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Intro:
A production of Pioneer Utility Resources.

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StoryConnect, helping communicators discover ideas to shape
their stories and connect with their customers.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Frontline storytellers: how to train your team on subscriber
experience.

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That's what we'll be talking about on this episode of The
StoryConnect Podcast.

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Hi, I'm your host, Meghan McKoy-Noe, one of the storytellers at
Pioneer Utility Resources, and I am joined by Scott Paul,

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customer services director at Beacon Broadband on the Oregon
Coast.

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It is lovely over there, Scott, I must say.

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Now we are not on the Oregon coast today.

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Scott Paul:
Down in Vegas.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
We're in the desert today.

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I know, we are podcasting from the Calix ConneXions Conference,
so we like to say that any background noise that you may notice

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is ambiance to set the mood for sharing ideas there.

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Do you feel?

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Scott Paul:
I feel like, I feel like we're setting the mood.

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We're sharing some ideas.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Good. Good. Scott, thank you so much for joining us today.

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Well, I love Beacon Broadband.

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I've been a fan of y'all's for a while.

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You're a member of Pioneer, which is really fun through
Coos-Curry Electric, and you connected your first subscribers to

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broadband in 2022.

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Scott Paul:
Correct.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
So talk to us about where you are now, what are your biggest
challenges and opportunities?

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Scott Paul:
Yeah. So right now we're at 4,000 customers.

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You know, right at that 2,000 mark at the beginning of this
year; now over right at the 4,000.

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So we've doubled our business in ten months and 14 days.

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It's been a rush. And so I think that's our biggest opportunity
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We haven't had a lot of time to make sure we're doing it right
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You know, so I think that's what we're learning.

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We're taking that big step back and trying to figure out how we
can perfect our customers' experience and what processes and

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procedures can we make sure we put in place to make sure
everybody has the same experience from start to finish?

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I mean, we've got a great customer experience, scored over 86%.

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But you know, we're not, that's a great score.

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And I think the national average for telecom is like in the 30s.

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And so 86 is good, but we can get better.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Well, and I think you're pointing out something that is true of a
lot of folks I've talked to at this conference.

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They were rushing.

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They were rushing and rushing.

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Right. And they got everything built up.

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But maybe they didn't bring all their staff along the whole way.

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And they're taking a moment just to stop and say, "Wait, what
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What works well?

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What didn't work?" And they're taking a moment just to kind of
like one of those in magazines where you kind of rate

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yourself on stuff, you know, like dating profiles or whatnot.

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But for your broadband experience, how is this really going?

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You know, what kind of a broadband experience are we providing
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So self-evaluation.

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It's a beautiful thing.

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So you call your folks the Beacon Broadband customer care team?

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Scott Paul:
Correct.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Which I like. It's not service because service is kind of a
little distant.

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Maybe it's something we have to take care of.

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"Care," I mean, I feel like you're going to give me a hug,
right, just in the title of your team.

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So I love that you have "care" front and center.

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Tell us a bit about what your team looks like.

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Scott Paul:
Yeah. So I have currently on my team, in-house employees for the
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We've got five customer support representatives.

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Two in our Gold Beach office, three inside our Brookings office.

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Just a phenomenal group of individuals.

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We hired every one of them right out.

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No real customer care.

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I mean, they've done customer interaction jobs, but not
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And then, as far as getting them going,

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understanding how the fiber broadband network really connects our
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You know, whether it be telemedicine, telehealth, you teach
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are going to be impacted by what they do for them every day.

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They take that added time.

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And we didn't have a NOC team.

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And so we basically trained my CSRs up.

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Let's give them this added level of insight into technology.

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Let's get them trained on how to use Calix Support Cloud and how
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Wi-Fi network, how to set up an Alianza Adtran ATA through our
phone service and making them an expert

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in something. And so I've got Cassandra, who's my phone expert.

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I've got Tori, who's my TV expert.

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I've got Kayla, who's in charge of dispatching, making sure that
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I've got Chris just left us for a new position.

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He's moved up to level three, and he was in charge of Calix,
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Megan McKoy-Noe:
He's been promoted, and there's now an opportunity for growth for
someone else.

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Scott Paul:
100%. So I've got a phenomenal team that really puts in the
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I think they see the same aspirational growth for what they're
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And to be honest, our Coos-Curry members.

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I think being that member first mentality has really helped them
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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Definitely helps.

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So I'm curious, just to dig into it, how did you train them?

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I know you said they're all experts in certain areas, which I
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right? So it's also empowering them like, this is my space.

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This is what I know really well, and they can share it with
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But how did you train them?

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Was it like staff training days?

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Did you do videos that they watched, or did you have folks come
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Scott Paul:
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So it started off with a one-on-one.

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Let's let's sit down and see what you want to own.

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Because if you don't want to own it, I don't want to give it to
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Yeah. It's not going to work out the way either of us want.

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So what is it that you want to be known for?

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Do you want to be known for fixing a problem?

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And you see that as a problem.

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And so you're going to make it just the best thing that could
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"Um, no.

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That seems like too big of a lift for me." Great.

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Well, what is it that you're passionate about?

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What do you think you could impact the most?

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"I think this is." Great.

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Now, let's put together an action plan on what that looks like.

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From there, I really lean on my customer service lead, Kayla
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She's a phenomenal young lady.

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And she's my eyes and ears on the team.

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So they go to her.

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She comes to me, but then we publicly recognized the strong work
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Right. So what have you done to accomplish A, B, and C?

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And then let's share that with the team.

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Let's do these little study groups where we're going to get
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And you're going to share what you learned this week to make
sure that everybody here takes a little bit away.

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And because they're all specialists, they all want to share that
insight.

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Now with that, I've said all those great, wonderful things.

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The one thing we're working on now, it's not a downside.

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I think it's eye opening for them, and it's a different kind of
development, right?

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That's development towards what we offer.

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Now it comes down to development at their core level for them.

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And that is just because you're the specialist doesn't mean you
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You can't hold on to it so tight that you choke the life out of
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the only one that knows how to do it.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Share the love a little bit.

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Scott Paul:
So for over the last 6 or 7 months, that's what we've been
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Now that you're the expert, how do we make everybody a
specialist?

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So it's not just "Hey, they want to talk about phone.

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Here you go. Cassandra." It's hey, Cassandra, could you teach me
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calls in?

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Well, Scott, I really love what you're doing there.

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And I haven't heard of a lot of other folks explaining it like
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You know, we've been talking a lot at Calix about persona
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that you're focusing on strengthening your staff's core skills,
seeing them as people, finding things that identify with their

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personal brands, what do they want to take ownership of, and
then also helping them learn how to share their passion

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and teach others.

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I mean, that's huge just for career development and for
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I love that you do that.

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I mean, I've been around for a long time, Scott, and I haven't
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Scott Paul:
I hope that I think it's a great thing.

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I wish you had heard it more.

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I can tell you one example.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Maybe we don't talk about it.

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Scott Paul:
That's it. Yeah, yeah.

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One key example.

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We have a individual that came from a marketing background.

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She owned her own marketing business.

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Her name is Erin. She had her own marketing business, and I was
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Like we have onboarding material, but it's over here, and it's
over there, and it's over here.

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You've got this marketing background.

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Why don't you put together us an onboarding packet?

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And it is beautiful.

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So leverage their strengths too.

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If you're going to do it, leverage what they're great at and
what they're passionate about.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
I love that. Is that onboarding package something you might share
with folks?

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Scott Paul:
I will have to fine tooth comb it.

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It does say proprietary on front, but there's definitely parts
I'd be more than willing to share with anybody who asked.

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But if it's proprietary to Beacon, I might have to peel it back
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But yeah, I think the meat and potatoes.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Yeah, just the idea. And to see the way that you all are
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on your staff and bringing them, strengthening them,
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personal stories and to connect with the team.

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You're building a wonderful culture there at Coos-Curry and
Beacon Broadband, so that is exciting.

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I also have seen from the outside that your subscribers
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hitting home with folks.

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So I kind of dug in the archives with Ruralite magazine, which
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a column in there every now and then just to give updates on
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So I found a column where you shared a quote from a subscriber,
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This is the quote.

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"The installer helped me understand my equipment properly."
Okay, that's that's fine.

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"He was kind and used his brain to explain technical things at
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of understanding." He used his brain, I think is a key phrase in
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It's really powerful that your subscribers are recognizing that
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from their point of view.

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Sometimes I don't know about you, Scott, but I slip into jargon,
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I forget to explain things in a way that connects with folks
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So how do you train your team?

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I mean, they're specialists in different areas.

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How do you help them to use their brains?

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Very important part.

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Scott Paul:
Very important.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
And make it easy to understand how broadband works, to tell their
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Scott Paul:
So because they're experts, it's easy for us to get in the lingo.

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I mean, bandwidth.

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I don't care what bandwidth is.

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I want to know that that's the amount of cars that can drive
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Capacity. Same thing.

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It's upload and download.

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Like you can drive somebody crazy just trying to talk about how
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Megan McKoy-Noe:
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Scott Paul:
So share that.

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But share that with somebody who wants to hear that.

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Don't share that with somebody who just wants to know if Netflix
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So I think it's giving them the tools to answer as many
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connects with that individual that's asked that specific
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And my team does a great job listening to their customers so
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answer that question in return.

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The fact that it might require a 2.4GHz network to hook your
printer up.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
That just went woo.

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Scott Paul:
Woo right over their head.

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The printer doesn't print when I click the print button.

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Let's make that work for you.

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Are you in front of it? Let's walk through how that works.

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So yeah, we know why it needs a 2.4 internally at Beacon.

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The customer doesn't care.

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They just want to click the print button.

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So that's what I think we've really done, and my team does a
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We got to listen to what our customer's needs are, so we can use
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talk at them the way they want to be talked to.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Or talk with them, not at them.

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Scott Paul:
That's 100%. Everybody's got a passion, but they can bore you if
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So let's be passionate at their level and finish the
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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Do you have any notes?

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Do you use, like some folks have for their CSR teams, they'll
have scripts that they use for things?

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Do you have any tools like that to help folks or?

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Scott Paul:
Yeah, so Kayla's put together just basically, for like a new
order that's coming in.

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She's put together like a "Do they want the triple play?" Do
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located?" But, it's very just to help our installer know a
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But that empowers the installer when they show up.

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"Hey, I heard your Spectrum router or your X company router is
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Let's get up to the third floor and see if that's the best
location.

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Or did you have a different idea of where it was going?" But oh,
the customer service team listened to me.

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They gave you the tools and resources you needed to then ask me
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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Okay, so they've got kind of a guide how they can set up other
team members for success, which is important.

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Do they have like words to never use?

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Scott Paul:
I think I've just beat it into them that we're not allowed to use
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There's a difference between "not possible," "no," and
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Let me look into that.

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What a wonderful idea.

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I haven't had come across that just yet, but let me put it in
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So if I am across the room and I hear, "no," it's like the one
bugaboo that Scotts got, you don't say no to Scott.

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You say "yes," or you find a different way to to distance
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My team is very aware of that.

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Like we are member first, and we don't tell people no.

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It might not be possible, but "no" never comes out of our mouth.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
I love that you're always looking for solutions, not closing
doors on anyone, which is so good.

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Scott Paul:
I want all this underground.

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Great. It's $20 million.

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It's not a no.

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It's just going to cost you a lot of money to put it in the
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Megan McKoy-Noe:
So you talked briefly about this earlier with the team sharing
their strengths with each other.

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Do you have any other mentoring opportunities to really help
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across Beacon Broadband and maybe at Coos-Curry, or even outside
of your group?

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Scott Paul:
I know, I was just saying, I don't think I have anything extra
inside of my team that I'm doing.

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I mean, we definitely challenge team builder ideas and contests
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step out of their role and find something that they can be
passionate outside of work.

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And so Beacon Broadband, just with the help of Bill Gurski, our
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the city of Gold Beach.

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Connected Senior, yeah, I hit you with something fun.

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But Connected Senior is we've got the largest elderly customer
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state of Oregon and Curry County, the county of, you know,
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It's one of the big counties we have.

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And because we have an older population base, we wanted to find
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computer. And so Bill came up with these Connected Senior, where
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a computer. And they're trained by seniors in high school that
have tech backgrounds.

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So you got senior citizens being trained by seniors in high
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But they're led by my CSR, Cassandra.

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So you've got step out of your comfort zone, give back to the
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term. So that's where I challenge my team outside of building it
internal, build it outside.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Yeah, I love that.

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And the seniors and seniors.

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Scott Paul:
The Connected Senior program.

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You could do a whole –

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Connecting them together. Oh there's so much there.

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Scott Paul:
Bill's around here. I'm sure he'll come talk to you about it.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
No, it is beautiful.

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Now, you've talked about how they have their specialists, and
they know their story and how to connect with folks.

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How do you keep them up to date on what you're sharing in
Ruralite magazine, on your social channels?

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What's going on in the community to make sure if a member hears
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messages are being shared?

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Scott Paul:
I mean, we're a communication company, and so we got to be
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Megan McKoy-Noe:
It doesn't always work that way though.

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Scott Paul:
It's impressive.

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But I think understanding how they like to be communicated with
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Do you like text? Do you like Teams chat?

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Do you want public coaching?

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Do you want private coaching?

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That was something that I learned with one of my team members is
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I was always told, "Celebrate in public.

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Coach in private." This individual was very much the opposite.

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You can do whatever you want if you're yelling at me.

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But if you're giving me praise, we do it behind a closed door.

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And so, but if you understand that about your team, you
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And then it depends on the message, right?

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We recently had a situation where we had an escalated customer
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Customer was very upset, and the team was like, I want like
passionately.

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It was a bad call, but I want to cancel this customer.

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It's like, "Well, hold on, let's take a giant step back.

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That sounds awfully close to "no.""

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
I was gonna say, don't cancel customers.

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Scott Paul:
So let's talk about the interaction.

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What happened? And obviously, she trusted me enough to vent that
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only going to bring the whole team down.

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And let's walk through that individually.

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Let's talk about how this goes.

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So you start peeling back the layers, and the customer was just
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And when you investigate it, you realize we did kind of mess up.

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And yeah, he may have been upset, but let's role reverse this.

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What would you have been if the same thing happened?

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So nobody's perfect.

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Nobody's flawless. But giving them that insight on let me coach
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other side is.

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I think is developing them to take my spot hopefully one day
because that's the end goal, right?

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Get promoted.

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Let them take your spot.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
So I love that.

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And it goes back to what you started out the whole conversation
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It's about building trust with your team so that you can have
those conversations and all grow through it together, which is

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beautiful, Scott.

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I love that. One last question before I let you go.

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I'm having so much fun with you.

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Scott Paul:
So am I, Megan, I love it.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Thank you for doing this.

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But what advice do you have for utility pioneers who want to
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storytelling?

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Scott Paul:
It's a great question.

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I think you ask your customers and understand what their
impression is of you.

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I think it's very valid that what you think might be really,
really working, isn't really, really working.

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And so we do that often.

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What else can, the way we end every conversation coming into
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you called in for this.

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You called in for that.

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We did this, and we did this to solve it.

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What other things can I do to help make your Beacon experience
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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Love that.

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Scott Paul:
So find those extra pieces.

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You don't need to take a survey every thirty months or three
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What else do you have?

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And so taking it to that next level, I think.

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Don't settle with patting yourself on the back.

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Always challenge yourself for that next thing.

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That would be my advice.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
Oh, that is wonderful advice.

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Thank you so much for sharing your story with utility pioneers.

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Scott Paul:
My pleasure.

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Megan McKoy-Noe:
He is Scott Paul from Beacon Broadband, and I'm your host, Megan
McKoy-Noe at Pioneer Utility Resources.

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And until we talk again, keep telling your story.

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Outro:
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