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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Good morning to everyone who has decided to

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<v Speaker 1>tune in, and they made that decision to tune into.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's going to be a good day today. It

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<v Speaker 2>is such a good day. You know why? Why because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wearing a vest again. It's going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>cold day to day.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been wearing vests.

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<v Speaker 2>It's supposed to snowstorm today. So yeah, yeah, so who

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<v Speaker 2>knows it's gonna be a pressure? My vest I came prepared.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, let me ask you a question. Do you wear

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<v Speaker 1>a jacket over the vest?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh? Yeah you do. Yeah. I always wear a lightweight jacket.

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<v Speaker 1>Because my son told me that if I wear a vest,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wear a jacket. I said, that's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>Your son doesn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. You only work for a clothing store. What

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<v Speaker 1>is he?

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<v Speaker 2>What is he?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's Tommy Ohama, that's like, and that's a big.

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy Mohammad doesn't get to have an opinion about vests.

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy Bahamas.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have a right. A Caribbean food or clothing

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<v Speaker 2>chain has o trainions about what layers you should wear

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<v Speaker 2>in I don't know the Subarctic.

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<v Speaker 1>So far, so far, this is riveting listeners. Hey, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to start off with a segment that has its

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<v Speaker 1>own jingle, and so today we're starting off with nail bag.

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<v Speaker 1>I lost my voice last night.

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<v Speaker 2>I can hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, well it's really rascy all the time, but

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<v Speaker 1>I lost my voice. Anyway, Matthew F sends in a

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<v Speaker 1>question and he says, what's a piece of advice that's

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<v Speaker 1>stuck with you over the years?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, have you thought about it? And say, Hi, Matthew,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Matthew F. Well I'm just super excited about his question.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I have an answer if you want

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<v Speaker 1>me to go first. So, when I was younger in

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<v Speaker 1>high school, my best friend adopted a theme and he said, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, let's go make it memories. He would have

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<v Speaker 1>this this saying saying making memories. And now that's saying,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get me wrong, he's gotten me in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, guess I can't imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, However, believe it or not, it has served me

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<v Speaker 1>well more, way more than it is getting me in

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<v Speaker 1>trouble because, like, for instance, even still today, my parents

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<v Speaker 1>are still with us, they're still alive, and Liz's parents

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<v Speaker 1>are as well. And I'd say something to him, like

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone and I'd say, how we're thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>like going to Ohio this weekend, but you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>really busy whatever, and he's like, he goes, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about? Man? He goes, why would you ever

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<v Speaker 1>pass up on the idea of making memories? He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna do? Stay home and get stuff done.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, but you're not going to have those memories

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<v Speaker 1>with your mom and your dad before it's too late,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. And so he always pushes me to

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<v Speaker 1>make the memories, no matter what it is or where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at, we're on vacation together, He'll say like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go do this, and I say na, and he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, man, he's gonna be great. Talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, okay, So it's great. I love.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good one. Advice, that's a good one. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a veteran tell me one time, old guy World

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<v Speaker 2>War two. It was all these guys wearing World War

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<v Speaker 2>two hats. I'm buckling up for this one at at

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<v Speaker 2>a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 2>I thanked them for their service. And then he goes, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>can I give you some good life advice? And I yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So I was probably late thirties, and he said, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, I don't know anything more important than this.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, never take a laxative and a sleeping pill

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<v Speaker 2>in the same night.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Wow he said that to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't even know it. Wow. And I saw laughing.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, so, of course, all the old guys sitting

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<v Speaker 2>at the table all start laughing at him. And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>this sounds like coming from personal experience my book. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really funny. That's really funny.

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<v Speaker 2>So Matthew f I don't think that's what you're asking for.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's here's a good one. Read your Bible every day.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is my dad before I went to college.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, read your Bible every day, share the Gospel

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<v Speaker 2>every week, and be a part of a church family

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<v Speaker 2>without stop, right without stopping, and don't and those three

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<v Speaker 2>things he felt like would carry you through right spiritually

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<v Speaker 2>and through life in general. So I think that that's

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<v Speaker 2>a great one. And then I had a chairman of

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<v Speaker 2>a board that I served with in Texas, and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>talking about money, he was he was a blue collar worker,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was a millionaire and it was because of

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<v Speaker 2>how he invested in things. And he said, give ten

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<v Speaker 2>percent to God, give ten percent to yourself. Live on

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<v Speaker 2>the other seventy percent or eighty percent, and he said

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<v Speaker 2>that he'll carry you far. I think those two things

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<v Speaker 2>spend daily time in God's word, regular commitment in a

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<v Speaker 2>church environment, you know that kind of stuff. And then money,

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<v Speaker 2>how you manage your money. I think those two things

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<v Speaker 2>are well guide your whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure I do. That's great. So okay, well the.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh you you're making memories where.

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<v Speaker 1>You started off with the laxative. So made me feel better?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, No, I like that though. I think you're

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<v Speaker 2>exactly right. Well. I tell Chad Asmond, our executive pastor,

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. I was like, hey, man, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to be planning for. What's the story you want told

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<v Speaker 2>about how you died?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you live like you're dying, right. You don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to You don't want the world to find out that

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<v Speaker 2>you died on the couch watching TV. Yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? For one adventure.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Question. We covered the gamut, we covered the money, talked

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<v Speaker 2>about relationship, yeah, I talked about Yeah. I talked about

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Health health advice, yeah, health advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought that.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of healthy advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, God's about to give Jonah some Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>God's going to give Jonah a healthy dose.

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<v Speaker 1>A healthy dose of advice, that's for sure. That's really well.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, we're wrapping up Jonah, the book Jonah. Yeah, last

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<v Speaker 2>week we did the first we did the first three chapters.

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<v Speaker 1>We have learned.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, heye, not the theme song.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, that's right. And you're gonna say, Jonah is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the very few stories that I mean, when you

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<v Speaker 1>consider all the stories that was referenced by Jesus as

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<v Speaker 1>being true, and he connected it to his death barrel resurrection,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, which is pretty cool. Mercy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good, So we're wrapping up. It's just a short

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<v Speaker 2>little book, only four chapters long. You can read it

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<v Speaker 2>in about thirty minutes. Yeah, but here's what it says.

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<v Speaker 2>This change of plans greatly upset Jonah. The change of

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<v Speaker 2>plans is that when God saw how they had repented,

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<v Speaker 2>he changed his mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we should probably do a little review.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so yeah, yeah, Monday, yes, Monday, and everybody slept then.

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<v Speaker 1>So chapter one, God tells Jonah to go to a

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<v Speaker 1>city called Nineveh, which was filled with wicked people tell

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<v Speaker 1>them to repent. Jonah doesn't like the Assyrians because they

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<v Speaker 1>oppressed his people. He doesn't think they're worthy or should

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<v Speaker 1>be worthy of God's chance to repent, so he decides

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<v Speaker 1>to not obey God, get on a ship and sell.

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<v Speaker 1>The opposite way, God causes a great storm to come

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<v Speaker 1>up in chapter two, actually at the end of chapter one,

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<v Speaker 1>and and Jonah says, hey, it's me, I'm running from God.

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<v Speaker 1>Throw me overboard. So the sailors throw them overboard because

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to die, and they feared that God

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<v Speaker 1>was causing this storm and they were going to sink.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jonah then goes overboard. The storm stops, and then

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<v Speaker 1>God caused a big fish to swallow Jonah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>all through chapter two he's in the belly of a fish,

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<v Speaker 1>miraculously survives and he actually repents and says, Okay, God,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you got big things planned for me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I repent, and you know, thank you so much. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>God for saving me. I'll do what you asked me

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<v Speaker 1>to do. I'm summarizing a lot of that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of chapter two, the fish vomits him

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Chapter three, he goes and finally gets to Nineveh, walks

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<v Speaker 1>through the town. It's so big he has to walk

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<v Speaker 1>three days. And then he tells everybody repent or else

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<v Speaker 1>God's gonna get you. And then the city, to his surprise,

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<v Speaker 1>completely repents, from the king all the way down to

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<v Speaker 1>the least these even the animals, and the all show repentance,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning the animals were too fast right they fasted from food.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Jonah is unhappy with God's decision because God

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<v Speaker 1>decides to change his mind and not destroy the city

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<v Speaker 2>God changed his mind and did not carry out the

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<v Speaker 2>destruction he had threatened. That's the last verse we read

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<v Speaker 2>last week. Yes, Yes, and now in Jonah chapter four,

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<v Speaker 2>verse one, it says this change of plans greatly upset

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<v Speaker 2>and it became very angry. So he complained to the

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<v Speaker 2>Lord about it. Didn't I say before I left home

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<v Speaker 2>that you would do this Lord? That is why I

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<v Speaker 2>ran away to Tarshish I knew that you're a merciful

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<v Speaker 2>and compassionate God, slow to get angry, and filled with

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<v Speaker 2>unfailing love. You're eager to turn back from destroying people.

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<v Speaker 2>Just kill me now, Lord, I'd rather be dead than

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<v Speaker 2>alive if what I predicted will not happen. The Lord replied,

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<v Speaker 2>is it right for you to be angry about this?

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<v Speaker 2>Then Jonah went out to the east side of the

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<v Speaker 2>city and made a shelter to sit under as he

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<v Speaker 2>waited to see what would happen to the city and

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<v Speaker 2>the Lord. God arranged for a leafy plant to grow there,

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<v Speaker 2>and soon it spread its broad leaves over Jonah's head,

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<v Speaker 2>shading him from the sun. This eased his discomfort, and

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<v Speaker 2>Jonah's very grateful for the plant. But God also arranged

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<v Speaker 2>for a worm. The next morning at dawn, the worm

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<v Speaker 2>ate through the stem of the plant so that it

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<v Speaker 2>withered away. As the sun grew hot, God arranged for

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<v Speaker 2>a scorching east window blow on Jonah. The sun beat

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<v Speaker 2>down on his head until he grew faint and wished

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<v Speaker 2>to die. Death is certainly better than living like this,

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<v Speaker 2>he exclaimed. Then God said to Jonah, is it right

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<v Speaker 2>for you to be angry? Because the plant died. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Jonah retorted, even angry enough to die. And the Lord said,

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<v Speaker 2>you feel sorry about the plant, though you did nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to put it there. It came quickly and died quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how it ends. And I think, come on, Jonah.

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<v Speaker 1>And you would think that he would after that lesson go,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, you're right, you know. Chapter five of Jonah.

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<v Speaker 1>help us all to understand how great your love is. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it could have been that, or it could

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<v Speaker 2>Expression to be funny. Yeah, that's just that's all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so funny. Take the tickles me. So you're my

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<v Speaker 2>think maybe some of the funniest verses in the whole Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>So he would have never gotten down to that science.

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<v Speaker 2>So he would have really stood out in the community, right,

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<v Speaker 2>really standing out, Wow, everybody, He would have had everybody's attention.

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<v Speaker 2>And then so I don't know if that's true or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I've just heard people talk about that before. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he walks into the city, or he could have walked.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of the stomach of the fish like shadowed me

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't say that though, I know, I know

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't, so he probably stood out. But anyways, he

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<v Speaker 2>to the point that the king listened. So there's something

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<v Speaker 2>about it other than his words. I'm sure other prophets

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<v Speaker 2>had said things, but right, so something got the king's attention.

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<v Speaker 2>King was like, yeah, you're right, we need to repent,

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<v Speaker 2>and God uses Jonah for that purpose. And then Jonah

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, having been swallowed by a fish and

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<v Speaker 2>not dying, and then preaching to the king saying you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be judged by God, and instead of being executed,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole nation, the whole city goes into repentance. You

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<v Speaker 2>think that those two things can get your attention to well,

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<v Speaker 2>God's really in charge of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead, funniest versus in the Bible, he goes, didn't I

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<v Speaker 2>say before I left home that you do this? Lord?

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<v Speaker 2>He's arguing with God about I knew it. I knew it,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's kind of saying, you're kind of a jerk.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he's saying right through this whole thing. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I ran away. I knew that you're merciful and compassion.

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<v Speaker 2>Not many people, any people in the Bible, complain about

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<v Speaker 2>mercy and compassion, right right right. It's the thing. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know why I think that he God doesn't include

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<v Speaker 2>the chapter five, It's because Jonah's opinion doesn't matter. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why God's going to do what God's gonna do. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not Jonah changed his mind or not, I

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<v Speaker 2>man you people. So Jonah is so narcissistic. He's more

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<v Speaker 2>concerned about a plant. He doesn't care about the plant.

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<v Speaker 2>He cares about what the plant does for him. Sure, right,

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<v Speaker 2>he's so self centered. I don't want the Assyrians to repent.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew you would go ahead and forgive them if

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<v Speaker 2>personal comfort. And he's mad about all of it, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's telling God off, and God's talking out loud to him.

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<v Speaker 2>But all those things blow They all just blow my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you think that maybe we can give Jonah

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of the benefit of down.

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<v Speaker 2>He literally wants to jump off a bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>Like like like what if it was out of a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of justice, like you know, like, hey, the Syrians

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<v Speaker 1>have done horrific things to friends and family that I know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, oppression back then wasn't just you know, feelings,

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<v Speaker 1>right like in twenty twenty five, right, So oh he

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<v Speaker 1>hurt my feelings. That's that's that's the extent of our

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<v Speaker 2>But he's telling God off about your mercy, your compassion,

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<v Speaker 2>and your unfailing.

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<v Speaker 1>Love for sure. For sure, it's so funny, man, it

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<v Speaker 1>is funny. Yeah, But maybe maybe what he's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do is maybe he's trying to say, where's your sense

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<v Speaker 1>of justice? Right? So, I don't know, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>think that maybe Jonah. I mean, after all, he is

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<v Speaker 1>a prophet, sure, he is a chosen man of God,

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<v Speaker 1>So doesn't he doesn't he deserve a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>credit than being super selfish. Although I agree ninety percent

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<v Speaker 1>of it seems pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's pretty narcissistic, and you know, he feeling sorry

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<v Speaker 2>about the plant that you did nothing to put it there, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you just benefited, you don't care about and it says

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<v Speaker 2>is what the New Living Translation says. The literal translation

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<v Speaker 2>know their right hand from their left, right right. God's

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<v Speaker 2>saying these people, of course, they're living wicked lives. They

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<v Speaker 2>they never have They've never embraced or understood the truth

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<v Speaker 2>of God's ways. They don't know their right hand from

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<v Speaker 2>their left hand. They're just stumbling through life. And finally

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<v Speaker 2>you come and you share the gospel with them. So

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<v Speaker 2>God's looking at this, going, you're my prophet. Man. Prophets

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<v Speaker 2>are just supposed to bring God's word to God's people, right,

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<v Speaker 2>That's all they're just. But he's the only one that

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<v Speaker 2>if you read any of the rest of the prophets,

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<v Speaker 2>than Jeremiah. Jeremiah and Jonah are the two who kind

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<v Speaker 2>of or inject their own personalities and opinions about what

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<v Speaker 2>God's doing. Right, But Jonah disagrees with God God's opinion

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just a ridiculous thing. And it really

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<v Speaker 2>shows how it's possible, how God can use people who

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so this guy, he doesn't have a he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>and he's not. He's not trying to align with God.

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<v Speaker 2>But God says, Jonah, you're the messenger I have right

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<v Speaker 2>now to send to Ninevah. You know, Amos is busy

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<v Speaker 2>So he goes the opposite direction. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>tell him. I don't want to. Now I'm mad that

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<v Speaker 2>you forgave them. You're I'm so sick. You're unfailing love.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, which is hilarious. Hey, So speaking of not

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<v Speaker 1>wanting your enemies to be loved or accepted by God,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a very slight example. So when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a freshman high school, I started going to church, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just started, you know, getting involved in this church,

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<v Speaker 1>and I found sort of a group of friends and

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<v Speaker 1>I just become a Christian. We're talking like weeks, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And there was this guy in this kid in my

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<v Speaker 2>You can turn your notifications of.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, I could go ahead and do that.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you do that? How do you do it?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know that surprised me.

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<v Speaker 1>The number of times that I've turned my notifications off

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<v Speaker 1>is almost like zero to not disturbed. Right there, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna do. Okay, thank you, Jeff. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>So here's what happens. I'm I'm in high school and

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<v Speaker 1>to me because for some reason, in science class or

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<v Speaker 1>we get in a fight. Okay, So he goes to

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<v Speaker 1>punch me and I go back, you know, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I miss his punch, misses me. So grabs the desk

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<v Speaker 1>and he flips it over right, just flips the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing over and he's like, come on you blankety blankety blank,

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<v Speaker 1>the office, we get in trouble. They separate us and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not supposed to sit with him and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so anyway, that happened like literally weeks before what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to tell you. So I start going to

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<v Speaker 1>this church. Well, little do I know that it used

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<v Speaker 1>But I discovered this church, but Norm is no longer

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<v Speaker 1>for something. It was we're going to be have his

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<v Speaker 1>Image teams, and I was on the greeting team. So

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<v Speaker 1>what happened was he would say, Okay, Chris, if somebody

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<v Speaker 1>walks in and they're a visitor and they're all by themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>what you're gonna do is you're going to sacrifice your

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<v Speaker 1>social time and you're gonna go and you're gonna sit

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<v Speaker 1>down and make friends with them and make sure they

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<v Speaker 1>feel included. Can you believe can you believe it? What

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<v Speaker 1>are the odds? So he looks over me and he goes, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a guy in the back. And I'm just talking

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, you know, social social. Hey, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy in the back. You gotta go ahead and be

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<v Speaker 1>assigned to and he's your guy. I said, okay, no problem,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get up and went in the back and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even look until I turned the row sat down,

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<v Speaker 1>and sure enough it's Norm and I'm like, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>And so sure enough, I'm just sitting there thinking this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to end really badly, and I'm thinking this

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<v Speaker 1>is awful, Like what are you doing? Get out of

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<v Speaker 1>my church, Get out of my church. This is my church,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what are you doing here? You know? And I

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<v Speaker 1>had all those feelings, and I just sat there through

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. And through the whole message. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even thinking about the message that the youth astor was giving.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about how uncomfortable it is that this

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<v Speaker 1>enemy of mine was in my church and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want him there.

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<v Speaker 2>And then all of a.

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<v Speaker 1>Sudden, he looks over me and he goes, so this

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<v Speaker 1>is where you go to church. I'm thinking, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>she's like actually speaking to me. And I said yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes, you know, this used to be my

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<v Speaker 1>church when I was younger, and I said really, And

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden we just started talking. Well, come

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<v Speaker 1>to find out he was, you know, he was messing

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<v Speaker 1>around with some drugs and had big, long red hair,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful red hair, by the way, beautiful, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>all the way down in the middle of his back. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he said that. He told me. Eventually, he told me

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<v Speaker 1>his story that the day before he showed up at church.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get emotional talking about it. He

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<v Speaker 1>was involved with some people with drugs. He had gotten

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<v Speaker 1>beat up in an alley and thrown into a dumpster,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was laying in the dump shirt. It was raining,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was so beaten that he was just thinking

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<v Speaker 1>to himself like, I don't know if I have enough

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<v Speaker 1>strength get up. He was so bruised, but he said

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<v Speaker 1>he looked up in the sky and he said, okay, God,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, if you can give me enough strength, get

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<v Speaker 1>up and go home. He said, I'll get up and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go to church. And maybe it was a couple

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<v Speaker 1>days before that, but it was that week. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>why he was in church that day. And it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out that he ended up being one of my best friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, well, yeah, isn't that great?

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<v Speaker 1>And then we went to Bible College together. Oh well,

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<v Speaker 1>and room together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Did he still have beautiful red hair?

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<v Speaker 1>He cut it short, but he always had red hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the most amazing things. And it totally

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<v Speaker 2>changes your life. Man. This is why I think Jonah

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<v Speaker 2>suffers with narcissism a little bit. Here. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>most amazing discoveries that I think radically transforms your life

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<v Speaker 2>is when you discover that God's unfailing love, his compassion,

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<v Speaker 2>and his mercy are equal for your enemies as they

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<v Speaker 2>are for you. Right, because we tend to think salvationist

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<v Speaker 2>for me, Christianity's for me, God's answers to prayer for

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<v Speaker 2>me God's love is for me. That's how that's how

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<v Speaker 2>we worship, that's how we sing our songs. When you

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<v Speaker 2>tear up on a Sunday morning singing a song, or

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<v Speaker 2>driving down the road listening to worship song or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>it's for you, right, it's the message you're hearing from Gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is a transformative thing I think that radically

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<v Speaker 2>changes us when we realize that God loves my enemies

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<v Speaker 2>as much and as passionately as he loves me, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and that should change my own personal perspective. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's what he's trying to say here. He says,

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<v Speaker 2>you feel sorry about this plant. Shouldn't you feel sorry

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<v Speaker 2>for such a great city? Right? These people matter, and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody matters to God, even the people that offend us

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And the gospel finds its way to you, on

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<v Speaker 1>its way to somebody else, that's right. So it's our

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<v Speaker 1>job to pass it on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, that is a great place to end.

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<v Speaker 1>That is our time, So we will see you next

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<v Speaker 1>time on the Bible Gush