WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:07.480 practical ways. 4 00:00:11.720 --> 00:00:18.239 Good morning, good they go talk good morning, good morning 5 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:20.320 to you and you and you. 6 00:00:20.519 --> 00:00:24.960 Hey, everybody, it's it's our favorite. 7 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:29.120 You just made it our I mean, it's only Tuesday 8 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:31.239 and we've already peaked. Every It's downhill from here. 9 00:00:31.320 --> 00:00:33.320 Everything you say that, I never want to sing it again. 10 00:00:35.119 --> 00:00:37.880 It's great a right man, It's just it is a 11 00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:40.119 good morning. It's such a good morning. 12 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:43.039 It is, although it's really cold outside. 13 00:00:43.119 --> 00:00:47.240 Although I pulled into, uh, the drive through for McDonald's 14 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:51.359 this morning, and and it was it was a long line. 15 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:55.359 And then I got up there and and and and 16 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:58.880 they took my order and forgot to put I wanted 17 00:00:58.960 --> 00:00:59.880 the egg mcmuffins. 18 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:01.479 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 19 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:03.320 So they put my drinks on there, but they didn't 20 00:01:03.320 --> 00:01:05.680 put my sandwich on. And then I said, oh, I 21 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:08.079 think you forgot to put my sandwich on. I'll do that. 22 00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:11.799 And when I got up there, we waited sixteen minutes. 23 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:14.599 Oh no, I know, And that's not a good moment. 24 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:17.040 It was too long. And then she handed me my 25 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:19.040 drinks and looked at me. Like, what are you still 26 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:20.879 doing here? So I was waiting for my m muffin, 27 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:23.920 and so I had to wait three more minutes for 28 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:28.079 a muffin. I know, three three, count them one two 29 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:31.680 three more minutes. Yeah. So but once I got past that, 30 00:01:31.799 --> 00:01:34.239 it was great. It was a great sandwich. And then 31 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:35.959 I walk in here and you sing to me. I thought, 32 00:01:35.959 --> 00:01:38.480 you guys do but I'm shaking it up today. 33 00:01:38.599 --> 00:01:39.719 Shaking it up. It's a new year. 34 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:42.319 J yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So but and then you 35 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:44.200 came and sang to us, So, I mean, it doesn't 36 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:47.239 get any better than this. That's just up from there. Hey. Well, 37 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:48.840 I always figure if you have a bad start to 38 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:51.200 the day, everything else is going to be better. That's right, 39 00:01:51.280 --> 00:01:53.599 That's how I feel about it. Okay, there's nowhere to 40 00:01:53.599 --> 00:01:55.560 go but up. Well, Hey, this is a fun segment, Chris. 41 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:57.640 It's the stump the pasture segment. 42 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:01.200 It is. And this question comes from Jonathan. 43 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:03.760 A A Jonathan. But I'm here, I did it. 44 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:06.799 I did yes, And here's the question. Did Jesus ever 45 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:09.919 need to be taught anything as a child? It says 46 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:12.879 that he quote Ruin wisdom in Luke two fifty two. 47 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:15.000 So I'm led to believe that he did have some 48 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:17.360 sort of cognitive growth, but I'm having a hard time 49 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:20.000 reconciling that with the fact that he is God who 50 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:24.319 is omniscient, that which, by the way, this is a 51 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:27.280 legitimate and by the way, this is also an impressive 52 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:28.280 thinking question. 53 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:30.599 It's great because that means. 54 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:33.240 That you're giving a lot of thought, uh to what 55 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:37.439 you're reading and the concept of Jesus becoming man, because 56 00:02:37.479 --> 00:02:40.719 that is that is a hard concept for anybody, I 57 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:41.479 think to grasp. 58 00:02:41.560 --> 00:02:45.240 Well, and he's he's also referencing one verse, yes, which 59 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:48.240 means he's been reading the Bible. Yes, good job, Jonathan. 60 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:49.719 So so it's fantastic. 61 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:53.520 So let's just start off by saying, there's only that 62 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:56.680 one incident in the Bible that references Jesus when he 63 00:02:56.719 --> 00:02:57.599 was what twelve years old? 64 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:01.080 Yes, And so Jesus, we have the story of him 65 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:01.520 as a baby. 66 00:03:01.599 --> 00:03:04.280 Yeah, so we've told this story. We've done this before 67 00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:07.039 with the Bible, guys, have we Yeah? Yeah, this, remember 68 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:09.000 we went through all the stories of Jesus. 69 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:12.599 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah in this series. Yeah yeah years ago. 70 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:15.800 Yeah yeah, well it was last year, but yeah, or 71 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:19.560 two years ago, whatever it was. But yeah, so they 72 00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:24.560 go to Jerusalem for Passover, and Mary and Joseph lose Jesus. 73 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:26.520 Right, and he's teaching in the temple, Yes, yeah, yeah, 74 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:28.199 and then and then it says they go back. 75 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:31.080 You imagine your only job is to take care of 76 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:32.439 God and you're losing. 77 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:37.039 Saint Mary whatever. 78 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:43.639 Oh no, oh no, so Mary, Mary and Joseph lost 79 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:44.479 God himself. 80 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:46.639 Yes, and I'm play obviously. 81 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:50.039 Yeah, it's it's very astute though that Jonathan picks up 82 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:50.280 on this. 83 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:51.800 Yeah, so so. 84 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:54.479 So it does say that the people who listen to 85 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:57.039 Jesus's teaching were impressed on how much wisdom that he. 86 00:03:57.120 --> 00:03:59.840 Had back then. And so here's the question. 87 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:02.719 If he was one hundred percent God, did he have 88 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:04.759 to learn anything? That's how the question starts. Did he 89 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:08.840 have to learn anything cognitive? So if he exercises, if 90 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:11.400 Jesus is born one hundred percent God, which by the way, 91 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:14.400 he is, he's one hundred percent God and he's one 92 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:17.000 hundred percent man. At the same time, he wasn't fifty 93 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:20.120 to fifty. He didn't have fifty percent man fifty percent 94 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:23.319 God powers. He was one hundred percent both. And so 95 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:26.439 if God was born that way and he exercised and 96 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:30.439 lived in his godship. Then why couldn't he have been 97 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:33.879 a master carpenter at the minute he was born. 98 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:36.560 This is a confusing thing for people. You understand, God does, 99 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:39.560 God himself had to learn to be potty trained, right, 100 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:42.480 He had to learn how to walk, he had to Yeah. 101 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:45.519 So here here's what i'd say, the one hundred percent 102 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:48.120 God thing. That one is usually easy for us. And 103 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:50.560 we look at Jesus as being like a superhero because 104 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:54.480 he's God in the flesh, and so he does all 105 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:57.319 these miracles and everything because he's God or whatever. And 106 00:04:57.360 --> 00:04:59.519 then it's confusing to us when we see the limitations 107 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:02.319 of Jesus. But you understand, the greatest miracle of this 108 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:07.959 god man thing is the fact that the limitless creator 109 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:12.360 of the universe limited himself, the one the cause of time, 110 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:17.160 limited himself to time and space, right, And so that's 111 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:20.040 the greatest miracle. The fact then that he becomes. 112 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:21.680 An exists outside of time. 113 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:24.879 That's right, he's outside to God today as a thousand years, 114 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:27.240 a thousand years as a day is what you're referencing, right, 115 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:31.680 God's the same yesterday, today, and forever. So that idea 116 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:35.720 that God chose to limit himself into a man. Then 117 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:39.279 it shouldn't be surprising that God also chose to limit 118 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:42.639 himself into being a baby, and then into being a toddler, 119 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:46.800 and then into being a child, and then a preteen 120 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:49.240 and then a teen. It's weird to think that God 121 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:53.639 went through puberty, right, It's weird that Jesus probably had 122 00:05:53.680 --> 00:05:55.600 people make fun of him as a teenager because his 123 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:59.720 voice squeaked, and he probably had zits, and he fell 124 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:03.079 off quort around girls, and right, all the all those things, 125 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:06.120 it all was a part of his development. God chose 126 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:08.560 to be a man, and it was in the context 127 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:12.000 of him being a sinless man that he defeated sin 128 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:13.519 and death for us. And that's why he was able 129 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:14.480 to pay the price. 130 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:18.439 Right, because if he defeated sin as God, then there 131 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:20.279 would be no reason for him to be born as man. 132 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:23.199 Right he could have He could have just defeated sin, right, right. 133 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:26.800 So so he he was Jesus defeated sin and resisted 134 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:29.040 every temptation as a man. 135 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:30.920 He was the only perfect man. 136 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:33.959 That's correct, Yeah, right, And so so he faced life 137 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:36.160 just like you do. Hebrews tells us. 138 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:37.720 That, right, Yeah, I was just not saying that. 139 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:40.680 Hebrew says he experienced the entire what what is it, 140 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:42.399 the the vast experience of. 141 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:45.079 Yeah, he was. He was tempted in every way as 142 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:47.759 you and I are, and yet he sin not. So 143 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:51.360 the word tempt is really important, right. It wasn't that 144 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:54.000 he had opportunities to sin and didn't do it. That 145 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:58.240 it was a legitimate temptation, right, and that that refers 146 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:01.120 to his humanity. So there there's a lot of doctrines 147 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:03.160 on this that that we could get into. But the 148 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:06.480 reality is that Jesus had to learn because Jesus chose 149 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:10.040 to put himself in the position of limiting himself from 150 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:13.000 being the unlimited creator of the universe outside of time 151 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:16.079 and space, and he put limited himself into one body 152 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:21.000 at a specific time inside of space in a specific 153 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:23.839 town for crying out loud, right, and and so he 154 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:25.959 lived a life like you lived. 155 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:28.759 So him learning to read it wasn't that big of 156 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:29.160 a deal. 157 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:32.680 You're right, you know, It's like what you're what I'm 158 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:35.279 saying is is like that's that wasn't the biggest thing 159 00:07:35.279 --> 00:07:37.759 that he did, right, So those were small things. 160 00:07:37.839 --> 00:07:39.920 Yeah, those were all small miracles compared to the big 161 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:41.560 one of him limited himself into right. 162 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:42.319 Yeah, that's yeah. 163 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:46.399 So so then if that's the case, then understand Jesus 164 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:48.439 did what he did in the power of the Holy 165 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:52.199 Spirit as a man, right, you know, he he demonstrated 166 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:54.240 that he was God, but he did it as a man. 167 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:56.720 And so I believe that the This is one of 168 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:58.639 the reasons why Jesus later on says, hey, the things 169 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:01.000 I do, you'll do even greater things talking about talking 170 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:03.639 about his followers, that we have access to the Holy 171 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:06.879 Spirit all the time. Jesus walked with the Spirit, he 172 00:08:06.920 --> 00:08:10.920 communed often with his father. He had the power of 173 00:08:10.959 --> 00:08:13.439 the Holy Spirit in him, and that's why he was 174 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.720 able to do what he did. So, yeah, it's great. 175 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:21.160 The verse that Jonathan references is Jesus in It's Luke, 176 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:26.959 chapter two, verse fifty two. Jesus grew in wisdom and 177 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:30.720 in stature and in favor with God and all the people. 178 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:33.679 So he grew in wisdom, that's how to live life. 179 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:36.080 He also grew physically, that's how we knew. No, he 180 00:08:36.080 --> 00:08:37.879 had to learn how to walk and be potty trained 181 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:40.279 and all those things. And then he also grew in 182 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:42.759 his relationship with God, with favor with God, not just 183 00:08:42.799 --> 00:08:46.799 his relationship, but in favor with God and then diplomatically socially. Right, 184 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:48.919 So all the areas that you need to grow and 185 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:51.600 that your children need to grow in, Jesus also experienced 186 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:53.919 those things in the same fashion, in the same manner. 187 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:55.480 Right. Yeah, that's great. 188 00:08:55.559 --> 00:08:56.759 That's a great question, Jonathan. 189 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:58.240 Yeah, yeah, and so. 190 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:03.360 Ay, that's why that's why, you know, when we strive 191 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.279 to be great Christians, we need to understand that. You know, 192 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:10.559 when Jesus says, what did he say? He said, when 193 00:09:10.600 --> 00:09:12.360 I leave, the Holy Spirit's going to come. 194 00:09:12.399 --> 00:09:14.480 He said, it's going to be better for you. Yeah, 195 00:09:14.519 --> 00:09:15.440 it's going to be better for you. 196 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:20.360 So therefore he's really saying, you now have the opportunity 197 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:22.679 to commune with the Holy Spirit, live in the power 198 00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:24.639 of the Holy Spirit in the same way that you 199 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:26.440 just saw me do it, right, Right. 200 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:28.440 So that's amazing. 201 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:32.159 It's incredibly important for us what that's available to you. 202 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:35.879 And I think a lot of times were tempted to believe, Oh, 203 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:38.279 it was different for him than it is for us. 204 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:41.559 It was in that he was God, but it was 205 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:44.480 not in that he chose to walk as a man 206 00:09:44.919 --> 00:09:47.919 twenty four hours a day, seven days a week, right, Right, 207 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:52.080 That's why the transfiguration moment was so significant. When you know, 208 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:54.240 the power guid comes on and he begins to glow 209 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:56.879 on the top of the mountain. That was really out 210 00:09:56.919 --> 00:09:59.559 of the ordinary. That's why that story is included, is 211 00:09:59.559 --> 00:10:01.519 because this so out of the ordinary. All the rest 212 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:03.679 of the time, Jesus just walked as a man and 213 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:07.360 paid the price for us. And that's it's really the 214 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:09.480 fact that God chose to be a man in that moment, 215 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:12.159 may or in that thirty some odd years, made it 216 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:14.200 possible for him as a man to pay the price 217 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:15.360 for all of humanities. 218 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:18.679 Suh Did I ever mention to you about the transfiguration? 219 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:22.759 Somebody had we need to move on, But somebody had mentioned, Uh, 220 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:25.440 what if God? Uh? Because because who are the two 221 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:28.360 people Moses and Elijah appeared with him? What if God 222 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:32.600 zapped them and brought them uh, from their own timeline 223 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:35.679 into the future and then and then and then put 224 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:36.120 them back? 225 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:39.360 And you know, so, so what if what if you know, 226 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:41.039 what if Elijah. 227 00:10:40.440 --> 00:10:44.000 Right before the mount Mount Carmel event, right, what if 228 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:48.960 what if God in his transfiguration powers zap zapped Elijah 229 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:51.480 all the way you know to the first century and 230 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:53.799 then uh, and and then and then uh and then 231 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:55.240 put them back and it's like, no, wonder why he 232 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:56.120 had faith on the mountain. 233 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:59.200 Yeah maybe maybe who knows, or you just send him 234 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:02.000 from eternity, I know, but which is the which is 235 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:04.840 probably what happens, right, But but still it's just it. 236 00:11:04.840 --> 00:11:07.120 Was a new thought for me. That was interesting. 237 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:10.799 Okay, Well, talking about interesting things. I don't know how 238 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:12.759 to translate transition into this. Now. 239 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:21.360 I'll tell you the the the prophecy that Jesus was 240 00:11:21.399 --> 00:11:23.919 going to come and be fulfilled as man and God. 241 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:30.480 We're also talking about prophecy today. Oh okay, Shemaiah's prophecy. 242 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:32.879 Okay, Yeah, I was having a hard time tracking well, 243 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:33.519 and that was rough. 244 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:35.639 Let me tell you something. That's the goal all we got. 245 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:37.440 That's all. That's the goal we got. The goal is 246 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:39.440 rough TRANSI Okay. 247 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:43.320 So Shamaiah has a prophecy. In First Kings, chapter twelve, 248 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:46.159 verse twenty month says when ray Baoham arrived at Jerusalem, 249 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:48.279 he mobilized the men of Judah and the tribe of 250 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:51.679 Benjamin one hundred and eighty thousand select troops to fight 251 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:53.679 against the men of Israel and to restore the kingdom 252 00:11:53.679 --> 00:11:56.960 to himself. So jerreed, Bohm's not putting up with his mutiny. No, 253 00:11:57.679 --> 00:12:00.519 or Raya Boam. I'm sorry. But God said to Ah, 254 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:04.639 the Man of God, say to Raabaoam, son of Solomon, 255 00:12:04.759 --> 00:12:06.840 King of Judah, and to all the people of Judah 256 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:08.759 and Benjamin, and to the rest of the people, this 257 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:11.320 is what the Lord says. Do not fight against your 258 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:15.240 relatives Israelites. Go back home, for what has happened is 259 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:17.879 my doing. So they obeyed the message of the Lord 260 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:21.240 and went home as the Lord had commanded. Jeroboam then 261 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:23.399 built the city of Shechem in the hill country of Ephraim, 262 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:26.000 and it became his capital. Later he went and built 263 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:29.879 up the town of Penio. Jeroboam thought to himself, unless 264 00:12:29.879 --> 00:12:31.919 I am careful, the kingdom will returned to the dynasty 265 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:34.120 of David. And when these people go to Jerusalem to 266 00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:36.240 offer sacrifices at the temple of the Lord, they will 267 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:40.039 again give their allegiance to King Reebaouam of Judah. They 268 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:43.360 will kill me and make him their king instead. So, 269 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:45.519 on the advice of his counselors, the king made two 270 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:48.039 gold calves. He said to the people, it is too 271 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:50.799 much trouble for you to worship in Jerusalem. Look, Israel, 272 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:52.799 these are the gods who brought you out of Egypt. 273 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:56.480 He placed these calf idols in Bethel and in Dan, 274 00:12:56.960 --> 00:12:59.279 at either end of his kingdom. But this became a 275 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:01.879 great sin, for the people worshiped the idols, traveling as 276 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:05.519 far north as Dan to worship the one there. Jerobom 277 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:08.320 also erected buildings at the pagan shrines and ordained priests 278 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:10.919 from the common people those who were not from the 279 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:14.879 priestly tribe of Levi. Jerobom instituted a religious festival in Bethel, 280 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:17.399 held on the fifteenth day of the eighth month, in 281 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:20.960 imitation of the annual festival Shelters in Judah. There at Bethel, 282 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:23.480 he himself offered sacrifices to the calves he had made, 283 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:26.480 and he appointed priests for the pagan shrines he had made. 284 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:28.440 So on the fifteenth day of the eighth month, a 285 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:31.679 day that he himself had designated, Jeroboam offered sacrifices on 286 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:35.039 the altar at Bethel. He instituted a religious festival for Israel, 287 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:37.159 and he went up to the altar to burn incense. 288 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:43.159 Oh yeah, can you even imagine this statement? These are 289 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:46.840 the gods who brought you out of Egypt. Right, isn't 290 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:51.159 that crazy? Yeah, it's it's just crazy. 291 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:55.759 This guy was clearly chosen by God, Yeah, to take 292 00:13:55.799 --> 00:13:58.840 over Israel. And then he makes a couple of calves 293 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:00.279 for political expedi and. 294 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:05.840 Right because yeah, because it's it's too far to go 295 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:07.080 all the way down to Jerusalem. 296 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:09.320 Well, because he's afraid that if they go to Jerusalem 297 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:12.840 they're going to switch their allegiance because j Jerusalem is 298 00:14:12.840 --> 00:14:17.399 pretty great and this temple is really impressive, and so 299 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:20.879 then that's where the King of Judah lives, So I 300 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:22.480 don't want him going down there. They're going to fall 301 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:25.159 in love with Israel or with Judah again, and they're 302 00:14:25.159 --> 00:14:27.519 going to start following Jered Boehm again. And I can't 303 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:31.240 do that. So let's give him a different religion. It 304 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:34.039 was just a pragmatic decision to try to keep them 305 00:14:34.039 --> 00:14:37.559 out of going to Jerusalem. It's terrible. 306 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:38.879 Yeah, that's really bad. 307 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:43.000 So have you been did you go to Dan? Have 308 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:43.720 you been to Dan? 309 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:44.799 Been to Dan? 310 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:49.360 Yeah? So Dan is right on the border between Lebanon, 311 00:14:49.519 --> 00:14:52.799 Syria and Israel. Sits right up at the top there. 312 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:57.919 It's extremely old. There's a gate there that was there 313 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:03.080 when Abra went to that town. Very likely Abraham would 314 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:05.200 have walked through that gate. Is that crazy? So that 315 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:07.519 town had been there forever, for not forever, but for 316 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:08.559 a very long time. Yeah. 317 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:09.519 Yeah. 318 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:12.480 And now there's some fortifications, there's some some walls there, 319 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:18.080 but the platform to the little temple that he made 320 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:21.000 is there. You can still go to that space, and 321 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:24.559 it's really weird to stand there and think, this guy 322 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:28.279 chosen by God, knowing he was chosen by God, makes 323 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:31.559 a political decision to remove his people from their religion 324 00:15:32.279 --> 00:15:34.039 in order to keep them from going to Jerusalem and 325 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:39.519 sacrificed rate there. Right, It's really amazing. So it's one 326 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:41.840 of the things that really if you ever have an 327 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:44.240 opportunity to go to Israel, I think it's worth whatever 328 00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:45.840 it costs you to go. You know, you can go 329 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:48.679 for a few thousand bucks, save up your nickels as 330 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:51.159 long as you can, and go when it's safe to go. Yeah, 331 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:53.559 well I think it's safe now. Mostly I don't know 332 00:15:53.559 --> 00:15:55.000 that I would go to Dan right now, up at 333 00:15:55.000 --> 00:15:58.600 the northern border. But what I was going to say 334 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:02.840 is this, when an opportunity comes, what this does, is 335 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:07.039 it reminds you that this book and our faith is 336 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:12.360 rooted in real places, in real times with real people, 337 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:17.360 and every single claim that we've been able to discover 338 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:20.840 one side or the other is always reaffirmed through archaeology. 339 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:23.120 Yes, it's, it's, it's And. 340 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:26.679 There are people, there are people throughout the decades that 341 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:31.840 have tried their best to disprove the Bible through archaeology. Right, 342 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:34.840 but every single thing that gets uncovered, everything they get, 343 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:40.759 they gets discovered, everything points to evidence of even even 344 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:41.799 miraculous evidence. 345 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:46.000 So there's critics would say, you know, there's a couple 346 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:50.919 of times where between kings and chronicles, the age of 347 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:54.559 a king might be a little different or or something 348 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:57.000 like that. But when it comes to the hard facts, 349 00:16:57.080 --> 00:17:01.039 the the places, job, Chris. 350 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:02.360 No doubt, Ye, my bad. 351 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:04.440 I don't know what you thought was going to happen. 352 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:05.680 You set your phone out so you can see it 353 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:06.200 the whole time. 354 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:10.799 I never brought my friend like that, but I know. 355 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:13.480 But but I'm looking at the Bible, guys. 356 00:17:13.480 --> 00:17:17.920 Right now, I'm teasing you, so then you know it. 357 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:20.480 When it comes to the hard facts, the places, the 358 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:24.920 names of leaders, the names of communities, that all those 359 00:17:24.920 --> 00:17:27.400 things you can go to those places, and there's something 360 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:30.119 about that. So for this, you know, it's describing the 361 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:32.200 top of his kingdom would be Dan. The bottom of 362 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:35.720 his kingdom is what Shchem. And so you kind of 363 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:37.720 get a sense of Okay, we understand where he's at. 364 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:39.359 He's in the northern portion of Israel. This is the 365 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:41.640 part that Jesus eventually grew up in, by the way, 366 00:17:42.039 --> 00:17:47.079 and he's choosing to sacrifice to false gods in this moment, 367 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:50.559 and it's just it's a terrible thing. I don't understand 368 00:17:50.599 --> 00:17:55.839 how a guy just recently chosen by God elevated to 369 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:59.000 the position that he God had promised him to go to. 370 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:01.720 And so you know what, just because God decides to 371 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:03.839 give his favor to you doesn't mean that you're a 372 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:04.480 good person. 373 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:05.480 Right. 374 00:18:05.519 --> 00:18:09.119 God's going to fulfill his purposes regardless. Yeah, And sometimes 375 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:11.960 you know, you and I've been around pastors or people 376 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:15.480 in ministry that they think they're bulletproof and they can 377 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:18.480 do whatever they want to do because of their position, right, 378 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:21.200 and then they make bad choices and ruin their lives 379 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:24.000 and lives of other people. And so you still have 380 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:26.039 to be walking with God. You still have to lean 381 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:28.640 into real faith and doing what God says to do, 382 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:32.519 even if he's done something supernatural or miraculous in your life. 383 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:36.720 Yeah, yeah, that's definitely a great sermon to take out 384 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:41.599 of this, for sure, because Jared Boehm is is a 385 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:45.920 person who seems to you know, want his power more 386 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:48.720 than the power of God, right, he wants his own power, 387 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:53.440 and you know, and Rae Bohem, by the way, I 388 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:55.759 was reading this just a second ago, and it says 389 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:59.680 although the Kingdom of Israel is united under David and Solomon, 390 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:03.480 the tensions between the North and the South were never resolved. 391 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:06.640 The jealousy and animosity behind the civil war didn't begin 392 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:10.119 with real Baham and Jeribom. It had its roots in 393 00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:12.279 the days of judges, when the people were interested in 394 00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:16.880 tribal loyalty. Then the national unity, right, and it goes 395 00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:19.119 on and it talks about other things. But still it's 396 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:21.480 just it's just this idea that like, you know, but 397 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:25.559 I love the fact that at least Ria Boham listened 398 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:28.880 to God when he said, don't fight, don't fight against 399 00:19:28.880 --> 00:19:31.920 your relatives. The Israelites go back home for this what 400 00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:34.240 happened is my doing. So they obeyed and they went 401 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:35.799