1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,140 Hey everybody, it's Cheri Dotterer here at Tier One Interventions podcast. 2 00:00:04,379 --> 00:00:09,690 I'm here today with Jonily Zupancic and we are in class today with a live 3 00:00:09,690 --> 00:00:14,430 group of ladies and gentlemen who are learning about the Mastery Math method. 4 00:00:14,730 --> 00:00:19,259 So I'm gonna let Jonily talk and if there's any intervention that I wanna add 5 00:00:19,259 --> 00:00:26,610 to the puzzle, we will do but for now, I'm signing it all over to Jonily and let 6 00:00:26,610 --> 00:00:28,650 us learn a little bit about mathematics. 7 00:00:28,650 --> 00:00:29,190 Girl. 8 00:00:29,700 --> 00:00:31,140 Y'all, this is Jay-Z. 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,810 I'm Jonily Zupancic, I'm your math specialist, your main Mathineer. 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:40,385 I if you are listening to this podcast or you're watching this podcast on YouTube I 11 00:00:40,385 --> 00:00:42,875 want to give a disclaimer and a warning. 12 00:00:43,475 --> 00:00:44,675 This is level two. 13 00:00:44,675 --> 00:00:49,175 You're listening in on a level two version of Mastery Math method. 14 00:00:49,835 --> 00:00:51,425 Let me do a little side hustle. 15 00:00:52,235 --> 00:00:55,595 Okay, let me do a little side hustle and I'm gonna draw this line because 16 00:00:55,595 --> 00:00:59,315 I wanna make sure that these extra numbers are not in the locker boxes. 17 00:00:59,494 --> 00:01:00,725 Here's a little side hustle. 18 00:01:00,725 --> 00:01:02,585 I could ask the question. 19 00:01:02,975 --> 00:01:08,614 Okay, what is the 47th Locker? 20 00:01:09,155 --> 00:01:10,235 Watch this, guys. 21 00:01:10,265 --> 00:01:11,105 Watch this. 22 00:01:11,284 --> 00:01:15,305 Listen, what is the 47th locker? 23 00:01:16,250 --> 00:01:30,800 That student 23 touches, what is the 47th locker that student 23 touches? 24 00:01:31,730 --> 00:01:33,829 Why do I ask this question now? 25 00:01:33,829 --> 00:01:37,940 Because this is an answer getting in solving question and it's okay now. 26 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,460 But I ask this question now because now I'm using this reference task 27 00:01:43,460 --> 00:01:45,620 to teach my fourth grade standards. 28 00:01:45,860 --> 00:01:51,680 This is directly fourth grade standards, two digit by two digit multiplication. 29 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,170 So now I'm asking a locker problem question that is directly going to 30 00:01:57,170 --> 00:02:01,160 relate to my specific standards. 31 00:02:01,970 --> 00:02:03,650 This is the beauty of reference task. 32 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,380 This is what reference task reference tasks will do to 33 00:02:06,470 --> 00:02:08,810 for us the locker problem. 34 00:02:08,810 --> 00:02:12,620 Now I can start to generate locker problem questions for every grade 35 00:02:12,620 --> 00:02:17,390 level that are gonna target various standards at every single grade level. 36 00:02:18,110 --> 00:02:20,450 This question, what's the 47th blocker student? 37 00:02:20,450 --> 00:02:21,440 23 touches? 38 00:02:21,650 --> 00:02:25,610 If I have third graders, they don't have to master that standard yet, but 39 00:02:25,610 --> 00:02:29,360 I can have third graders investigating how to multiply two digit by two digit 40 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:34,640 number 'cause they could actually skip count by 20 threes, 47 times and be able 41 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:38,930 to do this and practice their double digit and triple digit edition skills. 42 00:02:40,699 --> 00:02:45,739 So I can use the locker problem reference task to then spring 43 00:02:45,769 --> 00:02:48,979 out and teach my standards. 44 00:02:49,219 --> 00:02:52,309 Now I want, I wanna talk more about that. 45 00:02:53,119 --> 00:02:55,159 We'll do that this year in level two. 46 00:02:55,159 --> 00:02:58,159 A few months from now, when we come back to locker problem, we're 47 00:02:58,159 --> 00:02:59,750 gonna start with this game board. 48 00:02:59,869 --> 00:03:03,409 We're not doing it next session 'cause we need interleaving, 49 00:03:04,429 --> 00:03:05,989 we need spaced practice. 50 00:03:06,290 --> 00:03:09,769 But maybe at the December session, we're gonna come back to 51 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,569 lockers, pizzas and rectangles. 52 00:03:11,630 --> 00:03:12,290 Oh my. 53 00:03:12,529 --> 00:03:15,170 Because today we didn't even get to the pizzas. 54 00:03:15,199 --> 00:03:15,829 Rectangles. 55 00:03:15,829 --> 00:03:16,309 Oh my. 56 00:03:16,579 --> 00:03:18,380 But we're not gonna do it next month. 57 00:03:18,949 --> 00:03:21,079 We're doing something totally different next month because 58 00:03:21,079 --> 00:03:22,460 I practice interleaving. 59 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,059 So November, December, when we come back to this one, we'll 60 00:03:26,059 --> 00:03:30,170 start right here with this game board and then I'll go on from it. 61 00:03:30,949 --> 00:03:36,439 So right now, all I'm gonna do is I'm gonna save this and this 62 00:03:36,439 --> 00:03:37,939 is what I do in my classroom. 63 00:03:38,210 --> 00:03:38,449 Okay? 64 00:03:38,449 --> 00:03:43,409 This might be like, a day in my classroom and I might say, oh my gosh guys, for 65 00:03:43,409 --> 00:03:47,009 the next two weeks we need to get, we need to get back into the book. 66 00:03:47,460 --> 00:03:49,949 I get back into the textbook, okay we got it. 67 00:03:49,979 --> 00:03:52,289 We gotta just do regular math for the next two weeks. 68 00:03:52,469 --> 00:03:52,949 Okay? 69 00:03:53,369 --> 00:03:54,539 So we're gonna put this aside. 70 00:03:54,539 --> 00:03:56,279 And they're gonna be like, why do we ever have to do regular? 71 00:03:56,279 --> 00:03:57,719 Why can't we just always do this math? 72 00:03:57,719 --> 00:03:58,699 And I'm like I don't know. 73 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,199 We should, we can. 74 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,519 Because actually in my classroom I won't do that. 75 00:04:04,519 --> 00:04:06,710 I'm pressing snooze 'cause my alarm's going off and I have 76 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:08,060 to wrap up in nine minutes. 77 00:04:08,479 --> 00:04:13,790 But in my classroom we actually won't go back into the book for two weeks. 78 00:04:13,819 --> 00:04:15,229 That's just not how I operate. 79 00:04:16,460 --> 00:04:20,079 But that's overwhelming for a lot of people, especially you type a 80 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:23,739 control freaks, you need me to give you permission to just get back into 81 00:04:23,739 --> 00:04:25,510 your textbook alone for two weeks. 82 00:04:25,540 --> 00:04:26,350 So there you go. 83 00:04:26,350 --> 00:04:27,279 Take the permission. 84 00:04:27,679 --> 00:04:32,239 It's not advice because I don't do that, but I know many of you need it. 85 00:04:32,239 --> 00:04:33,919 So go ahead, do it. 86 00:04:34,579 --> 00:04:36,409 So any who? 87 00:04:36,919 --> 00:04:40,129 I don't even know what my point is 'cause my alarm went off and my brain 88 00:04:40,129 --> 00:04:44,089 is so sleep deprived right now that I don't even know what's happening. 89 00:04:44,119 --> 00:04:44,749 Oh, okay. 90 00:04:44,749 --> 00:04:44,809 So 91 00:04:51,349 --> 00:04:52,219 this is level two. 92 00:04:53,479 --> 00:04:54,319 This is level two. 93 00:04:54,979 --> 00:04:56,659 This is what we're gonna get in level two. 94 00:04:58,819 --> 00:05:01,699 Thoughts, comments, questions, takeaways? 95 00:05:04,789 --> 00:05:10,849 I think by the time I bring something like this up, we'll have done the one 20 96 00:05:10,849 --> 00:05:17,389 chart and those like other items that I am hoping kids get the connection of the 97 00:05:17,389 --> 00:05:19,999 skip counting and circling the numbers. 98 00:05:21,859 --> 00:05:23,209 That is a great point. 99 00:05:24,364 --> 00:05:27,034 That's exactly why that, that's exactly the purpose. 100 00:05:27,184 --> 00:05:28,085 Beautifully said. 101 00:05:28,444 --> 00:05:30,064 Other takeaways, thoughts? 102 00:05:39,965 --> 00:05:43,144 I am very happy with all the math. 103 00:05:43,654 --> 00:05:46,145 I did so something with Pam Harris and she's sometimes you 104 00:05:46,145 --> 00:05:47,405 just, I just need a high dose. 105 00:05:47,405 --> 00:05:48,425 You in math, right? 106 00:05:48,425 --> 00:05:52,595 You just need a higher dose and I needed that higher dose and 107 00:05:52,595 --> 00:05:55,715 we'll need that higher dose so I can just keep leveling up. 108 00:05:55,715 --> 00:05:56,855 I love the leveling up. 109 00:05:56,855 --> 00:05:57,725 I love the math. 110 00:05:58,055 --> 00:05:59,135 You high dose me. 111 00:05:59,135 --> 00:06:00,125 I'm excited. 112 00:06:00,125 --> 00:06:01,445 Let's do this. 113 00:06:03,395 --> 00:06:04,655 Beautifully said. 114 00:06:05,345 --> 00:06:05,615 Other 115 00:06:05,615 --> 00:06:06,755 thoughts, takeaways. 116 00:06:07,355 --> 00:06:09,755 I'm just loving the idea of level up. 117 00:06:10,175 --> 00:06:13,265 That is been like the theme of this entire week. 118 00:06:13,595 --> 00:06:17,555 And so Natalie, thank you for putting the icing on this level up cake. 119 00:06:24,035 --> 00:06:26,345 Those are spirit fingers. 120 00:06:27,245 --> 00:06:28,355 Jazz, hands are different. 121 00:06:28,355 --> 00:06:29,975 Kirk, we'll help you out. 122 00:06:33,425 --> 00:06:34,835 Other takeaways, thoughts? 123 00:06:40,115 --> 00:06:41,975 Beth, are you overwhelmed? 124 00:06:41,980 --> 00:06:43,110 Beth probably got bulldozed. 125 00:06:44,020 --> 00:06:45,935 Beth is I need therapy after this. 126 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,760 But students will love this more. 127 00:06:49,790 --> 00:06:53,780 They will love this more than sit and get because they're actually 128 00:06:53,780 --> 00:06:55,940 thinking and they really want to think. 129 00:06:57,530 --> 00:06:58,340 Yes, they 130 00:06:58,340 --> 00:06:58,760 do. 131 00:06:59,570 --> 00:07:01,070 They wanna be like everybody else. 132 00:07:02,630 --> 00:07:03,050 Yeah. 133 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:11,300 So yeah, I'm gonna go back and look at the level one and see if I can just 134 00:07:11,300 --> 00:07:12,950 integrate all this stuff together. 135 00:07:14,510 --> 00:07:15,530 Thank you Theresa. 136 00:07:18,770 --> 00:07:19,340 Kathy. 137 00:07:19,490 --> 00:07:20,330 Thank you Kathy. 138 00:07:20,900 --> 00:07:21,470 Sorry 139 00:07:22,100 --> 00:07:22,490 Beth. 140 00:07:22,490 --> 00:07:24,020 We're so glad you're here. 141 00:07:24,020 --> 00:07:25,200 And this is overwhelming. 142 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,400 If this is your like first interaction with this is craziness. 143 00:07:28,610 --> 00:07:30,920 You are a trooper because you didn't hang up on us either. 144 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:31,820 You stuck around. 145 00:07:32,420 --> 00:07:33,010 Oh no. 146 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:34,300 You're awesome. 147 00:07:34,300 --> 00:07:35,110 I love you girl. 148 00:07:35,540 --> 00:07:39,540 I think it's important to say that we're all on this journey together. 149 00:07:40,110 --> 00:07:45,960 And when I facilitate and teach level two, these are all the things 150 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,910 that I've always wanted to tell you. 151 00:07:48,810 --> 00:07:51,720 But I always have an audience of level one. 152 00:07:52,410 --> 00:07:54,090 Actually, I always have a level. 153 00:07:54,390 --> 00:07:58,020 Actually, I, Ty you all are a level two. 154 00:07:58,290 --> 00:08:02,850 So Beth, no offense, but you're here with all level two people right now. 155 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:03,420 Okay? 156 00:08:03,450 --> 00:08:04,530 Yes, I get it. 157 00:08:04,530 --> 00:08:07,020 And we welcome you and we love you and we want you to keep coming. 158 00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:07,950 Don't stop coming. 159 00:08:08,670 --> 00:08:12,090 But in many scenarios that this group is in. 160 00:08:14,130 --> 00:08:16,440 A lot of times it's a level negative three. 161 00:08:17,850 --> 00:08:18,600 Okay? 162 00:08:19,620 --> 00:08:22,020 Hey everybody, it's Cheri again. 163 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:27,240 If you're loving these strategies and you want to join our Mastery 164 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:33,450 Math Method Masterclass, we hold this hour long event once a month 165 00:08:33,510 --> 00:08:35,400 and we'd love to have you join. 166 00:08:35,970 --> 00:08:40,005 What we talk about there is how to improve your math skills in 10 days. 167 00:08:40,890 --> 00:08:45,210 Can you imagine 10 days, whether you are a math teacher or an occupational 168 00:08:45,210 --> 00:08:50,190 therapist, you can see exactly how to shift teaching so that every student, 169 00:08:50,340 --> 00:08:55,320 no matter their starting point, can master core math concepts and reserve. 170 00:08:56,100 --> 00:09:02,340 So reserve your seat today and go over to disability labs.com/calendar 171 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,710 to check out the next event. 172 00:09:06,985 --> 00:09:07,315 And that's 173 00:09:07,315 --> 00:09:08,815 not fair to all of you. 174 00:09:09,115 --> 00:09:13,345 That's why we're doing level two of mastery math method this year, and 175 00:09:13,345 --> 00:09:18,835 that's why you are all here with us because it's not fair to you to 176 00:09:18,835 --> 00:09:20,425 always have the audience of level. 177 00:09:20,485 --> 00:09:26,795 So Saturday maths, actually Saturday maths are like, they're level zero one. 178 00:09:26,855 --> 00:09:28,835 They're I think Saturday maths. 179 00:09:28,835 --> 00:09:32,975 I force myself not to present as a, to like level negative three, 180 00:09:33,245 --> 00:09:34,505 even though some of them are. 181 00:09:34,925 --> 00:09:37,805 But it's important to know that is our purpose. 182 00:09:37,805 --> 00:09:42,005 That's the purpose Cheri and I have for doing level two. 183 00:09:42,545 --> 00:09:44,795 Other thoughts, comments, questions, takeaways? 184 00:09:50,075 --> 00:09:51,395 I like what Natalie says. 185 00:09:51,395 --> 00:09:52,475 Keep coming back. 186 00:09:52,895 --> 00:09:55,325 We also need interactions over time. 187 00:09:55,655 --> 00:09:58,235 None of us got here in one or two sessions. 188 00:09:58,475 --> 00:10:02,285 I've been working with Jonily for seven years, I think, and I 189 00:10:02,285 --> 00:10:04,475 still learn and grow each time. 190 00:10:05,675 --> 00:10:07,985 Yes, that's how long it takes, Beth. 191 00:10:07,985 --> 00:10:08,735 You're welcome. 192 00:10:10,805 --> 00:10:11,285 Thank you. 193 00:10:15,450 --> 00:10:15,990 Oh boy. 194 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:16,595 And implementing 195 00:10:16,595 --> 00:10:17,885 what you've learned now. 196 00:10:17,915 --> 00:10:19,445 Okay, so everybody. 197 00:10:21,125 --> 00:10:25,715 Beth came to me at the end of the school year and said, can I get my dysgraphia 198 00:10:25,715 --> 00:10:27,635 certification before school starts? 199 00:10:27,635 --> 00:10:33,030 I went, there's planning on taking the summer off, but okay, can we master this? 200 00:10:33,150 --> 00:10:35,010 She did it in six weeks. 201 00:10:35,010 --> 00:10:36,780 That's even faster than Theresa did it 202 00:10:39,150 --> 00:10:40,530 know I did mine in 10 weeks. 203 00:10:41,820 --> 00:10:49,020 She has been so inundated with Cheri over the last couple of months that 204 00:10:50,940 --> 00:10:54,270 I'm surprised she's still around and she's coming back for more. 205 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:58,455 It's become a habit. 206 00:11:01,315 --> 00:11:07,170 It follows what there said, listen, a habit, you wanna keep biting the lollipop. 207 00:11:08,135 --> 00:11:08,425 Yeah. 208 00:11:10,020 --> 00:11:10,950 It's like a drug. 209 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:13,170 That's right. 210 00:11:13,530 --> 00:11:13,890 It is. 211 00:11:13,890 --> 00:11:15,900 It's addicting as a matter of fact. 212 00:11:15,900 --> 00:11:15,960 Yeah, 213 00:11:16,070 --> 00:11:17,330 It's Saturday morning. 214 00:11:17,390 --> 00:11:20,270 I texted my curriculum director this morning and I said, 215 00:11:20,570 --> 00:11:21,830 I can't wait until Monday. 216 00:11:21,830 --> 00:11:23,270 Do we have to have weekends? 217 00:11:24,620 --> 00:11:24,770 My gosh. 218 00:11:24,770 --> 00:11:29,150 That's how addicted, that's how much I know right now that I am in 219 00:11:29,150 --> 00:11:30,830 the right place at the right time. 220 00:11:30,830 --> 00:11:37,610 Cheri, share your mantra, Esther, for such a time as this. 221 00:11:38,990 --> 00:11:40,340 I'm living that right now. 222 00:11:44,010 --> 00:11:47,299 This may be the end of our seven-part series, but it’s not 223 00:11:47,299 --> 00:11:48,540 the end of the conversation. 224 00:11:49,249 --> 00:11:53,909 Stay tuned for what’s next, whether it’s subtraction reimagined, fraction 225 00:11:53,909 --> 00:11:58,409 fluency, or something completely new, we promise to keep bringing 226 00:11:58,409 --> 00:12:02,180 you the brain-based strategies you need to transform math learning. 227 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:03,929 Until then, remember. 228 00:12:04,110 --> 00:12:07,450 every student deserves the chance to see themselves as a mathematician. 229 00:12:08,129 --> 00:12:11,049 And as Cheri and Jonily say, Go Be Awesome! 230 00:12:11,379 --> 00:12:12,209 Go Be Brilliant! 231 00:12:12,739 --> 00:12:15,030 For you were put here for such a time as this.