Ryan D. Hurd speaks with Brian Gilan, a sleep tech professional and founder of Tech for Dreaming. The discussion reviews the current best sleep tracking devices and dream apps as well as the future of dream tech, including the nascent field of "dream engineering."
In this episode, we discuss:
- Brian's recent dark retreat experience and why he went without any tech hooked up
- Why lucid dreaming tech is kinda a cursed field and full of broken promises
- The best sleep trackers on the market, and the surprising feature that makes them successful
- The promise of AI and machine learning in the fields of sleep optimization and collective dream research
- What's next in dream tech (with some cautious optimism sprinkled in)
About the host: Ryan D. Hurd is a dream researcher, author, and educator. The Dream Studies Podcast explores dreams, consciousness, and the imagination, bridging 21st century science with intuitive ways of knowing. More to explore at
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