1 00:00:01,429 --> 00:00:04,669 Welcome to Plans Are Booked, a podcast for every reader. 2 00:00:04,669 --> 00:00:06,048 I'm Molly Geller. 3 00:00:06,342 --> 00:00:07,942 I'm Stephanie Blackburn. 4 00:00:08,390 --> 00:00:09,390 I'm Caitlin Madison. 5 00:00:09,390 --> 00:00:12,390 Welcome to chapter 34. 6 00:00:12,770 --> 00:00:14,920 I think I liked being 34. 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:16,610 Did you guys? 8 00:00:17,790 --> 00:00:19,792 I think it was pretty solid. 9 00:00:20,578 --> 00:00:21,378 couldn't tell you. 10 00:00:21,378 --> 00:00:25,372 I was probably renovating a house, but I don't remember anything about 34. 11 00:00:25,529 --> 00:00:29,329 when Steph turned 35, sorry I'm skipping ahead, we did the most epic trip to Palm 12 00:00:29,329 --> 00:00:32,529 Springs, California, and I feel like for the six months before that, while you were 13 00:00:32,529 --> 00:00:35,693 still 34, we were planning, which was very fun. 14 00:00:36,458 --> 00:00:39,048 Yeah, I think we also traveled on a side trip too. 15 00:00:39,048 --> 00:00:40,158 We do. 16 00:00:40,878 --> 00:00:43,578 I'm sure that was a travel trip that year also. 17 00:00:43,578 --> 00:00:46,258 I think that's when we went to Tracks for the first time. 18 00:00:46,258 --> 00:00:47,162 Which. 19 00:00:47,162 --> 00:00:47,777 Yeah. 20 00:00:47,777 --> 00:00:51,237 Turks and Caicos shout out to the Shore Club greatest luxury resort I've ever 21 00:00:51,237 --> 00:00:51,870 stayed at. 22 00:00:51,870 --> 00:00:57,350 know once we get Jackson Hole in books, I feel like we need to plan whatever the 23 00:00:57,350 --> 00:01:01,830 next tropical thing is going to be. 24 00:01:02,570 --> 00:01:03,449 I know. 25 00:01:03,449 --> 00:01:06,729 of all, not only do you not have to threaten her, she has 900 places 26 00:01:06,729 --> 00:01:07,998 bookmarked already. 27 00:01:07,998 --> 00:01:09,542 I'm happy to plan it all. 28 00:01:09,542 --> 00:01:13,702 I like always visit my parents in Florida and that's like all fine and dandy but 29 00:01:13,702 --> 00:01:17,222 like they live in basically a retirement community and I just could use a little 30 00:01:17,222 --> 00:01:18,352 more spice in my life. 31 00:01:18,352 --> 00:01:19,782 You know what I'm saying? 32 00:01:20,082 --> 00:01:27,602 Okay chapter 34 we are going to be discussing a book by Merritt Weisenberg 33 00:01:27,602 --> 00:01:30,202 called This Golden State. 34 00:01:30,282 --> 00:01:36,537 It is a I would say YA adjacent book because she 35 00:01:36,537 --> 00:01:43,857 has just finished high school or is she at? 36 00:01:43,857 --> 00:01:45,877 No, she's at. 37 00:01:46,150 --> 00:01:48,037 No, it's the summer. 38 00:01:48,037 --> 00:01:51,470 what should be the middle of her senior year. 39 00:01:51,470 --> 00:01:51,900 Got it. 40 00:01:51,900 --> 00:01:54,330 Because she's in like a summer school program. 41 00:01:55,050 --> 00:02:00,250 So I say YA adjacent because it's like a book that's really it's about first love, 42 00:02:00,250 --> 00:02:02,690 but it's also about all the people in her family. 43 00:02:02,690 --> 00:02:04,630 And we'll get into that in a little bit. 44 00:02:04,630 --> 00:02:12,150 But I think that similar to All My Rage, there's definitely like enough adult 45 00:02:12,150 --> 00:02:15,490 elements to this that I wouldn't only put it in young adult. 46 00:02:15,490 --> 00:02:19,490 I would say that it bends a little bit on genres. 47 00:02:20,433 --> 00:02:23,233 Would somebody like to start on our catch up? 48 00:02:24,382 --> 00:02:28,802 well i got a lot to catch up on should we do happy first or sad first? 49 00:02:28,802 --> 00:02:32,486 not sad, anger i'm sorry we're doing roses and thorns this time 50 00:02:32,486 --> 00:02:33,886 No, I'm just kidding. 51 00:02:35,066 --> 00:02:37,894 I didn't know we were categorizing it. 52 00:02:38,061 --> 00:02:42,321 go around the dinner table to do Rose and Thor and I always always Struggled to like 53 00:02:42,321 --> 00:02:43,381 pick just two things. 54 00:02:43,381 --> 00:02:44,830 I'm so bad at that game 55 00:02:44,830 --> 00:02:49,450 I want to just shout out Erica Frank, who always calls it our daily pit and peak. 56 00:02:49,450 --> 00:02:53,710 So let's do, we'll do the pit first. 57 00:02:54,230 --> 00:03:00,390 I don't know if you guys know this about me, but my senior year of college, I found 58 00:03:00,390 --> 00:03:02,502 out through a mutual friend. 59 00:03:02,502 --> 00:03:06,782 on the track team that my boyfriend had been cheating on me with a freshman also 60 00:03:06,782 --> 00:03:08,142 on the track team. 61 00:03:08,542 --> 00:03:13,462 And this was back in the day of the first year of Facebook. 62 00:03:13,462 --> 00:03:15,442 So there was no Facebook messaging. 63 00:03:15,442 --> 00:03:18,502 Everything was done through AIM, if you remember. 64 00:03:19,082 --> 00:03:25,122 I found out the girl's instant messenger name and messaged her and was like, hi. 65 00:03:25,122 --> 00:03:27,222 This is the level of crazy that I am. 66 00:03:27,222 --> 00:03:28,065 Hi. 67 00:03:28,065 --> 00:03:30,185 I'm just off writing a text. 68 00:03:30,185 --> 00:03:35,965 I don't know the story and we went to books one day and you didn't know what we 69 00:03:35,965 --> 00:03:36,378 did. 70 00:03:36,378 --> 00:03:37,928 bookmarks from our podcast. 71 00:03:37,928 --> 00:03:39,458 I had to do it. 72 00:03:39,458 --> 00:03:43,720 And you're telling me you hunted a girl down on AIM? 73 00:03:43,878 --> 00:03:45,018 Yeah. 74 00:03:45,998 --> 00:03:48,038 I thought she needed to... 75 00:03:48,038 --> 00:03:50,758 No. 76 00:03:50,998 --> 00:03:59,238 If you knew me basically before 25, I was a different stuff basically. 77 00:03:59,298 --> 00:04:03,308 Anyways, I messaged her and was like, hi, I hear that you are dating my boyfriend. 78 00:04:03,308 --> 00:04:04,918 I thought you should know. 79 00:04:05,578 --> 00:04:08,386 So anyways, along those lines... 80 00:04:08,942 --> 00:04:12,382 I thought you should know you're dating my boyfriend. 81 00:04:12,921 --> 00:04:18,401 I mean, I thought we had four companies that I had done, but I need to do math, 82 00:04:18,401 --> 00:04:20,681 you know, for people. 83 00:04:20,801 --> 00:04:21,581 Yeah. 84 00:04:22,241 --> 00:04:25,645 You mean 21 year old to 18 year old. 85 00:04:26,598 --> 00:04:27,618 Girl to girl. 86 00:04:27,618 --> 00:04:28,546 Let's be real. 87 00:04:28,546 --> 00:04:29,606 to girl. 88 00:04:29,986 --> 00:04:33,466 Side note, he didn't know I did that until I told him like a day later. 89 00:04:33,466 --> 00:04:37,146 He was like completely... 90 00:04:37,146 --> 00:04:38,766 I basically clotheslined him. 91 00:04:38,766 --> 00:04:39,666 It was fantastic. 92 00:04:39,666 --> 00:04:43,686 But anyways, along those lines, if I need to find somebody, I'm going to find 93 00:04:43,686 --> 00:04:44,096 someone. 94 00:04:44,096 --> 00:04:49,346 So as you both know, our... 95 00:04:49,346 --> 00:04:53,804 My plumber, who will no longer be my plumber after this house is done. 96 00:04:54,122 --> 00:04:55,762 People might think you're nuts for this. 97 00:04:55,762 --> 00:04:56,934 I love this. 98 00:04:58,246 --> 00:04:58,486 care. 99 00:04:58,486 --> 00:05:00,006 You can call me crazy. 100 00:05:01,546 --> 00:05:03,486 The plumber ghosted me. 101 00:05:03,486 --> 00:05:08,666 So last Saturday, a week, a little over a week ago was the last time I had heard 102 00:05:08,666 --> 00:05:09,466 from him. 103 00:05:09,466 --> 00:05:15,046 And it was left that he was on his way to the house to finish up the three 104 00:05:15,046 --> 00:05:21,526 relatively small things that he had left unfinished for probably four to six weeks 105 00:05:21,526 --> 00:05:23,026 at this point. 106 00:05:23,026 --> 00:05:25,602 Sunday didn't hear from him when I texted. 107 00:05:25,602 --> 00:05:26,698 Monday, as you know, 108 00:05:26,698 --> 00:05:28,398 I do not like to phone call people. 109 00:05:28,398 --> 00:05:29,518 I would rather text. 110 00:05:29,518 --> 00:05:31,318 Monday I started calling. 111 00:05:31,318 --> 00:05:34,438 I called twice on Monday, I think twice on Tuesday. 112 00:05:34,778 --> 00:05:40,838 Also texting at the same time because, you know, sometimes people don't like to... 113 00:05:40,838 --> 00:05:42,158 I think that was... 114 00:05:42,158 --> 00:05:43,538 Was it Wednesday or Thursday? 115 00:05:43,538 --> 00:05:45,290 Yes. 116 00:05:45,290 --> 00:05:49,830 called and pretended we needed a plumber at the dental office I run. 117 00:05:49,857 --> 00:05:52,777 on my way home, I was going to go see a movie. 118 00:05:52,777 --> 00:05:54,857 Maybe I was going to see a song. 119 00:05:54,857 --> 00:05:56,302 I was going to go see a movie. 120 00:05:56,302 --> 00:05:58,602 days for him to return the phone call to me. 121 00:05:58,602 --> 00:06:04,982 So didn't hear from him, left messages and I left very neutral toned messages because 122 00:06:04,982 --> 00:06:10,222 in my mind, the worst thing that could happen is that he just does not respond 123 00:06:10,222 --> 00:06:12,302 and then we have to find another plumber. 124 00:06:12,302 --> 00:06:17,482 And this is something, this is something where a plumber has signed off. 125 00:06:18,042 --> 00:06:22,722 The plumbing inspector signed off on the rough, but he hasn't finished the second 126 00:06:22,722 --> 00:06:23,402 part of it. 127 00:06:23,402 --> 00:06:27,562 And a plumber is not going to want to step into this job. 128 00:06:27,582 --> 00:06:31,822 and have fear in this also being sort of associated with his work. 129 00:06:31,822 --> 00:06:34,142 So it's just like a physical situation. 130 00:06:34,142 --> 00:06:40,882 So I could leave it on Ryan's work, where I do find his type of work, and found his 131 00:06:40,882 --> 00:06:41,932 white -hawntons, right? 132 00:06:41,932 --> 00:06:43,122 I've never met her. 133 00:06:43,122 --> 00:06:45,052 I also wasn't quite sure what her name was. 134 00:06:45,052 --> 00:06:47,149 The things I knew were that she doesn't. 135 00:06:47,149 --> 00:06:47,606 know. 136 00:06:47,606 --> 00:06:49,686 and that they have pit bulls. 137 00:06:49,686 --> 00:06:52,246 And that's what I was going on. 138 00:06:53,002 --> 00:06:57,122 Now, I'm going to start to define the status of their heads and their faces for 139 00:06:57,122 --> 00:06:58,302 the process. 140 00:06:58,922 --> 00:07:03,562 So also, I'm going to come up with a process of deciding what you can do to 141 00:07:03,562 --> 00:07:05,782 just write a natural review. 142 00:07:05,782 --> 00:07:10,622 And that's going to be one of the absolute factors that I want to be because it's his 143 00:07:10,622 --> 00:07:11,152 business. 144 00:07:11,152 --> 00:07:11,942 It's his life. 145 00:07:11,942 --> 00:07:14,902 He's covering all of your things. 146 00:07:14,902 --> 00:07:17,262 So I'm going to highlight the fact that I'm going to be actually starting off with 147 00:07:17,262 --> 00:07:17,798 this. 148 00:07:17,798 --> 00:07:20,898 So I messaged her very nicely. 149 00:07:20,898 --> 00:07:22,078 the spirit. 150 00:07:22,878 --> 00:07:24,498 This is where I would have been. 151 00:07:24,498 --> 00:07:26,518 This is where I've been sitting. 152 00:07:26,518 --> 00:07:28,818 Molly's been roasting on this as well. 153 00:07:28,818 --> 00:07:30,098 And we've just been waiting. 154 00:07:30,098 --> 00:07:32,378 I mean, I was like, Stephanie, give me the number. 155 00:07:32,378 --> 00:07:33,738 I'm fucking calling this guy. 156 00:07:33,738 --> 00:07:38,138 If he calls me back in 15 minutes, we will know he's a POS. 157 00:07:38,138 --> 00:07:41,038 I mean, we know he is, but now we really know. 158 00:07:41,038 --> 00:07:42,409 We would really know. 159 00:07:42,409 --> 00:07:45,369 also just need to say for any listener who's hearing this tale and has been 160 00:07:45,369 --> 00:07:47,789 following along or even if you're hearing it now for the first time if you're 161 00:07:47,789 --> 00:07:52,349 thinking yourself why not just find someone else who would be willing to 162 00:07:52,349 --> 00:07:57,469 finish the work this gentleman who they are working with already has been prepaid 163 00:07:57,469 --> 00:08:02,819 so it would be a completely sunk cost if they were to try to hire somebody else 164 00:08:03,030 --> 00:08:05,900 He should do the right thing and finish the work. 165 00:08:05,900 --> 00:08:12,260 And because of the parts and all the parts he does, can be found on the internet. 166 00:08:12,260 --> 00:08:15,302 You're right, and you'll see that this is where we do this all the time. 167 00:08:15,473 --> 00:08:19,013 And since I used to work in customer service, for those who don't know my first 168 00:08:19,013 --> 00:08:23,233 job out of college, I answered phones for two years in customer service at Fidelity 169 00:08:23,233 --> 00:08:23,693 Investments. 170 00:08:23,693 --> 00:08:28,693 I know all the worst things you can possibly say to get somebody to never 171 00:08:28,693 --> 00:08:30,793 touch a business again. 172 00:08:31,498 --> 00:08:39,078 So I messaged her on, we know it was Thursday, Thursday afternoon was my first 173 00:08:39,078 --> 00:08:40,058 message. 174 00:08:40,278 --> 00:08:45,094 And then I waited until next morning. 175 00:08:45,094 --> 00:08:47,764 and discovered she had another personal account. 176 00:08:47,764 --> 00:08:50,864 So then I copied and pasted the same message again. 177 00:08:50,864 --> 00:08:55,144 And I erred on the side of like, maybe she has no idea whatsoever. 178 00:08:55,144 --> 00:08:56,798 And since she doesn't work, 179 00:08:56,930 --> 00:09:01,430 This is their dual income that is effective in not responding. 180 00:09:01,430 --> 00:09:04,250 So I decided to feel like a nice price. 181 00:09:04,250 --> 00:09:08,730 And I was like, I just want to make sure that she has responded to this, feel okay. 182 00:09:08,890 --> 00:09:13,870 And it's also, you know, I'm not going to be able to grow through this. 183 00:09:13,870 --> 00:09:15,731 and that's why he hasn't been responding. 184 00:09:15,731 --> 00:09:18,341 That is what's heard on college. 185 00:09:18,341 --> 00:09:22,861 They dress it because stuff is like, what if something actually happened that they 186 00:09:22,861 --> 00:09:27,221 don't have a comma anymore and nobody can tell us that maybe it doesn't exist 187 00:09:27,221 --> 00:09:27,881 anymore. 188 00:09:27,881 --> 00:09:32,401 So we thought maybe that's what's being like, you know, giving them a sense of 189 00:09:32,401 --> 00:09:32,771 doubt. 190 00:09:32,771 --> 00:09:33,801 Yeah, maybe. 191 00:09:33,801 --> 00:09:37,771 So, you know, we're to wait and see. 192 00:09:37,771 --> 00:09:41,038 So the second part is first, here's my theory. 193 00:09:41,038 --> 00:09:46,118 And then within like three to four minutes, he texted and claimed that he was 194 00:09:46,118 --> 00:09:47,128 going to come yesterday. 195 00:09:47,128 --> 00:09:50,518 I have not followed up to see if he didn't. 196 00:09:50,518 --> 00:09:54,218 Well, I mean, I followed up yesterday and he said he hadn't been there yet, but he 197 00:09:54,218 --> 00:09:56,078 was on his way. 198 00:09:56,138 --> 00:09:57,558 I called BS. 199 00:09:58,038 --> 00:09:59,948 I mean, this is what happens every single week. 200 00:09:59,948 --> 00:10:05,418 So at this point, like he's the boy who crawled cried wolf and every other animal 201 00:10:05,418 --> 00:10:06,578 in the zoo. 202 00:10:07,381 --> 00:10:10,406 So anyway, I hope you have a fine little day today. 203 00:10:10,406 --> 00:10:12,826 Hopefully he has finished, probably not. 204 00:10:12,826 --> 00:10:15,986 I'm probably gonna have to hound him again all this week. 205 00:10:15,986 --> 00:10:22,706 But now I know that I could just reach around and message the wife and she's 206 00:10:22,706 --> 00:10:25,520 gonna be like, what are you doing? 207 00:10:25,545 --> 00:10:32,185 I were him, I would be so embarrassed that clients are like hunting down my wife's 208 00:10:32,185 --> 00:10:34,637 personal Instagram to reach me. 209 00:10:36,730 --> 00:10:42,730 I, before I got embarrassed about it, I would be afraid of you because you hunted 210 00:10:42,730 --> 00:10:45,970 down my wife on social media and messaged her. 211 00:10:45,970 --> 00:10:50,730 And I'd be like, I got to get this chick's shit done real quick because she is not 212 00:10:50,730 --> 00:10:51,750 messing around. 213 00:10:51,750 --> 00:10:54,750 And then afterwards I would be embarrassed. 214 00:10:54,750 --> 00:10:56,330 I think it would be that order. 215 00:10:56,330 --> 00:11:00,640 But since he still hasn't shown up, I'm like, does he even have a brain? 216 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,886 Because we're like, 217 00:11:09,002 --> 00:11:17,722 he, he, what I am imagining from like overhearing him, he takes phone calls the 218 00:11:17,722 --> 00:11:20,752 entire time that he's, he's got earbuds in while he's doing his plumbing. 219 00:11:20,752 --> 00:11:22,618 So he's taking phone calls the whole time. 220 00:11:22,618 --> 00:11:28,798 And I think that he has over -spended himself, like, way beyond the picture that 221 00:11:28,798 --> 00:11:31,398 he also had at the end of his career. 222 00:11:31,398 --> 00:11:34,218 A whole series of things three weeks ago, and I quit. 223 00:11:34,218 --> 00:11:35,258 So my surprise. 224 00:11:35,258 --> 00:11:41,798 So I think that he probably over -spended himself assuming what it's not, because 225 00:11:41,798 --> 00:11:45,570 he's out of hands, and then realized what he had done. 226 00:11:45,570 --> 00:11:46,410 to himself. 227 00:11:46,410 --> 00:11:47,762 But also... 228 00:11:48,105 --> 00:11:48,822 people. 229 00:11:48,822 --> 00:11:52,382 are in the same school and also three houses are two houses private. 230 00:11:52,382 --> 00:11:57,142 So you don't not push the project out of your way or else you're going to have to 231 00:11:57,142 --> 00:11:58,142 pay the cost. 232 00:11:58,182 --> 00:12:03,702 I think that if you are a person who is highly apprehensive and you want to find a 233 00:12:03,702 --> 00:12:10,582 way out of that, then HAC, whatever it is, in your entire business, rests on all of 234 00:12:10,582 --> 00:12:11,362 that. 235 00:12:11,445 --> 00:12:16,585 And the fact that he thinks you're not going to like warn every person you ever 236 00:12:16,585 --> 00:12:19,245 encountered not to use him is insane. 237 00:12:19,245 --> 00:12:27,877 And I've never seen something so simple drag on for so long. 238 00:12:27,877 --> 00:12:32,418 And he is a very down -evaluated kind of person. 239 00:12:32,418 --> 00:12:35,658 I feel like he's, his reaction to that, I think, more than I think he is. 240 00:12:35,658 --> 00:12:39,098 He's like 12 times bigger. 241 00:12:39,098 --> 00:12:41,398 He actually has a really good sense of humor. 242 00:12:41,398 --> 00:12:43,478 He's trying to be really nice and the things. 243 00:12:43,478 --> 00:12:45,458 But it's clear that he's not lying. 244 00:12:45,458 --> 00:12:47,312 He doesn't even have any... 245 00:12:47,413 --> 00:12:50,593 And listen, I had a lemon car. 246 00:12:50,593 --> 00:12:53,673 I actually drove a car with an overheating engine. 247 00:12:53,673 --> 00:12:57,062 I know what is the frequency that someone would need to have their car. 248 00:12:57,062 --> 00:12:59,302 in the shop or actually have it. 249 00:12:59,302 --> 00:13:02,442 It's just telling you to, it's kind of a break. 250 00:13:03,761 --> 00:13:04,790 All right, so we're going to have a... 251 00:13:04,790 --> 00:13:10,390 my my peak if you will is that I got to spend two days at the barn two separate 252 00:13:10,390 --> 00:13:14,966 barns last week because the physical therapist that I've been volunteering with 253 00:13:14,966 --> 00:13:19,526 so tired and I was so tired of having to do it against my medications and the loss 254 00:13:19,526 --> 00:13:20,026 of energy. 255 00:13:20,026 --> 00:13:27,046 So when you're away from the hometown, I found out that the barn, I was obsessed 256 00:13:27,046 --> 00:13:27,626 with it. 257 00:13:27,626 --> 00:13:32,986 It was like straight out of the drive for cattle farm. 258 00:13:32,986 --> 00:13:34,414 So I'm happy I could get it. 259 00:13:34,414 --> 00:13:35,814 called Barnyard. 260 00:13:35,814 --> 00:13:39,114 And I went online, sure enough, they also do houses. 261 00:13:39,114 --> 00:13:41,354 They're gorgeous. 262 00:13:41,814 --> 00:13:44,278 she has a 263 00:13:44,278 --> 00:13:47,578 monies in her horse's car, and I was like, I don't think I would call them. 264 00:13:47,578 --> 00:13:48,898 I was like, I know it. 265 00:13:48,898 --> 00:13:52,008 I also got two, four new kids. 266 00:13:52,008 --> 00:13:54,538 These are kids that only work for a woman. 267 00:13:54,538 --> 00:14:01,758 One of them, who might play possibly the biggest kid I've ever encountered, she 268 00:14:01,758 --> 00:14:02,798 wanted me to know. 269 00:14:02,798 --> 00:14:05,128 his voice is like Mickey Mouse. 270 00:14:05,128 --> 00:14:08,718 It's the tiniest little voice ever and it's high pitched. 271 00:14:08,878 --> 00:14:13,918 I'm not gonna go into like his personal stuff, but he... 272 00:14:14,282 --> 00:14:20,702 sat me in a little child chair, had the belt put on, and didn't talk to us 273 00:14:20,702 --> 00:14:21,682 whatsoever. 274 00:14:21,682 --> 00:14:22,652 Got on the floor. 275 00:14:22,652 --> 00:14:25,002 He was like chatting with us all the time. 276 00:14:25,002 --> 00:14:26,338 He's not forming. 277 00:14:26,338 --> 00:14:30,838 like complicated sentences, but you can sort of understand what he's trying to 278 00:14:30,838 --> 00:14:31,018 say. 279 00:14:31,018 --> 00:14:33,538 And he was just the happiest kid in the entire world. 280 00:14:33,538 --> 00:14:35,778 It was, we were all giggling afterwards. 281 00:14:35,778 --> 00:14:37,498 It was just delightful. 282 00:14:37,498 --> 00:14:40,619 I will say though that I got. 283 00:14:40,619 --> 00:14:44,329 got horrible seizures from wearing foreign boots for two days in a row and walking 284 00:14:44,329 --> 00:14:46,929 into the house in steps each day. 285 00:14:47,649 --> 00:14:50,190 So, it was really, not... 286 00:14:50,190 --> 00:14:54,950 that anyone from ARIET is ever going to hear this, but maybe get some nicer barn 287 00:14:54,950 --> 00:14:56,754 boots that don't cause blisters. 288 00:15:06,890 --> 00:15:07,510 Sure. 289 00:15:07,510 --> 00:15:14,310 So I had my last day of teaching this past week and then I packed up my classroom 290 00:15:14,310 --> 00:15:19,526 because as I have previously mentioned, I'm not teaching at my school next year. 291 00:15:19,538 --> 00:15:26,718 And I decided to form a self -help group for Target Party because in June 2020, I 292 00:15:26,718 --> 00:15:31,378 left teaching back September of 2023. 293 00:15:31,562 --> 00:15:33,662 now I'm leaving teaching again. 294 00:15:33,662 --> 00:15:36,032 So I said, I just like to celebrate. 295 00:15:36,032 --> 00:15:40,582 So I was like, and the Celtics were having a game that night and I was like, let's 296 00:15:40,582 --> 00:15:45,542 just get some people together and have some bevs and kick off the summer. 297 00:15:46,666 --> 00:15:52,466 And because typically, there's usually some kind of big like, and school year 298 00:15:52,466 --> 00:15:54,186 celebration with teachers. 299 00:15:54,186 --> 00:15:58,766 But since I'm leaving, and since they treat me like I'm talking to my house, I'm 300 00:15:58,766 --> 00:15:59,965 like, no. 301 00:15:59,965 --> 00:16:03,305 I know a lot of people from the school that they didn't come. 302 00:16:03,665 --> 00:16:04,885 So. 303 00:16:05,650 --> 00:16:07,380 I just decided to throw a shindig. 304 00:16:07,380 --> 00:16:08,700 So we went to High Street Place. 305 00:16:08,700 --> 00:16:14,250 We were going to go to Cisco, but Cisco is all outside. 306 00:16:14,250 --> 00:16:15,430 It's a... 307 00:16:15,458 --> 00:16:17,378 a beer garden from the Seaport. 308 00:16:17,378 --> 00:16:21,358 I also had somebody that I invited to come as a truck driver to the park, and then it 309 00:16:21,358 --> 00:16:22,378 was supposed to rain. 310 00:16:22,378 --> 00:16:26,478 But I was like, no, there's a lot of people out there. 311 00:16:26,798 --> 00:16:29,378 So the day started at 1 .30. 312 00:16:29,430 --> 00:16:34,990 With two of my best friends, we went to legal harbor side, then we did get a drink 313 00:16:34,990 --> 00:16:37,230 at Cisco after it stopped raining. 314 00:16:37,230 --> 00:16:39,160 We barely finished our drink. 315 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,850 I don't even know if I told you guys this, we barely finished our drink. 316 00:16:41,850 --> 00:16:43,637 It was so humid. 317 00:16:43,637 --> 00:16:47,597 that the three of us were like up high. 318 00:16:47,597 --> 00:16:50,017 And we were like, is there a problem? 319 00:16:50,017 --> 00:16:53,117 And one of us, Ellie, was like, who is it that's going to help? 320 00:16:53,117 --> 00:16:54,437 We were like, no. 321 00:16:54,437 --> 00:16:55,198 We need to help. 322 00:16:55,198 --> 00:16:58,458 like, get a pair of fish and it is more wholesome outside. 323 00:16:58,686 --> 00:17:03,706 Cisco has these fake plastic grass mats on the ground. 324 00:17:03,706 --> 00:17:07,146 And so that it looks like you're on a lawn, even though you're like in the 325 00:17:07,146 --> 00:17:09,946 middle of the seaport with all these financial buildings. 326 00:17:10,305 --> 00:17:13,880 And they were just filled with water. 327 00:17:14,206 --> 00:17:17,287 And they have tents and canopies and stuff. 328 00:17:17,287 --> 00:17:21,247 And just like everything was just captured in the air. 329 00:17:21,247 --> 00:17:22,687 And it was like being in a sauna. 330 00:17:22,687 --> 00:17:24,347 It was disgusting. 331 00:17:24,507 --> 00:17:26,007 So we had to pull out of there. 332 00:17:26,007 --> 00:17:28,489 And the times three plays, the cell gets locked. 333 00:17:28,489 --> 00:17:31,309 had great company, had great food. 334 00:17:32,549 --> 00:17:37,769 I'm a little bit, some people are like, I'm a little bit into like different parts 335 00:17:37,769 --> 00:17:39,449 of my life altogether. 336 00:17:39,449 --> 00:17:41,489 It's a lot of pressure. 337 00:17:41,489 --> 00:17:42,342 I'm like. 338 00:17:42,342 --> 00:17:44,502 Yeah, but you're gonna have to stop. 339 00:17:44,502 --> 00:17:45,832 You know what I mean? 340 00:17:45,832 --> 00:17:49,622 It's just so much pressure. 341 00:17:49,622 --> 00:17:53,322 Like, all these people want for life and parents want for life. 342 00:17:53,662 --> 00:17:56,712 It's like, if your friends be real, then they should not be wrong. 343 00:17:56,712 --> 00:17:58,182 in my opinion. 344 00:17:58,242 --> 00:17:59,292 I love it. 345 00:17:59,292 --> 00:18:01,032 I love bringing people together. 346 00:18:01,032 --> 00:18:04,422 I think it's hilarious what people end up connecting about. 347 00:18:04,422 --> 00:18:09,462 And like a lot of the people that I invited to this are like people I met 348 00:18:09,462 --> 00:18:12,134 through Ellie or people I met through Mark, like. 349 00:18:12,366 --> 00:18:15,436 And people are like, I don't even know someone's got like Seth. 350 00:18:15,436 --> 00:18:17,506 I know Seth because of Molly. 351 00:18:17,506 --> 00:18:21,286 I know Elora and Tori because of her. 352 00:18:21,286 --> 00:18:23,306 And I know Aaron because of them. 353 00:18:23,306 --> 00:18:27,706 Like it's, I mean, I actually made a family tree as a house for all the people 354 00:18:27,706 --> 00:18:27,990 that I've met. 355 00:18:27,990 --> 00:18:28,660 at this thing. 356 00:18:28,660 --> 00:18:30,337 And I freaking love it. 357 00:18:30,337 --> 00:18:35,757 Can I say that, that, that she has a conversation that I always wanted to have? 358 00:18:35,757 --> 00:18:36,827 Okay, so take it away. 359 00:18:36,827 --> 00:18:37,554 I do! 360 00:18:37,554 --> 00:18:38,389 gals 361 00:18:38,389 --> 00:18:41,789 We walked in and she was like, the hosts are here, the hosts are here, I need to 362 00:18:41,789 --> 00:18:42,897 get a picture. 363 00:18:43,022 --> 00:18:46,422 literally called you guys celebrities at lunch. 364 00:18:46,542 --> 00:18:50,802 And then when you guys got there, I'm pretty sure she was like, so lap time or 365 00:18:50,802 --> 00:18:52,162 something ridiculous like that. 366 00:18:52,162 --> 00:18:54,162 And I was like, my Lord. 367 00:18:54,832 --> 00:18:58,782 so shout out to Ellie for making us feel, you know, like we're part of E or 368 00:18:58,782 --> 00:18:59,742 something. 369 00:19:00,172 --> 00:19:01,162 it was, yeah. 370 00:19:01,162 --> 00:19:04,722 And we did get a picture and I will say high street place really decked the place 371 00:19:04,722 --> 00:19:07,222 out for pride and for the Celtics. 372 00:19:07,222 --> 00:19:08,042 They had like, 373 00:19:08,042 --> 00:19:10,992 balloons that smell like friables from the salt nests. 374 00:19:10,992 --> 00:19:14,342 They have adjacent canine life -size cutouts. 375 00:19:14,342 --> 00:19:20,962 They have all these beautiful rainbow balloons that are very flowery. 376 00:19:20,962 --> 00:19:25,092 They're sort of like the hot places for their photo ops. 377 00:19:25,092 --> 00:19:26,602 I feel like we got a pretty good one. 378 00:19:26,602 --> 00:19:28,126 And we posted it. 379 00:19:28,310 --> 00:19:29,580 on Plans Are Booked. 380 00:19:29,580 --> 00:19:32,130 I thought that that was really adorable. 381 00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:36,962 In other news, I just have been on the internet. 382 00:19:36,962 --> 00:19:41,322 all the time this weekend because I don't know if you guys know this, but the 383 00:19:41,322 --> 00:19:46,762 Marathon Street of Normal People was this weekend in England, in London. 384 00:19:46,842 --> 00:19:51,000 And it was like a... 385 00:19:51,546 --> 00:19:55,676 charity thing that you had to like either donate or buy tickets to. 386 00:19:55,676 --> 00:19:59,886 And obviously I couldn't go to London on a dime, but if I could have, I would have. 387 00:20:00,126 --> 00:20:02,142 And... 388 00:20:02,142 --> 00:20:07,562 I feel like grant was a lottery because then after you like made a donation they 389 00:20:07,562 --> 00:20:13,202 picked a certain number of people to attend and it just not showing up and now 390 00:20:13,202 --> 00:20:13,450 it's like 391 00:20:13,450 --> 00:20:17,350 these like photos and like clips of it popping up on my Twitter. 392 00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:21,710 And it is just like an absolute delight hearing these people talk about one of my 393 00:20:21,710 --> 00:20:23,350 all time favorite shows. 394 00:20:23,350 --> 00:20:28,190 There are some pictures of Daisy and Paul that I'm just like, if you don't end up 395 00:20:28,190 --> 00:20:31,462 together, I literally give up. 396 00:20:31,534 --> 00:20:32,844 Like, I just don't understand. 397 00:20:32,844 --> 00:20:37,374 And some of the pictures are like the way that they're like holding each other and 398 00:20:37,374 --> 00:20:39,474 the way that they're like looking at each other. 399 00:20:39,474 --> 00:20:44,154 People on the depths of the internet have found mirror images of like when they were 400 00:20:44,154 --> 00:20:47,344 filming normal people, like behind the scenes photos. 401 00:20:47,344 --> 00:20:50,994 And I'm like, that was six years ago that they filmed this. 402 00:20:50,994 --> 00:20:53,694 It came out four years ago. 403 00:20:54,074 --> 00:20:59,902 And here we like, they're still looking this way at each other with each other. 404 00:21:00,185 --> 00:21:03,242 It's just kind of like, almost all these areas. 405 00:21:03,242 --> 00:21:05,062 the facts from my experience. 406 00:21:05,282 --> 00:21:07,662 And I hope you should look it up and see if you can do that. 407 00:21:07,662 --> 00:21:11,194 any interest in normal people whatsoever, because it's bringing me a lot of joy. 408 00:21:11,733 --> 00:21:15,433 Okay, just also need to go back to your re -retirement party for a second. 409 00:21:15,713 --> 00:21:20,333 For people who have not been to High Street Place in Boston, it's a very cool 410 00:21:20,333 --> 00:21:22,673 like food hall marketplace type situation. 411 00:21:22,673 --> 00:21:28,473 Steph and I walked in and this girl passed us holding something that immediately 412 00:21:28,473 --> 00:21:29,083 caught my attention. 413 00:21:29,083 --> 00:21:34,293 She was drinking bubble tea, but out of a teddy bear shaped cup. 414 00:21:34,293 --> 00:21:37,363 And I just tapped her on the shoulder and I was like, I'm so sorry to bother you. 415 00:21:37,363 --> 00:21:39,293 Where did you get that? 416 00:21:39,293 --> 00:21:40,437 And Steph and I... 417 00:21:40,437 --> 00:21:45,477 got the answer from her we turn right back around and found this place called Noble 418 00:21:45,477 --> 00:21:46,797 Castella. 419 00:21:47,137 --> 00:21:54,297 You can get any flavor of bubble tea, matcha, whatever in these teddy bear cups. 420 00:21:54,297 --> 00:21:59,317 It's expensive, it's eight dollars, but then you get to keep your teddy bear. 421 00:21:59,317 --> 00:22:01,637 Steph has already made iced coffee in hers. 422 00:22:03,797 --> 00:22:04,977 I can't wait to use mine. 423 00:22:04,977 --> 00:22:08,857 I'm going to put for those who are local to the Boston area, I'm obsessed with this 424 00:22:08,857 --> 00:22:11,427 thing called the red dragon iced tea from Sofra bakery. 425 00:22:11,427 --> 00:22:13,577 And I'm going to put that inside my beer. 426 00:22:13,577 --> 00:22:20,977 And I also had two heavenly slices of pizza from tender onies, which is one of 427 00:22:20,977 --> 00:22:24,377 chef Tiffany Faison's many outposts around Boston. 428 00:22:24,377 --> 00:22:28,297 And I didn't get the giant pizza. 429 00:22:28,717 --> 00:22:30,437 It was unbelievable. 430 00:22:30,437 --> 00:22:33,059 I got slices because. 431 00:22:42,586 --> 00:22:46,806 reminded me of like a gourmet version of Stouffer's French bed pizzas, which used 432 00:22:46,806 --> 00:22:48,504 to be like my go -to. 433 00:22:51,406 --> 00:22:57,886 you know, once I actually was young, I had a heart of peace, like crispy, and I could 434 00:22:57,886 --> 00:22:59,341 just put the cheese in the sauce. 435 00:22:59,341 --> 00:23:01,293 forward to eating that in the future. 436 00:23:02,773 --> 00:23:04,973 on other food related news. 437 00:23:04,973 --> 00:23:12,033 This week, I went back to this restaurant in Somerville called Josephine, which I've 438 00:23:12,033 --> 00:23:17,133 been to a couple of times now, and they had a new spring menu item, which was 439 00:23:17,133 --> 00:23:24,183 burrata with smashed avocado, and then this like delicious dressing situation. 440 00:23:24,183 --> 00:23:28,893 And I don't know why I was a bit hesitant, like, these are a lot of soft flavors. 441 00:23:28,893 --> 00:23:30,390 Is this gonna taste good together? 442 00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:30,810 you? 443 00:23:30,810 --> 00:23:33,530 It was the best thing we've had the entire year. 444 00:23:33,530 --> 00:23:34,317 I have thought of. 445 00:23:34,317 --> 00:23:36,377 it many times since. 446 00:23:36,377 --> 00:23:40,958 And I'm like, how soon is too soon to go back for burrata and avocado? 447 00:23:40,958 --> 00:23:43,898 isn't that the place that told us they didn't have mozzarella sticks and then we 448 00:23:43,898 --> 00:23:47,458 saw people have mozzarella sticks so we need to redo where I can have a mozzarella 449 00:23:47,458 --> 00:23:48,158 stick. 450 00:23:57,558 --> 00:24:02,278 don't think I told you guys that when I went to Brighton Bodega a couple weeks ago 451 00:24:02,278 --> 00:24:06,278 with Jen who had never been there before that we like ordered two things that we 452 00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:07,238 didn't really like. 453 00:24:07,238 --> 00:24:09,768 It was really upsetting. 454 00:24:09,768 --> 00:24:10,268 Okay. 455 00:24:10,268 --> 00:24:11,638 I know. 456 00:24:11,638 --> 00:24:12,028 Okay. 457 00:24:12,028 --> 00:24:13,326 One was a 458 00:24:13,326 --> 00:24:20,006 burrata salad that was like, like absolutely covered in diced multicolor 459 00:24:20,006 --> 00:24:26,086 tomatoes, but it had like no sauce or like anything like they put oil on it and I was 460 00:24:26,086 --> 00:24:27,966 like, that doesn't do anything. 461 00:24:27,966 --> 00:24:31,566 So it was just super bland and we ate maybe half of it. 462 00:24:31,566 --> 00:24:39,206 And then the other thing was a peanut butter and jelly Rangoon, which can I just 463 00:24:39,206 --> 00:24:40,294 tell you, 464 00:24:40,346 --> 00:24:41,734 it was a wonderful - 465 00:24:41,734 --> 00:24:43,774 filled with warm peanut butter. 466 00:24:43,774 --> 00:24:46,774 And then they gave us like a sweet chili sauce to dip it in. 467 00:24:46,774 --> 00:24:48,774 And we were like, what's the jam part? 468 00:24:48,774 --> 00:24:51,414 And they were like, the sweet chili sauce. 469 00:24:51,414 --> 00:24:54,714 We each managed down one. 470 00:24:54,714 --> 00:24:56,354 And they were like, do you want to pack these up? 471 00:24:56,354 --> 00:24:57,794 And we were like, absolutely not. 472 00:24:57,794 --> 00:25:00,494 So don't get either of those things when you go. 473 00:25:00,494 --> 00:25:02,454 Everything else we ordered was amazing. 474 00:25:02,454 --> 00:25:04,664 And most of it was things that I've had before. 475 00:25:04,664 --> 00:25:07,294 But we like went out on a limb on those two other things. 476 00:25:07,294 --> 00:25:09,258 And I love burrata. 477 00:25:09,258 --> 00:25:14,858 so I was really excited to see a new burrata twist on the menu. 478 00:25:14,858 --> 00:25:15,878 So planned. 479 00:25:15,878 --> 00:25:19,758 And I love that place, but those two items are rich. 480 00:25:20,118 --> 00:25:24,378 So you should take me to Jessica's, because that's what I'm saying. 481 00:25:24,378 --> 00:25:33,233 My other favorite was that it was an old, huge student in Hollywood. 482 00:25:33,233 --> 00:25:37,853 I'm coming to this recording after just having been in Hull for the last two days. 483 00:25:38,273 --> 00:25:42,433 My cousins are like in the mode where they're now like coming down every weekend 484 00:25:42,433 --> 00:25:46,133 and we like everybody packs their lunches for the beach and we hang out there for 485 00:25:46,133 --> 00:25:47,669 the full day and then we're like. 486 00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:50,929 walk off the beach and we're texting each other all the walk home like about where 487 00:25:50,929 --> 00:25:52,349 we're gonna have dinner. 488 00:25:52,349 --> 00:25:57,889 It's just like such a wonderful time of year where like the beach is just like 489 00:25:57,889 --> 00:26:01,349 full of all the people that I've known my whole life like the neighbors that we've 490 00:26:01,349 --> 00:26:03,589 seen a million times over. 491 00:26:03,609 --> 00:26:06,329 The ice cream truck returned today for the first time. 492 00:26:06,329 --> 00:26:10,589 I mean it's just like signs of summer and last night there was this like epically 493 00:26:10,589 --> 00:26:11,689 beautiful sunset. 494 00:26:11,689 --> 00:26:15,579 I posted one video of it on Instagram but there about 70 on my phone. 495 00:26:15,579 --> 00:26:17,828 It's just one of those nights where you're like 496 00:26:17,828 --> 00:26:23,598 I want to just implement this on my creative so I'm delightful, and I'm just 497 00:26:23,598 --> 00:26:26,998 saying it's like beautiful summer. 498 00:26:28,294 --> 00:26:32,834 I like to, when I feel like summer is gonna finally hit, which is kinda like 499 00:26:32,834 --> 00:26:36,214 ending this weekend because I don't have school tomorrow. 500 00:26:36,934 --> 00:26:40,354 I always like to watch the rest, mow back to summer. 501 00:26:40,354 --> 00:26:42,314 Like Sandlot. 502 00:26:43,034 --> 00:26:45,254 Or now and then. 503 00:26:45,254 --> 00:26:48,024 Sometimes it's just like, not easy. 504 00:26:48,024 --> 00:26:50,794 Like a banana bike needs to be involved. 505 00:26:50,794 --> 00:26:54,526 It's so, it's just so, and I'm - 506 00:26:54,526 --> 00:26:56,110 watch those movies like... 507 00:26:56,110 --> 00:27:01,190 at some point at the beginning of the summer and I'm just like It just it's like 508 00:27:01,190 --> 00:27:03,560 one of those like a pink lemonade You know what I mean? 509 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:08,190 Like it just like hits you and you're like, this is just In the book we're 510 00:27:08,190 --> 00:27:09,790 talking about today takes place during the summer. 511 00:27:09,790 --> 00:27:11,942 So that's kind of a fun segue as well 512 00:27:13,614 --> 00:27:17,384 So I don't know how I found out about this book. 513 00:27:17,384 --> 00:27:19,554 I was racking my brain. 514 00:27:20,414 --> 00:27:24,314 I think I literally just saw it at Brookline Booksmith and was like, this 515 00:27:24,314 --> 00:27:25,794 looks interesting. 516 00:27:26,314 --> 00:27:31,634 So this Golden State, I, nobody told me about it. 517 00:27:31,634 --> 00:27:32,934 I just found it. 518 00:27:32,934 --> 00:27:37,754 And then I was telling Molly and Steph, I was looking for a different book in my 519 00:27:37,754 --> 00:27:42,788 house because I have four or five to be read piles in my house. 520 00:27:42,830 --> 00:27:49,370 I was looking for a different book and I saw this Golden State buried at the bottom 521 00:27:49,370 --> 00:27:52,890 of this pile and it's the last pile I looked at. 522 00:27:52,890 --> 00:27:55,570 I was like, what's this one again? 523 00:27:55,750 --> 00:28:00,430 Then I looked at it and I was like, this is like a YA mystery. 524 00:28:00,430 --> 00:28:04,730 I had just come off reading Good Girl's Guide to Murder. 525 00:28:04,730 --> 00:28:07,190 I was like, I would love another YA mystery. 526 00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:09,030 That sounds terrific. 527 00:28:09,170 --> 00:28:12,878 I started reading it and basically, 528 00:28:12,878 --> 00:28:17,438 The very brief version of what you need to know about this book to know whether or 529 00:28:17,438 --> 00:28:22,138 not you would be interested in reading it is there is a girl named Poppy. 530 00:28:22,758 --> 00:28:28,698 And Poppy goes by a different name every place that she lives because her family is 531 00:28:28,698 --> 00:28:29,738 on the lam. 532 00:28:29,738 --> 00:28:32,438 And they have been since she was a little girl. 533 00:28:32,438 --> 00:28:36,538 And she has a younger sister whose name is Emma. 534 00:28:36,998 --> 00:28:41,608 And they're only allowed to use their real names within their house. 535 00:28:41,608 --> 00:28:42,894 They can't use... 536 00:28:42,894 --> 00:28:45,094 their real names anywhere else. 537 00:28:45,174 --> 00:28:51,614 And from the start of the book, not only do you not have any clue as to what 538 00:28:51,614 --> 00:28:57,554 they're on the lam from, but Emma and Poppy also don't know. 539 00:28:57,574 --> 00:29:02,034 And Emma's at an age where like she's starting to get a little curious and Poppy 540 00:29:02,034 --> 00:29:06,474 is getting to an age where she is very sick of not being able to put down any 541 00:29:06,474 --> 00:29:07,534 roots. 542 00:29:07,714 --> 00:29:12,750 She's not able to like stay in touch with friends once they leave a town. 543 00:29:12,782 --> 00:29:18,882 She's very smart and she's like, I want to go to college and like applying would be a 544 00:29:18,882 --> 00:29:22,582 problem because like, she doesn't even know where their family gets money from. 545 00:29:22,582 --> 00:29:27,322 Like they just pull up to certain places and her dad says that he's like picking up 546 00:29:27,322 --> 00:29:32,002 an envelope of stuff and then they get a new address and away they go. 547 00:29:32,062 --> 00:29:39,662 And she's turning 18 and she's like, I need to find out some things. 548 00:29:39,822 --> 00:29:41,294 And on a whim. 549 00:29:41,294 --> 00:29:46,014 at the very beginning of the book, she does like a spit DNA test that you kind of 550 00:29:46,014 --> 00:29:50,454 are like waiting throughout the book for that to like come to fruition and like, 551 00:29:50,454 --> 00:29:53,294 find out what it is that's going on. 552 00:29:53,454 --> 00:29:56,654 This book has a bunch of different twists. 553 00:29:56,654 --> 00:29:59,404 It has a bunch of different things going on. 554 00:29:59,404 --> 00:30:06,054 So it's like, how do you trust people that basically, I don't want to say have lied 555 00:30:06,054 --> 00:30:09,154 to you your whole life, but have omitted the truth? 556 00:30:09,434 --> 00:30:11,046 How do you... 557 00:30:11,278 --> 00:30:17,958 survive in a situation where it's like, if you go, like if you veer from the planet 558 00:30:17,958 --> 00:30:20,718 all you're putting your entire family at risk. 559 00:30:20,718 --> 00:30:25,078 Their entire motto is do whatever you need to do to keep us together. 560 00:30:25,078 --> 00:30:30,558 That's like, like their entire childhood, that's how they operate. 561 00:30:30,558 --> 00:30:33,818 And she's starting to have these like bigger dreams. 562 00:30:33,818 --> 00:30:35,398 And she doesn't really know what to do with them. 563 00:30:35,398 --> 00:30:39,438 Because she's like, if I have these dreams, I'm sacrificing everybody in my 564 00:30:39,438 --> 00:30:40,270 family. 565 00:30:40,270 --> 00:30:44,010 And I don't even really know what the consequences would be because nobody even 566 00:30:44,010 --> 00:30:46,870 trusts me to tell me what it is that we're hiding. 567 00:30:47,250 --> 00:30:52,790 And then in the midst of that, she has her first love, which makes her like take some 568 00:30:52,790 --> 00:30:55,790 risks that she normally wouldn't take. 569 00:30:55,790 --> 00:31:01,530 And it's just this like really intriguing page turning story. 570 00:31:01,530 --> 00:31:06,170 And it sounds like, you know, like a big mystery and like there's going to be these 571 00:31:06,170 --> 00:31:08,664 reveals and twists and there are. 572 00:31:08,750 --> 00:31:11,620 But in the midst of it, I also like cried. 573 00:31:11,620 --> 00:31:15,670 I cried reading this book because of the sacrifices that they're making, because of 574 00:31:15,670 --> 00:31:16,950 the unknown. 575 00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:21,130 When things are revealed, it's not what you think it's going to be. 576 00:31:21,250 --> 00:31:25,870 And it's just, and everybody in her family kind of has like a different reaction to 577 00:31:25,870 --> 00:31:27,210 having to hide all these things. 578 00:31:27,210 --> 00:31:31,010 And they like push it down and deal with it in different ways. 579 00:31:31,010 --> 00:31:37,264 And you watch that unfold and you just see how different people. 580 00:31:37,702 --> 00:31:42,482 to having fear, knowing what the consequences are. 581 00:31:42,862 --> 00:31:45,602 And it just really surprised me. 582 00:31:45,602 --> 00:31:48,302 This book really surprised me a lot of ways. 583 00:31:48,302 --> 00:31:53,622 And I was shocked that I hadn't heard about it before because it's really good. 584 00:31:53,622 --> 00:31:55,002 And I love it. 585 00:31:55,002 --> 00:31:58,722 And everything I've been doing so far, I think, has also helped. 586 00:31:59,262 --> 00:32:04,742 I think having just come off of All My Rage, this, to me, 587 00:32:04,742 --> 00:32:10,882 this read like clear YA compared to that one because that one, I don't know if it 588 00:32:10,882 --> 00:32:16,542 was the writing style or somehow that felt more serious, even though they're both 589 00:32:16,542 --> 00:32:18,162 very serious topics. 590 00:32:18,242 --> 00:32:24,182 This one felt like to me it was very clearly in the YA genre. 591 00:32:24,202 --> 00:32:30,462 With that being said, one of my favorite, it's not like a trope, but it's like a 592 00:32:30,462 --> 00:32:31,166 plot. 593 00:32:31,398 --> 00:32:39,438 discovery thing is when children realize the parents they thought they knew or not. 594 00:32:39,598 --> 00:32:45,138 There's some, even in adult literature, there's something about a character having 595 00:32:45,138 --> 00:32:52,298 to reconcile their self -image of their parent growing up with discovering the 596 00:32:52,298 --> 00:32:53,998 person is not who. 597 00:32:53,998 --> 00:32:58,078 Not even in necessarily this scenario, which this is like a very drastic 598 00:32:58,078 --> 00:33:01,534 scenario, but like, I can't even think of like a... 599 00:33:01,545 --> 00:33:02,005 them. 600 00:33:02,005 --> 00:33:04,475 There's something so true about them. 601 00:33:04,475 --> 00:33:13,285 Maybe it's, you know, some sort of self -stopped, just a whole childhood versus 602 00:33:13,285 --> 00:33:15,182 having to go, you know, like, to the church. 603 00:33:15,182 --> 00:33:18,022 on the way that you thought they were. 604 00:33:19,026 --> 00:33:20,726 I also... 605 00:33:20,726 --> 00:33:21,662 Yes. 606 00:33:21,662 --> 00:33:25,722 an adult and you're like, they're actually not very good at adulting and they just 607 00:33:25,722 --> 00:33:27,418 fooled me this whole time 608 00:33:27,418 --> 00:33:31,098 think it because in this story, you're it's like very drastic. 609 00:33:31,098 --> 00:33:37,378 You're learning the secrets that were kept and who the parents truly were before. 610 00:33:37,378 --> 00:33:40,048 So this is like the most extreme version of that. 611 00:33:40,048 --> 00:33:44,388 But I feel like maybe it's like primarily in women's literature. 612 00:33:44,388 --> 00:33:49,978 I just there's something about reconciling your parents aren't who you thought they 613 00:33:49,978 --> 00:33:52,040 were, you know, that I just love. 614 00:33:53,109 --> 00:33:54,349 I love this book. 615 00:33:54,349 --> 00:33:57,609 I also had not heard of it until Caitlin was like, I read this and loved it and we 616 00:33:57,609 --> 00:33:59,149 should discuss it. 617 00:33:59,189 --> 00:34:02,299 I didn't know if it was a YA or not when I started it. 618 00:34:02,299 --> 00:34:05,749 And I think I was maybe one chapter in when I was like, I think this is YA, but 619 00:34:05,749 --> 00:34:10,529 also I would totally believe if it isn't because it just covers so many mature and 620 00:34:10,529 --> 00:34:12,309 intense topics. 621 00:34:12,309 --> 00:34:14,429 I agree with everything that both of you have said. 622 00:34:14,429 --> 00:34:16,909 There were two things that really stuck out to me. 623 00:34:16,909 --> 00:34:22,149 The first is that it was reminding me so much of Tara Westover's Educated 624 00:34:22,149 --> 00:34:23,054 because... 625 00:34:23,054 --> 00:34:29,194 she's like with a dad, unless I'm a credit -based girl, they can't let you do. 626 00:34:29,294 --> 00:34:32,874 He's very, like, radical because you just don't know what's happening with her about 627 00:34:32,874 --> 00:34:33,634 you. 628 00:34:33,634 --> 00:34:40,234 Just the idea of being a good teacher as a young adult and just like your entire 629 00:34:40,234 --> 00:34:40,657 family. 630 00:34:40,657 --> 00:34:42,697 squandered by your circumstances. 631 00:34:42,697 --> 00:34:44,977 So it reminds me a bit of that. 632 00:34:44,977 --> 00:34:48,937 But also there is a professor in this story. 633 00:34:49,517 --> 00:34:52,595 Poppy's taking a summer math class at Stanford. 634 00:34:53,045 --> 00:34:56,925 she's naturally gifted, which I was like, my God, she's like good will hunting, but 635 00:34:56,925 --> 00:34:57,805 Poppy. 636 00:34:58,465 --> 00:35:02,025 And the professor really takes like a keen interest in her from the very first day. 637 00:35:02,025 --> 00:35:05,925 The professor definitely thinks she's being abused as she tries to figure out 638 00:35:05,925 --> 00:35:09,205 why she can't like, doesn't have a computer, she doesn't have access to 639 00:35:09,205 --> 00:35:11,125 email, she's not allowed to like do certain things. 640 00:35:11,125 --> 00:35:13,785 They try to get her an internship and she turns it down. 641 00:35:13,785 --> 00:35:17,325 Like there's a lot of things where the professor just sees like red flag after 642 00:35:17,325 --> 00:35:20,465 red flag after red flag, but she never gives up on her. 643 00:35:20,465 --> 00:35:22,573 She just continues to try to. 644 00:35:22,810 --> 00:35:27,270 sort of like open things up, like see if she'll come off of it, like continually 645 00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:30,930 there's a lot of opportunities for her to think about things in a different light. 646 00:35:30,930 --> 00:35:35,290 And Gail and Prachi also have the first love story, so she meets a guy, he's not a 647 00:35:35,290 --> 00:35:40,730 scary, and they just like really have the blinding eye vision of something to each 648 00:35:40,730 --> 00:35:41,090 other. 649 00:35:41,090 --> 00:35:44,361 He has an interesting backstory to what it's not. 650 00:35:44,361 --> 00:35:45,791 is a very public figure. 651 00:35:45,791 --> 00:35:47,125 She's a politician. 652 00:35:47,125 --> 00:35:50,325 His dad is supposed to be the founder of like a Google like company. 653 00:35:50,325 --> 00:35:54,685 So he also is under a lot of pressure to behave in a certain way and not talk about 654 00:35:54,685 --> 00:35:55,345 certain things. 655 00:35:55,345 --> 00:36:00,565 And they just kind of find this like kinship in their isolation, I would say. 656 00:36:00,565 --> 00:36:04,465 And their relationship unfolded in a way that I wasn't expecting. 657 00:36:04,465 --> 00:36:07,785 I'm not going to say more because I want people to read it and enjoy it, but I am 658 00:36:07,785 --> 00:36:09,515 always rooting for a happy ending. 659 00:36:09,515 --> 00:36:11,285 That's just like how I'm hardwired. 660 00:36:11,285 --> 00:36:15,165 And in these stories, you just kind of never know where it's going to go. 661 00:36:15,165 --> 00:36:16,583 And I was. 662 00:36:17,429 --> 00:36:21,109 prepared either way with them, that they could wind up together, they could not 663 00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:25,529 wind up together, but I was gonna be happy either way just because of how they impact 664 00:36:25,529 --> 00:36:28,507 in each other's like view of the world. 665 00:36:28,702 --> 00:36:29,942 trajectory. 666 00:36:30,005 --> 00:36:31,525 and trajectory. 667 00:36:31,525 --> 00:36:35,725 I also thought Steph is great at like predicting where stories are going. 668 00:36:35,725 --> 00:36:36,985 I really not. 669 00:36:36,985 --> 00:36:40,845 I didn't see the identity of the parents at all. 670 00:36:40,845 --> 00:36:44,625 Like when it finally got revealed, I was like, my God, this is like so much more 671 00:36:44,625 --> 00:36:48,077 involved and insane than I thought it was going to be. 672 00:36:48,102 --> 00:36:52,035 clearly taken from true crime stories. 673 00:36:52,035 --> 00:36:55,605 yes, but I also felt like it really paid off. 674 00:36:55,605 --> 00:36:59,065 Like the feeling you had the whole book where you were like, why are they always 675 00:36:59,065 --> 00:36:59,554 on the run? 676 00:36:59,554 --> 00:37:01,702 Why do they keep doing this to their daughters? 677 00:37:01,702 --> 00:37:05,782 Can I just interject that at one point I did wonder what if one of them is having 678 00:37:05,782 --> 00:37:12,062 like a mental illness and it's all built up in their own head and it's not a real, 679 00:37:12,602 --> 00:37:13,911 you know? 680 00:37:13,911 --> 00:37:14,661 yes. 681 00:37:14,661 --> 00:37:19,461 And also, I just want to say, I put a little sticky on this is page six of this 682 00:37:19,461 --> 00:37:23,001 book, like early, where she just says, this is Poppy's voice. 683 00:37:23,001 --> 00:37:27,681 Usually I saw it coming a month, a week, definitely a couple of days in advance. 684 00:37:27,681 --> 00:37:29,361 This one I hadn't sensed at all. 685 00:37:29,361 --> 00:37:32,001 I thought for sure I get to finish this school year. 686 00:37:32,001 --> 00:37:36,961 It's like you keep feeling her disappointment and also her desire to like 687 00:37:36,961 --> 00:37:40,641 keep her heart and mind open to new people and new experiences, but knowing she's 688 00:37:40,641 --> 00:37:41,677 just going to get. 689 00:37:41,941 --> 00:37:45,401 like kicked down over and over and over again. 690 00:37:45,401 --> 00:37:46,311 I loved this. 691 00:37:46,311 --> 00:37:52,241 I thought it was really interesting and I didn't know where it was going so I just 692 00:37:52,241 --> 00:37:57,541 kept wanting to know what was gonna happen and also I love a short chapter. 693 00:37:57,541 --> 00:38:01,101 This book has really short chapters in a way where I would finish one and be like, 694 00:38:01,101 --> 00:38:04,541 I can do one more or I can do one more and then you wind up finishing the book faster 695 00:38:04,541 --> 00:38:09,361 anyway but I appreciated that there were these little like breaks to let you decide 696 00:38:09,361 --> 00:38:10,253 if you. 697 00:38:17,538 --> 00:38:21,858 want to always get off the spot on anything, but I actually was mad that I 698 00:38:21,858 --> 00:38:23,158 didn't get corrected. 699 00:38:23,198 --> 00:38:30,038 I'm going to finish up my time book where the parents' back story, because I was in 700 00:38:30,038 --> 00:38:33,290 love with America, was kind of... 701 00:38:33,290 --> 00:38:38,170 It obviously is explained, but like I want to know what they were thinking in their 702 00:38:38,170 --> 00:38:40,330 minds as they were living through that. 703 00:38:40,330 --> 00:38:42,321 But I also want to... 704 00:38:42,321 --> 00:38:43,201 see you all. 705 00:38:43,201 --> 00:38:44,141 I've seen you. 706 00:38:48,546 --> 00:38:56,038 agree and also in my head like when I was reading the book you find out like 707 00:38:56,494 --> 00:39:01,154 when the traumatic thing happened that led to them being on the lam, like the mom was 708 00:39:01,154 --> 00:39:05,034 already pregnant with Poppy, but then she has Emma, her younger sister. 709 00:39:05,034 --> 00:39:09,194 And I'm like, on what planet did they think it was a good idea to have Emma when 710 00:39:09,194 --> 00:39:12,764 this is now you've got four people you've got to try and move around. 711 00:39:12,764 --> 00:39:15,524 And there just wasn't like really an explanation for that. 712 00:39:15,524 --> 00:39:17,654 And I don't think that spoils anything for anybody. 713 00:39:17,654 --> 00:39:19,754 It's just like that doesn't come around. 714 00:39:19,754 --> 00:39:23,437 And I feel like in a prequel or a sequel, 715 00:39:23,437 --> 00:39:28,377 we could get mid -prime time, and it also sounds bad, but it's been such a great 716 00:39:28,377 --> 00:39:30,427 career that I wanted to know more about. 717 00:39:30,427 --> 00:39:35,297 This is obviously relevant, and I think that that's a hot topic to stick in the 718 00:39:35,297 --> 00:39:36,297 DAP party. 719 00:39:36,297 --> 00:39:38,926 And it's just in the... 720 00:39:38,926 --> 00:39:44,166 mention of his backstory, you're like, I need to know why he made that choice. 721 00:39:44,474 --> 00:39:52,174 And I feel like I would like to know more about him and kind of how it all unfolded. 722 00:39:52,534 --> 00:39:57,214 And yeah, it just, there's, there's a lot there that she could dig into a little 723 00:39:57,214 --> 00:39:57,754 more. 724 00:39:57,754 --> 00:40:02,174 I think this would be an unbelievable short TV series. 725 00:40:03,014 --> 00:40:05,734 Eight to 10 episodes, I think would be brilliant. 726 00:40:06,118 --> 00:40:09,098 I feel like you know who would do it fantastic? 727 00:40:09,178 --> 00:40:10,424 Cadley Mack. 728 00:40:11,110 --> 00:40:12,960 yeah, Karina Adley -Mackenzie. 729 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:18,150 She's doing the adaptation for We Were Liars, which I believe that they're 730 00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:22,170 combining the prequel and the original. 731 00:40:22,970 --> 00:40:25,730 I don't know if they're doing like Flash, but I don't know how they're really doing 732 00:40:25,730 --> 00:40:26,170 it. 733 00:40:26,170 --> 00:40:30,430 But I feel like, yeah, she would be really good at. 734 00:40:30,430 --> 00:40:34,950 But I'm telling you, we need our listeners to pump this book out. 735 00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:37,478 Like, we're trying to, but we need... 736 00:40:37,478 --> 00:40:42,878 Everybody's been told, as a further point, that I saw the e -book store the other day 737 00:40:42,878 --> 00:40:47,134 and I was like shocked that it was like a copy of which else because I had no clue. 738 00:40:47,134 --> 00:40:49,314 haven't heard anything else about it. 739 00:40:49,314 --> 00:40:53,214 And I didn't look this author up, but I think I did look her up at one point and 740 00:40:53,214 --> 00:40:55,654 she doesn't have any other books, I don't think. 741 00:40:55,654 --> 00:40:57,774 Or if she does, they're not YA. 742 00:40:57,774 --> 00:41:02,814 Now I'm, now I'm backtracking on what I said, but I, I am pretty sure if she had 743 00:41:02,814 --> 00:41:05,012 other books, I would have already bought them. 744 00:41:05,590 --> 00:41:10,649 I think this is her first book and also... 745 00:41:10,649 --> 00:41:14,929 thought the entire time this should make it to the screen because the characters, 746 00:41:14,929 --> 00:41:19,729 as you already said, are so rich, so layered, so flawed. 747 00:41:19,729 --> 00:41:24,529 Like I could just easily see, and also the natural tension from the fact that they're 748 00:41:24,529 --> 00:41:27,749 always on the run just sort of keeps your adrenaline up. 749 00:41:27,969 --> 00:41:30,639 but then you get the love story, you get the mentorship thing. 750 00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:35,533 There was really, it was so thoughtful and I loved it. 751 00:41:36,646 --> 00:41:39,286 can tell you right now I know why I bought this book. 752 00:41:39,286 --> 00:41:45,046 The epitaph at the beginning, California, I'm coming home, Joni Mitchell. 753 00:41:45,246 --> 00:41:46,786 Joni's my girl. 754 00:41:46,946 --> 00:41:50,466 Taylor and Joni are my girls, in case anybody was wondering. 755 00:41:50,466 --> 00:41:52,476 And so that would have sold me right there. 756 00:41:52,476 --> 00:41:55,956 If you have something about Taylor at the beginning of your book or Joni Mitchell, 757 00:41:55,956 --> 00:41:57,256 I'm probably going to buy it. 758 00:41:57,256 --> 00:41:58,798 Joan Didion is my third girl. 759 00:41:58,798 --> 00:42:01,766 If you mention any of those three people, I'm going to buy your book. 760 00:42:03,598 --> 00:42:05,138 Sorry, not sorry. 761 00:42:05,738 --> 00:42:07,632 What are people reading? 762 00:42:07,666 --> 00:42:14,366 I am currently reading a book called The Murder After the Night Before by Katie 763 00:42:14,366 --> 00:42:15,066 Brent. 764 00:42:15,066 --> 00:42:16,586 It was the cover that got me. 765 00:42:16,586 --> 00:42:19,176 I got this at Belmont Books. 766 00:42:19,176 --> 00:42:21,346 It's a hot pink cover. 767 00:42:22,266 --> 00:42:25,186 This is a messy book in the best way. 768 00:42:25,186 --> 00:42:32,526 It is about a woman and now I'm blanking on her name, which is so embarrassing. 769 00:42:34,409 --> 00:42:40,829 holiday party happened one day and she starts looking to follow the boy as she 770 00:42:40,829 --> 00:42:47,268 wakes up fully dressed in the night form with the strength and the men who those 771 00:42:47,268 --> 00:42:50,310 concocted her and she doesn't have to tell him that she shouldn't. 772 00:42:50,310 --> 00:42:52,290 remember meeting this person. 773 00:42:52,950 --> 00:42:58,950 And she's on her way to work when she realizes people are kind of... 774 00:42:58,950 --> 00:43:02,910 at her, looking at her, laughing at her, and when she gets into work, how do we put 775 00:43:02,910 --> 00:43:04,610 our pulls into everything. 776 00:43:04,610 --> 00:43:11,850 And basically a direct video is only a picture of her giving a screen time 777 00:43:11,850 --> 00:43:17,020 because it's from a distance of look, and it's all the way in front. 778 00:43:17,020 --> 00:43:22,758 And so she is worked at as a public relations, also working as a job worker. 779 00:43:22,758 --> 00:43:23,228 it. 780 00:43:23,228 --> 00:43:28,269 And when she heads home, she soon discovers that her... 781 00:43:28,269 --> 00:43:34,789 best friend's last roommate has died of a disease in her bathroom. 782 00:43:35,989 --> 00:43:40,289 And she has it from remembering someone who had been living with her for a long 783 00:43:40,289 --> 00:43:40,559 time. 784 00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:43,209 And she thought it was her good son who had inflated them. 785 00:43:43,209 --> 00:43:45,466 That's what I thought was right. 786 00:43:45,466 --> 00:43:46,826 it. 787 00:43:47,146 --> 00:43:49,326 It's messy in the best way. 788 00:43:49,326 --> 00:43:51,486 It's short chapters. 789 00:43:51,606 --> 00:43:53,806 There's, I mean, I'm not that far into it. 790 00:43:53,806 --> 00:43:55,070 I'd say I'm. 791 00:43:57,525 --> 00:43:58,206 Very big time. 792 00:43:58,206 --> 00:44:01,166 in, so much action has happened. 793 00:44:01,166 --> 00:44:07,906 You feel for this person because her life is basically spiraling the drain. 794 00:44:08,286 --> 00:44:12,726 And you want to know what the heck happened at this party that she just got 795 00:44:12,726 --> 00:44:14,406 blackout drunk and has no recollection. 796 00:44:14,406 --> 00:44:17,506 But you also want to know what the heck is happening with the best friend. 797 00:44:17,506 --> 00:44:20,514 So it's a fun read. 798 00:44:25,717 --> 00:44:30,677 I'm reading One Last Summer by Kate Spencer, who we mentioned last episode and 799 00:44:30,677 --> 00:44:32,057 possibly the one before. 800 00:44:32,057 --> 00:44:38,537 This is a story about a woman named Clara who is working at a startup. 801 00:44:38,537 --> 00:44:42,677 And in the first couple of pages, her boss, the founder, is making an all 802 00:44:42,677 --> 00:44:48,217 company announcement about how in order to help people have like great balance, work 803 00:44:48,217 --> 00:44:52,057 -life balance and mental health, they're going to start initiating what they call 804 00:44:52,057 --> 00:44:53,374 mini sabbaticals. 805 00:44:53,374 --> 00:44:55,774 And she's a U .S. 806 00:44:55,774 --> 00:44:55,969 citizen. 807 00:44:55,969 --> 00:44:59,469 their team can nominate them for one if they think they need a break. 808 00:44:59,469 --> 00:45:03,389 And she decides to pick on Clara in front of the whole company and say, like, you 809 00:45:03,389 --> 00:45:07,889 are the most burnt out person here and your sabbatical starts right now. 810 00:45:08,069 --> 00:45:16,609 So she uses the sudden time off to go to New Hampshire, to go to a summer camp 811 00:45:16,609 --> 00:45:17,829 reunion. 812 00:45:18,129 --> 00:45:21,549 So I am only 40 pages in, but. 813 00:45:21,685 --> 00:45:25,935 I'm very excited to see where this goes as is well documented here on this podcast. 814 00:45:25,935 --> 00:45:27,565 I'm a big summer camp person. 815 00:45:27,565 --> 00:45:29,965 I went for most of my life. 816 00:45:29,965 --> 00:45:33,005 The friends that I have from that time are still some of my best friends to this day. 817 00:45:33,005 --> 00:45:38,245 So I can't wait to like fall down this New England summer camp rabbit hole. 818 00:45:38,685 --> 00:45:41,635 and it opens just like on quite a dramatic note. 819 00:45:41,635 --> 00:45:47,705 And I also love on the very first page, Clara is standing next to her assistant as 820 00:45:47,705 --> 00:45:49,286 this announcement is being made. 821 00:45:49,286 --> 00:45:52,606 And the thought that he says the same as the lady, that we just can't start, you 822 00:45:52,606 --> 00:45:53,186 know? 823 00:45:53,186 --> 00:45:58,066 And I just love that it's all, you know, points and events on a personal level. 824 00:45:58,066 --> 00:46:01,286 And I can't wait to go out to live with him, because I think I'll finish pretty 825 00:46:01,286 --> 00:46:02,406 quickly. 826 00:46:02,406 --> 00:46:05,266 And then we'll go to the house and I'll do the house. 827 00:46:07,118 --> 00:46:12,558 I'm doing my homework, which means the kid that I tutor got assigned summer reading 828 00:46:12,558 --> 00:46:13,538 books. 829 00:46:13,538 --> 00:46:20,358 He was given a very large list of books that he could choose his second book from, 830 00:46:20,358 --> 00:46:25,188 but everybody entering seventh grade at his school was assigned the first book, 831 00:46:25,188 --> 00:46:28,896 which is the graphic novel New Kid by Jerry Craft. 832 00:46:30,030 --> 00:46:34,130 I find it very interesting that this is the book that was selected as the required 833 00:46:34,130 --> 00:46:38,410 reading for everybody going into seventh grade at his posh private school, because 834 00:46:38,410 --> 00:46:43,110 it is about a, it's based on the author's real life. 835 00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:46,190 He grew up in Washington Heights in New York city. 836 00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:52,610 He ended up wanting to go to an art school and instead his parents got him on a 837 00:46:52,610 --> 00:46:57,270 scholarship to this like she private school where he was one of like four non 838 00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:59,168 -white kids in the whole school. 839 00:46:59,505 --> 00:47:07,806 And so the book starts on the 12th and the kids are reading like, you know, passive 840 00:47:07,806 --> 00:47:12,066 aggressive comments about like, you're so much like the, you know, free algebra 841 00:47:12,066 --> 00:47:12,618 teacher. 842 00:47:12,618 --> 00:47:15,758 then like, he gets to class and the pre -algebra teacher is black. 843 00:47:15,758 --> 00:47:20,458 So it's just like, it's these like aggressions that like the kids don't even 844 00:47:20,458 --> 00:47:25,158 realize that they're doing, but, and you know, it's just, there's like a lot of 845 00:47:25,158 --> 00:47:27,238 things going on there. 846 00:47:27,632 --> 00:47:34,632 And I found it interesting because the kid that I tutor is not white. 847 00:47:34,632 --> 00:47:38,572 And so I was very excited to see what his perspective is because he goes to a 848 00:47:38,572 --> 00:47:40,912 predominantly white private school. 849 00:47:40,912 --> 00:47:43,554 So this pool was like, 850 00:47:43,554 --> 00:47:46,534 going into seventh grade has to read this graphic novel. 851 00:47:46,534 --> 00:47:49,794 I'm like, this is like, did they roll up their sleeves? 852 00:47:49,794 --> 00:47:51,205 Because this could really 853 00:47:51,205 --> 00:47:54,582 And also, I found that the school was too hard for me to get in. 854 00:47:54,582 --> 00:47:57,922 over the summer where they're not getting any guidance. 855 00:47:57,922 --> 00:48:01,922 Like I know that they'll follow up in the fall about it and like they will obviously 856 00:48:01,922 --> 00:48:05,582 talk about it as their like one shared read. 857 00:48:05,582 --> 00:48:09,842 But like it's got a lot going on and like he didn't get a lot of information about 858 00:48:09,842 --> 00:48:10,402 it beforehand. 859 00:48:10,402 --> 00:48:12,222 He had never even read a graphic novel. 860 00:48:12,222 --> 00:48:16,642 I had to like explain to him how you go through the panels and like how to look at 861 00:48:16,642 --> 00:48:18,626 it and how to think about it. 862 00:48:18,626 --> 00:48:22,226 And he's like, we want us to do, like, stick these very contradictions. 863 00:48:22,226 --> 00:48:25,906 We want us to do stick notes to report our thinking, because we're going to be doing 864 00:48:25,906 --> 00:48:28,786 a bunch of activities when we go back to school. 865 00:48:28,786 --> 00:48:29,696 A little bit of a lot of it. 866 00:48:29,696 --> 00:48:31,846 He's like, there aren't that many words here. 867 00:48:31,846 --> 00:48:32,936 Like, I'm not even aware of that. 868 00:48:32,936 --> 00:48:36,726 And I was like, we will work on that. 869 00:48:36,726 --> 00:48:38,746 I was like, you really have to look at the pictures. 870 00:48:38,746 --> 00:48:40,566 I was like, everything's dialogue. 871 00:48:40,566 --> 00:48:41,966 There's no. 872 00:48:42,246 --> 00:48:44,426 And he was like, I didn't really think about that. 873 00:48:44,426 --> 00:48:47,286 And I'm like, yeah, you have to look at where these speech bubbles are coming. 874 00:48:47,286 --> 00:48:47,926 from. 875 00:48:47,926 --> 00:48:52,406 Like, did somebody find the details that I had to go over with because he had never 876 00:48:52,406 --> 00:48:54,046 read a graphic novel before? 877 00:48:54,046 --> 00:48:59,006 I think I actually taught someone how to approach this before. 878 00:48:59,006 --> 00:49:01,146 So that was really interesting. 879 00:49:01,826 --> 00:49:03,376 The book so far is really good. 880 00:49:03,376 --> 00:49:04,946 I'm about halfway through. 881 00:49:04,946 --> 00:49:06,526 It's won a bunch of awards. 882 00:49:06,526 --> 00:49:09,866 It's been on the site two or three times for a long time. 883 00:49:09,866 --> 00:49:11,714 I've never really... 884 00:49:11,714 --> 00:49:14,874 I've never taught a graphic novel before actually. 885 00:49:14,874 --> 00:49:15,902 And so. 886 00:49:15,902 --> 00:49:21,582 there are a lot of times that I'm trying to be in line to see if I fit in 887 00:49:21,582 --> 00:49:22,502 something. 888 00:49:22,502 --> 00:49:26,722 And so this was kind of like a shrug to the bottom of my list because it never was 889 00:49:26,722 --> 00:49:28,082 a good spot. 890 00:49:28,102 --> 00:49:33,602 So I'm not going to have fun in it because I have to do really good things. 891 00:49:33,782 --> 00:49:38,562 And I'm going to be doing some writing activities to kind of get you thinking 892 00:49:38,562 --> 00:49:40,202 about what's going on. 893 00:49:40,202 --> 00:49:44,002 I doubt that he really is that carefully looking at the pictures and there's like 894 00:49:44,002 --> 00:49:45,976 one particular scene. 895 00:49:46,217 --> 00:49:48,637 one of the kids gets called an Oreo. 896 00:49:48,717 --> 00:49:50,114 And then like a picture 897 00:49:50,114 --> 00:49:54,894 and the main character's name is Jordan and the other character's name is Jerry. 898 00:49:54,894 --> 00:49:59,414 So Jordan is like, I know exactly what that means and then he draws a self 899 00:49:59,414 --> 00:50:01,934 -portrait of himself where his head is an Oreo. 900 00:50:01,934 --> 00:50:04,654 It's like white on the inside, black on the outside. 901 00:50:06,014 --> 00:50:10,034 Anyways, there's just a lot of interesting things going on and Grout is picking up on 902 00:50:10,034 --> 00:50:10,354 that. 903 00:50:10,354 --> 00:50:13,774 of them because he's probably rushing through it and it's the summer and he's 904 00:50:13,774 --> 00:50:14,582 12. 905 00:50:14,591 --> 00:50:18,591 So I would first take a look at that, what the difference is going to have. 906 00:50:19,248 --> 00:50:22,948 professional and I call him a lot of evidence in my project called The Go -Shit 907 00:50:22,948 --> 00:50:23,948 Moments. 908 00:50:24,428 --> 00:50:27,788 So I'm looking forward to that because I think it'll be good. 909 00:50:27,788 --> 00:50:31,808 We'll have some good moments and some bad stuff. 910 00:50:31,808 --> 00:50:35,408 It's not the bad stuff that I feel because I feel like, yeah, this is happening to 911 00:50:35,408 --> 00:50:35,658 me. 912 00:50:35,658 --> 00:50:39,730 I just have a feeling that there's going to be some connections there. 913 00:50:39,730 --> 00:50:42,260 we're going to unpack a little bit and it'll be good. 914 00:50:42,260 --> 00:50:43,766 I think it'll be really good. 915 00:50:44,341 --> 00:50:48,021 I hope you'll give us an update when 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