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Mark Butler: Hi, this is Mark
Butler and you are listening

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to a podcast for coaches.

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I seem to be a person who, instead
of having a business or a career

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in the more traditional sense.

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I seem to be a person who occasionally
spins up a new side hustle, and then

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the accumulated or the total income
from these side hustles provides our

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family with a life and a lifestyle.

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I'm not sure what I think of that on the
one hand, I'm pretty happy life is good.

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I have the things I value most, which
are autonomy and creative freedom.

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On the other hand, I don't have
what I perceive to be some of the

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compounding benefits that accrue.

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To peers of mine, friends of mine
whom I've watched build businesses,

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careers in the more traditional sense.

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And so nothing's ever simple, right?

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I want to be careful not to be
too reductive in my observations

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of my own life or of theirs.

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But I do sit here and look over there
and see what looks like green grass.

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And I think it probably is green grass.

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Of course we know the way life works.

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And if I went over to that green
grass, I'd look back and find that

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where I was has green grass too.

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So.

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These realizations,  these
explorations, they don't mean that

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anything is going particularly wrong.

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What they mean is I have an opportunity
to explore and analyze and consider

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whether my way of being would benefit
from some tweaks that would allow me to

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keep being me and maybe accrue some of
the rewards, the compounding rewards.

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That I see other people experiencing.

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Could I go on the way I am forever?

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I've told you before in this podcast that
I can imagine myself being 80 years old,

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and on a Tuesday morning waking up and
saying, yep, I've got six calls today with

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clients looking forward to catching up
with them and seeing how I can help today.

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I look at my bookkeeping business and most
of my job in my bookkeeping business is

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programming software, building tools that.

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Make my bookkeeping more automated.

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That seems to be an itch I continue.

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Enjoy scratching.

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, I've opened the office hours membership
now, and that's where I get to

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be a teacher and a facilitator.

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And that's a job I love.

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I said to Kate the other day, I
think part of the reason I'm opening

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office hours is because I do have
a deep down desire to be a school

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teacher, like a high school teacher.

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But being a high school teacher
doesn't really fit in our life.

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And so instead I open up a membership
called office hours and it lets me be a

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teacher and I've loved teaching for ever.

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And I think I will continue to love it.

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So none of these things need to go away.

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It may be true that none of them
even need to significantly change.

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I would probably benefit.

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This is most likely the
understatement of the century.

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I would probably benefit from
looking farther out into the future

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and figuring out how today's activities
relate to that future reality,

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because I tend to be a person who
just says, what are we doing today?

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And maybe what are we doing tomorrow?

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And maybe what are we doing next week?

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But for the most part, it's just
sort of, what are we doing today?

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What problem is there to be solved today?

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What thing is there to be made today that
could be kind of fun and interesting.

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But I don't tend to think in terms of
where am I headed and how am I headed

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there and why am I headed there?

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And so I'm trying to figure out,
all right, what do I tweak here?

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I think I need a better
system for tracking.

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I think I want a system that helps
me understand how my recent activity

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relates to my long term goals.

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Now this is one on one level stuff
that your favorite business coach would

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have talked about on her podcast and
webinars and courses and whatever else.

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And of course I will
fully ignore all of it.

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Um, but I'm thinking about how having
a longer term goal or set of goals and

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understanding exactly how they relate
to my personal mission and priorities,

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and then measuring my performance and my
results against those longterm priorities

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would have a positive effect on me.

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It's so funny to say all that out
loud, because again, this feels

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like one of those things that
everybody else knows, but I don't.

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And I'm sure not everybody else
knows it, but I can name a few

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people who clearly know it.

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And so they probably loom large in
my mind as having figured it all out.

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And then I'm making them a proxy
for all of the rest of humanity.

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And so it, it can have this effect where
you put yourself on an Island all alone

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and say, well, everyone else has it.

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And I don't, Oh, well, I guess
it'll all work out or not.

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And of course that's not, I mean,
it will all work out or not, but I

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think It's not practical to say that
I'm the only one who hasn't figured

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out how to relate today's activity
to a long term vision for my life.

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So today I've got myself thinking,
well, what would I measure?

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What would I measure as a way of
checking in with today's activities,

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specifically my coaching practice?

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We'll just limit it to that one sort
of Mark side hustle called coaching.

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Cause that's what this podcast is about.

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What would I measure in my coaching
practice that would have a clear relevance

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and importance to my vision for my life?

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Here's what I got.

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I'll share it with you.

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, those of you who know me best know
that this whole set of ideas may barely

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survive the completion of this episode,

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which then leads me to a thought of, uh,
it's really probably time to hire some

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sort of an assistant, someone who Plug
these holes in my skills and my thinking.

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Okay.

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Quick tangent.

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I don't want you to email me an offer
to be my assistant, not because I think

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that you're deficient in some way.

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It's because I have no confidence in
myself at this point to productively

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engage any assistant, no matter how
qualified, capable and brilliant.

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And also if you email me, that's just
one more email I'm not responding to.

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So let's just let it settle.

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Let's just let it breathe.

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If an assistant happens, it happens.

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And if not, whatever.

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I have actually reached out to a
friend though, and I've asked that

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friend to   coach me  in becoming
a person who could hire a person.

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I think that would be, boy,
that would be a big win.

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Anyway.

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So even acknowledging that maybe
these ideas won't survive past the

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end of this episode, I think it's a
worthwhile thought experiment and I

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think I'm better off for having done it.

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And then I think it's execution,
will bubble into my life in some way.

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So here's what I'm thinking
about tracking in my coaching

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practice as a way of improving it.

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And as a way of more fully living the
values that I have that caused me to

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be in coaching in the first place.

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Okay.

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Here we go.

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I think I could be tracking.

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The actual revenue collected in my
coaching practice and The revenue owed

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to me in my coaching practice now You're
laughing because I own a bookkeeping

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business and what I do is I track
people's revenue for them And yes, I

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do actually have my revenue tracked.

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Of course I do.

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I don't let that fall behind What
I'm talking about here is not just

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tracking it, but making it available
to myself in a way that's so quick and

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so easy that there's really no friction
between me and knowing my number.

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Now, I may still only look at it
every three, four, six weeks, but

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any amount of friction between me and
that number will make it less likely

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for me to look at it and less likely,
therefore, for me to benefit from it.

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So just a number that says, This
is how many dollars I've collected

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in 2024 from my coaching practice.

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And here's how many dollars my existing
coaching relationships will be paying

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me by agreement in the months to come.

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So that looks like, Oh yeah.

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And in November, this
client's going to pay.

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And in December that client's
going to pay and et cetera.

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Just so I have a little bit of a dashboard
about, how much money is already here

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and how much money is on its way.

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This is the easiest, simplest, and I
think very useful thing for me to be

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tracking,, and looking at regularly.

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I, of course, would also want
to look at how my time is being

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occupied by the coaching practice.

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You've heard me talk about inventory,
and some of you have thanked me

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for this idea, this concept of
inventory, and I like it too.

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I think it would be even more
powerful if I tracked it in any way.

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Um, if I looked at like my friend,
Melissa, who, who you've heard on this

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podcast before, Melissa has this tool that
she uses to track capacity in her practice

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and in her clients practice where she can
look at, this is how many hours are in the

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calendar that could be used for coaching.

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And this is how many hours that are
actually being used for coaching , we

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could call this a utilization.

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So in Mark Butler's coaching
practice, what is his utilization?

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Meaning of all the hours that
are available for coaching, how

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many are being used for coaching?

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That would be a useful number for me
to track over time because if that

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number is trending downward, however,
slowly, that's important information.

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Also, if that number is trending
upward, however, slowly, that's

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important information to the business.

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As one on one coaches, we are in
a session based hourly business.

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Which is why I don't usually call it
a business because it's a practice.

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, it's a technician's practice.

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And if I don't have any idea what
my utilization is or what the

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trend in my utilization is, then
I could be caught off guard when

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suddenly money starts to feel tight.

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And I'm not sure why, because
maybe my emotional sense, my vague

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sense of how things are going is
generally positive, which it is.

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But maybe the indicators
aren't there to support my good

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expectations, my positive outlook.

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Maybe my utilization is trending downward,
which means I've got a problem to solve

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in my coaching practice if I want my
coaching practice to contribute in a

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meaningful way, to my family's finances.

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So I'm calling that utilization.

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How much coaching capacity do I have and
how much of it is actually being occupied.

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By paying clients.

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Now there's another piece here to
utilization that sometimes I acknowledge

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and oftentimes I don't want to acknowledge
because there can be some discomfort

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for me in what I'm about to tell you.

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And it is this

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in any given month, I can look
at the amount of money that I

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collect from paying clients.

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And I can use that money as a
buffer or as a boon to my mental

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state and my emotional state.

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It's a hack.

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It's a crutch to be able to say,
Oh, look, some people paid me.

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So I guess all is well in the world.

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And that's not totally untrue.

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Collecting money is a
positive thing in my practice.

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I can also look at my calendar
and I can say, Oh, look at all

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these appointments on my calendar.

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Look how well things are going.

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I can say that I'm full
or I'm close to full.

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That's also a boon to my psyche.,
but there's a number that represents

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where the rubber really meets
the road in a coaching practice.

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And this tends to be one
that I want to ignore.

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And it is the number of sessions
that actually happen, which sounds

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really funny when you say it out loud.

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It's one thing to look at
your calendar and see 12 or 14

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sessions scheduled for the week.

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But then at the end of the week,
maybe only nine, 10 or 11 of those

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12, 13 or 14 sessions actually
delivered, they actually happened.

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Now, why does that matter?

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The reason it matters is that in
a session based coaching practice

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like mine, I don't really earn the
money until I deliver the session.

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So it doesn't matter if someone pays me,
let's say it's some crazy number, 50,

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000 for coaching until I deliver all of
the sessions  that 50, 000 commits me to.

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I haven't really earned the money.

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And we know that's true because if I
were to accumulate a whole bunch of

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undelivered sessions and then For some
reason, it's just a thought experiment.

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All those clients came at
the same time and said, we're

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ready for all of our sessions.

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And if I then couldn't deliver the
sessions I'd committed myself to

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because I don't have the capacity in
my week, well, now I've got a problem.

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So in a session based practice, it's not
enough to just get yeses and celebrate

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the yeses and celebrate the deposits
of the money into the bank account.

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And it's not enough to
just look at the calendar.

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And in my case, see a bunch of
green spots because I highlight

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my coaching clients, hours green.

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It's not enough to see a
green wall in my calendar.

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What really matters is what percentage
of my capacity, not just was

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spoken for, but was actually used.

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Because one of the most painful
things to me about a coaching

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practice, which I've just had to
accept as a cost of doing business,

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is that if a client cancels, 24, 48
hours, 72 hours, maybe even two weeks.

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It's not like I have some line of
people that I'm aware of who are

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banging down the door to try to get
that extra session if one opens up.

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But if a client cancels, it's
more than likely that I lose the

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opportunity to translate that
hour into its corresponding rate.

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And I probably won't get that hour
back, nor will I get that money back.

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So it's not enough to sell an
hour and collect the money.

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The hour has to be
delivered to the client.

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No, all of our friends on the
course creation and mastermind

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selling and whatever world,
they're all saying, yeah, exactly.

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This is why you shouldn't be in
a one on one coaching practice.

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Well, they can take the rest
of the episodes on my podcast

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and that those are my, my
counterpoint to what they're saying.

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This is not a deal breaker to me.

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It's simply a reality of
a session based practice.

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And I have to build it into the model.

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I have to acknowledge that even when
people have purchased, let's say 80

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or 90 percent of my inventory,, they
will use in any given week, some

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percentage lower than that, which
then flows all the way through.

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To my personal income, which then flows
through to my ability to live my values

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and desires in my personal life and
pretending it's not that way is, not wise.

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It's not practical.

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So in my business, yes, I want
to track revenue collected.

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I want to track revenue still owed to me.

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I want to track My Availability
as a percentage of capacity.

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And then I have to have a true
utilization number that acknowledges

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that in any given week for the number
of hours that I intended to coach a

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certain amount of dollars, a certain
amount of value was actually delivered.

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So just using round numbers, It
doesn't matter if I've sold 3,

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000 worth of sessions in a week.

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What matters is how many dollars
worth of sessions did I deliver?

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That is my actual income for lack of
a better word, or my actual revenue in

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a pure accounting sense, by the way,
welcome to the world of nerdy accountants.

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What I'm talking about is the more
precise way of tracking revenue.

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You don't get to call it revenue
until you've delivered the services.

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So these are numbers that I would track.

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And if I had a little dashboard that
allowed me to look at the last three

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weeks or three months or nine months
and to see trends in all of these

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numbers, revenue collected, revenue
owed to me, Sessions committed sessions,

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completed some utilization number.

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Then I would have an easier time
saying what's actually going on with

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the health of my coaching practice.

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And is it actually carrying its weight
along with my other side hustles?

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Is it actually pulling its weight in terms
of my households consumption desires?

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We can look at all of those numbers as
the ones that come after the transaction,

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after the person says yes, and they pay
an invoice, depending on what we see in

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the trends in the post transaction data,
like, you know, collected revenue and

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all of that, that I just talked about.

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Then we got to look at the
pre transaction numbers.

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We have to look at the numbers that
we believe contribute to transactions.

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Now this for me is, it's one of
those old novels where it says like,

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here be dragons, because in the
pre transaction space, there are at

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least dozens of numbers you could
track, and it might be hundreds.

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I've worked on some reports for
clients of mine who tend to be more

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advertising driven, more funnel
style businesses, and the variety

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and the quantity of numbers that they
can track can be kind of staggering

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and it can be kind of overwhelming.

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And I'm a nerd.

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I'm, I'm a numbers guy.

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I not afraid of math.

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I'm not afraid of statistics, but the
numbers you can track in a marketing

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game are potentially overwhelming.

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Well, if you've listened to the podcast,
you know, my strategy, my strategy is

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talking to a microphone, wait for an email
to land in my inbox requesting coaching.

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That's my strategy.

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So when I'm looking at what I track
in the pre transaction space, I look

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at how often am I hitting publish
after talking into a microphone?

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And in fact, I just signed
into my podcast host.

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Before recording this episode, because
I wanted to make sure that I haven't

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spoken directly about this topic.

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And I realized that my trend is downward
in terms of frequency of publishing.

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I had a vague awareness of that, but
it's a little bit worse than I thought.

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, maybe I don't want to put a value
judgment on that and say it's worse, but

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it's definitely becoming less frequent.

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Well, if my strategy is to talk into
a microphone and then wait for an

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email, the part of that I can control
is talking into the microphone.

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And it's all fair and well and great for
me to say today, all things are good.

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The practice is full.

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The practice is healthy.

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But if I'm talking into the microphone
less and less often, and if I

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believe talking into the microphone
matters, then I have to believe.

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That whatever comes from talking into a
microphone will decrease and that that

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will decrease the health of the practice.

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The only way I can pretend that's
not the case is if I say, Oh, I was

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probably talking into the microphone
way more than I needed to before.

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And now I'm just seeking some
sort of steady state where, Oh,

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maybe I publish every other week.

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Maybe I publish every three weeks,
but the emails still land in the inbox

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and the practice still stays healthy.

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That might be true.

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And then the question becomes, how much
am I willing to risk on that being true?

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Am I willing to risk incurring debt
while I find out whether I can get

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away with publishing only once every
three weeks, once every four weeks,

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I mean, I could take that risk.

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I reopened this podcast at the beginning
of this year saying that I hadn't

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really published in the whole previous
year and things had worked out fine.

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But is that the game I want to play?

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Or do I want to acknowledge that
the cost of producing a podcast

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episode is for me very low.

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And so there's no significant
benefit to not Publishing a

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podcast in terms of costs saved.

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It doesn't take me a whole day.

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It doesn't cost me a thousand dollars.

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So why actually would I not do it?

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Got to ask the question.

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And the answer to that question will
inform how frequently I hit publish

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and reflect how confident I am that
pushing publish will positively

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correlate with more emails in my inbox,

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more happy clients, more renewals, more
referrals, and everything down the line.

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So for me, really the only pre
transaction number that I'm

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tracking is podcast episodes It's
pretty easy to keep track of that.

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Now I do have this membership
now and I'm excited about it.

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I love being a teacher and that's
primarily what the membership offers

00:23:18.765 --> 00:23:21.135
me, teaching and facilitation.

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I don't think you can pretend you're going
to grow a membership, publishing a podcast

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every week or every three or four weeks.

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I think if I want to really commit
to the membership, what comes with

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that as a commitment to be in more
places, more often extending people, an

00:23:45.390 --> 00:23:47.100
invitation to come into that membership.

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There will need to be
more things to track.

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I'm not sure what those are yet.

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More content, more content in more places.

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Ugh, but not so much that
it takes over my life.

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These are the things to be
explored, things to be balanced.

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But where that all leads me
is, I want there to be just a

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small handful of numbers that
I'm tracking post transaction.

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Meaning after people say yes and
pay me, okay, what comes after that?

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I want to keep track of those things.

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So I know that the practice
is staying healthy.

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And then there are going to be a small
handful of things pre transaction that

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I track frequency of content production,
maybe new types of content production.

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I really shouldn't rule out advertising,
even though it's kind of my brand.

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It's mostly that I'm anti Facebook ads.

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I'm anti social media advertising.

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I'm kind of psychotic about it,
but I'm open to sponsorships.

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I'm open to affiliate arrangements where
I pay my members to get me members.

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So , there's places to explore there,

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and I think some amount of this
tracking could influence me to become

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a person who actually starts to
reap longterm compounding rewards

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from all these little gigs I start.

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That I love

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I'll try to be back again soon
because yeah, pushing publish on

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this podcast is my main strategy,
so I will talk to you next week.

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See ya.