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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, good morning, good morning, what we talk through? Good morning?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, good morning? You and you and you man. This

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<v Speaker 3>is a double feature this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, twice twice in a one.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness. I don't know if we can contain

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<v Speaker 3>all of just the overwhelming joy of the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure people out there are so joyful.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, you know, if we can have what made Chris

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<v Speaker 3>mad this week, this is like the best week ever.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the best week ever. You always act like people

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<v Speaker 2>just love it.

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<v Speaker 4>They do love it. We get a lot of comments

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<v Speaker 4>on it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>People comment about all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>They love they love it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well you know, you know you sing that to people

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<v Speaker 3>in the morning and then they walk around singing it all day.

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<v Speaker 4>Good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And somebody just told me that on Sunday yep, so,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really funny.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, I want you to take this

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<v Speaker 2>moment too.

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<v Speaker 1>If you care about that segment or that little tidbit

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<v Speaker 1>that I just did, then I want to take this

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<v Speaker 1>moment to say, watch Singing in the Rain.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, watch it. You've never seen it.

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<v Speaker 4>I have seen Singing in the Rain.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you have seen Yeah, yeah, Okay, I just don't

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<v Speaker 3>know all the songs, right it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you say it, you say it like I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a music guy. Music guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so didn't you tell us last week that you

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<v Speaker 3>listened to movies or you watch movies in the shower.

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<v Speaker 3>You just watch movies all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched today.

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<v Speaker 1>I was taking a shower and I put my phone

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<v Speaker 1>up on the little ledge there in the shower, and

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<v Speaker 1>I only had you know, it's like a ten minute shower.

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<v Speaker 1>But I said, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna watch this

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<v Speaker 1>one scene. So I put on the ending of a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>Endgame. Remember when remember when Captain America?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, you know, it was like this and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden it goes cap on your left, and then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden the doctor Strange gets the army

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<v Speaker 1>and then they do that final battle. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just move to see that. So I watched

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<v Speaker 1>that ten minute segment. Okay, well it's showering.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the difference between like you being this

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<v Speaker 3>committed movie guy in me occasionally watching movies. Right, So

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<v Speaker 3>you watch it for entertainment, it informs you in your

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<v Speaker 3>life and a those things. I watch it for amusement

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<v Speaker 3>and amusement amuse no thought, Well, I literally watch a

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<v Speaker 3>movie tomorrow. I may or may not remember the plot.

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<v Speaker 3>But man, it was a good movie. Somebody said, you

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<v Speaker 3>say movie, Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, and I think it's I saw, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>the core before we get into that, the core of

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<v Speaker 1>any movie, any great movie, is storytelling, right, and so

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<v Speaker 1>telling a story.

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<v Speaker 3>Is and blowing stuff up. Blowing stuff up is a

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<v Speaker 3>big stuff a big part of it too.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah for most of the movie you watch, yes, but

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<v Speaker 5>story for any great movie is and that's what life is.

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<v Speaker 5>Life is storytelling, living stories, identifying with stories. Because because movies,

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<v Speaker 5>at the core of great movies is all about story.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, maybe that's why we loved the Bible. Guys, the

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<v Speaker 3>way we do it the way we do the Bible,

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<v Speaker 3>guys say, maybe that's why we do it that way.

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<v Speaker 4>It's because we love the story of the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so very quickly, tell us did you like Wicked? Really?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought visually it was really impressive. Yeah, I thought

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<v Speaker 3>musically it was less than the original. So I saw

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<v Speaker 3>Wicked twice with the two originals. Sure, sure, phenomenal was

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<v Speaker 3>good and I felt like, particularly that who played Glinda,

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like she was hitting her marks, not acting.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh like, I did not think she was funny in it.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like Christian Chenowith in her little segment was

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<v Speaker 3>twice as funny as Ariana ever was in the whole movie.

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<v Speaker 3>So I loved the callback to that piece. And then

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<v Speaker 3>the deviations from the original were significant. You said that

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't significant. I thought they were significant enough. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so it was good. It was good.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't think it was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm going to have to significantly disagree.

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<v Speaker 4>That's okay. It visually it was stunning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, So so did you did you feel like?

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<v Speaker 3>I felt very mechanical. Ariana Grande specifically felt very mechanical.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the lady that played Alpha Ba just doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have Adina's voice, so musically the live was back with

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<v Speaker 3>the originals. Was they should have made the movie with them?

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<v Speaker 4>Huh? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And then the chemistry between Christian, Kristin and Edina were

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<v Speaker 3>was over the top versus the chemistry of those two

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<v Speaker 3>where they definitely were hitting their lines and saying their parts,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was right.

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<v Speaker 4>Did they did it correctly?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you get emotional?

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<v Speaker 4>No? Yeah, in tear upts okay, and I went, I

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<v Speaker 4>get it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very well done. Okay, but then the additions.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think any of the additions added to the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, that's no. Stop.

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<v Speaker 3>Every one of them was. It's not like I went, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>thank god, they finally got it right. I thought I

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<v Speaker 3>thought the original was better.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, all right, hey, okay, So so those those of

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<v Speaker 3>you that are out there that are are wicked haters, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't hate it. I just don't care about it.

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<v Speaker 4>The movie, I didn't care about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're you're with them, the wicked haters.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it was unnecessary. Wow, there you go. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you know what, Jeff, It's why we make a

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<v Speaker 2>good team. It's the But I was excited to watch

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<v Speaker 2>it because you love.

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<v Speaker 4>It so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I appreciate that. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was for you, Chris that I watched it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>Well we have and I and I'll be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to like it. Yeah, I wanted to. I

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<v Speaker 3>really did. Okay, So okay, right, Well, so we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to answer a question we've answered three times two times

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<v Speaker 3>in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we only have a couple of minutes. We've

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<v Speaker 1>wasted a lot of time there.

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<v Speaker 3>This next part has one big idea and that I think,

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<v Speaker 3>so we're gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay. So this is a stump the pastor question.

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<v Speaker 1>And this question comes from Ashley N and so, and

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<v Speaker 1>the question is simply this, do you think dogs go

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<v Speaker 1>to heaven?

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<v Speaker 4>What kind of dogs? Kind of dogs? Yeah, that's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So so first of all, I'll just give you the

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<v Speaker 1>short answer and you can give the long answers. The

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<v Speaker 1>short answer is nobody knows, right, That's usually how something

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<v Speaker 1>past their questions go anyway, right, But I personally think yes, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there are animals in heaven for sure. Just everything that

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<v Speaker 1>we know about heaven and God restoring things, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no reason not to believe that. Well, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>solidifying reason not to believe that dogs don't go to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna choose to believe. Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think the logical question would be, then do

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<v Speaker 3>you think all life goes into eternity like Mosquito's Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>how far down does that go?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it sentient beings?

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<v Speaker 3>And how do you know that mosquitoes aren't thinking, oh no,

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<v Speaker 3>what's that big hand right right before it smashes me

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever?

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 3>So there is that one argument that, wow, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of creatures on the planet and whatever. But the

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<v Speaker 3>other side of it is, and I think we've answered

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<v Speaker 3>it this beforey before, God is good and when the

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<v Speaker 3>Bible says that God created everything, he looked on the

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<v Speaker 3>planet he made with dogs on it and said.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I really like it. I like it just like that.

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<v Speaker 3>He liked it the way he made it, and then

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<v Speaker 3>we messed it up. So now he's gonna have to

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<v Speaker 3>make a new one. So he's going to make a

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<v Speaker 3>new one. There's kind of a restoration kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>concept in this new world that he's going to make

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of time. Right, it's a restoration more

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<v Speaker 3>than it is a I'm going to get rid of

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<v Speaker 3>the old idea and get a new idea. Right, It's

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm going to make it all new again. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to bring it back to what it was supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to be. So if that's the case, I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>very likely. The Bible mentions Isaiah, man, we we did

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<v Speaker 3>a fun thing. But we've answered this question before, and

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<v Speaker 3>we set all these answers. But then we did a

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<v Speaker 3>fun thing, and right before the program, I typed in

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<v Speaker 3>do dogs go to Heaven? And chat GPT and it

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<v Speaker 3>gave the same answer as you and I always give right,

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<v Speaker 3>But it mentions there in Isaiah that the animals. It

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<v Speaker 3>mentions that animals are in peace in the New in

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<v Speaker 3>the New Kingdom, right, and that kind of thing. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not unreasonable to say, man, I hope my pet

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<v Speaker 3>is there, whether it's that pet or pets in general,

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<v Speaker 3>or animals in general or whatever. Right, but we do

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<v Speaker 3>know that animals are in eternity, which is really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so yeah, very cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not against I'm not against you saying I think

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<v Speaker 3>my dog went to heaven. Yes, Now, if he was

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<v Speaker 3>a bad boy, I don't know. But if he's a

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<v Speaker 3>good boy, that's not how that's not how people get

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<v Speaker 3>to heaven, but it might be out to always get

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<v Speaker 3>to have it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so funny. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hey, thank you Ashley, for writing in and listen.

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<v Speaker 1>If anybody else wants to write in.

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<v Speaker 2>Please do.

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<v Speaker 1>But we actually love questions that come in, and we

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<v Speaker 1>would love to consider your question and comments. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>we love comments and feedback.

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<v Speaker 3>So actually I think our summary is we think it's

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<v Speaker 3>totally possible. Yeah, right, the animals go to heaven, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>or that we do know animals are in heaven, are

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<v Speaker 3>in eternity, so yeah, yeah, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I just want to say this, that segment needed

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of work. You know, there's a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And speaking of that, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what else needed a lot of work?

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<v Speaker 3>But the temple, Yes, you're right, especially after somebody took over.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so the temple had gotten in disrepair. Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they did a lot of work to redo it.

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<v Speaker 4>So Joe Ash takes over, Yes, repairs the temple.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 4>It was a terrible transition.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, Thank you, thank you. I volunteered to

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<v Speaker 4>Every transition this week.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I went back and restated our answer, hoping

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<v Speaker 3>that you go, oh we should.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot actually, and then finally I just remembered.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so we're in Second King's Chapter twelve, verse one,

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<v Speaker 3>He reigned in Jerusalem forty years. His mother was Zibia

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<v Speaker 3>from Beersheba. All his life, Joash did what was pleasing

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<v Speaker 3>Yet even so, he did not destroy the pagan shrines,

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<v Speaker 3>So he followed the lord, but he didn't make his

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<v Speaker 3>people do it. One day, King Joash said that the

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<v Speaker 3>priest collect all the money brought as a sacred offering

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<v Speaker 3>payment of vows, or a voluntary gift. Let the priest

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<v Speaker 3>take some of that money to pay for whatever repairs

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<v Speaker 3>are needed at the temple. But by the twenty third

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<v Speaker 3>year of joe Ash's reign, the priests still had not

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<v Speaker 3>repaired the temple.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that took a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's like me when I started a painting project,

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<v Speaker 3>right twenty three years later, twenty three years Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 3>King joe Ash called for Jehoida and the other priests

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<v Speaker 3>and asked them, why haven't you repaired the temple. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>use any more money for your own needs. From now on,

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<v Speaker 3>it must all be spent on temple repairs. So the

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<v Speaker 3>priests agreed not to accept any more money from the people,

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<v Speaker 3>pairing the temple. And Jehoyaa, the priest, bored a hole

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<v Speaker 3>entrance of the Temple of the Lord, and the priests

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<v Speaker 3>guarding the entrance put all of the people's contributions into

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<v Speaker 3>the chest. Whenever the chest became full, of the court

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<v Speaker 3>secretary and the high priests counted the money that had

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<v Speaker 3>been brought to the Lord's Temple and put it into bags.

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<v Speaker 3>Then they gave the money to the construction supervisors or

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<v Speaker 3>used it to pay the people working on the Lord's temple,

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<v Speaker 3>the carpenters, the builders, the masons, and the stonecutters. They

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<v Speaker 3>also used the money to buy the timber and the

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<v Speaker 3>finished stone needed for repairing the Lord's temple, and they

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<v Speaker 3>paid in any other expenses related to the temple's restoration.

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<v Speaker 3>The money brought to the temple was not used for

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<v Speaker 3>or other articles of gold or silver for the Temple

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<v Speaker 3>of the Lord. It was paid to the workmen who

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<v Speaker 3>used it for the temple repairs. No accounting of this

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<v Speaker 3>money was required from the construction supervisors because they were

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<v Speaker 3>honest and trustworthy men.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I don't know about that one.

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<v Speaker 3>However, the money that was contributed contributed for guilt offerings

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<v Speaker 3>and sent offerings, was not brought in the Lord's temple.

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<v Speaker 3>It was given to the priests for their own use.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, so there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would not say it's advisable to not expect

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<v Speaker 3>your construction management.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, foreman to not keep it attention. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, these were guys who were working on the temple.

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<v Speaker 1>And have you ever have you ever had a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of construction people do a building project and they all

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<v Speaker 1>come together and and like like like we build a

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<v Speaker 1>building in my previous church that I worked at, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and and everybody who was super excited who sort of

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<v Speaker 1>took the reins. They were in construction for business, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're Christians and dedicated.

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<v Speaker 2>To that church. And uh, and that felt great.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>That felt great.

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<v Speaker 1>So I can imagine that these were people who attended

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<v Speaker 1>the church or the temple, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and and and uh, and that they were all

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<v Speaker 2>in they just happened to do construction. Uh. You know

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<v Speaker 2>that reminds me of do you remember Jim Gaffigan?

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<v Speaker 4>You remember him? Yes? I remember?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember that? Remember that?

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<v Speaker 1>What you're talking like, Okay, what I meant to say

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<v Speaker 1>was do you remember the bit?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that he that he talked about gates

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<v Speaker 2>in heaven?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, why do you need gates in heaven?

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<v Speaker 2>He's He's like, they talk about the gates of heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes, why do you need gates? He goes. What

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, Yeah, we had to install some gates because

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<v Speaker 1>all the kids kept on sneaking in.

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<v Speaker 2>And use the pool, he goes. He goes, we had

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<v Speaker 2>to build the gates all the way around. He goes,

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<v Speaker 2>it was terrible. It was hard.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, we had to go all the way down

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<v Speaker 1>to Hell and find construction workers and everything.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's really funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So so it's like that that one joke is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like my son who's in construction would love that joke. Yes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, in this case here, these guys are honest

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<v Speaker 1>and trustworthy men, and to be honest with you, it

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<v Speaker 1>almost seems like in this passage, they're the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>are honest, and the and the the priest for the

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<v Speaker 1>ones who uh didn't didn't step up at the beginning. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not it didn't say they abused the money,

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<v Speaker 1>did it. It didn't say it's they used it for

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<v Speaker 1>their own needs. Right, So, so own needs doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>there's no indication.

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<v Speaker 2>That it was, you know, used in a terrible manner.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I would venture to say it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>really good assumption that it wasn't used in a bad manner,

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<v Speaker 1>because usually when that happens, the Bible will go out

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<v Speaker 1>of twitter say so right like it had it had

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<v Speaker 1>it been abused or squandered or stolen or miss misused,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible would say that she the pre squandered the money,

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<v Speaker 1>they used it for their own selfish needs, they used

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<v Speaker 1>it for sin.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't say any of that, right, It just says

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<v Speaker 2>they just used the money. It's almost like they got

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<v Speaker 2>a raise.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, Hey, we want to do this much ministry

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<v Speaker 1>and now we have more money coming in. And now

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing this much money.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you and I, so we lead that.

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<v Speaker 3>We lead a church has a it's a large church,

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<v Speaker 3>large budget. A lot of money comes in. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 3>give clear accounting, and I mean we're really careful with it.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know how it can be. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 3>how much money comes in. Our staff can find things

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<v Speaker 3>that their team needs. We're not saying they're wasting it,

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<v Speaker 3>but they can consume all the money comes in. So

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<v Speaker 3>on occasion, you know, you and I and the other

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<v Speaker 3>key leaders, we have to redirect and say, but there

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<v Speaker 3>are priorities, right, there are these. We make sure we

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<v Speaker 3>ten percent of the income that comes into heritage or

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<v Speaker 3>more goes outside of heritage.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not spent insight on us, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually eleven percent.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And the staff if we said hey, this extra you know,

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<v Speaker 3>hundreds of thousands of dollars is available to you, they

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<v Speaker 3>could use it and use it in.

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<v Speaker 4>A good way.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh they'll hire people, yeah, get offer more services, offer

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<v Speaker 3>more ministry things whatever. Right, And so what happened was

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was just a fade. It wasn't that

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<v Speaker 3>the Levites were bad guys or the priests were bad guys.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just they were consuming everything coming in on what

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<v Speaker 3>they viewed as necessary things. And finally, Joe ash I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know why he didn't attention when you're young. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>he just didn't notice it, or you're believing all the reasons. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we need to increase the budget by fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>percent in order for us to get this.

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<v Speaker 4>Project done or whatever. You know, he doesn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Finally he realizes, wait a minute. He's thirty years old

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<v Speaker 3>at this point. He goes, wait a minute, get it

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<v Speaker 3>done right, And I love that about him. Right twenty

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<v Speaker 3>three years in, he only has seventeen years left in

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<v Speaker 3>his rain. But he says, get it done, no more excuses,

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<v Speaker 3>and that there is a leader moment there that we

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<v Speaker 3>finally see. This is the first really big leadership moment

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<v Speaker 3>you see Joe ash in Is. He had said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I want the temple repaired, and that's cute. Little kid

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<v Speaker 3>wants temple repair. That's great, we'll work on it.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll get there.

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<v Speaker 3>We got budgets to balance, we got we got ministries

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<v Speaker 3>to run right out all these things. But find this kid.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But finally he's an adult and he's like, get

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<v Speaker 3>it done, and they buckled down and they did. And

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<v Speaker 3>then he had trustworthy men that are are doing you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the finished stone and all the wood and all that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of stuff. And apparently it was a very fair

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<v Speaker 3>rate that they're that they're charging to do these things.

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<v Speaker 3>It must have been you know, I don't know. The

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<v Speaker 3>Bible is not hinting that it was a discounted rate

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<v Speaker 3>hitting that at all. Right, there's no hint here that

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<v Speaker 3>there was an expectation that these guys would do it

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<v Speaker 3>for free. There's no expectation that they do it as

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<v Speaker 3>a discount. But it must have been very fair because

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<v Speaker 3>he's not even needing an accounting on it, right when

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<v Speaker 3>they say, well, these timbers here and we're fixing up

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<v Speaker 3>this this wall is going to cost ten thousand bucks

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<v Speaker 3>and they go, oh, yeah, that's a fair price. That's

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<v Speaker 3>a good price, right, And so I think that's the

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<v Speaker 3>hint that when you get that there's no real accounting necessary.

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<v Speaker 3>Was everybody everybody could see through the transparent pricing that's

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<v Speaker 3>going on. That's a fair price. Yeah, go ahead and

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<v Speaker 3>get it done if you can do it for that,

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead and do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And if this is typical you think about like we know,

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<v Speaker 1>we know if you're a bibble guy or gal, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm referring to the audience here right there, the listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>all of us, and if we've been sort of hanging

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<v Speaker 1>the temple is?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean how big is it?

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty big, right, I mean it's one of the

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't that?

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<v Speaker 2>It was one of the most majestic things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, sitting on top of the mount, that whole, that

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<v Speaker 3>whole complex was. The temple itself was a good sized building,

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<v Speaker 3>but it wasn't like the penticle.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not referring to the whole.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I take it to be the building itself

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<v Speaker 3>because it's talking about what goes in it, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>it didn't. It didn't include the bowls, and it didn't

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<v Speaker 3>include the lamp snuffers and the right talking about the furniture, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Met the holy holies area, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you're talking about the holy place, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>hoes the courtyard probably, ok Yeah, So the temple mount

433
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<v Speaker 3>is big, but that space probably was just that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well either way though, there's it's extravagant, right, it's

436
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<v Speaker 1>it's it's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of the most you know, wealthiest.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, well David built it, when Salomon built it,

439
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<v Speaker 3>it was a billion billions and billions, hundreds of millions

440
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<v Speaker 3>billion dollars, so it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And so so anyway, the point is is that my

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<v Speaker 1>whole point of that is to say this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it took time. So when they say no accounting was

444
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<v Speaker 1>needed because these were honest construction workers, you're probably talking

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<v Speaker 1>about years and you're probably talking about uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they were in such a rhythm and routine that it

447
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<v Speaker 1>was just like clockwork. It's like, hey, I mean there's trust,

448
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<v Speaker 1>there's uh, there's honesty, there's integrity. Uh, there's fairness, there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's you know, they're they're paying good wages and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and it sort of, you know, it sort of just

451
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<v Speaker 1>ran itself because everything really went well with this entire restoration,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pretty great. I mean, you think about that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a pretty great statement in the Bible,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I also think that there's there's some value. I

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<v Speaker 4>think you're right on that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's some value in understanding. We've done a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of construction projects at our church as things grew

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<v Speaker 3>and whatever. And I always tell the businessmen, I am

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<v Speaker 3>not asking you to put your families in jeopardy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm asking you to be fair, that's all.

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<v Speaker 3>Just just be fair, because I think businessmen should make money, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and they should do that they have.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you look at the priests, the priests were

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<v Speaker 3>given the responsibility to repair the building and took twenty

466
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<v Speaker 3>three years and they never got to it. The priests

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<v Speaker 3>did what they do, but they never got to the construction.

468
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<v Speaker 3>And so there's something to be said about having experts

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<v Speaker 3>that you rely on, that you lean into. So you

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<v Speaker 3>need good godly men and women around you that are

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<v Speaker 3>experts at what they do.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I was just talking.

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<v Speaker 3>To a young guy that's you know, getting ministries or

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<v Speaker 3>getting a business started, and so I was saying to him, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Need a good godly lawyer.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have lawyer?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't have any legal issues yet, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>not now, but lawyers can help you set up a

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<v Speaker 3>business where you can prect yourself, protect your family, do

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<v Speaker 3>other things.

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<v Speaker 4>You need a good godly lawyer.

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<v Speaker 3>You invest in a good because you don't know law,

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<v Speaker 3>you know your business right, and then you need a

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<v Speaker 3>good accountant that you can rely on as CPA. But

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<v Speaker 3>you also need a good financial advisor who can help

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<v Speaker 3>you with strategic ideas. So you need this little team

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<v Speaker 3>of godly men or women that can help you, advise

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<v Speaker 3>you on the business side, advise you on the legal side,

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<v Speaker 3>and buys you on the tax side right those four years.

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<v Speaker 3>And you shouldn't have to be an expert at those things.

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<v Speaker 3>But what happens a lot of times if we have

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<v Speaker 3>any pastors listening to day, pastors sometimes will ask how

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<v Speaker 3>do you make the leap from being a regular sized church,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to a giant church? And one of those

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<v Speaker 3>is you stop trying to do everything and be everything.

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<v Speaker 3>I can remember when I was working in a small church.

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<v Speaker 3>We had to balance the budgets, and we had to

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<v Speaker 3>plan the weekend services, and we had to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>the kids thing was great and the adults thing was great,

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<v Speaker 3>and we had to literally I remember watching my senior

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<v Speaker 3>pastor mo the lawn one time. Yeah, I went out

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<v Speaker 3>and got it, stopped him and I went and mow

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<v Speaker 3>the lawn because he was my senior pastor. I said, now,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm all the lawn. You know, I was busy that day,

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<v Speaker 3>but man, I'm gonna let my senior pastor go out

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<v Speaker 3>there mo the lawn. We need him doing senior pastor stuff, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I literally I cleaned the toilets every week in the

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<v Speaker 3>whole building, right. And I remember thinking at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not below cleaning toilets.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll clean toilets, right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good work because it's necessary, so somebody needs

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<v Speaker 3>to do it. I'll do it if nobody else will

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<v Speaker 3>do it. But I remember thinking it would be better

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<v Speaker 3>if we've built teams to do those things. People who

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<v Speaker 3>are really really good I'm not great at cleaning, you

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<v Speaker 3>ask my wife. But people who are really good at

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<v Speaker 3>it that love to do it. There are people who

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<v Speaker 3>love it. They just love to make everything sparkle. And

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<v Speaker 3>they love that first impression thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>And not that anybody's like, ooh, sign me up to

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<v Speaker 3>clean the toilets, but there are people who love that

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<v Speaker 3>first impression thing. And this is what I think the

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<v Speaker 3>wisdom of Joe ash And is in his thirties now

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<v Speaker 3>instead of in his childhood. In his thirties, he's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>let's let the priests do what the priests are supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to be doing, right, lead the people in worship, do

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<v Speaker 3>the sacrifices, declare God's word, and we're going to need

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<v Speaker 3>some experts to go do these other things. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>not right, I think for pastors to expect. Now we've

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<v Speaker 3>had people come in and voluntarily donate. Thank thank God

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<v Speaker 3>for it sometimes thank God, but man alive. If work

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<v Speaker 3>needs to be done, pay a fair wage charge r

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<v Speaker 3>fair wage. If you're in business, Christians, be willing to

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<v Speaker 3>pay a fair wage, and trust me, things will be better.

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<v Speaker 4>It'll get done quicker.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, it'll be probably done better than you're doing it,

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<v Speaker 3>and both you and the businessman benefit.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is what I think you see happening here

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<v Speaker 3>is Joe ash finally realizes, let's Joheida, you're good at

542
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<v Speaker 3>some things. You're apparently not very good at project management.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's pay these guys over here. And they're good,

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<v Speaker 3>gudly people that you could trust. And there's something about

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you don't have to do everything. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to be great at everything. I think men in

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<v Speaker 3>particular sometimes feel driven. I should be really good at

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<v Speaker 3>all the things in life. Yeah, And I don't think

549
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<v Speaker 3>you have to be good at everything. You need to

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<v Speaker 3>know well you're Italian. You just need to know a guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right right, Every Italian I know knows a guy.

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<v Speaker 4>As a matter of fact, Remember.

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<v Speaker 3>I asked you the other was a couple weeks ago

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<v Speaker 3>about home Paragrad, and I was like, I just don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>like a pro like I know some big construction guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, like a home remodel guy. And I

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<v Speaker 3>said you have. Yeah, I got a couple, but I

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<v Speaker 3>got this one guy, right, I said, I know a guy. Man,

559
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<v Speaker 3>there's something to that. To be that guy, be the

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<v Speaker 3>guy who knows a guy, and you can get a

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<v Speaker 3>lot done if you know a guy. That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, that's a good word.

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<v Speaker 1>And so hey, that's our time, and so hopefully we

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<v Speaker 1>will see you next time on the Bible guys. H