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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everybody, Happa, Happy single.

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<v Speaker 3>Day, Pepa, Pepa, Peppa.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Happa. Cinco de Maya.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, what if I told you Cinco de Mayo helps

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<v Speaker 3>save the United States from falling apart?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 3>What I know?

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<v Speaker 2>That's not true? Yeah, it is true, Sinkle Demayo.

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<v Speaker 3>It is true.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is a Mexican rooted Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So, so I typed into I typed into chat

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<v Speaker 3>GPT tell some amazing facts about Cinco de Mayo. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>this is our segment that our podcast listeners probably don't

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<v Speaker 3>know about. Okay, okay, yep, and here's what it gave me. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>so then, I you know, you can't trust everything, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I tells you. So I had to look it up

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<v Speaker 3>make sure it's true. But here, Sinkle Demayo, isn't Mexico's

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<v Speaker 3>Independence day? Okay did you know that?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh No, I'm not even sure I knew what Sincle

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<v Speaker 1>Demayo is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's taco, that's what it is. Yeah. Yeah, So and.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Miller's birthday okay, oh really yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, my fifth, So single Demayo actually commemorates the

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<v Speaker 3>Battle of Puebla in eighteen sixty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Case you were wondering, Oh, wow, yeah, oh that battle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, the Battle of Puebla.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>So the independence day for Mexico lands on September sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 3>so that's different. But here you go. The battle was

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<v Speaker 3>against Napoleon the Third, not Napoleon Bonaparte.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh for that, No, I did not know.

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<v Speaker 3>So whenever people hear that the battle was, it was

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<v Speaker 3>with Napoleon, it's not the same Napoleon, the short little

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<v Speaker 3>guy with the hand in the stry.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>The Mexican victory had global ripples. Here's what it says.

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<v Speaker 3>Historians believe that if Mexico hadn't won the Battle of Puebla,

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<v Speaker 3>France might have supported the Confederacy in the US Civil War.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was France against Mexico. Oh, had won that war,

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<v Speaker 3>that battle against Mexico, they probably would have defeated Mexico

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<v Speaker 3>and then supported the South in the Civil War. That

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<v Speaker 3>was the plan. Wow, right, So that Mexican victory may

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<v Speaker 3>have helped keep France from interfering and even influence the

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<v Speaker 3>eventual preservation of the Union. Isn't it amazing?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And then also Sinko to Myo is a way

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<v Speaker 3>bigger deal in the US than it is in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's more of a Mexican American culture, pride, heritage

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<v Speaker 3>kind of day here, But in Mexico it's not that

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<v Speaker 3>big of a day. It's like a minor holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like President's Day for US where people are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's today something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, Oh we get the day off yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>yeah yeah yeah. So it says at the Battle of Puebla,

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<v Speaker 3>the Mexican army had about two thousand poorly equipped soldiers

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<v Speaker 3>while the French had over six thousand well armed troops. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>and yet Mexico won. There you go, isn't that great?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what that don't under estimate those Mexicans.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. Only at the Battle of the Alum right,

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<v Speaker 3>So then we had one hundred something and we lost,

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<v Speaker 3>but we held him off for a long time. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>have you been to the Alamo?

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<v Speaker 2>I have never been.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No, so I've been there many times. We used

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<v Speaker 3>to live in Texas. I've been there several times. We

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<v Speaker 3>took a tour one time and this guide takes us

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<v Speaker 3>all over the grounds and explains the battle. And right

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<v Speaker 3>here they believe this is where so Davy Crockett went

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<v Speaker 3>down there. He was a senator and he left Tennessee

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<v Speaker 3>went down to help fight because he heard about the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes down there. He was standing out in front

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<v Speaker 3>of the doors, and according to legend, he ran out

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<v Speaker 3>of bullets and he flipped his gun around and used

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<v Speaker 3>it as a club and just stood there and just

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<v Speaker 3>kept fighting as they were coming over the walls, right

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<v Speaker 3>and really really crazy. Anyways, this guide takes us all through,

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<v Speaker 3>he tells us all the stories. He gets us inside

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<v Speaker 3>and then everything quite down. It was early in the

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<v Speaker 3>morning and so there wasn't able to us in there.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said, I just want you to listen to

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<v Speaker 3>this holy Texas place. Just silent, you know, And he said,

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<v Speaker 3>and contemplate the sacrifice of brave men and women who

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<v Speaker 3>are willing to fight for freedom. So you just stand

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<v Speaker 3>as quiet, and then you start hearing people sniffle, people crying.

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<v Speaker 3>It was really an amazing wow, amazing woman. Yeah, so hey,

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<v Speaker 3>the bravery of a few fighting against the the tyranny

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<v Speaker 3>of the many. That that's the stories here both between

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<v Speaker 3>sink of to MYO and then my little story with

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<v Speaker 3>that Lama.

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<v Speaker 2>So, hey, what a segment today?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>And it all started with happy Happa sink of the Maya.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and go get some tacos.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, hey, welcome to the Bible guys. That was

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<v Speaker 1>our segment. Actually, so Desiree said, look up on chat

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<v Speaker 1>GPT and talk about some interesting facts about Sinkle to MYO.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that our people might not know well and all

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<v Speaker 3>of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, I wonder if I've ever once had a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with anybody on Sinkle to my about the meaning

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<v Speaker 1>of Sinkle to mile.

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<v Speaker 3>There you have you. Yes, Oh, my daughter's boyfriend's Mexican.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I see, and he goes, I don't know what's

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<v Speaker 3>Sinkle to my always. So we looked it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, he didn't even know.

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<v Speaker 3>He knew that it was some holiday the military thing,

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<v Speaker 3>but he didn't know it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's so funny. So that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, well hey it's Monday and we are kicking

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<v Speaker 1>things off right and we are going to transition.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we we bring the most important information to our listeners. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, we're trusted sources of information, Yes, speaking of

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<v Speaker 3>trusted sources of information.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>We're shifting. We're shifting to a new book, the Book

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<v Speaker 3>of Daniels.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're just by the way that transition works for anything, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we bring information speaking of information that trusted. I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to say, I was going to say, uh, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of a battle, a battle of a few against many. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Daniel and his friends against the forces of

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<v Speaker 1>nature of Babylon.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah, I was going to say that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, but yours is better. So we're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Start un because yours is worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeh, it was worse. Uh. If you are a new listener,

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<v Speaker 3>we keep having to remind people one of our goals

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<v Speaker 3>is to have like the worst transitions between the silly

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<v Speaker 3>thing at the beginning and then the yes, the devotional

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<v Speaker 3>part at the end. But we're kind of going through

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<v Speaker 3>the highlights of the Old Testament. We just finished up

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the Mike Isaiah, Yeah, Mike Isaiah, the

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<v Speaker 3>stories that Hazekaia and in chronicles and Kings, and now

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<v Speaker 3>we're moving into, uh, the story of Daniel. There's there's

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<v Speaker 3>some big stories in Jeremiah will cover Daniel here for

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<v Speaker 3>the next couple of days, we'll spend some time in

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<v Speaker 3>the store in the Book of Daniel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so as you remember, our listeners, if you've

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<v Speaker 1>been following along, Assyria has gone down and Babylon has risen,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nebu Keidnezzar is the ruler of Babylon.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what it's all going to tell us. In

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<v Speaker 3>the first couple of verses.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it explains that in the verses oh, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>context needed.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh, it's really good, it's cool. The only the only

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<v Speaker 3>context would be this is about six oh five b c.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep okay okay. It says, during the third year of

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<v Speaker 3>King Jehoia Kim's reign in Judah, King Nebu Keinezar of

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<v Speaker 3>Babylon came to Jerusalem and besieged it. The Lord gave

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<v Speaker 3>him victory over Jehoia Kim of Judah and permitted him

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<v Speaker 3>to take some of the sacred objects of the Temple

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<v Speaker 3>of God. So Nebu Keinnezer took them back to the

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<v Speaker 3>land of Babylonia and placed them in the treasure house

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<v Speaker 3>of his God. Then the king ordered Ashpanaz, his chief

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<v Speaker 3>of staff, to bring to the palace some of the

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<v Speaker 3>young men of Judah's royal family and other noble families

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<v Speaker 3>who have been brought to Babylon as captives. Select only strong, healthy,

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<v Speaker 3>and good looking young men, he said, make sure they

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<v Speaker 3>are well versed in every branch of learning, are gifted

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<v Speaker 3>in the royal palace. Train these young men in the

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<v Speaker 3>language and literature of Babylon. The king assigned them a

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<v Speaker 3>daily ration of food and wine from his own kitchens.

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<v Speaker 3>They were to be trained for three years and when

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<v Speaker 3>they would and then they would enter the royal service. Daniel, Hannanaiah, Michel,

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<v Speaker 3>and Azariah were for the young men, chosen all from

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<v Speaker 3>the tribe of Judah. The chief of staff renamed them

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<v Speaker 3>with these Babylonian names. Daniel was called the Belta, shazar

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<v Speaker 3>Azariah was called a bed nigo, a bed nigo.

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<v Speaker 2>Although everybody wants to say the bendigo.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and that's what I just started to say, yes, yes, right,

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<v Speaker 3>a bed nigo. But Daniel was determined not to defile

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<v Speaker 3>himself by eating the food and wine given to them

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<v Speaker 3>by the King. He asked the chief of staff for

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<v Speaker 3>permission not to eat these unacceptable foods. Now, God had

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<v Speaker 3>given the chief of staff both respect and affection for Daniel,

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<v Speaker 3>but he responded, I'm afraid of my lord, the King,

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<v Speaker 3>who has ordered that you eat this food and wine.

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<v Speaker 3>If you become pale and thin compared to the other

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<v Speaker 3>use your age, I'm afraid the king will have me beheaded.

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel spoke with the attendant who had been appointed by

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<v Speaker 3>the chief of staff to look over Daniel, Hann and I, A,

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<v Speaker 3>Michelle and Azariah. Please test us for ten days on

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<v Speaker 3>a diet of vegetables on water, Daniel said, and at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the ten days, see how we look

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<v Speaker 3>compared to the other young men who are eating the

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<v Speaker 3>king's food, and then you make your decision in light

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<v Speaker 3>of what you see. The attendant agreed to Daniel's suggestion

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<v Speaker 3>and tested them for ten days. At the end of

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<v Speaker 3>ten days, Daniel and his three friends looked healthier and

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<v Speaker 3>better nourished than the young men who'd been eating the

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<v Speaker 3>food assigned by the king. So after that the tenant

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<v Speaker 3>fed them only vegetables instead of the food and wine

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<v Speaker 3>provided for the others. God gave these four young men

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<v Speaker 3>an unusual aptitude for understanding every aspect of literature and wisdom,

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<v Speaker 3>and God gave Daniel the special ability to interpret the

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<v Speaker 3>meanings of visions and dreams. When the training period ordered

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<v Speaker 3>by the king was completed, the chief of staff brought

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<v Speaker 3>all the young men to King Nebukinezer. The King talked

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<v Speaker 3>with them, and no one impressed him as much as Daniel,

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<v Speaker 3>Hanna and i A, Michelle, and Azariah. So they entered

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<v Speaker 3>the royal service. Whenever the King consulted them in any

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<v Speaker 3>manner requiring wisdom and balanced judgment, he found them ten

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<v Speaker 3>in his entire kingdom. And Daniel remained in the royal

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<v Speaker 3>service until the first year of King Cyrus. Wow, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Go, there you go. And I love Daniel. I love

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<v Speaker 1>the Book of Daniel. I love the stories of the

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<v Speaker 1>Book of Daniel, and I love Daniel one to eight.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been a long time favorite verse of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>But Daniel was determined not to defile himself by eating

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<v Speaker 1>the food and the wine that was given by the king.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's been.

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<v Speaker 1>Speculated that it's because those that protein was a sacrifice

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<v Speaker 1>to a false god, right, is that what you've heard that?

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<v Speaker 3>Or pork Okay, pork was a big part of the

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<v Speaker 1>That could have been that too, yep. But either way,

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<v Speaker 1>that part is actually a little bit less important. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>So it could have been that they, you know, had.

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<v Speaker 1>This meat that was sacrificed to false idols, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because the king, you know, was not a believer in

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<v Speaker 1>the true God. So it could have been that, or

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<v Speaker 1>it was poor for whatever reason, he had conviction against it.

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<v Speaker 1>And but the teaching of verse number eight is something

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<v Speaker 1>I've always held onto because Daniel had made up his

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<v Speaker 1>mind before the situation presented itself. So you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the King James version says he purposed in

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<v Speaker 1>powerful thing to determine in your mind where you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to draw the line before the situation presents itself. So

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<v Speaker 1>cross the boundary in any way. And you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>set your own convictions. You're going to set your own boundaries,

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<v Speaker 2>And I just love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love how Daniel was very intentional about his convictions

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<v Speaker 1>and now he had drawn the line in the sand

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<v Speaker 1>in his own heart before anything actually presented itself. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not as if he made a ruckus when they came

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<v Speaker 1>and said here eat, He's like, no, no, no. He

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<v Speaker 1>on my convictions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So it's it's it's it's very cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think it's a touch more elegant if

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<v Speaker 3>it was a pork or a forbidden food thing, because

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<v Speaker 3>then he wasn't only just choosing his personal opinions, right,

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<v Speaker 3>His convictions were centered on the laws of God right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Because there's alippery slope with a guy like nebie Keinezer

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, with Daniel and chatter at Meshek and

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<v Speaker 3>Ben and go in that when you begin to go, well,

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<v Speaker 3>we're in a foreign land now, and we know what

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<v Speaker 3>God's laws are, but we don't want to die. God

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't want us to die, so we'll just have to

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<v Speaker 3>compromise here and there, which the other elite young men did.

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<v Speaker 3>All the other guys with them are also from the

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<v Speaker 3>royal families of Judah, right, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't mention that they they did not as.

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<v Speaker 3>A matter of fact, that they were. These four boys

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<v Speaker 3>were compared against all the other young men, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>So all the other young men indulged, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and they felt justified to do so, probably, But you

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<v Speaker 3>have these four young men who go, we're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to compromise what we know is right. And when you

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<v Speaker 3>begin to receive gifts and embrace the culture of this

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<v Speaker 3>pagan culture, it's just a slippery slope to become just

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<v Speaker 3>like them, which we know happens later in the book,

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<v Speaker 3>because there's going to be a time when these are

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<v Speaker 3>the only guys that are standing up when everybody else

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<v Speaker 3>is bowing down. Right, So this is I think the

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<v Speaker 3>beginning that they predetermined in their heart we are not

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<v Speaker 3>going to if there's any possible way, We're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to compromise our our beliefs in God's ways, in God's words, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a part of that. I love the predetermined thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's really important. I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>young people in particular don't think through why they believe

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<v Speaker 3>what they believe right, and so then we rarely go,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care what God says, I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 3>what I want to do. Usually we just do what

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<v Speaker 3>we want to do because we don't know what God says,

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<v Speaker 3>or because we haven't embraced what God says right. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not always a lot of the dumbest things we've done

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<v Speaker 3>in our lives wasn't full on rebellion. A lot of

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<v Speaker 3>it was just either ignorance or I hadn't thought it

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<v Speaker 3>through and slipped into it and then thought what did

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<v Speaker 3>I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>But they predetermined it and just highlights their wisdom. The

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<v Speaker 3>other thing I love about this and I've been thinking

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<v Speaker 3>a lot about this. You and I just before the

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<v Speaker 3>podcast started, we're talking about a situation I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>help resolve, and the situation, the problem, it's a huge problem,

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<v Speaker 3>not with our church or anything, but outside of our situation,

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<v Speaker 3>and it really centers on a lack of diplomacy. The

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<v Speaker 3>problems came partly because bad people decided to do bad things,

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<v Speaker 3>but also otherwise good leaders lacked diplomacy. It's possible to

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<v Speaker 3>do the right thing the wrong way and get the

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<v Speaker 3>wrong result. Right, so if you do the right thing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what you did is right, but you did

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<v Speaker 3>it the wrong way, you're going to get the wrong result,

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<v Speaker 3>not the right result, even though you did the right thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So one of the things that one of the elements

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<v Speaker 3>I'm putting together the framework.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sort of like Christians who type in all caps.

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<v Speaker 3>It's maybe the right idea, but yeah, now you're screaming online.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm putting together the framework.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you and I can work on it later. Putting

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<v Speaker 3>together the framework for a substantial either a seminar or

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<v Speaker 3>a booklet something, maybe an ebook on biblical diplomacy. There's

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<v Speaker 3>not a lot written about biblical diplomacy. And Daniel is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the key factors. There's a bunch of them

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<v Speaker 3>in the Bible, of just very wise men and women

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<v Speaker 3>that use good tactics that can be applied and here Daniel.

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel knew that this was going to be for three years.

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<v Speaker 3>The guideline from the king was set this aside. They're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be trained for three years and then I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to if they're good enough, I'm going to bring

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<v Speaker 3>them into the royal service. So Daniel knows that we

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<v Speaker 3>got three years on this one. He goes to what's

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<v Speaker 3>the guy's name, Ashpinas the chief of staff and says, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>so we've got this issue. We're not going to eat

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<v Speaker 3>that food if there's any way we're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>eat it. But if you'd give us this other food,

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<v Speaker 3>the food that we can eat legally in our law,

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<v Speaker 3>in our belief system, we'd really appreciate it. We won't

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<v Speaker 3>cause any more trouble. And Ashpinaz goes, dude, I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to get killed if you guys, you have to be

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<v Speaker 3>sharp looking and better than everybody else. And he goes, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>then just test us for ten days. So what he

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<v Speaker 3>found was this really good, elegant solution and if it

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<v Speaker 3>worked out, it was going to be a win win

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<v Speaker 3>for both. And then he said just test it, and

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<v Speaker 3>so he was working for the win win. It turned

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<v Speaker 3>out that they were better, and so Ashpinaz wins because

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<v Speaker 3>he has these four you league guys, Daniel shatterick me,

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<v Speaker 3>scheck in a bed and go win. So taking the time,

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel did not just fight it, going no, we won't

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<v Speaker 3>do it. Do whatever you're gonna do to us. Daniel

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<v Speaker 3>also was solution oriented, offering an elegant solution that if

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<v Speaker 3>it worked out in his test, then Ashpanaz was going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a winner too. Yeah, and so this this

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<v Speaker 3>idea of biblical diplomacy. One of those is working for

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<v Speaker 3>a win win, And well, I forgot the other one

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<v Speaker 3>that I was going to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I said them both, Hey, so do you believe that

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<v Speaker 1>this was a miracle of sorts like a god or

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<v Speaker 1>like a god blessed kind of a challenge, because, after all,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Ashpinash said, well, we all know what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen if you only eat vegetables. If you only

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<v Speaker 1>eat vegetables, you're going to look pale and weak. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Daniel, because of his conviction and his belief and

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<v Speaker 1>because of God's law, says, I'll tell you what, let's

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<v Speaker 1>throw out a challenge. And so it's safe to assume

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<v Speaker 1>that because you know, I mean, it doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be this way. But I viewed this way, it's safe

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<v Speaker 1>to assume that God did this. God caused them to

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<v Speaker 1>look fairer and stronger and healthier that God showed up.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, this wasn't just a It wasn't merely

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<v Speaker 1>a practical solution. It was a weird I know, God

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<v Speaker 1>wants us not to partake in this food, like this

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<v Speaker 1>is a God thing. And guess what God's going to

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<v Speaker 1>take care of us. God will make us look healthier.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well God, God adds his super to our natural right,

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<v Speaker 3>So they did the right thing. Now, I can tell

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<v Speaker 3>you if you're eating a fatty, you know, less than

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<v Speaker 3>stellar diet like a king would eat, versus somebody deciding

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<v Speaker 3>to eat, you know, a really good healthy thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But we don't know. It could have been that the

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<v Speaker 2>king was very keen on lean protein.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know that. That's what it hints at.

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<v Speaker 2>It It doesn't hint in anything, right, Well, it hints at.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that they chose vegetables, yes, right, which means

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<v Speaker 3>they chose a really healthy man.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I'm asking is, I'm asking do you believe

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<v Speaker 1>have you always viewed it as And.

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<v Speaker 3>Again no, I didn't view it as a supernatural thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of the things I'm gonna ask gotten

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, we're gonna have some time to talk, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Follow, So supernatural it depends. Are you saying this was

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<v Speaker 3>happened there. I don't believe that. Do I think that

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<v Speaker 3>God blessed them for choosing to do the right thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well those are the same things.

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<v Speaker 3>Well no, because I think if you decided to do

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing, I think God would bless you too.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know that it needs to be this

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<v Speaker 3>walking on water kind of a miracle.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying. I'm not saying this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a natural result of doing the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's a fiery furnace moment. But I

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<v Speaker 1>am saying that they did step out of the fire furnace.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's he's going to be in the lions den.

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<v Speaker 1>These are these are people who are saying, I will

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<v Speaker 2>I won't bow down. I won't. I won't I won't

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<v Speaker 2>shut the doors. I'm gonna open my windows.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm not gonna stop praying, and I won't eat

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<v Speaker 1>the eat that's going to defile me, which is an

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<v Speaker 1>indication against against the laws of God, which means, in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, I think this is in the same category.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think that because there's no other reason

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<v Speaker 1>why ashvinash would have thought he was gonna look paler

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<v Speaker 1>and look leaner and uh not as healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>Unless unless he didn't understand the meals that these young

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<v Speaker 3>men were wanting prepared for.

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<v Speaker 2>Them well, but he was also a professional.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, so so I'm not arguing it other than

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that it does seem to say insaneventeen. God

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<v Speaker 3>does give them a supernatural aptitude for understanding every aspect

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<v Speaker 3>of literature and wisdom, and God gave Daniel the special

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<v Speaker 3>ability to interpret the meetings of visions and dreams. So

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<v Speaker 3>it highlights the fact that there are miracles in their knowledge,

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<v Speaker 3>but it doesn't say anything about physical miracles. I food.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's all.

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<v Speaker 2>I was saying. Yeah, I know, I know, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying not to.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to play I'm going to play Chris star

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<v Speaker 3>Ball here and say I don't want the scriptures. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want you to say something that's not in there. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's silent on the miracle side of the food thing, right,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's not silent on the miracle side of he

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<v Speaker 3>gave them an unusual aptitude for.

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<v Speaker 1>So I should have started I thought I did, but

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<v Speaker 1>I should have started with the clarity of like it

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<v Speaker 1>indicates no, in no way does it indicate that it's

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<v Speaker 1>just practical and like scientific and nutritional or miraculous, and

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<v Speaker 1>no way to indicate that.

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<v Speaker 2>And so there is you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, there's the Daniel diet, right, and there's all these

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<v Speaker 1>different things where people are like, look, there's proof.

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<v Speaker 2>There's proof right here.

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<v Speaker 1>See if you eat this way, that's the way it's better, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And that makes me chuckle inside because I'm like I'm like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. All you got to do is just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>step into a furnace and you want some like smoke either.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like, well, one is articulated as a miracle

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<v Speaker 3>and the other one is not articulated as a miracle. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>that is correct, right, So the the bigger picture here,

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<v Speaker 3>quite honestly, And that's a fun little debate. I like

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of stuff, right, yes, right, And this is

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<v Speaker 3>just asking for fun, a couple of preachers nerding out

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<v Speaker 3>on on the details of a thing. But the bigger picture.

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<v Speaker 2>Is they.

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<v Speaker 3>Determined in their heart that they weren't going to and

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's easier. There's a note here, it's easier

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<v Speaker 3>to resist temptation if you've thought through your convictions about

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<v Speaker 3>the temptation before it arises. Daniel and his friends made

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<v Speaker 3>their decision to be faithful to the laws of God

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<v Speaker 3>before they were faced with the King's delicacies, so they

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<v Speaker 3>did not hesitate to stick with their convictions. That's another

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<v Speaker 3>reason I think it was bad food. It's because it's

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<v Speaker 3>a delicacy kind of a thing. Anyways, we will get

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<v Speaker 3>into trouble if we have not previously decided where to

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<v Speaker 3>draw the line before such situations arise. Decide in your commitments.

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<v Speaker 3>Decide on your commitments and what you will do, and

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<v Speaker 3>then when temptation comes, you'll be ready to say no.

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<v Speaker 3>It's far easier to say no to a thing that

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<v Speaker 3>you've already predetermined it's going to be a no. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I try to predetermine my decisions, you know. I say

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<v Speaker 3>that all the time. Duties never conflict, right, right, say

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<v Speaker 3>it all the time. My wife hates it when I

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<v Speaker 3>say that, but it's true. I have a series of

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<v Speaker 3>priorities in my life that I've determined God is first,

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<v Speaker 3>and God's Ways are first. My wife is second, my

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<v Speaker 3>family is third, my church is fourth, and then within

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<v Speaker 3>there my responsibilities within the church, my various team leaders

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<v Speaker 3>and things, and then my work with TTI, and I

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<v Speaker 3>can kind of just spell it down from there, and

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<v Speaker 3>so duties never conflict. If I have one that goes

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<v Speaker 3>against the other, it's easy to make a decision. Then,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's a predetermined thing. There's always one thing that's

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<v Speaker 3>more important than the other thing. And so while it

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<v Speaker 3>feels conflicting to me, boy, those are both important to me,

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<v Speaker 3>I've already determined one is more important than the other,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it's way easier to make the decision that

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<v Speaker 3>I don't lose sleep over those decisions because I know,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, I've predetermined I have a set of priorities,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have to go with my priorities, so I

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<v Speaker 3>can't do everything. And I think that's what they did there,

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<v Speaker 3>is they decided God's Way was their priority, and it

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<v Speaker 3>made it way easier for them to make decisions, whereas

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<v Speaker 3>all the other young men hadn't really thought those things through,

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<v Speaker 3>and they wound up going the King's way well, and

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<v Speaker 3>they wound up adopting the culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. Hey, I can't wait to dive into the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of Daniel. And thanks for joining with us, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see you tomorrow on the Bible gush