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Casey

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mayy well welcome back to another

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in touch with the right person so on

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this episode Casey we have a gentleman

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that I've known for 20 something 20

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years yeah 20 years uh waade uh is it

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least or L people like to pronounce it

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seven different ways depends on where

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you're from but uh it's actually neither

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oh yeah

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that's why I did it I hope it's

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something off it's something way

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different let's go it's le le it is way

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different it is way different I've

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always called him least that's all right

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I have really I mean I half my family

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quit correcting people and just go with

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it now so it's fine well Wade is the

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reigning

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2020 what are we in five

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20242 LMA livestock auctioner Champion

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um world champion oh wait excuse me

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world champion yeah so Jay is

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international he's world I don't know

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what's better but I know you know but it

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way Jay was also third the other day

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wasn't he or something like or sixth or

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something yeah there was a contest in

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Texas yeah he come down and thought he

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was going to you know clean up and end

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up third yeah you know that's just

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that's the way it goes down here in

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Texas and boys from Montana he's going

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to kill us maybe if he' had known a

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judge or to it would help oh that would

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have helped either that would have

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helped or he'd have been sixth if he

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it's only political if you lose right so

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but we met at worldwide College of

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auctioneers um back in 2004 in Mason

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City Iowa actually done way better than

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you he's done way better than me he has

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done way better than me but uh anyways

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we we formed a friendship there and we

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talk about it a lot in this in this

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indry it's about relationships and

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friendships and this is one of them

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that's been we've been friends for a

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long time kept in touch over from

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completely different world like yeah

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like I don't think you can get any

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further apart than where we're from cuz

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you live in Wala walala Michigan or

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something like that and then I'm South

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Texas so so where where are you from

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where what town are you live my

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hometown's Boyne City and it's at the

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very top of the lower Peninsula of

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Michigan I'm three miles from Lake

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Michigan we're surrounded by water and

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golf golf courses and ski resorts and

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handful of livestock too my own my

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parents own a market up there in gayer

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Michigan okay tell us a little bit about

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yourself where you come from what you've

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done what you do um just kind of fill us

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in this kind of just informative we I'm

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a farm boy I I grew up on a farm uh my

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my parents my grandparents they had

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couple hundred head of brw cows had a

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big had a big uh stable of riding horses

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that they leased out to summer camps and

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stuff like that I went to uh high school

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and I just I I didn't see a path for me

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in the livestock industry or farming

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industry I was just going to go to

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college and get a degree in business or

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something and go take off and do

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something different and I was I was uh

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lucky enough to get recruited to go play

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some sports in college so uh went and

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did that and come back and found myself

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back is that like LaCrosse or something

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no uh uh swimming can you believe no I

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can't swim I can't swim with a lick no

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uh football and baseball pretty

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traditional yeah oh yeah very

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traditional everybody's like did you

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grow up playing or uh doing any rodeo

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events like no no for you folks down

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south brood cows are just like cows cow

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it's cow c operations just you know

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that's just dual purpose I'm like well

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you know it's just it's an or thing

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whatever you know so then what did you

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do after college I mean what I went

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right back to the farm I just I I went

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to the farm and worked with my grandpa

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for a number of years and uh I did

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decide that since I went to college I

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should probably put that to use so I

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kind of had this uh side it was at that

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time it was kind of a side gig I worked

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in law enforcement part-time just had a

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couple little city departments that

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brought me on and I'd like fill in for

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them couple days here and there and then

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uh after my grandpa pass pass away I

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went in law enforcement full-time for

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about 10 years but kept the auction

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industry always as that thing that was

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like on the side that I would do so if I

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was if I had a weekend offer whatever

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there was probably an auction on it I

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started doing a lot of charity auctions

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and we started doing some equipment

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auctions or kept doing some equipment

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auctions and so I had the auction

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industry working on one side and then in

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2018 I realized it had kind of outpaced

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what I was doing in law enforcement and

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I wanted to dedicate some more time to

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it quit hitting my head on the ceiling

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so so uh so I just I I retired from law

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enforcement and went into Auctioneer

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full-time that's all it's like Super

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Troopers there was a lot yeah yeah there

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there was a lot of things that I did uh

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in law enforcement that related to that

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movie it's wild that like that's two

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vastly different worlds well there was a

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lot of similarities so the last three

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and a half years that I was there I was

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the I was the detective supervisor and

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did a lot of uh criminal investigations

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a lot of interviews and things like that

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and learned a lot about personel alties

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different types of personalities and and

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what motivates people and what

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rationalizations they use and that kind

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of thing and I found that actually

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there's a lot of human behavior that you

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can study that helps you in the

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auctioneering industry especially if

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you're talking about you know doing a

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room that's or doing an auction in room

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it's got a thousand people like what

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makes a thousand people respond to what

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you're doing how do you you know what

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words do you use words are important

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like how do you how do you use those I'm

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blown away I love this I did not know

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that you did okay so so kind of give us

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some examples of that like like where

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like some different things that you've

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done over your time I guess well I've

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I've been in some big rooms where you do

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you know maybe there's a thousand people

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in the room for a charity auction and uh

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just knowing that ahead of time you kind

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of treat them like cattle really like

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you put some pressure behind them and

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then open a gate in front of them

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they're going to go into it so if you

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got a thousand people and you just let

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them kind of have their own uh

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experience and you don't have any

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guidelines or any pressure on them

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they're going to stay and do what's best

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for them as which is going to be talking

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and and uh you know uh taking up their

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their own time they're not going to

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dedicate it to you so if you put a

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little pressure and open the gate

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towards something else and then give

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them a reason to support something they

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act in kind so I mean that's one of them

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then if you're on the stage uh or even

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in in the in the livestock industry uh

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selling cattle like it you know it's the

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word you use if I'm you know there's a

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producer I I've had buyers say I don't

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know why you explained them cattle so

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much to me I know them better than you

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do like yeah I know I'm not talking to

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you though I'm talking to the producers

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sitting right behind you I want them to

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know that they got good cattle yeah I

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want them to know they did a good job

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you know mean yeah and that I mean that

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does I mean whatever I I get wrapped I

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love auctions and like like charity

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auctions my wife and I go to like the

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junior livestock auctions and things

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like that we we decide that's where

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we're going to give back our yeah our

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money I guess you'd say is I mean this

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has very always been very important to

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me and so it got me to where I'm at so

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we give back to there and I always go in

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there and I'm like I'm going to spend

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you know not very much or this much and

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I always spend twice as much as I

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thought I was going to yeah so $2 yeah

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yeah yeah up from one but it's wild like

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you you the way you talk about I mean I

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guess probably really good auctioneers

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probably get people to spend the heck of

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a lot more obviously well if if somebody

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asks you to do something if they ask you

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to give or if they ask you to donate

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there's always push back like would you

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donate there's always a push back but if

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you said something would you consider a

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gift you know we'd all consider it yeah

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next thing you know you're you're coming

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forward with it yeah you know

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so yeah that I don't know that kind of

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stuff was really interesting to me and

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then like I said talking to producers I

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really feel like a producer is the one

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that hires and fires you it it never

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seems to be the barn owner it never

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seems to be a buyer it's always a

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producer and so if some if somebody else

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uh doesn't like what you're doing and

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wants to get rid of you and the producer

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goes with you you'll probably be back

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pretty soon you know so so making a

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producer feel good making them feel like

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they've done a good job and that they're

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important to you at that moment that's

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you know that's meaning meanful stuff to

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me yeah that's pretty cool stuff pretty

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good stuff yeah I'm just still I'm still

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like the connection between the law

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enforcement I mean it was blown away I

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well he he was talking about criminals

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and you kind of lit

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up like I can read a room like well what

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are we going to do now yeah what's going

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on so so how long did you compete before

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you won the World um how many did you

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two years five years nine years n years

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yeah so I persistent wen't you the yes

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the first qualifier I went to was in

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Florida in 2014 in October and I had

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gone to the greater Midwest contest one

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time and I kind of caught the bug like

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man this is fun and and it helps you

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improve uh go to a contest number one

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you're promoting the industry number two

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you have somebody that can give you an

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unbiased opinion to say here's what we

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liked or didn't like or here's where you

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stack up amongst others and then I can

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determine you know when they tell me if

283
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I stacked up behind somebody else I can

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I can look and see that what they did

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differently that maybe I could work on

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so it gives you a it really gives a good

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portal to get feedback to improve so

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you're saying you're a slow learner I

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was yes I was a very slow learner but it

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took steps so the so I went there 14 I

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was able to qualify for the worlds um if

292
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you're not familiar with that contest

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they have three smaller contests that uh

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the top 10 the top 10 finishers then go

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to the world contest wherever that might

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be but it's in June every year and then

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the 31st contestant comes from the

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Canadian contest the international one

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at Calgary Calgary Stampede so anyway I

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went to qualified the first year next

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year I went back and I felt like you not

302
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that it was a foregone conclusion but I

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kind of had you know kind of been there

304
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done that let's get this behind me and

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I'll go qualify and go and went to two

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qualifiers and and got kicked out of

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both of them you know it didn't work out

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and then uh then the third year I was

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able to make it again but didn't make it

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at a qualifier was able to make it at

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the next one I think the I think the

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fourth year it would have been like

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maybe 2018 or something like that you it

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was a little uh my path was was a little

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more like I hoped it to be but it wasn't

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until 2019 that I made the top 10 so

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yeah it took me nine years to win it but

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it felt like that that first there was

319
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like first hurdle that took four years

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to get over to make to to to get to

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where you kind of felt comfortable going

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to a qualifier and felt confident you're

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going to make it then it took a couple

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years of going to the worlds and feeling

325
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like maybe I got a shot the top 10 then

326
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it takes a couple years to go all right

327
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I'm in the top 10 now I got a chance to

328
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actually win it but uh that it

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everything has to line up you might have

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a good day and not have judges that like

331
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what you did you might have judges that

332
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line up with you and just not have the

333
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right cattle or not have the right flow

334
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like something didn't work right you

335
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know and uh so looking back on it you're

336
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like yeah nine years that's a long time

337
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to to sit in and and subject yourself to

338
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this and keep putting yourself out there

339
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but I open I open doors during those

340
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nine years you know there there was

341
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there was opportunities that came

342
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because of it I got better every year

343
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because of it and so I it'd be a shame

344
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if I won it in the first year or two

345
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yeah you know because once you win it

346
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are you done yeah yeah yeah then you

347
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wouldn't be able to meet that you

348
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wouldn't have that commer and and me all

349
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the people that you've met all nine

350
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years and I was actually there I I

351
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didn't think about it until when you

352
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started talking about it so it was in

353
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Oklahoma City wasn't it yeah yeah so it

354
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was in June My Wife puts on a conference

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every year the American Meat science

356
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Association and their annual meeting was

357
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I mean it was right on the back side of

358
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that so okay um I got there and I walked

359
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in I mean yall they carry a huge gavel

360
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right I mean this thing there was

361
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somebody walking through there that had

362
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that thing and I was like what's going

363
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on they like this is a world champion

364
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Auctioneer and I knew the madens pretty

365
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well when I lived in torington so I got

366
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to know those guys and realize what that

367
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contest is so are you in the beef

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382
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for more information I think it's

383
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awesome I wish I could chant like you

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guys but like if if you're I mean like

385
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so

386
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what um so what things did you do to

387
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like prepare for that I mean is there

388
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practices that you would do or I mean is

389
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it just one deal you went you're like wi

390
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or lose and kind of go back the next

391
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year man I you know IEP I always found

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something to work on you know I always I

393
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always took something out of that like

394
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there's like uh um I I don't think that

395
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you should fundamentally change like who

396
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you are and what you do but I I do think

397
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there's always something you can work on

398
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and a big step for me was learning how

399
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to talk um learning how to address uh

400
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the audience when you're speaking behind

401
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a microphone and you want to command

402
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attention like that was a big step for

403
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me when somebody finally finally showed

404
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me uh what that sounds like and what

405
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that looks like and what the what the

406
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impact for The Listener is all of a

407
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sudden I was like ah now like now

408
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something has clicked like I we all we

409
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all as competitors like just work on

410
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that chant and that's what everybody

411
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thinks we practice on that chant is like

412
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20% of your score you know so it's what

413
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was your appearance like what was your

414
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Poise like um how clear were you um I

415
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don't know I don't remember salesmanship

416
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is is a big one and then one of the last

417
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ones is would you hire this Auctioneer

418
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well if you sit down and you grab

419
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everybody's attention you hold it

420
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throughout your entire run at the end at

421
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as there as a judge is marking down the

422
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score when they get to the end you're

423
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going to you're you're going to gain

424
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points there so if I work on my chant

425
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and I have the best chant I probably

426
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gain six points from everybody else but

427
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then if I if if I've lost points and

428
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everything else I'm they beat me by 10

429
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you know so you you've got to gain

430
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points across all those categories so I

431
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would find something in a category and

432
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go home and work on it work on it in the

433
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car you know uh I don't know how many

434
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road signs I used to sell road signs

435
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like as a practice for umy bitting but

436
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then I got to the point where it's like

437
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I should be reading them so I would I

438
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would work on enunciating a road sign

439
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you know and just practicing how to say

440
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things so I for me that's what worked

441
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but you know everybody's probably got

442
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something a little different and then

443
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once it came time of the competition I

444
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had to get it out of my head like I If

445
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if I sat there and worked and worked and

446
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worked on it and got something really

447
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rehearsed it wasn't going to work very

448
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good that makes sense work very it's got

449
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to be natural right I mean that's kind

450
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of with anything where it's just like

451
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it's just kind of natural flow yeah so

452
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when you won it this year did you figure

453
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out I mean did you have were you pretty

454
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confident going into the finals that you

455
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felt like you were sitting pretty good

456
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I I knew I gave myself a shot that's all

457
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I knew you know and uh actually there's

458
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a great picture that they captured I I

459
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was the last person in the room to

460
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realize it was me like I'm sitting

461
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around the table my kids are like

462
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bouncing up and down my wife's like

463
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smacking me in the chest and I'm

464
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like I'm still looking at everybody

465
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else's table like who's going to stand

466
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up and like celebrate you know and all

467
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of a sudden I realize like oh we're

468
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celebrating that's that's my voice out

469
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here that's pretty cool yeah I I I did

470
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not recognize it and then then the

471
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Applause started and I couldn't hear the

472
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name or anything you know and I'm I was

473
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just so caught up and looking around the

474
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room to see like who I was going to go

475
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slap on the back this year that's pretty

476
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cool you know but I knew I'd give myself

477
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a shot but that's it but you got to be

478
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careful with those things because you

479
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know in competition there's 31 guys

480
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there and they all came to win it and

481
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one guy gets to and you can get a broken

482
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heart you know you gotta yeah know how

483
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to yeah you got to know how to win you

484
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got to know how to

485
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lose I I got some really good friends

486
00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,560
out of that deal yeah and that's the

487
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same way in the livestock I mean I tell

488
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people all the time like when we're

489
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going these stock shows and things like

490
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that I mean we're going to lose more

491
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than we're going to win so go hang out

492
00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:09,079
with who you want to lose with exactly

493
00:17:07,799 --> 00:17:10,319
you know and if you do win and

494
00:17:09,079 --> 00:17:12,640
everybody's proud of you it's it's a

495
00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:15,199
pretty cool deal yeah but uh then you're

496
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around a bunch of

497
00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:21,360
losers exactly yeah that's

498
00:17:18,679 --> 00:17:22,720
true so what's the uh let's talk about

499
00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:23,839
some different auctions you've sold

500
00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,839
because I think those I mean that's

501
00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:26,160
pretty neat too because you probably

502
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gotten yourself into all these different

503
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things what's probably what's the most

504
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expensive thing you've ever sold

505
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outside of awe earling in the north yeah

506
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yeah it would have been yeah it would

507
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have been uh you know 15 loads of uh of

508
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eight8 cattle you know coming through

509
00:17:39,559 --> 00:17:42,280
all all way between eight and eight and

510
00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,919
a quarter the other day I think they

511
00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:47,360
bring 293 or something like that you

512
00:17:44,919 --> 00:17:49,880
know just outstanding cattle and that's

513
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a lot of money but outside of that some

514
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real estate you know I don't I don't

515
00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,600
remember exact I don't remember all the

516
00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,600
exact numbers and stuff but some real

517
00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,240
estate you know probably it's like a

518
00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,840
charity auction I mean what was what

519
00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:03,080
would be highest thing you ever sold oh

520
00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:04,520
I sold tickets uh to the Detroit Lions

521
00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,640
they were like Club level tickets or

522
00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,760
something was four tickets and you got

523
00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,159
to walk on the sideline which at a lot

524
00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,440
of those charity auctions those

525
00:18:09,159 --> 00:18:12,840
especially around Detroit like they'll

526
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:15,000
bring 4,000 8,000 something like that

527
00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,799
well the owner of the Lions uh her and

528
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her husband was sitting in the in the

529
00:18:16,799 --> 00:18:20,320
seats oh wow and so there was a little

530
00:18:18,679 --> 00:18:22,600
bit of you know some corporations kind

531
00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:25,039
of showing off and those brought 45,000

532
00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,520
for four tickets to a Lions game wow

533
00:18:25,039 --> 00:18:28,520
which they couldn't give away 10 years

534
00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,720
ago that's what I was about to say I'm

535
00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,039
still I'm still a you know '90s Cowboys

536
00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,280
fan and I think about the Lions and they

537
00:18:32,039 --> 00:18:34,960
weren't very good then but I imagine

538
00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,120
they were a lot better now oh yeah well

539
00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,600
we got T Dan Campbell Texas native to

540
00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:40,600
come up and start showing them how to

541
00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:43,000
play there you go what's the what's the

542
00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,679
weirdest

543
00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,280
thing

544
00:18:44,679 --> 00:18:48,600
uh I I guess I haven't gotten into a lot

545
00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,760
of weird things but the one thing that

546
00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:54,039
sticks out I was asked to do a deer

547
00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,280
farmers of or what is it called Michigan

548
00:18:54,039 --> 00:18:56,799
deer Farmers or something like that they

549
00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:59,320
had an association I didn't even realize

550
00:18:56,799 --> 00:19:00,760
that people Farm Deer but there's deer

551
00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,480
Farmers Association and then there's

552
00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,880
like a United one all over the country

553
00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,640
well they had one in Michigan they asked

554
00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:08,440
me to come sell their um I don't know

555
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,280
Ben I guess benefit or a pack auction

556
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,640
type thing whatever it was they're

557
00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:14,240
raising money for their

558
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:16,799
Association and I I didn't like they

559
00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,200
told me went to be there and I showed up

560
00:19:16,799 --> 00:19:20,880
they hand me the catalog and I look at

561
00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:23,200
it and I'm like this is all deer Seaman

562
00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:26,120
so I'm going to sell deer Seaman like

563
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,520
for the next two hours to Deer Farmers

564
00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:29,720
how do you talk about that it was I

565
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,120
didn't know what to talk talk about it

566
00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,280
you

567
00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:34,960
know so what you're saying is your

568
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,679
speeches weren't very long they were not

569
00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,320
very long nope I just said Lot number

570
00:19:36,679 --> 00:19:40,720
three let's go here we go next SL near

571
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,400
Sean in

572
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,360
Michigan what's the cheapest thing

573
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:47,640
you've

574
00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:50,240
solded uh uh some Consignment auction

575
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:53,159
somebody use or something I think we've

576
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:56,000
all sold bolts I think we've all sold

577
00:19:53,159 --> 00:19:58,159
those dollar boxes you know those at

578
00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,679
auctions and uh we hopefully we're

579
00:19:58,159 --> 00:20:02,760
cutting our on it we're not doing it uh

580
00:20:00,679 --> 00:20:04,760
uh for a whole career but yeah those

581
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,960
things man they can be tough you got a

582
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:09,960
you got like one of those old uh hay

583
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:12,440
wagons there and there's boxes of uh old

584
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,919
dish and tupperware and you're like take

585
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,720
them all yeah and like empty yogurt cups

586
00:20:14,919 --> 00:20:17,880
that they were using you know instead of

587
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,799
throwing them away they put them in a

588
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:24,159
box slot sometime and and but that that

589
00:20:20,799 --> 00:20:26,159
table is surrounded by uh you know the

590
00:20:24,159 --> 00:20:27,919
the gray-haired women and they wanted

591
00:20:26,159 --> 00:20:30,039
that box you better not throw it in with

592
00:20:27,919 --> 00:20:31,880
that box and sell both of them at one

593
00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:33,240
time I just want the one box you know so

594
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,919
they'll teach you a little patience and

595
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:39,000
a little bit of customer service all at

596
00:20:35,919 --> 00:20:41,600
the same time yeah all at the same time

597
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,280
so well what all barns you I mean you're

598
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,640
selling quite a few barns now that's and

599
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,919
I guess that's good to keep up with the

600
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,840
markets and kind of know this deal and

601
00:20:46,919 --> 00:20:51,080
one of the reason we reach out and and

602
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,720
had you come along was was your exposure

603
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,080
and your your in the industry you're

604
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,720
you're getting out there you're you're

605
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,280
selling more you're doing more things

606
00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:01,280
and you're being able to keep up with

607
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,880
the market maret on a weekly basis so so

608
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,799
how many barns are you selling now I

609
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,200
sell on a Monday I'll sell the United

610
00:21:05,799 --> 00:21:10,080
producers Barn in Michigan it's about

611
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:12,919
two hours south of me you share that

612
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,919
duties with uh yeah I can't remember his

613
00:21:12,919 --> 00:21:16,240
name what's his name tall yeah he's yeah

614
00:21:14,919 --> 00:21:18,440
he's a little I think he's eight foot

615
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,840
tall yeah he's pretty tall it's my buddy

616
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,159
Jimmy Lambert he's one of our he's one

617
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,120
of our reps here and he does a

618
00:21:22,159 --> 00:21:26,520
tremendous job he's he's a very good

619
00:21:24,120 --> 00:21:28,640
Auctioneer as well he did some

620
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,159
announcing on the first sale announced

621
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,600
the lots and stuff first time I ever

622
00:21:30,159 --> 00:21:34,120
heard him sell I was like who is that

623
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:37,480
yeah they're like is Jimmy I said that

624
00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:39,400
ain't D there's no way can't do that he

625
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,799
barely can

626
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,080
walk but no Jimmy's a great he called

627
00:21:41,799 --> 00:21:44,799
while to go I should have just made him

628
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,240
stay on for the yeah I should put him on

629
00:21:44,799 --> 00:21:49,120
speaker uh so I saw that sale my dad

630
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,960
sale is my my parents own a market and

631
00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:53,440
Gaylor may I said that earlier probably

632
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,640
they that sale is on a Wednesday but so

633
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,960
going back to when I left law

634
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,039
enforcement in 2018 I decided like I'm

635
00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,159
going to put my head down and just

636
00:21:58,039 --> 00:22:03,279
concentrate on auctions and I and I

637
00:22:00,159 --> 00:22:05,960
planed on maybe building up um some

638
00:22:03,279 --> 00:22:07,919
equipment uh sales or building up some

639
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,080
more real estate stuff and I was going

640
00:22:07,919 --> 00:22:11,559
to put my head down and there was going

641
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,520
to be no distractions and I got a call

642
00:22:11,559 --> 00:22:17,360
by a guy from Iowa who owned the barn in

643
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:19,400
Mitchell South Dakota and I was in a big

644
00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:21,080
hurry you know I was I had a kid on each

645
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,640
arm I'm trying to go to an appointment

646
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,640
and here's this phone I thought it was

647
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,240
probably a telemarketer or something and

648
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,919
I was a little short and as he short

649
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:32,240
with him and as he explained to me like

650
00:22:28,919 --> 00:22:33,440
what he was looking for I just I give me

651
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,080
a minute I got to text somebody and

652
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,440
cancel this appointment and put the kids

653
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,919
down in the put some toys in front of

654
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,320
them and talk to him and he was offering

655
00:22:38,919 --> 00:22:42,720
me a job to go to Mitchell and so they

656
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,120
sell two days a week they sell on

657
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,919
Wednesday and they sell on Thursday

658
00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:46,960
Wednesday be way ups and Thursday's

659
00:22:45,919 --> 00:22:49,600
feeder

660
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:53,159
cattle and my world changed when I took

661
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:55,120
that opportunity like the just seeing

662
00:22:53,159 --> 00:22:57,279
the different the differences in the

663
00:22:55,120 --> 00:23:00,679
markets and the differences how Catt are

664
00:22:57,279 --> 00:23:02,520
raised the differences in uh the the

665
00:23:00,679 --> 00:23:04,880
sheer number and quality of the cattle

666
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:07,000
now we don't there's no mistaking it we

667
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,520
have good cattle in Michigan there's a

668
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:12,240
there there's a number of producers that

669
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:15,679
who do a tremendous job but seeing it on

670
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:18,679
the sheer quantity of them and then how

671
00:23:15,679 --> 00:23:20,200
to Market them differently um in that

672
00:23:18,679 --> 00:23:23,880
part of the country was really an eye

673
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:26,440
opener and it it opened a lot of doors

674
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,159
and that Market's now been sold my good

675
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,799
friend Jared Herman owns that he

676
00:23:28,159 --> 00:23:33,320
actually Cherokee Oklahoma too so a

677
00:23:30,799 --> 00:23:35,120
typical week for me is to go uh down to

678
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,960
St Louis Michigan on Monday and sell

679
00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:40,440
their sale get on a plane Tuesday

680
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:42,520
afternoon be in sou Falls Drive to

681
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:45,000
Mitchell sell Wednesday Thursday fly

682
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,400
back Thursday night or Friday morning

683
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,679
and uh then I'll have some different

684
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,679
auctions on Friday or Friday or Saturday

685
00:23:48,679 --> 00:23:52,320
and then there's a few barns that I get

686
00:23:50,679 --> 00:23:54,200
the opportunity to go up to if uh if

687
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,159
they need help or they got a big sale or

688
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,400
if they

689
00:23:55,159 --> 00:23:59,080
just just haven't seen me miss me or

690
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,360
something I'll go to harri at South

691
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,760
Dakota and sometimes I can go to

692
00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:05,120
Aberdine and and down to Cherokee if if

693
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,640
Jared's got something big going down

694
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:09,960
there so you get kind of a a feel for

695
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,840
the the different markets and makes you

696
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,880
a little more comfortable I I was never

697
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,039
so nervous when I when I won the

698
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,880
championship you know they send you

699
00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:18,320
around the country doing appearances at

700
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,120
markets if Market calls they got a

701
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,919
special sale they want the the world

702
00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:23,960
champion there you go sell that sale and

703
00:24:21,919 --> 00:24:26,399
the first couple times man there's a lot

704
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,960
of pressure on this I can't screw up cuz

705
00:24:26,399 --> 00:24:29,679
they they don't set you up there when

706
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,760
you're kind of getting started on a

707
00:24:29,679 --> 00:24:33,520
couple of Sword offs and maybe some old

708
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,919
cows and stuff like no no they we'll

709
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,799
have the house guy do that we're going

710
00:24:34,919 --> 00:24:39,159
to bring in uh 13 loads of cattle and

711
00:24:37,799 --> 00:24:42,600
you're going to you're going to start

712
00:24:39,159 --> 00:24:44,720
right then and you can't screw up but be

713
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,399
going to different parts of the country

714
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:50,279
and uh just you know it it really helped

715
00:24:47,399 --> 00:24:51,799
me I said it once before if I could have

716
00:24:50,279 --> 00:24:54,399
gone on this two or five years ago I'd

717
00:24:51,799 --> 00:24:57,799
have won this contest a long time ago I

718
00:24:54,399 --> 00:25:01,520
remember the first time I called him had

719
00:24:57,799 --> 00:25:03,919
him come down fill in video

720
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,559
cell where we kicking along there he I

721
00:25:03,919 --> 00:25:07,480
mean he fit right in he just Dove right

722
00:25:05,559 --> 00:25:09,679
in there and got right after it we

723
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,840
started the beef Dairy crosssection and

724
00:25:09,679 --> 00:25:15,240
he he come sits down and I I start that

725
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,760
first set of beef Dairy Cross C he goes

726
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:22,559
to say it and he

727
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:27,559
goes what' you say I said 350 he

728
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:30,080
went a pound a pound I sell the damn

729
00:25:27,559 --> 00:25:31,919
cattle yes 350 a pound he was like okay

730
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,600
and he they bring 410 or something like

731
00:25:31,919 --> 00:25:35,159
that he like started him too low I did

732
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,440
but he thought he was like I was

733
00:25:35,159 --> 00:25:39,919
thinking

734
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:42,480
20 oh yeah I'm like I'm giving you a

735
00:25:39,919 --> 00:25:45,080
little run to room to run he's like he

736
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:48,279
wouldn't say it I was like 350 he was

737
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:51,440
like are you sure boss come

738
00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:53,039
on so well and uh that's one of the

739
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,600
differences in markets too you know

740
00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:58,080
there the beef on Dairy was getting was

741
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,880
really had really taken hold before that

742
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,480
and and there was a large market for it

743
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,559
but we weren't seeing the numb so at

744
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,159
home uh there was a little discount for

745
00:26:03,559 --> 00:26:07,720
beef on Dairy because you could get a

746
00:26:05,159 --> 00:26:09,120
ring full of Holstein steers the beef

747
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,799
onary they sorted off there might be two

748
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:12,440
or three or something yeah in your area

749
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:14,399
it's it's really I mean there's a couple

750
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,960
big players up there now that have that

751
00:26:14,399 --> 00:26:17,039
have taken a bunch of that stuff over

752
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,480
and I think they're a lot of I don't

753
00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:20,640
know how they're they're marketing that

754
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,799
but you get out in California it's a lot

755
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,360
more Consolidated and kind of in fewer

756
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:27,240
hands and then and in Michigan I know I

757
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:28,960
was up there not that long ago and it

758
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:32,279
was it's just interesting there's lots

759
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,960
of little different Pockets um of of

760
00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:36,159
places where they've got them but it's

761
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,840
interesting that the statement you made

762
00:26:36,159 --> 00:26:40,320
because it just really resonated me with

763
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,720
me of watching the different ways that

764
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,240
we and it kind of ties in with that the

765
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,159
different ways that we produce cattle

766
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,919
we're talking about Mitchell South

767
00:26:44,159 --> 00:26:48,080
Dakota and the same way with me I mean I

768
00:26:45,919 --> 00:26:49,880
I grew up in Weatherford Texas went to

769
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:53,279
school at Texas Tech and then my first

770
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:55,120
job was in Scotts Bluff uh Nebraska and

771
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:57,080
torington Wyoming and then getting

772
00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:58,480
associated with those guys um and

773
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,799
learning I mean Sean Madden's one of the

774
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,240
first guys I met when I went out there

775
00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:03,919
and um in that area which I think he won

776
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,960
the Worlds at some point too there yeah

777
00:27:03,919 --> 00:27:07,559
Sean and Lex both did I mean I got to

778
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,440
know those I bought my first lot from

779
00:27:07,559 --> 00:27:12,159
Shawn and I out traded him on a fence

780
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,840
that went on that place so uh but they

781
00:27:12,159 --> 00:27:15,880
you know just seeing the difference me

782
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,399
like I didn't know what irrigated Farm

783
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,200
irrigated pivots were at that time so um

784
00:27:18,399 --> 00:27:22,399
cattle raising and then you think about

785
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,960
like going to South Texas oh man and

786
00:27:22,399 --> 00:27:27,000
it's it's so it's so vastly different

787
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,320
and if you're an Enthusiast and you're

788
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,159
not just doing this for your job you're

789
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,679
an Enthusiast and you love the industry

790
00:27:30,159 --> 00:27:33,480
it's so cool how you can see how

791
00:27:31,679 --> 00:27:34,679
different different parts of the world

792
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,520
and that's the backbone of what we've

793
00:27:34,679 --> 00:27:38,080
built this thing on you know I mean the

794
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,919
I remember the first time I ever went to

795
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:43,399
a Sell Barn that weighed them before

796
00:27:39,919 --> 00:27:46,000
they sold them yeah I was I don't know

797
00:27:43,399 --> 00:27:49,200
2021 19 or 20 right in there somewhere

798
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:52,240
and dad sent me to barn out it wasn't it

799
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,519
just out little west of Waco and I get

800
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,519
in there and start buying cattle and

801
00:27:54,519 --> 00:27:58,440
like man I got this all I'm looking up

802
00:27:56,519 --> 00:28:01,000
there and when they wear out the r the

803
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:03,200
way I'm like that that was bad I'm to

804
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,760
move all these things around about 2

805
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,080
hours into it Dad calls and back then

806
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,440
you had to go outside and get on one of

807
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,519
them um Hall phones you know so I was

808
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,120
talking to him he said well how you

809
00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:13,480
getting along I said I don't know I got

810
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:15,360
them all big he said how you got them

811
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,399
all big I said what do you mean I just I

812
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:19,519
can't weigh one for to save my life he

813
00:28:17,399 --> 00:28:21,960
said dummy they weigh them before they

814
00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:25,000
come in the ring I was like oh that's

815
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:27,480
what that is p looks pretty even

816
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,960
hey for those of you that don't know you

817
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,600
get in a South Texas they don't weigh

818
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,360
the cattle ahead of time they only sell

819
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,279
them one at a time one at a time and

820
00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:35,320
most people do not understand and like I

821
00:28:34,279 --> 00:28:37,919
didn't understand that I mean I'm

822
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:40,000
telling you four years ago or five years

823
00:28:37,919 --> 00:28:42,279
ago I've got some customers in South

824
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,080
Texas and I went down there and hung out

825
00:28:42,279 --> 00:28:45,720
uh at a couple barns it was like Nixon

826
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,120
or something and I'm sitting in there

827
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,399
and I'm

828
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,000
like I don't care if you had a draft of

829
00:28:49,399 --> 00:28:52,399
30 head coming in there at one deal

830
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,399
they're going to sell them one at a time

831
00:28:52,399 --> 00:28:56,000
yeah and then sell the C away the kettle

832
00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:58,399
afterwards and I said that to this guy

833
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,399
and he thought I was the biggest idiot

834
00:28:58,399 --> 00:29:01,440
in the whole world he's like you never

835
00:28:59,399 --> 00:29:02,600
been to a sailb barn before I'm like

836
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,840
I've been to some of the biggest ones in

837
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,320
the country I've never seen them weigh

838
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,200
the cattle after you buy them yeah you

839
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,799
weigh them it's l it to be three after I

840
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,200
mean you're you probably be buying one

841
00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:11,760
in the ring and the one you bought three

842
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,679
times ago is just getting on the scales

843
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,679
I mean it's yeah it can get kind of

844
00:29:13,679 --> 00:29:17,480
tricky I that was a big thing stuck it

845
00:29:15,679 --> 00:29:19,720
out one of the one of the the two things

846
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,720
I really I remembered most about Tai

847
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,320
when when uh from auction school was

848
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,240
number one is he said that they he had

849
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,360
to guess the weight on the cattle before

850
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:30,240
they were sold which I was just

851
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,200
completely weird to me and number two he

852
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,799
invited me down to hog hunt I was like

853
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,120
well yeah that sounds like a lot of fun

854
00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:37,600
he goes yeah you just go and catch them

855
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,799
by the legs I'm like I'm out you will

856
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,399
not see me in South Texas grabbing a

857
00:29:39,799 --> 00:29:43,000
wild board back always running a bunch

858
00:29:41,399 --> 00:29:46,200
of dogs when we was young and can still

859
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:49,200
do all that now you use a now we

860
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,640
use helicopter yeah took some guys down

861
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,960
south the other day on the helicopter it

862
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:55,159
was fun now see I'd do that yeah yeah

863
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,559
I'd do that but yeah the world's a I

864
00:29:55,159 --> 00:29:58,200
mean it's it's crazy how much different

865
00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:00,120
it is from different locations and this

866
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,559
business get to take you around that oh

867
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,279
man and it's awesome to see the

868
00:30:01,559 --> 00:30:04,799
different things I mean you can go down

869
00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:06,720
south and buy one at a time spend 10

870
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:10,120
hours in a barn and buy 200 or you can

871
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:12,480
go north of the Red River and sit or

872
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,440
even go out west Texas and set into bar

873
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:17,880
and buy 200 in one draft I mean it's

874
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,240
just total different it was uh I mean

875
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,480
you're talking about an eye opener the

876
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,919
first time I went to Mitchell uh they

877
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,200
put me you know he he was kind of the

878
00:30:23,919 --> 00:30:26,840
owner at that time was kind of walking

879
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,600
me through a little bit of the process

880
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,080
and and let me watch the the guy and Sh

881
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,799
me cuz he knew that I'm just wasn't that

882
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:35,200
exposed to it and then when I sat

883
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:38,039
down after I'd sold a few drafts they

884
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:40,399
cracked the gate and run in a load of 11

885
00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:43,320
weights I was like okay and I went to

886
00:30:40,399 --> 00:30:45,600
start and he no no no did it again did

887
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,519
it again did it again I sold I think it

888
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,519
was 18 loads of black or black white

889
00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:51,880
face steers well they had the option

890
00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:53,240
they could take like you know four loads

891
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,559
here or four loads there four loads

892
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,039
there or two and two or whatever I don't

893
00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:58,000
remember exactly how we Market them in

894
00:30:56,039 --> 00:31:00,519
that day but at the end of it there was

895
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:04,480
like 18 loads and they weighed within 25

896
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:06,080
lbs of each other I mean they totally

897
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,720
different you know and then he's like

898
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:12,600
offer a dime like we do dimes that's not

899
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,320
in my vocabulary so I had to had to kind

900
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,320
of relearn that and then he then he'd

901
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,320
wonder why I'd screw up the first number

902
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,000
I'm like cuz now I'm trying to think on

903
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,240
like you've given me six numbers now to

904
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,480
work with and I'm now I'm trying to

905
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,360
remember what the last number is I

906
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,360
forgot what the first two

907
00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:30,519
were oh that's good St it was quite an

908
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,840
experience quite a learning experience

909
00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:34,080
another one of them awkward silence

910
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:37,840
moments no I figur he's got something

911
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:39,799
smar thinking I'm blown away that I

912
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,200
think this guy learned his chant sitting

913
00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:45,519
in a a Super Trooper

914
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,559
car like like scanning people's you know

915
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:49,639
do like doing catching speeds at 900

916
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:51,880
p.m. in some place in the middle of

917
00:31:49,639 --> 00:31:55,399
Michigan there was there was a number of

918
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:57,200
times that uh the like you so we'd

919
00:31:55,399 --> 00:31:58,600
record interviews with people who are

920
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,000
like traffic stop or something like that

921
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,440
you'd have that and I'd forget to turn

922
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,880
the the mic off and then um you know

923
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,159
maybe they'd want the recording the

924
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,320
prosecutor want the recording or

925
00:32:06,159 --> 00:32:09,440
something you know and then they I'd get

926
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,799
an email back like please turn your

927
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,639
camera off so we don't have to listen to

928
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:15,000
you Auctioneer for the next 10 minutes

929
00:32:12,639 --> 00:32:17,039
after you talk to that speed like when

930
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,799
they slow down yeah ored I just bored

931
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:22,559
and I started

932
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:25,000
practicing oh well guys it's been fun I

933
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:26,480
appreciate you coming on Wade I uh thank

934
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,799
you for all you do for the industry I

935
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,480
mean because y'all are uh a voice be for

936
00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:32,519
the industry when you when you win that

937
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,919
title you do have to travel around and

938
00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:37,399
and be a spok spokesman for the industry

939
00:32:34,919 --> 00:32:38,559
and we thank you for all you do um if

940
00:32:37,399 --> 00:32:40,200
there's a young guy out there that wants

941
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:41,919
to do this that's inspiring to do that

942
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,600
what's the easiest thing to do is they

943
00:32:41,919 --> 00:32:47,240
go knock on a barn uh go knock on the

944
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:50,200
door um door of the barn get to meet the

945
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,720
owners and be willing to do anything

946
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,240
because you've got to build a

947
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,919
relationship uh there I'm I'm teaching

948
00:32:54,240 --> 00:33:00,200
at a couple of auction schools and uh I

949
00:32:56,919 --> 00:33:03,240
get asked that question every time and

950
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:05,159
and I it it's hard to it's hard to

951
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,840
explain if you don't understand the

952
00:33:05,159 --> 00:33:08,720
background of it but you're going to

953
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,399
need to build a relationship because the

954
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,760
market owner is responsible for every

955
00:33:11,399 --> 00:33:14,240
one of the every one of those hooves

956
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,919
that come through the barn and every one

957
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,760
of the producers that that sent them

958
00:33:15,919 --> 00:33:20,240
there responsible for the buyers

959
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,559
responsible for the for the for getting

960
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,320
the sellers paid getting the phone calls

961
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:25,840
from somebody whose cattle sold an hour

962
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,240
after they thought they were going to

963
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,240
and they're not happy about it getting

964
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:32,159
the maybe maybe having to protect the

965
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,840
market you have all of that going on and

966
00:33:32,159 --> 00:33:35,440
yet somebody comes out of auction school

967
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,600
they're 24 years old they knock on the

968
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,559
door and say I'm an auctioner I'd like

969
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,600
to work for you they're not going to

970
00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:42,480
hand those keys over to you very quickly

971
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:45,600
you've got to build that relationship so

972
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,320
be ready to do something go learn how to

973
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,120
sort the cattle learn what learn why

974
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,880
they're why they're sorting one out

975
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,840
learn why when you sent 10 head in they

976
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,679
sent eight of them back you know like

977
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,120
get get figuring those things out and

978
00:33:54,679 --> 00:33:59,240
then build that relationship and

979
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,159
eventually and it might it might be a

980
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,559
month it could Dan Clark did that for

981
00:34:01,159 --> 00:34:04,120
like 10 years before they gave him a

982
00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:06,279
shot you know he's one of the best

983
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,679
auctioneers in the history of lifestock

984
00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:10,520
auctioneers if you know him from Winter

985
00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:12,399
South Dakota he's tremendous it took

986
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,359
like 10 years he just patient just stuck

987
00:34:12,399 --> 00:34:15,520
it out then finally they they they put

988
00:34:14,359 --> 00:34:18,560
him in there he had some other

989
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:21,960
roadblocks but um if you know him he'll

990
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:23,399
tell you about him but that uh um that's

991
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,079
you've got to build that relationship

992
00:34:23,399 --> 00:34:26,280
cuz they have to be able to trust you

993
00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:28,280
they got to be able to trust you with

994
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,960
any any business yeah you got to be able

995
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,639
to want to get down get your hands dirty

996
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,639
and and start at the back and then come

997
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:35,399
there's that is a problem nowadays with

998
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:37,079
a lot of young people they think they

999
00:34:35,399 --> 00:34:38,639
they can just slip in there and start at

1000
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:40,359
the top that ain't how it works in this

1001
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:42,119
industry you got to you need to put some

1002
00:34:40,359 --> 00:34:43,679
mud on your hands and some and grunt

1003
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:45,679
work in the back before you can come to

1004
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:48,280
the front so be hungry yeah be hungry

1005
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:50,240
for a can you I mean if if somebody's

1006
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,000
got a thousand head sale like how much

1007
00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:54,839
money is going out that day how much

1008
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,879
money is that market responsible for

1009
00:34:54,839 --> 00:34:58,160
yeah a couple million dollars you know

1010
00:34:56,879 --> 00:34:59,880
and then you're in you know then you're

1011
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,880
going to just you're just going to turn

1012
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,119
that over to somebody that said they

1013
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,800
went to Auctioneer school like you've

1014
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:08,440
got to build that

1015
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,200
trust once again thanks for being on uh

1016
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,880
thanks for having me there's a it's

1017
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,520
always a joy to visit with you because

1018
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,240
you never know what's going to come out

1019
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,320
but um once again thanks everybody for

1020
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:21,320
joining in and watching uh we live it

1021
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:23,240
podcast um uh I'm going to tell you one

1022
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:26,320
more time because I've been told to tell

1023
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:28,520
you one more time hit subscribe um as

1024
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,560
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1025
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,320
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1026
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,920
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1027
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:37,720
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1028
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:40,160
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1029
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:41,680
event for all of us um but you know we

1030
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,520
just want to educate you if you have any

1031
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,200
ideas of what uh we could do next or

1032
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,240
what we could talk on next or who we

1033
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,960
could have on next just shoot Katie an

1034
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:53,319
email if you want to advertise or or do

1035
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,800
any advertising with us another uh also

1036
00:35:53,319 --> 00:35:58,520
shoot Katie an email or get on live-

1037
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:01,359
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1038
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:04,240
information to us there so thank y'all

1039
00:36:01,359 --> 00:36:06,470
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1040
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:09,620
[Applause]

1041
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