1 00:00:00,033 --> 00:00:02,669 We are here once again and thank you so much for tuning in. 2 00:00:02,669 --> 00:00:04,471 The was good with John and Joyce. 3 00:00:04,471 --> 00:00:05,638 We appreciate you so much. 4 00:00:05,638 --> 00:00:09,175 Subscribe anywhere that you get your podcast from. 5 00:00:09,175 --> 00:00:13,513 But we encourage you to go to YouTube if you can, or iHeartRadio Podcast 6 00:00:13,513 --> 00:00:14,047 Network. 7 00:00:14,047 --> 00:00:14,280 Good. 8 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,250 Amazon, whatever you you know, feel is best for you. 9 00:00:17,250 --> 00:00:18,718 But, please tell a friend about us 10 00:00:18,718 --> 00:00:23,023 because good news does live here on our podcast. 11 00:00:23,023 --> 00:00:26,526 What's Good with Johnny Joyce is sponsored by woodwinds Wedding and Special Events 12 00:00:26,526 --> 00:00:30,530 Venue in Branford, Connecticut and Silvio's award winning Italian sauces, 13 00:00:30,630 --> 00:00:33,767 which you can buy anytime online at silvio's. 14 00:00:33,767 --> 00:00:37,771 Sauces.com that's silvio's sauces.com. 15 00:00:37,771 --> 00:00:40,206 We'd like to thank our sponsor New England Collision. 16 00:00:40,206 --> 00:00:44,110 From the time they pick up the phone and receive your initial call 17 00:00:44,110 --> 00:00:47,113 until the time they deliver your repaired vehicle back to you, 18 00:00:47,147 --> 00:00:51,117 your satisfaction and safety is their number one priority. 19 00:00:51,584 --> 00:00:53,253 New England collision. 20 00:00:53,253 --> 00:00:55,588 And they were established back in 1996. 21 00:00:55,588 --> 00:00:58,591 So relax. It was just an accident. 22 00:00:59,125 --> 00:01:02,128 Go to any collision.com. 23 00:01:02,228 --> 00:01:02,762 Joyce. 24 00:01:02,762 --> 00:01:06,032 Some people might be thinking today we're doing a podcast on grief. 25 00:01:06,733 --> 00:01:08,802 What is good about grief? 26 00:01:08,802 --> 00:01:10,270 We're going to find out. 27 00:01:10,270 --> 00:01:13,273 We are going to be a lot of good things, about grief. 28 00:01:13,473 --> 00:01:17,110 But we're going to also hear, from past. 29 00:01:17,410 --> 00:01:21,381 Absolutely, dear, dear friend of mine that we go way, way back. 30 00:01:21,381 --> 00:01:24,584 A matter of fact, we've done many weddings together in the past 31 00:01:24,584 --> 00:01:27,687 as well, where I've been a deejay and he was a photographer 32 00:01:27,687 --> 00:01:31,357 and just been a great, great relationship with this amazing man. 33 00:01:31,591 --> 00:01:34,027 New fellowship, church of the Redeemer, incorporated. 34 00:01:34,027 --> 00:01:38,098 He's a pastor and his name is Fredrick Moriarty. 35 00:01:38,098 --> 00:01:41,000 And Fred, it's just so good to see you here. 36 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,937 And, we appreciate you being here, John Joyce. 37 00:01:43,937 --> 00:01:46,005 You know, it's a pleasure to be on this show. 38 00:01:46,005 --> 00:01:47,340 You do such great work. 39 00:01:47,340 --> 00:01:51,277 And, I'm glad that it's appreciated by so many people 40 00:01:51,578 --> 00:01:53,847 and that so many people do tune in. 41 00:01:53,847 --> 00:01:57,217 And that's very important in life that they learn the good. 42 00:01:57,884 --> 00:02:00,487 Yes. What's good, what's right. Yeah. 43 00:02:00,487 --> 00:02:02,222 We have to bring the good news. 44 00:02:02,222 --> 00:02:04,691 We must, we must in so many ways. 45 00:02:04,691 --> 00:02:08,795 And, you know, Reverend Marathi, I've known you a long time 46 00:02:09,262 --> 00:02:13,533 and I've always felt so happy in your presence. 47 00:02:13,533 --> 00:02:16,202 Thank you. You've always been connected to people. 48 00:02:16,202 --> 00:02:19,239 You can walk in a room and you've always showed 49 00:02:19,239 --> 00:02:23,877 such compassion and and and love and interest in people. 50 00:02:24,177 --> 00:02:26,913 So I I'm so glad that you've gone down this path 51 00:02:26,913 --> 00:02:30,016 now and you're opening your own church. 52 00:02:30,683 --> 00:02:32,852 So God has a path. 53 00:02:32,852 --> 00:02:34,854 God has a path for all of us. 54 00:02:34,854 --> 00:02:39,259 And we, in fact, I use the analogy of, of a movie. 55 00:02:39,726 --> 00:02:42,462 Which I don't know if I could mention the name of the movie because maybe 56 00:02:42,462 --> 00:02:45,698 copyrighted, but, we're not showing it, so it's all right. 57 00:02:45,698 --> 00:02:48,701 So it's a Pocahontas. Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah. 58 00:02:48,835 --> 00:02:52,205 And she's going down the river, and then there's Mother Tree 59 00:02:52,205 --> 00:02:56,042 in the middle, and there's two rivers, and she doesn't know which river to take 60 00:02:56,042 --> 00:02:59,646 so she can go left, or she can go right, but she ends up in the same river. 61 00:02:59,646 --> 00:03:01,581 So what's the analogy here? 62 00:03:01,581 --> 00:03:04,384 What is the left river? It's free will. 63 00:03:04,384 --> 00:03:07,053 What's the right river? It's also free will. 64 00:03:07,053 --> 00:03:09,522 But what's the river that she ends up in? 65 00:03:09,522 --> 00:03:12,525 That's God's plan for you in the end. 66 00:03:12,892 --> 00:03:13,860 What is your plan? 67 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:15,962 And everyone has a plan in life. 68 00:03:15,962 --> 00:03:17,363 Everyone has a book. 69 00:03:17,363 --> 00:03:19,599 Their pictures on the cover when they're born. 70 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:22,602 There are pages in that book and that is your life. 71 00:03:23,102 --> 00:03:25,572 So every day, if it's a great day, 72 00:03:25,572 --> 00:03:28,575 say, Lord, thank you for this great day. 73 00:03:28,675 --> 00:03:30,443 But if you're not having a great day, 74 00:03:30,443 --> 00:03:33,446 if you know what, don't say, Lord, why have you forsaken me? 75 00:03:33,446 --> 00:03:36,716 Say, Lord, what is the lesson I can learn today? 76 00:03:37,083 --> 00:03:38,251 Should I be humble? 77 00:03:38,251 --> 00:03:39,953 Should I be at peace? 78 00:03:39,953 --> 00:03:42,088 Should I not be angry? 79 00:03:42,088 --> 00:03:44,824 What lesson are you trying to teach me? 80 00:03:44,824 --> 00:03:45,892 And that's the great part. 81 00:03:45,892 --> 00:03:49,729 Once you could master that, your life will be so much better. 82 00:03:50,129 --> 00:03:50,430 Yeah. 83 00:03:50,430 --> 00:03:53,233 You will have such a more peaceful life in Frederick. 84 00:03:53,233 --> 00:03:54,000 That is so important. 85 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,469 We have to be intentional about it, though. We can't let it happen. 86 00:03:56,469 --> 00:03:58,705 We have to make that decision each and every morning. 87 00:03:58,705 --> 00:04:01,908 Like we talked off camera about this waking up every day. 88 00:04:01,908 --> 00:04:03,876 God, thank you for another day. 89 00:04:03,876 --> 00:04:07,914 And the thing is, whether it's a good day or a challenging day, right. 90 00:04:08,214 --> 00:04:09,616 Something to learn. 91 00:04:09,616 --> 00:04:12,151 What do I need to learn about myself? 92 00:04:12,151 --> 00:04:14,287 How do I handle this situation? 93 00:04:14,287 --> 00:04:16,189 And we always say all the time, Joyce said. 94 00:04:16,189 --> 00:04:19,292 Every setback really is a set up for something 95 00:04:19,292 --> 00:04:23,129 better to come our way, and it takes maturity. 96 00:04:23,129 --> 00:04:24,664 It's not going to happen overnight. 97 00:04:24,664 --> 00:04:27,533 It's easy to get caught up in the world, 98 00:04:27,533 --> 00:04:30,837 but we just have to really kind of train ourself to know that every day is such 99 00:04:30,837 --> 00:04:33,473 a gift. Sounds cliche, but it's not. 100 00:04:33,473 --> 00:04:36,976 No. As long as you look at it that way, it does show up. 101 00:04:37,410 --> 00:04:40,747 It's really just a change in your thoughts about it. 102 00:04:40,747 --> 00:04:42,215 Yes, yes. 103 00:04:42,215 --> 00:04:46,252 And when you learn to do that, as John says, when you mature enough 104 00:04:46,252 --> 00:04:50,156 to understand how to handle the situations and that, John, you know, 105 00:04:50,156 --> 00:04:54,961 you have to understand that anger is is not God's way. 106 00:04:55,662 --> 00:04:57,764 God doesn't want anger. 107 00:04:57,764 --> 00:05:02,001 He wants you to realize that all things are for a reason. 108 00:05:02,201 --> 00:05:04,570 And all people should be treated with equality. 109 00:05:06,873 --> 00:05:08,007 All about respect. 110 00:05:08,007 --> 00:05:08,841 And like, 111 00:05:08,841 --> 00:05:11,844 you know I wake up each and every day and Joycean are in the same, same boat 112 00:05:11,844 --> 00:05:14,113 that way I'll say father who can I help today. 113 00:05:14,113 --> 00:05:15,948 Who could I be good to today. 114 00:05:15,948 --> 00:05:18,851 And he always puts those people in my path. 115 00:05:18,851 --> 00:05:20,853 More and more and it's good. 116 00:05:20,853 --> 00:05:23,856 It's not always easy because we get caught up in our own stuff 117 00:05:24,257 --> 00:05:27,293 and sometimes you don't want to talk to people or do this and that. 118 00:05:27,293 --> 00:05:29,462 But when we get out of ourselves, 119 00:05:29,462 --> 00:05:32,265 somebody told me a long time ago, if you're having a really bad day, 120 00:05:32,265 --> 00:05:34,500 go out there and do something good for someone. 121 00:05:34,500 --> 00:05:37,236 Yes. And all of a sudden your day is lifted. 122 00:05:37,236 --> 00:05:39,972 Because we're each other's keepers. We need each other. 123 00:05:39,972 --> 00:05:42,408 We're heard like we talked about before. 124 00:05:42,408 --> 00:05:44,410 Frederick. We need each other. 125 00:05:44,410 --> 00:05:45,345 The spirit of community. 126 00:05:45,345 --> 00:05:48,281 And God wants us to love each other and not judge. 127 00:05:48,281 --> 00:05:51,751 That's really what you're bringing into your ministry. 128 00:05:52,218 --> 00:05:56,923 So yes, my church, it's kind of bridges the gap between conventional 129 00:05:56,923 --> 00:06:01,227 and more modern in that we believe in fellowship and leadership, 130 00:06:01,227 --> 00:06:04,230 the bonding of the community, the 131 00:06:04,430 --> 00:06:07,500 the community of our parishioners. 132 00:06:08,468 --> 00:06:09,302 And that if 133 00:06:09,302 --> 00:06:13,106 one of our parishioners needs help, the community will be there to help them. 134 00:06:13,106 --> 00:06:17,143 Well, I love it, and I want to produce 135 00:06:17,143 --> 00:06:20,179 our sermon, to be real life. 136 00:06:20,980 --> 00:06:23,249 I want to talk about how something affects your life. 137 00:06:23,249 --> 00:06:26,285 For instance, how does stress affect your life? 138 00:06:26,686 --> 00:06:29,689 What does the Bible say about coping with stress? 139 00:06:29,856 --> 00:06:35,194 Or how does depression or even loneliness or in topics important? 140 00:06:35,428 --> 00:06:39,999 And if we do that at the sermons at our, our, you know, when we have church, 141 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,337 I think people will walk away with more out of that than just reading 142 00:06:44,871 --> 00:06:45,872 a particular passage. 143 00:06:45,872 --> 00:06:49,175 You're giving them actual tools to leave with. 144 00:06:49,208 --> 00:06:49,809 Absolutely. 145 00:06:49,809 --> 00:06:51,210 Yeah, I Frederick, I like the fact 146 00:06:51,210 --> 00:06:54,247 somebody told me a long time ago that facts tell, stories sell. 147 00:06:55,014 --> 00:06:57,750 And when you sell that story, I shouldn't say sell, 148 00:06:57,750 --> 00:07:00,753 but when you share it, that's how we learn. Yes. 149 00:07:00,753 --> 00:07:02,955 Let's talk about your favorite teachers in school. 150 00:07:02,955 --> 00:07:05,324 It wasn't the ones who said, read the book, do this and that. 151 00:07:05,324 --> 00:07:06,926 They made the stories come to life. 152 00:07:06,926 --> 00:07:08,428 Yes, yes. Right. 153 00:07:08,428 --> 00:07:09,929 And that's what you're doing. 154 00:07:09,929 --> 00:07:12,932 That's what Jesus did when he told the stories. 155 00:07:13,032 --> 00:07:14,467 Yes. Right. Yes. 156 00:07:14,467 --> 00:07:15,501 Good example. 157 00:07:15,501 --> 00:07:17,970 Yes. And I just love what you're doing, Frederick. 158 00:07:17,970 --> 00:07:21,274 And you just have a great way about you, a very neat way about you that I really 159 00:07:21,741 --> 00:07:25,344 I know you're getting the message across, you know, praise God, praise God, praise 160 00:07:25,344 --> 00:07:26,279 God. Yes. 161 00:07:26,279 --> 00:07:29,282 So you have the calling and 162 00:07:29,515 --> 00:07:34,153 and now you're really digging in and you're, you know, you've opened 163 00:07:34,153 --> 00:07:35,521 your church. 164 00:07:35,521 --> 00:07:38,858 How can well, we'll we'll put this on the screen afterwards. 165 00:07:39,192 --> 00:07:41,627 But what's the best way for people to get in touch with you? 166 00:07:41,627 --> 00:07:45,331 Well, we can put up my email and also my phone number for the church. 167 00:07:45,498 --> 00:07:45,932 Okay. 168 00:07:45,932 --> 00:07:49,168 So they can call they they can text or they can email. 169 00:07:49,502 --> 00:07:52,104 Right. We have membership available. 170 00:07:52,104 --> 00:07:53,673 I have a membership certificate, 171 00:07:53,673 --> 00:07:57,810 a nice certificate and a card that you can carry, a nice pocket card. 172 00:07:57,877 --> 00:08:00,546 That's a membership card to the church. 173 00:08:00,546 --> 00:08:05,585 And right now we have a space that was donated to the church in Brantford. 174 00:08:06,152 --> 00:08:09,822 And it is, ideal holds up to 100 people. 175 00:08:10,456 --> 00:08:12,758 And we have everything we need there to conduct our service. 176 00:08:12,758 --> 00:08:14,393 Now, somebody is out of the Brantford area 177 00:08:14,393 --> 00:08:16,429 because we have a global reach with this podcast. 178 00:08:16,429 --> 00:08:17,730 Will they be able to watch online 179 00:08:18,931 --> 00:08:21,901 possible or will it be possible it will be okay 180 00:08:21,901 --> 00:08:24,103 at some point in the future. I know it's still kind of new, I get it. 181 00:08:24,103 --> 00:08:24,937 Yeah, we're still new. 182 00:08:24,937 --> 00:08:26,839 We still have to get the technical people. 183 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:28,441 Okay to get out there. 184 00:08:28,441 --> 00:08:30,877 Great to do and do the film side. 185 00:08:30,877 --> 00:08:33,880 Yes. Yeah. But, we have the equipment. 186 00:08:34,013 --> 00:08:37,149 I just have to get, someone that's technical enough to run the equipment. 187 00:08:37,183 --> 00:08:37,650 Right. 188 00:08:37,650 --> 00:08:38,751 And then we can certainly. 189 00:08:38,751 --> 00:08:41,687 I have a YouTube channel. Right. So that's good. 190 00:08:41,687 --> 00:08:42,722 That's good. I already have that. 191 00:08:42,722 --> 00:08:45,925 And I've recorded, something about our church, 192 00:08:45,958 --> 00:08:49,262 you know, all about our church on the YouTube channel I've recorded, 193 00:08:49,262 --> 00:08:52,565 how we are all equal under God's heaven. 194 00:08:52,665 --> 00:08:55,501 And I recorded that it's on my YouTube channel. 195 00:08:55,501 --> 00:08:58,471 I also recorded, if you're getting married, 196 00:08:58,471 --> 00:09:02,341 please make sure you get a professional wedding officiant 197 00:09:02,942 --> 00:09:04,911 because that's your, your most important time. 198 00:09:04,911 --> 00:09:06,913 Yeah. I wonder who does that use. 199 00:09:07,947 --> 00:09:09,782 So you do that, 200 00:09:09,782 --> 00:09:13,853 but I think you also mentioned to me that you do a lot of funerals 201 00:09:14,220 --> 00:09:17,456 and that maybe you kind of feel that's your calling. 202 00:09:17,924 --> 00:09:21,661 Joyce, I do, there's a great satisfaction 203 00:09:21,661 --> 00:09:24,664 as a minister, to do the, 204 00:09:25,364 --> 00:09:28,568 the funeral itself, but more importantly, to speak to the bereaved family. 205 00:09:29,702 --> 00:09:30,903 I spoke to a gentleman yesterday. 206 00:09:30,903 --> 00:09:32,672 His wife passed at 66. 207 00:09:32,672 --> 00:09:35,641 Oh, he's not in a good place. 208 00:09:35,741 --> 00:09:38,544 And I consoled him in that it's 209 00:09:38,544 --> 00:09:42,281 not his fault he didn't do something wrong in his life. 210 00:09:42,481 --> 00:09:46,352 He did not do something for his wife, like, see a specialist 211 00:09:46,352 --> 00:09:47,853 or or whatever was wrong with her. 212 00:09:47,853 --> 00:09:50,856 It was not his fault that this happened. 213 00:09:51,223 --> 00:09:53,859 She was, by God's 214 00:09:53,859 --> 00:09:56,896 design, finished with her task here on earth. 215 00:09:57,863 --> 00:10:00,032 And now he's called her home to his right hand. 216 00:10:00,032 --> 00:10:01,033 Yeah. 217 00:10:01,033 --> 00:10:05,671 And after that I could tell because he would stop and listen. 218 00:10:05,671 --> 00:10:09,575 And I could tell her that after the conversation, the one about the book 219 00:10:10,142 --> 00:10:15,047 though explained earlier, he was lifted, his spirit was somewhat lifted. 220 00:10:15,381 --> 00:10:19,785 He felt better about whatever grief he was grieving at the time, 221 00:10:20,453 --> 00:10:25,524 and I find this more often than not when I speak to them about the, 222 00:10:25,591 --> 00:10:29,061 you know, their deceased mother father, that was a poor woman. 223 00:10:29,562 --> 00:10:30,730 She was in their 80s. 224 00:10:30,730 --> 00:10:33,899 She was, I would say, fairly good health based on what the family said. 225 00:10:33,899 --> 00:10:36,602 She fell, hit her head. 226 00:10:36,602 --> 00:10:38,170 They never went to the hospital. 227 00:10:38,170 --> 00:10:41,173 Oh, she passed from a bleed. A brain bleed. 228 00:10:41,574 --> 00:10:43,209 So they were starting to left the. 229 00:10:43,209 --> 00:10:45,444 Yes. The guilt. There's where the guilt comes in. 230 00:10:45,444 --> 00:10:48,981 They were starting to blame themselves that if we only did this. 231 00:10:49,048 --> 00:10:49,515 Yeah. 232 00:10:49,515 --> 00:10:52,551 That's the old adage if if I would have shut up. 233 00:10:52,551 --> 00:10:52,918 All right. 234 00:10:54,153 --> 00:10:55,721 And I explained to them 235 00:10:55,721 --> 00:10:58,457 that would not have made a change to this as God 236 00:10:58,457 --> 00:11:01,460 had already planned her destiny, 237 00:11:01,594 --> 00:11:05,131 and therefore she lived her life the way she was supposed to. 238 00:11:05,164 --> 00:11:07,166 Frederick, what are the stages of grief? 239 00:11:07,166 --> 00:11:09,802 There are so many I know there's anger, there's denial. 240 00:11:09,802 --> 00:11:11,270 There's what ifs type thing. 241 00:11:11,270 --> 00:11:13,472 I think the biggest one is blame. Blame. 242 00:11:13,472 --> 00:11:15,541 I blame myself for not doing this. 243 00:11:15,541 --> 00:11:16,409 I blame myself 244 00:11:16,409 --> 00:11:21,313 for not taking my mom to this place or my dad or I wasn't there enough. 245 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,149 I was too busy with work. 246 00:11:23,149 --> 00:11:24,850 I wasn't there when they needed me. 247 00:11:24,850 --> 00:11:28,487 Any number of of reasons why 248 00:11:28,487 --> 00:11:33,159 people in the course of their grieving, they blame themselves. 249 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:33,959 And that's the first thing. 250 00:11:33,959 --> 00:11:37,963 So the first thing is they they tend to blame themselves for the reason why. 251 00:11:38,931 --> 00:11:39,865 Then once 252 00:11:39,865 --> 00:11:43,169 that that kind of clears up a little bit, then you've got stress. 253 00:11:43,736 --> 00:11:44,370 Yeah. 254 00:11:44,370 --> 00:11:46,472 What we've we've got to get this this done. 255 00:11:46,472 --> 00:11:48,641 We've got to get this funeral done. We've got to. 256 00:11:48,641 --> 00:11:54,246 But whatever it is and that draw stress now in a little bit, even younger 257 00:11:54,246 --> 00:11:58,651 and older, if you lose a spouse now you're into depression, 258 00:11:59,685 --> 00:12:02,588 and even loneliness. Yes. 259 00:12:02,588 --> 00:12:03,556 Now, how does God treat that? 260 00:12:03,556 --> 00:12:06,092 God tells us if we're depressed. 261 00:12:06,092 --> 00:12:07,660 Just what you said earlier. 262 00:12:07,660 --> 00:12:10,529 Find someone else who's in a state equal 263 00:12:10,529 --> 00:12:13,532 or worse than your state and talk with them. 264 00:12:14,433 --> 00:12:17,436 Talk out your your problem, your depression 265 00:12:17,970 --> 00:12:20,206 with the state of loneliness. 266 00:12:20,206 --> 00:12:24,477 Go to a, facility, an elderly facility. 267 00:12:25,111 --> 00:12:27,113 Volunteer your time. Yes. 268 00:12:27,113 --> 00:12:29,281 Talk to those people. 269 00:12:29,281 --> 00:12:33,185 So there are ways that the Bible tells you that you can get through this. 270 00:12:33,586 --> 00:12:37,556 Grieving has its own time and place based on each person. 271 00:12:37,623 --> 00:12:39,658 Absolutely everybody deals with it differently. 272 00:12:39,658 --> 00:12:43,395 I mean, Joyce and I have suffered loss with our with our spouses, 273 00:12:43,796 --> 00:12:48,434 but the show is called What's Good and the Things we've been able to move on. 274 00:12:48,834 --> 00:12:49,535 We mourned. 275 00:12:49,535 --> 00:12:51,170 We still miss, 276 00:12:51,170 --> 00:12:54,940 yeah, our loved ones, but we honor them by the way we live our lives. 277 00:12:55,441 --> 00:12:58,410 And to me, the whole thing is to go out there in life. 278 00:12:58,511 --> 00:13:01,380 We only have an extra number of days here and go out there, 279 00:13:01,380 --> 00:13:02,915 inspire the other people, 280 00:13:02,915 --> 00:13:05,918 let them know that, wow, if they can make it and thrive, so can I. 281 00:13:06,452 --> 00:13:07,419 But be there for them. 282 00:13:07,419 --> 00:13:10,456 And I think sometimes God allows things to happen because, 283 00:13:10,756 --> 00:13:13,759 you know, Joyce and I can go and say, listen, I know how you feel. 284 00:13:13,926 --> 00:13:15,761 Yeah, I've been there. 285 00:13:15,761 --> 00:13:19,331 But I found that boom, you know, you're able to thrive and move and 286 00:13:19,398 --> 00:13:20,766 and respect people's grieving. 287 00:13:20,766 --> 00:13:22,535 Some people, it takes years. Yes, months. 288 00:13:22,535 --> 00:13:24,570 Sometimes it's weeks, sometimes it's forever. 289 00:13:24,570 --> 00:13:26,071 But meet them where they're at. Yeah. 290 00:13:26,071 --> 00:13:27,940 And respect them. 291 00:13:27,940 --> 00:13:31,243 Now part of my sermon with with funerals says, 292 00:13:31,677 --> 00:13:34,380 how am I going to remember that person who passes? 293 00:13:35,581 --> 00:13:37,950 Maybe we listen to a favorite song 294 00:13:37,950 --> 00:13:41,687 and we get together and we talk about the good times. Yes. 295 00:13:42,021 --> 00:13:45,024 We take a walk in the park and we see the birds flying free, 296 00:13:45,157 --> 00:13:49,795 and we remember how no God has that person flying free like the birds. 297 00:13:50,029 --> 00:13:53,732 And we take something that we remember them by. 298 00:13:53,732 --> 00:13:55,568 We put it somewhere we can see it. 299 00:13:55,568 --> 00:13:57,870 So that keeps that person with us. So what's the good out of it. 300 00:13:57,870 --> 00:13:59,772 The good is you're going to move forward. 301 00:13:59,772 --> 00:14:03,142 You're not going to walk forever in the shadow of the valley of death. 302 00:14:03,609 --> 00:14:05,911 You're going to move forward in your life. 303 00:14:05,911 --> 00:14:09,081 And that's what what's good God, knows your grief. 304 00:14:09,448 --> 00:14:12,451 And by the way, if you have that grief, you should go to God. 305 00:14:12,818 --> 00:14:14,353 You should go to your church. 306 00:14:14,353 --> 00:14:15,487 You should go to your minister. 307 00:14:16,555 --> 00:14:18,524 And God's with you. 308 00:14:18,524 --> 00:14:21,093 He feels your grief because remember Jesus. 309 00:14:21,093 --> 00:14:22,561 That's right. Was human. 310 00:14:22,561 --> 00:14:24,663 Jesus were human skin at the time. 311 00:14:24,663 --> 00:14:28,367 And and like we were talking about off air before when Lazarus passed away 312 00:14:28,834 --> 00:14:32,004 he grieved. He cried like a baby. 313 00:14:32,004 --> 00:14:34,473 He cried like a baby. Like a baby over his death. 314 00:14:34,473 --> 00:14:34,840 Yeah. 315 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:39,879 And, so he knows our grief, but he doesn't want us to live in that grave. 316 00:14:40,112 --> 00:14:43,549 He wants us to learn from it and to move forward our lives. 317 00:14:43,816 --> 00:14:47,887 To go to what he has designed for us 318 00:14:48,387 --> 00:14:50,956 as our final future. 319 00:14:50,956 --> 00:14:54,693 Everyone has a path, and you may go through 4 or 5. 320 00:14:55,394 --> 00:14:58,464 Different, points in your life. 321 00:14:58,464 --> 00:15:01,467 You may be this or that or something else, 322 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,770 and eventually you'll end up where you're supposed to be. 323 00:15:05,271 --> 00:15:06,205 Like the Pocahontas. 324 00:15:06,205 --> 00:15:09,441 No matter what road you take, you're going to be where God wants you to be. 325 00:15:09,441 --> 00:15:12,111 The right road, the right road. You can't make a mistake. 326 00:15:12,111 --> 00:15:13,045 And you know what else? 327 00:15:13,045 --> 00:15:14,713 Those things in the past 328 00:15:14,713 --> 00:15:17,950 where as we go to college, we say we need a prerequisite, right? 329 00:15:18,250 --> 00:15:18,651 Right. 330 00:15:18,651 --> 00:15:22,087 Those were perhaps God's prerequisite 331 00:15:22,421 --> 00:15:25,224 to something we were supposed to do that's bigger. Yes. 332 00:15:26,258 --> 00:15:29,361 And those are the learning stages, the building blocks of life. 333 00:15:29,361 --> 00:15:30,996 I really believe the gods are progressive. 334 00:15:30,996 --> 00:15:33,933 God doesn't want us to be in the same spot year after year. 335 00:15:33,933 --> 00:15:36,735 He wants us to be in a better spot next year. 336 00:15:36,735 --> 00:15:39,772 So I'm always praying, God, please bless me in such a way 337 00:15:39,772 --> 00:15:42,908 where I could be a bigger blessing in people's lives 338 00:15:43,242 --> 00:15:45,577 and the days, weeks, months and years ahead. 339 00:15:45,577 --> 00:15:49,248 How can I become better so I can be a better person, 340 00:15:49,248 --> 00:15:52,418 a better disciple, a brighter light in the world? 341 00:15:53,085 --> 00:15:56,121 I believe the moment you, say a prayer, 342 00:15:56,121 --> 00:15:59,124 just say I need guidance on this. 343 00:15:59,191 --> 00:16:02,861 The guidance is sent if you pay attention. 344 00:16:02,861 --> 00:16:08,100 And I think that's where people could get themselves in a little bit of trouble 345 00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:10,369 that they keep saying. Where is it? Where is it? 346 00:16:10,369 --> 00:16:11,670 I'm not getting it. 347 00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:16,875 But if you pay attention, someone like Frederick shows up or John shows up 348 00:16:17,176 --> 00:16:20,679 and says something which is really coming 349 00:16:20,913 --> 00:16:23,682 from a divine presence, 350 00:16:23,682 --> 00:16:27,486 but you're not paying attention that it is because you're expecting. 351 00:16:27,486 --> 00:16:31,056 I don't know what you're expecting, you know, but something so. 352 00:16:31,056 --> 00:16:33,325 Right. Yeah. I said, I think they're expecting it on the board. 353 00:16:33,325 --> 00:16:34,026 Well, yes. 354 00:16:34,026 --> 00:16:38,063 You know, the the blackboard will start writing by your side saying, go do this. 355 00:16:38,063 --> 00:16:40,332 Yes, yes. You know. Yes. That's not how it works. 356 00:16:41,300 --> 00:16:42,301 That's still small voice. 357 00:16:42,301 --> 00:16:45,304 And you have to get yourself quiet as a whole. 358 00:16:45,304 --> 00:16:47,006 There's just too much noise in the world. 359 00:16:47,006 --> 00:16:50,142 Like Jesus would go into the closet and Jesus 360 00:16:50,909 --> 00:16:53,779 couldn't heal everybody because there were times in his human form 361 00:16:53,779 --> 00:16:56,782 he was tired, tired, and you would go into the mountain 362 00:16:56,815 --> 00:16:59,785 and just meditate or have conversations with his dad. 363 00:16:59,785 --> 00:17:03,889 And there certain times Jesus even had to say, no, I can't help you at this time. 364 00:17:03,989 --> 00:17:08,327 Yes, because there were times where, he couldn't heal forever 365 00:17:08,761 --> 00:17:09,561 or he couldn't breathe. 366 00:17:09,561 --> 00:17:12,965 The air couldn't heal in his own hometown because they didn't believe in him. 367 00:17:12,965 --> 00:17:14,333 He was the carpenter's son. 368 00:17:14,333 --> 00:17:16,201 There's nothing special about him. So he. Yeah. 369 00:17:16,201 --> 00:17:18,303 He had to leave his hometown. Right, Frederick? 370 00:17:18,303 --> 00:17:20,439 To be able to heal because they didn't believe in him? 371 00:17:20,439 --> 00:17:23,075 No, because they remember him when that. 372 00:17:23,075 --> 00:17:25,944 And even when he healed, they still were doubtful. 373 00:17:25,944 --> 00:17:27,813 I didn't believe that he actually did that. 374 00:17:27,813 --> 00:17:29,114 So it was magic trips. 375 00:17:29,114 --> 00:17:31,750 That's exactly what exactly they thought it was. Magic. 376 00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:32,718 Right? 377 00:17:32,718 --> 00:17:35,521 But, you know, sometimes you have to listen 378 00:17:36,488 --> 00:17:38,190 to what's in your your mind. 379 00:17:38,190 --> 00:17:41,560 You hear this thing that says, do this, do this. 380 00:17:42,394 --> 00:17:45,998 As God's way of kind of pushing you in a direction like, you know, you should do. 381 00:17:47,166 --> 00:17:49,201 As I said, my wife was very ill 382 00:17:49,201 --> 00:17:52,171 and I prayed to God to save her and he did. 383 00:17:52,938 --> 00:17:56,909 And more voice came in my head that says, you should do what 384 00:17:56,909 --> 00:17:59,912 you can to help people, more so than what you ever did. 385 00:18:00,712 --> 00:18:03,215 So what would happen if you prayed to God 386 00:18:03,215 --> 00:18:06,218 for your wife to be healed and she wasn't healed? 387 00:18:07,352 --> 00:18:10,122 Then I and as I said right along to said 388 00:18:10,122 --> 00:18:13,192 earlier, God's plan is set. 389 00:18:14,026 --> 00:18:15,961 You have to learn to accept it. 390 00:18:15,961 --> 00:18:17,129 You have to learn to accept. 391 00:18:17,129 --> 00:18:20,032 Yes, what God's plan in life is. That's it. 392 00:18:20,032 --> 00:18:23,936 That I would say, God, she has completed her mission here on earth. 393 00:18:24,303 --> 00:18:26,572 She has given us what we have. 394 00:18:26,572 --> 00:18:29,408 Now, God, you want to take her home to your right 395 00:18:29,408 --> 00:18:33,946 hands, to be at peace and to be a patient with no pain, to be at peace. 396 00:18:34,646 --> 00:18:37,182 All right. We have to learn to accept that. 397 00:18:37,182 --> 00:18:38,417 Yes, yes. 398 00:18:38,417 --> 00:18:42,421 The thing is, no matter what happens, like with with Wayne, 399 00:18:43,155 --> 00:18:46,825 your late, great husband, my first wife, Darcy, who passed away, 400 00:18:46,825 --> 00:18:47,893 they were both healed, 401 00:18:47,893 --> 00:18:51,530 but not the way we wanted to, and with our own ego here on earth. 402 00:18:51,730 --> 00:18:53,565 But they were healed. 403 00:18:53,565 --> 00:18:56,568 They're there with our maker where we're going to be someday. 404 00:18:56,568 --> 00:18:58,804 And they're probably ecstatic. 405 00:18:58,804 --> 00:19:02,908 As Father Edna Donnelly said on a previous show, they graduated. 406 00:19:03,075 --> 00:19:05,377 Yeah, they were promoted. They were promoted. Yes. 407 00:19:05,377 --> 00:19:06,411 Right. Yeah. 408 00:19:06,411 --> 00:19:08,614 And when you really think about it that way, I mean, I right? 409 00:19:08,614 --> 00:19:11,617 I have a deep faith that this is not it. 410 00:19:11,650 --> 00:19:12,851 And we've talked to some people 411 00:19:12,851 --> 00:19:15,854 where they think this is it and there's nothing after. 412 00:19:16,021 --> 00:19:19,024 Again, I respect where they're coming from, but I just 413 00:19:19,224 --> 00:19:22,728 and my belief system, I believe our best days are ahead of us. Yes. 414 00:19:23,262 --> 00:19:24,796 Absolutely. Yes. 415 00:19:24,796 --> 00:19:29,801 I have three boys that really depend on me and, and I've said to them many times 416 00:19:29,801 --> 00:19:35,040 when it comes my time to leave, don't grieve me, you know, be 417 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:39,645 happy for me because I'm going to be done with everything. 418 00:19:39,645 --> 00:19:42,781 I want to move on to higher ground 419 00:19:43,215 --> 00:19:47,553 so I get them prepared, even now, you know, just talking about it 420 00:19:47,553 --> 00:19:48,954 so they're not hit with 421 00:19:48,954 --> 00:19:52,724 something sudden like this is the paperwork where it should be. 422 00:19:52,724 --> 00:19:54,026 This is my belief. 423 00:19:54,026 --> 00:19:55,994 This is how I want to be buried. 424 00:19:55,994 --> 00:19:56,728 This is. 425 00:19:56,728 --> 00:20:01,767 I've laid out the whole thing just to make it easier for them. 426 00:20:02,334 --> 00:20:06,471 And I think that's important to do, as you know, dealing with people 427 00:20:06,471 --> 00:20:09,474 going through grief like, don't be sad, 428 00:20:09,541 --> 00:20:12,277 you can be sad, but don't mourn forever. 429 00:20:12,277 --> 00:20:13,679 Don't feel guilty. 430 00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:16,081 We all had a great life together. 431 00:20:16,081 --> 00:20:19,351 And to say it now, a lot of people are afraid 432 00:20:19,351 --> 00:20:23,288 to talk about death when it's so inevitable. 433 00:20:23,722 --> 00:20:27,292 You know, children die, people 102 die. 434 00:20:27,626 --> 00:20:29,695 So you don't know when. 435 00:20:29,695 --> 00:20:34,333 But if you can accept it now, your life on earth is just so much easier. 436 00:20:34,333 --> 00:20:36,435 Now, Fred, I have a gentleman that I see 437 00:20:36,435 --> 00:20:39,938 at the gym all the time, and he's really soured on God. 438 00:20:40,572 --> 00:20:45,143 And, he's been living out of a truck for a while, lost his big job. 439 00:20:45,577 --> 00:20:48,947 And, I saw him at the gym the other day in the locker room, and, 440 00:20:48,947 --> 00:20:50,048 he just said, I'm praying for you. 441 00:20:50,048 --> 00:20:51,350 And he says, John, I'm done with God. 442 00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:53,252 I don't I don't believe in God. 443 00:20:53,252 --> 00:20:54,920 I don't know if God was real. 444 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,358 Why would there be, you know, people with muscular dystrophy? 445 00:20:59,358 --> 00:21:01,193 Why would there be people dying? 446 00:21:01,193 --> 00:21:02,894 Why would 911 happen? 447 00:21:02,894 --> 00:21:04,896 You know, why would this, this and this happen? 448 00:21:04,896 --> 00:21:06,498 All legitimate points. 449 00:21:06,498 --> 00:21:08,634 And I said, hey, listen, I don't know the answer to that. 450 00:21:08,634 --> 00:21:09,368 His name is Ben. 451 00:21:09,368 --> 00:21:13,005 I don't know the answer to that, but I don't believe God causes all that. 452 00:21:13,005 --> 00:21:14,740 I think it goes back to the fall, 453 00:21:14,740 --> 00:21:17,743 if you will, with Adam and Eve and, you know, in the flesh and all that. 454 00:21:17,843 --> 00:21:20,712 But nevertheless, he has is one way of thinking. 455 00:21:20,712 --> 00:21:23,348 But I said, Ben, nevertheless, I love you. 456 00:21:23,348 --> 00:21:24,449 I love you like a brother. 457 00:21:24,449 --> 00:21:26,118 I'm still going to pray for you. 458 00:21:26,118 --> 00:21:29,121 But even if you don't believe, God believes in you, 459 00:21:29,788 --> 00:21:32,291 and let's just agree to disagree, because you've been sending me 460 00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:35,360 a little texture about religion and how this and this and this and that. 461 00:21:35,694 --> 00:21:37,996 And I said, you know, Ben, let's just agree to disagree. 462 00:21:37,996 --> 00:21:40,699 You're not going to change my mind about God. My faith is deep. 463 00:21:40,699 --> 00:21:43,702 But I continue to pray for you and you're my friend. 464 00:21:43,702 --> 00:21:45,537 And I will honor you no matter what. 465 00:21:47,005 --> 00:21:48,807 So that's the whole point of it is. 466 00:21:48,807 --> 00:21:50,509 Yes, we can agree to disagree. 467 00:21:50,509 --> 00:21:54,780 I'm going to I'm going to act with love because he's entitled to the way he feels. 468 00:21:54,813 --> 00:21:55,681 Exactly right. 469 00:21:55,681 --> 00:21:57,582 Well, I just pray for God to soften his heart. 470 00:21:57,582 --> 00:21:59,985 Yes. Because you want him to feel better. Exactly. 471 00:21:59,985 --> 00:22:01,353 Because he's angry. Yes. 472 00:22:01,353 --> 00:22:03,088 And I understand. Understand. 473 00:22:03,088 --> 00:22:04,990 And and he hasn't found a couple of things. 474 00:22:04,990 --> 00:22:06,391 He hasn't found his purpose. 475 00:22:06,391 --> 00:22:07,659 Right? Right. 476 00:22:07,659 --> 00:22:10,228 And he hasn't found the lesson. 477 00:22:10,228 --> 00:22:12,164 He's still not getting the lesson. 478 00:22:12,164 --> 00:22:13,031 Yeah. 479 00:22:13,031 --> 00:22:16,335 He's living in his truck, isn't gotten the lesson he should seek. 480 00:22:17,002 --> 00:22:19,137 Right? Maybe he will find the right. 481 00:22:19,137 --> 00:22:21,206 He should knock. Maybe that door will be opened. 482 00:22:21,206 --> 00:22:23,575 That's right. And he may not be doing that. 483 00:22:23,575 --> 00:22:27,813 So he's got to be looking further Joyce getting back to what you said that opening 484 00:22:27,813 --> 00:22:30,816 to all of my funeral services says 485 00:22:31,016 --> 00:22:34,619 we are here to celebrate the life of Emma. 486 00:22:34,686 --> 00:22:36,988 I love the celebrating the lighthouse. 487 00:22:36,988 --> 00:22:40,892 We're not celebrating the death of we're not here to mourn the death of. 488 00:22:40,892 --> 00:22:43,295 We're here to celebrate this life. Right. 489 00:22:43,295 --> 00:22:46,932 And what do we remember about this particular person's life 490 00:22:47,432 --> 00:22:50,402 that we could smile about, that we can laugh about, 491 00:22:50,469 --> 00:22:53,372 that funeral service should not be about death. 492 00:22:53,372 --> 00:22:56,074 It should be about reliving the life of that person 493 00:22:56,074 --> 00:22:59,611 who brought us much joy and much light to our own lives. 494 00:22:59,778 --> 00:23:01,012 You're going to kick off my service. 495 00:23:01,012 --> 00:23:04,316 Just play Celebration by Kool and the gang and get ready to go, baby. 496 00:23:04,616 --> 00:23:06,852 Yeah, let's get out there and dance and have fun. 497 00:23:06,852 --> 00:23:07,919 Because I say it all the time. 498 00:23:07,919 --> 00:23:11,089 If I pass away, you know, celebrate my life. 499 00:23:11,089 --> 00:23:13,425 Don't mourn because I've got really good life. 500 00:23:13,425 --> 00:23:15,093 And I know where I'm going. Yeah. 501 00:23:15,093 --> 00:23:17,329 And you'll be there dancing. They just can't be there. 502 00:23:17,329 --> 00:23:19,297 That's exactly how I know John will be there. 503 00:23:19,297 --> 00:23:21,767 I'm going to. I'm harsh. Right? Absolutely. 504 00:23:21,767 --> 00:23:24,403 But but that's that's what we should be doing. 505 00:23:24,403 --> 00:23:24,870 Okay. 506 00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:28,807 And, and I try to convince people we have to look at the good. 507 00:23:29,307 --> 00:23:30,175 We have to look at what? 508 00:23:30,175 --> 00:23:32,310 What was what's good, what's good, what's good. 509 00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:35,013 A father called me once about his son, who died 510 00:23:36,081 --> 00:23:36,581 early. 511 00:23:36,581 --> 00:23:37,115 Yeah. 512 00:23:37,115 --> 00:23:40,786 And it was sudden, and the grief 513 00:23:40,786 --> 00:23:44,523 had been ongoing, and I shared with him. 514 00:23:44,523 --> 00:23:47,893 I said, well, what if you started to say, 515 00:23:48,460 --> 00:23:51,530 wasn't I blessed to have such a great son? 516 00:23:51,930 --> 00:23:55,100 Wasn't I blessed to be in this young boy's 517 00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:58,270 life for this long and be his father? 518 00:23:58,537 --> 00:24:01,540 Why don't we flip the script on this? 519 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,843 And that helped him tremendously. 520 00:24:05,277 --> 00:24:09,581 So. And I know that's what you do with people by celebrating their lives. 521 00:24:09,581 --> 00:24:10,682 Exactly. 522 00:24:10,682 --> 00:24:11,316 Yeah. 523 00:24:11,316 --> 00:24:16,188 And it, you should see, we're offering something a little different. 524 00:24:16,588 --> 00:24:20,091 I ask the family, is there a certain song 525 00:24:20,792 --> 00:24:24,029 that mom or dad or whoever loved in their life? 526 00:24:24,229 --> 00:24:28,066 And, this one woman, she goes back to the 60s. 527 00:24:28,066 --> 00:24:31,136 She loved rock and roll, and, she loved John Denver. 528 00:24:31,736 --> 00:24:32,504 And they were playing. 529 00:24:32,504 --> 00:24:35,440 And they want us to play Rocky Mountain. Oh, sure. 530 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,242 The Rocky Mountain high. 531 00:24:37,242 --> 00:24:38,710 So, we have a little player. 532 00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:40,946 We played it, and the people that were there, 533 00:24:40,946 --> 00:24:44,082 and it was full of people that was probably 30, 40 people there. 534 00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:48,220 They were singing the song love that 535 00:24:48,653 --> 00:24:52,457 and enjoying the fact that she was getting her favorite song. 536 00:24:52,457 --> 00:24:55,460 She was there, they were there, and it brought, 537 00:24:55,460 --> 00:24:59,331 it brought that joy to the celebration of life. 538 00:24:59,331 --> 00:25:01,099 Yes, yes. 539 00:25:01,099 --> 00:25:03,969 And we started doing that to find more and more people now. 540 00:25:03,969 --> 00:25:06,838 Oh, we can have a song. 541 00:25:06,838 --> 00:25:11,776 Yes, of course, that healing music is very healing awesome. 542 00:25:11,943 --> 00:25:13,411 I have one tonight. They're. 543 00:25:13,411 --> 00:25:18,450 They want a spiritual song by a certain artist that does Christian music. 544 00:25:18,450 --> 00:25:19,851 Yeah. It's beautiful. 545 00:25:19,851 --> 00:25:24,456 There was another gentleman who was, who wanted Gaelic, right? Music. 546 00:25:25,090 --> 00:25:26,324 And it was in Gaelic. 547 00:25:26,324 --> 00:25:27,692 Whatever that language. 548 00:25:27,692 --> 00:25:29,761 I may be wrong, but I think it's Gaelic about. 549 00:25:29,761 --> 00:25:34,733 And, that's the whole point to the celebration. 550 00:25:35,634 --> 00:25:37,202 Yep. Celebrating life. That's a whole thing. 551 00:25:37,202 --> 00:25:39,070 And that's, you know, the premise of what's good 552 00:25:39,070 --> 00:25:42,240 with John and Joyce today about grief, that it doesn't have to be the end all. 553 00:25:42,574 --> 00:25:44,342 It doesn't have to be dour. 554 00:25:44,342 --> 00:25:46,611 It doesn't have to be so like macabre. 555 00:25:46,611 --> 00:25:48,880 It can be something that's really uplifting. 556 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,282 Looking at that person. 557 00:25:50,282 --> 00:25:50,916 They were here. 558 00:25:50,916 --> 00:25:53,351 They blessed your life for X amount of time. 559 00:25:53,351 --> 00:25:57,389 They were here and like you said, their time here is done. 560 00:25:57,622 --> 00:25:59,457 They accomplished their assignment. 561 00:25:59,457 --> 00:26:02,827 God called them home, greeted them with open arms. 562 00:26:02,827 --> 00:26:04,930 I mean, that's that's joyful. 563 00:26:04,930 --> 00:26:06,865 Just the thought of it just gives me, you know, 564 00:26:06,865 --> 00:26:10,335 even if some of them would say, I thought, I'm in a hurry, you know, don't I'm not. 565 00:26:10,468 --> 00:26:11,002 Okay. 566 00:26:11,002 --> 00:26:11,303 All right. 567 00:26:11,303 --> 00:26:13,605 Everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to go right now, right, 568 00:26:13,605 --> 00:26:14,706 right, right. 569 00:26:15,707 --> 00:26:16,575 Certain days. 570 00:26:16,575 --> 00:26:18,610 No, let's, 571 00:26:18,610 --> 00:26:20,011 let's take me now. 572 00:26:20,011 --> 00:26:23,014 Right? Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yes, yes, yes. 573 00:26:23,148 --> 00:26:27,419 But, if if a person doesn't have that belief 574 00:26:27,886 --> 00:26:31,289 and maybe could say, do you believe in the universe, right? 575 00:26:31,389 --> 00:26:31,890 Do you believe? 576 00:26:31,890 --> 00:26:35,460 Because I believe God's created everything. 577 00:26:35,994 --> 00:26:39,397 And as I said to father and personally, because we've known each other 578 00:26:39,397 --> 00:26:43,168 a long time, I said, are you upset because I wrote about Buddha 579 00:26:43,168 --> 00:26:46,171 in my first book, Starving Your Fears? 580 00:26:46,471 --> 00:26:48,607 And he said, why would I be upset? 581 00:26:48,607 --> 00:26:52,143 God created Buddha, but I created all so. 582 00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:55,380 So that's the way, you know, we can look at that. 583 00:26:55,380 --> 00:27:00,018 But if someone can't embrace God or religion, yeah, like your friend, 584 00:27:00,619 --> 00:27:04,255 you can say, well, he can believe in the power of nature. 585 00:27:04,422 --> 00:27:08,460 You can believe that there's something maybe bigger than us. 586 00:27:09,060 --> 00:27:14,099 Whatever you call that, hang on to that and let that grow 587 00:27:14,532 --> 00:27:15,867 and start to be thankful. 588 00:27:15,867 --> 00:27:18,570 Because I'm more thankful for trees. 589 00:27:18,570 --> 00:27:20,171 They're the sunshine. Yes. 590 00:27:20,171 --> 00:27:20,572 Yeah. 591 00:27:20,572 --> 00:27:23,742 Doctors that care for whatever it is. 592 00:27:24,009 --> 00:27:27,012 It starts to expand within you 593 00:27:27,012 --> 00:27:29,914 and then you'll be surprised at what shows up exactly. 594 00:27:29,914 --> 00:27:32,651 Gratitude is riches. Say, I learned that a long time ago. 595 00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:34,953 They created. What are you grateful for today? Yeah. 596 00:27:34,953 --> 00:27:36,921 I mean, I work with a lot of folks that I know. 597 00:27:36,921 --> 00:27:37,756 You two choice. 598 00:27:37,756 --> 00:27:39,190 I counsel with a lot of folks, pray 599 00:27:39,190 --> 00:27:41,493 with a lot of folks, just like you do for everyone. 600 00:27:41,493 --> 00:27:45,497 And I'll just say, sit down at your at your kitchen table, your desk 601 00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:47,332 with a piece of paper, old school 602 00:27:47,332 --> 00:27:49,801 and a pencil, and write down what you're grateful for 603 00:27:49,801 --> 00:27:52,337 and just say pros and cons in your life. 604 00:27:52,337 --> 00:27:54,572 And I guarantee you you're going to have a lot more pros. 605 00:27:54,572 --> 00:27:56,808 You may have to dig a little bit deeper some days, 606 00:27:56,808 --> 00:27:58,443 but we have so much to be grateful for. 607 00:27:58,443 --> 00:28:02,247 But, but, but I'll tell you a last word there, pastor. 608 00:28:02,247 --> 00:28:04,449 Reverend, last word before we have to wind up here. 609 00:28:04,449 --> 00:28:08,920 Well, I think the last words of more important thing in our life is kindness. 610 00:28:09,020 --> 00:28:11,556 Hmhmm caring. Who's being kind. 611 00:28:11,556 --> 00:28:13,892 Please be kind. Please be kind. 612 00:28:13,892 --> 00:28:15,894 Yes. Care about one another again. 613 00:28:15,894 --> 00:28:17,495 We're all God's creations. 614 00:28:17,495 --> 00:28:22,033 All created under one God, whatever your belief is. 615 00:28:22,467 --> 00:28:24,469 And by the way, our church is non-denominational, 616 00:28:24,469 --> 00:28:28,306 so I don't care what religion you are, you're welcome in our church. 617 00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:31,376 But kindness is a key word for today, right? 618 00:28:31,376 --> 00:28:34,079 I love that. Thank you so much. Be good to people. 619 00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:36,347 Hey Frederick, so so great to see you and many 620 00:28:36,347 --> 00:28:38,917 so great to be here and continue success with your church as well. 621 00:28:38,917 --> 00:28:42,921 Yeah, you so much and we'll give everyone your information and I appreciate that. 622 00:28:42,954 --> 00:28:46,091 And again, I thank you on behalf of myself and the church. 623 00:28:46,424 --> 00:28:48,126 I thank you for having me here today. 624 00:28:48,126 --> 00:28:50,628 And lots of prayers for your bride and, your wife. 625 00:28:50,628 --> 00:28:51,596 Thank you so much. 626 00:28:51,596 --> 00:28:54,199 Thank you so much for tuning in to What's Good with John and Joyce. 627 00:28:54,199 --> 00:28:55,867 And we were dealing with grief here. 628 00:28:55,867 --> 00:28:58,169 And there are some positive sides of everything. 629 00:28:58,169 --> 00:28:59,370 It's all about how you look at it. 630 00:28:59,370 --> 00:29:01,306 But if you're going through a really tough time right now, 631 00:29:01,306 --> 00:29:04,309 we want to let you know that we're praying for you and your family. 632 00:29:04,375 --> 00:29:06,211 And, thank you so much for having 633 00:29:06,211 --> 00:29:08,880 what's good with John and Joyce as part of your routine. 634 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,883 We appreciate you as a scribe wherever you get your podcasts from. 635 00:29:11,883 --> 00:29:14,285 And God bless you and your family and friends. 636 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,321 I know I.