WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:10.790 --> 00:00:15.150 Tim: You are now entering Arm Bar audio. 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:23.550 Hello and welcome to a new episode of Armbar Audio. 00:00:23.670 --> 00:00:28.500 I'm your host, Tim Farley, and next to me is my trusted companion, Sean Kearns. 00:00:28.500 --> 00:00:29.430 What's up everybody? 00:00:30.975 --> 00:00:37.065 We are back and, uh, we're just gonna catch up with you guys. 00:00:37.095 --> 00:00:41.685 Um, uh, I don't think we've had a podcast this calendar year. 00:00:42.075 --> 00:00:42.915 I don't think so either. 00:00:43.215 --> 00:00:48.345 So we're just gonna talk about whatever we want to and, uh, hopefully you enjoy it. 00:00:48.795 --> 00:00:51.735 This is the, uh, maybe there will be points of contention 00:00:51.735 --> 00:00:52.785 and you can talk about it. 00:00:53.160 --> 00:00:53.490 Maybe, 00:00:53.760 --> 00:00:55.650 John: uh, but this is like the rebirth 00:00:56.040 --> 00:00:56.820 Tim: of audio. 00:00:57.060 --> 00:00:57.540 Yes. 00:00:57.810 --> 00:00:58.200 Yes. 00:00:58.200 --> 00:00:59.070 We were born again. 00:00:59.070 --> 00:01:00.780 We've been talking about it for a while. 00:01:01.260 --> 00:01:01.650 Yeah. 00:01:01.769 --> 00:01:04.140 It's just, uh, things have been going on. 00:01:04.260 --> 00:01:08.010 Um, John moved, John got a promotion. 00:01:08.340 --> 00:01:09.480 John new spot. 00:01:09.485 --> 00:01:10.410 Hey, what up? 00:01:10.410 --> 00:01:10.770 You? 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:19.289 Uh, and I have been and a new spot focused on getting better your life. 00:01:19.500 --> 00:01:19.740 Yeah, 00:01:20.280 --> 00:01:20.580 John: yeah. 00:01:20.670 --> 00:01:21.330 And getting better. 00:01:21.600 --> 00:01:21.870 Yeah. 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:22.860 While doing it. 00:01:23.429 --> 00:01:23.880 Tim: That's right. 00:01:24.240 --> 00:01:30.330 They were better than here every day in every way, except obviously 00:01:30.780 --> 00:01:32.190 not in the weight loss department. 00:01:33.660 --> 00:01:34.680 You've had other shit to do. 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:34.980 Don't worry. 00:01:37.170 --> 00:01:37.620 Fuck it. 00:01:37.620 --> 00:01:38.370 They don't like it. 00:01:40.289 --> 00:01:41.580 It's more for somebody else. 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:42.120 You know what I'm sure. 00:01:43.190 --> 00:01:50.100 Anyways, so, uh, this past year, it's not like, John and I haven't 00:01:50.100 --> 00:01:51.570 discussed wrestling with each other. 00:01:51.750 --> 00:01:55.950 Uh, we're in a group chat with, uh, our friend Drake, who used 00:01:55.950 --> 00:01:58.170 to be on the Phenomenal podcast. 00:01:58.170 --> 00:02:02.460 He's been on our podcast a couple of times, and of course, you know, our, 00:02:02.550 --> 00:02:06.330 you know, him, member, Sid, nerdy Mark. 00:02:06.900 --> 00:02:13.740 And, uh, one of the, one of the main things that we've been going, we have gone 00:02:13.740 --> 00:02:17.070 back and forth on, was this right here. 00:02:17.160 --> 00:02:17.430 Yeah. 00:02:17.970 --> 00:02:24.630 Uh, I was, I was very concerned, uh, if r o h would have its own identity, uh, 00:02:24.660 --> 00:02:30.030 because leading up to the actual show on honor club, you know, there was a 00:02:30.030 --> 00:02:37.470 lot of r o h workers and champions in a e w, uh, whether it be on dark shows 00:02:37.470 --> 00:02:42.900 or main shows, and, you know, I kinda got a little rubbed the wrong way. 00:02:43.440 --> 00:02:51.390 But now that we're, uh, a pay-per-view and about eight episodes in, I would, 00:02:51.780 --> 00:03:01.050 I would say some of my concerns still exist, but they've dissipated a bit 00:03:01.530 --> 00:03:03.840 and I really enjoy Ring of Honor. 00:03:04.110 --> 00:03:04.410 Yeah. 00:03:04.620 --> 00:03:09.300 Um, one of the main reasons I enjoy Ring of Honor television 00:03:09.870 --> 00:03:12.000 is an obvious anchor for them. 00:03:12.420 --> 00:03:12.990 Athena. 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:13.920 Yeah. 00:03:14.040 --> 00:03:17.550 Now for sure, if you remember John, whenever she became 00:03:17.550 --> 00:03:19.170 the Ro o h women's champion. 00:03:19.950 --> 00:03:20.760 I was kind of annoyed. 00:03:23.010 --> 00:03:23.520 Yeah. 00:03:23.640 --> 00:03:24.240 Um, 00:03:24.750 --> 00:03:31.650 John: I think a lot of people were because like it was like we hadn't 00:03:31.650 --> 00:03:34.050 seen Mercedes Martinez for a long time. 00:03:35.565 --> 00:03:38.505 And where your Honor comes around and you're like, oh, great. 00:03:39.585 --> 00:03:45.705 Finally Mercedes, uh, Mercedes, Mercedes Martinez might be getting 00:03:45.710 --> 00:03:51.855 the camera time that she deserves, and then she lost the title, the first. 00:03:52.245 --> 00:03:54.584 Defense under the Tony umbrella? 00:03:55.875 --> 00:03:56.385 Tim: Well, yeah. 00:03:56.385 --> 00:03:58.725 Like under, under the big time. 00:03:58.785 --> 00:03:58.965 Yeah. 00:03:58.965 --> 00:04:00.045 Tony K Umbrella. 00:04:00.105 --> 00:04:01.364 Yeah, because she'd beat Serena D. 00:04:01.364 --> 00:04:02.084 But that Yeah. 00:04:02.144 --> 00:04:07.845 But like my thing was I wanted Athena to be a big thing in a w. 00:04:07.845 --> 00:04:08.535 In a W. 00:04:08.540 --> 00:04:08.834 Yeah. 00:04:09.375 --> 00:04:16.125 But now as Ring of Owners went on, and as I've listened to some podcast with 00:04:16.125 --> 00:04:23.685 Athena, I think it's great because, um, For people who have watched Ring 00:04:23.685 --> 00:04:29.804 of Honor in the past, the women's division never really got off the ground. 00:04:29.984 --> 00:04:31.905 In the early days, there would be a match. 00:04:31.905 --> 00:04:33.015 Yeah, the Women of Honor, yeah. 00:04:33.020 --> 00:04:33.234 Yeah. 00:04:33.234 --> 00:04:36.375 There would be a match here and there, but never really a division. 00:04:36.734 --> 00:04:41.775 And then they had a division for a little bit with Kelly Klein and Maui with Tawny. 00:04:41.775 --> 00:04:45.344 I think they wrestled each other at the Madison Square Garden Show. 00:04:45.344 --> 00:04:50.234 But then things happened there where it kind of fell apart and then Right. 00:04:50.550 --> 00:04:55.410 Uh, before the pandemic or during the pandemic, they had the Women of Honor, 00:04:56.010 --> 00:04:58.980 uh, title tournament, and Roxanne won. 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:05.400 But then she went to wwe, uh, and then Ring of Honor kind of went into this mode 00:05:05.400 --> 00:05:09.600 where, you know, Sinclair didn't know where it was going, and then eventually 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:11.130 Tony Con bought it, blah, blah, blah. 00:05:11.580 --> 00:05:16.110 So to have a woman like Athena, who in my opinion, is one of the best. 00:05:16.545 --> 00:05:18.315 Women's wrestlers on the planet. 00:05:18.735 --> 00:05:19.185 Oh yeah. 00:05:19.185 --> 00:05:27.495 To be holding it down and actually solidifying the title for the first 00:05:27.495 --> 00:05:30.435 time in history is pretty fantastic. 00:05:30.945 --> 00:05:31.435 Yeah. 00:05:31.440 --> 00:05:37.665 Um, she's been putting on banger after banger, Yuka Sakaki Emmy soccer. 00:05:38.025 --> 00:05:41.535 Um, last week she did Heather Reckless. 00:05:42.105 --> 00:05:45.585 Ashley d uh, Willow Nightingale. 00:05:45.585 --> 00:05:46.785 How could I forget that? 00:05:47.505 --> 00:05:54.315 And, um, she's just, her whole like porcelain hussy thing where like, uh, 00:05:54.375 --> 00:05:58.755 it's super card of honor where she broke the, uh, porcelain doll at first. 00:05:58.815 --> 00:06:04.245 Yeah, like I, her character and uh, her promos, just 00:06:04.245 --> 00:06:07.815 everything about the Athena is. 00:06:08.789 --> 00:06:09.510 High gear 00:06:09.570 --> 00:06:09.990 John: right now. 00:06:10.180 --> 00:06:15.990 I like, um, and they sort of touched on it on the most recent Ring of Honor tv. 00:06:17.250 --> 00:06:24.000 Uh, Ian Rabani talked about Rick Bunny, Rick, it's like, it's like a multiple 00:06:24.005 --> 00:06:25.620 personality thing with her right now. 00:06:26.610 --> 00:06:26.880 Yeah. 00:06:27.090 --> 00:06:30.299 Like where she jumps into these other, like these different 00:06:30.299 --> 00:06:35.250 moods throughout the match where she'll be, she does that thing. 00:06:36.465 --> 00:06:39.255 She does that thing where she like jumps like a court jester. 00:06:39.885 --> 00:06:40.185 Yeah. 00:06:40.185 --> 00:06:40.965 You know what I'm talking about? 00:06:41.025 --> 00:06:41.955 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:06:42.405 --> 00:06:47.025 But then she'll go right back to the series and, uh, I, I just went to, I, I 00:06:47.025 --> 00:06:49.545 just went to Dyna White a couple days ago. 00:06:49.695 --> 00:06:50.655 Yeah, we're gonna get into that. 00:06:50.715 --> 00:06:56.145 And Ring of Honor was, um, rank of Honor kicked off the show or checked off 00:06:56.145 --> 00:06:58.155 the live wrestling that we gotta see. 00:06:58.845 --> 00:07:03.345 Unfortunately, we were late getting in, so I did not see. 00:07:04.260 --> 00:07:07.050 Avena was already having her match when we gone in. 00:07:07.050 --> 00:07:08.700 I didn't get to see who it was against. 00:07:08.700 --> 00:07:12.000 I couldn't notice, but, uh, it was Drake. 00:07:12.390 --> 00:07:15.240 Yeah, it was great and I'm, I'm excited for people to see it. 00:07:16.229 --> 00:07:21.030 Tim: Speaking of, uh, ring of my favorite show this year so far has 00:07:21.034 --> 00:07:22.680 been super, was super Card of honor. 00:07:22.770 --> 00:07:23.130 Oh fuck. 00:07:23.130 --> 00:07:25.469 If you haven't watched it, go outta your way and find it. 00:07:25.740 --> 00:07:27.180 However, pay for it. 00:07:27.180 --> 00:07:27.810 Don't pay for it. 00:07:27.810 --> 00:07:28.409 I don't care. 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:30.690 Just Tim, it's fantastic. 00:07:31.020 --> 00:07:33.090 And it kicked off. 00:07:33.630 --> 00:07:36.870 With Coman there, who is now Ali Elite. 00:07:37.320 --> 00:07:37.530 Oh yeah. 00:07:37.530 --> 00:07:40.890 And Triple Mega Champion. 00:07:41.789 --> 00:07:42.810 Mega champion. 00:07:43.940 --> 00:07:51.180 By now I've known for quite some time the amazingness of VIO because 00:07:51.460 --> 00:07:57.030 a few years ago, maybe even more than that, impacted some shows in. 00:07:57.465 --> 00:07:59.265 Mexico and he was on them. 00:07:59.805 --> 00:08:03.285 Uh, it's really hard for me to watch Lucha Libre to be honest. 00:08:03.285 --> 00:08:08.865 Like I, um, it's a lot of cluster fuck in my opinion, but I've seen some of 00:08:08.865 --> 00:08:11.745 his tripa matches and they were good. 00:08:12.345 --> 00:08:16.275 And he reminds, he reminds us of a 00:08:19.605 --> 00:08:22.335 who of a young Ray, mysterious, Jr. 00:08:23.085 --> 00:08:26.735 I was trying to get John to remember what you said the other day, but, 00:08:26.735 --> 00:08:29.975 uh, no, I said, uh, I gotta see 00:08:29.975 --> 00:08:30.535 John: you live happy. 00:08:33.345 --> 00:08:34.455 Tim: Uh, whatcha talking about? 00:08:35.835 --> 00:08:39.735 John: But no, I said the day I was like, imagine now. 00:08:40.245 --> 00:08:41.775 Versus like, prime Raymond. 00:08:42.525 --> 00:08:42.914 Tim: Yeah. 00:08:43.095 --> 00:08:43.455 Yeah. 00:08:43.515 --> 00:08:43.815 Like 00:08:43.815 --> 00:08:44.174 John: Monday 00:08:44.174 --> 00:08:45.135 Tim: nitro ray, mysterious. 00:08:45.135 --> 00:08:45.975 It would've been insane. 00:08:46.065 --> 00:08:46.455 It would've been 00:08:46.455 --> 00:08:46.815 John: insane. 00:08:46.845 --> 00:08:49.335 Like Monday Nitro slash ruthless aggression era. 00:08:49.335 --> 00:08:51.315 Ray Mysterio versus by Kingo Now. 00:08:52.185 --> 00:08:53.355 Would be nuts. 00:08:53.505 --> 00:08:56.835 Tim: I would've, I would've, uh, I would pay big money to see that. 00:08:56.835 --> 00:09:05.085 But Vigo is now, uh, I'm sure whoever listens to this knew that he was going 00:09:05.085 --> 00:09:09.855 to do a United States run with G C W Warrior Wrestling, uh, and some other 00:09:09.855 --> 00:09:16.995 promotions and didn't want his stuff being filmed or broadcast or streamed. 00:09:17.625 --> 00:09:24.255 And I don't know what happened, but apparently, They said no more because 00:09:24.825 --> 00:09:29.655 we got to see him on Super Card of Honor against Commander and it was one 00:09:29.660 --> 00:09:31.185 of the best matches of the evening. 00:09:31.815 --> 00:09:36.375 Since that time, uh, not only has he worked those indie shows, but we've 00:09:36.375 --> 00:09:39.045 seen him on Dynamite against Omega. 00:09:39.050 --> 00:09:44.715 Yeah, we've seen him on Ring of Honor against Ringo Loco and uh, I 00:09:44.715 --> 00:09:46.575 believe he had another match as well. 00:09:46.965 --> 00:09:50.745 But, uh, the guy's taking the United States by storm right now. 00:09:51.630 --> 00:09:53.520 John: He's on, he's on Rampage tonight. 00:09:53.699 --> 00:09:56.430 Against, um, against Charlie? 00:09:57.270 --> 00:09:57.510 Yeah. 00:09:57.599 --> 00:09:57.930 Tim: Yeah. 00:09:58.709 --> 00:09:59.819 Oh, wait, that's tonight? 00:09:59.939 --> 00:10:00.180 Yeah. 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:01.770 Because of basketball and shit. 00:10:01.849 --> 00:10:02.050 Mm-hmm. 00:10:02.520 --> 00:10:03.870 Ah, good, good. 00:10:03.870 --> 00:10:05.640 Cause I watched GC W last night. 00:10:05.670 --> 00:10:05.819 Mm-hmm. 00:10:06.060 --> 00:10:08.040 And I was like, watch Rampage another time. 00:10:08.640 --> 00:10:10.199 Uh, but that's on tonight. 00:10:10.740 --> 00:10:11.490 Fantastic. 00:10:12.209 --> 00:10:12.930 Treat for me. 00:10:14.280 --> 00:10:15.449 Uh, but I 00:10:15.449 --> 00:10:17.550 John: was, I was there, I was in the 00:10:17.550 --> 00:10:17.939 Tim: arena. 00:10:18.449 --> 00:10:18.870 Yeah. 00:10:18.930 --> 00:10:26.610 This influx of, of luchadors, uh, not just by Kingo, but you know, command there. 00:10:27.180 --> 00:10:29.880 Gringo, Locos finally getting some shine on him. 00:10:30.420 --> 00:10:33.270 Uh, it was really nice to see him in ro o h this week. 00:10:33.270 --> 00:10:35.490 And I believe you got to see him live. 00:10:35.610 --> 00:10:35.910 Yeah. 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:36.510 He 00:10:36.569 --> 00:10:41.385 John: faced, um, God, Damn Blake Christian. 00:10:41.385 --> 00:10:41.865 What is wrong? 00:10:41.895 --> 00:10:44.655 Yeah, he, he faced Blake Christian on Ring 00:10:44.655 --> 00:10:46.965 Tim: of Honor and we get to see Metal League on Ring of Honor. 00:10:46.965 --> 00:10:49.305 I don't know, I don't know what the 00:10:49.305 --> 00:10:50.445 John: format for Ring of Honor is. 00:10:50.445 --> 00:10:52.425 I don't know if that's gonna be on Thursday or next 00:10:52.425 --> 00:10:52.905 Tim: Thursday. 00:10:53.445 --> 00:10:54.015 Yeah, I don't know. 00:10:54.045 --> 00:10:54.135 Sure. 00:10:54.915 --> 00:10:57.765 But, um, you know, I like this. 00:10:57.765 --> 00:11:02.325 I like, I like what Ring of Honor is because we're seeing a w talent 00:11:02.355 --> 00:11:04.515 there get booked differently. 00:11:05.625 --> 00:11:06.615 A lot of times. 00:11:06.615 --> 00:11:10.245 There are some exceptions like Mark Sterling's group. 00:11:11.250 --> 00:11:16.350 The varsity athletes and the varsity athletes have been nothing but losers 00:11:17.010 --> 00:11:22.770 on both shows, which upsets me because Tony, because I, we like Josh Woods. 00:11:22.890 --> 00:11:23.189 Yeah. 00:11:23.370 --> 00:11:24.300 And Tony, I like Josh Woods. 00:11:24.300 --> 00:11:27.930 Tony NES could win a win one here and there, like they don't 00:11:27.930 --> 00:11:29.430 have to lose every damn match. 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:32.160 And then, but then you have the trust busted. 00:11:32.160 --> 00:11:33.569 I just hate more stories that much. 00:11:33.610 --> 00:11:38.700 Who, who were just, you know, Jobber on a W and they're actually 00:11:38.705 --> 00:11:40.680 like doing something with them. 00:11:41.280 --> 00:11:46.650 Uh, on Ring of Honor, like I would say Ring of Honor is based right now upon 00:11:46.655 --> 00:11:49.620 the kingdom, uh, against top flight. 00:11:49.830 --> 00:11:50.160 Yeah. 00:11:50.370 --> 00:11:52.440 And of course, you know, Dante Martin is gone. 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:56.010 So they have action Andre in there, which is perfect for action. 00:11:56.670 --> 00:11:57.060 Now. 00:11:57.270 --> 00:11:58.140 Perfection. 00:11:58.230 --> 00:12:01.680 Um, we have Athena holding it down. 00:12:01.680 --> 00:12:02.670 Samoa Joe. 00:12:03.329 --> 00:12:05.130 Uh, the Pure championship. 00:12:05.339 --> 00:12:05.610 Yeah. 00:12:05.640 --> 00:12:08.250 Which is being defended almost every week. 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:09.839 John: getting some shine 00:12:09.839 --> 00:12:10.140 Tim: on there. 00:12:10.199 --> 00:12:13.319 Ta Keta is getting the wins on Ring of Honor. 00:12:13.530 --> 00:12:16.620 I still don't know if he's ever had a win on a television. 00:12:16.740 --> 00:12:17.280 I think he has. 00:12:18.540 --> 00:12:20.849 Well, it went, it was a long time before he got one. 00:12:21.750 --> 00:12:21.930 Yeah. 00:12:21.930 --> 00:12:22.860 And we'll get to that. 00:12:22.865 --> 00:12:23.310 And, uh, we 00:12:23.310 --> 00:12:27.480 John: have, um, we got that this thing going on with the dark order. 00:12:27.870 --> 00:12:29.130 And Vincent's group. 00:12:29.400 --> 00:12:29.880 Tim: Yeah. 00:12:30.060 --> 00:12:31.770 It was nice to see the righteous. 00:12:32.040 --> 00:12:33.780 The righteous finally come back. 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:37.650 John: Seems It seems like they're targeting No, they were there. 00:12:38.010 --> 00:12:39.720 Tim: Vincent wants Stu Grayson, Vincent 00:12:39.890 --> 00:12:40.560 John: Grayson. 00:12:40.564 --> 00:12:43.290 And, um, little bit of a spoiler. 00:12:43.350 --> 00:12:48.270 When we were at Dyna White, uh, Grayson and Uno had a tag match. 00:12:48.660 --> 00:12:52.560 And Vincent, just, Vincent and his guy Dutch, what's his name? 00:12:52.650 --> 00:12:53.069 Dutch? 00:12:53.130 --> 00:12:53.550 Yeah. 00:12:53.550 --> 00:12:53.610 Yeah. 00:12:54.510 --> 00:12:56.760 Just, um, they were up on 00:12:56.960 --> 00:12:59.280 Tim: the stage watching in chairs. 00:12:59.280 --> 00:12:59.580 Yeah. 00:12:59.910 --> 00:13:00.240 Yeah. 00:13:01.380 --> 00:13:01.860 Vincent, 00:13:01.920 --> 00:13:05.220 John: uh, Vincent is cool. 00:13:05.699 --> 00:13:07.650 Yeah, Vincent has a very 00:13:07.770 --> 00:13:08.490 Tim: cool vibe. 00:13:08.730 --> 00:13:12.930 What's, what's, what's funny about Vincent is when he started this whole 00:13:12.930 --> 00:13:17.790 righteous thing, everyone was like, oh, he is just trying to be bra Wyatt. 00:13:19.410 --> 00:13:22.710 Well look at Bra Wyatt now. 00:13:23.670 --> 00:13:24.630 And look at Vincent. 00:13:26.010 --> 00:13:26.880 John: I kind of wish Bre 00:13:26.880 --> 00:13:27.610 Tim: was involved. 00:13:28.590 --> 00:13:31.590 I kinda wish Bra would've never became the fiend. 00:13:31.800 --> 00:13:35.490 I kind of wish Bra wouldn't have come up with all these things 00:13:35.550 --> 00:13:38.820 and just stayed cult leader like, 00:13:38.820 --> 00:13:40.500 John: yeah, I wish him and Eric were still together. 00:13:40.650 --> 00:13:41.970 Tim: It's all in some screwed up. 00:13:41.990 --> 00:13:42.430 Yeah. 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:49.410 Like his, his return is was, has just been abysmal I think. 00:13:51.315 --> 00:13:55.755 John: I hate to say it, I think Brody passing had a very big effect 00:13:55.755 --> 00:13:56.115 Tim: on him. 00:13:56.715 --> 00:13:57.495 Oh, definitely. 00:13:58.065 --> 00:14:05.775 But like they were so slow with his, his return and like, I dunno. 00:14:06.465 --> 00:14:08.805 John: So I'll tell you what, I liked Stroman a lot more when 00:14:08.805 --> 00:14:09.885 the white family was a thing 00:14:11.055 --> 00:14:11.625 Tim: for sure. 00:14:12.945 --> 00:14:13.545 You know why? 00:14:13.965 --> 00:14:14.775 Cause he didn't talk. 00:14:15.435 --> 00:14:15.735 Yeah. 00:14:16.125 --> 00:14:17.295 He didn't have a Twitter account. 00:14:18.825 --> 00:14:23.175 Um, but anyway, um, so yeah. 00:14:23.235 --> 00:14:28.695 Um, I used, I was afraid that Ring of Honor would just be like a c A W light. 00:14:28.935 --> 00:14:29.415 Yeah. 00:14:30.075 --> 00:14:32.985 And then I would be like, well then why is a w dark exist? 00:14:32.985 --> 00:14:37.005 But it's, it's, it's finding its own identity and, uh, the 00:14:37.005 --> 00:14:40.785 fact that Shabbat came back and is a pure champion, fuck Yeah. 00:14:40.785 --> 00:14:41.865 It's fantastic. 00:14:42.285 --> 00:14:42.975 Um, I 00:14:42.975 --> 00:14:46.955 John: kind of view it like, I kind of view it. 00:14:47.219 --> 00:14:53.390 The same way that I viewed F C W before it became an xt. 00:14:53.729 --> 00:14:54.000 Hmm. 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:56.910 Like it is its own thing, but it's still connected. 00:14:57.390 --> 00:14:58.890 Right, right. 00:14:58.949 --> 00:15:05.270 And I think if they can use Ring of Honor the same way WW used N XT at first, 00:15:06.689 --> 00:15:07.709 Tim: like Bobby, that'd be cool. 00:15:07.949 --> 00:15:08.280 John: Yeah. 00:15:08.640 --> 00:15:09.000 Yeah. 00:15:09.060 --> 00:15:09.270 That'd 00:15:09.270 --> 00:15:09.329 be 00:15:09.329 --> 00:15:09.599 Tim: cool. 00:15:09.839 --> 00:15:10.140 Yeah. 00:15:10.500 --> 00:15:15.840 I agree and that I did say like a super card felt like a black en gold show 00:15:15.990 --> 00:15:17.250 felt like a black en gold takeover. 00:15:17.250 --> 00:15:17.640 Yeah. 00:15:17.690 --> 00:15:17.810 Yeah. 00:15:17.815 --> 00:15:25.590 And then, um, another guy who's, who belongs in ro o h right now, I don't 00:15:25.595 --> 00:15:31.920 care what anyone says is Lee moi his match, that match in nuts because 00:15:31.920 --> 00:15:34.020 he was allowed to do his thing. 00:15:34.814 --> 00:15:36.555 He wasn't just like a member 00:15:36.555 --> 00:15:41.475 John: of the firm, the exact same fucking thing I said, I said that 00:15:41.475 --> 00:15:43.275 is the most limo already match. 00:15:43.275 --> 00:15:45.135 That limo has had since coming to Aw. 00:15:46.245 --> 00:15:46.574 Yeah. 00:15:46.995 --> 00:15:47.385 Tim: Yeah. 00:15:47.475 --> 00:15:48.975 Except like maybe his first one. 00:15:49.214 --> 00:15:49.454 Yeah. 00:15:49.755 --> 00:15:52.515 Which I think was, it was against, somebody's like super 00:15:52.515 --> 00:15:53.535 technical, I don't remember. 00:15:53.655 --> 00:15:54.055 Mm-hmm. 00:15:54.135 --> 00:15:58.665 John: But yeah, that match was amazing and they, and the fact that they followed that 00:15:58.665 --> 00:16:01.905 immediately with gringo and Vigo was nuts. 00:16:02.220 --> 00:16:02.550 Right. 00:16:03.275 --> 00:16:03.420 Tim: Right. 00:16:03.990 --> 00:16:09.480 I just, and it also seems like another thing that I like about it is with Loco 00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:18.750 on there, with vio, with, uh, Blake Christian, um, it seems like Tony Cohen 00:16:18.750 --> 00:16:22.320 is treating independent contractors, like real independent contractors. 00:16:22.520 --> 00:16:22.840 Yeah. 00:16:23.730 --> 00:16:24.940 You know, and giving 00:16:25.100 --> 00:16:26.370 ' John: em health insurance at the same time. 00:16:27.074 --> 00:16:27.615 How about it? 00:16:27.824 --> 00:16:34.214 Tim: Because we know and paying when we know Christian and Loco are Gc W. 00:16:34.214 --> 00:16:38.535 Staples, staples, staples major. 00:16:39.015 --> 00:16:42.375 Um, so yeah, bring of honor. 00:16:42.704 --> 00:16:46.365 If you're not washing it right now, change, uh, change your 00:16:46.365 --> 00:16:48.314 mind and give it a shot because. 00:16:48.945 --> 00:16:50.505 It's, it's, it's quite good. 00:16:50.625 --> 00:16:51.555 Even how Billy starts 00:16:51.555 --> 00:16:52.395 John: on there sometimes. 00:16:52.755 --> 00:16:53.115 Yeah. 00:16:53.475 --> 00:16:56.406 And, uh, Tony Shevani kinda let the cat out, cat out of 00:16:56.406 --> 00:16:58.245 the bag that, um, she's signed. 00:16:58.245 --> 00:16:59.295 Billy signed, yeah. 00:16:59.475 --> 00:17:00.085 Tim: Mm-hmm. 00:17:00.165 --> 00:17:00.565 Yeah. 00:17:01.275 --> 00:17:02.265 Great young talent. 00:17:02.475 --> 00:17:05.055 Uh, a lot of people can't wait for Nick Wayne to show up. 00:17:05.055 --> 00:17:11.685 A lot of people who don't follow G C W have only seen her on a w are like so 00:17:13.095 --> 00:17:15.255 enthralled, amazed at how she is Yeah. 00:17:15.255 --> 00:17:15.975 At her age. 00:17:16.035 --> 00:17:18.720 And I'm like, Where you guys been, bro. 00:17:18.725 --> 00:17:22.110 Like she's been killing the Indies for like two years and 00:17:22.110 --> 00:17:23.730 she just got back from Tokyo, 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:24.420 John: bro. 00:17:24.420 --> 00:17:26.069 Wait, wait till fucking Nick Lane shows up, man. 00:17:26.420 --> 00:17:27.010 Tim: Oh man. 00:17:27.015 --> 00:17:27.870 People aren't gonna know what hit him. 00:17:27.990 --> 00:17:31.780 I just hope they, I hope Jordan, 00:17:32.340 --> 00:17:32.760 John: Jordan Oliver. 00:17:34.020 --> 00:17:36.480 I hope they give him the young dumb broke music in. 00:17:36.870 --> 00:17:37.290 Yeah, 00:17:37.295 --> 00:17:38.070 Tim: that would be wild. 00:17:38.070 --> 00:17:40.620 Like I don't care if he's paired with Nick Wayne or not. 00:17:40.770 --> 00:17:42.260 Yeah, I just, I want. 00:17:43.514 --> 00:17:44.205 He deserves it. 00:17:44.325 --> 00:17:45.195 John: Yeah, I want good things. 00:17:45.195 --> 00:17:47.145 You want the east, west express together? 00:17:47.235 --> 00:17:47.475 I 00:17:47.475 --> 00:17:51.284 Tim: do, but even if they didn't, I still want good things for all over. 00:17:51.915 --> 00:18:00.254 But, um, anyways, so a w um, we're gonna talk about r o h and a W because 00:18:00.260 --> 00:18:02.034 that's what we mainly watch every week. 00:18:02.835 --> 00:18:05.715 I can tell you a lot of things about what's going on in Japan. 00:18:05.865 --> 00:18:07.185 I think it's the easiest to watch. 00:18:07.649 --> 00:18:09.840 I'm just gonna throw this little bit out there. 00:18:10.169 --> 00:18:15.700 Jake Lee left all Japan Pro wrestling and he is now the gc That's True Champion. 00:18:15.705 --> 00:18:15.870 Yeah. 00:18:16.169 --> 00:18:19.379 Apparently last doing it last weekend, he had an amazing 00:18:19.385 --> 00:18:21.419 match against, uh, Nakajima. 00:18:21.629 --> 00:18:22.830 I still haven't seen it yet. 00:18:23.340 --> 00:18:23.879 Um, 00:18:23.879 --> 00:18:25.110 John: my fucking dude, Sonata, 00:18:26.159 --> 00:18:32.909 Tim: that's Baby Sonata, changed his look, joined, uh, just four guys now they're 00:18:32.909 --> 00:18:34.770 just five guys with flipping burgers and. 00:18:35.699 --> 00:18:39.240 And, uh, he beat, he fi he beat Connor. 00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:44.280 And I'm so happy because like whether you, no matter what you think about 00:18:44.280 --> 00:18:47.429 Sonata and if you think, yo, he's still just a mid Carter and they 00:18:47.429 --> 00:18:48.560 gave it to him, blah, blah, blah. 00:18:49.110 --> 00:18:49.919 I don't give a shit. 00:18:50.610 --> 00:18:56.639 If that's what you think, it's still a good move because what is the main event? 00:18:57.149 --> 00:19:03.480 Every New Japan show, Sonata O' no Mito Osprey. 00:19:07.065 --> 00:19:07.905 He gets in there, right? 00:19:08.235 --> 00:19:09.255 Those four names. 00:19:09.345 --> 00:19:11.145 Well, I was gonna say white, white throw. 00:19:11.145 --> 00:19:13.425 Um, isn't in New Japan anymore. 00:19:13.485 --> 00:19:14.595 They, they'll throw shingle 00:19:14.600 --> 00:19:15.255 John: in sometimes. 00:19:15.375 --> 00:19:15.735 Tim: Right? 00:19:16.605 --> 00:19:18.675 Who is the king of pro wrestling right now? 00:19:18.675 --> 00:19:19.155 Fucking name. 00:19:19.215 --> 00:19:23.475 Uh, but, but like even before the title, we've always complained that 00:19:23.505 --> 00:19:25.095 the main event scene was always 00:19:25.185 --> 00:19:30.975 John: the main event scene was very thin, thin, and also repetitive. 00:19:31.544 --> 00:19:31.965 Yeah. 00:19:32.804 --> 00:19:34.425 WWE ish in that way. 00:19:34.695 --> 00:19:35.185 Tim: Yeah. 00:19:35.375 --> 00:19:35.864 John: Yeah. 00:19:36.344 --> 00:19:38.235 Like it's the same match every big show. 00:19:38.715 --> 00:19:39.254 Tim: Exactly. 00:19:39.254 --> 00:19:39.314 Yeah. 00:19:39.725 --> 00:19:49.905 And, and, um, yeah, it's just a not fresh air, don't champs. 00:19:50.264 --> 00:19:53.655 And they're, they're, they're so deserving, uh, they 00:19:53.925 --> 00:19:55.195 John: pulled their heads outta the asses. 00:19:56.114 --> 00:19:56.415 Something 00:19:56.415 --> 00:19:56.955 Tim: like that. 00:19:57.439 --> 00:19:59.715 Uh, I think we're gonna get that match again. 00:19:59.955 --> 00:20:00.044 Mm-hmm. 00:20:00.314 --> 00:20:01.094 Uh, this year. 00:20:02.190 --> 00:20:07.965 Um, but yeah, FDR pulled their heads outta their asses and, uh, signed a deal. 00:20:08.535 --> 00:20:14.595 Um, there's still things going on with another guy that the a w 00:20:14.745 --> 00:20:15.855 John: tag titles are back with. 00:20:15.855 --> 00:20:16.305 Abel Belong? 00:20:16.815 --> 00:20:17.264 Yes. 00:20:17.475 --> 00:20:17.985 With the top 00:20:17.985 --> 00:20:18.375 Tim: guess. 00:20:19.485 --> 00:20:24.254 Hey, you know, I have hopes for the guns or the ass boys dude, but 00:20:24.254 --> 00:20:26.565 it's, it's not their time right now. 00:20:26.565 --> 00:20:28.155 Nah, they're still young ass boys. 00:20:28.695 --> 00:20:35.325 I mean, I listened to, I listened to, uh, one of Jericho's podcasts from his 00:20:35.330 --> 00:20:43.995 crew, and, um, Austin was basically saying how he had to train Colton when 00:20:43.995 --> 00:20:49.085 Colton got into a w because Colton had a whole, yeah, whole nother thing 00:20:49.085 --> 00:20:50.445 that he thought he wanted to do. 00:20:50.445 --> 00:20:54.945 Then he decided to wrestle and, you know, Tony saw the money and 00:20:54.945 --> 00:20:59.115 the brothers, so Austin kind of had to teach Colton on the fly. 00:20:59.700 --> 00:21:01.110 So like there's nothing wrong with that. 00:21:01.110 --> 00:21:01.440 Yeah. 00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:06.270 That those, those boys have a lot of pressure on them and for what it's worth, 00:21:06.390 --> 00:21:09.930 especially with where they came from, they knock those things out of the park. 00:21:10.110 --> 00:21:13.530 It's just they need some more time and as long as 00:21:13.530 --> 00:21:16.920 John: ftr, the personality, the personality and the character is there. 00:21:17.120 --> 00:21:17.610 Yeah, 00:21:17.610 --> 00:21:18.410 Tim: they might be. 00:21:18.410 --> 00:21:18.810 Yeah. 00:21:19.430 --> 00:21:22.650 John: The in ring work needs to match with the character. 00:21:23.490 --> 00:21:23.910 Tim: Agreed. 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:24.960 Or match with the ego. 00:21:25.260 --> 00:21:25.740 Yes. 00:21:26.100 --> 00:21:26.490 John: Yes. 00:21:26.490 --> 00:21:27.540 Because the ego is good. 00:21:27.660 --> 00:21:29.040 The ego is classic. 00:21:29.399 --> 00:21:29.730 Good. 00:21:29.730 --> 00:21:30.090 Heal 00:21:30.090 --> 00:21:30.510 Tim: ego. 00:21:31.169 --> 00:21:38.580 Speaking of ego, um, page, no, I kinda, I kinda touched on it earlier. 00:21:38.709 --> 00:21:45.689 Ego J White J had the wrestling world wondering where he was gonna show up. 00:21:46.230 --> 00:21:48.179 Was it gonna be at super of honor? 00:21:48.540 --> 00:21:52.740 Was it gonna be at, uh, what was the show revolution? 00:21:53.639 --> 00:21:55.500 Uh, was he gonna be at revolution? 00:21:55.500 --> 00:21:56.580 Was he gonna be at mania? 00:21:56.580 --> 00:21:58.440 Was he gonna be at the raw after mania? 00:21:58.440 --> 00:21:58.500 Yeah. 00:21:58.500 --> 00:21:59.159 That's what a lot 00:21:59.159 --> 00:21:59.700 John: of people thought. 00:21:59.940 --> 00:22:02.040 And then a lot of people thought the rumble too. 00:22:03.750 --> 00:22:04.649 Tim: All these things. 00:22:04.980 --> 00:22:08.129 And he held out until a random ass 00:22:08.129 --> 00:22:08.460 John: dynamo. 00:22:08.520 --> 00:22:09.780 It was the smartest thing ever. 00:22:10.060 --> 00:22:12.510 He, he said nothing. 00:22:12.810 --> 00:22:13.139 Right. 00:22:13.379 --> 00:22:16.530 He was radio silent until he showed up somewhere. 00:22:17.129 --> 00:22:17.250 It 00:22:17.250 --> 00:22:17.940 Tim: was so good. 00:22:18.060 --> 00:22:19.020 It was so good. 00:22:19.110 --> 00:22:27.180 Uh, Right now, juice Robinson and Jay Whiter, rock Hard, the Bullet Club Gold 00:22:27.840 --> 00:22:35.040 and David Finley, who has been chosen by gto, uh, said whatever they're doing over 00:22:35.040 --> 00:22:37.470 in a a w is not part of the Bullet Club. 00:22:38.220 --> 00:22:38.820 And, 00:22:39.500 --> 00:22:39.990 John: okay, 00:22:41.940 --> 00:22:42.510 Tim: come on guy. 00:22:42.930 --> 00:22:43.500 Come on Guy. 00:22:43.740 --> 00:22:48.900 I mean, you got LP over there who they just kicked out because he didn't LP. 00:22:49.334 --> 00:22:51.044 Well, he didn't stand in line with Finley. 00:22:51.074 --> 00:22:52.274 He didn't believe in Finley. 00:22:52.304 --> 00:22:54.465 You better turn or both of gold. 00:22:54.764 --> 00:22:55.455 I'm hoping. 00:22:55.635 --> 00:22:56.415 That's what I'm hoping. 00:22:57.735 --> 00:23:03.824 Honestly, uh, in my opinion, if Jay White is claiming Bullet 00:23:03.830 --> 00:23:05.475 Club, that's where Bullet Club is. 00:23:06.314 --> 00:23:08.264 Uh, I don't really buy Finley 00:23:08.264 --> 00:23:11.024 John: because you never officially left and it was never officially 00:23:11.024 --> 00:23:12.165 Tim: like kicked out or anything. 00:23:12.165 --> 00:23:14.145 He got kicked out the same way everybody else did. 00:23:14.685 --> 00:23:16.784 Yeah, he got his ass whooped by the next guy. 00:23:18.045 --> 00:23:24.015 So, I mean, I guess he did, but, but he's still like the embodiment 00:23:24.345 --> 00:23:27.165 of, of that idea of that, yeah. 00:23:27.345 --> 00:23:28.665 Of that attitude. 00:23:28.755 --> 00:23:28.995 Mm-hmm. 00:23:29.325 --> 00:23:31.425 I'm not buying David Finley as it either. 00:23:31.425 --> 00:23:36.105 And I was really excited for Finley at first, but they didn't, they're 00:23:36.105 --> 00:23:42.795 not, they're, it seems like they don't know how they want to go 00:23:42.795 --> 00:23:45.975 about it, and maybe they're gonna address it at Forbidden Door. 00:23:47.295 --> 00:23:50.985 That would be interesting for me, uh, to see. 00:23:51.975 --> 00:23:59.145 But back to a w Our favorite guys, the Blackpool Combat Club, have 00:23:59.145 --> 00:24:03.255 turned shit heel and I love it. 00:24:03.260 --> 00:24:03.825 It's amazing. 00:24:05.145 --> 00:24:09.045 At first, everyone was wondering what Danielson would think because Danielson 00:24:09.050 --> 00:24:12.135 lost to MJF and took some time away. 00:24:12.660 --> 00:24:19.170 And just Moxley, UDA and Claudia turned into the three hyena from The Lion 00:24:19.170 --> 00:24:19.470 John: King. 00:24:19.710 --> 00:24:20.370 Yeah, for real. 00:24:20.910 --> 00:24:24.780 And like Brian, Brian's always had like this, she was 00:24:24.780 --> 00:24:29.400 thinking about, so it was very 00:24:29.970 --> 00:24:30.450 Tim: interesting. 00:24:31.170 --> 00:24:31.650 Yes. 00:24:31.740 --> 00:24:36.720 When he turned and he, he came out to like, help Omega, but then he 00:24:36.780 --> 00:24:38.220 hit him with the bus psycho knee. 00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:38.700 Mm-hmm. 00:24:38.945 --> 00:24:42.420 And now he's taken screwdrivers to people's heads. 00:24:42.780 --> 00:24:44.850 He's kinda like a manager. 00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:45.450 Yeah. 00:24:45.450 --> 00:24:51.629 I, I, um, but now with the recent happenings, uh, I imagine he'll 00:24:51.629 --> 00:24:53.070 be getting involved in the ring. 00:24:53.700 --> 00:24:57.870 So Bull uh, Blackpool Combat Club. 00:24:58.860 --> 00:24:59.760 Very angry. 00:25:00.525 --> 00:25:08.595 That the elite are seen as the top, top of a w. 00:25:08.600 --> 00:25:11.895 They're, they're upset with a lot of things about the elite. 00:25:11.925 --> 00:25:14.955 They're going after hangman page at dark order. 00:25:15.045 --> 00:25:15.795 John: Lemme ask you something. 00:25:17.265 --> 00:25:19.095 What does the e in the e w stand for? 00:25:20.985 --> 00:25:21.465 Elite. 00:25:21.990 --> 00:25:24.450 Tim: E E Elite suck it up. 00:25:24.659 --> 00:25:29.159 But John Moxley said we put the E in the leap, not you. 00:25:30.899 --> 00:25:31.050 I dunno. 00:25:32.010 --> 00:25:33.510 So they've been going after everybody. 00:25:33.514 --> 00:25:38.909 They even busted up Don Callis, who some of us thought was 00:25:38.909 --> 00:25:40.399 kind of orchestrating all this. 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:51.270 Uh, Dawn Callis, uh, in my opinion, is so good at being a slimy douche that. 00:25:51.659 --> 00:25:58.050 When he talked to Will Osprey on Dynamite a long time ago, I was like immediately 00:25:58.050 --> 00:26:00.449 like he's gonna leave Kenny for Will. 00:26:00.840 --> 00:26:01.710 And that didn't happen. 00:26:02.310 --> 00:26:06.360 And then whenever this stuff happened where he like kind of faked his stuff 00:26:06.360 --> 00:26:12.000 with Paige to keep Paige away from Omega, I'm like, oh, he's behind all this stuff. 00:26:12.689 --> 00:26:15.240 But what happened this past week? 00:26:16.350 --> 00:26:18.600 I don't really think so anymore. 00:26:19.630 --> 00:26:20.850 And you saw it live. 00:26:20.850 --> 00:26:21.090 Yeah. 00:26:21.090 --> 00:26:22.290 So let let 'em know. 00:26:23.280 --> 00:26:30.000 John: Well, there's been a lot of talk, a lot of rumors about, uh, callus 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:32.400 getting Tequesta involved with Omega. 00:26:33.870 --> 00:26:41.550 And finally, after much speculation this week on Dynamite, we saw 00:26:41.850 --> 00:26:44.590 Don Callus recruit Young Tek. 00:26:45.330 --> 00:26:48.240 To, uh, assist the via week when they were getting beat down by the 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:48.870 Tim: bcc. 00:26:49.470 --> 00:26:49.860 Yeah. 00:26:50.100 --> 00:26:57.240 Uh, TETA of course, uh, was the ace of d D t still wrestles for them sometimes. 00:26:57.240 --> 00:27:03.960 And Omega has a rich history with d D T and Callis on screen has been 00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:10.620 trying to court Keta to and to Keta has been in the middle with him. 00:27:10.830 --> 00:27:12.720 Like, kinda like, okay, I don't know. 00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:14.340 Uh, so. 00:27:15.325 --> 00:27:16.875 BCC were beating down the elite. 00:27:17.685 --> 00:27:20.745 Countless came down with a chair, thought that he was gonna do something, 00:27:21.105 --> 00:27:22.815 and then he got a better idea. 00:27:23.175 --> 00:27:24.885 But we just thought he was a chicken shit. 00:27:25.635 --> 00:27:29.565 And he's, he's trying to convince Tata at the ramp to go and help. 00:27:30.315 --> 00:27:33.855 As soon as Tata hit that ring, it was like a ball of fire. 00:27:34.065 --> 00:27:35.385 He was hitting everybody. 00:27:35.715 --> 00:27:38.835 And you could see on Danielson's face, and I know maybe you couldn't 00:27:39.135 --> 00:27:40.155 because you were there live. 00:27:40.155 --> 00:27:40.215 Yeah. 00:27:40.605 --> 00:27:42.405 Danielson looked. 00:27:43.260 --> 00:27:47.850 Frustrated and, and put on his heels like he Oh wow. 00:27:47.850 --> 00:27:50.610 He did not expect to Keta to be there. 00:27:50.730 --> 00:27:50.880 Yeah. 00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:51.840 No, that didn't come across. 00:27:51.900 --> 00:27:53.490 Now there's still people out there. 00:27:53.490 --> 00:27:53.700 If I was 00:27:53.700 --> 00:27:56.310 John: looking at the big tv, maybe, but no, I didn't 00:27:56.310 --> 00:27:56.700 Tim: notice. 00:27:56.730 --> 00:28:00.480 There's still people out there who think that Don Callus is still 00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:04.440 orchestrating it and that him and Tata are gonna go Blackpool Combat Club. 00:28:04.770 --> 00:28:07.230 But I don't, I don't see that happening and I don't like it. 00:28:07.830 --> 00:28:08.700 I don't like it at all. 00:28:09.510 --> 00:28:11.850 Unless they sign Coda at Bouchie. 00:28:13.020 --> 00:28:16.560 Hey, um, let's see here. 00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:19.740 Of course, we got the four pillar stuff going on, speaking 00:28:19.740 --> 00:28:19.800 of 00:28:19.800 --> 00:28:24.150 John: Coda at Bouchie, but for Mike Bailey Oh, was very 00:28:24.150 --> 00:28:24.480 Tim: good. 00:28:24.840 --> 00:28:25.440 Yes. 00:28:26.100 --> 00:28:27.840 That, that was one of my matches of the 00:28:27.840 --> 00:28:28.290 John: weekend. 00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:31.410 Not, not coda's, not, not to us, not Todas, first time in in 00:28:31.410 --> 00:28:33.450 America, but a very good show. 00:28:33.870 --> 00:28:34.590 Tim: Absolutely. 00:28:35.130 --> 00:28:40.440 Um, speaking of Mike Bailey, His matches against Jonathan Gresham with and G 00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:42.960 C W and Impact have been fantastic. 00:28:43.500 --> 00:28:43.620 BYO 00:28:43.620 --> 00:28:45.060 John: match at Spring Break? 00:28:45.540 --> 00:28:46.800 Yeah, all. 00:28:47.159 --> 00:28:49.440 Oh, all of Spring Break was fucking amazing. 00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:50.760 Spring Break was fantastic. 00:28:50.760 --> 00:28:53.520 Spring Break was my favorite show of mania. 00:28:53.520 --> 00:28:54.600 Weekend Super 00:28:54.605 --> 00:28:55.530 Tim: card of honor for me 00:28:56.159 --> 00:28:57.000 John: that was Mania can. 00:28:57.000 --> 00:28:57.659 Holy fuck. 00:28:58.409 --> 00:28:58.649 Okay. 00:28:58.649 --> 00:28:59.040 Yeah. 00:28:59.970 --> 00:29:01.980 Jeep Spring Break is my favorite show of 00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:02.800 Tim: the collective. 00:29:03.060 --> 00:29:03.420 Right. 00:29:03.810 --> 00:29:06.540 Those two shows really were like, yeah, the shit. 00:29:07.230 --> 00:29:10.260 Um, so yeah. 00:29:10.500 --> 00:29:16.410 So we got the main story going on in a w is, uh, mjf, who's a pillar 00:29:16.560 --> 00:29:21.570 of a w who's a champion, and, uh, Tony Kahn decided to pull the 00:29:21.570 --> 00:29:23.400 trigger on the four pillars match. 00:29:24.090 --> 00:29:29.760 Um, right now, uh, we've been getting a lot of in ringing promos Yeah. 00:29:29.760 --> 00:29:30.750 Between the four of them. 00:29:30.750 --> 00:29:31.500 And it's been. 00:29:32.610 --> 00:29:33.480 Pretty damn good. 00:29:34.080 --> 00:29:39.570 Uh, Darby Allen has been the most consistent on the microphone and 00:29:39.929 --> 00:29:43.740 in my opinion, deserves to be on the microphone more often. 00:29:44.399 --> 00:29:44.610 John: Yeah. 00:29:44.639 --> 00:29:45.179 Sammy Guo. 00:29:45.510 --> 00:29:46.020 I like it. 00:29:46.020 --> 00:29:47.879 I like Darby's really coming into his own. 00:29:47.879 --> 00:29:48.330 Tim: Finally. 00:29:48.929 --> 00:29:49.260 Yeah. 00:29:49.500 --> 00:29:53.040 Uh, well, I think he's gonna get, he's given the opportunity. 00:29:53.220 --> 00:29:56.610 Yeah, that's, that's the difference now, jungle boy. 00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:00.090 He's given, he's been given the opportunity and sometimes he knocks 00:30:00.090 --> 00:30:03.030 it outta the park and sometimes he comes up a little short. 00:30:03.180 --> 00:30:03.810 In my opinion. 00:30:04.830 --> 00:30:06.750 There's something about him that's, what do you think this week? 00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:09.570 I, I mean, on promos. 00:30:09.630 --> 00:30:10.080 Yeah, I know. 00:30:10.590 --> 00:30:17.910 Um, this week, honestly, the promos didn't really need to happen. 00:30:18.300 --> 00:30:18.450 Yeah. 00:30:18.660 --> 00:30:20.580 I think we're past the point of talking. 00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:24.240 Uh, it, it's now at the point where, Things have to 00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:25.679 start going into action mode. 00:30:25.740 --> 00:30:29.520 And that's exactly what they did by the end of the show because 00:30:30.149 --> 00:30:35.310 they had a tournament of pillar tournament and whoever wins the 00:30:35.310 --> 00:30:37.530 pillar tournament goes against mjf. 00:30:37.740 --> 00:30:37.860 Yes. 00:30:37.889 --> 00:30:39.270 So tournament with three people. 00:30:39.929 --> 00:30:42.659 Well, somebody had feet, they had to pick a name out of the hat to 00:30:42.659 --> 00:30:44.310 get the buy, and it was Darby. 00:30:44.639 --> 00:30:49.260 So Sammy verse Jungle boy, and what the hell is going on? 00:30:49.990 --> 00:30:50.470 What do you mean? 00:30:50.750 --> 00:30:53.160 MJF gives a blank check to Sammy Guro. 00:30:53.190 --> 00:30:53.430 Yeah. 00:30:56.280 --> 00:31:00.210 I mean, what does, does MJF see Sammy as the least threatening? 00:31:01.230 --> 00:31:01.770 For sure. 00:31:03.540 --> 00:31:04.200 Absolutely. 00:31:04.740 --> 00:31:11.160 Because he's a heel, or like, I don't, I don't know. 00:31:11.700 --> 00:31:15.810 I, I don't like this and I know it's not gonna ha. 00:31:15.899 --> 00:31:18.810 It's not gonna, in my opinion, it's not gonna lead to anything. 00:31:19.020 --> 00:31:19.169 Yeah. 00:31:19.169 --> 00:31:21.179 Cause we're gonna get a fatal four-way. 00:31:21.330 --> 00:31:21.570 Yeah. 00:31:22.199 --> 00:31:27.270 Like it, this whole torment thing is a nice way to take up 00:31:27.270 --> 00:31:28.980 time before doubling nothing 00:31:29.820 --> 00:31:30.480 John: in my opinion. 00:31:30.629 --> 00:31:33.240 Well, they got some time to take ups the thing too. 00:31:33.330 --> 00:31:35.129 Tim: So now here's the question. 00:31:35.730 --> 00:31:39.510 Do you think it's time for one of the other pillars to 00:31:39.780 --> 00:31:41.909 Deone Maxwell, Jacob Friedman? 00:31:43.630 --> 00:31:44.220 John: I don't know. 00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:45.330 It's hard to say. 00:31:45.390 --> 00:31:47.490 If it is, if it's anybody. 00:31:50.100 --> 00:31:53.250 I feel like it kinda should be gra. 00:31:55.260 --> 00:31:55.860 Why? 00:31:57.120 --> 00:32:03.240 Well, cause he's like legitimate day one match one of 00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:03.870 Tim: a w. 00:32:04.770 --> 00:32:05.970 See, I would go with Darby. 00:32:06.675 --> 00:32:07.935 I understand, but I'm 00:32:07.935 --> 00:32:08.745 John: still, I'm just saying 00:32:08.745 --> 00:32:11.985 Tim: like, because you got kids painting themselves up as Darby, you 00:32:11.985 --> 00:32:16.155 got, I mean, yeah, you got like the endorsements from different places. 00:32:16.155 --> 00:32:17.535 Darby, you got Yeah. 00:32:17.595 --> 00:32:20.115 The guy who can rocket on a mic. 00:32:20.115 --> 00:32:20.415 Darby. 00:32:20.685 --> 00:32:21.795 John: No, I understand all that. 00:32:21.800 --> 00:32:26.055 I'm just wondering when, I'm kind of starting to wonder when Sammy 00:32:26.175 --> 00:32:29.505 Grava is going to get the reward for. 00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:34.680 Being the, like the main writer Die a w guy for 00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:35.520 Tim: as long as he has been. 00:32:36.600 --> 00:32:37.080 Okay. 00:32:38.040 --> 00:32:39.000 I'm gonna say this. 00:32:40.410 --> 00:32:42.660 All of them will have the title at some point. 00:32:42.870 --> 00:32:43.200 Yeah. 00:32:44.490 --> 00:32:48.780 I do not think MJF loses it to any of them. 00:32:50.610 --> 00:32:56.670 Uh, I could see, like he said, a whole year of a reign of terror. 00:32:57.120 --> 00:32:57.360 Yeah. 00:32:57.690 --> 00:33:08.760 Um, Now I know, I know that John doesn't want to talk about this, but I would 00:33:08.760 --> 00:33:11.909 be remiss if I didn't bring it up. 00:33:13.169 --> 00:33:20.760 There's a lot of rumors about an a w Saturday show and a RO and a brand split. 00:33:21.120 --> 00:33:21.360 Yeah. 00:33:21.360 --> 00:33:21.510 Do 00:33:21.510 --> 00:33:25.080 John: you, do you understand my stance that none of those rumor are coming 00:33:25.080 --> 00:33:26.820 from anyone involved with a e W? 00:33:29.490 --> 00:33:31.020 Tim: Still, there are a lot of talk. 00:33:31.679 --> 00:33:36.720 There's a lot of talk, and I wanted to say a lot of talk that I, 00:33:36.725 --> 00:33:40.020 that's all it's, I'm saying this. 00:33:41.580 --> 00:33:46.649 If you're gonna have a Saturday show, take away dark and dark elevation. 00:33:48.060 --> 00:33:49.200 It's too much wrestling. 00:33:50.040 --> 00:33:51.330 One of the main reasons. 00:33:53.385 --> 00:33:56.295 Well, there's a lot of main reasons, but one of the main reasons I stopped 00:33:56.295 --> 00:33:58.665 watching ww e was cuz I felt Overkilled. 00:33:58.935 --> 00:33:59.205 Yeah. 00:34:01.215 --> 00:34:07.665 Second, if you're gonna spread up the brand, it should be to 00:34:07.665 --> 00:34:12.045 maximize the exposure of talent. 00:34:12.295 --> 00:34:12.905 Mm-hmm. 00:34:13.005 --> 00:34:17.114 That is, you know, a lot of people have complained over the years. 00:34:17.925 --> 00:34:23.475 Little, the little three and a half to four years that a's roster is bloated. 00:34:24.225 --> 00:34:25.635 I, I've been saying 00:34:25.665 --> 00:34:27.615 John: it's always been the ridiculous fucking 00:34:28.095 --> 00:34:31.575 Tim: opinion, but, but at the same time, there is some merit there. 00:34:32.235 --> 00:34:34.425 But now you got Ring of Honor, right? 00:34:34.425 --> 00:34:34.665 Yeah. 00:34:34.965 --> 00:34:38.745 You got Rampage, you got, you got dynamite. 00:34:39.375 --> 00:34:42.525 If you're gonna add a Saturday show, and even if you don't, if you're 00:34:42.525 --> 00:34:45.555 gonna split, split, split the brand. 00:34:46.935 --> 00:34:53.084 It should be for talent exposure and not because your employees can't get along. 00:34:54.824 --> 00:35:00.944 Yeah, I'm not taking anyone's side here on our show or in general. 00:35:01.634 --> 00:35:02.115 I still 00:35:02.115 --> 00:35:03.345 John: don't think any of it's real. 00:35:05.174 --> 00:35:06.044 Like in general. 00:35:06.165 --> 00:35:06.645 Tim: In general. 00:35:07.185 --> 00:35:07.334 I don't. 00:35:07.334 --> 00:35:09.915 You mean him coming back or like everything that happened. 00:35:09.944 --> 00:35:10.694 Everything that happened. 00:35:10.904 --> 00:35:11.294 You think it's 00:35:11.515 --> 00:35:11.794 John: okay? 00:35:11.794 --> 00:35:12.154 Fabe? 00:35:12.285 --> 00:35:13.314 I don't think it's okay. 00:35:13.314 --> 00:35:13.634 Fabe. 00:35:13.634 --> 00:35:15.194 I think it's all. 00:35:16.290 --> 00:35:16.770 Blown out 00:35:16.770 --> 00:35:17.589 Tim: of proportion. 00:35:20.729 --> 00:35:21.390 Majorly. 00:35:21.660 --> 00:35:21.930 Yeah. 00:35:22.620 --> 00:35:24.779 It's majorly blown out of proportion. 00:35:25.290 --> 00:35:30.720 What we saw that night was a man who just got the title back on him, who knew 00:35:31.229 --> 00:35:34.950 that he was gonna have to relinquish it again because he knew he got injured. 00:35:35.250 --> 00:35:35.520 Yeah. 00:35:37.180 --> 00:35:42.390 And a man who was, he was reading dirt sheets and getting information 00:35:42.750 --> 00:35:44.910 about something that happened that he. 00:35:45.860 --> 00:35:51.360 Threw away six years prior or something like that. 00:35:52.380 --> 00:35:54.930 So he was a pissed off old man. 00:35:55.530 --> 00:35:55.800 Yeah. 00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:57.450 John: And he knew people were gonna shit on him. 00:35:58.020 --> 00:35:58.350 Tim: Right. 00:35:58.770 --> 00:36:07.110 And you know, I did see a tweet from DAX that said everybody should just make up 00:36:07.110 --> 00:36:09.510 and apologize and punk agreed with them. 00:36:10.080 --> 00:36:10.680 So it, and 00:36:10.680 --> 00:36:11.920 John: I said, everybody. 00:36:13.125 --> 00:36:13.964 Who's everybody? 00:36:15.884 --> 00:36:21.524 Tim: Well, I mean there, there has to be some type of mutual thing because here, 00:36:22.305 --> 00:36:26.955 John: do you think Kenny should apologize Kenny who got attacked and by a human man? 00:36:32.354 --> 00:36:36.915 Tim: Maybe in the sense of we shouldn't have come to your locker room that 00:36:36.915 --> 00:36:37.154 John: night. 00:36:37.604 --> 00:36:39.104 We shouldn't have done what you told us to do. 00:36:39.134 --> 00:36:39.375 No. 00:36:39.524 --> 00:36:41.055 That, that was dumb of us to do 00:36:41.234 --> 00:36:41.384 Tim: that. 00:36:41.384 --> 00:36:41.774 Sorry. 00:36:42.765 --> 00:36:44.865 We're sorry we came down to your level. 00:36:45.134 --> 00:36:46.154 Yeah, exactly. 00:36:46.274 --> 00:36:46.605 John: Yeah. 00:36:46.605 --> 00:36:47.174 Mm-hmm. 00:36:47.475 --> 00:36:47.745 Yeah. 00:36:49.815 --> 00:36:50.024 Tim: Yeah. 00:36:50.595 --> 00:36:56.145 Sam Punk needs to be humbled before he gets another chance at wrestling. 00:36:56.535 --> 00:37:01.185 Uh, in my opinion, and I've been a punk fan my whole, the whole time 00:37:01.185 --> 00:37:02.714 I've known Me too, his existence. 00:37:02.714 --> 00:37:03.134 Me too. 00:37:03.254 --> 00:37:08.055 But the man needs to show some fucking humility, uh, and. 00:37:08.775 --> 00:37:11.055 If that doesn't happen, you wanna end up playing Miro? 00:37:11.175 --> 00:37:11.595 I don't. 00:37:11.805 --> 00:37:15.884 I don't give a rat's ass if you make another show. 00:37:15.884 --> 00:37:18.045 Just, just so you could have him. 00:37:18.045 --> 00:37:22.875 So you could have him versus Jericho and whatever. 00:37:23.325 --> 00:37:27.975 No, I want you all to make up and I want you all to wrestle each other. 00:37:28.425 --> 00:37:34.275 I have four months leading up to all in, in my head just for them. 00:37:34.710 --> 00:37:38.160 And how they could sell out that show, or at least get close to it. 00:37:38.339 --> 00:37:39.180 I need people to start 00:37:39.299 --> 00:37:39.900 John: putting respect 00:37:39.900 --> 00:37:40.589 Tim: on Jericho's name. 00:37:42.299 --> 00:37:45.390 It's not that I don't wanna see Jericho wrestle anymore, it's that 00:37:45.390 --> 00:37:47.160 I don't wanna see Jericho and punk. 00:37:47.430 --> 00:37:51.029 I saw two Jericho and punk programs and wwe. 00:37:52.589 --> 00:37:53.040 They need. 00:37:54.030 --> 00:37:55.050 To bury the hatchet. 00:37:55.050 --> 00:37:56.640 John: What makes you think it's gonna be Jericho and punk? 00:37:56.640 --> 00:37:57.120 The first 00:37:57.120 --> 00:37:59.250 Tim: fucking, because that's, cuz that's what the rumors are. 00:37:59.730 --> 00:38:00.780 John: None of that is real. 00:38:01.710 --> 00:38:04.410 Tim: Because Jericho said that he would be the liaison 00:38:04.410 --> 00:38:07.410 between him and everybody else. 00:38:07.410 --> 00:38:09.960 He would be willing to go talk and, and la la 00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:10.080 la 00:38:10.080 --> 00:38:12.240 John: la Well that's, that's Jericho being And Jericho. 00:38:12.600 --> 00:38:12.960 Tim: Yeah. 00:38:13.530 --> 00:38:14.640 A fucking professional. 00:38:14.790 --> 00:38:15.120 Yeah. 00:38:16.350 --> 00:38:19.230 The most professional, professional, sorry, Brian Myers. 00:38:20.820 --> 00:38:24.330 Jericho's the best brother, brother in the history of breast. 00:38:25.410 --> 00:38:31.350 Um, but yeah, you know it, if you're gonna do the brand split, it should 00:38:31.350 --> 00:38:36.000 be for talent, explode exposure, not because children can't get along. 00:38:36.690 --> 00:38:41.490 And yes, I mean to say that because if this was, if they were professionals, 00:38:42.420 --> 00:38:44.250 they would be able to get over it. 00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:48.540 Um, I don't, I don't give a fuck who that's about, you know? 00:38:48.915 --> 00:38:51.075 And I don't care if you're like, oh, the elite. 00:38:51.105 --> 00:38:52.035 Oh see punk. 00:38:52.575 --> 00:38:53.115 Fuck that. 00:38:53.385 --> 00:38:54.495 They're all grown ass men. 00:38:56.565 --> 00:38:57.765 Do what's best for business. 00:38:58.125 --> 00:38:58.395 Yeah. 00:39:02.475 --> 00:39:04.645 John: And with that, oh, is that it? 00:39:05.205 --> 00:39:05.535 I think so. 00:39:05.725 --> 00:39:06.085 Yeah. 00:39:06.085 --> 00:39:06.406 That's it. 00:39:07.095 --> 00:39:10.635 Didn't you wanna talk about, did you talk about everything you wanna talk about? 00:39:10.635 --> 00:39:11.835 Like cango and everything? 00:39:12.615 --> 00:39:12.885 Yeah. 00:39:12.885 --> 00:39:14.235 We talked about my kingo first. 00:39:14.235 --> 00:39:14.885 I know we did. 00:39:14.885 --> 00:39:15.565 No we didn't. 00:39:15.675 --> 00:39:16.325 Yes, we did. 00:39:16.325 --> 00:39:17.245 It wasn't like in the 00:39:17.245 --> 00:39:17.405 Tim: middle. 00:39:17.505 --> 00:39:18.285 Who knows? 00:39:18.884 --> 00:39:20.774 Not me, it's Saturday afternoon. 00:39:20.805 --> 00:39:22.424 We're both tired and fat. 00:39:22.964 --> 00:39:23.234 So 00:39:25.424 --> 00:39:29.444 John: I went and saw a fucking, I went and saw Gabriel yesterday. 00:39:30.404 --> 00:39:33.884 Yeah, uh, we got there at 10. 00:39:35.504 --> 00:39:37.274 Gabriel hit the stage at 1115. 00:39:37.930 --> 00:39:41.070 You didn't get out until two and did not leave the stage until 1 45. 00:39:41.695 --> 00:39:41.759 Yeah. 00:39:43.049 --> 00:39:43.170 Yeah. 00:39:43.230 --> 00:39:45.930 So I'm, I'm, I'm done. 00:39:47.470 --> 00:39:48.009 Tim: I'm done. 00:39:48.080 --> 00:39:48.570 Done. 00:39:48.779 --> 00:39:49.680 That's what I was saying. 00:39:49.685 --> 00:39:53.130 You were like, yes, I'm, I'm done 00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:55.080 John: fast. 00:39:55.770 --> 00:39:58.930 Tim: That's how it goes, baby bullshiting bullshit. 00:39:58.930 --> 00:39:59.970 We ain't done this in a while. 00:39:59.970 --> 00:40:01.500 You ain't, you're not used to that. 00:40:01.560 --> 00:40:01.799 Right. 00:40:02.910 --> 00:40:06.390 Anyway, uh, wherever you are in the world, whether it's morning, noon, 00:40:06.390 --> 00:40:07.920 or night, you have a great one. 00:40:07.980 --> 00:40:11.460 And peace and love to all of you, to all of you. 00:40:11.680 --> 00:40:12.170 Bang. 00:40:13.050 --> 00:40:17.550 John: Also keep the hat Wrestler's Lab, wrestler's Lab. 00:40:18.810 --> 00:40:22.020 We are, uh, sponsoring Wrestler's Lab. 00:40:22.020 --> 00:40:26.580 Upcoming show in New Kensington, uh, seven years of science. 00:40:26.580 --> 00:40:28.470 It's the seventh anniversary of Russell's lab. 00:40:29.294 --> 00:40:30.345 Um, Vy. 00:40:30.345 --> 00:40:31.185 Young's gonna be there. 00:40:31.185 --> 00:40:32.714 I O'Neal's gonna be there. 00:40:33.375 --> 00:40:35.415 Uh, Erica Lee is gonna be there. 00:40:35.415 --> 00:40:35.955 Hong Kong. 00:40:36.765 --> 00:40:38.205 There's gonna be a lot of great indie talent. 00:40:39.165 --> 00:40:39.585 Uh, 00:40:39.585 --> 00:40:44.355 Tim: what's up Also, shout out to Da Donny boy. 00:40:44.895 --> 00:40:50.654 Uh, the, the man who did, uh, the theme song for Inside the Indies. 00:40:50.895 --> 00:40:53.865 He just dropped a new album called The House Show. 00:40:54.600 --> 00:40:56.660 It's on all streaming platforms. 00:40:56.665 --> 00:40:58.560 I use Spotify, so that's where I hear it. 00:40:58.950 --> 00:41:00.029 Uh, check it out. 00:41:00.270 --> 00:41:02.160 It's really, really good hip hop. 00:41:02.609 --> 00:41:06.330 Um, yeah, so we're back. 00:41:07.170 --> 00:41:08.279 We're not gonna be weekly. 00:41:08.700 --> 00:41:11.910 We might not even be biweekly, but we're still alive. 00:41:12.600 --> 00:41:13.470 We're still watching rest. 00:41:13.470 --> 00:41:13.620 John: Yeah. 00:41:13.620 --> 00:41:16.290 We wanna shoot we at least monthly. 00:41:16.560 --> 00:41:17.069 Yeah, we wanna be 00:41:17.290 --> 00:41:17.879 Tim: at least monthly. 00:41:17.879 --> 00:41:19.710 Yeah, yeah, for sure. 00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:20.339 At least 00:41:20.345 --> 00:41:20.609 John: monthly. 00:41:20.609 --> 00:41:22.140 I'd like to shoot for biweekly. 00:41:22.950 --> 00:41:23.860 But see what happens. 00:41:23.860 --> 00:41:24.380 Who knows? 00:41:26.160 --> 00:41:28.410 But yeah, uh, that's it for us.