the Love Says podcast

In this episode, we have our very first guest! Lauren Abrami, my wife and all-around beautiful human, shares about when she feels the most love and the most fear within herself, how she gets on the "express lane" back to Love, what she considers the gift of anger — and
why she compared me to kale when we first started dating.

If there's anything you want to reflect on or share after listening to this episode, feel free to email me at

What is the Love Says podcast?

What unfolds when we each find our own way back to a place of love?

Love can get us through the most painful moments, give us the freedom to grow , the courage to change - and Love can lead us to a whole lot of peace and joy and possibility.

So let’s see what happens — in us, in our life and in our world when we listen in to what Love Says.
the Love Says podcast Team:
Co-Produced by Elizabeth Johnson & Paul Voran
Engineered by Paul Voran at SoapBox Records
Logo Art Design by Courtney Stephens of Fairfield Street Designs
Theme music by Paul Voran
Messaging & Marketing by Amy Fukuizumi at You're a Big Deal