And Sinatra was like,

1199
00:48:05,685 --> 00:48:06,605
cool, I'm going back to la

1200
00:48:06,605 --> 00:48:07,725
You're not gonna have your boy anymore.

1201
00:48:07,865 --> 00:48:09,845
Wow. You know, good for him. Talk, talk to your boy.

1202
00:48:10,505 --> 00:48:12,965
That's For next week. So look, we're no experts on this

1203
00:48:12,965 --> 00:48:14,885
and I'm sure there was all sorts of different, um,

1204
00:48:14,885 --> 00:48:15,885
things along the lines,

1205
00:48:15,985 --> 00:48:18,485
but there's always a couple of different sides to the thing.

1206
00:48:18,785 --> 00:48:20,125
And actually this would probably be a good time.

1207
00:48:20,125 --> 00:48:22,605
This is Quincy Jones talking about Sinatra.

1208
00:48:22,605 --> 00:48:26,245
This is him talking, I believe in 1964.

1209
00:48:26,425 --> 00:48:27,485
So Quincy first worked

1210
00:48:27,485 --> 00:48:30,685
with him like 59 60 when he was living in Europe studying

1211
00:48:31,165 --> 00:48:32,565
Quincy was living in Paris, studying

1212
00:48:32,565 --> 00:48:36,565
with nad Nadia Bullinger, the, uh, composer pianist.

1213
00:48:36,585 --> 00:48:38,845
And, and was, and Sinatra first kind

1214
00:48:38,845 --> 00:48:39,885
of, it wasn't his first big break.

1215
00:48:40,245 --> 00:48:42,285
Quincy had been doing stuff, but it was his first really,

1216
00:48:42,285 --> 00:48:44,005
really big break in high

1217
00:48:44,005 --> 00:48:44,645
Profile. Yeah.

1218
00:48:45,045 --> 00:48:47,365
I was sitting in my office one day in New York in

1219
00:48:47,365 --> 00:48:49,285
64 and the phone rang.

1220
00:48:49,285 --> 00:48:51,045
Okay. I picked it up.

1221
00:48:51,565 --> 00:48:54,365
I heard him say, this is Frank Sinatra.

1222
00:48:55,365 --> 00:48:56,925
I like what you and basically did together

1223
00:48:57,025 --> 00:49:00,005
and I'd like you to arrange and conduct my next album.

1224
00:49:00,385 --> 00:49:01,845
It might as well be swing.

1225
00:49:03,195 --> 00:49:06,125
That call from Frank was a major turning point in my

1226
00:49:06,125 --> 00:49:07,285
career and my life.

1227
00:49:08,305 --> 00:49:09,525
And then this is Sinatra.

1228
00:49:09,875 --> 00:49:10,885
Working with AC

1229
00:49:11,145 --> 00:49:15,285
and Quincy was the most exciting engagement I have ever done

1230
00:49:15,285 --> 00:49:16,725
in my life since I've been performing.

1231
00:49:18,795 --> 00:49:23,645
Jump Cue Quincy had

1232
00:49:23,725 --> 00:49:25,165
a key to the Basie band

1233
00:49:25,835 --> 00:49:28,125
more than any other orchestrator that I know of.

1234
00:49:33,065 --> 00:49:34,965
And I began to realize that he was a giant.

1235
00:49:38,235 --> 00:49:39,525
Yeah. So that's kind of, you know,

1236
00:49:39,745 --> 00:49:40,925
in their own words as we would

1237
00:49:40,925 --> 00:49:41,925
Say. Amazing. Yeah. Amazing

1238
00:49:41,925 --> 00:49:42,485
to hear.

1239
00:49:43,225 --> 00:49:47,205
Um, let's get to a few, um, Categories. Yeah.

1240
00:49:47,205 --> 00:49:49,325
Categories. Yeah. Desert Island tracks.

1241
00:49:49,325 --> 00:49:50,885
Peter, I've got one and it's actually the

1242
00:49:50,885 --> 00:49:52,045
next song after the tea break.

1243
00:49:52,045 --> 00:49:54,205
Yeah. Uh, after the the standup monologue. Yeah.

1244
00:49:54,765 --> 00:49:58,125
I, I don't know what it is. You know, this song is good.

1245
00:49:58,355 --> 00:49:59,605
It's not my favorite song.

1246
00:50:00,275 --> 00:50:02,165
There's something about the, the some

1247
00:50:02,165 --> 00:50:03,245
of the parts on this one.

1248
00:50:03,725 --> 00:50:04,925
I, I don't know. There's some real

1249
00:50:04,925 --> 00:50:06,005
juice in this performance.

1250
00:50:06,105 --> 00:50:08,325
Yes. That I can't get enough of this recording.

1251
00:50:08,505 --> 00:50:10,165
Oh, you're talking about, uh, you make me feel so young.

1252
00:50:10,165 --> 00:50:11,605
You make me feel so young. I Agree. I think this is

1253
00:50:11,605 --> 00:50:15,605
kind of a situation where Frank Sinatra turns this from a

1254
00:50:15,605 --> 00:50:17,165
good song into a great song like It

1255
00:50:17,485 --> 00:50:18,485
Delivery on it's a fine song. It's,

1256
00:50:18,485 --> 00:50:20,365
it's really well written. But there's something

1257
00:50:20,365 --> 00:50:21,925
special about this version

1258
00:50:22,225 --> 00:50:24,485
Now I think I better sing before I turn 51.

1259
00:50:25,685 --> 00:50:27,200
I mean 29, excuse me. Me.

1260
00:50:29,865 --> 00:50:31,045
Did they know how to come in swinging?

1261
00:50:31,345 --> 00:50:32,605
Was that like on their contract?

1262
00:50:33,825 --> 00:50:35,525
You make me feel so young.

1263
00:50:37,385 --> 00:50:41,645
You make me feel like spring sprung every time

1264
00:50:42,405 --> 00:50:45,845
I see you grin such a happy

1265
00:50:47,015 --> 00:50:50,285
individual the moment that you speak.

1266
00:50:52,405 --> 00:50:55,125
I wanna run and play high and see.

1267
00:50:56,445 --> 00:51:01,045
I wanna go and bounce the moon just like a toy. Come on.

1268
00:51:01,045 --> 00:51:05,445
Balloon. You and I

1269
00:51:05,845 --> 00:51:06,845
Swinging out.

1270
00:51:07,175 --> 00:51:09,565
We're just like a couple of tots.

1271
00:51:10,445 --> 00:51:11,645
I love the way he says tot Yeah.

1272
00:51:11,645 --> 00:51:13,805
Running around a lot of big four on this too.

1273
00:51:14,755 --> 00:51:17,925
Picking up all those, forget to me nuts.

1274
00:51:18,705 --> 00:51:20,685
You make me feel so young.

1275
00:51:22,545 --> 00:51:25,645
You make me feel there are songs to be sung

1276
00:51:27,065 --> 00:51:29,885
to be rung and a wonderful ling to be.

1277
00:51:32,345 --> 00:51:33,565
And even when I'm old

1278
00:51:33,585 --> 00:51:37,485
and great, I'm gonna feel the way I do

1279
00:51:39,135 --> 00:51:40,445
today tag

1280
00:51:40,835 --> 00:51:45,325
because you make me feel so young.

1281
00:51:47,375 --> 00:51:48,485
We're gonna keep going on this.

1282
00:51:50,105 --> 00:51:53,365
You make me young Transposition Harry, she

1283
00:51:53,605 --> 00:51:54,765
Edison. Make me think that spring

1284
00:51:55,185 --> 00:51:57,365
My leg won't stop moving. I know, man. Every

1285
00:51:57,365 --> 00:51:59,565
Time I see you Stuck.

1286
00:51:59,905 --> 00:52:01,645
And pretty soon we're actually gonna get to my,

1287
00:52:01,665 --> 00:52:03,645
um, apex moment of the album. I think

1288
00:52:04,265 --> 00:52:07,445
The moment that you speak Chopping the wood again.

1289
00:52:07,465 --> 00:52:09,165
Oh, chopping. Chopping the hell out of that

1290
00:52:09,165 --> 00:52:13,045
Wood Sassy.

1291
00:52:13,185 --> 00:52:15,005
The saxophones are playing sassy.

1292
00:52:15,155 --> 00:52:16,245
Just like a big

1293
00:52:17,255 --> 00:52:18,255
Sassy saxy. Okay. My

1294
00:52:18,255 --> 00:52:19,965
apex moment is from this

1295
00:52:19,965 --> 00:52:21,325
bridge all the way to the end.

1296
00:52:22,505 --> 00:52:24,245
We are just, he starts building

1297
00:52:24,955 --> 00:52:28,645
Tots, tots Running around the,

1298
00:52:29,105 --> 00:52:30,325
And the way they set up this last

1299
00:52:30,425 --> 00:52:32,965
Snatch it up, all those forget me.

1300
00:52:36,275 --> 00:52:40,085
Make young, you make me feel There are songs

1301
00:52:40,185 --> 00:52:42,965
to these song like of bes to be rung

1302
00:52:43,745 --> 00:52:45,325
and a wonderful fling to be.

1303
00:52:47,865 --> 00:52:49,445
And even When I'm old

1304
00:52:49,585 --> 00:52:53,045
and I'm gonna do,

1305
00:52:57,185 --> 00:52:59,685
you make, so

1306
00:53:11,225 --> 00:53:11,445
So

1307
00:53:21,425 --> 00:53:23,365
Get The shell on, come on, run into it, man.

1308
00:53:23,545 --> 00:53:25,045
Get into the casino. Go start gambling. Gambling.

1309
00:53:25,235 --> 00:53:26,645
I'll tell you what I know. To me that's like,

1310
00:53:26,645 --> 00:53:27,765
there's a bunch of moments like that.

1311
00:53:27,785 --> 00:53:28,805
But to me that's the one.

1312
00:53:28,805 --> 00:53:30,925
You know, I'll tell you what, there's not many times

1313
00:53:31,015 --> 00:53:33,645
where like I want to be anything other than a pianist.

1314
00:53:33,725 --> 00:53:35,005
I love playing the piano. Yeah.

1315
00:53:35,045 --> 00:53:36,765
I think it's the king of all instruments. Yeah.

1316
00:53:36,945 --> 00:53:38,525
But when I listen to that,

1317
00:53:38,765 --> 00:53:40,485
I wish I could play drums in a band like that.

1318
00:53:40,765 --> 00:53:42,885
I wish I could play. Just like, just like

1319
00:53:43,625 --> 00:53:45,405
You, you, you're, you're, you're the driver.

1320
00:53:45,665 --> 00:53:47,485
You're driving. It would, I mean it's like Frank's driving

1321
00:53:47,485 --> 00:53:49,805
it, but Sonny's kind of actually driving it.

1322
00:53:49,965 --> 00:53:52,965
Yeah. To to be Sonny Payne on that track would be like,

1323
00:53:53,305 --> 00:53:54,525
it has to feel amazing.

1324
00:53:54,665 --> 00:53:55,845
Oh man. You know what I mean? Nothing like it.

1325
00:53:55,845 --> 00:53:57,565
Nothing like it. Cool. Yeah. So that's my apex moment.

1326
00:53:57,565 --> 00:53:58,685
That's your desert island track.

1327
00:53:58,785 --> 00:54:01,245
My desert island track is actually come fly with me. Oh.

1328
00:54:01,395 --> 00:54:02,645
It's just, I mean, you know,

1329
00:54:02,675 --> 00:54:04,965
it's the iconic, it's, it's everything. What's

1330
00:54:04,965 --> 00:54:05,965
Your apex moment? So my apex moment

1331
00:54:05,965 --> 00:54:07,405
happens at at one minute

1332
00:54:07,425 --> 00:54:10,245
and 11 seconds of All of Me, which is an instrumental.

1333
00:54:10,355 --> 00:54:12,445
It's the next track on the album actually. Yes.

1334
00:54:12,625 --> 00:54:15,565
Uh, all of me classic standard written in 1931

1335
00:54:15,565 --> 00:54:17,205
by Gerald Marks and Seymour Simons

1336
00:54:17,985 --> 00:54:22,885
and Basie plays in some beautiful stuff on the entire track

1337
00:54:23,145 --> 00:54:24,405
and, and actually starts with melody.

1338
00:54:24,405 --> 00:54:25,805
We can listen to the whole thing up

1339
00:54:25,805 --> 00:54:26,885
until the, the one that break.

1340
00:54:26,885 --> 00:54:28,405
Wow. I'll start kind of in the middle 'cause we're

1341
00:54:29,025 --> 00:54:31,725
But the horn 32nd, the horn chorus that happens

1342
00:54:31,725 --> 00:54:34,045
after Basie states the first chorus of melody.

1343
00:54:34,075 --> 00:54:35,075
Yeah.

1344
00:54:38,785 --> 00:54:40,845
Woo. That's tight.

1345
00:54:42,905 --> 00:54:43,925
Why people talking man,

1346
00:54:44,585 --> 00:54:46,125
Now they're laughing because of that.

1347
00:54:49,065 --> 00:54:53,445
Woo. Counterpoint. Much count.

1348
00:54:56,465 --> 00:54:58,085
But you're right. People are mingling right now.

1349
00:54:58,235 --> 00:54:58,525
Yeah.

1350
00:55:08,135 --> 00:55:08,645
Right here.

1351
00:55:14,585 --> 00:55:14,805
Ah,

1352
00:55:20,355 --> 00:55:22,205
This is Quincy Jones at his finest career.

1353
00:55:22,315 --> 00:55:22,605
Yeah.

1354
00:55:39,035 --> 00:55:40,035
Back to basic.

1355
00:55:42,465 --> 00:55:45,165
So again, The line is going to whatever colors.

1356
00:55:45,435 --> 00:55:48,805
Yeah. The Arranger Quincy Jones is dictating

1357
00:55:48,905 --> 00:55:50,885
and it moves us emotionally in this way.

1358
00:55:50,885 --> 00:55:51,885
That's

1359
00:55:53,715 --> 00:55:54,715
That. Laying back on

1360
00:55:54,715 --> 00:55:55,045
that

1361
00:55:58,625 --> 00:55:59,625
Woo. I told

1362
00:55:59,625 --> 00:55:59,925
you.

1363
00:56:04,765 --> 00:56:05,245
Slutty pound.

1364
00:56:05,585 --> 00:56:08,485
That's it. Oh it's all good. The whole track is killing.

1365
00:56:08,505 --> 00:56:10,925
But that, that little horn chorus that happens in there,

1366
00:56:11,045 --> 00:56:13,285
I think is some of the best arranging on the whole album.

1367
00:56:13,985 --> 00:56:16,405
And it's great. Just, just beautiful to listen to

1368
00:56:17,165 --> 00:56:19,485
Quincy weave the melody through all

1369
00:56:19,485 --> 00:56:21,525
of the different sections and all these different dynamics,

1370
00:56:21,525 --> 00:56:25,045
all these different, uh, textures.

1371
00:56:25,045 --> 00:56:26,765
Just a real genius.

1372
00:56:27,185 --> 00:56:28,925
That's so great. So I've got that.

1373
00:56:28,995 --> 00:56:30,085
Okay, so I gotta fill this in.

1374
00:56:30,085 --> 00:56:32,045
I got a kind of secondary apex moment too.

1375
00:56:32,325 --> 00:56:33,885
I fell back 'cause Frank's not even on the,

1376
00:56:33,885 --> 00:56:36,005
this is making Whoopi another instrumental

1377
00:56:36,185 --> 00:56:38,765
but Al Grace plunger solo on this.

1378
00:56:44,445 --> 00:56:45,445
I am gonna play the beginning then I'll make

1379
00:56:45,445 --> 00:56:46,765
That I kind of steal the record a little bit.

1380
00:56:46,845 --> 00:56:47,925
A little bit sometimes. Or

1381
00:56:47,925 --> 00:56:48,925
Harry Sweet Edison.

1382
00:56:54,185 --> 00:56:57,645
Woo. I think Sonny Payne stole the record.

1383
00:56:58,295 --> 00:56:58,925
Sonny Payne,

1384
00:57:04,115 --> 00:57:04,805
Freddie Gray,

1385
00:57:11,065 --> 00:57:13,045
the cl they're clearing off the prime rib.

1386
00:57:13,715 --> 00:57:14,715
Yeah.

1387
00:57:18,435 --> 00:57:21,165
Dessert was definitely covered in gelatin of some kind.

1388
00:57:23,785 --> 00:57:26,765
FTC yellow number seven. Exactly.

1389
00:57:28,305 --> 00:57:29,485
Man Qs riding On this.

1390
00:57:29,605 --> 00:57:30,965
A lot of cigarette cases in the house.

1391
00:57:38,025 --> 00:57:40,005
So I gotta jump to end 'cause this is a long track.

1392
00:57:40,225 --> 00:57:43,205
But man, what they do at the end, this is,

1393
00:57:59,995 --> 00:58:01,645
this is some of the best pl plunger.

1394
00:58:02,795 --> 00:58:06,365
It's an actual plunger with the bell of the trombone.

1395
00:58:07,565 --> 00:58:09,045
I know. People are like, whatcha talking about plunger?

1396
00:58:10,315 --> 00:58:11,165
It's this right here.

1397
00:58:35,465 --> 00:58:36,465
And the riding here.

1398
00:58:47,515 --> 00:58:47,805
Yeah.

1399
00:59:02,145 --> 00:59:04,325
Really? That's pretty good. That's pretty good. That's

1400
00:59:04,325 --> 00:59:05,325
Pretty good. What about a bespoke playlist?

1401
00:59:05,325 --> 00:59:05,925
Peter, do you have anything?

1402
00:59:05,925 --> 00:59:07,885
Because I, I've got a good one. I think I got

1403
00:59:07,885 --> 00:59:09,045
Jazz meets the Slots.

1404
00:59:09,275 --> 00:59:11,125
Jazz meets the slots. Careful there swinging

1405
00:59:11,125 --> 00:59:12,125
At the slots. Uh,

1406
00:59:12,125 --> 00:59:13,965
I have Vegas, baby Vegas.

1407
00:59:14,415 --> 00:59:16,845
Vegas, baby Vegas. I like it. I like it.

1408
00:59:17,265 --> 00:59:19,005
Um, now you said we're not quibble bidding

1409
00:59:19,125 --> 00:59:20,125
Anything here. So instead of qui,

1410
00:59:20,125 --> 00:59:21,285
qui quibble bits, because I

1411
00:59:21,285 --> 00:59:23,205
Can quibble bit some of the, So we may

1412
00:59:23,205 --> 00:59:24,365
or may not have stole some of the spoken words,

1413
00:59:24,605 --> 00:59:26,125
quibble bits from the Great Movie podcast.

1414
00:59:26,305 --> 00:59:27,405
The re watchable. Never heard of that.

1415
00:59:27,405 --> 00:59:29,005
I thought we would heard of it. A category,

1416
00:59:29,005 --> 00:59:30,565
which is what's h the worst?

1417
00:59:31,825 --> 00:59:35,405
Oh, Some of the commentary is, yeah.

1418
00:59:35,545 --> 00:59:36,765
Is blue, it goes a little blue.

1419
00:59:36,905 --> 00:59:38,285
Not terrible. It's not like the

1420
00:59:38,365 --> 00:59:39,365
T break. I mean, you're

1421
00:59:39,365 --> 00:59:40,245
talking about what track

1422
00:59:40,265 --> 00:59:41,605
or what, what element

1423
00:59:41,665 --> 00:59:42,665
In General? Yeah, so

1424
00:59:42,665 --> 00:59:43,365
I think like

1425
00:59:43,705 --> 00:59:45,005
The talking during the

1426
00:59:45,005 --> 00:59:46,445
instrumentals age, the works for me.

1427
00:59:46,475 --> 00:59:47,765
Yeah. That has not age. Yeah,

1428
00:59:47,765 --> 00:59:48,765
For sure. Um, but

1429
00:59:48,765 --> 00:59:49,565
I mean, I think in terms

1430
00:59:49,565 --> 00:59:53,005
of like the playing the vocal, I mean, man, this stuff is,

1431
00:59:53,355 --> 00:59:57,785
it's very, it's different like aging versus like,

1432
00:59:57,785 --> 00:59:59,585
this definitely sets it at a certain

1433
00:59:59,585 --> 01:00:00,785
time, like from the beginning.

1434
01:00:00,785 --> 01:00:02,505
Yeah. Like it's a place in time,

1435
01:00:02,845 --> 01:00:04,745
but it doesn't, it's not like corny.

1436
01:00:04,775 --> 01:00:07,465
It's, it's, it's of, it's 1966,

1437
01:00:07,465 --> 01:00:10,385
but it's kind of 1956 almost in a way. It

1438
01:00:10,385 --> 01:00:11,385
Is, you're Right. You, you know, it's

1439
01:00:11,385 --> 01:00:13,905
so, but it's executed so well.

1440
01:00:13,965 --> 01:00:17,985
You don't care if it was 1936 or, or 2006. Yeah.

1441
01:00:17,985 --> 01:00:19,145
Uh, it's so well done.

1442
01:00:19,165 --> 01:00:22,185
But I think the whole tea break is kind of, you know, the, I

1443
01:00:22,185 --> 01:00:23,505
Was gonna say there's some sound issues

1444
01:00:23,505 --> 01:00:25,025
that I kind of have with some of Yes. Well,

1445
01:00:25,095 --> 01:00:26,345
Like There's it

1446
01:00:26,415 --> 01:00:29,905
that has like if this was recorded today, even live.

1447
01:00:30,015 --> 01:00:32,065
Yeah, I think it would, like you could tell it's,

1448
01:00:32,065 --> 01:00:33,905
they're sounds more full in the room than

1449
01:00:33,905 --> 01:00:35,425
what we're hearing sometimes. Right.

1450
01:00:35,425 --> 01:00:37,705
And it's a little uneven, like, track to track. Agreed.

1451
01:00:37,905 --> 01:00:39,785
I I, I guess they use different sets

1452
01:00:39,785 --> 01:00:41,145
and I mean, so like, that's, that's

1453
01:00:41,145 --> 01:00:42,305
to be expected, but Yeah.

1454
01:00:42,305 --> 01:00:43,385
Mean kind of minor stuff.

1455
01:00:43,745 --> 01:00:45,625
S ter, what do you Got? I mean, I got a one,

1456
01:00:45,945 --> 01:00:48,025
I rarely go one on this, but it's gotta be a one, right?

1457
01:00:48,165 --> 01:00:49,425
I'm just, uh, shocked. That's

1458
01:00:49,425 --> 01:00:50,545
correct. What do you got? I got a three.

1459
01:00:51,455 --> 01:00:53,545
What if it's a three of my, well be a five.

1460
01:00:53,695 --> 01:00:56,185
Okay. Uh, Is it, why, why not a one? Why a three?

1461
01:00:56,185 --> 01:00:57,185
Tell me you're thinking on that.

1462
01:00:57,205 --> 01:00:58,265
Um, you know what?

1463
01:00:58,295 --> 01:01:00,985
Because I think if you're really into big band music

1464
01:01:00,985 --> 01:01:02,825
or really into Frank Sinatra, this is great.

1465
01:01:03,305 --> 01:01:05,785
I think if you're just a general populace person from

1466
01:01:05,885 --> 01:01:07,745
Peoria, Illinois who doesn't know anything about, Hey,

1467
01:01:07,745 --> 01:01:08,905
Hey, why Shade on Peoria, man,

1468
01:01:08,905 --> 01:01:09,905
Come on. No shade on Pure.

1469
01:01:09,905 --> 01:01:13,305
But if, if like, like Sinatra

1470
01:01:13,305 --> 01:01:14,745
or big band music isn't your thing.

1471
01:01:14,945 --> 01:01:17,875
I think it's a lot. This is a lot.

1472
01:01:18,505 --> 01:01:20,235
It's a, it's, we're getting hit over the head

1473
01:01:20,235 --> 01:01:21,635
with some really like Thanks.

1474
01:01:21,635 --> 01:01:23,155
Yeah. Which is cool.

1475
01:01:23,275 --> 01:01:25,275
I mean, I love it, but I, that's the only reason I got,

1476
01:01:25,375 --> 01:01:26,595
and I still think it's really accessible.

1477
01:01:26,595 --> 01:01:28,395
I think of all of this stuff. It's really great. Yeah.

1478
01:01:28,395 --> 01:01:29,635
But that's the only reason why I was thinking.

1479
01:01:30,025 --> 01:01:32,635
It's just a lot of the, you know, ring and ding ding. Yeah.

1480
01:01:32,855 --> 01:01:36,035
Is it better than kind of blue? No. No. Uh, Aku months.

1481
01:01:36,175 --> 01:01:37,755
You got a nine? I got a nine. I

1482
01:01:37,755 --> 01:01:38,755
Got a nine. I mean, and,

1483
01:01:38,755 --> 01:01:40,675
and I think a nine is a 10 at this. Where?

1484
01:01:40,675 --> 01:01:42,115
Where's the cover? You got the cover here.

1485
01:01:42,375 --> 01:01:44,155
You know, one thing I wanna point out that's interesting,

1486
01:01:44,155 --> 01:01:46,435
and look, this is on Reprise, which is Frank Sinatra.

1487
01:01:46,435 --> 01:01:48,435
That's he's chairman of the board because he's the founder

1488
01:01:48,455 --> 01:01:50,195
and CEO of Reprice.

1489
01:01:50,195 --> 01:01:51,995
That's where his, I think he originally got his name,

1490
01:01:52,415 --> 01:01:54,595
but, um, no, no. The actual cover.

1491
01:01:54,715 --> 01:01:55,715
I don't have The actual cover. Okay.

1492
01:01:55,715 --> 01:01:57,235
We don't have the actual cover. What are we doing here?

1493
01:01:57,335 --> 01:01:59,355
Oh, here it is. Sorry. Interesting thing

1494
01:01:59,355 --> 01:02:00,635
about this and we'll show. So,

1495
01:02:00,635 --> 01:02:02,995
So was the cover, uh, printed out black and white?

1496
01:02:03,335 --> 01:02:05,035
Pdf f Yes. I couldn't, I didn't know if we had any colored

1497
01:02:05,035 --> 01:02:06,035
to toner back there,

1498
01:02:06,415 --> 01:02:10,075
but, um, no basses in the foreground, which is like,

1499
01:02:10,075 --> 01:02:11,115
I love the composition of

1500
01:02:11,115 --> 01:02:11,915
This. Yeah, it's a beautiful picture.

1501
01:02:12,015 --> 01:02:12,955
But I mean, shout out to,

1502
01:02:13,015 --> 01:02:14,275
I'm assuming Frank Sinatra had some,

1503
01:02:14,275 --> 01:02:15,915
We'll have Caleb put up the actual cover, but Yeah.

1504
01:02:15,985 --> 01:02:17,955
Yeah. Had some, but it'd be very easy for it just

1505
01:02:17,955 --> 01:02:21,405
to be Sinatra and like of course Basie was, you know,

1506
01:02:21,505 --> 01:02:22,965
not a household name like Sinatra.

1507
01:02:22,965 --> 01:02:24,725
I mean, he's famous and he's known. Yeah.

1508
01:02:24,725 --> 01:02:26,485
But a little bit of like, you know, Sinatra,

1509
01:02:26,485 --> 01:02:28,765
like really literally sharing the spotlight.

1510
01:02:28,995 --> 01:02:31,045
Yeah. With Count Basie, which is great. Yeah. Awesome.

1511
01:02:31,065 --> 01:02:32,045
And Count Basie Orchestra

1512
01:02:32,075 --> 01:02:33,685
arranging conducted by Quincy Jones.

1513
01:02:33,685 --> 01:02:35,085
Great. Incredible topography.

1514
01:02:35,745 --> 01:02:37,605
Up next, what do you got? Uh, next?

1515
01:02:37,845 --> 01:02:39,365
I mean, I got, uh, we talked about Bennett

1516
01:02:39,385 --> 01:02:41,525
and Basie strike up the band 1959.

1517
01:02:41,525 --> 01:02:43,485
Very cool. It was also called Basie Swings.

1518
01:02:43,485 --> 01:02:45,205
Basie sings a great record and they did another one called

1519
01:02:45,225 --> 01:02:47,325
In Person that I'm not as familiar with, same year.

1520
01:02:47,325 --> 01:02:48,725
But it's really great stuff too.

1521
01:02:48,995 --> 01:02:50,405
I've got, uh, atomic Basie,

1522
01:02:50,875 --> 01:02:53,805
just another swing in Basie album. You like how Basie?

1523
01:02:53,965 --> 01:02:55,485
I Do like Count Basie quite a lot,

1524
01:02:55,865 --> 01:02:56,885
but Atomic Basie is great.

1525
01:02:56,885 --> 01:02:58,805
Peter, um, why don't you read this off?

1526
01:02:59,545 --> 01:03:00,725
Um, I'm Peter Martin.

1527
01:03:00,745 --> 01:03:02,605
And we wanna say thank you to our producer, editor,

1528
01:03:02,745 --> 01:03:05,205
and drummer, Kaleb Kirby. Sound engineer,

1529
01:03:05,425 --> 01:03:06,965
Sam Maul. Videographer

1530
01:03:07,185 --> 01:03:11,085
Andrew Steven, his government name. Designer Ian Martin,

1531
01:03:11,405 --> 01:03:12,405
producer Liz Hames.

1532
01:03:12,735 --> 01:03:14,165
Shout out and thank you to all these folks

1533
01:03:14,425 --> 01:03:17,045
and thank you to Bob DeBoo on base.

1534
01:03:17,745 --> 01:03:20,445
And, uh, next week it is our season finale.

1535
01:03:20,445 --> 01:03:22,085
We're finally doing it. Peter, what are we doing?

1536
01:03:22,085 --> 01:03:23,125
Prince? Woo.

1537
01:03:23,455 --> 01:03:24,925
Until next time, you'll Hear it.