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Movement isn't just about muscles and joints. It's also about how our bodies are taking in, interpreting and responding to the world around us.
Katy Bowman and Dr. Jeannette Loram discuss how listening can provide valuable information about how we're moving: listening to the sound of your feet landing as you walk, the rhythm and mechanics of rowing, the sound of your stroke as you swim, and even the timing and quality of the breath during exercise can attune you to the form and efficiency of your movement.
The conversation turns to vision with neuro-optometrist Dr. Bryce Appelbaum. Katy and Dr Appelbaum explore the relationship between vision and movement, including how visual information can influence balance, spatial orientation and confidence when navigating complex environments. They discuss how our ability to perceive the physical world can be diminished by prolonged, narrow focus on our screens, and how menopause can make visually demanding tasks even more overwhelming. Dr. Appelbaum shares some eye exercises to help us take in more of the world around us—improving our visual system and physical competence at the same time.
Finally, Katy and Jeannette answer a listener question about movement programmes for blind people.
Katy Bowman and Dr. Jeannette Loram discuss how listening can provide valuable information about how we're moving: listening to the sound of your feet landing as you walk, the rhythm and mechanics of rowing, the sound of your stroke as you swim, and even the timing and quality of the breath during exercise can attune you to the form and efficiency of your movement.
The conversation turns to vision with neuro-optometrist Dr. Bryce Appelbaum. Katy and Dr Appelbaum explore the relationship between vision and movement, including how visual information can influence balance, spatial orientation and confidence when navigating complex environments. They discuss how our ability to perceive the physical world can be diminished by prolonged, narrow focus on our screens, and how menopause can make visually demanding tasks even more overwhelming. Dr. Appelbaum shares some eye exercises to help us take in more of the world around us—improving our visual system and physical competence at the same time.
Finally, Katy and Jeannette answer a listener question about movement programmes for blind people.
Enhanced Show Notes and Full Transcript
00:00:00 – Listening to gait
00:04:36 – Dynamic Collective sponsors
00:06:53 – Putting our senses to work: walking, rowing, swimming and soccer
00:25:29 – Vision is more than eyesight: how vision guides movement
00:30:11 – Screens, peripheral vision & taking in the world
00:48:42 – Vision and menopause: brain fog and overwhelm
00:56:32 – Listener question on movement classes for blind people sponsored by Movemate
00:00:00 – Listening to gait
00:04:36 – Dynamic Collective sponsors
00:06:53 – Putting our senses to work: walking, rowing, swimming and soccer
00:25:29 – Vision is more than eyesight: how vision guides movement
00:30:11 – Screens, peripheral vision & taking in the world
00:48:42 – Vision and menopause: brain fog and overwhelm
00:56:32 – Listener question on movement classes for blind people sponsored by Movemate
Books, Podcasts & Other Resources
Podcast: Can Exercise Fix Aging Eyes? Ep 186 — Move Your DNA Podcast
Podcast: What’s It Like to Slowly Go Blind? — Search Engine Podcast
Book: An Immense World: How Animal Senses Reveal the Hidden Realms Around Us by Ed Yong
Book: The Country of the Blind by Andrew Leland
Book: All the Light We Cannot See by Anthony Doerr
Podcast: Can Exercise Fix Aging Eyes? Ep 186 — Move Your DNA Podcast
Podcast: What’s It Like to Slowly Go Blind? — Search Engine Podcast
Book: An Immense World: How Animal Senses Reveal the Hidden Realms Around Us by Ed Yong
Book: The Country of the Blind by Andrew Leland
Book: All the Light We Cannot See by Anthony Doerr
Connect with Dr. Bryce Appelbaum
My Vision First — Dr. Bryce Appelbaum’s Vision Therapy Clinic
Dr. Bryce Appelbaum on Instagram
ScreenFit™ by Dr. Bryce Appelbaum — take $200 off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT
Connect, Move & Learn with Katy
Join Our Newsletter: Movement Colored Glasses
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Try Katy's Virtual Studio Free for 7 days!
Join Our Newsletter: Movement Colored Glasses
Follow Katy on Substack
Try Katy's Virtual Studio Free for 7 days!
Made Possible By Our Wonderful Sponsors:
Earth Runners: makers of minimalist earthing sandals designed for natural foot movement and connection to the ground— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
Movemate: Active standing boards with smoothly articulating wooden slats. Designed to keep you moving without interrupting your focus.
Venn Design: Beautifully upholstered ball-shaped Air Chairs and floor cushions that encourage dynamic sitting
My Happy Feet: Toe-spacing socks that gently realign toes for comfortable shoe recovery—take 20% off with code MYDNA
Freet Barefoot: creators of comfortable barefoot shoes built for natural movement, flexibility, and durability— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
Ikaria Design: The Soul Seat® offers height-adjustable, multi-position sitting—get 10% off new chairs and desks with code DNA10
ScreenFit™: a complete online vision training program —take $200 off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT
Earth Runners: makers of minimalist earthing sandals designed for natural foot movement and connection to the ground— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
Movemate: Active standing boards with smoothly articulating wooden slats. Designed to keep you moving without interrupting your focus.
Venn Design: Beautifully upholstered ball-shaped Air Chairs and floor cushions that encourage dynamic sitting
My Happy Feet: Toe-spacing socks that gently realign toes for comfortable shoe recovery—take 20% off with code MYDNA
Freet Barefoot: creators of comfortable barefoot shoes built for natural movement, flexibility, and durability— use code DNA10 for 10% off.
Ikaria Design: The Soul Seat® offers height-adjustable, multi-position sitting—get 10% off new chairs and desks with code DNA10
ScreenFit™: a complete online vision training program —take $200 off with code NUTRITIOUSMOVEMENT
Creators and Guests
What is Move Your DNA with Katy Bowman?
Movement isn’t optional—our bodies need it to thrive. Many of us struggle to get regular exercise, and even when we do, it can fall short of truly nourishing the body from head to toe. How can we move more—a lot more—when parts of us are sore, stiff, or simply forgotten in our busy lives?
Join biomechanist Katy Bowman, M.S., and biologist Dr. Jeannette Loram on Move Your DNA, where big-picture science meets practical action. Together, they explore biomechanics, kinesiology, physiology, cellular biology, and natural human movement—and translate it into simple, effective ways to wake up your trillion body parts. With humor, curiosity, and a focus on longevity, Katy and Jeannette help you move smarter, move more, and create a more natural habitat for yourself and your communities in today’s mostly sedentary world.