Fallthrough

This week we're talking about Gastown! Dylan and Steve join Kris to break down the viral project that spins up hundreds of Claude Code instances to build a software factory. Steve makes the case for why this is an inevitable evolution and the conversation digs into what it actually means to treat software development as a factory floor. The panel traces the cycle from mainframes to PCs to cloud to AI, debates whether data centers are really the environmental villain, and gets into the real economics of AI pricing.

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This week's episode of Break continues the conversation. Kris and Steve dive deep into semantic versioning, the real cost of "breaking changes" in Go, and a whirlwind history of package managers from CPAN to NPM to Go modules. Watch it on YouTube or listen with your favorite podcasting app! Learn more by going to https://break.show/26.

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Table of Contents:
  • Prologue (00:00:00)
  • Chapter 1: Welcome Back, Dylan (00:00:46)
  • Chapter 2: What is Gastown? (00:06:02)
  • Chapter 3: Where Are the AI Factory Floor Managers? (00:07:53)
  • Chapter 4: The Industry is Cyclical (00:19:43)
  • Chapter 5: Rug Pull as a Service [Preview] (00:23:36)
  • Chapter 7: Energy, Grids & Con Edison [Preview] (00:24:12)
  • Chapter 9: Mainframes Are Still Holding It Together [Preview] (00:25:00)
  • Chapter 11: API Pricing & the Race to the Bottom [Preview] (00:25:35)
  • Chapter 12: Is AI Pricing Just Uber All Over Again? [Preview] (00:26:12)
  • Chapter 13: The Gambling Psychology of API Costs [Preview] (00:26:47)
  • Chapter 15: Beads & AI Dev Tools [Preview] (00:27:23)
  • Chapter 16: Steve's Secret Project [Preview] (00:27:52)
  • Chapter 6: Data Centers Aren't the Villain (00:28:45)
  • Chapter 8: The Case for Local AI (00:35:01)
  • Chapter 10: Claude Code Usage & Hitting the Limits (00:39:55)
  • Chapter 14: The Upgrade Treadmill (00:47:15)
  • Chapter 17: Claude Debugging War Stories (00:56:31)
  • Epilogue (01:01:28)

Socials:
  • (00:00) - Prologue
  • (00:46) - Chapter 1: Welcome Back, Dylan
  • (06:02) - Chapter 2: What is Gastown?
  • (07:53) - Chapter 3: Where Are the AI Factory Floor Managers?
  • (19:43) - Chapter 4: The Industry is Cyclical
  • (23:36) - Chapter 5: Rug Pull as a Service [Preview]
  • (24:12) - Chapter 7: Energy, Grids & Con Edison [Preview]
  • (25:00) - Chapter 9: Mainframes Are Still Holding It Together [Preview]
  • (25:35) - Chapter 11: API Pricing & the Race to the Bottom [Preview]
  • (26:12) - Chapter 12: Is AI Pricing Just Uber All Over Again? [Preview]
  • (26:47) - Chapter 13: The Gambling Psychology of API Costs [Preview]
  • (27:23) - Chapter 15: Beads & AI Dev Tools [Preview]
  • (27:52) - Chapter 16: Steve's Secret Project [Preview]
  • (28:45) - Chapter 6: Data Centers Aren't the Villain
  • (35:01) - Chapter 8: The Case for Local AI
  • (39:55) - Chapter 10: Claude Code Usage & Hitting the Limits
  • (47:15) - Chapter 14: The Upgrade Treadmill
  • (56:31) - Chapter 17: Claude Debugging War Stories
  • (01:01:28) - Epilogue

Creators and Guests

Host
Dylan Bourque
Host
Kris Brandow
Host
Steve Klabnik

What is Fallthrough?

A deep and nuanced conversational podcast focused on technology, software, and computing.