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You're listening to The Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun in practical
ways. We're the best of friends.

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There you go, we are the
best of friends. I don't know what

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that's from. I just made it
up. Okay, well that's even more

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special. Did you just sing me
a song about being best friends? I

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did? Jeff whoa said jeffy?
So that is a perfect segue into we

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have a segment called the Best Friends
Trivia, which, by the way,

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it's a touch presumptuous, but yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Well

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the reason why I said those things
is because I read it and I go,

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what this is a brand new segment. We've never done this one.

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That's right, that's right. So
here's what Desire wrote. While there's no

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duo quite like Jeff and Chris,
there are some pretty good best friend duos

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out there. Yes, So let's
see if Chris can determine which popular best

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friends said each quote. And so
I'm going to read the quote and I'll

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give you the two best friends.
Okay, okay, that's by the way.

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I I this is new to me, and I hope I can or

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do you want me to give you
the best friends and then read the quote,

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or do you want to try to
guess the quote before I even give

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you the two? You give me
the quote and I will see if I

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know the best friends before, and
then then I probably won't. And then

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you tell me who and then I'll
guess the person. Okay, how about

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that? Hands down? This is
the best day of my life and quite

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possibly the last. Oh. I
already know that. I've watched that a

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thousand that is Olaf says that,
jeez, I don't know Olaf's best friend

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Anna, Annah. There you go
Annah. Okay, very good. They

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chose Wait a minute, Oloff's best
friend was Anna. That's that's the that's

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what she's That's what I didn't write
these, dude, I'm just reading them.

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I got the quote. Take the
point, man, it's a win.

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It's definitely a win. Okay,
but I just would not have chose

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Okay, this one, this one, this one will work. We're a

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team. Nothing means more to me
than our friendship. That could be anyone

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at any time, in anywhere.
We're a team. Nothing means more to

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me than this friendship. So that's
the ones overbearing. I don't know.

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I don't want to waste somebody or
Mike. Oh, that's hilarious. Who

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is more enthusiastic? Mike would have
been more enthusiastic. I'm would say Mike,

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Mike. It is Michael. Oh
good job, good job, you're

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two for two. All right,
Okay, h Only a true friend would

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say something that cruel and honest.
That sounds familiar. It is only a

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true friend would say something that true
and honest, that cruel and honest,

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cruel and honest. I don't know
who's It's either Donkey or Shrek. Oh,

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that's funny. That would Shrek is
the mean one. Donkey there you

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go. Uh, No, you
didn't get me. If you get me,

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you kill me. I don't know
that one. I've never heard that

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quote, but I know the people. I don't. To be honest,

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that doesn't embell It's either Joey or
Chandler. Okay, and read it again.

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No you didn't get me. If
you get me, you kill me.

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Okay. I I know Joey and
Chandler very very well. Yeah,

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and just based on the fact that
that does not even remotely sound like a

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Joey quote, I'm gonna say Chandler, Yes, it is Chandler. Yes,

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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was the one. That's

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the logic right there. I didn't
know that. I've never don't even know

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that quote. I don't I know
this one. I know this one.

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Okay. He has gone from completely
hopeless to simply miserable. Wow. Yeah,

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these are tough ones. These are
tough. This is why I have

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to give you the names. You
want the names. Yes, it's either

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Dwight or Jim. Oh that's hilarious. And I know the office very well.

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Okay, say yeah, he has
gone from completely hopeless to simply miserable.

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It's gone completely that's very mean.
And so my guess is that Dwight

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said about Jeff Dwight. Yes,
there you go. You got them all

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and you piece it together, dude
without even knowing. Yeah, yeah,

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Donnie, I know the first Donkey, Chandler and Dwight. Yeah yeah,

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and Mike you got Mike too,
A piece of them together, fantastic.

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It's it's your instincts are just that
good. You know these, You know

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these personalities so well. I know
that's right, right, Yeah, I

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do think it's funny. I made
that joke about cartoons, and then three

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of the five were from car cartoons. In the morning, I'm making waffles.

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There you go, donkey, so
funny, there you go. It's

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good. Okay, So best friends
right there, that's what that's all about.

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And uh apparently we're keeping the show
up pretty good because that's right.

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Thinks we're like best friends. Oh
that's pretty that's very sweet. A yeah,

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how nice. Okay, Oh wait
a minute. That is the song

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We're the Best of Friends, and
it's from a cartoon, the Best of

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Friend. Yes, that is a
song sung by Mama Aol in The Fox

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and the Hound Wow, from nineteen
eighty one. There you go. Look

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how wonderful you are. That's what
it is. Friends. Hey, if

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somebody doubts me, google it.
I'm telling you I nailed it. You

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nailed They were the best of friends. That's what it is. Okay,

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So you didn't write that song for
me in the moment, I sang it

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to my heart. You sing it
from your heart? Yes, okay,

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okay. We are reading from John
chapter thirteen one through twenty, and this

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is mineing Chris's favorite passage and the
entire Gospels. This is this whole story.

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We just if we could relive this
story every day, and you're going

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to find out why that is not
a true statement as soon as we read

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it. John thirteen one says before
the passover celebration, Jesus knew that is

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Our had come to leave this world
and returned to his Father. He had

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loved his disciples during his ministry on
earth, and now he loved them to

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the very end. It was time
for supper, and the devil had already

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prompted Judas, son of Simon,
a scariot, to betray Jesus. Jesus

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knew that the Father had given him
authority over everything that he'd come from God,

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and we returned to God. So
he got up from the table,

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took off his robe, wrapped the
towel around his waist, and poured water

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into a basin. And then he
began to wash the disciples feet, drying

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them with the towel he had around
him. When Jesus came to Simon Peter,

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Peter said to him, Lord,
are you going to wash my feet?

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Jesus replied, you don't understand now
what I am doing, but someday

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you will. No Peter protested,
you will never ever wash my feet.

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Jesus replied, unless I wash you
you won't belong to me, Simon Peter

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exclaimed, Then wash my hands in
my head as well, Lord, not

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just my feet, Jesus replied.
A person who has bathed all over does

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not need to wash except for the
feet to be entirely clean. And you,

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disciples are clean, but not all
of you. For Jesus knew whould

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betray him. That is what he
meant when he said, not all of

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you are clean. After washing their
feet, he put on his robe again

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and sat down and asked, do
you understand what I was doing? You

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call me teacher and lord, and
you're right, because that's what I am.

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And since I your lord and teacher, have washed your feet, you

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ought to wash each other's feet.
I have given you an example to follow.

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Do as I've done to you.
I tell you the truth. Slaves

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are not greater than their master,
nor is the messenger more important than the

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one who sends the message. Now
that you know these things, God will

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bless you for doing them. I'm
not saying these things to all of you.

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I know the ones I've chosen.
But this fulfills the scripture that says,

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the one who eats my food has
turned against me. I tell you

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this beforehand, so that when it
happens, you'll believe that I am the

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Messiah. I tell you the truth. Anyone who welcomes my messenger is welcoming

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me. Anyone who welcomes me as
well welcoming the father who sent me.

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Wow, there it is, Okay. It's our favorite because because I hate

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feet. I hate feet more than
the lega side. So my wife's feet

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are the only feet that can come
near me. And even then, if

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I'm sitting there on the couch and
she grabs her bare feet and she puts

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them up on me, it's every
instinct is like, get your feet off

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of me. Wow. And if
she says, hey, just rub my

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feet or something like, that's cool. It's my wife's feet. I can

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rub. I can rub her feet, right. And I'm sure my kids

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have never asked me to do that, but I'm sure if that happened,

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I'd be fine with it. But
feet in general, I just I just

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well, I loathe feet. I
don't just I don't just say not my

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favorite. I don't like feet like
I open toe sandals, all that stuff.

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If somebody has gnarly nasty feet and
and uh, and I've seen people

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wear like sandals, flip flops,
and then they like even put like their

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nasty feet up on a coffee table. I'm telling you, I'm ready to

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swing. Wow. I mean,
I just I'm I'm just like, I

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literally can't believe your nasty, crusty
feet around that table. So yeah,

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it's it's really it's really bad for
me. Now, however, that's not

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it's actually not the reason why I
don't unlessarily love that passage. Let me

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let me, let me take away
all of my feelings about feet, let

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me take them all away, okay, and just tell you this. So

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and I said this right before we
read this, is that my son Steve

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and my daughter Tory, uh,
they went to Haiti and two separate occasions,

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and they did a foot washing ceremony, and they said, outside of

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their own salvation and baptism, that
was the most spiritual experience they've ever had.

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It was the most meaningful, and
it was wonderful. And and they'll

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they'll even cry talking about it like
that's how specially it was, right,

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And I and I do believe that, by the way, I believe that

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anything, by the way, not
just foot washing, anything can have that

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effect on you, right, if
if you were to teach, like,

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for instance, the passover meal.
Have you ever have you ever been one

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of those Jews for Jesus sat meal? Yeh, we're getting ready to do

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on what the elders Yes, yes, says yes, okay, Now you

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could you could experience that without any
teaching and be like, I don't even

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know what this is, or you
can like spend an hour and a half

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learning this significance of everything on that
plate and on that table, and then

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when you experience it, you could
be overwhelmed to the point of tears because

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it is so special, right,
and which, by the way, I've

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experienced and it could be anything.
So so washing feet can be something that's

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significant if you learn the significance of
what it truly means. Because washing feet

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in and of itself is not special. It's what it represents, right,

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So unpack what does it represent?
Yeah? So, so here's the reason

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why I'm taking my emotions out of
it, of me not liking feet,

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and I'm saying, what's in agreement
with you on yes? Yes, yes,

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okay? So it was it was
number one. Washing feet in that

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day was something that everybody did all
the time because the roads were dusty,

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and people were sandals in the Middle
East and they would be out along a

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long journey or whatever, you know, working. Most likely they would come

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in through a home and to sit
down and not wash your feet. Not

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only was it, you know,
it was actually ceremonial, right. So

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the exhaust that came from donkeys and
camels, yes, was all over the

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street. Yes, exhaust is my
phrase, my delicate phrase. Yes.

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And so you're walking into open shoes, yes, and so yeah, you

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need to get that off your feet
while your trips around inside the house.

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And let's not forget also, tables
were close to the ground, which means

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that they sat down on the floor, oftentimes to eat. So it's not

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like, you know, you sit
at a restaurant table and your feet are

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just out of sight. You're talking
like your feet's going to be touching somebody

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right there. And so washing feet
was we know this according to tradition,

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it was reserved for the servants.
But not just that, but what the

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lowest, the lowest servant, the
lowest job, the lowest job on the

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totem pole. So if you're in
a really rich house and let's just say

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you have three or four servants assisting
the meal. The absolute lowest thing that

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you can do is wash somebody's feet. Why because it was the most you

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know, it was the dirtiest job. Yeah right, So therefore the symbolism

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doesn't make sense today. Nobody washes
feet. Today, we all have shoes

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and socks. The worlds are paved, right, This is not customary,

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it's not ceremonious. Right, So
therefore a thing can be just as special

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to serve What is the equivalent of
serving another person today? What is the

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lowliest job? Because that's why it
was significant. It was significant that the

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savior of the world, the highest
of high, would make himself to be

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the lowest of low. It just
so happened that it was that tradition.

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That's right, that's right. And
they're eating in a rich man's home,

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and apparently the servants in the rich
man's home didn't do it well, or

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Jesus insisted, yeah, hey,
give me that towel. Yeah right,

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because I couldn't imagine him not providing
that service for them. Right, But

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either way, I'm gonna sneeze.
Oh here you go, excuse me,

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bless you, thank you, he
does, but so do I thank you.

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Thank you. So anyway, the
point is is that is that so

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have I have this thing where I
don't like feet. But more than that,

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I'm not against foot washing in a
ceremony at all. I just hope

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that everybody understands that if you run
into somebody a part of a church that

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says, oh, foot washing is
an ordinance in our church, well that's

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fine. There's nothing wrong with that. I mean, I guess you could

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argue that, but you know,
Jesus established communion, he established baptism.

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You know, you could make an
argument and say foot washing is something that

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we do. That's fine. I'm
not gonna get upset about that. I'm

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just saying it's the only thing that's
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our culture. I mean in other
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same kind of situation, but in
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this is where I wanted to go
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argues that Jesus expects his followers to
get baptized, right, that's an ordinance

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of the church. And then the
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the Lord's Supper or the Last supper
communion. Right, Jesus said, do

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this in remembrance and me. He's
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it, do it remembers me.
Now. Of course they would have done

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it often because they celebrate the pass
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every time you do this, I
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just understand that I'm the one.
And so we've adopted that as an ordinance,

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this one. Some churches would say, do as I have done to

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you, right, as was saying, so I want you to wash each

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other's feet, And people go,
oh my goodness, that that's an ordinance

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too. We're supposed to wash each
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and it's a significant difference. Jesus
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an example. Follow right. So
it's not the ordinance of get baptized.

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It's not the ordinance of observed communion
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follow this example. The most powerful
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That's the example. And this was
the so's he's setting up an example here,

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not an ordinance. And there's a
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I think. But hey, you
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thing for you. I'm not going
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If I don't have to, I
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in a situation where it would be
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Yeah. I've had a couple of
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it was a deeply spiritual thing for
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a way to scoot out of it, you know, back before I was

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a pastor and stuff. So,
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ways to serve. You can serve
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serve you. And this is the
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is that we serve one another.
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is saying. Here is the example. The other big piece of this is

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Peter going, no, no,
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my feet, right, And Jesus
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you're not even gonna make it to
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a humility in allowing it, right. And unless you're humble enough to allow

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Jesus to wash you, you could
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that's the other side of it.
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even Peter's like, nah, dude, you're not touching my head. Yeah,

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well, I mean, and think
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So Jesus dies on the cross to
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it's in a way you can say
it's a foreshadowing because Jesus not only does

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he serve humanity, but he's about
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the lowest that you can go,
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so Jesus serves us in every way. And so when he says an example,

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I think the example has depth.
I think that you could. I

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don't think he did it for the
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on the cross, I don't think. But what I'm saying is is it's

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an example of Jesus serving us.
What does Philippians to say? He goes

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from the highest high to the lowest
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not just any death, but even
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So I think I think the concept
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us is demonstrated in no greater way
than him taking upon our sin and paying

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for it on the cross, and
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if I don't wash you, then
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And that's what that's what he's really
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if you don't allow me to serve
you, right, then you can't be

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you know, be a part of
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way, let me just also say
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on me not ever doing foot washing. I don't want people to listen,

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right, So we have I don't
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day that listen, right, So
there are people around the world that listen

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that you know, we may have
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be like Chris or Jeff don't like
foot washing. And yet that's one of

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the most special things in the world
to me. Perfectly fine, It's perfectly

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fine, like I said, my
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mean, I can't get any more
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I honor and respect and and and
love to even hear them talk about it

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how special it was, which means
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preference to do that, and I
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unpack it in a way that says
you can serve people other ways because of

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everything else. It does not mean
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you. Maybe you're a foot person, right, maybe you love feet,

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I don't know, Maybe maybe you
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the literal action that Jesus did,
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really a connection, right because you're
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that's cool. I just I don't
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now, Chris, why are you
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me? Right, I don't want
to. I don't want to take that

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away from anybody, right right.
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just because I don't necessarily care for
it, let me say it another

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way. If my team, which
the team, the team that you know,

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the staff that I'm a part of
the team, my team on my

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staff, if they were to come
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a foot washing ritual and we we
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I wouldn't push back against that I
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you know, are you sure you
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But if they wanted to do it, it'd be totally fine. Try to

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put my stamp of approval on it. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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not against it. Just don't want
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just it's your preferences, and it's
because of So there's a note here in

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John thirteen in the Life Application Study
Bible. Imagine being Peter and watching Jesus

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wash the other's feet, all while
moving closer to you. Seeing his master

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behave like a slave must have confused
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Jesus teaching that to be a leader, a person must first be a servant.

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This is not a comfortable passage for
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others beneath them. How do you
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children, employees, are volunteers.
That's the message Jesus is trying toscend,

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is you serve. The world thinks
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everybody's below, And Jesus said,
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The leader is the one who comes
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right, it's a normal thing.
Though. This would have happened for Peter

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every time he went into somebody's home. That's right, every time he went

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into somebody, somebody would have watched
his feet. Right. So it wasn't

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a weird thing for him or an
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normal. This was not the tradition
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spiritual thing at all. Jesus made
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spiritual. This moment was because he
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The example is the greatest among us, serve the rest of us. Right.

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And by the way, I found
a note here in the Life Application

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Study Bible because I referred to that
Jesus dying on the cross, and it

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says when Jesus responded, unless I
wash you, you won't belong to me,

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he may have met Number one that
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his death on the cross, then
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which is what I said. And
then number two that unless Peter submitted to

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him and allowed Jesus to minister in
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lesson of humility. Either way,
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words, for he then wanted to
be bathed completely. And then it references

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what Peter said. Yeah, so
there it is. I wasn't too far

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off there. So that second meaning, you know, he says you won't

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belong to me. What he's saying
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if you refuse the humility that this
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going to be a servants, which
he's not saying heaven here. So some

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of theologians would say it is a
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I'm not sure I entirely believe that's
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have mentioned the cross or his death
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he doesn't. So it seems like
what he's saying is if you can't identify

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at the servant level, you're never
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Yeah, And I think that either
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it's probable or more likely, yeah, I'm totally fine. So the big

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picture is as we wrap up,
the big picture is take Jesus example,

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and serve the people around you.
That's what's right, that's right. And

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then also to be overwhelmed always with
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this, but modeled this for us. And by the way, in a

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time where that was brand new information. Because chances are you grew up and

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you've heard of servant leadership because Christianity
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so you've heard of it. It's
not a new concept. But imagine in

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the first century that was like,
like you know, for for somebody to

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say, don't look down on a
servant in order to lead, you must

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be a servant first and last and
exalted and humbled. All that was paradoxal

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and brand new information. Even to
love your enemies, serve your enemies,

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pray for them, that was brand
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the unbelievable teaching here that Peter had
to have wrapped his mind around, and

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the others. Uh, we should
never take that for granted because it's it's

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an it's a revolutionary concept. So
all right, well, that's all our

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time for today, and so hopefully
we'll see you next week. On the

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Bible guys,