1 00:00:01,939 --> 00:00:05,684 Welcome to Plans Are Booked, a podcast for every reader. 2 00:00:05,684 --> 00:00:06,885 I'm Molly Geller. 3 00:00:07,371 --> 00:00:08,872 I'm Stephanie Blackburn. 4 00:00:10,153 --> 00:00:15,597 And I'm Caitlin Madison and we can finally talk about the trailer of the idea of the 5 00:00:15,597 --> 00:00:17,457 idea of 6 00:00:17,457 --> 00:00:21,441 watched it like eight hours ago and these bitches would not let me talk about it all 7 00:00:21,441 --> 00:00:24,343 day until we got to the podcast. 8 00:00:24,444 --> 00:00:26,866 So now we're finally doing it. 9 00:00:26,866 --> 00:00:28,627 Hallelujah. 10 00:00:33,099 --> 00:00:37,024 I already have the first single on my phone. 11 00:00:37,024 --> 00:00:44,329 when I saw that they were doing music, yeah, when I saw that they were doing 12 00:00:44,329 --> 00:00:46,887 music, a lot Daisy Jones in the six, I was like, 13 00:00:46,887 --> 00:00:52,588 I bet you Stephanie Iber is gonna win because she already hit solo catcher card. 14 00:00:52,588 --> 00:00:54,589 Didn't even know it was a thing. 15 00:00:54,589 --> 00:00:55,349 Wow. 16 00:00:55,349 --> 00:00:58,910 It's a full album. 17 00:00:58,910 --> 00:00:59,990 Let's wrap it up for the people, okay? 18 00:00:59,990 --> 00:01:01,031 We're came in at the bottom. 19 00:01:01,031 --> 00:01:01,511 Let's call it a day. 20 00:01:01,511 --> 00:01:02,591 We set up for the 20th. 21 00:01:05,012 --> 00:01:05,892 Woo woo! 22 00:01:05,892 --> 00:01:06,852 Our plans are pumped. 23 00:01:06,852 --> 00:01:07,732 20th. 24 00:01:07,732 --> 00:01:09,033 Thank you, 20th. 25 00:01:09,173 --> 00:01:12,734 Thank you to everyone who has been listening and liking and sharing and 26 00:01:12,734 --> 00:01:13,434 reading our news. 27 00:01:13,434 --> 00:01:15,634 We are so, so grateful to you. 28 00:01:15,881 --> 00:01:16,121 to do this. 29 00:01:16,121 --> 00:01:16,449 And we. 30 00:01:16,449 --> 00:01:22,034 a packed conversation for you today, starting with the Idea of You movie 31 00:01:22,034 --> 00:01:22,394 trailer. 32 00:01:22,394 --> 00:01:23,295 I'm, yes, I'm sorry that I march in. 33 00:01:23,295 --> 00:01:26,957 This is how it goes. 34 00:01:27,033 --> 00:01:29,314 This is how I feel about it. 35 00:01:29,314 --> 00:01:30,655 The trailer came out. 36 00:01:30,655 --> 00:01:32,115 Nicholas Balatsean... 37 00:01:32,776 --> 00:01:33,896 I'm sorry. 38 00:01:34,317 --> 00:01:35,837 I don't mean to, like... 39 00:01:37,038 --> 00:01:38,919 That's what I'm looking for. 40 00:01:38,919 --> 00:01:41,120 Degreed him, basically. 41 00:01:41,180 --> 00:01:42,361 But, like, objectified. 42 00:01:42,361 --> 00:01:43,542 He's such a piece. 43 00:01:43,542 --> 00:01:44,802 Like, he's so... 44 00:01:44,973 --> 00:01:47,125 gorgeous in the trailer. 45 00:01:47,125 --> 00:01:48,645 He's perfect for the movie. 46 00:01:48,645 --> 00:01:49,706 Like, 100%. 47 00:01:50,507 --> 00:01:52,588 Also, we knew Anne had the way we could work. 48 00:01:52,588 --> 00:01:53,808 Like, we argued. 49 00:01:53,808 --> 00:01:55,970 But, like, Nicholas Gallatin, like... 50 00:01:55,970 --> 00:01:57,273 The app... 51 00:01:57,273 --> 00:02:01,495 accent the way they dress him, he's singing in it, and he's smothered. 52 00:02:01,495 --> 00:02:03,816 The whole thing is just ridiculous. 53 00:02:03,977 --> 00:02:08,739 So, from the go, you're like, okay, we've got something on our hands here. 54 00:02:09,180 --> 00:02:11,181 But as I'm watching the trailer... 55 00:02:11,181 --> 00:02:11,681 What time out? 56 00:02:11,681 --> 00:02:13,362 How many times have you watched it so far? 57 00:02:13,362 --> 00:02:14,083 Three times. 58 00:02:14,083 --> 00:02:15,864 Same. 59 00:02:15,864 --> 00:02:18,926 Only twice. 60 00:02:19,526 --> 00:02:26,750 So I'm just gonna say, I watched it, and I was like, this looks like such a fun 61 00:02:26,750 --> 00:02:27,590 movie. 62 00:02:28,389 --> 00:02:31,690 And the book is like not necessarily a fun book. 63 00:02:31,690 --> 00:02:33,771 Like we all know what the ending is. 64 00:02:34,411 --> 00:02:40,993 And yeah, and then I went on Twitter and people were like, people were like, this 65 00:02:40,993 --> 00:02:42,353 looks awesome. 66 00:02:42,353 --> 00:02:43,133 And 67 00:02:43,175 --> 00:02:44,376 not like the book. 68 00:02:44,376 --> 00:02:47,958 Like everybody was, everybody that went to the book was like, what is this? 69 00:02:48,038 --> 00:02:49,778 And then my friend Steph. 70 00:02:49,954 --> 00:02:54,177 who listens to my story, who listens to my story, who's been reading the book, who's 71 00:02:54,177 --> 00:02:55,934 been watching it, is like. 72 00:02:55,934 --> 00:02:59,958 halfway through the idea of you right now, because she knew it was on our list and 73 00:02:59,958 --> 00:03:01,760 she said it sounded interesting to her. 74 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,743 And she saw the trailer and she goes, they don't even meet the same way. 75 00:03:05,743 --> 00:03:08,425 In the trailer, that's already different. 76 00:03:09,065 --> 00:03:14,528 like the daughter is the one that's going to be in the movie I will say we don't 77 00:03:14,528 --> 00:03:18,910 necessarily know what the movie is going to be like because of the trailer 78 00:03:19,183 --> 00:03:25,206 Trailers can be misleading, but on that same token, the book is all about the 79 00:03:25,206 --> 00:03:30,109 secrecy, the hiding, the like not telling the daughter, trying to figure out how 80 00:03:30,109 --> 00:03:33,291 she's going to tell the daughter, putting off telling the daughter, hiding from 81 00:03:33,291 --> 00:03:38,534 paparazzi, and instead in the trailer, the paparazzi are there from the get-go. 82 00:03:38,872 --> 00:03:40,212 That is correct. 83 00:03:40,573 --> 00:03:46,095 So people who read the book are like WTF and people who haven't read the book are 84 00:03:46,095 --> 00:03:48,076 like this looks freaking awesome. 85 00:03:48,076 --> 00:03:50,206 And there's no in between at all. 86 00:03:50,206 --> 00:03:51,247 book are like, this is pretty awesome. 87 00:03:51,247 --> 00:03:51,547 And so, I think... 88 00:03:51,547 --> 00:03:52,147 Also, her best friend is... 89 00:03:52,147 --> 00:03:53,529 I don't think she's part of it. 90 00:03:53,529 --> 00:03:58,913 If you saw the sign for the gallery, isn't the gallery's name there two last names 91 00:03:58,913 --> 00:03:59,273 together? 92 00:03:59,273 --> 00:04:00,954 Yeah, there's a name for that. 93 00:04:00,954 --> 00:04:01,915 Correct. 94 00:04:01,915 --> 00:04:03,756 And there was no image of her. 95 00:04:03,756 --> 00:04:06,738 I did not see the best friend. 96 00:04:06,863 --> 00:04:08,984 I think this is what I'm talking about. 97 00:04:08,984 --> 00:04:09,684 I... 98 00:04:09,704 --> 00:04:14,866 We have been enjoying it for years. 99 00:04:14,866 --> 00:04:15,947 It's fun to watch. 100 00:04:15,947 --> 00:04:16,187 Um, yeah. 101 00:04:16,187 --> 00:04:19,708 So I was the only one who thought of all of this. 102 00:04:19,708 --> 00:04:23,762 I was part of the whole example of this, but yes, he's gonna have to move the app. 103 00:04:23,762 --> 00:04:24,883 He said no. 104 00:04:25,263 --> 00:04:27,205 I said, okay, I didn't really know what to say. 105 00:04:27,205 --> 00:04:27,845 What am I going to say? 106 00:04:27,845 --> 00:04:28,905 Yeah, you shouldn't. 107 00:04:29,038 --> 00:04:32,200 You're a huge, that was just a weird idea. 108 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,322 So I just went back to the home, and then I decided to go back from it, and it was 109 00:04:36,322 --> 00:04:38,523 nice to do this back to the little exoriga. 110 00:04:38,944 --> 00:04:41,485 So like, I'm gonna go back in there. 111 00:04:41,485 --> 00:04:43,891 Like, maybe this should have been a good idea, or a good model. 112 00:04:43,891 --> 00:04:44,472 one had to be on the script. 113 00:04:44,472 --> 00:04:47,053 Like, we should have not been in the air in the long run, so. 114 00:04:47,053 --> 00:04:50,554 My take, I haven't watched a third time, but my take is that. 115 00:04:50,982 --> 00:04:55,124 It seems like the movie is a bit of a challenge as the only scene made. 116 00:04:55,124 --> 00:04:58,726 Like you did in the step, you come back and you're saying about the sequence with 117 00:04:58,726 --> 00:05:01,988 the secrecy and the hiding and hoping that it turns out what you're doing. 118 00:05:02,589 --> 00:05:06,290 In the trailer, it's an issue, it's the age gap. 119 00:05:06,551 --> 00:05:12,416 Not the fact that she's worried about her career and she has a family 120 00:05:12,416 --> 00:05:16,938 to center it around, which I think if that turns out to be right, is really going to 121 00:05:16,938 --> 00:05:19,038 change the whole tone of the story. 122 00:05:19,038 --> 00:05:20,218 The other thing. 123 00:05:20,418 --> 00:05:24,620 I was pretty impressed with was like, I think we're gonna have a good story and 124 00:05:24,620 --> 00:05:26,161 we're just gonna let people know. 125 00:05:26,161 --> 00:05:29,563 And even the same thing with this, and all the other stories we're gonna set up for 126 00:05:29,563 --> 00:05:30,744 people to listen to. 127 00:05:30,744 --> 00:05:33,966 When I went to the fan office, I was like, oh, this works. 128 00:05:33,966 --> 00:05:37,908 I feel excited about the idea of seeing that on screen to get a whole new world 129 00:05:37,908 --> 00:05:39,608 that it turns out to be. 130 00:05:39,849 --> 00:05:43,130 And so like, whoever's in the writers room, 131 00:05:43,489 --> 00:05:47,850 definitely was a boy band fan growing up because that piece of it seems extremely 132 00:05:47,850 --> 00:05:48,372 accurate. 133 00:05:48,372 --> 00:05:48,432 it. 134 00:05:48,432 --> 00:05:48,952 But you guys have passed. 135 00:05:48,952 --> 00:05:49,233 It's not true. 136 00:05:49,233 --> 00:05:49,953 August Moon has her own Instagram. 137 00:05:49,953 --> 00:05:50,955 I don't know if you've gone on it. 138 00:05:50,955 --> 00:05:51,175 Oh, I have. 139 00:05:51,175 --> 00:05:51,235 OK. 140 00:05:51,235 --> 00:05:53,597 Well, I think that's really good, because now, in the way that the foundation for 141 00:05:53,597 --> 00:06:01,306 this Instagram is taking them, well, it just reminds me of how much we've done. 142 00:06:01,306 --> 00:06:05,730 And, you know, I'm saying it's awesome. 143 00:06:05,730 --> 00:06:06,025 Mm-hmm. 144 00:06:06,025 --> 00:06:07,967 I want to follow every single thing they're doing. 145 00:06:07,967 --> 00:06:12,309 They treated it like it was a real band and that's obviously the same treatment 146 00:06:12,309 --> 00:06:14,770 that this is getting, which I think is freaking brilliant. 147 00:06:16,286 --> 00:06:18,127 I, yeah. 148 00:06:18,127 --> 00:06:18,787 Yep. 149 00:06:18,787 --> 00:06:23,851 Well, I'm gonna enjoy the movie and pretend that the book just never existed 150 00:06:23,851 --> 00:06:25,852 is I think how I'm gonna play it. 151 00:06:26,452 --> 00:06:29,034 I think I'll enjoy it the most that way. 152 00:06:29,234 --> 00:06:32,316 And also I was not like a super fan of the book. 153 00:06:32,316 --> 00:06:36,239 So I'm not gonna, it's not like I had my heart set on something. 154 00:06:36,239 --> 00:06:37,259 You know what I mean? 155 00:06:37,299 --> 00:06:40,681 Now, the other thing I will say is. 156 00:06:41,627 --> 00:06:44,728 I forget the person was, I should have paid more attention to give them credit, 157 00:06:44,728 --> 00:06:51,811 but somebody on Twitter was like, they repeated the trailer and they were like, 158 00:06:52,131 --> 00:06:57,714 if this trailer has the ending from the book, that's not going to work for me. 159 00:06:57,714 --> 00:07:03,457 Because this trailer seems to go on and on and if it's going to go on and on and on 160 00:07:03,457 --> 00:07:08,719 and it better be on and on and it better not somehow pivot to the ending from the 161 00:07:08,719 --> 00:07:11,220 book because that was not what it made. 162 00:07:11,681 --> 00:07:15,423 I'm going to have to go into it as them being two separate things. 163 00:07:15,644 --> 00:07:19,267 I mean, the book, I absolutely loved. 164 00:07:19,267 --> 00:07:20,388 I mean, I read it twice. 165 00:07:20,388 --> 00:07:23,650 I reread it before we recorded the episode about it. 166 00:07:24,371 --> 00:07:29,494 It broke my heart, but it was the perfect ending for the book. 167 00:07:29,555 --> 00:07:36,120 And also, I didn't picture Anne or Nicholas while I was reading the book. 168 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,549 But I think that this can be a separate thing where we can have... 169 00:07:39,549 --> 00:07:45,333 different similar points and if it deviates from the book, then that doesn't 170 00:07:45,333 --> 00:07:46,962 keep it playing in the public book. 171 00:07:46,962 --> 00:07:50,064 it helps to think of the notes inside the book. 172 00:07:50,064 --> 00:07:55,247 Because it goes to like, this is the number. 173 00:07:56,162 --> 00:07:59,185 as opposed to like this is the film version of the idea of you. 174 00:07:59,185 --> 00:08:04,069 It's like this is a movie inspired by the book The Idea of You. 175 00:08:04,069 --> 00:08:07,953 And I feel like if we approach it from that vantage point we won't be as enraged 176 00:08:07,953 --> 00:08:10,389 if they've changed like absolutely everything about it. 177 00:08:10,389 --> 00:08:14,648 I mean, I'm still planning to be home that entire first week and watch it once a day. 178 00:08:14,648 --> 00:08:15,109 by the book. 179 00:08:15,109 --> 00:08:15,309 Yeah. 180 00:08:15,309 --> 00:08:17,149 And I feel like he's going to rage it from that day because he has the variation 181 00:08:17,149 --> 00:08:18,070 which he was like absolutely over the top. 182 00:08:18,070 --> 00:08:19,891 I mean, don't plan for the whole entire first week and watch it once it ends. 183 00:08:19,891 --> 00:08:20,031 Normal. 184 00:08:20,031 --> 00:08:20,631 That sounds normal for you. 185 00:08:20,631 --> 00:08:23,532 I also, if you haven't seen Purple Hearts and you're just discovering Nicholas 186 00:08:23,532 --> 00:08:26,584 Galatine now, watch Purple Hearts because he... 187 00:08:26,584 --> 00:08:27,805 a huge hero that you know already. 188 00:08:27,805 --> 00:08:31,786 There are a few artists, he's a huge hero now. 189 00:08:31,786 --> 00:08:33,986 Yeah, perfect. 190 00:08:33,986 --> 00:08:37,627 Do you two, wait, wanna talk about his new show that you've been fan-girling over? 191 00:08:37,627 --> 00:08:41,268 Yeah, there's a lot of people. 192 00:08:41,268 --> 00:08:43,669 It's not coming out, but you asked me if I had to. 193 00:08:43,669 --> 00:08:44,429 You came up on Starz right? 194 00:08:44,429 --> 00:08:45,229 Very important. 195 00:08:45,229 --> 00:08:45,890 It's on Starz, I appreciate it. 196 00:08:45,890 --> 00:08:46,830 Is it? 197 00:08:46,830 --> 00:08:47,850 I'm gonna... 198 00:08:57,467 --> 00:09:01,490 I can look into that for you, but I, I think that I'm right, but I'm not sure. 199 00:09:01,490 --> 00:09:05,773 Um, and that's the show that he's in with Julianne Moore and it's supposed to be 200 00:09:05,773 --> 00:09:06,720 awesome and it. 201 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,280 my favorite period. 202 00:09:08,980 --> 00:09:09,274 So 203 00:09:09,274 --> 00:09:12,795 was a, I forget if it was Rolling Stone magazine or another magazine, but they 204 00:09:12,795 --> 00:09:17,376 called it, they said, Juliette Dora was delicious in it and that it's a raucous 205 00:09:17,376 --> 00:09:18,396 good time. 206 00:09:19,817 --> 00:09:21,497 Yeah, it was hilarious. 207 00:09:22,057 --> 00:09:25,378 Because she basically pimps her son out to like stay within the royal family. 208 00:09:25,378 --> 00:09:27,299 That's like the whole premise of the show. 209 00:09:27,299 --> 00:09:30,400 And she pimps him out to like other men and he's not gay. 210 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,541 And it's like, that's like the scandal and the like, so that's him. 211 00:09:34,541 --> 00:09:36,121 That's who he's playing in that one. 212 00:09:36,215 --> 00:09:41,397 what I was going to say is I can call them, either the producer or the actor 213 00:09:41,397 --> 00:09:42,018 music. 214 00:09:42,018 --> 00:09:44,049 She was the producer for a bunch of your movies. 215 00:09:44,049 --> 00:09:45,609 and a lot of her content. 216 00:09:45,970 --> 00:09:49,071 And she's now running a book tour and she posted the trailers. 217 00:09:49,071 --> 00:09:51,352 And I was like, well, you're already asking me, I don't know if you want me to 218 00:09:51,352 --> 00:09:51,952 talk to you about this. 219 00:09:51,952 --> 00:09:54,533 And this is about to be on my entire personality. 220 00:09:55,114 --> 00:09:58,035 Because I think she's like, boring as hell. 221 00:09:58,035 --> 00:09:59,861 So I wrote her a book and I would play it 222 00:09:59,861 --> 00:10:01,221 let me get bangs. 223 00:10:03,328 --> 00:10:03,828 I'm so rude. 224 00:10:03,828 --> 00:10:04,809 I feel like that's a lot. 225 00:10:04,809 --> 00:10:06,070 You know, it's really weird. 226 00:10:06,070 --> 00:10:07,511 I agree. 227 00:10:07,692 --> 00:10:10,657 And she's just like out there with fans for you. 228 00:10:10,657 --> 00:10:13,656 with this guy that like, I'm off this place. 229 00:10:13,656 --> 00:10:15,656 I'm not feeling up and out. 230 00:10:15,656 --> 00:10:19,457 We're in the college career and we're finally falling off. 231 00:10:19,457 --> 00:10:26,657 And I'm like this is going to be fun and I'm just going to imagine like weird. 232 00:10:26,657 --> 00:10:29,147 I'm just pretty confident. 233 00:10:29,147 --> 00:10:29,247 blue. 234 00:10:29,247 --> 00:10:31,048 We just didn't even mention it. 235 00:10:31,048 --> 00:10:31,468 It's pretty obvious. 236 00:10:31,468 --> 00:10:31,569 Yeah. 237 00:10:31,569 --> 00:10:33,269 I was like, wait, we've seen even more things. 238 00:10:33,269 --> 00:10:35,250 Why is there a gaping hole in that list? 239 00:10:35,250 --> 00:10:36,015 That's it. 240 00:10:36,015 --> 00:10:40,255 Oh, well, when I was in the press, the students out there loved this map. 241 00:10:40,255 --> 00:10:41,615 They really loved it and that. 242 00:10:41,615 --> 00:10:43,455 I was like, I'm not gonna post it. 243 00:10:43,455 --> 00:10:47,991 It was like, you know, you sit in a room and you're just sitting there like, I was 244 00:10:47,991 --> 00:10:48,495 thinking about it. 245 00:10:48,495 --> 00:10:50,055 At least I'm growing more right now. 246 00:10:50,055 --> 00:10:50,895 But it's true. 247 00:10:50,895 --> 00:10:51,735 That's right. 248 00:10:51,735 --> 00:10:55,751 The other single that I have on the spot, I have three. 249 00:10:56,855 --> 00:11:01,575 I think that all of them are important to just separate it a little bit. 250 00:11:01,575 --> 00:11:02,415 Yeah. 251 00:11:02,415 --> 00:11:05,414 And I also just think about it. 252 00:11:05,875 --> 00:11:09,178 the steam level in the book quite high. 253 00:11:09,819 --> 00:11:13,202 And I'm just feeling like based on the trailer, that is not what we're gonna wind 254 00:11:13,202 --> 00:11:13,959 up seeing. 255 00:11:13,959 --> 00:11:15,719 doesn't break at all. 256 00:11:15,719 --> 00:11:22,131 I mean, the little like 10 second clip where he's playing the piano and then 257 00:11:22,131 --> 00:11:26,689 she's in his lap and trying not to kiss him, I was like, yeah, give me more of 258 00:11:26,689 --> 00:11:26,979 that. 259 00:11:26,979 --> 00:11:29,119 I think it's gonna be good. 260 00:11:29,119 --> 00:11:35,619 She jumps into his, that yes, but did you see towards the end, she like, 261 00:11:38,593 --> 00:11:39,634 I saw it all. 262 00:11:39,634 --> 00:11:44,519 I saw all those moments and I was like, are we getting like the PG version for the 263 00:11:44,519 --> 00:11:45,460 trailer? 264 00:11:45,460 --> 00:11:47,842 And there's gonna be more when we really watch it. 265 00:11:47,842 --> 00:11:52,586 Also, it is going straight to prime video, meaning at home. 266 00:11:52,823 --> 00:11:56,867 which I feel like probably they could get away with more than if they decided to do 267 00:11:56,867 --> 00:11:58,889 a theater release. 268 00:11:59,290 --> 00:12:02,273 I mean not that the rating changes, I just think in terms of like a studio head being 269 00:12:02,273 --> 00:12:03,275 like how risky is this? 270 00:12:03,275 --> 00:12:03,943 you see this as? 271 00:12:03,943 --> 00:12:06,503 Well, except that Red, White, and Royal Blue is a... 272 00:12:06,503 --> 00:12:11,823 it's a saucy book and it was not so saucy on Prime. 273 00:12:11,823 --> 00:12:12,823 I mean... 274 00:12:12,823 --> 00:12:17,583 I think that it can't be done the way it is going to go with how it was on this 275 00:12:17,583 --> 00:12:17,823 one. 276 00:12:17,823 --> 00:12:18,823 True. 277 00:12:18,823 --> 00:12:19,823 I really hope. 278 00:12:19,823 --> 00:12:20,823 I think she's going to be like, this is not what it was going to be for. 279 00:12:20,823 --> 00:12:21,823 You said it. 280 00:12:21,823 --> 00:12:22,823 You know what? 281 00:12:22,823 --> 00:12:23,922 And I'm here on... 282 00:12:23,922 --> 00:12:26,364 and I'm doing it and you're all going to be jealous of me. 283 00:12:26,364 --> 00:12:26,911 Watch. 284 00:12:26,911 --> 00:12:32,021 Also, I can't remember, but I've heard more people say, you know, it's like Gaby, 285 00:12:32,021 --> 00:12:35,911 and as a producer, I mean, which I didn't know at first. 286 00:12:35,911 --> 00:12:41,311 I feel like she also, like, I don't know if it's like full female empowerment, or 287 00:12:41,311 --> 00:12:44,911 the pleasure of everything, which is just, that's who she is. 288 00:12:44,911 --> 00:12:46,122 Correct. 289 00:12:46,122 --> 00:12:50,884 I just, or this is really kind of funny, but at lunch today, I was talking about 290 00:12:50,884 --> 00:12:56,726 this with my coworkers, which includes my brother, and, um, we were talking about 291 00:12:56,726 --> 00:13:03,389 the trailer and whatever, and you know, things come up at lunch and, um, he was 292 00:13:03,389 --> 00:13:05,429 just kind of laughing and he was like, 293 00:13:05,630 --> 00:13:09,391 He's like, of course there's a movie where it's like about one direction and some 294 00:13:09,391 --> 00:13:13,033 desperate person like wrote this on the internet and then it became like a movie, 295 00:13:13,033 --> 00:13:14,533 like of course this happened. 296 00:13:14,773 --> 00:13:16,834 And I was like, yeah, I was like, you know, it's kind of funny. 297 00:13:16,834 --> 00:13:20,796 If you think about like, if somebody pitched this movie with opposite gender 298 00:13:20,796 --> 00:13:22,776 roles, it would not get made. 299 00:13:23,177 --> 00:13:29,399 So if the singer was like a Taylor Swift and like a 14 year old girl's dad goes to 300 00:13:29,399 --> 00:13:33,461 Coachella and then ends up dating the Taylor Swift character, like studio execs 301 00:13:33,461 --> 00:13:34,781 would be like, hmm. 302 00:13:36,684 --> 00:13:54,901 really excited for May 2nd. 303 00:13:54,901 --> 00:13:56,397 That's all I'm going to say. 304 00:13:58,066 --> 00:13:59,147 It should be good. 305 00:14:00,390 --> 00:14:02,473 This isn't why we came together today. 306 00:14:03,756 --> 00:14:08,484 We came together to talk about graphic novels and to have Molly open her special 307 00:14:08,484 --> 00:14:11,969 surprise wrapped book that she got at the bougie bookstore. 308 00:14:13,423 --> 00:14:17,365 So for a while now, I've been following this account, the Bougie Bookstore, and if 309 00:14:17,365 --> 00:14:20,326 you guys follow us on Instagram, you've seen a bunch of their content. 310 00:14:20,446 --> 00:14:23,828 And I'm actually set foot in it, and I was like, I gotta do this, I gotta get there. 311 00:14:23,828 --> 00:14:25,909 Everything's pink, they're huge Swifties. 312 00:14:25,909 --> 00:14:28,150 I was like, I just have to experience this in person. 313 00:14:28,370 --> 00:14:31,772 It's in a town called Norwood, Massachusetts, if you're not local to 314 00:14:31,772 --> 00:14:32,432 here. 315 00:14:32,432 --> 00:14:34,953 It's like 25, 30 minutes south of Boston. 316 00:14:35,654 --> 00:14:36,954 And it is in this. 317 00:14:37,447 --> 00:14:43,928 like mill building basically that was redone as this incredible shopping mecca 318 00:14:44,068 --> 00:14:46,529 for those who have been to Crompton Collective and Worcester Mass. 319 00:14:46,529 --> 00:14:50,350 It's very similar, like stalls with different vendors, a lot of vintage stuff. 320 00:14:50,750 --> 00:14:52,330 So the bookstore is inside of there. 321 00:14:53,331 --> 00:14:55,831 They have blind date books which has become my new obsession. 322 00:14:55,831 --> 00:14:58,952 Like every bookstore that I go to I see these wrapped books and I'm just like 323 00:14:58,952 --> 00:14:59,592 enamored by them. 324 00:14:59,592 --> 00:15:02,353 I want to see what the descriptions are, I want to see how they're degraded. 325 00:15:02,733 --> 00:15:06,054 All the ones in this bookstore are wrapped in pink paper. 326 00:15:07,547 --> 00:15:08,447 bedazzled. 327 00:15:08,447 --> 00:15:11,929 The one that I purchased happens to have like beautiful calligraphy, handwriting, 328 00:15:11,929 --> 00:15:15,051 and hearts drawn on them, but there were ones with like legitimate like gems and 329 00:15:15,051 --> 00:15:16,451 jewels and glitter. 330 00:15:16,932 --> 00:15:20,534 It's just obvious that the people that run this bookstore care deeply and are big 331 00:15:20,534 --> 00:15:23,436 readers and I feel like would be friends with this podcast. 332 00:15:23,436 --> 00:15:25,416 Hopefully someday we could have them on. 333 00:15:25,557 --> 00:15:30,259 So I looked at every single one they had on this huge rotating rack. 334 00:15:30,860 --> 00:15:36,082 And in the end I picked one that says, uh, contemporary romance. 335 00:15:37,359 --> 00:15:44,188 an influencer who gets canceled, goes to work at her uncle's business, small town 336 00:15:44,188 --> 00:15:47,612 vibes, and a closed door romance. 337 00:15:48,484 --> 00:15:50,646 in a long time. 338 00:15:50,646 --> 00:15:55,350 People can share their experience before I unpack it. 339 00:15:55,350 --> 00:16:00,335 People share your background with what people say that you are willing to do. 340 00:16:00,335 --> 00:16:01,075 What do you want me to do? 341 00:16:01,075 --> 00:16:03,357 I want to share what you have to say. 342 00:16:03,357 --> 00:16:07,261 I think it's called Famous for a Living by Melissa Ferguson. 343 00:16:07,261 --> 00:16:08,117 Have a good one. 344 00:16:08,117 --> 00:16:08,867 that. 345 00:16:08,944 --> 00:16:10,463 Okay here we go. 346 00:16:13,743 --> 00:16:16,241 No, what's happening? 347 00:16:16,355 --> 00:16:17,790 click clack on the whatever. 348 00:16:17,790 --> 00:16:22,070 guys, no ASMR nail opening, just my actual nails. 349 00:16:23,839 --> 00:16:24,543 Okay. 350 00:16:28,111 --> 00:16:30,111 This one is called... 351 00:16:30,111 --> 00:16:32,111 .. 352 00:16:32,111 --> 00:16:34,111 Oh my... 353 00:16:34,111 --> 00:16:35,508 .. 354 00:16:35,508 --> 00:16:36,309 it! 355 00:16:37,455 --> 00:16:38,618 Yes! 356 00:16:38,831 --> 00:16:41,131 I mean the cover is doing it for me. 357 00:16:42,131 --> 00:16:52,436 Yeah, I don't know all these people, but I think like her uncle always like she's 358 00:16:52,436 --> 00:16:52,816 trying to remember. 359 00:16:52,816 --> 00:16:55,558 Okay, I'm just going to read you the first paragraph of the back. 360 00:16:55,558 --> 00:16:59,160 When her business partner is accused of serious financial crimes, superstar 361 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:04,542 influencer Kat Cranwell, an engineered marvel of beauty, energy and fun falls 362 00:17:04,542 --> 00:17:08,745 from her penthouse perch desperate to get away from online trolls and paparazzi 363 00:17:08,745 --> 00:17:10,005 documenting her disgrace. 364 00:17:10,005 --> 00:17:12,266 Kat accepts her uncle's offer to work with him. 365 00:17:12,399 --> 00:17:16,986 in Canary National Park, Montana, about as far from her life as she's known it. 366 00:17:17,982 --> 00:17:24,689 I mean, this basically sounds like if that chick from Glossier was forced to hide in 367 00:17:24,689 --> 00:17:28,292 the woods and her uncles whatever and met a guy. 368 00:17:28,754 --> 00:17:32,818 So this is perfect for you. 369 00:17:32,818 --> 00:17:35,129 Yeah, I mean, that's like got Molly written all over it. 370 00:17:35,129 --> 00:17:35,575 college friends. 371 00:17:35,575 --> 00:17:38,975 I was talking to my friend, and she said something to me, she said she was just 372 00:17:38,975 --> 00:17:40,575 curious about how I got this from you. 373 00:17:40,575 --> 00:17:43,064 And I saw this from you, and I was like, oh my god. 374 00:17:43,575 --> 00:17:47,111 And so like, Steph liked the cover, and like, that's the cover, and I was like, oh 375 00:17:47,111 --> 00:17:47,552 my god. 376 00:17:47,552 --> 00:17:49,713 I have to bring this up to the register. 377 00:17:50,253 --> 00:17:52,695 It's like, could I be any more clear? 378 00:17:52,695 --> 00:17:55,177 Yeah, here I, are you wondering if I'm single? 379 00:17:55,177 --> 00:17:56,098 Because I am. 380 00:17:56,098 --> 00:17:59,740 Like that's, like that's what these covers say to me. 381 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,921 And so like. 382 00:18:02,606 --> 00:18:03,342 I would love. 383 00:18:03,342 --> 00:18:07,585 to just buy based on a description because that is one scenario where I'm like on a 384 00:18:07,585 --> 00:18:12,729 level of like one to 20 like how bad is this on the like embarrassing cat lady 385 00:18:12,729 --> 00:18:13,151 scale. 386 00:18:13,151 --> 00:18:13,431 proud. 387 00:18:13,431 --> 00:18:16,431 I just have to look up to books for something to come with. 388 00:18:16,431 --> 00:18:17,431 So you can start it in a while. 389 00:18:17,431 --> 00:18:18,431 I know I have to register. 390 00:18:18,431 --> 00:18:23,431 Because even in the history, I've seen one of the active pages that I've been on. 391 00:18:23,431 --> 00:18:25,431 I'm into it, and I'm very proud. 392 00:18:25,431 --> 00:18:27,431 I have a problem with it. 393 00:18:27,431 --> 00:18:31,431 Well, I think we should do a group trip to the Blue Sheep on tour in the future. 394 00:18:31,431 --> 00:18:32,431 That would be lovely. 395 00:18:32,431 --> 00:18:33,287 I just never wanted to do that. 396 00:18:33,287 --> 00:18:33,627 Yeah. 397 00:18:33,627 --> 00:18:35,468 The Swifty stuff is amazing. 398 00:18:35,468 --> 00:18:39,231 Like I just feel that the women that own this place are kindred spirits to us. 399 00:18:39,231 --> 00:18:46,396 And they actually had the Taylor Swift version of the glass cups that I got you. 400 00:18:46,396 --> 00:18:48,998 The ones that say books are my love language. 401 00:18:48,998 --> 00:18:55,042 They also make ones where it's spines of books and they did the book spines as if 402 00:18:55,042 --> 00:18:56,439 they were all of her albums. 403 00:18:56,439 --> 00:18:57,499 saw it. 404 00:18:57,799 --> 00:18:59,099 Oh, I've seen that. 405 00:18:59,599 --> 00:19:00,699 That's awesome. 406 00:19:02,479 --> 00:19:08,824 So for our 20th episode, we decided to, similar to the cookbooks episode, do a 407 00:19:08,824 --> 00:19:13,479 short book as opposed to an author or a particular book. 408 00:19:13,479 --> 00:19:21,159 And we are talking about graphic novels, which I don't think that we all except we 409 00:19:21,159 --> 00:19:25,479 read that many graphic novels, both of our books. 410 00:19:25,479 --> 00:19:29,479 I mean, I read Mouse and Mouse 2 in school, and that was pretty much it. 411 00:19:29,479 --> 00:19:30,979 Yep. 412 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:34,170 The one I read for homework for this episode was my very first one. 413 00:19:34,170 --> 00:19:35,451 Oh wow! 414 00:19:35,631 --> 00:19:36,231 Whoa! 415 00:19:36,231 --> 00:19:37,232 I did not know that. 416 00:19:37,232 --> 00:19:38,692 I thought you had read Mouse. 417 00:19:39,193 --> 00:19:40,813 Okay. 418 00:19:41,094 --> 00:19:43,394 So, I love graphic novels. 419 00:19:43,555 --> 00:19:48,757 I definitely got more into them when I became a teacher because being a middle 420 00:19:48,757 --> 00:19:52,699 school English teacher, there are a lot of kids that like don't really like to read. 421 00:19:52,699 --> 00:19:54,420 They've got turned off from reading. 422 00:19:54,420 --> 00:19:57,741 They don't get a lot of choice over what they read. 423 00:19:58,226 --> 00:20:02,629 And so reading becomes a chore that they don't enjoy and it's really sad. 424 00:20:02,629 --> 00:20:06,773 And they basically see it as like a task or a punishment as opposed to like this 425 00:20:06,773 --> 00:20:13,458 joyous awesome thing and graphic novels and like manga and like all of that. 426 00:20:13,458 --> 00:20:19,003 Anything that's like more visual and like establishes like a cool world of some sort 427 00:20:19,003 --> 00:20:24,788 and is like less text is like really up the alley of a lot of middle school or 428 00:20:24,788 --> 00:20:26,929 like adolescent non-readers. 429 00:20:27,474 --> 00:20:31,155 And so I have gotten back into them as a teacher. 430 00:20:31,155 --> 00:20:37,318 And then I've also taken some classes where they're like the graphic novel genre 431 00:20:37,318 --> 00:20:38,398 is very diverse. 432 00:20:38,398 --> 00:20:42,820 So if you're looking to get like more voices in your classroom, like there's 433 00:20:42,820 --> 00:20:47,482 definitely a ton of diverse authors that are getting published in the graphic novel 434 00:20:47,482 --> 00:20:48,402 world. 435 00:20:48,542 --> 00:20:50,983 So that's like one venue that you can take. 436 00:20:51,384 --> 00:20:56,085 And there's just been a lot of cool like memoirs and 437 00:20:56,418 --> 00:21:01,159 good coming of age stories, obviously Heartstopper is like one that everybody 438 00:21:01,159 --> 00:21:03,400 knows right now. 439 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,281 I feel like there's, I don't know if I would call it a resurrection, but I just 440 00:21:07,281 --> 00:21:12,862 feel like there are a ton of good graphic novels right now being published in the 441 00:21:12,862 --> 00:21:15,783 last couple years. 442 00:21:17,084 --> 00:21:23,285 I have really enjoyed kind of getting back into it and seeing what people can do with 443 00:21:23,285 --> 00:21:23,885 it. 444 00:21:24,678 --> 00:21:28,820 and the way that they can tell really powerful stories in concise ways that are 445 00:21:28,820 --> 00:21:30,380 mainly dialogue. 446 00:21:31,101 --> 00:21:39,605 I think it's a really cool way to get some conversation started about things that you 447 00:21:39,605 --> 00:21:45,147 might not want to read a 400 page book about, but you might be willing to dive in 448 00:21:45,147 --> 00:21:46,788 via a graphic novel. 449 00:21:48,268 --> 00:21:50,849 So yeah, and a bunch of them are like... 450 00:21:51,018 --> 00:21:53,098 becoming TV shows and movies. 451 00:21:53,098 --> 00:21:57,459 And it's really cool because I think one of the really fascinating things about 452 00:21:57,459 --> 00:22:01,701 graphic novels is, especially with Heartstopper, if you read the graphic 453 00:22:01,701 --> 00:22:07,622 novels and watch the show, you can see how each of the panels basically is set up for 454 00:22:07,622 --> 00:22:08,843 a movie scene perfectly. 455 00:22:08,843 --> 00:22:13,824 Like, when you adapt a book into a movie, you draw out all the scenes and they have 456 00:22:13,824 --> 00:22:14,484 them plastered. 457 00:22:14,484 --> 00:22:17,365 They've storyboards like all over the place and the storyboards are already 458 00:22:17,365 --> 00:22:18,165 made. 459 00:22:18,325 --> 00:22:19,005 So 460 00:22:19,462 --> 00:22:23,785 I think we're going to start seeing more and more of them being adapted into film 461 00:22:23,785 --> 00:22:26,107 and TV shows and I think it's going to be awesome. 462 00:22:27,489 --> 00:22:28,889 What did you guys read? 463 00:22:29,061 --> 00:22:34,631 into sittings good talk by Mira Jacob. 464 00:22:34,631 --> 00:22:37,991 I'm going to pass this to Molly afterwards because I think she would love it. 465 00:22:37,991 --> 00:22:38,791 It 466 00:22:40,367 --> 00:22:42,371 It made me laugh. 467 00:22:42,371 --> 00:22:44,876 It also made me cry. 468 00:22:44,876 --> 00:22:52,391 It is a beautiful sort of memoir broken down into conversations she has with her 469 00:22:52,391 --> 00:22:52,892 son. 470 00:22:52,892 --> 00:22:59,906 Mira is Indian, her husband is Jewish, and it takes place prior to 2016. 471 00:22:59,906 --> 00:23:05,417 So her son is coming to her asking questions about racism. 472 00:23:05,417 --> 00:23:06,919 You know, 473 00:23:06,991 --> 00:23:13,512 things he's overheard them talk about and she draws the images of her her husband 474 00:23:13,512 --> 00:23:19,687 and her kid don't really change but they are backlit by scene scenes of New York 475 00:23:19,687 --> 00:23:25,621 City which are beautiful and some of them repeat it's also her story 476 00:23:29,290 --> 00:23:34,666 being the only Indian family, or I think, actually, I think they were one of three 477 00:23:34,666 --> 00:23:36,450 in their town. 478 00:23:36,450 --> 00:23:39,330 And it's just beautiful. 479 00:23:39,330 --> 00:23:47,974 And also the questions from her son are just like stereotypical kid questions. 480 00:23:47,974 --> 00:23:53,708 Like there's a whole bit in there about knock knock jokes because he's trying to 481 00:23:53,708 --> 00:23:55,744 understand knock knock jokes. 482 00:23:55,744 --> 00:23:57,780 It's just, it's innocent. 483 00:23:57,780 --> 00:23:58,570 It's... 484 00:23:58,570 --> 00:24:00,250 Um, it hurts you. 485 00:24:00,250 --> 00:24:02,090 It like cuts to the bone. 486 00:24:02,090 --> 00:24:05,890 Um, I, I wanted to just like hug this whole family. 487 00:24:05,890 --> 00:24:10,850 There's a lot of tough conversations in here, but it's, it's beautifully done. 488 00:24:10,850 --> 00:24:15,610 Um, and I feel like any age, even like a parent reading this to the kid, I feel 489 00:24:15,610 --> 00:24:21,610 like would be fantastic to have the kids sort of understand the questions. 490 00:24:21,610 --> 00:24:23,690 Maybe they're asking themselves. 491 00:24:23,690 --> 00:24:27,610 Um, so yeah, this was sort of like a political one. 492 00:24:27,610 --> 00:24:28,234 Um, 493 00:24:28,234 --> 00:24:33,194 but also I don't remember the one that Molly read, even though I read it. 494 00:24:33,507 --> 00:24:37,769 Okay so the one I read is called Laura Dean keeps breaking up with me. 495 00:24:37,789 --> 00:24:40,250 Before I even opened it I was like I'm gonna love this because this is obviously 496 00:24:40,250 --> 00:24:42,311 a high school romance I just knew it. 497 00:24:42,712 --> 00:24:49,255 Visually the book is all shades of white, black, gray and then this like it's not 498 00:24:49,255 --> 00:24:52,397 right to call it hot pink what color would you call this? 499 00:24:55,779 --> 00:24:58,200 Okay so it's this pinky color. 500 00:24:58,929 --> 00:25:04,657 as we've learned, it's actually used to express certain emotions, to show that 501 00:25:04,657 --> 00:25:08,002 it's a little bit of joy when it's possibly because that color is kind of 502 00:25:08,002 --> 00:25:09,744 overblown and it's just a little bit of a 503 00:25:10,145 --> 00:25:13,707 even though I was reading the dialogue and loving it and completely hooked, I was 504 00:25:13,707 --> 00:25:18,049 also like, oh my god, like the visual meaning behind the color choices in this 505 00:25:18,049 --> 00:25:18,809 thing. 506 00:25:19,229 --> 00:25:22,691 I almost feel like I need to read it again and only look, like not read the words, 507 00:25:22,691 --> 00:25:27,252 just look at the illustrations and why they chose things that they chose. 508 00:25:27,853 --> 00:25:29,386 To your earlier point about 509 00:25:29,386 --> 00:25:34,174 out, like, excessively to figure out what's the most heavy topics. 510 00:25:34,174 --> 00:25:36,032 This is possibly why I'm writing this. 511 00:25:36,065 --> 00:25:40,128 but it's also about like gay and lesbian relationships. 512 00:25:40,128 --> 00:25:42,749 There's someone who's deciding whether or not to get an abortion. 513 00:25:42,749 --> 00:25:47,252 They're like pretty serious topics in here and they kind of like sneak in. 514 00:25:47,252 --> 00:25:50,473 You sort of like don't even realize that it's happening because it's just like 515 00:25:50,473 --> 00:25:52,414 beautiful and so fun to read. 516 00:25:52,715 --> 00:25:56,477 And then there was one page that I took a picture of in case I couldn't find it 517 00:25:56,477 --> 00:25:57,997 again, but I just did find it. 518 00:25:58,254 --> 00:26:02,116 that says the hardest part of all of this, aside from the astounding fact that being 519 00:26:02,116 --> 00:26:06,378 dumped feels like food poisoning, is the fact that I'm always losing a person who 520 00:26:06,378 --> 00:26:07,078 was just there. 521 00:26:07,078 --> 00:26:09,560 Like she's gone, but she's not gone. 522 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,941 I can still smell her deodorant on my sheets. 523 00:26:11,941 --> 00:26:13,962 I was like, just kill me. 524 00:26:13,962 --> 00:26:19,806 Like I just, I feel like it's the tiniest little text bubble, but full of like so 525 00:26:19,806 --> 00:26:21,767 much emotion and teen angst. 526 00:26:21,767 --> 00:26:27,229 And I just couldn't get over how like profound it felt, even though 527 00:26:27,450 --> 00:26:31,953 visually it's kind of like joyful and bouncy, like all of it. 528 00:26:32,678 --> 00:26:36,580 It definitely made me want to read more and I read this entire thing in under an 529 00:26:36,580 --> 00:26:39,854 hour like I couldn't stop I just wanted to know what was gonna happen. 530 00:26:39,854 --> 00:26:41,210 talk to you. 531 00:26:41,210 --> 00:26:46,535 And I'm so grateful that you just described that, because I think that's all 532 00:26:46,535 --> 00:26:47,810 about people's skills. 533 00:26:47,810 --> 00:26:51,643 And when you first read the graphic novel, you're saying it's a good thing. 534 00:26:51,643 --> 00:26:53,324 like you're taking everything in. 535 00:26:53,324 --> 00:26:59,907 Like you're, it's not, it's so unusual with a book to get visuals for grownup 536 00:26:59,907 --> 00:27:00,987 feelings. 537 00:27:01,027 --> 00:27:02,108 You don't get that. 538 00:27:02,108 --> 00:27:03,938 It doesn't happen with picture books. 539 00:27:03,938 --> 00:27:04,338 books. 540 00:27:04,338 --> 00:27:06,690 For kids, it's like these stories, there's more. 541 00:27:06,690 --> 00:27:09,338 It's illustrated, and that makes a lot of sense. 542 00:27:09,338 --> 00:27:12,338 But things aren't illustrated when you're an adult. 543 00:27:12,338 --> 00:27:18,918 And so to have these big, angsty moments, or these really big conversations about 544 00:27:18,918 --> 00:27:20,381 raising your son, 545 00:27:20,381 --> 00:27:25,064 son and his identity and all of those things, and then to have it basically 546 00:27:25,064 --> 00:27:29,306 animated for you as you're reading it packs such a punch. 547 00:27:29,306 --> 00:27:33,820 But when kids first start reading graphic novels, they can't articulate that yet. 548 00:27:33,820 --> 00:27:34,212 yet. 549 00:27:34,212 --> 00:27:39,338 So it was really cool to hear you say how you were. 550 00:27:39,338 --> 00:27:44,020 encountering it and experiencing it, because I don't know, I don't, you're the 551 00:27:44,020 --> 00:27:47,581 first adult I know that had not read one before. 552 00:27:47,641 --> 00:27:50,221 So that was actually really cool and I wasn't expecting that. 553 00:27:52,242 --> 00:27:53,502 These are all my books. 554 00:27:53,943 --> 00:27:57,164 So I've read a lot of them, but I also brought a couple of other ones. 555 00:27:57,164 --> 00:27:59,684 I mean, I could talk about Heartstopper all day, but I'm not going to. 556 00:27:59,684 --> 00:28:00,429 my family. 557 00:28:00,429 --> 00:28:01,450 But I have to think about it. 558 00:28:01,450 --> 00:28:01,971 That's my first part. 559 00:28:01,971 --> 00:28:06,185 It's just how I want to make sure that I don't have to do the piano. 560 00:28:06,185 --> 00:28:07,586 is really cool. 561 00:28:08,027 --> 00:28:11,610 She's been able to make five volumes of the same love story. 562 00:28:11,610 --> 00:28:12,811 It's really compelling. 563 00:28:12,811 --> 00:28:15,313 The friendships are awesome, et cetera, et cetera. 564 00:28:15,313 --> 00:28:17,614 So good, read it, do it, all of it. 565 00:28:18,235 --> 00:28:25,060 I just read a new one called Lunar New Year Love Story. 566 00:28:25,821 --> 00:28:30,316 I have a friend who, I won't say who it is, but I have a friend. 567 00:28:30,316 --> 00:28:34,888 who texted me and said I saw this book in a bookshop window and thought what if it 568 00:28:34,888 --> 00:28:35,448 was covered? 569 00:28:35,448 --> 00:28:40,704 And I had the book at work the other day and I hadn't finished it yet and was 570 00:28:40,704 --> 00:28:44,724 sitting on my desk and my brother walked right in front of me and goes, what's that 571 00:28:44,724 --> 00:28:44,957 about? 572 00:28:44,957 --> 00:28:46,796 What if I'm feeling covered? 573 00:28:46,796 --> 00:28:47,796 Yeah, disagree. 574 00:28:47,796 --> 00:28:48,796 That's beautiful. 575 00:28:48,796 --> 00:28:52,906 So, the book was very polarized but it's very bright. 576 00:28:52,906 --> 00:28:56,283 It's like it shows a way of 577 00:28:56,347 --> 00:28:57,247 Agent. 578 00:28:57,567 --> 00:29:02,469 It has a swirling red, like mystical ghost. 579 00:29:02,690 --> 00:29:03,050 Mm-hmm. 580 00:29:03,050 --> 00:29:05,773 It's a little bit of a delusion. 581 00:29:05,773 --> 00:29:09,642 yeah, I was gonna say that, but I don't know if I'm going to like constellations. 582 00:29:09,642 --> 00:29:12,042 So you know what I'm saying about it. 583 00:29:12,042 --> 00:29:19,210 It's a couple of pink and red, very nice, and the people in this book meet each 584 00:29:19,210 --> 00:29:25,308 other because they're looking at each other's minds, and some of them are the 585 00:29:25,308 --> 00:29:29,256 enemies, and some of them are trying to, and some of them are happy, and then all 586 00:29:29,256 --> 00:29:29,990 of them. 587 00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:35,935 together to do this like lunar new year dance thing that they can do at festivals. 588 00:29:36,395 --> 00:29:37,997 They do it at people's weddings. 589 00:29:37,997 --> 00:29:41,639 They do it at all sorts of like big Asian community events. 590 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:47,565 And they're all in high school and this girl ends up liking a boy and kind of in 591 00:29:47,565 --> 00:29:50,728 the same vein of Laura Dean keeps breaking up with me. 592 00:29:50,728 --> 00:29:51,937 She kind of ends up. 593 00:29:51,937 --> 00:29:55,879 liking this boy that's like kind of a player and he never really like commits to 594 00:29:55,879 --> 00:29:59,802 being her boyfriend and she's always just kind of like out in the lurch about like 595 00:29:59,802 --> 00:30:00,703 are we dating? 596 00:30:00,703 --> 00:30:01,564 Is this serious? 597 00:30:01,564 --> 00:30:06,047 I don't really know and then he has a cousin who's like really nice and like she 598 00:30:06,047 --> 00:30:12,712 finally kind of notices him like halfway through and the other boy um his dad has 599 00:30:12,712 --> 00:30:16,294 passed away and he's dealing with the grief of that and she has grown up without 600 00:30:16,294 --> 00:30:19,602 a mother because her mom abandoned her and her dad. 601 00:30:19,602 --> 00:30:19,946 dad. 602 00:30:19,946 --> 00:30:25,216 And so they both kind of like connect without that and then she has a picture of 603 00:30:25,216 --> 00:30:29,436 her girlfriend and she's like, well, they both have everything in it. 604 00:30:29,605 --> 00:30:31,086 And it's really well done. 605 00:30:31,086 --> 00:30:34,167 And I would say like out of all the graphic novels I've read, this one took me 606 00:30:34,167 --> 00:30:38,429 the longest because it has like the most text out of any graphic novel that I've 607 00:30:38,429 --> 00:30:39,169 read. 608 00:30:39,410 --> 00:30:44,672 Visually stunning, super compelling, has a little bit of everything. 609 00:30:44,972 --> 00:30:45,760 I think that. 610 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:51,326 that honestly, if I'm being like, I'm thrilled about it, the title stinks, and 611 00:30:51,326 --> 00:30:55,314 that it's gonna turn a lot of people off from how good it is, because it looks like 612 00:30:55,314 --> 00:31:01,010 a proofreader, but it does have a story and title, but it's all different kinds of 613 00:31:01,010 --> 00:31:03,450 love, I think is what people need to understand. 614 00:31:03,450 --> 00:31:09,178 It talks about correctness, friendship love, romance love, 615 00:31:09,178 --> 00:31:11,339 missing people, that kind of love. 616 00:31:11,339 --> 00:31:14,160 Like it has a lot of different things in it. 617 00:31:15,429 --> 00:31:17,029 So I don't really love the title. 618 00:31:19,412 --> 00:31:23,956 I already talked about, There's a Time for Everything, which was the one that I read 619 00:31:23,956 --> 00:31:28,419 for my class, where the boy goes on the European trip and has his first girlfriend 620 00:31:28,419 --> 00:31:29,780 and it's adorable. 621 00:31:30,261 --> 00:31:36,286 And then another one that I just got, that I haven't read yet is called In Limbo. 622 00:31:36,286 --> 00:31:42,692 And it deals with, the main character is a Korean American girl, and she is dealing 623 00:31:42,692 --> 00:31:44,274 with some mental illness. 624 00:31:44,274 --> 00:31:45,826 personal mental illness. 625 00:31:45,826 --> 00:31:50,854 Her queen family is not very impressed by understanding that her social and 626 00:31:50,854 --> 00:31:53,910 emotional needs because culturally they're very upset. 627 00:31:53,910 --> 00:31:56,671 And so that's what this one is about. 628 00:31:56,871 --> 00:32:01,894 And it has another beautiful cover where the girl is floating in water that's like 629 00:32:01,894 --> 00:32:03,815 a watercolor rainbow. 630 00:32:04,656 --> 00:32:08,858 And I saw this on the shelf and was like, I have to buy like there's I'm not leaving 631 00:32:08,858 --> 00:32:10,639 the store without this book. 632 00:32:11,699 --> 00:32:13,840 And the professor 633 00:32:13,885 --> 00:32:18,390 of the class that I just took also recommended this because it was a class 634 00:32:18,390 --> 00:32:22,175 about social justice and diverse authors and all that good stuff. 635 00:32:22,175 --> 00:32:26,518 So I haven't read that one yet, but that's the next one on my list. 636 00:32:26,518 --> 00:32:31,180 me a couple years ago that I read that was beautiful? 637 00:32:31,180 --> 00:32:35,220 The family? 638 00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:36,220 Thank you. 639 00:32:36,220 --> 00:32:36,457 That was a good one. 640 00:32:36,457 --> 00:32:38,238 an Asian family immigrating to America. 641 00:32:38,238 --> 00:32:39,718 That's a really good one. 642 00:32:40,438 --> 00:32:42,799 I don't know who I lent that to, maybe my brother. 643 00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:45,040 No, actually, maybe it's at school. 644 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,620 I have multiple libraries, it's an issue. 645 00:32:49,321 --> 00:32:55,203 It's a really, really good one about just the immigration experience and then going 646 00:32:55,203 --> 00:32:59,524 to school here and not knowing how to speak English and how kids treat you. 647 00:33:00,304 --> 00:33:01,185 That one packs a... 648 00:33:01,185 --> 00:33:02,930 is a great punch. 649 00:33:02,930 --> 00:33:04,017 It is coming up. 650 00:33:04,017 --> 00:33:06,578 I don't know if I made you read this or not, I got it from the library. 651 00:33:06,578 --> 00:33:08,859 It's called The Prince and the Dressmaker. 652 00:33:09,979 --> 00:33:15,801 It's about, it's another one that deals with gay relationships. 653 00:33:16,841 --> 00:33:20,342 I don't want to give anything away because that one has like a lot of fun twists in 654 00:33:20,342 --> 00:33:20,522 it. 655 00:33:20,522 --> 00:33:29,228 But basically, there's a dressmaker who is at the castle a lot making dresses and 656 00:33:29,228 --> 00:33:31,178 know the prince. 657 00:33:31,178 --> 00:33:32,178 And that's the only thing that's there. 658 00:33:32,178 --> 00:33:33,178 Sounds lovely. 659 00:33:33,178 --> 00:33:34,256 And it's really funny. 660 00:33:34,256 --> 00:33:37,079 it's really funny and really heartfelt. 661 00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:42,223 And like, the artwork is very like fairy tale ish, because it's like the setting is 662 00:33:42,223 --> 00:33:47,387 a castle and like, but then the story is like very not it's like a very 663 00:33:47,387 --> 00:33:50,850 contemporary story shown in a very old fashioned way. 664 00:33:50,850 --> 00:33:54,150 And the clash of the art and the content is awesome. 665 00:33:54,150 --> 00:33:54,522 awesome. 666 00:33:54,522 --> 00:33:55,362 It's awesome. 667 00:33:55,362 --> 00:33:56,682 I'm just so excited. 668 00:33:56,682 --> 00:33:59,682 Oh my gosh, that's hilarious. 669 00:34:02,842 --> 00:34:04,034 So. 670 00:34:04,808 --> 00:34:08,513 I just finished that book, so I feel like other people need to share what they're 671 00:34:08,513 --> 00:34:11,976 reading now because I haven't started another something. 672 00:34:12,114 --> 00:34:18,179 On Royalty, Maine, I just mentioned The Cool Friends, which was 673 00:34:18,219 --> 00:34:20,241 Instagram-influenced to me. 674 00:34:20,241 --> 00:34:25,125 I couldn't know which one to recommend, so I just picked the pop-ups because I don't 675 00:34:25,125 --> 00:34:26,006 know what I'm going to do. 676 00:34:26,006 --> 00:34:28,848 Um, that's what I'm going to do. 677 00:34:28,848 --> 00:34:30,250 And as I was saying, 678 00:34:30,250 --> 00:34:32,559 was reading, I kept wondering. 679 00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:33,220 a question for you. 680 00:34:33,220 --> 00:34:35,241 Who did the author actually write in the title? 681 00:34:35,241 --> 00:34:47,473 Did he go out with his girlfriend or something like that? 682 00:34:47,473 --> 00:34:49,435 I don't think either of you did this without Mary, so. 683 00:34:49,435 --> 00:34:49,895 I don't know. 684 00:34:49,895 --> 00:34:50,596 No thanks. 685 00:34:50,596 --> 00:34:51,577 Why is it so right without a girl? 686 00:34:51,577 --> 00:34:52,258 She must be a test-girl. 687 00:34:52,258 --> 00:34:52,498 I love it. 688 00:34:52,498 --> 00:34:56,664 I have to say human. 689 00:34:56,664 --> 00:34:59,568 have to qualify the girl with human. 690 00:34:59,568 --> 00:35:01,890 That's when I know I'm not going to read it. 691 00:35:01,951 --> 00:35:04,934 When you have to say it's about a human girl. 692 00:35:05,049 --> 00:35:07,496 not a dragon girl or a fairy girl. 693 00:35:09,666 --> 00:35:11,250 Oh, that's my favorite. 694 00:35:11,633 --> 00:35:15,044 But please there, I'm sure we have listeners that are into this. 695 00:35:17,386 --> 00:35:21,786 Yeah, when she is seven, she and her twin sister and her older sister are hanging 696 00:35:21,786 --> 00:35:25,626 out at home and a strange man comes to the door. 697 00:35:25,626 --> 00:35:29,346 She answers the door, lets him in, he murders their parents. 698 00:35:29,346 --> 00:35:33,626 And then he, yeah, it starts off with a bang. 699 00:35:33,626 --> 00:35:35,006 Yep. 700 00:35:35,006 --> 00:35:43,076 Takes the three of them to the land of Faerie, which is apparently across the 701 00:35:43,076 --> 00:35:43,626 ocean. 702 00:35:43,626 --> 00:35:46,863 This episode is fueled by Prosecco, by the way. 703 00:35:46,863 --> 00:35:47,404 sorry. 704 00:35:47,404 --> 00:35:51,032 I don't mean to be laughing but it's just like and then he just takes three random 705 00:35:51,032 --> 00:35:53,198 children across an ocean to the Fairyland. 706 00:35:53,198 --> 00:35:57,226 actually the biological father of their older sister. 707 00:35:57,226 --> 00:36:00,026 So their sister is half fairy. 708 00:36:00,026 --> 00:36:01,506 You guys are, I've lost you. 709 00:36:01,506 --> 00:36:07,942 But anyways, fast forward, she's now I think like 17. 710 00:36:07,942 --> 00:36:10,304 me of that soap opera Passions back in the day. 711 00:36:10,304 --> 00:36:11,225 Did you watch that? 712 00:36:11,225 --> 00:36:12,806 I think I watched it a lot. 713 00:36:12,806 --> 00:36:15,048 Oh my God, you did not. 714 00:36:15,128 --> 00:36:18,491 I had friends that watched Passions and I was like, they'd try- they'd give me 715 00:36:18,491 --> 00:36:19,452 updates over lunch. 716 00:36:19,452 --> 00:36:22,614 I'd be like drinking a carton of milk and they'd be telling me about it like this 717 00:36:22,614 --> 00:36:24,479 and I'd be like, uh, okay. 718 00:36:24,479 --> 00:36:30,178 then it went downhill from there. 719 00:36:30,178 --> 00:36:35,218 Anyways, so she and her sister are humans living among fairies and they're now 720 00:36:35,218 --> 00:36:39,358 teenagers and there's a lot of cruelty, like violent. 721 00:36:39,358 --> 00:36:40,138 to him. 722 00:36:40,738 --> 00:36:42,099 There's a lot of interest in him. 723 00:36:42,099 --> 00:36:46,474 She is trying to find a place of safety where one of the... 724 00:36:46,474 --> 00:36:51,594 the princes will sort of take her into his court and protect her because she could 725 00:36:51,594 --> 00:36:53,999 get murdered at any time. 726 00:36:53,999 --> 00:37:01,216 And there is one cruel prince who is her age, who is just constantly picking on 727 00:37:01,216 --> 00:37:01,457 her. 728 00:37:01,457 --> 00:37:02,903 It's not even picking on her. 729 00:37:02,903 --> 00:37:03,885 It's like... 730 00:37:05,514 --> 00:37:07,369 violent picking on her basically. 731 00:37:07,369 --> 00:37:10,708 I will say that I did not love it. 732 00:37:10,708 --> 00:37:13,730 I struggled with it, even though I didn't purchase it. 733 00:37:13,730 --> 00:37:15,522 I did enjoy it in the end. 734 00:37:15,522 --> 00:37:20,734 And if I didn't have an extensive TBR pile, I probably would order the next book 735 00:37:20,734 --> 00:37:22,634 just to see what happens. 736 00:37:22,634 --> 00:37:28,046 The other thing is I need fairies right now because I am so stressed out. 737 00:37:28,046 --> 00:37:33,362 I'm about to tile, but I spent a week doing drywall and backerboard and I needed 738 00:37:33,362 --> 00:37:35,734 something completely not of this world. 739 00:37:35,757 --> 00:37:36,137 this world. 740 00:37:36,137 --> 00:37:39,558 So, I'm gonna be able to recover from the end. 741 00:37:40,278 --> 00:37:42,619 That's fair. 742 00:37:42,619 --> 00:37:45,499 I have a question. 743 00:37:45,820 --> 00:37:47,080 Last week I had a question. 744 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,879 I spoke at 6,000, 6,000. 745 00:37:48,879 --> 00:37:49,920 I arrived here tonight. 746 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,581 I only have 13 pages left. 747 00:37:51,581 --> 00:37:52,802 I had such a busy work day. 748 00:37:52,802 --> 00:37:55,925 I was on zoom for a thousand hours and I was so close to finishing. 749 00:37:55,925 --> 00:38:01,849 So I don't actually know what's going to happen at the very end, but I was like in 750 00:38:01,930 --> 00:38:02,871 on this book. 751 00:38:02,871 --> 00:38:08,655 And I will say the two of you like a lot of like conflict and bumpy road to the end 752 00:38:08,655 --> 00:38:11,126 and you are going to love this book. 753 00:38:11,126 --> 00:38:12,118 walk. 754 00:38:12,118 --> 00:38:16,021 I had moments where I was like, oh my God, I can't believe this is getting messed up 755 00:38:16,021 --> 00:38:16,802 again. 756 00:38:16,802 --> 00:38:19,605 I just wanted to like fast forward to the happy ending, which I don't even know if 757 00:38:19,605 --> 00:38:26,131 I'm going to get, but it's a lot of like just conflict on the road to potentially 758 00:38:26,131 --> 00:38:27,231 being together. 759 00:38:27,232 --> 00:38:31,816 And it also took a long time for it to get like steamy, which surprised me when Ali 760 00:38:31,816 --> 00:38:33,998 Hazel and the author was the one who recommended it. 761 00:38:33,998 --> 00:38:36,840 I thought surely this is going to be like the sauciest of the saucy. 762 00:38:38,090 --> 00:38:43,434 was but it's so restrained the way she decides to include those moments where 763 00:38:43,434 --> 00:38:46,957 like you're waiting for it you're waiting for it you're waiting for it finally 764 00:38:46,957 --> 00:38:50,259 happens and it's like so much better than you even think it could be. 765 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,882 This is a totally new author to me, Nikki Payne. 766 00:38:53,882 --> 00:38:58,486 It's making me want to read whatever else she has published. 767 00:38:59,467 --> 00:39:07,393 So if you're into romance with conflict, a dash of sauce, this is going to be for 768 00:39:07,393 --> 00:39:07,538 you. 769 00:39:07,538 --> 00:39:08,058 problem. 770 00:39:08,058 --> 00:39:13,345 I will say that I learned for the first time in the event that we went to. 771 00:39:13,345 --> 00:39:18,138 Remember they said, I think someone posed a question, it might have been the host, 772 00:39:18,138 --> 00:39:21,018 do romance books always end with a happy ending? 773 00:39:21,018 --> 00:39:22,938 And all three authors said yes. 774 00:39:22,938 --> 00:39:27,688 So I'm assuming you're going to get the happy ending because it seems like maybe 775 00:39:27,688 --> 00:39:30,070 that's a requirement for romance books. 776 00:39:30,070 --> 00:39:36,014 And 13 pages we will know and I'll text you tonight. 777 00:39:37,596 --> 00:39:41,259 We talked about a lot of epic books in this episode. 778 00:39:41,259 --> 00:39:44,982 I beg of you if you're not already following us on Instagram at plans are 779 00:39:44,982 --> 00:39:45,262 booked. 780 00:39:45,262 --> 00:39:48,785 This is where we share photos of all the books we discussed so you can see what 781 00:39:48,785 --> 00:39:49,382 cover you're 782 00:39:49,382 --> 00:39:50,342 the people are. 783 00:39:50,342 --> 00:39:53,785 We share books with every single book that we mention here, and all the answers are 784 00:39:53,785 --> 00:39:54,665 saved to our books. 785 00:39:54,665 --> 00:39:56,626 You can find it in your picture. 786 00:39:56,987 --> 00:39:57,847 We do it for you. 787 00:39:57,847 --> 00:40:01,330 We want you to find all the stuff that you're interested in and be able to 788 00:40:01,330 --> 00:40:02,309 navigate your future. 789 00:40:02,309 --> 00:40:03,489 us a follow there. 790 00:40:03,790 --> 00:40:06,630 Um, and shoot us a note if there's a book that you're reading and you love and you 791 00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:10,692 think we should read, or you want us to talk about, or if you have thoughts on the 792 00:40:10,692 --> 00:40:14,913 idea of you trailer, we would love to hear it and perhaps we'll share your thoughts 793 00:40:14,913 --> 00:40:17,781 on air if you feel so inclined to tell us how you feel. 794 00:40:17,781 --> 00:40:19,482 if you're a subscriber, please go subscribe to our channel and tell us how 795 00:40:19,482 --> 00:40:19,642 you get. 796 00:40:19,642 --> 00:40:22,944 Honestly guys, I don't think I've had one book recommended to me. 797 00:40:23,104 --> 00:40:27,968 And I've influenced so many people to read books through this podcast. 798 00:40:27,968 --> 00:40:30,749 People keep telling me, oh I'm reading this because like you guys talked about it 799 00:40:30,749 --> 00:40:31,670 on the pod. 800 00:40:32,431 --> 00:40:37,634 is usually one, you listen to the pod, and two, thank you so much, I feel like an 801 00:40:37,634 --> 00:40:42,257 influencer, but nobody is giving us book ideas and I'm getting sick of it. 802 00:40:42,257 --> 00:40:45,639 Putting my foot down, 20 episodes, somebody should give us some book 803 00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:48,561 recommendations. 804 00:40:48,561 --> 00:40:50,082 Yes, thank you. 805 00:40:50,082 --> 00:40:54,806 Oh my God, just a little, a quick note, just to drop us a little Insta something 806 00:40:54,806 --> 00:40:55,726 something. 807 00:40:55,886 --> 00:40:56,947 We'd love it. 808 00:40:57,387 --> 00:40:58,908 Until next time, our plans are booked. 809 00:40:58,908 --> 00:40:59,568 Bye.