On the 95th episode of the
What is a Good Life? podcast, I am delighted to introduce our guest,
Madelaine Ley. Madelaine is a philosopher, spiritual ecologist, and contemplative artist. Her varied work includes lecturing at Delft University of Technology and Lassonde Engineering School in Canada on digital citizenship, responsible AI, intersectional approaches to tech, and robot-ethics; hosting Sacred Sessions, non-religious gatherings that blend philosophy, art, science, contemplative practice and collective reflection; writing and podcasting for
Beauty in the Mire; and experimenting with
contemplative art. She was named one of the “100 Brilliant Women in AI Ethics” by Lighthouse3 in 2022 and has been featured by the BBC, Leidsch Dagblad, Yes! Magazine, and Life Itself, as well as funded by The European Pavilion, Horizon 2020 and the Social Science Research Council of Canada.
In this glorious conversation, Madelaine shares how she is deepening her awareness of her embodied experience of life. We discuss how the birth of her daughter revealed an inner bravery, while also exploring the importance of embracing grief, along with the profound grounding and lessons she received from her spiritual mentor in embodying agenda-free presence and resisting the urge to fix or give advice.
08:10 Breakthroughs from motherhood and meltdowns
13:50 The significance of breakdowns and ruptures
16:35 Listening to energies that visit our bodies
22:08 The value of an awareness of death
27:05 The importance of embracing grief
32:20 Agenda free presence
37:55 The influence of a spiritual mentor
42:12 What is beyond measurement
45:07 The experience of silence
49:20 The feeling of bravery from childbirth
56:50 What is a good life for Madelaine?