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Angry customers, customer complaints,
they are brutal to deal with.

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And the worst part is they
are completely inevitable,

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meaning they are going to have.

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No matter what.

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And sometimes it's something really
small, like a shingle as it was falling

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off the roof ripped to screen, and it's
a few dollar fix and it's no big deal.

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No one's hurt or something horrible
happens like you're in the middle

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of a deck and the wind comes through
rip the tarp off and it downpours

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in the house for an hour and ruins.

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True story that I'm going to pick up
here in a second and no matter how big

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or how small these mistakes come up and
for folks like you and I, who truly care

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about our customers, want to give an
amazing experience we're in this, not

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only to make a good living, but because
we believe in what we do, we believe

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in delivering exceptional service.

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This stuff sometimes hits home and
it's hard to cope with, especially

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for newer sales reps or growing teams.

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And they distract us.

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And we often, especially
newer salespeople, like

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really freak out as a crew.

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So in this video, I'm going to be teaching
you how to deal with it when it comes up.

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So you can turn those into five star
reviews, true story coming very soon.

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And the other thing I want to
teach you is how to prevent

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this so welcome or welcome back.

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We are about to get, move into first.

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I want to say, I'm really
glad to have you here.

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My name is Adam Benjamin, the roof
strategist, and everything I do here

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is designed to help you and your
team smash your income goal and give

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every customer an amazing experience.

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And yeah, customer complaints come up.

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Things don't always go, right.

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But when you handle it the right way,
It can create an amazing experience and

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funny enough, it's how we handle it.

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That sets us apart.

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Like the story I told the other
day, my wife, Sheena and I

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were shopping for a vehicle.

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We had a horrible experience
at this car dealership.

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We found the vehicle that we wanted.

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We went down there, we looked
at it, it was a used vehicle.

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We looked at.

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It was filthy nothing like the
pictures, Paul, the sales sales rep.

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I'm like, Paul, you
completely wasted my time.

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We just drove an hour
and a half to get here.

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This vehicles in horrendous
condition, I'm not interested.

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Every other vehicle is pristine.

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This thing looks like a
dog had a heyday in here.

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So we go to leave and they say, wait,
wait, give us an hour, go out to lunch.

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We're going to get it cleaned up for you.

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And then you let us know.

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I said, okay.

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So we go out to lunch for an hour.

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We come back.

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I swear.

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It was like a slap.

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They didn't care.

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They burned our time.

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I said, Paul, you just,
we came down already.

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You had to spend more time.

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This is an insult.

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And then I shared the experience in the
last vehicle we bought at their competing

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dealership in Paul felt horrible Sheena.

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And I stormed around that building.

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We didn't even walk through the dealer.

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We're coming out the front door,
Paul flies out the sales rep,

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the sales man, and he starts
apologizing and he took ownership

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and I called him 15 minutes later.

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He called with a sincere apology.

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He was committed to making
it right, and guess what?

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He went above and beyond.

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And the very next.

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We went from a complete 180 from not
wanting to do business with them at all,

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wanting to write them off, wanting to
write them a horrible review, to not

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only buying the vehicle, being very
happy with the experience of how they

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handled it and what they did for us.

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And I even ended up writing
them a five-star review,

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acknowledging what didn't go.

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Right.

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But how they were committed
to making it right.

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And that's the power of handling.

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The right way by taking ownership in
laying out a clear path forward, which

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I'll be sharing with you here today.

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Now, before we get any further.

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And before I share that story with you
about that house that got poured in for

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over an hour, I just want to say that
if you haven't yet done it, you need the

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click, the description and, or go over
to the roof, strategist.com right now,

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There's a whole bunch in there even more
than what's available on YouTube and

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an easier way to digest all that info.

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So go on over to the roof, strategist.com
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And if you're on YouTube,
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Beautiful shiny mug.

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You are click the video
description, by the way.

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Click the video description.

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There's a link right in there.

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It's the top link and you'll be all set.

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All right.

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So customer complaints first
we've covered the facts.

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They are inevitable.

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They're going to happen.

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Now we're going to cover step one, which
is how to prevent them from happening.

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And then we're going to move into step
two, which is how to overcome them.

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But first a story.

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Here's a story.

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I'm three hours away.

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One of our reps name is
Joe doing this house.

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It was an old Victorian style
home, two stories, uh, multiple

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layers shingles on top of shake,
which required what a recheck.

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So we're in the middle of the decking.

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There's no weird weather
in the news by the way.

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So crew is got everything torn off.

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No decking whatsoever.

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All of a sudden they see
rain clouds coming in.

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So they tarp everything.

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Okay.

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Wind kicks up.

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They're like, oh no, this ain't good.

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So they're on ladders.

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Two stories up trying to
get this tarp to stay down.

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Boom, crack lightning strikes.

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They can't be on ladders
in a lightening storm.

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They scrambled down go to their
truck in the skies, open up with

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a fury of rain for about an hour,
straight to a home with no tarp on it.

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And.

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And to add insult to injury, not
only was the main floor wood floor.

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So as the second floor, I get
a phone call, my phone rings.

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It was the hardest phone call.

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I've gotten business
actually second hardest.

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And I hear this homeowner and
I'm like, Hey, I I'm hearing all

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this noise in the background.

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I'm hearing smoke detectors,
Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt.

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And he says, Adam, I
think you need to get out.

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And I said, yeah, what's going on?

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He says, well, we've got water
pouring through the house.

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Absolutely everywhere.

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The roof torn off and it's down pouring
rain and everything is drenched.

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And I am freaking out.

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This is how the story starts
fast forward into what.

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I just told you, but the part that's,
the real challenge was the fact that

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those hardwood floors on the second
floor, along with the hardwood floors

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on the first floor were warped.

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Every single surface of that home was wet.

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We had to move these homeowners out
of their house for six to eight weeks.

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I can't recall if it was six or eight
weeks, we had to bring in dehumidifiers.

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We had to hire a restoration company.

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We had to do the dry out.

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We had to repaint.

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We had to refinish the.

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And guess what, there
was not one legal threat.

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I had received a letter of
recommendation from this homeowner

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because of how we handled the project.

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And they stated that they would
never hesitate to hire us again

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in the future, or refer a friend
because of our commitment to standing

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behind what we do, because they
realized it was a freak accident.

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This is what you're
going to learn right now.

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Now let's get to step number one.

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Preventing these complaints.

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This is by setting what I'm going
to call realistic expectations.

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You know, we had a conversation
about this and the pitch pro

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movement, and I said the class.

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Under promise and over deliver.

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And Marcos was saying, you know,
I really don't like that under

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promise and over deliver because
why should we under promise?

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We should just give amazing service and
deliver promise at a really high level

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and then deliver above and beyond that.

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And I got to say, Marcos,
I appreciate that, man.

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He, you challenged me and that's
the beauty of the movement.

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We don't always have
to disagree by the way.

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That's why there's five mentors.

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In there.

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And that's why we have a
discussion board and why we

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encourage everyone to participate.

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So the core concept of under promise
and over deliver is not to do this.

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Mr.

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Homeowner, I'm going to make sure
everything goes off perfectly.

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Nothing is going to go wrong.

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We're going to start on time.

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We're going to end on time and
you're going to have zero complaints.

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Well, let me tell you this.

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My friend is a lie.

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And even though you mean it with your
greatest intent, you can't control it.

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You can't control the material delivery.

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You can't control.

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Excuse me.

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If the supplier even shows
up at the right house.

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Yep.

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Have that one happen.

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Ended up tearing off the wrong roof once.

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Cause the supplier dropped the
shingles in the wrong spot.

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Crew shows up, sees the
bundle, didn't check.

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Anything was in a rush up on the roof,
tearing it off bad things can happen

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and there's things beyond your control.

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So instead, what we want to
do is under promise or promise

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really high, but the main thing
is to deliver at an even higher.

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And here is what I recommend for you.

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And especially for every
single new sales rep.

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I like to explain to that homeowner
that something likely will go.

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And the reason for that is a bundle
of shingles, about 80 pounds, three

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square to a bundle start new in the
maths, about 240 a square times.

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However many squares the roof are,
is usually multiple tons of shingles,

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which doesn't include the hundreds of
nails or the felt or anything else.

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And I explained to the homeowner,
Hey, Peggy, guess what?

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We are going to do the absolute
very best we can to protect your

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home and to take care of you.

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That being said, there are.

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Tons of debris going up on the
roof and coming off the roof.

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And there is a chance, despite is careful
as we can be in doing thousands of roofs.

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We might have something
that doesn't go right.

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And I don't want you to panic.

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And the reason I say that is I
am committed and our company is

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committed to making it right.

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So if you see anything, you've got
my card, I want you to call me right.

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Y.

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So I'm aware of it and I can put together
an action plan to get it addressed.

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Now this doesn't happen on every job,
many jobs go off without a hitch.

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But if it does, I just want you to
know we have your back now let's pause.

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This was step one, setting these
realistic expectations this way.

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You've under promise.

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If the job goes great, they are
going to be blown away because

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you did better than they expect.

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What's the best review ever
better than expected not.

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They told me they do this.

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And didn't, that's the number one
thing you hear with complaints

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that I've filed through on my word?

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Yes or no.

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No, but this way you can, you want
to set realistic expectations,

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tell them something can go
wrong and then over deliver.

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And number two is if or when
something occurs, do you think

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that homeowner is going to panic?

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No, there can be like Adam
told me this might happen.

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I'm upset.

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I'm pissed at my flowers.

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I'm upset that the screen's ripped,
but Adam said, he'd take care of it.

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We're going to give him a shot.

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I don't need.

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And now when you get that phone
call, it's not hysteria and I, okay.

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It's people, it could be, but you're
going to be in a way better position

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than if you said nothing at all.

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So biggest takeaway today.

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So far in this video, before we proceed
is do what set realistic expectations,

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which leads us right into point number
two, which is how to overcome this.

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Let's lay the foundation.

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And then I want to tell you a
story and give you a framework, the

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foundation, number one, we need to
listen and we need to truly listen.

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Okay.

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What do I mean by listen, pay attention.

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When homeowners yell at you,
you need to let him get it.

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They just need to get it out.

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So just shut up.

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Let them get it out.

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Okay.

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Wait until they run out of breath.

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I don't care how long it takes.

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This is how you show you.

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Listen, you don't want to
be like, no, no, no, no.

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Don't don't don't don't worry.

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Don't worry.

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Don't worry.

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We're going to take, take care of it.

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Don't do that.

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Let them yell.

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Let them call you all
the names in the book.

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Believe me.

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They're kind of like puppy dogs
that have sat in a cage too long.

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They just got to get it out.

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I think I just messed my hair up.

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Well, I messed my hair up.

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That's cool.

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All right.

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So first we need to listen.

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Then you need to care by the way,
if you don't have a heart and you

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don't truly care, I just got to
tell you now is a really good time

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for you to exit this business.

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Why?

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Because if you don't care about
your customers and you're only in

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this for the money that will come
back to bite you, you need to have

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a heart, at least in my opinion.

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And at least the people like you, who are.

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This is the kind of people who truly
care about the customer experience.

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They need to feel that.

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And then the last thing you need to do is
to commit to an action plan, all right.

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Commit to fixing it and how
you're going to do that.

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Okay.

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So this is the foundation.

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Now the story I was going to tell you,
when I, which I teach by the way, in my

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all-in-one sales training, sales strategy
and sales system, which is a current.

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System from knock to close for both sermon
retail being used by thousands of reps

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across the U S we're, even in Canada
and Australia for both storm and retail.

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And this system teaches the aro
objection, handling formula, which

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by the way, the last two private
trainings I ran, the number one rating

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feedback was the objection handling.

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And the objection handling for me that I
teach in there was founded and I created.

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By bad customer experiences, the
aro acknowledged reassure overcome.

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And I learned if it can work to diffuse
these crazy situations, it'll work

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really well for a simple objection.

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And that again is acknowledged reassure,
overcome a R O and I want to show

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you how to apply this on a customer
service level, a stands for acknowledge.

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So let's give.

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Okay.

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Uh, I want to use the example, the
true life example of this customer.

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We're going to call her Peggy
who's tarp ripped off rain in the

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house destroyed the home caused.

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I think it was almost $80,000,
$75,000 for the damage they had to

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be relocated and it was a nightmare.

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And first thing I did
was acknowledge Peggy.

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Oh my gosh.

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I do not blame you for being mad.

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This is a horrible situation.

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Your roof is not there.

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There's water everywhere.

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And if I were you, I would be.

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Then, by the way, we're going to reassure,
I'm breaking this down in a second,

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reassure Peggy, no matter what it takes,
we are going to make this right for you.

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You will be comfortable as
comfortable as possible.

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And I hope that you're in as good
or better condition when we're done.

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And then I over.

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Okay, so overcome Peggy.

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Here's what we're going to do.

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This is where I made the commitment.

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And then I did the most important thing,
which is I followed up on it and I

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set those expectations for next steps.

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By following this aro formula,
what you want to do first again?

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I told you I'd break it down first.

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We want to acknowledge simply repeat back.

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All right.

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So what I'm hearing is you're
really upset because we started,

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like, what I'm hearing is.

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We have a flat tire and the dealership
telling you, you need four tires.

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Cause it's a BMW and they don't
want one and it's all wheel drive.

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So just acknowledge, reassure your
commitment to making things right.

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And then we can overcome
by making that commitment.

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Now, one other thing that I want
to share with you is often ask.

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So when we overcome, there's
a really powerful, we can ask

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homeowners, how can I make this?

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Right.

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Oftentimes their first.

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Response to you is going to be a
lot less than you think, and it

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might even be more advantageous
to you, but it doesn't matter.

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It's what they want and give them
the opportunity to lay that path out.

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So how can I make this right?

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They're just going to say, I
don't care about the money.

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All I want.

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Is this done?

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The comfort?

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I don't care about anything.

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I just want four new tires.

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I don't care about anything.

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I just want to a 60 bucks to go buy
a new Rose Bush, whatever it is.

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So.

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Ask them how you can make it right.

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If you can fulfill upon that promise,
say, this is what I'm going to do next.

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I can't make this decision, but what
I'm going to do right now is call up

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the owner, my manager, whoever it is and
ask if we can get this done and find a

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solution for you, what you can expect
from me again, this is the follow-up.

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X Y and Z, once we call them
here, she's going to come out or

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I'm going to call you right back.

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When we follow this framework
that we use this negotiation to

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ask, how can I make this right?

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First?

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They.

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Before you, and we'll give you the answer
of, if you can do this with this solve

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the problem, we're using sales in a way.

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So I want to give you an example,
a different example, customer

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calls up another true story.

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The rare Bush that was in the
front of the house was, was ruined.

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There was a tarp that, that ended up
getting debris and then it squished it.

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And this woman was
really upset by the way.

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I don't blame her.

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I love my landscaping.

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And if I had a really rare Bush and it
was big into that stuff, I'd be pest.

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So when she called, I said, yeah,
we're going to call her Peggy to.

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No, we'll call her.

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Carla.

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Carla is a good one for tonight.

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By the way, maybe this'll be a new thing.

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We're going to have carloads now.

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So, Carla, I'm really sorry
that we squished your Bush and,

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ah, right.

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We gotta, we got to cut that part out.

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Now.

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We're going to leave it in.

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We're really sorry that we
squished your very rare shrub.

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Is that better?

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We're very sorry that we fit.

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We squished.

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You're very rare shrub and.

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I want you to know I'm reassuring
now that we will do whatever it

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takes to make this right for you.

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This is your property
and this shouldn't be.

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Overcome, how can I
make this right for you?

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And then Carla, who's Bush Weezer.

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Squash is going to call me up and
say, all I need is I need to go

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to this one store where they sell
these rare plants and they're 120

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bucks or 60 bucks, whatever it is.

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And I just want to get
a new one and plant it.

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And I'm like great, $120 for a
plant, whatever we can be done.

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Things happen cost of doing business.

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So I can say, Hey, Carla, if.

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Approve a credit or either on your
account or get you a gift card.

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Would that put you at ease and
get this problem solved for you?

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And then Carla is going
to say, yes, it does.

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And then I'm going to make
that commitment, Carlos.

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Great.

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Here's what I'm going to do next.

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And I tell her what's going to happen.

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And then I follow through upon that
commitment and following this framework,

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your customers are going to feel
heard, cared for and know that you

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have their best interest at heart.

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And now my friend.

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Are armed with a very
simple strategy, two steps.

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Number one is setting those expectations.

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So when things come
up, people don't panic.

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And then number two is a very
simple framework to follow.

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And the key question to
ask, should it come up?

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So now I want to ask you.

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What other topics do you want me
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