WEBVTT 00:00:03.072 --> 00:00:06.817 You are listening to the USDN on the 00:00:06.897 --> 00:00:08.218 DFPN. 00:00:39.496 --> 00:00:40.262 Thanks for watching! 00:01:11.275 --> 00:01:13.097 what is up everybody it's the chairman of 00:01:13.138 --> 00:01:14.540 the united states department of nerds 00:01:14.561 --> 00:01:16.364 where we are for the people by the 00:01:16.403 --> 00:01:18.206 people and of the people 00:01:18.978 --> 00:01:19.599 And tonight, 00:01:20.498 --> 00:01:22.439 some characters don't ask for permission. 00:01:22.780 --> 00:01:23.900 They don't negotiate, 00:01:24.239 --> 00:01:25.599 and they don't wait for the world to 00:01:25.620 --> 00:01:26.459 be ready for them. 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:29.361 They kick the door in. 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:31.540 Tonight on the USDM Podcast, 00:01:31.561 --> 00:01:33.521 we're stepping into a collision of indie 00:01:33.561 --> 00:01:36.581 comic universes where horror, action, 00:01:36.662 --> 00:01:39.542 and attitude meet head on. 00:01:40.082 --> 00:01:41.822 When a black market deal involving a 00:01:41.962 --> 00:01:44.242 zombie blood serum threatens to spiral 00:01:44.283 --> 00:01:45.522 into global chaos, 00:01:45.603 --> 00:01:47.763 two lethal heroines 00:01:48.802 --> 00:01:51.543 Gungoth and Footpath are forced into an 00:01:51.823 --> 00:01:53.405 uneasy alliance. 00:01:53.745 --> 00:01:56.805 The result, hostile assets. 00:01:57.266 --> 00:02:00.326 A brutal crossover event written by my man 00:02:00.346 --> 00:02:02.787 here, Alfred Page and Mark Poulton, 00:02:02.828 --> 00:02:05.028 bringing together two fan favorite worlds 00:02:05.509 --> 00:02:08.308 into one explosive shot. 00:02:08.830 --> 00:02:09.590 Ladies and gentlemen, 00:02:09.610 --> 00:02:12.471 the Council of Nerds is now in session. 00:02:13.091 --> 00:02:15.891 Alfred, welcome to the podcast, my friend. 00:02:17.145 --> 00:02:17.866 Thank you so much. 00:02:17.906 --> 00:02:19.987 Thank you so much for having me here. 00:02:20.068 --> 00:02:20.627 Absolutely. 00:02:20.647 --> 00:02:22.930 I know we've had this on the schedule 00:02:22.949 --> 00:02:24.352 for a hot minute now, 00:02:24.852 --> 00:02:26.794 and the night is finally here. 00:02:27.435 --> 00:02:30.056 The covers are fantastic, dude. 00:02:30.638 --> 00:02:32.558 But let's dive into how. 00:02:34.061 --> 00:02:39.385 Tell everybody who Alfred Page is. 00:02:39.445 --> 00:02:39.665 You know, 00:02:39.786 --> 00:02:42.908 I'm a creator that got into comic books. 00:02:44.497 --> 00:02:45.336 Late in the nineties, 00:02:45.396 --> 00:02:46.578 early in the two thousands. 00:02:46.918 --> 00:02:49.340 I was a big influence by Image Comics 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:51.520 and Chris Claremont and Jim Lee and 00:02:51.822 --> 00:02:53.263 everybody that was hot at that time. 00:02:54.103 --> 00:02:55.084 And yeah, 00:02:55.123 --> 00:02:56.865 that influence has made me want to create 00:02:56.884 --> 00:02:58.225 my own world to comic books. 00:02:58.366 --> 00:03:01.247 And it's an enjoyment and I love doing 00:03:01.288 --> 00:03:01.348 it. 00:03:02.858 --> 00:03:05.500 So I know you just mentioned Image, 00:03:05.539 --> 00:03:07.641 which hands down probably one of my 00:03:07.662 --> 00:03:09.402 favorite publishing companies, period, 00:03:09.443 --> 00:03:10.144 hands down. 00:03:10.623 --> 00:03:12.665 Was there a particular book that kind of 00:03:12.725 --> 00:03:16.609 like brought you into that fold? 00:03:16.649 --> 00:03:19.371 Just the originals, Youngblood, Wildcat, 00:03:19.411 --> 00:03:20.551 Cyberforce, Spawn. 00:03:20.951 --> 00:03:23.213 Just the original, the epic, 00:03:23.413 --> 00:03:24.914 the golden years of Image, 00:03:25.034 --> 00:03:27.477 I guess they would call it. 00:03:27.537 --> 00:03:28.717 So that influence. 00:03:29.799 --> 00:03:32.200 Yeah, that influence and that atmosphere. 00:03:33.449 --> 00:03:34.592 At that time, you know, 00:03:34.611 --> 00:03:35.633 going to a comic book store, 00:03:35.652 --> 00:03:37.235 you get comic books, you get a wizard, 00:03:37.375 --> 00:03:39.138 you get, you know, all that, 00:03:39.177 --> 00:03:42.943 the intensity of it at that time was 00:03:43.663 --> 00:03:44.866 really big, was really good. 00:03:45.632 --> 00:03:46.973 No, those are greats, man. 00:03:47.372 --> 00:03:49.674 And, like, I probably have a lot. 00:03:49.774 --> 00:03:51.414 I still, to this day, collect Spawn. 00:03:52.116 --> 00:03:54.697 And I was picking up some of the 00:03:54.757 --> 00:03:56.437 re-releases of some of the other books, 00:03:56.478 --> 00:04:00.280 too, that they just started putting out. 00:04:00.340 --> 00:04:01.000 Yeah. 00:04:01.099 --> 00:04:02.920 Yeah, just seeing them on the shelf again. 00:04:03.322 --> 00:04:04.602 Well, Witchblade is still going. 00:04:05.143 --> 00:04:07.544 Like, it's back on the shelves again. 00:04:07.604 --> 00:04:09.284 Brand new stories the whole nine. 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:11.640 I mean, all of it's coming back. 00:04:11.700 --> 00:04:13.882 Youngblood, Darkness is back. 00:04:14.002 --> 00:04:15.742 There's a new Cyberforce coming out. 00:04:16.182 --> 00:04:20.706 There's supposed to be a new Wildcats. 00:04:21.745 --> 00:04:23.406 They did a Wildcats run last year, 00:04:23.447 --> 00:04:24.668 I think, that was really good, 00:04:24.687 --> 00:04:27.168 but it was under the DC logo with 00:04:27.189 --> 00:04:28.189 Jim Lee, I think. 00:04:28.209 --> 00:04:30.151 Yeah, yeah. 00:04:30.230 --> 00:04:31.692 I think that softened it up, 00:04:31.732 --> 00:04:33.833 but nevertheless, you know what I mean? 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:35.440 It's still out there, man, 00:04:35.461 --> 00:04:36.560 and they're still going strong, 00:04:36.581 --> 00:04:37.622 and I love to see that. 00:04:38.281 --> 00:04:40.204 So at what moment did comics kind of 00:04:40.244 --> 00:04:43.086 shift from being passion to purpose, 00:04:43.125 --> 00:04:52.851 and you wanted to actually do them? 00:04:52.951 --> 00:04:55.153 I would say it kind of made itself, 00:04:55.273 --> 00:04:58.735 because just at life at the time, 00:04:59.776 --> 00:05:01.237 when I got into comic books, 00:05:01.637 --> 00:05:02.577 it was a distraction. 00:05:04.829 --> 00:05:05.870 I always tell the story. 00:05:06.310 --> 00:05:09.252 I had a friend that, 00:05:09.512 --> 00:05:10.593 let's just say that he was on the 00:05:10.632 --> 00:05:11.553 right side of the road. 00:05:13.194 --> 00:05:14.495 And I'd say, Black, yo, 00:05:14.516 --> 00:05:15.596 let's go to my house and write a 00:05:15.636 --> 00:05:17.057 comic book. 00:05:17.257 --> 00:05:19.697 And I had this guy in my backyard 00:05:19.778 --> 00:05:22.860 flipping and jumping around and acting 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:23.079 out. 00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:24.560 I mean, this is the guy that, 00:05:24.620 --> 00:05:26.281 you know, he's like, yo, you know, 00:05:26.302 --> 00:05:27.362 this is, I said, 00:05:27.423 --> 00:05:29.024 ain't this better than being, you know, 00:05:30.404 --> 00:05:30.985 and he'd be out there. 00:05:31.024 --> 00:05:32.706 And that's how my character pinpoint got 00:05:32.725 --> 00:05:32.985 started. 00:05:33.786 --> 00:05:35.367 This happened off a friend of mine just 00:05:35.406 --> 00:05:36.547 jumping around, rolling, 00:05:36.627 --> 00:05:38.387 and I started writing. 00:05:38.788 --> 00:05:40.348 And my girlfriend at the time, 00:05:41.007 --> 00:05:45.009 who was like a writing major at college, 00:05:46.810 --> 00:05:48.730 could take my ideas and expand them 00:05:50.071 --> 00:05:52.651 properly in the script. 00:05:52.732 --> 00:05:53.793 And that's how I got started. 00:05:53.872 --> 00:05:55.213 And then from there, it just never ended. 00:05:56.408 --> 00:05:57.449 Dude, that's awesome, man. 00:05:57.468 --> 00:05:57.569 Dude, 00:05:59.490 --> 00:06:01.151 I love when the stories are like that. 00:06:01.733 --> 00:06:03.613 So what lessons kind of shaped you the 00:06:03.694 --> 00:06:05.076 most as an indie creator? 00:06:05.255 --> 00:06:06.797 As you're coming up and you're learning 00:06:06.836 --> 00:06:07.437 how to write, 00:06:07.978 --> 00:06:09.660 was there a particular lesson that kind of 00:06:09.740 --> 00:06:13.783 shaped you into the writer you are today? 00:06:14.142 --> 00:06:18.706 Know how to do it by standard so 00:06:18.726 --> 00:06:20.329 then you can enjoy doing it your own 00:06:20.348 --> 00:06:20.509 way. 00:06:22.269 --> 00:06:22.790 You know what I mean? 00:06:22.829 --> 00:06:23.430 That makes sense. 00:06:23.990 --> 00:06:27.072 Know the proper foundation and go through 00:06:28.451 --> 00:06:29.952 the ways to do it that's standard. 00:06:31.694 --> 00:06:32.913 Understand the rules of it. 00:06:33.293 --> 00:06:33.694 And that way, 00:06:33.713 --> 00:06:34.894 when you do it your own way, 00:06:36.014 --> 00:06:37.975 you can take those elements into it and 00:06:37.995 --> 00:06:41.377 make your own road on it. 00:06:41.617 --> 00:06:43.557 Dude, that's a fantastic answer. 00:06:45.499 --> 00:06:47.598 It is one of those that I feel 00:06:47.779 --> 00:06:48.660 stands true. 00:06:49.300 --> 00:06:50.781 You pick up any good comic book, 00:06:50.821 --> 00:06:51.440 you can tell. 00:06:54.901 --> 00:06:58.103 But so let's dive into some hostile assets 00:06:58.163 --> 00:06:58.444 now. 00:06:59.283 --> 00:07:04.607 What sparked the idea for this crossover? 00:07:04.766 --> 00:07:06.427 I had a chance to talk to Mark, 00:07:07.528 --> 00:07:09.189 Mark Parton from Haunted Pizza. 00:07:09.709 --> 00:07:09.869 Yep. 00:07:10.168 --> 00:07:12.850 Who is who is an image, 00:07:13.511 --> 00:07:15.091 one of those image guys. 00:07:15.232 --> 00:07:15.492 Right. 00:07:15.992 --> 00:07:17.153 And his crew, you know, 00:07:17.492 --> 00:07:18.653 and works with that same crew. 00:07:19.994 --> 00:07:22.334 You know, he did at Angeline and Angeline. 00:07:23.024 --> 00:07:24.103 Amber Jolene for Image. 00:07:24.163 --> 00:07:26.365 He did Savage Hawkman. 00:07:26.745 --> 00:07:28.485 He did Graveyard Shift. 00:07:29.346 --> 00:07:32.105 And he, like me, is an Image head. 00:07:34.026 --> 00:07:36.507 So we started talking about what comic 00:07:36.548 --> 00:07:40.149 books was the influence. 00:07:40.269 --> 00:07:42.329 And we both enjoyed The Kindred. 00:07:42.348 --> 00:07:43.369 I don't know if you remember. 00:07:43.428 --> 00:07:44.870 It's a comic book called The Kindred from 00:07:44.970 --> 00:07:45.689 Image Comics. 00:07:46.670 --> 00:07:48.630 I can see it vaguely in my head. 00:07:49.790 --> 00:07:50.170 Yeah, 00:07:50.190 --> 00:07:51.911 it's a comic book called The Kindred, 00:07:52.012 --> 00:07:52.372 which is... 00:07:54.517 --> 00:07:55.838 one of my i guess you want to 00:07:55.858 --> 00:07:58.459 say comic book bibles that and genesis 00:07:58.660 --> 00:08:02.021 x-men um and as well as him so 00:08:02.060 --> 00:08:05.502 i was like hey i got footpath and 00:08:05.521 --> 00:08:07.182 he had a character named gun goth that 00:08:07.201 --> 00:08:10.182 had a green jacket like the old grifter 00:08:10.322 --> 00:08:12.004 i said hey man let's just redo it 00:08:13.204 --> 00:08:14.824 so that's how i got started just off 00:08:14.845 --> 00:08:18.545 a conversation and from there we did it 00:08:18.565 --> 00:08:20.887 we uh we we rewrote it uh 00:08:22.954 --> 00:08:26.057 I reached out to Sal Regula, 00:08:26.077 --> 00:08:27.759 who's the original writer on The Kindred. 00:08:30.141 --> 00:08:31.923 I showed him the making of it, 00:08:32.082 --> 00:08:33.485 and I talked to him about it, 00:08:33.845 --> 00:08:38.929 and what his comic book or what they 00:08:38.950 --> 00:08:42.033 did years ago has such an influence even 00:08:42.052 --> 00:08:42.472 today. 00:08:42.873 --> 00:08:45.336 So, yeah, we are enjoying it, man. 00:08:45.416 --> 00:08:46.817 It's a fantastic crossover. 00:08:46.876 --> 00:08:47.057 It's 00:08:49.107 --> 00:08:51.788 and uh that's a that's a fat book 00:08:51.828 --> 00:08:54.850 man sixty pages that's yeah you're getting 00:08:54.890 --> 00:08:56.311 the bang for your buck on this one 00:08:57.451 --> 00:09:00.893 yeah it's sixty pages it's uh and it 00:09:00.913 --> 00:09:02.134 has a lot of guests in it uh 00:09:02.153 --> 00:09:05.775 you know you got arico bada artist from 00:09:05.855 --> 00:09:09.476 spawn you got uh mike my hand you 00:09:09.496 --> 00:09:11.197 got edson owes who's doing the who 00:09:11.437 --> 00:09:14.620 actually did the interiors you got anthony 00:09:14.659 --> 00:09:17.441 george i mean you got best of weeks 00:09:17.500 --> 00:09:17.880 junior 00:09:18.313 --> 00:09:18.474 I mean, 00:09:18.494 --> 00:09:21.317 you got a lot of people that's around 00:09:21.356 --> 00:09:24.259 then through that influence that's taken 00:09:24.278 --> 00:09:25.179 part in this project. 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:26.761 So it's a really big project. 00:09:27.763 --> 00:09:29.063 Dude, that's amazing. 00:09:29.884 --> 00:09:31.946 So many great names from the nineties who 00:09:31.985 --> 00:09:33.807 are still doing comics in their own way 00:09:33.847 --> 00:09:34.168 now. 00:09:35.048 --> 00:09:36.289 Really awesome to hear that. 00:09:37.631 --> 00:09:40.173 So yeah, this is like a... Oh, 00:09:40.214 --> 00:09:40.453 go ahead. 00:09:40.514 --> 00:09:42.216 No, go ahead. 00:09:42.316 --> 00:09:42.936 No, I was saying like, 00:09:42.956 --> 00:09:44.418 this is like a dedication to 00:09:45.532 --> 00:09:48.474 the influence that you all had that same 00:09:48.553 --> 00:09:51.196 influence under back then with Image and 00:09:51.355 --> 00:09:51.995 stuff like that. 00:09:52.956 --> 00:09:53.836 It's like a love letter. 00:09:54.518 --> 00:09:57.078 It's a real nice project to be a 00:09:57.120 --> 00:09:57.480 part of. 00:09:58.399 --> 00:09:59.760 That's why I hit that notify me on 00:09:59.801 --> 00:10:03.663 launch button. 00:10:03.923 --> 00:10:05.605 What makes this crossover different from 00:10:05.644 --> 00:10:10.587 your typical comic book crossovers? 00:10:10.668 --> 00:10:13.529 Only because this one's a direct influence 00:10:13.750 --> 00:10:14.910 of something that 00:10:15.509 --> 00:10:16.009 We loved. 00:10:16.028 --> 00:10:18.009 You know what I mean? 00:10:18.049 --> 00:10:19.769 So this one is a direct influence on 00:10:19.789 --> 00:10:20.350 the kindred. 00:10:20.691 --> 00:10:23.571 So that's the only one that makes this 00:10:23.691 --> 00:10:24.312 one different. 00:10:24.471 --> 00:10:28.653 It's purposely to try to catch the 00:10:28.732 --> 00:10:30.573 elements that we loved about comic books. 00:10:31.693 --> 00:10:33.014 What grabbed us into comic books, 00:10:33.033 --> 00:10:34.955 the excitement, the action, 00:10:36.154 --> 00:10:37.235 and what made us fans. 00:10:37.475 --> 00:10:41.116 So we're trying to capture that again with 00:10:41.136 --> 00:10:41.856 this crossover. 00:10:43.254 --> 00:10:44.573 Dude, I love it, dude. 00:10:44.995 --> 00:10:46.115 This is one of those where. 00:10:47.455 --> 00:10:49.355 Sixty pages, so images, 00:10:49.495 --> 00:10:52.937 early greats all taken part in to bring 00:10:52.956 --> 00:10:54.118 this back to life. 00:10:54.977 --> 00:10:57.958 Oh, yeah, that that's that's phenomenal, 00:10:58.019 --> 00:11:00.360 especially for all those guys out there my 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:02.159 age who grew up on image as well 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:02.840 as yourself. 00:11:03.341 --> 00:11:04.380 We grew up on image. 00:11:05.761 --> 00:11:06.282 I mean, shit, 00:11:06.302 --> 00:11:07.962 Spawn is still a dollar ninety nine. 00:11:08.763 --> 00:11:10.744 So, I mean, 00:11:10.783 --> 00:11:13.164 it's what I could could afford because at 00:11:13.184 --> 00:11:13.504 the time, 00:11:13.524 --> 00:11:15.405 I think Marvel had gone up to like 00:11:15.426 --> 00:11:16.947 two ninety nine or three ninety nine or 00:11:16.986 --> 00:11:17.787 something like that. 00:11:17.807 --> 00:11:24.190 And cheaper than that. 00:11:24.210 --> 00:11:24.289 Yeah. 00:11:24.330 --> 00:11:25.730 So it's awesome to hear and to see 00:11:25.791 --> 00:11:28.471 two characters so heavily influenced by 00:11:28.511 --> 00:11:28.751 that. 00:11:29.780 --> 00:11:32.642 old nineteen nineties image when they come 00:11:32.701 --> 00:11:35.043 out swinging on everybody. 00:11:35.923 --> 00:11:37.244 So it's really cool. 00:11:38.124 --> 00:11:41.004 But so let's get up into this story 00:11:41.265 --> 00:11:41.806 that. 00:11:42.926 --> 00:11:45.106 Gun goth and footpath are going to have 00:11:45.287 --> 00:11:48.168 in this crossover comic book album, 00:11:48.248 --> 00:11:50.928 Zombie Blood Serum is a killer concept. 00:11:51.929 --> 00:11:56.071 Where did that originate? 00:11:56.311 --> 00:11:57.812 And in my line, 00:11:59.092 --> 00:11:59.773 of comic books. 00:11:59.913 --> 00:12:01.393 I had a comic book called Blowtorch, 00:12:01.413 --> 00:12:03.874 Bury the Past. 00:12:04.533 --> 00:12:04.774 Okay. 00:12:05.114 --> 00:12:07.073 Which I started a storyline about a 00:12:07.114 --> 00:12:08.174 resurrection program. 00:12:10.794 --> 00:12:10.955 Okay. 00:12:11.595 --> 00:12:15.196 So that storyline kind of went into the 00:12:15.235 --> 00:12:17.316 conversation of Mark with Gungoth, 00:12:17.596 --> 00:12:23.136 who is a girl that's tracking down these 00:12:23.177 --> 00:12:25.618 experiments and these werewolves and stuff 00:12:25.638 --> 00:12:26.057 like that. 00:12:26.077 --> 00:12:27.337 So the storyline kind of fit. 00:12:28.394 --> 00:12:29.033 into each other. 00:12:30.833 --> 00:12:31.774 And, you know, through conversation, 00:12:31.815 --> 00:12:32.455 it's like, hey, 00:12:33.575 --> 00:12:35.995 that's amazing that your storyline and my 00:12:36.034 --> 00:12:38.196 storyline are kind of like hitting each 00:12:38.255 --> 00:12:38.495 other. 00:12:38.956 --> 00:12:41.196 So it made its own story. 00:12:43.076 --> 00:12:43.996 The two of them together. 00:12:45.716 --> 00:12:46.697 And so, you know, 00:12:46.716 --> 00:12:48.457 if you remember the original Kindred, 00:12:48.738 --> 00:12:52.298 it was something similar, off experiment. 00:12:52.518 --> 00:12:53.818 So it was like, oh, 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:54.619 we got a chance. 00:12:54.698 --> 00:12:55.599 We got a chance to 00:12:56.974 --> 00:12:57.914 do an image comic. 00:12:57.934 --> 00:12:59.096 You know what I'm saying? 00:12:59.115 --> 00:13:00.256 Like, hey, man, let's do this. 00:13:00.897 --> 00:13:02.178 So, you know, we got excited. 00:13:02.359 --> 00:13:02.958 Like, hey, 00:13:03.299 --> 00:13:05.181 the stories itself is already aligned. 00:13:05.400 --> 00:13:08.423 The stories are not from the kindred, 00:13:08.945 --> 00:13:12.927 but it led into a similar environment 00:13:13.028 --> 00:13:14.229 through the conversation me and him was 00:13:14.249 --> 00:13:14.609 having. 00:13:15.710 --> 00:13:16.831 No, that is really cool. 00:13:16.910 --> 00:13:21.515 I mean, that two separate guys, unrelated, 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:24.662 are working on two bullets very similar 00:13:25.422 --> 00:13:27.403 and you were able to make it cross 00:13:27.464 --> 00:13:29.605 paths that way just seamlessly and make 00:13:29.686 --> 00:13:31.626 everything just flow into each other like 00:13:31.647 --> 00:13:31.826 that. 00:13:31.866 --> 00:13:34.528 That's a one in a million shot. 00:13:34.568 --> 00:13:36.730 You know what I'm saying? 00:13:36.750 --> 00:13:38.812 Yeah, that's rare because it actually, 00:13:39.913 --> 00:13:41.595 even though it's a crossover between us, 00:13:42.195 --> 00:13:44.636 it actually just moves on the story for 00:13:44.697 --> 00:13:45.317 both of us. 00:13:46.097 --> 00:13:48.019 You know what I mean? 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:49.380 That was already established. 00:13:49.441 --> 00:13:49.681 Yeah, 00:13:49.701 --> 00:13:51.101 that was already established before we 00:13:51.142 --> 00:13:51.883 even talked about it. 00:13:53.636 --> 00:13:54.638 You know, if that makes sense. 00:13:54.658 --> 00:13:54.857 Yeah. 00:13:54.898 --> 00:13:54.937 No, 00:13:54.958 --> 00:13:56.700 that makes a hundred percent sense to me, 00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:59.302 but I live in this world. 00:13:59.341 --> 00:14:00.143 You know what I'm saying? 00:14:00.243 --> 00:14:03.485 Of indie comics and amazing stories that 00:14:03.524 --> 00:14:05.226 are out there in the indie comic world. 00:14:05.246 --> 00:14:07.469 So for me, like, dude, that's perfect. 00:14:07.489 --> 00:14:09.289 Like how often do you get to write 00:14:09.309 --> 00:14:11.072 a story with somebody you don't know? 00:14:11.971 --> 00:14:15.095 And the stories just fall seamlessly into 00:14:15.195 --> 00:14:17.596 each other and work to continue both 00:14:17.657 --> 00:14:18.236 stories. 00:14:18.618 --> 00:14:20.019 That's right. 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:23.241 So it's just a coincidence. 00:14:23.982 --> 00:14:25.724 And what's amazing about that is now that 00:14:25.744 --> 00:14:27.004 you're crossing them over here, 00:14:27.465 --> 00:14:28.986 y'all both can go off, right? 00:14:29.027 --> 00:14:29.687 Two, three, 00:14:29.767 --> 00:14:31.307 four more issues and then bring them back 00:14:31.327 --> 00:14:34.451 together if you want to. 00:14:34.551 --> 00:14:37.793 Oh, well, you know, uh, 00:14:37.812 --> 00:14:42.157 we had so much fun doing hostile assets. 00:14:43.158 --> 00:14:44.458 Um, and, and the way, 00:14:44.619 --> 00:14:46.779 the way that happened, I just did, 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:48.261 I just did a Kickstarter called footpath 00:14:48.302 --> 00:14:49.663 dangerous nights. 00:14:49.682 --> 00:14:50.003 Okay. 00:14:50.330 --> 00:14:54.530 about this same experiment before we even 00:14:54.571 --> 00:14:55.491 had this conversation. 00:14:55.652 --> 00:14:57.312 So if you look, 00:14:57.371 --> 00:14:59.673 I got a Kickstarter out now or late 00:14:59.692 --> 00:15:01.994 pledges for a Kickstarter for Footpath 00:15:02.014 --> 00:15:04.575 Dangerous Nights. 00:15:07.015 --> 00:15:07.255 Yeah, 00:15:07.395 --> 00:15:10.537 the way that story went led right into 00:15:10.557 --> 00:15:11.596 the conversation with Mark. 00:15:11.677 --> 00:15:15.298 It was like just a crazy coincidence. 00:15:15.479 --> 00:15:16.698 So it follows through. 00:15:17.739 --> 00:15:18.940 And we had so much fun doing a 00:15:18.980 --> 00:15:19.379 hot dog 00:15:20.318 --> 00:15:22.240 We had so much fun doing Hostile Assets 00:15:23.081 --> 00:15:24.923 that now Hostile Assets is going to lead 00:15:24.943 --> 00:15:29.648 into a bigger crossover with Haunted Pizza 00:15:29.688 --> 00:15:30.669 and Patreon Comics. 00:15:31.509 --> 00:15:32.331 With everybody. 00:15:35.595 --> 00:15:36.576 With everybody, so... 00:15:37.331 --> 00:15:38.211 That's money, bro. 00:15:38.893 --> 00:15:39.572 I love to hear that. 00:15:39.613 --> 00:15:42.134 That is absolutely amazing. 00:15:42.575 --> 00:15:45.015 So what kind of tone is this comic 00:15:45.035 --> 00:15:46.057 book going to have? 00:15:46.136 --> 00:15:48.378 Are we getting some horror, some action, 00:15:48.457 --> 00:15:51.279 some like Grindhouse style movie type 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:54.921 action in this book? 00:15:55.022 --> 00:15:57.383 This comic book is a love letter to 00:15:57.403 --> 00:16:00.183 the nineties action that we all missed in 00:16:00.283 --> 00:16:00.644 Image. 00:16:01.745 --> 00:16:03.446 So we are going straight for the action. 00:16:03.466 --> 00:16:05.667 We are going straight for the explosive 00:16:05.706 --> 00:16:06.388 pages, 00:16:06.488 --> 00:16:06.707 the 00:16:09.225 --> 00:16:10.264 The way they used to do it back 00:16:10.284 --> 00:16:14.908 then with the two-page flashes and all the 00:16:14.947 --> 00:16:18.950 fun elements that people our age remember 00:16:18.990 --> 00:16:20.451 about that time in comic book. 00:16:21.691 --> 00:16:23.052 That's what we're trying to capture with 00:16:23.072 --> 00:16:23.772 this crossover. 00:16:24.633 --> 00:16:26.933 This is like a dream project that we 00:16:26.994 --> 00:16:28.414 are getting a chance to do. 00:16:28.914 --> 00:16:32.636 So how the two heroines in this comic 00:16:32.657 --> 00:16:34.097 book are very different. 00:16:35.014 --> 00:16:37.195 how are like how did y'all finish to 00:16:37.215 --> 00:16:39.416 get these two personalities to kind of 00:16:39.456 --> 00:16:43.057 behave on paper like did they start out 00:16:43.077 --> 00:16:45.798 with some initial like some head button 00:16:46.019 --> 00:16:47.519 and then kind of work it in together 00:16:47.580 --> 00:16:48.640 and like hey we got to do this 00:16:48.681 --> 00:16:50.422 as a team otherwise this isn't going to 00:16:50.481 --> 00:16:53.082 work how did that kind of like transpire 00:16:53.102 --> 00:16:56.384 between the two ladies who are the central 00:16:56.404 --> 00:17:01.307 point of this comic book um they're 00:17:01.407 --> 00:17:03.028 already going storylines 00:17:04.032 --> 00:17:06.454 made it possible for them to interact in 00:17:06.515 --> 00:17:11.159 a way that it reflected how they did 00:17:11.179 --> 00:17:13.099 in kindred so you know they're going to 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:14.821 come together of course you know they're 00:17:14.842 --> 00:17:16.343 not going to be friends at first but 00:17:16.363 --> 00:17:17.443 they're going to eventually have to work 00:17:17.463 --> 00:17:24.148 together and um and it doesn't it doesn't 00:17:24.229 --> 00:17:27.912 pause either one story you know what i 00:17:27.932 --> 00:17:30.193 mean guns off already had a storyline 00:17:30.233 --> 00:17:32.836 going on that this crossover follows 00:17:32.875 --> 00:17:33.777 through her storyline 00:17:34.675 --> 00:17:36.778 Footpath is already on the storyline 00:17:36.798 --> 00:17:37.498 that's going on. 00:17:38.138 --> 00:17:40.380 This crossover extends her storyline. 00:17:40.961 --> 00:17:43.663 And even though they're crossing over, 00:17:43.742 --> 00:17:46.884 it doesn't intersect either one storyline. 00:17:47.144 --> 00:17:47.685 You know what I mean? 00:17:47.726 --> 00:17:50.007 So it has made it convenient and made 00:17:50.027 --> 00:17:52.269 it good and gave us a chance to 00:17:52.348 --> 00:17:52.990 say, hey, 00:17:54.230 --> 00:17:55.290 if we was doing this comic book in 00:17:55.310 --> 00:17:56.652 the nineties, how would we do it? 00:17:56.952 --> 00:17:58.773 And we'll go back to how they did 00:17:58.794 --> 00:17:59.314 Wildcat. 00:17:59.334 --> 00:18:01.476 So the two page splashes, Jim Liam, 00:18:01.536 --> 00:18:04.077 Mark Silvestri in the explosive action. 00:18:04.461 --> 00:18:04.761 I was like, 00:18:04.942 --> 00:18:07.262 I really want to do that. 00:18:07.303 --> 00:18:09.222 Dude, I'm in. 00:18:09.282 --> 00:18:09.803 I'm bought in. 00:18:10.663 --> 00:18:12.044 I'm ready for this to drop and hit 00:18:12.084 --> 00:18:12.723 Kickstarter. 00:18:13.403 --> 00:18:15.523 So what surprised you the most while y'all 00:18:15.544 --> 00:18:18.565 were working on this project? 00:18:18.585 --> 00:18:19.664 Say again? 00:18:19.704 --> 00:18:21.846 What surprised you the most while working 00:18:22.006 --> 00:18:26.787 on this project? 00:18:26.826 --> 00:18:27.386 The fun. 00:18:27.426 --> 00:18:27.807 The fun. 00:18:27.866 --> 00:18:29.406 It's not really work if you're having fun, 00:18:29.467 --> 00:18:29.906 is it? 00:18:30.527 --> 00:18:30.768 Yeah. 00:18:31.347 --> 00:18:32.788 And it's not work if you're having fun. 00:18:34.223 --> 00:18:35.444 I remember when I tried to get into 00:18:35.464 --> 00:18:36.025 comic books, 00:18:36.184 --> 00:18:39.586 I submitted to Image Comics so many times. 00:18:39.666 --> 00:18:42.068 I damn near climbed through their window. 00:18:42.388 --> 00:18:45.550 I was trying everything to get into Image 00:18:45.570 --> 00:18:46.050 Comics. 00:18:47.412 --> 00:18:49.232 I sent in so many submissions to Image 00:18:49.272 --> 00:18:49.712 Comics. 00:18:49.813 --> 00:18:53.615 I remember they used to have a comic 00:18:53.634 --> 00:18:54.816 book called Dynamo Five. 00:18:55.096 --> 00:18:57.257 I think early Robert Kirkland, I think. 00:18:58.877 --> 00:19:01.500 Man, I wrote a whole crossover for my... 00:19:02.147 --> 00:19:04.269 For Domino Five, I had Rudy Vasquez, 00:19:04.328 --> 00:19:04.709 George. 00:19:05.269 --> 00:19:06.910 I sent that submission in. 00:19:06.950 --> 00:19:08.310 I was trying everything against the image 00:19:08.351 --> 00:19:08.932 at that time. 00:19:09.132 --> 00:19:10.672 Dude, 00:19:10.771 --> 00:19:11.992 and here you are working with some of 00:19:12.032 --> 00:19:14.314 the great image creators from the 00:19:14.354 --> 00:19:16.434 nineties. 00:19:16.474 --> 00:19:17.096 Incredible. 00:19:17.635 --> 00:19:21.637 That's the most fun is working with people 00:19:21.678 --> 00:19:23.378 that is in that field. 00:19:26.180 --> 00:19:27.901 It's like getting my submission for image 00:19:28.361 --> 00:19:28.882 back then. 00:19:29.122 --> 00:19:30.261 It turns me into a kid again, 00:19:30.462 --> 00:19:31.182 if that makes sense. 00:19:31.637 --> 00:19:32.958 No, dude, a hundred percent. 00:19:33.018 --> 00:19:34.919 And I think that was every kid's dream 00:19:34.999 --> 00:19:35.558 at that time. 00:19:35.598 --> 00:19:38.700 But let's dive into who the creative team 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:40.780 is on this book. 00:19:41.560 --> 00:19:46.083 We got some Edson Alves doing Anthony 00:19:46.103 --> 00:19:47.143 George on colors. 00:19:47.462 --> 00:19:47.903 And of course, 00:19:48.143 --> 00:19:50.824 Mark Bolton of Haunted Pizza Comets as 00:19:50.844 --> 00:19:51.743 your co-writer. 00:19:52.964 --> 00:19:54.105 All-star team, dude. 00:19:54.164 --> 00:19:55.865 Anybody else you want to shout out who 00:19:55.885 --> 00:19:56.925 worked on the book with y'all? 00:19:58.446 --> 00:19:59.547 Um, 00:20:01.115 --> 00:20:03.516 My designer, Sade Tamifante, 00:20:03.536 --> 00:20:04.836 came up with the logo. 00:20:07.137 --> 00:20:07.857 Mark Mahan. 00:20:08.978 --> 00:20:11.980 Been a big process of the comic book, 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:12.259 too. 00:20:13.980 --> 00:20:15.000 He's an artist. 00:20:15.020 --> 00:20:16.401 He also did a couple of covers. 00:20:17.402 --> 00:20:19.522 Serge Dilemma did a couple of covers. 00:20:20.063 --> 00:20:21.123 Anthony George, of course, 00:20:21.143 --> 00:20:22.584 with the incredible colors he's doing on 00:20:22.604 --> 00:20:23.003 the book. 00:20:23.904 --> 00:20:26.665 And there's everybody that's taking fun in 00:20:26.685 --> 00:20:27.346 this project. 00:20:27.365 --> 00:20:29.567 You got a spawn artist, Erica Bartow. 00:20:30.114 --> 00:20:31.555 came on and did a cover for us. 00:20:31.734 --> 00:20:32.535 I mean, incredible. 00:20:32.674 --> 00:20:33.394 She's amazing. 00:20:33.434 --> 00:20:36.916 Yeah, he, he's amazing. 00:20:36.936 --> 00:20:38.176 Oh, okay. 00:20:38.277 --> 00:20:44.700 And, uh, and, uh, and, um, Mark, 00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:45.539 you're on there one. 00:20:45.579 --> 00:20:46.340 That's the weeks. 00:20:46.661 --> 00:20:46.980 I mean, 00:20:47.141 --> 00:20:48.561 that's the week I'm going to did a 00:20:48.602 --> 00:20:49.561 fantastic one. 00:20:49.741 --> 00:20:50.622 So, I mean, 00:20:50.903 --> 00:20:52.202 the fact that I'm getting to work with 00:20:52.242 --> 00:20:54.784 people that years ago, 00:20:55.044 --> 00:20:56.904 I was trying to submit, submit, um, 00:20:58.022 --> 00:21:01.846 too i mean it's just an amazing feeling 00:21:01.886 --> 00:21:07.071 so how did this whole creative team 00:21:07.132 --> 00:21:09.913 actually come together and you managed to 00:21:09.993 --> 00:21:14.337 get like no guys who worked with image 00:21:14.458 --> 00:21:16.920 and at image in the nineties and on 00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:21.084 this project as well uh that that's our 00:21:21.104 --> 00:21:23.066 relationship to mark so uh 00:21:24.565 --> 00:21:24.785 Yeah, 00:21:24.805 --> 00:21:26.945 that's my relationship to Mark and Mark 00:21:26.965 --> 00:21:29.846 being in that in that environment or in 00:21:29.866 --> 00:21:31.307 that field back then. 00:21:31.346 --> 00:21:33.048 So this is all from his relationships. 00:21:33.067 --> 00:21:34.127 OK, 00:21:34.147 --> 00:21:36.048 what was it like co-writing this with 00:21:36.108 --> 00:21:36.469 Mark? 00:21:38.829 --> 00:21:39.890 Oh, he gave me some freedom, 00:21:40.869 --> 00:21:45.132 gave me opportunity and he loved it. 00:21:45.231 --> 00:21:47.413 And then, you know, 00:21:47.692 --> 00:21:49.413 he took my half and he added his 00:21:49.492 --> 00:21:50.913 half and 00:21:52.798 --> 00:21:53.078 Yeah, 00:21:53.159 --> 00:21:54.819 it turned out to be an amazing project. 00:21:55.079 --> 00:21:56.260 It has, like I said, 00:21:56.280 --> 00:21:57.682 remnants of the Kindred, 00:21:57.701 --> 00:21:58.823 and it has our own remnants. 00:21:58.843 --> 00:22:01.785 It's like half and half, and yeah, 00:22:01.865 --> 00:22:03.326 it really turned out to be an amazing 00:22:03.365 --> 00:22:03.786 project. 00:22:04.125 --> 00:22:04.645 I mean, 00:22:06.067 --> 00:22:07.728 I really shout out Mark Portran for giving 00:22:07.748 --> 00:22:09.930 me the opportunity and the chance to work 00:22:09.970 --> 00:22:12.651 with him and his team, and yeah, 00:22:12.671 --> 00:22:14.231 I'm very thankful. 00:22:14.573 --> 00:22:15.593 Dude, that's awesome. 00:22:15.952 --> 00:22:16.113 Can... 00:22:18.751 --> 00:22:22.512 So you currently have multiple kind of 00:22:22.532 --> 00:22:24.153 storylines going on right now. 00:22:24.212 --> 00:22:26.594 Do all your stories kind of interweave and 00:22:26.653 --> 00:22:29.894 crossover into each other and fit within 00:22:30.134 --> 00:22:36.536 all of your universe? 00:22:36.635 --> 00:22:39.736 Only the chess-related titles are kind of 00:22:39.756 --> 00:22:41.797 like, they play around with each other. 00:22:42.356 --> 00:22:43.696 I got some new titles that I'm working 00:22:43.717 --> 00:22:45.077 on, some new people that don't. 00:22:45.637 --> 00:22:47.137 Like Osmo is a new character. 00:22:47.961 --> 00:22:49.040 from the Mario Hill. 00:22:50.362 --> 00:22:52.902 Squawk is a new character from Jason 00:22:52.922 --> 00:22:53.501 Martizia. 00:22:54.722 --> 00:22:56.803 So these are characters that don't 00:22:56.823 --> 00:22:59.104 particularly relate to my type. 00:22:59.144 --> 00:23:00.503 This is brand new titles. 00:23:00.523 --> 00:23:02.444 Okay. 00:23:02.484 --> 00:23:05.424 So let's talk about some of the... 00:23:05.444 --> 00:23:07.665 You had sent me some covers earlier and 00:23:07.685 --> 00:23:08.566 you had some... 00:23:10.686 --> 00:23:12.987 My guy Malcolm on there from SIS-XV. 00:23:14.008 --> 00:23:15.307 How did that come about with you and 00:23:15.327 --> 00:23:15.667 Malcolm? 00:23:18.474 --> 00:23:19.496 Me, Malcolm, 00:23:19.615 --> 00:23:21.218 and another creator by the name of Tony 00:23:21.238 --> 00:23:21.718 Cottrell. 00:23:23.259 --> 00:23:23.799 Okay. 00:23:24.180 --> 00:23:28.483 We all had characters that I guess if 00:23:28.503 --> 00:23:29.845 you look at a comic book, 00:23:30.145 --> 00:23:33.429 they'll look similar to you, right? 00:23:33.449 --> 00:23:34.630 Tony has Southside. 00:23:35.410 --> 00:23:36.790 Malcolm has Subject Zero. 00:23:37.632 --> 00:23:38.472 I have Pinpoint. 00:23:38.613 --> 00:23:39.913 So on the cover, 00:23:40.894 --> 00:23:43.817 they look like the same character, right? 00:23:43.837 --> 00:23:44.157 Okay. 00:23:44.431 --> 00:23:45.372 They're doing the same thing. 00:23:45.392 --> 00:23:46.132 They're all mercs. 00:23:46.152 --> 00:23:47.133 They all got guns. 00:23:49.595 --> 00:23:50.714 If you don't know the character, 00:23:51.736 --> 00:23:54.218 there will be similar characters. 00:23:54.278 --> 00:23:55.178 We had a conversation. 00:23:55.199 --> 00:23:55.719 I was like, hey, 00:23:55.739 --> 00:23:58.701 let's do a crossover to show how these 00:23:58.721 --> 00:24:00.701 characters are different, 00:24:00.922 --> 00:24:02.403 even though they look the same or do 00:24:02.443 --> 00:24:04.325 the same things. 00:24:04.345 --> 00:24:05.986 That crossover ended up being Bear and 00:24:06.026 --> 00:24:09.568 Bullets. 00:24:09.929 --> 00:24:11.369 That crossover is very successful. 00:24:11.710 --> 00:24:13.090 Working with Tony and Malcolm, 00:24:14.234 --> 00:24:16.916 I mean, that was an incredible experience. 00:24:17.596 --> 00:24:18.617 You know, 00:24:19.999 --> 00:24:23.721 Malcolm is such a young inspiration in the 00:24:23.760 --> 00:24:25.342 field, you know, young energy. 00:24:26.442 --> 00:24:29.305 And, yeah, that was an amazing experience. 00:24:29.365 --> 00:24:34.188 So that crossover led into The Bear, 00:24:34.907 --> 00:24:39.550 which is like a follow-up because it's 00:24:39.611 --> 00:24:40.971 pinpoint and subject zero again. 00:24:42.306 --> 00:24:44.826 But yeah, it made it fun. 00:24:44.846 --> 00:24:45.446 It's like, hey, 00:24:45.467 --> 00:24:48.288 these characters next to each other, 00:24:48.788 --> 00:24:49.607 it's a fun read. 00:24:49.887 --> 00:24:51.769 So let's do it again. 00:24:52.808 --> 00:24:56.109 That crossover actually came from a 00:24:56.190 --> 00:24:57.911 comment from a gentleman named A. 00:24:57.951 --> 00:25:01.832 Fuller Bay on a comment on Facebook about 00:25:02.892 --> 00:25:05.012 there's a bear in Bear and Bullets and 00:25:05.073 --> 00:25:07.292 a bear in one of Malcolm's comic books. 00:25:07.333 --> 00:25:07.894 And he's like, hey, 00:25:07.913 --> 00:25:09.374 that bear needs its own storyline. 00:25:10.123 --> 00:25:10.763 Like a joke. 00:25:11.105 --> 00:25:12.688 And from that joke, we was like, hey, 00:25:13.529 --> 00:25:15.993 hey, you know something? 00:25:16.013 --> 00:25:16.535 Next thing you know, 00:25:16.555 --> 00:25:17.678 we got a comic book called The Bear. 00:25:19.178 --> 00:25:19.878 Dude, that's awesome. 00:25:20.179 --> 00:25:22.421 And for those unfamiliar with who Malcolm 00:25:22.520 --> 00:25:24.061 in SIS-Fifteen Comics is, 00:25:24.481 --> 00:25:26.423 you can go over to my YouTube page 00:25:27.023 --> 00:25:29.185 and watch my interview with Malcolm. 00:25:29.705 --> 00:25:31.248 He is definitely one of the young 00:25:31.548 --> 00:25:33.849 up-and-comers in comic books right now, 00:25:33.869 --> 00:25:35.411 especially indie comics. 00:25:35.951 --> 00:25:38.393 Go give that interview a watch and then 00:25:38.432 --> 00:25:39.994 go over and give him a follow because 00:25:40.035 --> 00:25:42.916 he is a fantastic writer with a very 00:25:42.957 --> 00:25:44.718 bright future ahead of him. 00:25:45.038 --> 00:25:45.858 Incredible. 00:25:46.019 --> 00:25:46.539 Incredible. 00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:47.401 Incredible. 00:25:47.421 --> 00:25:47.681 Yeah. 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:50.461 But thanks for talking to us about Malcolm 00:25:50.481 --> 00:25:52.903 because he deserves some love and a shout 00:25:52.942 --> 00:25:56.065 out on that one because he is really 00:25:56.105 --> 00:25:57.826 good and deserves some more love. 00:25:58.487 --> 00:25:59.748 So I appreciate that. 00:26:00.448 --> 00:26:06.152 So do you see more crossovers coming in 00:26:06.172 --> 00:26:10.134 the future for your characters? 00:26:10.194 --> 00:26:11.095 Well, I enjoy them. 00:26:11.355 --> 00:26:12.496 I like the interaction. 00:26:12.536 --> 00:26:15.377 Like I said, I've been writing since like 00:26:15.847 --> 00:26:16.887 early two thousands. 00:26:17.067 --> 00:26:17.848 And, uh, you know, 00:26:17.868 --> 00:26:21.028 I went through all the standards and, and, 00:26:21.189 --> 00:26:22.829 and, um, the regular way. 00:26:22.869 --> 00:26:24.029 So now it's just about fun. 00:26:24.049 --> 00:26:25.150 These crossovers are fun. 00:26:25.691 --> 00:26:27.230 You get to meet, uh, uh, 00:26:27.250 --> 00:26:29.531 these other creators and have ideas and 00:26:29.571 --> 00:26:30.412 talk to each other. 00:26:30.571 --> 00:26:31.211 And, and, and, 00:26:31.551 --> 00:26:32.752 and now it's just in a format that 00:26:32.772 --> 00:26:33.692 we could, we could do it. 00:26:34.913 --> 00:26:35.932 You know, it's nothing stopping us. 00:26:36.794 --> 00:26:37.433 Hey, I like this idea. 00:26:37.453 --> 00:26:37.933 Let's do it. 00:26:38.273 --> 00:26:38.874 You know what I mean? 00:26:39.134 --> 00:26:40.815 And it's just, and it's just that simple. 00:26:41.075 --> 00:26:41.494 And, um, 00:26:42.134 --> 00:26:43.734 these conversations are fantastic. 00:26:43.755 --> 00:26:44.375 You know, uh, 00:26:44.596 --> 00:26:45.736 I'm getting a chance to work with, 00:26:46.148 --> 00:26:48.170 So many incredible other creators. 00:26:48.310 --> 00:26:50.332 I had a chance to work with Tony 00:26:50.352 --> 00:26:50.771 Cottrell. 00:26:50.791 --> 00:26:51.833 I had a chance to work with Malcolm. 00:26:51.853 --> 00:26:53.013 I had a chance to work with Mark. 00:26:53.354 --> 00:26:53.693 You know, 00:26:53.713 --> 00:26:55.615 just working with different people, 00:26:57.336 --> 00:26:57.997 it's amazing. 00:26:58.356 --> 00:26:59.979 Some younger than me, some older than me. 00:26:59.999 --> 00:27:00.898 You get some knowledge. 00:27:01.058 --> 00:27:02.079 You get some inspiration. 00:27:03.221 --> 00:27:04.781 It's just a fun field to be in 00:27:04.842 --> 00:27:06.163 and an enjoyment field to be in. 00:27:07.991 --> 00:27:08.112 Dude. 00:27:08.132 --> 00:27:09.373 And so I've been doing this for about 00:27:09.553 --> 00:27:10.133 a year now, 00:27:10.353 --> 00:27:12.913 a year plus doing just straight indie 00:27:12.953 --> 00:27:14.513 content, indie creators. 00:27:15.193 --> 00:27:17.414 And I've gotten to meet so many amazing 00:27:17.535 --> 00:27:20.635 guys and gals with like tons and tons 00:27:20.675 --> 00:27:23.195 of talent who honestly, 00:27:23.375 --> 00:27:26.277 this is how they get the love they 00:27:26.576 --> 00:27:29.137 deserve is coming on here and other 00:27:29.157 --> 00:27:29.857 podcasts, 00:27:30.377 --> 00:27:32.239 sharing their stuff on social media. 00:27:33.544 --> 00:27:35.986 But it's been such a fun ride for 00:27:36.066 --> 00:27:38.188 me from that perspective and getting to 00:27:38.228 --> 00:27:42.010 know all of you and so many. 00:27:42.050 --> 00:27:44.373 So much great talent out there who is 00:27:44.452 --> 00:27:45.673 getting overlooked. 00:27:46.494 --> 00:27:47.816 And one of the big things I'll do 00:27:47.875 --> 00:27:50.136 here is try to bring that spotlight to 00:27:50.176 --> 00:27:51.417 them and. 00:27:52.583 --> 00:27:54.545 Alfred found me because I post in a 00:27:54.565 --> 00:27:56.907 lot of different Facebook groups and said, 00:27:56.928 --> 00:27:58.529 hey, let me get in on that. 00:27:59.030 --> 00:28:00.152 And here he is tonight. 00:28:00.653 --> 00:28:02.734 So for those unfamiliar with him, 00:28:02.795 --> 00:28:04.636 please go give him a like or a 00:28:04.696 --> 00:28:08.701 follow on Instagram and Facebook if you 00:28:09.242 --> 00:28:09.682 can. 00:28:10.624 --> 00:28:11.765 It would greatly appreciate it. 00:28:11.785 --> 00:28:13.767 Shine some more spotlights on Alfred and 00:28:13.787 --> 00:28:15.367 what he's doing because he does have an 00:28:15.407 --> 00:28:18.029 incredible book coming out here in April 00:28:18.069 --> 00:28:20.191 that we are going to talk about a 00:28:20.211 --> 00:28:23.133 little bit more now with the Kickstarter. 00:28:23.673 --> 00:28:24.394 So, Alfred, 00:28:24.433 --> 00:28:28.136 walk us through your Kickstarter. 00:28:28.277 --> 00:28:31.500 It's launching next month in April. 00:28:33.016 --> 00:28:34.738 Do you have a ship? 00:28:34.778 --> 00:28:35.678 This is only February. 00:28:35.698 --> 00:28:37.539 We're launching in two months. 00:28:39.161 --> 00:28:39.320 Yeah. 00:28:39.421 --> 00:28:41.883 I'm a month ahead of myself in April. 00:28:41.982 --> 00:28:43.884 Yeah. 00:28:44.005 --> 00:28:44.805 There's six pages. 00:28:44.825 --> 00:28:45.865 So you just give us some room. 00:28:46.287 --> 00:28:46.527 Yeah. 00:28:46.646 --> 00:28:47.067 Okay. 00:28:47.126 --> 00:28:47.708 No, dude, that, 00:28:47.768 --> 00:28:49.828 that makes a hundred percent sense because 00:28:50.670 --> 00:28:50.970 yeah, 00:28:51.049 --> 00:28:53.412 sixty page comic book is a lot for 00:28:53.612 --> 00:28:55.273 anybody to take on and try to, 00:28:55.913 --> 00:28:56.994 and you don't want it to be too 00:28:57.015 --> 00:28:58.655 fast because then it gets sloppy and you 00:28:58.675 --> 00:28:59.416 don't want to do that. 00:28:59.934 --> 00:29:02.777 Especially with the names on this book, 00:29:02.797 --> 00:29:04.719 because there's big names on this book. 00:29:05.660 --> 00:29:07.461 We're talking ties to image in the 00:29:07.520 --> 00:29:08.662 nineties and today. 00:29:09.221 --> 00:29:11.344 So this one definitely doesn't need to be 00:29:11.423 --> 00:29:12.345 rushed out. 00:29:12.785 --> 00:29:14.606 So what has got you most excited about 00:29:14.666 --> 00:29:16.448 this campaign in particular? 00:29:18.009 --> 00:29:20.471 The attention that, like you just said, 00:29:20.490 --> 00:29:23.794 the attention that is getting from people 00:29:23.834 --> 00:29:25.275 of the era of my influence. 00:29:26.096 --> 00:29:26.435 I mean, 00:29:26.556 --> 00:29:27.836 I got a couple of my Dexter weeks. 00:29:27.856 --> 00:29:28.998 That's like a dream come true. 00:29:29.701 --> 00:29:30.321 You know what I mean? 00:29:30.362 --> 00:29:31.563 I got a cover by I got a 00:29:32.103 --> 00:29:33.723 cover by Rico about that. 00:29:33.884 --> 00:29:34.743 That's a dream come true. 00:29:35.263 --> 00:29:35.763 So, you know, 00:29:36.065 --> 00:29:38.645 that's the fact that the idea of the 00:29:38.726 --> 00:29:41.987 of this Kickstarter is gaining more 00:29:42.047 --> 00:29:44.188 attention from people that as an 00:29:44.307 --> 00:29:44.788 influence. 00:29:45.048 --> 00:29:45.208 I mean, 00:29:45.407 --> 00:29:46.729 that's amazing to get a chance to work 00:29:46.749 --> 00:29:48.528 with these people. 00:29:48.648 --> 00:29:52.250 So that's what made it ten times more 00:29:52.290 --> 00:29:52.550 better. 00:29:53.567 --> 00:29:56.650 You're literally you're living every 00:29:56.789 --> 00:29:57.049 image. 00:29:57.109 --> 00:29:59.392 Nineties kids dream, right? 00:29:59.412 --> 00:29:59.913 That's right. 00:30:00.093 --> 00:30:00.553 That's right. 00:30:01.013 --> 00:30:02.714 I just it's like just getting my 00:30:02.734 --> 00:30:04.676 submission accepted now. 00:30:06.137 --> 00:30:06.939 Twenty twenty six. 00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:09.320 Hey, it's never too late, right? 00:30:10.442 --> 00:30:11.782 It's never too late. 00:30:11.823 --> 00:30:14.766 So that's obviously you've launched 00:30:14.986 --> 00:30:18.288 multiple Kickstarters during your 00:30:18.808 --> 00:30:20.351 independent creator journey here. 00:30:21.092 --> 00:30:21.291 what, 00:30:21.432 --> 00:30:22.932 what are some of the lessons you've 00:30:23.011 --> 00:30:25.272 learned personally while running 00:30:25.333 --> 00:30:26.992 Kickstarters that you're bringing into 00:30:27.053 --> 00:30:31.794 this one with, uh, with, uh, 00:30:31.814 --> 00:30:33.213 I think Mark, sorry, 00:30:33.713 --> 00:30:36.795 I was brain farting his name. 00:30:36.875 --> 00:30:37.174 Yeah. 00:30:37.474 --> 00:30:39.734 Um, it's, it's just the experience, 00:30:39.755 --> 00:30:39.954 you know, 00:30:39.994 --> 00:30:42.115 Kickstarter is always its own experience. 00:30:42.135 --> 00:30:42.915 You know what I mean? 00:30:42.955 --> 00:30:44.195 No matter how many times you do it, 00:30:44.316 --> 00:30:46.817 it's, it's, it's the, it's a grind. 00:30:47.057 --> 00:30:47.696 It's a hustle. 00:30:49.076 --> 00:30:49.277 Um, 00:30:49.638 --> 00:30:50.900 this one has not, 00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:52.260 this one's a little bit better because 00:30:52.300 --> 00:30:57.345 it's more fun and, and it's more, 00:30:57.765 --> 00:30:59.365 and it's more about us than the 00:30:59.385 --> 00:30:59.946 Kickstarter. 00:31:00.027 --> 00:31:00.686 That makes sense. 00:31:01.347 --> 00:31:02.749 But, um, yeah. 00:31:02.788 --> 00:31:03.209 Yeah. 00:31:03.348 --> 00:31:06.451 So, but the grind, 00:31:06.490 --> 00:31:08.413 the grind and Kickstarter, it's, 00:31:08.432 --> 00:31:11.474 it's always a rotation of, of work, uh, 00:31:12.295 --> 00:31:13.435 promo marketing. 00:31:14.817 --> 00:31:17.058 And, um, yeah, those things, um, 00:31:17.818 --> 00:31:18.440 I mean, you know, 00:31:19.441 --> 00:31:20.602 every side of fun is a side of 00:31:20.642 --> 00:31:22.124 business and it's a job to do. 00:31:23.025 --> 00:31:23.705 So, I mean, 00:31:23.945 --> 00:31:26.608 that's just about it right there. 00:31:26.709 --> 00:31:28.891 And I don't think like for the average 00:31:28.931 --> 00:31:30.913 person out there who may not know this, 00:31:33.103 --> 00:31:36.664 it is a lot of work that goes 00:31:36.785 --> 00:31:39.807 into doing a Kickstarter campaign. 00:31:40.448 --> 00:31:41.729 Lots of front end work, 00:31:41.788 --> 00:31:43.570 lots of work in the middle, 00:31:44.030 --> 00:31:45.692 lots of work at the end of the 00:31:45.731 --> 00:31:46.232 product. 00:31:46.972 --> 00:31:49.535 It is just a lot of work that 00:31:49.615 --> 00:31:52.096 I don't think the normal person out there 00:31:52.176 --> 00:31:55.519 really realize what's going into not just 00:31:55.579 --> 00:31:56.721 make the comic book, 00:31:57.522 --> 00:31:59.483 But the front end work of that as 00:31:59.584 --> 00:32:01.704 well, coming on podcast, 00:32:02.365 --> 00:32:03.964 doing the social media thing, 00:32:04.786 --> 00:32:07.207 that is a lot of work to do. 00:32:07.287 --> 00:32:08.946 And trying to get on podcast, 00:32:08.987 --> 00:32:10.827 it's not easy. 00:32:10.867 --> 00:32:14.209 Some people can't bring themselves to come 00:32:14.288 --> 00:32:16.809 on a live podcast and speak to people 00:32:17.351 --> 00:32:18.111 live in person. 00:32:18.131 --> 00:32:18.530 That's right. 00:32:18.550 --> 00:32:19.270 That's right. 00:32:19.471 --> 00:32:22.152 That's right. 00:32:22.613 --> 00:32:22.833 So... 00:32:24.332 --> 00:32:25.413 it's kind of wild in that, 00:32:26.113 --> 00:32:30.996 but so how important is crowdfunding to 00:32:31.036 --> 00:32:31.215 the, 00:32:31.957 --> 00:32:34.038 to independent creators and their 00:32:34.097 --> 00:32:38.119 sustainability? 00:32:38.220 --> 00:32:40.662 It's man, it's, it's, it's the way, 00:32:41.122 --> 00:32:42.021 I mean, that, that's the, 00:32:42.042 --> 00:32:42.923 that's the lifeline. 00:32:42.962 --> 00:32:45.344 That's the blood of the indie market, uh, 00:32:45.424 --> 00:32:46.125 crowdfunding. 00:32:46.244 --> 00:32:48.625 I mean, that's, that's, I mean, yeah, 00:32:48.665 --> 00:32:50.186 you got other ways that you could get 00:32:50.207 --> 00:32:50.928 your comic book out. 00:32:50.948 --> 00:32:52.868 You got direct market, you got, uh, 00:32:53.705 --> 00:32:55.287 publications, you got distribution, 00:32:56.446 --> 00:33:00.868 but the majority is crowdfunding allows 00:33:00.909 --> 00:33:05.731 you to push out your ideas and meet 00:33:05.771 --> 00:33:06.311 new people. 00:33:07.152 --> 00:33:08.173 Outside conventions, 00:33:08.232 --> 00:33:10.693 it's the only way to really be noticed 00:33:11.814 --> 00:33:12.273 everywhere. 00:33:12.934 --> 00:33:15.276 You know what I mean? 00:33:15.355 --> 00:33:16.797 Absolutely. 00:33:17.257 --> 00:33:20.458 You want somebody in Canada to get your 00:33:20.478 --> 00:33:20.917 comic book. 00:33:20.958 --> 00:33:21.999 You want somebody in 00:33:23.063 --> 00:33:23.303 You know, 00:33:23.323 --> 00:33:25.223 wherever they have access to your comic 00:33:25.243 --> 00:33:25.443 book. 00:33:25.503 --> 00:33:26.923 And, you know, 00:33:26.983 --> 00:33:28.085 you don't know who's going to become a 00:33:28.144 --> 00:33:29.964 fan of your comic book. 00:33:30.005 --> 00:33:32.365 We're in the world and crowdfunding allows 00:33:32.385 --> 00:33:32.645 that. 00:33:32.705 --> 00:33:35.227 So it's a very important process to the 00:33:35.287 --> 00:33:37.048 indie market. 00:33:37.087 --> 00:33:37.567 Oh, yeah. 00:33:37.748 --> 00:33:39.107 And it's one of those where I tell 00:33:39.127 --> 00:33:40.949 people I'm happy just to play my small 00:33:40.989 --> 00:33:43.569 little part in that process for the 00:33:43.609 --> 00:33:45.390 creators that come on here because it 00:33:45.609 --> 00:33:46.971 truly is a lot of fun. 00:33:47.807 --> 00:33:50.209 to me to get to see some of 00:33:50.229 --> 00:33:52.309 these projects kind of in that process of 00:33:52.349 --> 00:33:54.531 being made along the way to get to 00:33:54.592 --> 00:33:56.492 see the coverage before the average Joe 00:33:56.512 --> 00:33:56.873 does. 00:33:58.273 --> 00:33:59.035 And I don't want to say that's a 00:33:59.055 --> 00:34:00.414 perk of the job because it's not the 00:34:00.474 --> 00:34:01.816 perk of the job is actually getting to 00:34:01.836 --> 00:34:04.698 talk to Alfred and other creators when 00:34:04.718 --> 00:34:07.519 they come on the show to discuss their, 00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:08.820 you know, creation. 00:34:09.460 --> 00:34:09.902 And to me, 00:34:09.922 --> 00:34:11.543 that's the fun thing that I get to 00:34:11.583 --> 00:34:14.364 do in that process is that right there. 00:34:14.385 --> 00:34:15.786 So that's right. 00:34:18.364 --> 00:34:20.806 What kind of fun stuff do y'all have 00:34:20.965 --> 00:34:22.387 for this Kickstarter? 00:34:22.987 --> 00:34:24.427 You're going to have some exclusives, 00:34:24.487 --> 00:34:25.467 some stretch goals, 00:34:25.509 --> 00:34:27.289 some extras in there for people. 00:34:27.869 --> 00:34:29.771 What can they expect from the actual 00:34:29.811 --> 00:34:32.831 campaign itself? 00:34:32.911 --> 00:34:34.913 Oh, we got tons of stuff coming up. 00:34:34.932 --> 00:34:37.574 We got more artwork coming up, rewards, 00:34:37.594 --> 00:34:38.255 stretch goals. 00:34:38.974 --> 00:34:39.335 Obviously, 00:34:39.355 --> 00:34:42.476 you're going to get access to the history 00:34:42.496 --> 00:34:44.777 of Mark's past titles. 00:34:44.797 --> 00:34:46.719 You're going to get access to... 00:34:51.240 --> 00:34:53.262 I don't know if it's your headphones or 00:34:53.322 --> 00:34:55.664 where your jack is plugged into your 00:34:55.704 --> 00:34:58.286 phone, but it's causing your mic. 00:34:58.387 --> 00:34:58.806 There it goes. 00:34:58.867 --> 00:34:59.347 It stopped now. 00:34:59.367 --> 00:34:59.447 Okay. 00:35:00.228 --> 00:35:01.949 All right. 00:35:01.989 --> 00:35:03.650 We're good now. 00:35:03.751 --> 00:35:04.012 Okay. 00:35:04.351 --> 00:35:04.672 Yeah. 00:35:04.731 --> 00:35:06.052 So, as I was saying, oh, 00:35:06.094 --> 00:35:06.873 the stretch goals. 00:35:07.173 --> 00:35:08.516 You're going to get some more artwork. 00:35:09.215 --> 00:35:11.057 You're going to get access to the history 00:35:11.097 --> 00:35:12.998 of Mark and everything he's done. 00:35:13.018 --> 00:35:15.240 You're going to get access to the page 00:35:15.340 --> 00:35:16.001 one comics. 00:35:17.182 --> 00:35:17.402 Okay. 00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:19.121 And we got some other things coming up. 00:35:19.641 --> 00:35:22.523 Mark Poulter is, I would say, 00:35:22.543 --> 00:35:26.045 like an incredible campaign person. 00:35:27.445 --> 00:35:27.965 Incredible. 00:35:28.706 --> 00:35:33.768 So he got some things coming up for 00:35:33.809 --> 00:35:34.090 y'all. 00:35:34.230 --> 00:35:37.050 And y'all just got to look out for 00:35:37.110 --> 00:35:37.411 him. 00:35:37.952 --> 00:35:40.172 Do they need to go follow Mark Poulter 00:35:40.652 --> 00:35:44.255 or Mark Poulter on Kickstarter in order to 00:35:44.414 --> 00:35:46.195 be notified for this campaign? 00:35:47.969 --> 00:35:49.431 This campaign is underneath Mark Poltern. 00:35:49.451 --> 00:35:49.911 Yes, that is correct. 00:35:50.030 --> 00:35:50.351 Okay. 00:35:50.431 --> 00:35:51.311 Okay. 00:35:52.052 --> 00:35:53.092 So I just want to make sure people 00:35:53.112 --> 00:35:55.614 understood that this particular project is 00:35:55.655 --> 00:35:57.976 going to be under Mark Poltern. 00:35:58.036 --> 00:36:00.597 M-A-R-K-P-O-U-L-T-O-N. 00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:02.860 So if you're on Kickstarter and you want 00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:05.041 to go follow this project in particular, 00:36:05.561 --> 00:36:07.802 it's under Mark Poltern's name. 00:36:08.143 --> 00:36:09.664 Make sure you hit that notify me on 00:36:09.724 --> 00:36:10.105 launch. 00:36:10.144 --> 00:36:11.306 That way you get that immediate 00:36:11.346 --> 00:36:13.547 notification that this is live. 00:36:13.586 --> 00:36:16.228 You're not going to want to miss this 00:36:16.289 --> 00:36:17.449 project at all. 00:36:18.663 --> 00:36:21.304 So and haunted pizza, 00:36:21.364 --> 00:36:22.384 haunted pizza comments, 00:36:22.963 --> 00:36:25.324 haunted pizza comments, page one comments. 00:36:25.425 --> 00:36:26.844 Give them both a follow that way. 00:36:26.864 --> 00:36:28.965 You get all the updates of this process 00:36:29.126 --> 00:36:29.806 as they go. 00:36:30.326 --> 00:36:31.525 Because I can go ahead and tell you 00:36:31.545 --> 00:36:32.206 all right now. 00:36:33.427 --> 00:36:35.266 I've teased a couple of the covers for 00:36:35.306 --> 00:36:37.027 y'all when I did the hype video for 00:36:37.068 --> 00:36:37.748 this interview. 00:36:38.248 --> 00:36:40.268 They're going to be some fantastic stuff 00:36:40.869 --> 00:36:41.289 coming, 00:36:41.369 --> 00:36:43.168 especially if you're over following Mark's 00:36:43.188 --> 00:36:43.568 page. 00:36:44.068 --> 00:36:45.349 You're going to see some great behind the 00:36:45.369 --> 00:36:46.289 scenes stuff on that. 00:36:47.789 --> 00:36:48.710 Yeah, yeah. 00:36:48.771 --> 00:36:49.610 Muck is no joke. 00:36:50.952 --> 00:36:51.192 Alfred, 00:36:51.211 --> 00:36:52.632 can you kind of walk us through how 00:36:52.713 --> 00:36:55.733 you do your writing? 00:36:56.574 --> 00:37:03.998 How do you like to do that? 00:37:04.099 --> 00:37:04.998 I just go with my idea. 00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:06.639 I mean, go ahead. 00:37:07.454 --> 00:37:08.856 I was going to like, you know, 00:37:09.275 --> 00:37:10.737 are you kind of like sit in a 00:37:10.777 --> 00:37:12.759 quiet room and kind of like type away? 00:37:12.818 --> 00:37:13.460 Or are you like, 00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:16.282 like you like to listen to music while 00:37:16.322 --> 00:37:17.021 you work? 00:37:17.081 --> 00:37:18.884 Or just like, what kind of like, 00:37:20.284 --> 00:37:24.027 what gets Alfred in that zone to start 00:37:24.047 --> 00:37:27.530 creating what he creates? 00:37:28.050 --> 00:37:29.132 I try to write it as soon as 00:37:29.172 --> 00:37:30.713 I have the idea while it's fresh. 00:37:32.253 --> 00:37:33.695 So, like, you know, 00:37:33.815 --> 00:37:34.856 it hits you at any time. 00:37:34.976 --> 00:37:35.996 I mean, I mean, 00:37:37.036 --> 00:37:38.860 ideas hit you from anything you know you 00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:40.041 can watch a car go down the street 00:37:40.081 --> 00:37:43.025 and see a red car like hey you 00:37:43.045 --> 00:37:44.527 know i got an idea you know what 00:37:44.547 --> 00:37:46.309 i mean and then you know all the 00:37:46.409 --> 00:37:49.012 ideas fresh and and you can actually see 00:37:49.032 --> 00:37:50.333 the whole idea you want to get as 00:37:50.393 --> 00:37:51.635 much of it out as possible 00:37:53.190 --> 00:37:53.690 Your first draft. 00:37:53.710 --> 00:37:55.170 I'm kind of laughing inside to myself 00:37:55.190 --> 00:37:59.130 because that reminds me of Lonnie of Dark 00:37:59.150 --> 00:37:59.851 City Comets. 00:38:00.251 --> 00:38:01.811 He does that to people. 00:38:01.831 --> 00:38:06.273 He says he shoots random story parts of 00:38:06.333 --> 00:38:09.994 a story or random story ideas to people 00:38:10.034 --> 00:38:11.634 while he's messaging them. 00:38:11.653 --> 00:38:14.434 If he's messaging somebody and the idea 00:38:14.474 --> 00:38:14.695 hits, 00:38:14.735 --> 00:38:16.014 he just types it out real quick and 00:38:16.054 --> 00:38:17.914 sends it to them to kind of create 00:38:17.934 --> 00:38:19.295 that record of that idea. 00:38:19.315 --> 00:38:21.215 That way he doesn't lose that idea. 00:38:22.047 --> 00:38:22.387 Yep. 00:38:22.487 --> 00:38:22.668 Yep. 00:38:22.708 --> 00:38:23.088 That's right. 00:38:23.248 --> 00:38:23.628 That's right. 00:38:23.809 --> 00:38:24.068 Yeah. 00:38:24.128 --> 00:38:25.108 So that's it. 00:38:25.789 --> 00:38:27.851 I mean, it's just, it does hit you, 00:38:28.070 --> 00:38:28.670 you know what I mean? 00:38:28.710 --> 00:38:29.690 So, uh, I mean, 00:38:29.731 --> 00:38:31.492 I know some people got different 00:38:31.532 --> 00:38:33.672 processes, you know, some people put, uh, 00:38:34.253 --> 00:38:34.813 maybe a different, 00:38:34.833 --> 00:38:37.275 more different study into it or, or, or, 00:38:37.335 --> 00:38:42.916 you know, um, uh, and not influence, 00:38:42.956 --> 00:38:44.838 but a study into what they're trying to 00:38:44.878 --> 00:38:45.097 do. 00:38:45.858 --> 00:38:46.739 Right. 00:38:46.759 --> 00:38:49.380 Some people got characters that, you know, 00:38:49.659 --> 00:38:51.601 it's from history, you know what I mean? 00:38:53.884 --> 00:38:55.605 Their process is different because they 00:38:55.644 --> 00:38:58.286 study that particular history to make a 00:38:58.327 --> 00:39:00.068 character that reflects what they're 00:39:00.088 --> 00:39:02.909 trying to do for that time period. 00:39:02.929 --> 00:39:04.590 Everybody got a different process and 00:39:04.731 --> 00:39:07.172 stuff like that. 00:39:07.193 --> 00:39:07.793 For the most part, 00:39:07.992 --> 00:39:09.534 as soon as I get it, 00:39:09.715 --> 00:39:11.795 I try to put my first draft down 00:39:11.876 --> 00:39:13.876 and then go back and edit it and 00:39:13.916 --> 00:39:15.177 fix it to the way I want it. 00:39:15.197 --> 00:39:15.277 Okay. 00:39:17.025 --> 00:39:17.204 All right, 00:39:17.224 --> 00:39:19.286 so let's hit those rapid-fire questions I 00:39:19.306 --> 00:39:21.166 told you about before we got started. 00:39:21.586 --> 00:39:22.128 Are you ready? 00:39:22.507 --> 00:39:23.347 Mm-hmm. 00:39:23.427 --> 00:39:23.748 I'm ready. 00:39:24.349 --> 00:39:28.911 Your favorite anti-hero? 00:39:28.951 --> 00:39:29.311 Magneto. 00:39:29.331 --> 00:39:32.393 All right. 00:39:32.413 --> 00:39:33.012 Would that count? 00:39:33.833 --> 00:39:34.534 Yeah, no. 00:39:34.893 --> 00:39:36.235 It's your questions, man. 00:39:36.514 --> 00:39:37.335 I'm just asking. 00:39:37.954 --> 00:39:40.956 It's whoever you want it to be. 00:39:40.996 --> 00:39:43.418 So now, horror or action? 00:39:43.438 --> 00:39:44.679 Action. 00:39:44.818 --> 00:39:45.099 Action. 00:39:46.701 --> 00:39:47.681 Print or digital? 00:39:49.603 --> 00:39:49.963 Print. 00:39:50.882 --> 00:39:51.403 Same, man. 00:39:51.443 --> 00:39:52.943 I got to have that print. 00:39:53.063 --> 00:39:54.485 I love the smell of a new comic 00:39:54.525 --> 00:39:54.824 book. 00:39:55.126 --> 00:39:56.385 I got to have it in my hand. 00:39:56.585 --> 00:39:57.666 I got to have it in my hand. 00:39:57.987 --> 00:40:01.048 It's nothing like rereading a comic book 00:40:01.088 --> 00:40:03.030 in your hand multiple times. 00:40:03.110 --> 00:40:04.530 Then, you know, digitally, 00:40:04.650 --> 00:40:05.992 you might get it one time or something, 00:40:06.012 --> 00:40:07.853 but you don't really go back to it. 00:40:07.932 --> 00:40:08.253 Oh, yeah. 00:40:08.833 --> 00:40:12.054 So, now, Kickstarter must-haves. 00:40:13.768 --> 00:40:15.190 So when you kick off a Kickstarter, 00:40:15.230 --> 00:40:17.351 what are some of your must-haves when you 00:40:17.371 --> 00:40:19.231 do it? 00:40:19.271 --> 00:40:20.172 Limited covers. 00:40:23.394 --> 00:40:24.135 Variant artworks. 00:40:24.155 --> 00:40:29.318 You know, maybe some posters, 00:40:29.358 --> 00:40:30.039 something like that. 00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:32.960 Maybe some additional things that, I mean, 00:40:33.501 --> 00:40:33.840 for me, 00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:34.681 I just want to read the book. 00:40:34.900 --> 00:40:36.461 So, I mean, 00:40:36.561 --> 00:40:38.643 I know some people go into Kickstarter for 00:40:38.664 --> 00:40:39.943 the extras and the add-ons. 00:40:39.963 --> 00:40:40.804 Yep. 00:40:42.018 --> 00:40:42.438 To this day, 00:40:42.498 --> 00:40:45.320 I never supported an add-on or a stretch 00:40:45.340 --> 00:40:46.181 goal in the Kickstarter. 00:40:46.681 --> 00:40:47.342 I just want the book. 00:40:48.722 --> 00:40:49.583 If I'm interested in the book, 00:40:49.623 --> 00:40:50.224 I just want the book. 00:40:50.384 --> 00:40:51.224 All that other stuff. 00:40:52.585 --> 00:40:55.588 I know some people go for shirts and 00:40:55.628 --> 00:40:58.050 bonuses and things that Kickstarter 00:40:58.190 --> 00:40:58.690 allows. 00:40:59.666 --> 00:41:01.427 uh i i can't say i don't do 00:41:01.447 --> 00:41:03.168 that so i i just want the book 00:41:03.188 --> 00:41:04.309 if i'm interested in the book i'm with 00:41:04.329 --> 00:41:07.670 the book that's it yeah so yeah i 00:41:07.690 --> 00:41:09.469 i took my my fingers into a little 00:41:09.710 --> 00:41:11.030 a little bit of everything when it comes 00:41:11.050 --> 00:41:13.811 to that it really it depends on how 00:41:13.891 --> 00:41:15.751 hard it jumps out at me when i 00:41:15.791 --> 00:41:17.972 get to the page and that's why it's 00:41:17.992 --> 00:41:20.914 so important for creators to create the 00:41:20.954 --> 00:41:23.454 best landing page they possibly can 00:41:23.474 --> 00:41:25.496 because that is a makeup for a lot 00:41:25.536 --> 00:41:26.295 of campaigns 00:41:27.483 --> 00:41:28.543 That's right. 00:41:28.563 --> 00:41:30.583 Don't make your campaign page messy is 00:41:30.623 --> 00:41:32.864 what we're saying. 00:41:32.923 --> 00:41:34.885 Collective ideas that flow. 00:41:36.144 --> 00:41:37.764 Otherwise, you're losing people. 00:41:37.784 --> 00:41:39.206 That's right. 00:41:39.465 --> 00:41:39.746 Now, 00:41:39.905 --> 00:41:43.047 what's one indie comic you think everyone 00:41:43.286 --> 00:41:47.867 should read? 00:41:47.927 --> 00:41:49.748 I'm going to go back to our friend, 00:41:49.887 --> 00:41:51.628 Malcolm McFadden. 00:41:52.188 --> 00:41:52.748 Recently, 00:41:53.829 --> 00:41:56.429 I read his comic book called Evora Lynn. 00:41:59.554 --> 00:42:01.534 I would say that is probably one of 00:42:01.554 --> 00:42:04.456 the best indie comic books I've read in 00:42:04.476 --> 00:42:05.097 a long time. 00:42:05.557 --> 00:42:09.719 That's on the line of comic books like 00:42:09.780 --> 00:42:13.563 Crescent City Monsters and Ray and 00:42:13.603 --> 00:42:14.724 Common's Reiner. 00:42:15.543 --> 00:42:19.067 I'm talking about it is a perfectly 00:42:19.706 --> 00:42:21.648 executed comic book. 00:42:21.748 --> 00:42:23.750 Shout out to Malcolm for that. 00:42:24.530 --> 00:42:26.032 Malcolm getting a lot of love tonight. 00:42:26.052 --> 00:42:26.512 I like it. 00:42:27.702 --> 00:42:29.101 So what is your, 00:42:29.121 --> 00:42:31.242 we're already talking about this 00:42:31.282 --> 00:42:31.922 crossover, 00:42:32.483 --> 00:42:34.242 but outside of the current crossover you 00:42:34.262 --> 00:42:35.963 have going on right now, 00:42:37.103 --> 00:42:39.884 what is your dream crossover that you want 00:42:39.905 --> 00:42:43.144 to do? 00:42:43.525 --> 00:42:45.766 Um, you know, 00:42:45.826 --> 00:42:47.206 I want to get to that DC model. 00:42:49.346 --> 00:42:50.726 I want to get to that DC model, 00:42:50.746 --> 00:42:50.827 man. 00:42:50.947 --> 00:42:52.106 I want, I want to do something. 00:42:52.367 --> 00:42:55.088 I want to do something between, uh, 00:42:55.208 --> 00:42:57.047 my dream crossover would be, uh, 00:42:57.762 --> 00:43:02.742 Justice League America and the Age of 00:43:02.782 --> 00:43:04.884 Apocalypse. 00:43:04.903 --> 00:43:09.864 X-Men Age of Apocalypse. 00:43:10.105 --> 00:43:13.065 If I had a major dream project to 00:43:13.105 --> 00:43:14.385 write or be a part of, 00:43:15.206 --> 00:43:16.606 it would be taking the Justice League 00:43:16.626 --> 00:43:20.567 America into the Age of Apocalypse X-Men 00:43:20.586 --> 00:43:24.047 world and seeing who survives and how they 00:43:24.088 --> 00:43:24.288 move. 00:43:25.724 --> 00:43:26.606 I like that, actually. 00:43:26.985 --> 00:43:29.186 I'm more of a Justice League Dark myself. 00:43:30.507 --> 00:43:32.608 I just like those darker DC characters. 00:43:33.407 --> 00:43:35.208 So that would have been my go-to for 00:43:35.248 --> 00:43:36.009 something like that. 00:43:36.509 --> 00:43:36.809 But no, 00:43:36.989 --> 00:43:38.429 Justice League of America ain't that bad 00:43:38.469 --> 00:43:39.951 either. 00:43:39.971 --> 00:43:40.530 But, uh... 00:43:41.507 --> 00:43:41.768 Alfred, 00:43:41.807 --> 00:43:45.028 it's that time where you can share and 00:43:45.088 --> 00:43:47.630 plug all the promo you want. 00:43:48.070 --> 00:43:49.771 Tell everybody where they can find you. 00:43:50.811 --> 00:43:51.931 Tell everybody when the Kickstarter is 00:43:51.951 --> 00:43:52.692 going to launch. 00:43:53.132 --> 00:43:57.532 Just plug yourself and what you do. 00:43:57.893 --> 00:43:58.612 Yeah, OK. 00:43:58.713 --> 00:44:00.753 So we got the first one I want 00:44:00.773 --> 00:44:01.273 to mention. 00:44:01.693 --> 00:44:02.994 We're still taking late pledges. 00:44:03.094 --> 00:44:05.235 It's Footpath Dangerous Nights. 00:44:05.335 --> 00:44:07.016 We are still taking late pledges till the 00:44:07.115 --> 00:44:07.876 end of February. 00:44:09.016 --> 00:44:09.936 At the end of February, 00:44:10.693 --> 00:44:12.474 We want to move on to completing the 00:44:12.494 --> 00:44:14.016 comic book and sending out the digitals. 00:44:14.576 --> 00:44:16.657 Now, where is that located under? 00:44:17.038 --> 00:44:18.179 So if they need to go to Kickstarter, 00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:19.699 is it under your name or Page One 00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:20.079 Comics? 00:44:20.099 --> 00:44:22.380 What's that under? 00:44:22.481 --> 00:44:24.402 Footpath Dangerous Nights is under an 00:44:24.543 --> 00:44:26.023 incredible writer by the name of Jonathan 00:44:26.063 --> 00:44:26.463 Hendrick. 00:44:27.304 --> 00:44:31.047 He had a hit comic book called We 00:44:31.067 --> 00:44:32.067 Count not too long ago. 00:44:32.887 --> 00:44:33.788 So, yeah, 00:44:33.807 --> 00:44:36.010 it's underneath Jonathan Hendrick under 00:44:36.050 --> 00:44:36.869 Hendrick Comics. 00:44:37.070 --> 00:44:38.251 He's my partner in that one, 00:44:38.510 --> 00:44:39.751 writing partner in that one as well. 00:44:40.697 --> 00:44:42.777 And, yeah, look for that, Footpath, 00:44:42.797 --> 00:44:43.679 Dangerous Nights. 00:44:44.518 --> 00:44:46.139 We're still taking late pledges on that 00:44:46.498 --> 00:44:47.958 right now until the end of February. 00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:49.480 Again, 00:44:49.500 --> 00:44:51.139 you could notify yourself on the 00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:53.240 pre-launch page for Footpath, Gun Golf, 00:44:54.101 --> 00:44:55.081 Hostile Assets. 00:44:55.121 --> 00:44:57.001 We'll shoot off in April. 00:44:58.681 --> 00:45:00.282 And I got to tell you, I mean, 00:45:00.521 --> 00:45:01.581 I know you've seen some of the pages, 00:45:01.601 --> 00:45:02.422 some of the covers, 00:45:03.101 --> 00:45:04.342 but the artist Edson Isles, 00:45:04.362 --> 00:45:05.563 the pages he got coming up, 00:45:07.545 --> 00:45:09.027 I mean, that's phenomenal. 00:45:09.186 --> 00:45:09.527 I mean, 00:45:09.748 --> 00:45:11.909 Edson Isles is truly one of the best 00:45:12.048 --> 00:45:13.630 artists today in indie comic books. 00:45:13.690 --> 00:45:16.192 And I'm so gifted to be working with 00:45:16.231 --> 00:45:16.311 him. 00:45:18.994 --> 00:45:20.996 We got another crossover, The Bear. 00:45:21.135 --> 00:45:22.556 That's going to be coming up very soon 00:45:22.737 --> 00:45:23.577 with, again, 00:45:23.617 --> 00:45:25.878 Malcolm and Subject Zero and Pinpoint as 00:45:25.898 --> 00:45:28.420 they get back together and get into some 00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:29.041 more trouble. 00:45:29.342 --> 00:45:30.021 So look for that. 00:45:31.322 --> 00:45:34.606 We have a hundred page crossover coming 00:45:34.646 --> 00:45:36.567 this summer called Earthfall. 00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:38.661 Okay. 00:45:39.181 --> 00:45:41.161 And that's with a lot of people in 00:45:41.181 --> 00:45:41.641 the industry. 00:45:41.702 --> 00:45:44.643 Dan Sin, Nigel Flood, Peter Brewer, 00:45:46.643 --> 00:45:47.585 a lot of people, C.T. 00:45:47.625 --> 00:45:51.047 Parker, Spex Thompson, Roscoe Glutton. 00:45:51.507 --> 00:45:53.248 I mean, that's a list. 00:45:53.487 --> 00:45:54.068 Jesse Hansen, 00:45:54.108 --> 00:45:56.869 a list of different creators. 00:45:57.170 --> 00:45:59.190 And we all just got together and we 00:45:59.231 --> 00:46:01.711 did this hundred page crossover called 00:46:01.771 --> 00:46:02.211 Earthfall. 00:46:03.192 --> 00:46:04.572 Mega crossover. 00:46:04.592 --> 00:46:06.614 So, a hundred pages plus. 00:46:06.653 --> 00:46:08.074 So, it might be like one twenty, 00:46:08.534 --> 00:46:10.396 one thirty, something around that area. 00:46:10.456 --> 00:46:12.097 That's graphic novel territory right 00:46:12.117 --> 00:46:12.336 there. 00:46:13.557 --> 00:46:13.958 It is. 00:46:14.197 --> 00:46:15.099 And I gotta tell you, 00:46:15.139 --> 00:46:17.139 the artwork coming back from that is 00:46:17.820 --> 00:46:18.981 incredible. 00:46:19.601 --> 00:46:21.501 And some of the best artwork I have 00:46:21.541 --> 00:46:22.322 seen in comic books. 00:46:22.822 --> 00:46:23.182 So, 00:46:23.583 --> 00:46:25.583 look out for that later on this year. 00:46:26.003 --> 00:46:28.425 That's going to be under Argo Comics. 00:46:28.505 --> 00:46:30.646 I believe Dancing is going to be running 00:46:30.666 --> 00:46:31.106 that one. 00:46:31.126 --> 00:46:32.507 So, follow Dancing. 00:46:33.277 --> 00:46:35.038 for information about that in a couple of 00:46:35.077 --> 00:46:37.119 months as they start the preparation for 00:46:37.139 --> 00:46:37.360 that. 00:46:39.802 --> 00:46:40.461 We're just having fun. 00:46:40.481 --> 00:46:42.302 It's going to be a fun year. 00:46:42.943 --> 00:46:43.224 Dude, 00:46:43.704 --> 00:46:45.264 it sounds like you're having a lot of 00:46:45.304 --> 00:46:46.045 fun this year, 00:46:46.085 --> 00:46:48.047 making some incredible bullets and some 00:46:48.106 --> 00:46:49.668 incredible crossovers. 00:46:51.108 --> 00:46:52.650 Anything else you want to share with the 00:46:52.690 --> 00:46:56.992 Council of Nerds before we close this out? 00:46:57.012 --> 00:46:59.315 Look for some new titles coming out from 00:46:59.534 --> 00:47:00.675 brand new creators. 00:47:01.382 --> 00:47:02.643 First-time creators, D. 00:47:02.664 --> 00:47:04.965 Mario Hill has a comic book coming out 00:47:04.985 --> 00:47:05.784 called Osmo. 00:47:06.646 --> 00:47:08.306 JC and Marzia got a comic book coming 00:47:08.347 --> 00:47:09.106 out called Scorp. 00:47:10.327 --> 00:47:11.788 I'm working on a new comic book now 00:47:11.887 --> 00:47:14.630 with artist Felipe called Beauty Mark. 00:47:15.030 --> 00:47:16.231 So just look out for all the new 00:47:16.271 --> 00:47:18.351 titles and new things coming out 00:47:18.672 --> 00:47:25.474 throughout the year. 00:47:25.534 --> 00:47:25.996 You mean, sorry, 00:47:26.016 --> 00:47:27.096 I was trying to click something. 00:47:28.456 --> 00:47:28.677 Okay. 00:47:30.108 --> 00:47:31.688 No, that was my fault. 00:47:31.768 --> 00:47:33.070 I clicked and it opened up the wrong 00:47:33.090 --> 00:47:33.369 thing. 00:47:33.409 --> 00:47:34.371 So that's on me. 00:47:34.891 --> 00:47:36.492 But Alfred, first of all, 00:47:36.751 --> 00:47:38.072 thank you for coming on the podcast 00:47:38.092 --> 00:47:38.452 tonight, 00:47:39.092 --> 00:47:41.635 sharing this incredible title with us, 00:47:42.094 --> 00:47:44.076 sharing how you do what you do. 00:47:44.876 --> 00:47:48.257 And what a great opportunity you have 00:47:48.338 --> 00:47:49.898 right now working with some of your, 00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:52.900 not just yours, but mine as well, 00:47:52.981 --> 00:47:54.942 like favorite people from the nineties. 00:47:55.041 --> 00:47:56.503 That's right. 00:47:58.777 --> 00:47:59.958 Soak it all in, man. 00:47:59.998 --> 00:48:01.119 Just soak it all in. 00:48:01.139 --> 00:48:02.782 That's huge, dude. 00:48:02.882 --> 00:48:05.103 And I loved hearing about it tonight. 00:48:05.804 --> 00:48:08.327 But again, this has been fantastic. 00:48:08.748 --> 00:48:11.050 Hostile Assets isn't just another 00:48:11.449 --> 00:48:12.090 crossover. 00:48:12.170 --> 00:48:14.452 It's a collision of worlds, creators, 00:48:14.853 --> 00:48:17.516 and indie comic energy that shows exactly 00:48:17.556 --> 00:48:19.077 why the independent comic scene 00:48:19.929 --> 00:48:23.849 continues to thrive and will continue to 00:48:23.889 --> 00:48:26.690 thrive well into the future. 00:48:27.351 --> 00:48:28.251 If you love horror, 00:48:28.550 --> 00:48:29.710 if you love anti-heroes, 00:48:30.190 --> 00:48:31.391 gritty storytelling, 00:48:31.431 --> 00:48:32.791 creator-owned stories, 00:48:33.291 --> 00:48:36.032 this is going to definitely be one to 00:48:36.132 --> 00:48:39.614 watch when it hits Kickstarter this April. 00:48:39.914 --> 00:48:41.233 Make sure you follow Alfred. 00:48:41.673 --> 00:48:42.753 Page one comments. 00:48:42.853 --> 00:48:44.934 Links are in the description to him. 00:48:46.260 --> 00:48:47.679 Make sure you sign up for the prelaunch 00:48:47.820 --> 00:48:50.641 and keep supporting indie creators who are 00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:52.641 building something real. 00:48:52.942 --> 00:48:54.021 And to everyone watching, 00:48:54.262 --> 00:48:55.481 support Indie Comics, 00:48:56.182 --> 00:48:59.163 support the creators, and keep reading. 00:48:59.844 --> 00:49:01.423 This has been the United States Department 00:49:01.443 --> 00:49:05.144 of Nerds, where Indie Comics come to life. 00:49:06.364 --> 00:49:07.385 Y'all be safe out there. 00:49:08.525 --> 00:49:08.885 Yes, sir.