(upbeat music)
The money doesn't buy happiness.
But it kind of does.
I'm finding that that's a lie.
Why didn't you do that?
We did want to do that.
No, I've started not
caring quite as much.
Well, that was such a
quandary that I had.
Over that time, you
developed the strength
to carry that weight.
I do think that you
appreciate the value of time
as more time goes on.
We're the crazy train.
This is insanity.
I mean, there's money everywhere.
And so it's not like, it's true.
More money, more problems.
Okay, so now you're really
gonna, you're gonna judge me.
We're not that crazy, I
don't think, but yeah.
PDA on steroids.
But weird. One time he bit her cheek to the point
where I could see her
skin like pulling away.
It was weird.
You go with your bad self.
You go with it.
Oh, they're always
after me, Lucky Charms.
See ya.
In the can, is that what they say?
(laughing)
I don't know.
I don't think so.
I think that means
you're in the bathroom.
Welcome to the Mr. and
Mrs. English Podcast.
I'm Megan.
And I'm Sean.
We're here to talk about
the wild ride of raising kids
and growing careers,
keeping life together
in the middle of all the chaos.
So buckle up because we're all
in this crazy journey together.
All right.
You ready?
I think I'm ready.
Megan's been patiently
sitting here for at least 30 seconds
while I adjust my collar,
adjust my sitting, my shirt.
I gotta put my water over here.
Oops, I better get my sleeves pulled up.
(laughing)
Welcome.
Oh my gosh.
So you seem ready now.
Do I?
Good, yep.
Awesome.
We are always ready.
I mean, if there's, I
think there's one thing
that people watch our podcast on YouTube
and they're like, if nothing else,
they just seem so
prepared every time they sit
in those chairs.
It's like a lot of,
because it does.
I mean, I gotta think what?
15 to 28 hours we spend planning these.
Oh, easily.
Easily.
Yeah.
And we record for about five hours.
Sure, just to get, you know, 40.
And we cut it way
back to like 40 minutes.
40 minutes of content.
When we've specifically suggested
we're trying to get ourselves to 30.
I know, we're trying to keep
it nice and short and sweet.
Yeah, we're gonna get there today.
Oh, I love that.
Today's the day.
You know what?
It's a goal.
You gotta have a goal.
Yeah, yeah.
So how are you since last week?
I think I'm doing all right.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's been a
little, like this week's been,
it's flown by because
we were in New York.
Yeah, we've been in
New York since last one.
Yeah.
And we've entered into
spring break since the last one.
Yeah, the biggest change
for me over the last week,
not only, we were obviously in New York,
but we were in almost 90
degree weather here in Texas.
Oh goodness gracious, yes.
Then in New York, it was snowing on us.
Yeah, it was.
Then we come back to Texas.
Oh, thank God, it's 80
degrees, it's beautiful.
We had the doors open.
And then the next
day, the doors are cold,
and I'm outside chasing
down all of our lawn furniture.
And the trampoline.
And the trampoline,
because it's like crazy windy.
It was insanity.
Rolling in cold weather, cold weather.
Cold weather.
I did the math based
on when we took a walk
and it was like 77, I was like,
"It's almost hot out
here," and blah, blah, blah.
Yeah.
By the time it was like dinnertime,
I think it had dropped
like 10 degrees every hour,
because the real feel
when I took the dog out at,
That night.
10 o'clock at night, yeah, that night,
the real feel was 28 degrees.
Yeah, we had a real discussion
about why you weren't wearing sunscreen.
Yeah, yeah.
On our walk, because it was hot
and it was beating down and all that.
So it was super nice.
And then I saw the real feel that night,
like you were saying, it
was still 50, what was it?
It was 48.
It was 46, it was 48?
Oh, you just said that, right?
Yeah, I think it was 48.
It was 48, I'm like,
but the real feel is 28.
28.
It blew in, so yeah, that is,
I used to say Colorado
weather's the craziest,
and I still maybe stand by that,
because you can get all
the seasons within two hours.
Yeah, yeah.
There's not a lot of
places you get all the seasons
in two hours, but man,
there's some drastic
temperature changes here.
It was crazy.
The wind was so bad,
so I was waiting for our
youngest at a soccer practice,
so I was just parked in a parking lot.
I was getting motion sick,
because the wind was
blowing the car so much,
just sitting there,
that I got motion sick.
Yeah.
It was crazy.
Yeah.
And you know, like you
can't drive on the highways,
like my hands actually
hurt from trying to drive
on the highways and
holding the car in the lanes.
I know the feeling, I know the feeling.
One thing I have to do
from that, now that I know,
well, hey, we've got
the trampoline, you know,
in the corner tied down to some degree.
Yep.
Well, I found one of
our shingles in our yard.
Yeah, that's not good.
So, I'm like, I've never
had one shingle fly off,
so it's like, do I
need to call the roof guy?
Because this, we've been in our house
about two and a half
years. Yeah.
And this is the year,
like, I think I had a pool guy
here today, I had a
garage door guy here today,
we had the roof
people here two weeks ago,
like the house is falling apart.
And we got a new leak in my closet.
Oh yeah, yeah.
It's like, oh my gosh.
And this guy's like,
well, you know, it's a pool,
this is what pools do, I
was like, not my last pool.
No.
My last pool, I
didn't spend one penny on.
No.
It just worked the whole time.
All the time.
I mean--
Never lost water, it never was--
I never even thought
about it, other than getting
leaves out of it, you
know, skimmy and stuff.
Right, the typical daily
maintenance, but I mean,
and we lived in that house
for what, seven, eight years?
And that pool was not new.
We were not the first ones.
It was at least nine years
old before we even moved in.
Right.
Never had a problem, ever.
But anyways, you know,
what was I complaining
to the garage door guy about?
It was total, you
know, first world problems.
Oh, the spa, that's
one of the other things.
There's five things
wrong in the pool right now.
In the spa, when you
heat the spa, it's draining
instead of heating
water, it's just draining.
Yeah.
Which is not what it's supposed to do.
Really?
Yeah.
So when you say heat the spa,
you don't mean drain the spa.
Nope, heat.
Heat.
Heating is different than draining.
Heating different, got it, got it.
Yeah, I'll remember that next time.
It is, it is.
It's difficult.
Like there was a time
there when I was trying
to drain our hot tub.
I was sticking a whole
bunch of hot pokers in it.
Trying to heat it.
And I'm like, why is
this water not draining?
Because I was heating it.
Because you were heating it.
You know, those are often confused.
Anyways, anyways.
Separate verbs entirely.
Yeah, so first world problems.
I mean, I get it.
We're blessed, but it's, we were saying,
it's just, it's a full-time job,
outside of our full-time jobs.
And I'm sure everybody else is like this,
but they're houses,
but in this new house,
it's the biggest house we've ever had.
It's just, there's constantly upkeep.
And I remember our
builder told me that too.
He's like, at that size house, Sean,
there's always something not working.
But I think that was
just builder speak too.
I think so.
To, you know, like, oh,
you know, my job's done here.
You got, whatever goes
wrong from here on is yours.
Yeah, yeah.
Now that being said,
they did step up recently
on that little roof
issue, which was nice.
So very much appreciated to the builders.
On that one.
So, and maybe we've talked
about this, but, you know,
we've lived in quite a
few different houses.
And when we did, you know, there was
always something there
that you're like, I have no idea what
this light switch does.
It doesn't do anything.
And you just kind of
assume that it was the people
who owned the house prior that broke it.
All right, and we're back.
You guys might not have known,
but we left for about 15
minutes and now we're back.
We ran out of, what?
Memory? Everybody now and then,
there's a flub up.
It's a flub up.
And that's a word I used during the time
we were not recording audio
because we ran out of space.
This space.
So we had to go around another one.
So we had a flub up.
I had a flub up, which is
a word I use to describe
some of the things
that happen in the house
when these contractors flub up
and things aren't done right.
They flub up.
And to your point, you're right.
Things, there's things in
this house that don't work
that we wanted to work.
And if somebody else
came here, they'd be like,
Why didn't you do that?
We did want to do that.
That's the answer, we did.
It was just a flub up.
So I wonder if those people before us
in those other houses, I
always had their flub ups as well.
Yeah, I'm sure that's what it was.
And if we stopped talking in the middle
of talking about the pool, well, you
didn't miss anything.
(laughing)
That's right, we did talk about the pool.
A little bit before that.
Yeah, yeah.
So I don't know if we
even got to that point yet.
Either way, it's
either gonna work or not.
I know.
Hey, you know what?
That's why they give out Academy Awards
for excellence in film editing.
That's right.
You should get that Academy Award
because you're gonna
have to piece this together
to make sure it makes sense.
Yeah, no, I've started
not caring quite as much.
Because that award did
not, I didn't get nominated.
You didn't even get a nod?
I was even nominated.
Oh man, I'm gonna have
to talk to the Academy.
I don't know that they
have a podcast editing
genre yet, but they did
add casting this year.
So I'm hopeful that they're
gonna add it next year maybe.
Let's hope.
Well, what we thought we
might talk about today,
it was interesting is just,
and we were talking about earlier,
was just how different being an adult is
as an adult from what
you thought it might be
when we were younger, right?
And you were talking about how it's weird
when you're the one
kind of carrying the wisdom
in the room now.
Yeah, it is wild.
Because I don't feel wise.
You know, I'm like, I don't know,
I'm just learning as I go.
But I do remember being younger,
and as a kid, you kind of
assume adults know everything.
So I kind of thought I'd know everything
when I became an adult.
Yeah.
I also really wanted to
know what I would look like.
Is that a weird thing?
What you would look
like when you're an adult?
Oh my gosh, as a kid, I'd be like,
I wonder what I'm gonna
look like when I'm an adult.
Really?
All the time.
Did you think you would change a lot?
Like how old were you when
you would think this thought?
Oh my gosh, fourth,
fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth,
ninth grade, tenth grade, oh yeah.
Was it in the high school?
Oh yeah.
You thought that that long, wow.
Yeah.
Well, I wonder if that had
something to do with the fact
that you did not have a
good self image of yourself
back then.
You say you were an ugly duckling,
that blossomed, but I don't,
I look back at those
pictures, I still see you in there.
I mean, you're a kid for sure.
But I would never call you ugly in those.
I still think little Megan
was a little cute, you know?
I mean, I had some rough years.
I don't think I really
looked like myself though
until probably my early twenties.
Yeah, yeah.
I looked very different.
I mean, you could be like, yeah, that's--
I'd like to Photoshop your new hair
under your old head and
see what that looked like.
But it's closer than you might think.
I think you probably
slimmed down a little bit
because you weigh less, you know,
for a long time you weighed less
than you did probably in high school.
Oh, for sure, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And so your face is
probably a little bit thinner too.
Yeah.
That's interesting.
I wonder if that's a
female thing or a male thing.
I don't know, because part of it is,
if you would look at my baby pictures,
you wouldn't
necessarily guess that it was me.
If you look at my baby
pictures, toddler pictures really,
maybe high school you're
like, okay, fifth, sixth grade,
maybe, okay, you're getting there.
Right.
But like, my baby
picture, you know those things,
like you'll do them at work or whatever
if you're in a class
and you're like, bring a
baby picture of yourself
and we try to match
the adult with the baby.
No one's gonna get--
No one's gonna get you.
You on the other hand, I
mean, maybe not your baby, baby,
but from the time you were about one,
you looked the same.
I would have definitely
picked your one year old picture
to match to your current age.
Yeah, I agree.
Kindergarten Sean's pretty close to--
Yeah.
Am I kinda close?
I'm already nine year old Sean.
Is it really close?
Just a little more mature, I guess.
Yeah, I mean, so that's interesting.
But that doesn't change.
So did you, I don't know.
Sorry, I totally pivoted there.
That was a little bit
of a pivot off that.
Right, yeah, it just dawned on me.
Like, oh, that was such
a quandary that I had.
But I just thought that
adults knew everything.
Like, they just had it figured out.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm finding that that's a lie.
Yeah.
We've talked about
that before a little bit.
Yeah, but what about you
and what's really different?
That's all, one point
is all you had there.
Let me just give you an
example of what happened today.
Here's a perfect example, right?
Two things I can think
of with our oldest son.
When we were traveling, he called
because the garage door wouldn't open up.
It didn't open up all the way.
It opened up halfway and that was it.
So he called me and
like, what am I gonna do?
I'm late, I can't figure it out.
And he didn't know, I had to walk him
through via the phone
how to release the garage door
and then he could push all the way up
and all that kind of stuff.
So he still turns to me for those things
that he's never encountered.
But I've encountered a garage
door that's not working before.
You know what I mean?
I don't know if
that's one of those things
that you're like, if he
wouldn't have been able
to get ahold of me,
what would he have done?
Would he have figured out eventually
that you can
disconnect it and push it up?
I don't know, probably not.
Because why would he know that?
Why would he know that?
Unless he chat GPT'd or Googled it.
Right, nowadays you can Google it,
but when we grew up, you couldn't tell,
you just had to kind of
like mess with things.
You'd either break
them or maybe stumble on
to how they worked.
Right.
And then secondarily, like today,
we actually had to go
back and pick up his car
because he was having some work done.
And to his credit, he
was nervous about doing it,
dropping it off, because he's like,
well, what do I say?
What do I do?
I just say, I've got a
one o'clock appointment.
My name's Inglis, here's the keys,
and how long will it take?
Yeah.
And he did it, and they
said it would take two hours,
so I picked him up.
But on the way back, he was like,
I don't know, he's like,
"Will you go in with
me and pick up the car?"
I was like, yeah, I'll go in with you.
Because again, it's one of
those things where it's like,
he's just never been through that.
Right.
And for him just to watch me do it,
he's learned now, when he does it,
he's like, okay, I got that.
Super easy, right?
Just, we're here to pick up a car,
the guy knew who I was.
Yeah.
And he's like, yeah,
let me go grab the keys.
He's like, I just need
your signature here and here.
There you go.
Right.
And that was it.
Super easy, but now he's seen that.
But from his eyes,
and from maybe when I
was a 16-year-old Shawn,
learning those things is like, oh, okay.
Yeah.
I could probably do that next time.
Right.
That's really interesting.
So my whole point to that was,
and I want to throw it
back to you on this one,
because I want to see
if this actually fits.
I think part of that, the
difference in knowing what to do,
and it's a little bit of a pivot
from what we were talking about,
but knowing what to do,
and we can get into it the other way too,
is just having the confidence to fail,
or at least just figure it out.
Yeah.
Even if you do fail,
it's just confidence to talk
to people and figure it out.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Because even now we'll say,
sometimes I'll just say that to you.
I'm like, guys, figure it out.
I can't, you know,
we can't lead you to
the water every time.
Right, right.
At some point you have to make your own
doctor's appointment,
or take your car in, or get gas.
These are all things that eventually,
someone probably modeled for you.
You're probably nervous
to do it the first time,
but now it's just what you do, you know?
Yeah.
And so I think that was,
when I was saying,
I just thought that adults
knew how to do everything.
Yeah.
And I completely
discounted the learning process,
and watching the modeling process,
and how I was actually
learning it along the way.
Yeah, right.
Because, I mean,
I distinctly remember in my driver's ed,
and driving around,
and the car was all on gas,
and my instructor's like,
pull into the gas station,
and he's like, I'm gonna
teach you how to pump gas.
Yeah.
Driver's ed's totally
different nowadays, you know?
But the first time I ever needed gas,
my parents weren't there to show me.
So my instructor took me under his wing,
and was like, here's what you do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, so I was
like, okay, I can do it.
And I had then confidence to do it,
when I actually
needed to do it on my own.
Yeah, and I think you're right.
We've talked about it before in here,
so I don't wanna be too
redundant on, you know,
you just think everybody
as an adult has it together.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
As you're, now all of
our peers are our same age.
And you can see how some
people do have it together,
and some people don't have it together.
Some people had it, and lost it,
and you know, it's just, it's a little
bit of an ebb and flow,
it's a give and take, it's fluid, right?
Yeah.
And it's fluid with me too, you know?
Where like, there's years where I'm like,
man, this has been a great year.
Like last year, I was a tough year.
Yeah.
You know?
And again, we stayed
blessed through it, you know?
But it was more, it was a tougher year,
so my point to that is just,
the maturity to weather
the ups and downs of life
are part of maybe what I discounted,
of how hard it is as an adult.
Yeah.
Of, there's just
always that next horizon.
There's just, you know what I mean?
Mm-hmm.
And, kind of just getting
yourself set to the fact
that this is a race that
doesn't really have a finish line,
is kind of a
perspective that I figured out
as I've gotten older, you know?
It's not like you just, even, you know,
we've got people that
watch that are retired
or at retirement age,
but I mean, you know,
that's not the finish
line for them either.
They still have to worry
about, do I have enough money?
What about my medical?
What about the kids?
And you gotta worry
about your children now.
Are my kids living a
life that is, you know,
that I'm comfortable with them?
Right.
You know, that you want them to have.
Not that, you know, you know what I mean?
Yeah, you--
Not being, I'm not
talking from a proud standpoint
or anything like that, but--
I think--
Everybody wants to see a kid struggle.
That's exactly right.
And it's probably harder,
even, for someone of that age
to see their adult child struggle, right?
Because you don't have control there.
So, you're right,
it's not the finish line.
Like--
Yeah.
And so, how do you just
kinda navigate through it?
I'm with you, I completely
discounted that too as a kid.
Yeah, I'm trying to think back now.
Like, as I was thinking
through this question earlier,
we were talking about
this question earlier,
you know, would 14 year
old Shawn think about adults
as like, oh, all they
do is just, you know,
they go to work and
then they have parties
or something like that.
And not that that was my
life, but you know, like--
Right.
I don't know that I gave
it that much of a thought
because like I said, in our household,
at least when I was
of that age, you know,
talking about our future
wasn't something we did.
We never talked about going to college.
Like, that was not,
education was not something
that was overly, you know, influential
in our day to day lives.
And definitely going to
college wasn't, I mean,
I was literally the
first person to go to college
and to graduate.
Actually, I tied with my sister
because I got sidetracked along the way.
So my sister and I were
the first two to graduate
in my family at a college level.
Right.
You know, so I just
never really thought about,
I don't, you know, maybe that's something
that kids don't do.
Did you actually think
about it from that perspective?
Like, oh, when I'm an adult,
I'm gonna live in the city.
I know you got there
and I'm gonna drive a car
and I'm gonna have friends and we're
gonna go to parties.
You're like, what did you
think about that adulthood?
You know, it depends on
what age you pick me, you know?
Like, at 14?
No, probably not.
I didn't--
Let's go with 18.
Let's go with 18 so we
get somewhat of a head
on our shoulders.
Absolutely.
At that point in time,
I was actually saying it
when we were walking
around New York this past week.
I was like, yeah, I
wanted to go to Boston College.
I actually wanted to live in the city.
And I mean, so absolutely
that's how I pictured my life.
Yeah.
Whether it was walking to work
or walking around the city, you know,
going out for happy hour with friends.
I did see that.
Yeah.
And you did do that.
And I did that, yeah.
I guess as you go
further down that walk, right?
I mean, I guess what
you don't think about
is just the layers of
responsibility that just,
you know, it's like layers of paint.
Yeah.
Right?
You just start
layering on responsibilities
and you put more over
that and more over that
and they just get thicker
and thicker and thicker.
That's right.
That's a beautiful
analogy because it's true.
I think about, I probably thought at 22,
you know, living in the
city, having a career,
I probably thought I
was overburdened with,
you know, whatever
that responsibility was.
Yeah.
And then you find out, well, no,
actually we kind of keep
adding to that and adding to,
oh gosh, now I'm
married, now I own a home,
now I have children who need me.
Right.
You just kind of keep adding.
Right, right.
And I think that's the hardest part
of what you just don't
understand as a kid, you know?
Because I guess when I was
like 18, I had friends or 19 maybe
and we were, you know, we
would be on the golf course
and be like, oh, one day, you know,
I'm gonna make $100,000 a year
and we're gonna be out
here betting $1,000 a hole.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And we're gonna be driving beemers.
You know what I mean?
That was like the
depth of what adults did.
You know what I mean?
Of course, yeah.
Because that's success at that age.
Sure.
You know what I mean?
And it's just so much more than that.
You know, it's just, at
some point you flip over to,
okay, that was kind of
just like play adult, right?
That was exactly what it is.
Yeah, it's play adult.
Now it's true adult
and you start painting
on these layers of, you know,
and so that's where I
was going with this was
after you get so many of those layers,
I think that's what
you just don't realize
when you're younger of the weight of that
and how over that time
you developed the strength
to carry that weight.
Yes.
Because there's no way you
could have that weight at 22.
Without walking a mile
in those shoes first.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
To throw in a whole nother metaphor.
Right.
There's no way.
It's almost like weightlifting, right?
Like you start small and it gets,
you know, you gradually add the weight.
That's good.
You're doing another metaphor.
There, I know.
As many metaphors as we possibly get.
Sticking with the
painting, like, you know,
that was a certain color in your life.
You know what I mean?
Right.
And then another color, another era
is another color and you
paint that on, you know?
And I think that's what's
hard as an adult looking back
is just, you always, at least in my life,
and I don't know if
other people watching this
felt this way too, but
it's just those false summits.
And again, it's not like I'm just
struggling with that,
but I think everybody
thinks you just get to this point
in life where it's like,
(sighs)
you made it, you know?
Because there's a lot
of people that we know,
there's a lot of
people that might look at us
and it looks like, oh, they've made it,
or we've made it, or
they've made it, you know?
They've made it, yeah.
And not that life is bad.
No, gosh, no.
Again, like we said today,
like, there's not enough time.
My time is way more valuable today
than it was 10 years ago, right?
I don't have enough
time to do all the things
that I have to do, let alone wanna do.
Right, right.
You know?
I don't know, I talked a
lot there for a second.
Any thoughts?
No, it's so true.
And I do think that you
appreciate the value of time
as more time goes on.
Yeah.
Because there is that weight of
responsibility and--
But I am curious if at some point
that kinda comes back down,
because you think
about men in particular.
And I don't know this to be true,
because I've never been very close
to an older male figure in my life.
I don't really have that.
But I've heard of men
that are just really strong,
really hard-going in their younger years.
And as they got older, they got softer,
they chilled out, they
relaxed a little bit.
You know what I mean?
So that leads me to
believe that at some point,
maybe you do chip some of those layers.
Maybe you do take
some of those layers off.
I mean, definitely once the kids go,
and if they're not a
burden emotionally to you,
then maybe that is
paint layers you take off.
I think time comes back.
I don't know if the weight comes off.
I don't know, I'm not there yet.
But I think time slows down a bit.
I mean, we talk about it.
We're the crazy train.
This is insanity.
But with our oldest
driving, you do get time back.
It was like, oh my gosh.
We're at two and a half weeks of it now,
and it's been incredible.
Right.
I mean, here we were freaking out,
I still freak out.
Trust me, Live360 is amazing.
And sure, I am that mom
who tracks the entire drive.
But I mean, like he picked up his sister.
I was like, wow, I don't
really care what time you come home
because I don't have to go get you.
I'm just gonna send
your brother to go get you.
That is very freeing.
His car had to have
something, had a part.
I was ordered for it.
And you didn't even have to do it today.
He and I took care of it.
Because we needed two drivers to do it.
Or I didn't have to do it
by myself, an Uber back.
Right.
An Uber back, or sit
down there for two hours.
That's exactly right.
Yeah, so it's weird.
And so I think you do get
time because I was like,
I mean, I've flashed
forward now a few years,
quite a few years, and like, oh man,
what are Sean and I
gonna do when our kids drive?
Like, we can do things like on
our own if we want, you know?
Like for the soccer
games now, for his at least,
it's like we just meet him at the games.
Yeah, we don't have to go early
because you can get yourself there early.
Yes.
No.
And it's just that to
me is mind boggling.
It is mind-blowing.
But I don't know that
the weight ever changes.
I think once that weight goes on,
like that weight, especially as a parent.
Yeah.
The weight as a parent doesn't come off.
Yeah, yeah.
I just, I don't see that ever changing.
No, I don't think so.
And I don't know that
you get to, you know,
so I mean, gosh, I
mean, you know, monetarily,
that's probably the
other one that everybody,
you know, that adds a lot
of weight to a lot of people.
You and I are laughing about it
because someone said, you know, money
doesn't buy happiness.
What do they say though?
And they're like, but it kind of does.
But it kind of does.
This was after someone, she had an
opportunity to ride,
I don't know, on a private jet.
And then she got first class
because on a different flight
because she had enough points or
something like that.
She's like, I could get used to this.
Yeah, everybody
happens, but it kind of does.
It kind of does.
You know, as I
happen, because it is true,
it buys some experiences that are meant,
specifically what they're meant to do,
be more efficient and lighten the load
and make it easier than
sitting in the terminal
with thousands of people
that don't know how to fly.
Instead you're sitting
in a private, you know,
you get golf carted out to your jet
and you amongst five other people hop on.
Right.
Super easy, right.
No security or anything like that.
That's an efficiency
that comes along with money.
But if that were your whole life,
and I've seen this in our lives,
is we made more and more money,
it's not like it's like, oh
man, we're on the easy train.
It's like just more complex.
There's so much more
because money goes here,
money goes there, money
goes there, money goes here.
You know, even money
you're not spending is invested
and you gotta worry about the investments
and this and that.
I mean, there's money everywhere.
And so it's not like, it's true,
more money, more problems to some degree.
It's not like it may, and
we might be in that inertia,
we might be in that
still poor people, you know.
Fair.
You don't have so much
money that it's like,
ah, I don't even care.
I don't care, no, we're not there.
Because I do think there's
a certain point you get to
where you have so much money and it's
like, you know what?
I got that much money in the bank.
If the world blew up or my world blew up,
I lost everything, I can
live off that nest egg.
And nothing changes, I'm totally fine.
And I see people like that do live a
little bit differently
from a weight perspective.
And we're just regular Joes.
And we're just regular Joes, right?
But at the same time, so
many of the frustrations
that we have, like, you
know, sitting in traffic
on a regular day, no money
will get you out of that.
Like, unless you're just,
you're taking a helicopter
around the city, like, I
don't know why you're doing that.
Well, people don't have money to do that.
And we just talked about that.
We literally just
brought that up with, I mean,
Kobe did that because it's easier.
He was a celebrity and he had the money,
plenty of money to do that, you know?
And it was incredibly tragic.
That's a situation where
money afforded him that.
But money did--
And it ended his life
early, sadly, tragically.
And it doesn't go with you.
Yeah, and it doesn't go with you.
But anyways, that was kind of
a sad note to end it on there
because we got to cut
it, we got to get down,
we got to cut these down.
Five hours.
I know.
We get down to four
hours or something like that.
Something like that, yeah.
Anyways, I mean, I just think,
how would you summarize
the way you thought it did?
Again, it goes back to,
I just, I thought adults
had it all together and that
they had it on Easy Street.
Yeah, yeah.
Do you still think
people that are adults,
older adults than us,
still have it that way?
No.
Yeah, you think of them differently now.
They're just going
through their own thing.
Yep, I think of it
completely differently.
I see through the veil
and it's more of a peer,
even though they have
more wisdom and all of that.
It's like, I know, I understand now.
I just understand you now.
I understand the battles that you fought
or continue to fight every day
because they're likely the same as mine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think that's right.
I just think it magnifies even more so
of what we talk about,
what I talk about a lot
and I worry about a lot in my life,
is just the enjoy today.
Because A, tomorrow's not promised,
but B, I mean, there's
always something to worry about.
There's always something to work on.
The new book we're reading, it talks,
I mean, I don't know if
we've gotten there yet
on real time on morning cereal yet,
but I mean, it talks about,
and that's why I love reading these
because it just kind of
opens your eyes to things
or maybe sharpens your
focus on it a little bit more.
But the author is talking
about how that process is,
everybody's so focused
on, I gotta run a marathon.
I gotta cross that finish line.
Or one that hit home with me is like,
I'm starting a business,
I gotta get that business successful,
you know what I mean?
And you're looking at these things
that are out in the future
and if you're
constantly focused on the future,
you're not ignoring the today.
Be sure you're not ignoring the today
because that future may
never come is what I'm saying.
That's a little morbid obviously,
but if you don't enjoy today,
the future is always
gonna be in the future.
It will always be in the future.
Gotta find time to enjoy today.
Now always be looking,
because that's the hardest thing for me
is always knowing I'm
looking for that next thing.
It's not like I'll be
happy if I can just do this
or I'll be happy when this just happens.
I'm not that type of a person,
but I'm definitely a person of like,
I'm looking forward to when this happens.
Yeah. You know what I mean?
And I'm not basing my happiness on that,
but it is a check mark for me
that's like maybe a little relieving.
Feel a little relief on that, right?
For sure.
And I think maybe those
check marks shouldn't be as big
and the journey to get there
should be enjoyed a
little bit more, potentially.
For sure.
And I think goal-oriented
people struggle with that.
Yeah, yeah.
As opposed to just enjoying the journey.
Yeah.
You know, it's like, I don't know.
Maybe that's not the case.
It doesn't help that my to-do list
literally has check boxes on them.
I know, mine does too,
and I absolutely love checking them off.
I do too, one note.
Yeah, and you just, oh, that click,
because I typed that
email, like, oh, that's amazing.
So here's the last shift off of that.
So when you click it, I
used to keep my one note,
everybody knows this
is so geekin' out here,
but on my one note, once
you put a new one on it,
pushes it down, put a new
one on it, pushes it down,
you go down, what's not
checked, and you check them.
Do you leave them there
and just let them grow,
go, go, go, go, go, grow, so you scroll,
or do you delete them
after you check them?
Okay, so now you're really gonna,
you're gonna judge me.
I am, because I want to know.
So, what I do is every week or so,
I keep my list for the week,
and then anything I've checked off,
I actually move to a
separate column of completed items
on the right-hand side of the--
It goes down into infinity.
Infinity.
(laughing)
I used to do that.
(laughing)
I will never need to go back to things
that I checked off the
list a year and a half ago.
But you have it.
But, galdarn it, I got it.
When I was at the
bank, I did it that way.
So, how do you do it?
Well, at the bank, I did it that way.
I kept them separate,
and I would toggle them.
But now that I'm not at the bank,
and it's more my thing,
because I've got a
personal list and a business list,
that's like that now, and
it's just too many lists.
So, what I do is, I guess I
just enjoy the check mark,
and I leave it there for like a day,
seeing that I checked
it, knowing full well
that I could just erase it right then,
because I did it.
Yeah, but no, you gotta leave it there.
I gotta leave it
there, and then I delete it.
See, I gotta leave it
there for like a week.
Or sometimes, if there's
a second step to that one,
I'll tab and add a--
Gotta add another check box.
Add another box to check under it.
100%.
Oh my gosh, talk about two type A
goal-oriented people here.
We're not that crazy, I
don't think, but yeah.
I'm sure lots of people
that use OneNote do that.
That's just been the
best, that's the best way
I've found to keep a to-do list.
Well, even when I was doing it on paper,
I would like to see
the things checked off,
and I still needed to see
that I got some things done.
Like, if I deleted immediately,
it's as though it never
happened, and I don't get that--
Exactly.
Whatever that is,
dopamine rush from like,
I accomplished something.
Exactly, exactly.
All right, well, did you have any peabes?
I'm peabed from this last week.
Yes, now that I think about it--
You were in New York.
We were in New York, and I will tell you,
and I tried to remind myself, like,
Megan, you were young
and in love one time,
like, you and Sean did PDA,
but there was a couple on the subway.
Oh yeah.
That this was PDA on steroids.
Like, it was absolutely disgusting.
I mean, he was freaking
eye boogers out of her eyes,
like, what?
That is--
With his thumb, he would take her face,
and then with his thumb, he was like,
like she was a little puppy.
Oh my gosh, it was disgusting,
and then they'd like
be kissing and whatever,
and I was just like, in
front of her daughter,
I was like, I wanted to tell
her, like, this isn't normal.
He was like biting her face.
He would like--
It was so weird.
One time he bit her cheek to the point
where I could see her
skin like pulling away.
It was weird.
Bite her chin.
So weird, they were weird.
Oh my gosh.
Like, keep the PDA,
like, at least G-rated.
I mean, I don't even know what this is.
This was just weird stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
It was weird.
You know, yeah it was, it was.
The best thing about New York City
is that they move fast,
and everybody there is just moving fast.
I love that.
I do.
People aren't waiting
on, you know, walk signs
when the cars are
gone, and there's a space,
boom, we're going.
I love it.
I have no problem with that.
It's like when there's a
safe, aggressive driver
that wants to get in
and move on in front of me
on a highway or something like that,
you go with your bad self.
You go with it, yeah.
And that's how New York is with people.
They're just like, I'm going.
If I'm too slow,
like, they're just going.
You know what I mean?
And I'm just going too.
And they're used to me cutting them off,
and they're used to cutting me off.
And everybody's okay with it,
because we're all just going.
I like that about New York.
I do too.
However, the only PDA I'll talk about
was the place we were at the Armory
with this big tracting.
It was too small of a facility.
I'm sure it's historic,
and everybody's been there.
The Track Hall of Fame's there.
So I'm sure it was
really cool being there.
But there are too many people.
They did not have a good system
to bring people in the front door.
And athletes to go one way.
Spectators have to get
their tickets one way.
You can't pre-buy them.
You all have to stand in one line.
Thousands of people through four doors.
I mean, it was a mess.
People didn't know where the lines were
and just kind of pushing in on the line,
even though it's clearly
kind of that there was a line.
Because I found it.
You know what I mean?
So that was frustrating that
they did not have that well.
Because I know they've
done this every year.
They do it every year.
It was insane.
And the coach said, she's like,
it's bad this year, I
don't know what's going on.
Yeah, she's like, I've
never seen it like this.
I've never seen it like this.
So I don't know what it was this year.
Yeah, people were pole vaulting poles,
like walking through,
excuse me, excuse me.
I mean, and it was,
this lobby was jam-packed.
I mean, there was no moving.
And yeah, when you're walking through
with a pole vault pole,
like, I don't know, real.
Or a pretty shoulder to
shoulder chest to back.
Yes.
I mean, it was just
smelling people, all that.
We were all wet because
it was rainy and cold.
Yeah.
Anyways, that kind of crowds,
when I feel like I'm a cow
mooing in those kind of cows,
that rose me the wrong way.
I'm not comfortable with that.
Yeah, yeah.
The single file lines,
like no matter where you went,
like there was only room
for like one person to walk.
Like it was a little crazy.
Yep, so anywho, all right, well good.
We're gonna try to keep
it short, try to keep it,
we've probably
already gotten close to 40.
Close.
But we'll keep it close.
Anything else that you
wanted to get out on?
Episode 56, it's a big one.
Today is actually St.
Patrick's Day that we're--
Oh, happy St. Patty's Day.
You too.
He caught me off guard, like,
I don't know what to say back to that.
You too.
Oh, the stock, what did
you say the other day?
You're stealing me Lucky Charms.
Oh, they're always after me Lucky Charms.
Always after me Lucky Charms.
I can't do an Irish accent all that well.
I can't do any accents at
all, so we'll leave it at that.
All right.
All right, we've got
soccer, what, conference,
we got district playoffs.
District playoffs.
This week, so that's big.
Yes.
Our daughter is resting,
she feels a little bit better,
so hopefully she'll be
able to finish strong
coming back to her
school track meet days.
Yeah.
Our youngest is gearing up for some big
soccer tournaments coming
up, so we're getting there.
No travel for a few
weeks, which is fantastic.
Oh my gosh, thank goodness.
Love it.
That's amazing.
I'm actually looking
forward to the weekend.
Put the suitcase away, it was great.
It was really nice.
All right, well I think that's it.
All right.
Thanks for joining episode 56.
Happy Saint Paddy's Day, ciao ciao.
In the can.
All right, have a great one, see ya.
In the can, is that what they say?
I don't know, I don't think so.
I think that means
you're in the bathroom.
Yeah, I know.
(upbeat music)
Money doesn't buy happiness.
But it kind of does.
I'm finding that that's a lie.
Why didn't you do that?
We did want to do that.
No, I've started not
caring quite as much.
Well, that was such a
quandary that I had.
Over that time, you
developed the strength
to carry that weight.
I do think that you
appreciate the value of time
as more time goes on.
We're the crazy train.
This is insanity.
I mean, there's money everywhere.
And so it's not like, it's true.
More money, more problems.
Okay, so now you're really
gonna, you're gonna judge me.
We're not that crazy, I
don't think, but yeah.
PDA on steroids.
But weird. One time he bit her cheek to the point
where I could see her
skin like pulling away.
It was weird.
You go with your bad self.
You go with it.
Oh, they're always
after me, Lucky Charms.
See ya.
In the can, is that what they say?
(laughing)
I don't know.
I don't think so.
I think that means
you're in the bathroom.