WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.789 --> 00:00:06.320 Welcome to the Soul Touched by Dogs Podcast, the show for dog lovers who 00:00:06.340 --> 00:00:12.000 see dogs not as toys or tools, but wise souls worth our respect and care. 00:00:12.580 --> 00:00:14.559 I'm an Herrmann, and I'm your host. 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:20.560 I talk to poor some humans, people who do great work for dogs and their people. 00:00:21.099 --> 00:00:23.360 So come and join us for today's conversation. 00:00:25.331 --> 00:00:27.031 Anke: Hello, welcome Ivy. 00:00:27.151 --> 00:00:30.781 I can't tell you how much I look forward to this conversation. 00:00:32.151 --> 00:00:32.831 Ivy: Me too. 00:00:34.271 --> 00:00:38.611 Anke: So yeah, a little Asia is our start today, but before we talk about 00:00:38.651 --> 00:00:41.521 Asia, let's talk about Ivy for a second. 00:00:41.531 --> 00:00:42.761 So where are you based? 00:00:42.891 --> 00:00:47.271 What's The day job, you know, give people like the two minute, but it's 00:00:47.301 --> 00:00:47.761 Ivy: Ivey. 00:00:48.261 --> 00:00:54.881 Sure, um, well, I'm Ivey Wolf Turk, uh, I'm a certified professional coach, uh, 00:00:54.891 --> 00:01:01.531 workshop facilitator, uh, inspirational speaker, and a champion of freedom. 00:01:01.641 --> 00:01:06.791 And, um, I live in New York, specifically in Long Island City, 00:01:06.791 --> 00:01:10.601 right across the river from the UN in the Empire State Building. 00:01:11.181 --> 00:01:18.566 And, um, I'm multifaceted in that I have many buckets, uh, that I coach in 00:01:18.576 --> 00:01:20.876 both for individuals and for groups. 00:01:21.366 --> 00:01:28.056 And I work with people to really support them in moving from the life or career 00:01:28.056 --> 00:01:32.186 that they have to the one that maybe they haven't yet even dared to dream. 00:01:32.696 --> 00:01:38.896 And that's done, um, in an individual coaching way and in a group format, and, 00:01:39.406 --> 00:01:43.186 um, I have two very specific audiences. 00:01:43.276 --> 00:01:48.946 Um, I've developed, um, an organization called Project Liberation, which for 00:01:48.946 --> 00:01:54.556 the last 10 years has served women who are coming home from prison and taught 00:01:54.566 --> 00:02:00.066 them emotional literacy, really fostered emotional intelligence and self worth, 00:02:00.536 --> 00:02:07.236 and over the years it occurred to me it shouldn't take, um, cement walls and 00:02:07.236 --> 00:02:11.561 bars to for a person to find their worth. 00:02:11.561 --> 00:02:16.331 And so I'm in the process of creating a liberated life for people 00:02:16.331 --> 00:02:18.571 who feel stuck or in transition. 00:02:18.941 --> 00:02:26.201 And stay tuned because it's evolving and will be launched first quarter of 2024. 00:02:27.646 --> 00:02:27.736 I 00:02:27.736 --> 00:02:28.176 Anke: love that. 00:02:28.206 --> 00:02:29.816 I love that because it is so true. 00:02:29.816 --> 00:02:33.736 Like, you know, prison can take a million different forms, can't it? 00:02:34.746 --> 00:02:41.126 Ivy: We find our way, you know, being imprisoned is another way to say stuck. 00:02:41.186 --> 00:02:46.916 And as one who has experienced real prison, we'll save 00:02:46.916 --> 00:02:48.396 that for another podcast. 00:02:50.546 --> 00:02:54.806 I know what it is to have limited movement and freedom or the perception 00:02:54.806 --> 00:03:00.306 that one has limited resources and movement and freedom and one's 00:03:00.306 --> 00:03:04.876 greatest adversity can really become one's greatest curriculum for growth. 00:03:05.346 --> 00:03:06.886 Mind Tour has, so. 00:03:08.256 --> 00:03:09.586 Anke: Definitely, it definitely has. 00:03:10.356 --> 00:03:15.796 So, So, since we're here to talk about soul touched by dogs, and you 00:03:15.796 --> 00:03:17.996 clearly have a soul that's been touched 00:03:17.996 --> 00:03:18.126 by 00:03:18.126 --> 00:03:18.606 Ivy: dogs. 00:03:18.836 --> 00:03:23.176 I do, and if you would give me a moment, the soul of my dog is 00:03:23.256 --> 00:03:25.106 growling, which she never does. 00:03:25.116 --> 00:03:27.716 She must know that we're speaking about her. 00:03:27.716 --> 00:03:30.206 So I'd like to bring her into view. 00:03:30.636 --> 00:03:31.596 I'm just going to get up and get her. 00:03:31.826 --> 00:03:31.836 I 00:03:31.836 --> 00:03:32.556 Anke: would love to. 00:03:32.586 --> 00:03:33.396 I would love to. 00:03:33.436 --> 00:03:34.496 Please bring her. 00:03:35.096 --> 00:03:37.566 Ivy: Because she is quite a personality. 00:03:38.096 --> 00:03:38.476 She's super cute. 00:03:38.526 --> 00:03:38.946 Um. 00:03:38.956 --> 00:03:39.206 Thank you. 00:03:39.516 --> 00:03:43.456 is probably hungry and angling for a goodie at the moment. 00:03:43.786 --> 00:03:46.866 So give me one moment and we will meet Miss Asia. 00:03:48.306 --> 00:03:50.196 Never stop looking forward. 00:03:50.676 --> 00:03:52.106 Come here, you little munchkin. 00:03:57.726 --> 00:03:59.826 We're going to introduce you on the podcast. 00:04:05.076 --> 00:04:05.646 Say hello. 00:04:06.616 --> 00:04:10.076 Anke: I was hoping we're going to see this little sweet pup. 00:04:10.906 --> 00:04:11.016 She's 00:04:12.696 --> 00:04:12.756 Ivy: so cute. 00:04:13.046 --> 00:04:18.766 So this is Asia who came into my life very serendipitously at 00:04:18.766 --> 00:04:20.636 a time when I was in mourning. 00:04:21.146 --> 00:04:27.236 I was, um, would you like me to talk about this of how, how her soul sort of. 00:04:27.296 --> 00:04:28.156 I would love you to. 00:04:28.686 --> 00:04:29.206 Yeah. 00:04:29.706 --> 00:04:41.606 Okay, so she, um, I had had Lukey, um, who was a Maltese poodle, family dog, um, 00:04:42.266 --> 00:04:45.836 with us for almost 14 and a half years. 00:04:45.896 --> 00:04:49.096 And in the last year of his life, um, He took ill. 00:04:49.186 --> 00:04:56.206 He had a heart thing happen, and it was a downward spiral that both my daughter 00:04:56.206 --> 00:05:03.326 and I, um, my son was living abroad, so he wasn't really involved, so it, we really, 00:05:03.736 --> 00:05:10.546 um, almost bankrupted ourselves to find a solution for this, this heart ailment. 00:05:11.356 --> 00:05:19.916 And it worked for a while, and then, um, actually, on the Jewish holiday 00:05:19.916 --> 00:05:24.506 of Yom Kippur, when technically the book closes for the following year, 00:05:24.776 --> 00:05:30.006 he spit out his pills and couldn't move, and basically, it felt to me 00:05:30.006 --> 00:05:32.946 like he was saying, Mom, I'm done. 00:05:33.731 --> 00:05:36.051 And I watched his body expanding. 00:05:36.051 --> 00:05:40.991 I ran through the streets of New York to the vet and she looked at 00:05:40.991 --> 00:05:44.581 me and she said, We've won a lot of battles, but we've lost the war. 00:05:44.951 --> 00:05:45.681 It's time. 00:05:45.741 --> 00:05:46.341 He's dying. 00:05:47.411 --> 00:05:57.881 And so, um, Luki died that day and it was a grief that I never, ever 00:05:58.221 --> 00:06:01.291 could have understood, uh, prior. 00:06:01.341 --> 00:06:06.031 I don't know if I was hallucinating, if I just somehow believed. 00:06:06.426 --> 00:06:11.396 That he was never gonna die, you know, I was, I mean, I was an experienced 00:06:11.396 --> 00:06:16.926 dog owner at that point, almost 15 years later, but somehow had never 00:06:17.176 --> 00:06:19.496 grappled with the death thing. 00:06:20.106 --> 00:06:22.206 It was devastating. 00:06:22.216 --> 00:06:27.996 It was as if a part of me had been ripped out and I'm a very emotional 00:06:28.156 --> 00:06:31.856 woman and had experienced grave. 00:06:32.426 --> 00:06:37.156 a human loss in my life and somehow this was different. 00:06:37.216 --> 00:06:41.226 It was, it, it was gripping. 00:06:41.586 --> 00:06:50.236 And my daughter, um, also, cataclysmically sad, said, Mom, 00:06:50.686 --> 00:06:52.156 we're never getting another dog. 00:06:52.176 --> 00:06:55.446 And I said, I know, I mean, you know, we can't. 00:06:55.766 --> 00:06:58.736 Well, fast forward a few weeks. 00:06:58.806 --> 00:07:00.386 I'm at a charity event. 00:07:00.736 --> 00:07:04.696 I'm given, um, an opportunity to buy some raffles. 00:07:04.716 --> 00:07:05.556 I do. 00:07:05.856 --> 00:07:10.116 Many of the people around me are winning trips all over the world. 00:07:10.216 --> 00:07:11.496 And what do I win? 00:07:11.776 --> 00:07:16.226 But an evening session with a woman named Psychic Cindy. 00:07:16.366 --> 00:07:23.706 Now I'd never spoken to a psychic before, this was kind of like, okay. 00:07:24.496 --> 00:07:29.166 And I'll fast forward, I get on the call and the woman says, he's 00:07:29.166 --> 00:07:31.326 been trying to get in all day. 00:07:31.516 --> 00:07:34.166 And I said, Oh, I'm so sorry. 00:07:34.166 --> 00:07:38.321 Like if You'd like I can call you back and reschedule and she said, no, no, 00:07:38.321 --> 00:07:43.631 no, no, there's a little dog on my lap that wants to send you an angel. 00:07:43.791 --> 00:07:50.121 He's very impatient and I'm thinking, okay, this is twilight, Sony. 00:07:50.651 --> 00:07:58.211 Anyway, she starts to tell me that there's an object on her dining room table. 00:07:58.371 --> 00:07:59.221 Oh, hello. 00:07:59.751 --> 00:08:06.431 Um, that he's insisting she photograph and send to me and that item. 00:08:06.951 --> 00:08:12.521 is a candle that looks like two ghosts holding the candle. 00:08:13.771 --> 00:08:18.081 And she sends the photograph and says, does this mean anything to you? 00:08:19.971 --> 00:08:20.501 It didn't. 00:08:20.501 --> 00:08:23.561 I mean, a ghost, two ghosts holding a candle? 00:08:23.571 --> 00:08:25.151 No, it didn't mean anything to me. 00:08:26.076 --> 00:08:30.296 Okay, the rest of the call was as bone chilling. 00:08:30.306 --> 00:08:33.876 My father came through, my nephew Vera came through. 00:08:35.086 --> 00:08:38.456 This was really quite a first psychic experience. 00:08:38.906 --> 00:08:41.996 If one was not a believer, one left that call. 00:08:42.386 --> 00:08:43.676 Really questioning. 00:08:45.356 --> 00:08:48.866 And two weeks went by and the phone rang and it was a friend I had not 00:08:48.916 --> 00:08:50.986 seen or spoken to in two years. 00:08:51.556 --> 00:08:58.766 And she said, I've, aside from catching up, I've rescued a little dog and I 00:08:58.776 --> 00:09:02.596 thought Lukey might be getting old at this point and it would be nice 00:09:02.596 --> 00:09:04.766 to have a little young energy around. 00:09:04.986 --> 00:09:08.486 And so I said, Oh, Lukey just died. 00:09:08.486 --> 00:09:12.566 I can't even talk about it, you know, and we, she said, well, 00:09:12.566 --> 00:09:14.616 that's more reason that you should. 00:09:14.996 --> 00:09:15.766 Have a dog. 00:09:15.776 --> 00:09:20.416 The only thing is this little one bites and I'm working with him and I said, well, 00:09:20.416 --> 00:09:25.176 that's not going to work because I'm about to become a grandmother in a few months. 00:09:25.546 --> 00:09:28.466 Can't have a newborn and a biting dog. 00:09:28.936 --> 00:09:31.086 She said, come out and meet him. 00:09:31.116 --> 00:09:32.626 I, I, I think you should. 00:09:32.786 --> 00:09:33.256 Okay. 00:09:33.676 --> 00:09:43.686 Went out to Long Island, met the dog, and she said, well, I guess you can't 00:09:43.706 --> 00:09:45.836 take Ghost home because he bit me. 00:09:45.876 --> 00:09:52.216 Not, not a big bite, just, and I went, what did you just call him? 00:09:52.746 --> 00:09:55.046 She said, oh, I named him Ghost. 00:09:57.776 --> 00:10:04.066 Okay, now I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm almost hyperventilating because now the angel 00:10:04.076 --> 00:10:07.876 that Lukey sent is Ghost, the biting dog. 00:10:08.486 --> 00:10:12.876 So I tell Tina the story, her eyes are rolling, and she said, All right, 00:10:13.196 --> 00:10:15.126 I'm going to really try to train him. 00:10:15.326 --> 00:10:17.196 You know, he was traumatized, blah, blah, blah. 00:10:18.006 --> 00:10:19.696 Okay, a few weeks go by. 00:10:20.786 --> 00:10:25.826 The baby is born, and she said, she calls and says, Okay. 00:10:26.186 --> 00:10:27.836 Lukey has not given up. 00:10:27.926 --> 00:10:33.926 Ghost is still biting, but Ghost's mother had a hookup with 00:10:33.926 --> 00:10:36.156 a chihuahua in the backyard. 00:10:36.246 --> 00:10:41.996 Ghost's mother is a Maltese, and from the backyard hookup, there is a 00:10:42.006 --> 00:10:48.596 litter, and they, it's the same trashy family, and the doggies are like 00:10:49.006 --> 00:10:55.286 muddled in bubblegum and leaves and mulch, and I'm grabbing one for you. 00:10:57.131 --> 00:11:02.621 I said, Tina, like, she said, this is Luke, this is Luke's 00:11:03.321 --> 00:11:05.171 soul is sending you this gift. 00:11:05.221 --> 00:11:10.041 This is Ghost's half sister and I'm sending you a girl. 00:11:10.781 --> 00:11:17.851 Well, never stop looking forward because this is my baby who I got. 00:11:18.871 --> 00:11:19.951 Tina kept her. 00:11:20.346 --> 00:11:24.506 Until she was eight weeks old, we, you know, we couldn't bring her into the city. 00:11:24.976 --> 00:11:33.836 And this little being is the most loving, kind, smart companion. 00:11:33.886 --> 00:11:40.956 And of course, right after that, the following March, the pandemic hit and. 00:11:41.636 --> 00:11:44.456 She has been my constant companion. 00:11:44.876 --> 00:11:47.296 She has become the best friend of the baby. 00:11:47.296 --> 00:11:48.756 They've grown up together. 00:11:48.946 --> 00:11:52.686 Tali and Asia are dearest and best friends. 00:11:53.156 --> 00:12:02.146 Um, Asia is just, she's She's determined, she's strong, she's 00:12:02.466 --> 00:12:08.586 smart, she loves to go shopping, she loves to eat, although she's picky 00:12:08.586 --> 00:12:11.076 and has quite a sophisticated palate. 00:12:11.716 --> 00:12:14.526 Um, she's resilient. 00:12:14.676 --> 00:12:21.446 Um, this past year, um, there was a rat infestation in New York City along 00:12:21.446 --> 00:12:23.356 the riverfront and we didn't know. 00:12:23.356 --> 00:12:25.586 It's a place that we walk every day. 00:12:26.036 --> 00:12:32.916 And, um, somehow she must have licked or eaten some rat poison and became 00:12:32.916 --> 00:12:37.866 violently ill when I finally, you know, vomiting and pooping blood. 00:12:37.896 --> 00:12:44.896 I mean, when I finally got her to the ER, um, they said we didn't know, you 00:12:44.896 --> 00:12:49.766 know, we don't know if she can make it and she resiliently came through it. 00:12:50.476 --> 00:12:56.596 Um, really forced me to look at readjusting her whole gut biome from the 00:12:56.596 --> 00:13:03.116 poisoning and putting her on probiotics and changing her food and going way more 00:13:03.116 --> 00:13:09.666 holistic than medical model, which I am personally, um, for me as a human. 00:13:09.956 --> 00:13:14.716 And now she's on the most wonderful, natural, fresh food. 00:13:15.321 --> 00:13:18.941 You know, the universe provided, they opened an outlet right down the 00:13:18.941 --> 00:13:24.811 block from us, so we'd go there and we'd get everything fresh, um, or 00:13:24.811 --> 00:13:27.141 freeze dried, you know, from fresh. 00:13:27.501 --> 00:13:33.701 And she's really healthy, I mean, you can see she's lean and, and strong. 00:13:33.851 --> 00:13:34.361 So cute! 00:13:36.401 --> 00:13:44.331 Really, really, um, present, you know, she understands human words, she, um, 00:13:45.241 --> 00:13:48.171 It's almost like she just gets it. 00:13:48.231 --> 00:13:50.351 She knows when we're going to the subway. 00:13:50.351 --> 00:13:52.551 She knows when we're going on the ferry. 00:13:52.991 --> 00:13:57.121 Um, she loves other dogs. 00:13:57.671 --> 00:13:57.901 It's a piece that people 00:13:57.901 --> 00:14:00.291 Anke: often underestimate, right? 00:14:00.291 --> 00:14:03.341 So it's that piece because they don't have language, you know. 00:14:03.431 --> 00:14:05.591 You know how there's this saying when people always say, 00:14:05.591 --> 00:14:06.731 Oh, I wish they could talk. 00:14:06.731 --> 00:14:08.071 And I'm like, they don't need to. 00:14:08.721 --> 00:14:11.241 You know, they have a million ways to communicate. 00:14:11.261 --> 00:14:13.761 They don't, you know, they don't need. 00:14:14.121 --> 00:14:16.451 words to understand what's going on. 00:14:16.471 --> 00:14:19.361 They don't really need words to communicate. 00:14:19.721 --> 00:14:24.741 If we pay enough attention to, to 00:14:24.741 --> 00:14:29.461 Ivy: listen, you know, If you're really tuned in, no different than with a spouse 00:14:29.511 --> 00:14:35.611 or a friend or a client, if you're really tuned in to listen, to really bring 00:14:35.611 --> 00:14:45.541 your curiosity, okay, to really, um, pick up on the unspoken body language. 00:14:45.991 --> 00:14:50.091 You really have an opportunity to convene with a dog in a way 00:14:50.451 --> 00:14:56.401 where you have the freedom of no words and an unspoken language. 00:14:56.921 --> 00:14:59.661 No judgment, although she'll judge something. 00:15:00.811 --> 00:15:07.371 For example, when she sees a suitcase come out from under the bed, she gets really 00:15:07.381 --> 00:15:15.201 nasty, like starts walking on my feet, like following me around, um, that may not 00:15:15.201 --> 00:15:19.661 sound nasty, but it's almost like, I don't want you to go, I don't want you to go. 00:15:19.691 --> 00:15:21.051 She's like gripping on. 00:15:22.026 --> 00:15:26.866 The last trip I took was a visit, a quick visit to visit my daughter in Mexico 00:15:26.866 --> 00:15:34.776 City, and I went to the bathroom, and when I came out, Asia was in a suitcase. 00:15:35.956 --> 00:15:39.396 She had jumped in the suitcase and was just burrowed away. 00:15:40.951 --> 00:15:46.471 You know, you were supposed to take me, and now you're not, like, boo hoo on you. 00:15:46.711 --> 00:15:55.931 So, it's really quite remarkable what they know, and how they figure out. 00:15:56.506 --> 00:16:02.436 Um, what's important and, you know, the comfort at night, you know, Asia 00:16:02.436 --> 00:16:08.606 waits for me, um, to like finish whatever I'm doing in the evening. 00:16:09.156 --> 00:16:14.186 She knows when the light goes off in the living room that she turns on her 00:16:14.186 --> 00:16:16.596 belly as if to say, okay, bedtime. 00:16:17.626 --> 00:16:22.866 Um, and you don't get to growl because you think you deserve a goody now, 00:16:22.876 --> 00:16:28.996 although I will give you one because you have been wonderful and I know you have. 00:16:28.996 --> 00:16:32.686 Um, you know, I'm going to walk with you to, to the goodies. 00:16:32.816 --> 00:16:42.646 Um, so, you know, she, she then gets into bed and she lays down and she completely 00:16:43.946 --> 00:16:50.916 waits for me to settle in, to get my final position, and then she spoons me. 00:16:51.546 --> 00:16:55.776 And she lays there, you know, I'm a pretty peaceful sleeper, but she 00:16:55.776 --> 00:16:58.186 lays there spooned in all night long. 00:16:58.196 --> 00:17:01.476 You couldn't hope for a better companion. 00:17:01.476 --> 00:17:05.716 And you know, especially when it's cold and that warmth of 00:17:05.716 --> 00:17:07.776 her little body is, is in there. 00:17:07.796 --> 00:17:10.376 She's just, it's quite remarkable. 00:17:11.561 --> 00:17:16.941 The knowing of, of, of her, her, it's her soul. 00:17:17.051 --> 00:17:21.151 Like she is my, my, my best girlfriend. 00:17:22.601 --> 00:17:26.031 Anke: See, that's why I wanted to have this conversation because 00:17:26.421 --> 00:17:29.171 it's not like just the doll, right? 00:17:29.191 --> 00:17:34.431 Or it's, there is that, there is that, that connection that, that, um, you 00:17:34.431 --> 00:17:38.461 know, and there was, there's, there's another episode on, on this show where, 00:17:38.571 --> 00:17:44.686 you know, where there's A coach who actually works with men who find they can 00:17:44.686 --> 00:17:48.596 be themselves around their dog and their struggle with the people in their lives, 00:17:48.596 --> 00:17:52.986 you know, like that kind of perfectly makes sense because they are there for us 00:17:52.986 --> 00:17:54.836 and have like, there is that connection. 00:17:54.866 --> 00:17:58.766 If you allow it, there's that connection that is pretty hard to do, 00:17:58.806 --> 00:18:02.176 kind of like achieve with other human beings, you know, because they just 00:18:02.176 --> 00:18:05.196 don't have all the monkey mind BS. 00:18:07.341 --> 00:18:14.471 Ivy: No, and you know, there's another benefit of having a friend dog slash dog. 00:18:15.041 --> 00:18:21.311 Um, I've gone through a lot of adversity, um, and some illness this past summer. 00:18:21.311 --> 00:18:28.896 And, um, you know, When you're, when things are upended and you're in that 00:18:28.896 --> 00:18:33.766 first moment of not seeing the opportunity and the adversity and you're feeling a 00:18:33.766 --> 00:18:40.906 little sorry for yourself, Asia always reminds me how a, I woke up that morning 00:18:40.906 --> 00:18:43.196 and how fortunate I am to be alive. 00:18:43.776 --> 00:18:47.836 And then is so, um, complicit. 00:18:48.601 --> 00:18:58.551 in getting me up, getting me out into nature, into um, really appreciating 00:18:59.061 --> 00:19:06.311 um, the day, you know, and the evening, you know, like we just had the most 00:19:06.311 --> 00:19:13.696 magnificent full moon last Friday and I'm, you know, I was engrossed, A 00:19:13.696 --> 00:19:17.736 friend was visiting and I was engrossed in a conversation and Asia nudged me 00:19:17.736 --> 00:19:20.576 like as if to say, Mom, I need a walk. 00:19:20.986 --> 00:19:25.516 Um, which is another thing, no words, just looks at me, nudges a little 00:19:25.516 --> 00:19:30.386 bit, like she, I know when she's hungry, she has a way, I know when 00:19:30.386 --> 00:19:32.806 she, it's time for, you know, walk. 00:19:33.146 --> 00:19:37.426 She knows when I'm spelling O U T because I'm stalling. 00:19:37.706 --> 00:19:40.006 Like, it's just a language. 00:19:40.321 --> 00:19:47.231 And we went out and she paused at at a very different spot than we 00:19:47.231 --> 00:19:54.341 would normally walk and looked up and there was this harvest moon. 00:19:54.551 --> 00:20:00.551 It was the most magnificent, powerful, light filled moment 00:20:01.171 --> 00:20:04.061 and she just directed me to it. 00:20:04.861 --> 00:20:09.861 So I believe she knows a lot more than I even know she knows. 00:20:11.521 --> 00:20:15.731 I know she knows when I'm sad, when I'm crying, she'll appear 00:20:15.731 --> 00:20:17.841 out of nowhere and lick my tears. 00:20:19.481 --> 00:20:22.891 She's a very tuned in soul. 00:20:23.836 --> 00:20:32.466 And my soul has been touched in a way that even my children who at 00:20:32.466 --> 00:20:36.626 first, you know, were like, Mom, how could you get another dog? 00:20:36.636 --> 00:20:38.396 Luke is dead a year. 00:20:38.396 --> 00:20:39.756 And it was like, wait a minute. 00:20:39.756 --> 00:20:42.396 He's not, Luke was not my Jewish husband. 00:20:42.396 --> 00:20:43.816 And I'm not even religious. 00:20:43.816 --> 00:20:45.476 That's like an orthodox thing. 00:20:45.746 --> 00:20:46.836 Like, come on. 00:20:47.666 --> 00:20:52.571 And, you know, They've all fallen in love with her. 00:20:52.571 --> 00:20:57.331 I mean, it's just assumed as my children have moved abroad, one set to Berlin, 00:20:57.331 --> 00:20:59.621 one to Mexico City, it's assumed. 00:20:59.671 --> 00:21:01.671 Well, did you get Asia chip? 00:21:01.701 --> 00:21:02.971 Did you get Asia shots? 00:21:02.971 --> 00:21:06.831 Did you, you know, and I'm having a conflict now because Europe 00:21:06.991 --> 00:21:12.191 requires a second chip and a rabies shot a month before. 00:21:13.161 --> 00:21:18.191 You actually arrived in Germany and Asia had her rabies shot, like to 00:21:18.191 --> 00:21:21.651 give her another dose, like, I'm thinking maybe we should just leave 00:21:21.651 --> 00:21:24.181 her home for a week and not schlep her 00:21:24.581 --> 00:21:24.841 Anke: through this. 00:21:24.891 --> 00:21:29.771 I think so, yeah, but that's like, yeah, no, I think like we could kind of, I 00:21:29.811 --> 00:21:33.291 think that that's a whole, that's a whole, that's more of the topic, I think 00:21:33.291 --> 00:21:37.821 this whole idea of, um, yeah, traveling, that's the whole point, yeah, definitely. 00:21:37.821 --> 00:21:42.626 Well, thank you, thank you so much because I think You know, like, we've often had 00:21:42.696 --> 00:21:46.646 these conversations where, you know, when you sort of, you're out with friends and 00:21:46.656 --> 00:21:50.356 you kind of want to go home because you feel like the dog's been alone for so 00:21:50.356 --> 00:21:56.626 long, and I think a lot of people don't get that, you know, and that's, I think, 00:21:56.636 --> 00:22:01.786 one of the reasons I even wanted to kind of create this, this space or whatever you 00:22:01.786 --> 00:22:07.966 want to call it to, to share these stories so that if, if somebody's listening and 00:22:07.966 --> 00:22:12.936 go, well, I'm that person who kind of, you know, connects with my dog on, on a 00:22:12.936 --> 00:22:19.016 level that's well beyond what, you know, traditionally you might've been taught 00:22:19.406 --> 00:22:21.756 that, um, yeah, you're onto something. 00:22:21.766 --> 00:22:22.766 You're not wrong. 00:22:22.776 --> 00:22:23.636 You're not ridiculous. 00:22:23.676 --> 00:22:25.136 It's, uh, I think. 00:22:25.781 --> 00:22:29.261 There's so much to see and I'm really grateful that you've come 00:22:29.261 --> 00:22:33.321 and shared and even like got a little Asia on on screen so 00:22:33.321 --> 00:22:33.851 Ivy: that was wonderful. 00:22:33.851 --> 00:22:34.861 Thank you Anke. 00:22:34.911 --> 00:22:39.431 You know you and I have shared this passion uh through our professional 00:22:39.431 --> 00:22:46.681 relationship through you know the last couple of years and um I've watched this 00:22:46.711 --> 00:22:53.051 being born and I think you, you are on to something major that, A, you're passionate 00:22:53.051 --> 00:22:57.741 about and what you're finding is that there are those of us who, yes, have been 00:22:57.741 --> 00:23:01.441 made wrong, like, oh, the dog will be fine, come on, you're going to give up 00:23:01.441 --> 00:23:06.051 going to this nightclub or that thing, or you're not going to stay at the party? 00:23:06.271 --> 00:23:10.521 And it's like, Okay, you can think I'm crazy. 00:23:10.681 --> 00:23:17.211 Um, I'm not fanatical, you know, but leaving her more than a couple, you 00:23:17.211 --> 00:23:22.431 know, of hours or not having somebody hired to come relieve her, so she's 00:23:22.431 --> 00:23:28.731 sitting there holding in a discomfort, like, so, you know, I, I have an arsenal 00:23:28.731 --> 00:23:34.821 of trusted and wonderful dog sitters now, and I'm not stopping my life. 00:23:35.101 --> 00:23:40.371 It's professionally important and humanly important for me, you 00:23:40.371 --> 00:23:44.671 know, to be able to meet a friend, go to a movie, have a dinner. 00:23:44.871 --> 00:23:47.151 Well, that's sometimes too long a stretch. 00:23:47.291 --> 00:23:47.561 Yeah. 00:23:47.751 --> 00:23:51.711 But I make sure that she's cared for no different than I wouldn't 00:23:51.731 --> 00:23:53.561 leave an infant unattended. 00:23:53.651 --> 00:23:54.241 Exactly. 00:23:55.031 --> 00:23:56.421 And Asia is not an infant. 00:23:56.431 --> 00:23:57.661 She's four and a half. 00:23:58.046 --> 00:24:00.726 But she doesn't deserve to suffer. 00:24:01.026 --> 00:24:03.866 And anyone who doesn't understand that, oh well. 00:24:03.916 --> 00:24:04.256 They can 00:24:04.256 --> 00:24:05.466 Anke: just go have a nice life, right? 00:24:08.116 --> 00:24:10.896 Well thanks, thank you so much and I'll 00:24:11.106 --> 00:24:11.876 Ivy: talk to you soon. 00:24:12.416 --> 00:24:13.946 Thank you for your mission, Anke. 00:24:14.116 --> 00:24:15.006 It's beautiful. 00:24:15.736 --> 00:24:16.196 Bye. 00:24:17.789 --> 00:24:19.019 Thanks so much for listening. 00:24:19.539 --> 00:24:23.839 If you enjoyed the episode, don't forget to subscribe, and leave a review so 00:24:23.939 --> 00:24:25.719 other dog lovers can find the show. 00:24:26.509 --> 00:24:29.999 If you haven't already, head over to soul touched by dogs. 00:24:30.429 --> 00:24:35.999 com and sign up for weekly doggy cuteness tips, recommendations, and personal 00:24:36.099 --> 00:24:38.469 stories to warm your dog loving heart. 00:24:38.469 --> 00:24:42.199 And if you know a pawsome human you think I should interview, 00:24:42.619 --> 00:24:43.759 I'd love an introduction. 00:24:44.239 --> 00:24:46.069 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