Lost city, billions of diamonds, Nazi agents,
colonels. Sir, you must think I was born. Yesterday for the
auntie's time. It's true. And keep your
voice down. Don't want the whole world to know. Jack,
why do you think we're here? I'll get all of you to
Abu Abu and then you're on your own.
What's wrong? Coming to the territory of the Water Warriors.
Is that bad? Very bad. Don't think
I like the way he said that. We don't know much about them, except they
are killers. Okay, everybody, just keep your eyes peeled.
Hello, folks. Welcome to CinemaBeef podcast. I am one of your
hosts, Gary Hill. And with you tonight is Suzanne.
Greetings from the person that spent two hours poking themselves in the eye trying
to get used to contacts.
Nice. Sometimes that vanity thing is a
real. Ain't it? You know, just that you don't know where there's heavy glasses.
Oh, I just. Just want to be able to see.
Right. That's all. Yeah, there's that.
There's that with us
tonight also, you know, still carrying that torch for subpar chicken
sandwiches because he loves so much that makes.
They Must be destroyed on Site podcast. Mr. Lee Russell is here.
How you doing, sir? Great. And the, the joke is of course that I don't
like the McChicken. Actually. I think it's also a piece of.
But just, just comparison. One of the.
Comparing one of the like, worst fast food sandwiches to like
the most rotten, disgusting looking food in the world.
It's just, it's that. That's basically the joke. But yeah,
it's like, you know, soggy lettuce on a chicken
patty with subpar mayonnaise. It just sounds delicious.
No, not at all, man. That seasoned patty,
though, God damn. You know.
You can disaster. You just ask for that,
Take that, take that out of the sandwich and throw the, throw the extra
away. The, the demographics will give me that special kind of drunk
that. That would eat that and say, yeah, but, you know,
sober, not so much, you know. Well, that's. That's what
the Burger King have it your way is for. It's for the people
who are drunk at like 2:00am, you know,
or those. Subpar chicken sandwiches that are not Popeyes or
try to be like Popeyes. And you know, it just. This is a Popeyes
chicken sandwich. It just, it's just not. You know, I've never,
I've never had Popeyes. But we have a chain up here
in Canada. I think there's a few in America too, called Mary
Browns. Which is really, really good. So it
sounds like maybe a Southern thing, like Bojangles. We don't have that here either.
But that's, that's, that's a Southern thing. Suzanne knows about
it, probably. Oh, yeah.
Oh my gosh. That's enough talking about food. We're all very starving now, I'm sure,
for delightful soggy lettuce. But yes,
I was actually smart. I got dinner done and
I told Pat. I'm like, I don't want to be shoveling food in my mouth
at 7:55. Can we please just
move this along? And he said, I want to see the face up.
I'm like, just get me the bowl.
See, the problem the women are, is. And I. I live with one that
pulls the so what are we having for dinner thing.
And then you have no preference, but they're still pressing the fact
that what do we have for dinner? What will make you complain?
Just explain this to me, please. You know, and then we'll have that,
you know.
Wow. I think you. I think you share
some of the sexist attitudes of one of the movies we're covering tonight.
Oh, gosh, it's just, it's. It's an annoyance,
Lee. I'm not her husband or, or her boyfriend, and, you know,
I'm that other animal, so there's that, you know. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, we'll get into all that. But I'll get into it right now.
Ask Lee what he's been watching lately. All right, I'll just mention
two things real quick.
So I do a little thing where
I. I screen movies sometimes for. For my friends on Saturday
nights when I'm not podcasting. And so
it was, you know, it's Black History Month still as we're recording.
And I tend to do black exploitation films in
February, so one of the ones we did last
weekend was the Black Gestapo.
A little bit of tie in to what we're covering tonight.
But yeah, it. With a name like
Black Gestapo, you would think it would probably be the most extreme,
like, just on the nose exploitation
of that concept that you could possibly think of. But it actually isn't
as bad as it sounds. It's basically just,
you know, exploiting the idea of, like, black power movements at
the time. And like, what if one went so over the
edge that they basically just started emulating Nazis
and basically just become Nazis by the end?
And it doesn't really interrogate that idea all that
much. It just uses that as a kind of high concept kind of idea to
do a really good exploitation Black exploitation film with
a lot of killing, a lot of titties,
and a lot of fun performances. It's got
Charles Robinson from Night Court as the main.
The main black Nazi, basically. Oh, my God.
Yeah, so that's. That was a fun little discovery.
Like, I'd known about this film for a long time, but I'd never seen it.
And then. And watching it, it's like, oh, that.
That's Charles Robinson from Night Court there. What the.
I. I knew he had been in a couple of movies around this time.
I know, I know. Like, he's also in Sugar Hill, which is another one we
showed recently. But,
yeah, this was fun. It. It does have, like, you know,
these white gangsters are, like, abusing the black
community. And the black power group
that's kind of like, policing the black community isn't hardcore
enough. So some of them sp and, like, become the
black Gestapo. And when they basically
wipe out all the white gangsters, they become just as
bad as the white gangsters and, like, sort of take over their. Their.
Their racket that they were running. Like, you know, they had, like,
a racketeering thing going, and with all the different businesses and stuff
going on and all that. So, yeah,
it's. It's actually a really fun exploitation movie.
Well worth checking out. It's definitely a more trashy
blaxploitation film, but if you like trashy black exploitation films, it's one
of the better ones. The only other thing I'll mention,
I watched Captain America, Brave New World, The.
The. The latest MCU film I
got, I torn it a. One of those, like,
illegal copies where someone's, like, actually in the projection booth
recording it with a camera that's set up perfectly, and they're, like,
you know, plugged into the. To the actual sound
system that's playing the. The audio. So you get, like, pretty much perfect
sound and everything. Not great.
Pretty mid. Pretty safe for a Marvel
movie. You know, they don't. Again, here's another thing where it's,
like, it's a film that should be talking about black issues. Like, it should be
talking about, hey, black Captain America. That's an interesting
idea given, you know, the US Government's
history of imperialism and racism. And what does it mean to
be a black Captain America, like, existing under that
system? And of course, it doesn't interrogate it at all. Really kind
of plays it really, really safe. You got Harrison Ford taking
over William Hurts, character of General
Ross, because, of course, William Hurt died in, what, 2022,
I believe. And Harrison Ford's fine in it.
Like, he's. He's picking up a paycheck. But I'll say this, for Harrison Ford,
even when he's just, like, slumming it and picking up a paycheck, he still gives
a pretty good performance. So he's pretty good in this.
The less said about him turning into the Red Hulk, the better, though,
because it's just.
I don't know why the. The MCU has not
caught on that their CGI is terrible. Like, they have just not
been delivering for the longest time now
through cgi. And this stuff is worse than
the CGI and she Hulk. Like, it's really bad.
The action scenes look terrible when there's, like, CGI going
on. I think everyone else is pretty good in it.
They. They got. Giancarlo Esposito
is in this because of course he is. He's in everything now. He's like the
new Christopher Walken, I guess, because, you know, he's an actor of
gravitas, so put him in everything. But, you know,
he's got kind of a thankless role because he's just kind of wedged in as,
like, oh, here's the Serpent Society. Something we've never referenced
at all in any of the other movies as far as I can remember,
but they're a thing now. And so, yeah, okay.
Yeah, it's. It's just. It's not a great film, but I guess
it's probably better than most of the stuff that has come
out from the MCU in this, like, recent phase or whatever.
So. I mean, that's a super low bar, but, you know, it's watchable.
And it's under two hours, which is probably the biggest selling
point for this one. It's like, yeah, you can get in and get out,
and it runs pretty smooth pretty quick. It's okay.
But, you know, I. I don't think. I don't think it's gonna sway any of
the, like, incel. Weirdo nerds who are gonna
scream woke every time they see a black person on the screen.
And, you know, they're. They're not gonna buy into black Captain
America no matter what. And. And the movie doesn't do anything to sway
the more casual audience either into, like, hey,
here's our new Captain America. Accept it. It's like,
okay, it's. They did. It's fine, but it's
not great. I heard it sets a lot of stuff up, though, as far as,
like, what's to come a little bit.
And it kind of. It references Some stuff that
had been hanging a little bit for a while. Like that Eternals movie
that everyone wants to forget happens. It references
the Celestial or whatever that came out of, like, the Indian Ocean.
Like, that's kind of the whole main thrust of the plot is that, like,
the MacGuffin there is that the Celestial is made out of adamantium.
So, like, that's the new rare mineral. And all the different countries are like,
we want to get a. Get a hold of that for its, you know,
weapons and science and medical applications.
So that. That's. That's kind of like the. The whole main point
of the story is that they're all racing there to. To be the first to
get it. And. And so, you know, it does kind of reference a couple
things and set up a couple things, but it's not. I wouldn't say it
does that much. And of course, it also does
sort of pay off what's his face. I can't
remember. But the guy who play. Who's the leader and
he. He was in the. The Hulk movie. The.
Oh, yes. Yeah. So, like, Blake Nelson, right? Yes,
yes, Tim Blake Nelson. So it pays that off. He's finally the leader.
And I know people are kind of like, on how he
looks because it's, like, all pretty much practical effects, and it kind of just looks
like, you know, okay, monster makeup. But I kind of dug that,
like, especially compared to the CGI in this film.
I would have took this Tim
Blake Nelson stuff over that CGI anytime. Like,
it at the very. Like, you know, it looks like stuff I'm
used to. It's like, I've seen all the Toxic Avenger films, and it's.
It's better than that, so I'm okay with it. And Tim
Blake Nelson's pretty cool as the Leader, too. Like, he's actually an interesting villain,
but. Great actor, you know? Yeah, yeah.
That's as ugly as that Modoc and in the Ant man
movie. Oh, that was terrible. Yeah, that's pretty ugly.
I don't know why they didn't just get Pat Oswalt
to do it. Oh, yeah, he's good at it.
Yeah, for sure. Oh, my gosh. What about you,
Sue? Well, I finally got around to
watching Long Legs, and I have
to admit, I was totally blown
away by how good this movie was. It had every
element that I can ever ask for in a movie.
And I'm like, I have to admit, over with Nick Cage
doing all these terrible movies for a paycheck to
pay off his debts. I'm just. I'm not a Nick Cage person,
but he managed to pull off just
insane in this movie.
It also checked off. I'm sorry. Every once in a while just give me
a little bit of gore, actually, you know, just give me a lot of gore.
I've had a bad day. I want to see a ton of, of blood.
I want to see heads bash brains,
wall intestines splatting. I have
days like this, this movie. I, I,
I'm so completely impressed.
I mean, they checked a bunch of the silence, the lamb boxes,
you know, a little bit of the Will Graham and
the weird connection and being able to get inside
people's heads things. Yep.
And the cast was Alicia Witt. I was really surprised
to see her in that role of all people.
Yeah, that's a pretty, this is a pretty brave performance to like kind
of put yourself out there like that. Very just like unappealing and like.
Yeah, yeah. And the other one I've been
anybody who'll listen to me about. It's one that's been on shudder.
It's called Oddity. Yeah, that's a great film. I love that.
Well, I mean it's, it's an unused story. I mean,
the Golem, come on. This goes back to,
you know, the Russian Civil War.
Yeah. And it's barely been touched upon.
I still have, I own the silent movie.
There was a great book. I do believe it was like late 70s,
early 80s called the Tribe that Barry Wood wrote
that. Every couple of years I grab this book and read it because I find
it fascinating.
And once again, and it's very underscored.
It's not. I hate jump scares. I can see a jump
scare a mile away. They genuinely built up
atmosphere, made you uncomfortable the whole
time. And that is a rare quality in
films lately. Yeah, I agree that that was a
really well done and it just sort of came out of nowhere. It's like,
oh shit, what is this? And it. Oh, I know. That's exactly it.
And the other one, just for shits and giggles. I was in a
truly terrible mood on Sunday, so my husband popped in the
thing. You can't be in a bad mood and watch the Thing. It's impossible.
So I can't even count how many times I've seen the Thing
since it was released. I really can't. But it was
just kind of nice. Just sometimes going back to it's,
it's a comfort movie for me. Yeah. That's pretty
much just the bunches of little stuff.
Nothing to be honest, worth mentioning. Unless.
Oh yes, I do Have a non recommendation. If you
ever accidentally click this movie, do yourself a
favor and shut it the off. It's so. It's.
It's one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Once again, it was
shutter. They mostly have hits.
Every once in a while there's misses. I was. I gotta build up
this so I don't sound like an idiot.
New bartender was working and I'm like hey, I'll be by
my phone if you need anything. So I just trying to
find something low key enough that I'm not into. If she calls
unfriended. Dark Web. This. This thing should be
eradicated from all existence.
If everybody had died in the first three minutes, it would
have been a great movie. It is absolutely
horrible. It's terribly made.
And there's a couple of movies that kind of did this hole with
the whole everybody's on FaceTime and it's.
It worked not perfectly, but enough
that you're kind of into it. This is bloody
awful. It is. If I could score this, it would have to
be like a negative 200.
It is bad. Shudder.
Just take the thing down. Make it go away. No one
should ever watch this movie.
I definitely didn't like the first one. So it's like. Yeah, I'm definitely
never checking the next one out. So. Yeah. Oh,
the one once again. It was another one of those. It's just for me
sometimes it's just background noise. The first one was literally when
it was over. Like did I watch a movie? I don't remember anything.
So I don't know why I thought this was going to be any better.
I didn't. Well, I didn't think it was going to be any better at all.
I just needed something non committal to have on in the
background to stay awake. Yeah,
well that's pretty much where I'm at. And okay, it's almost.
It's Cactus League baseball. So I'm very happy.
Nice. We're caught up.
Beautiful. Yeah. I got a series of new
watches and re watches that I'll talk about right now. I stuff
like stuff I probably should have caught by now. And one of them is the.
The history of Ungentle Ungentlemanly Warfare.
It's a long title for a film. But this guy Richie,
it's. It's a good time. Again. World War II is
the theme of this episode. This has it in spades.
It's a fun guy, Richie action movie and Henry Cavill's
in it. And I love when I see Carrie always show up
in something. And yeah, this is that. Till Schweiger
was in that movie too. I was that guy in forever and anything. But he's
probably done like 10 things that I haven't seen though, and probably the past
20 years. But I digress. This is a good time.
Guy Richie does action films like this very well. And this
is a big bombastic Nazi killing action movie.
And if you can't appreciate that, then I. I don't
know, man. It's just. It's just. It's just a good time.
Heard good things about that one. I keep hearing from people that I respect
their opinion, saying, yeah, this is pretty good, you know, don't sleep on it.
So. I watched two garage
movies because our man. I forget the actor's name and I should know this,
but right now, the actor played Hatchet Harry
for From Lock Stock. Two Smoking Barrels passed away,
so. So I had to watch that movie at work one day. And this
is the reason why I still call Jason Statham Bacon,
you know, to the state. Like, oh, baker's another action.
We got. Check it out. And you know, that's his
character in that movie. And the dialogue is quick.
I love the Rory Breaker character a lot in
that movie. And the whole conversation with the.
The weed dealers, you know, back and forth, Elijah, the semi conscious
glory gag, it's just everything in
that movie. I just love it. Yeah.
Another new watch that I should have watched by now.
I watched Wicked because it was inevitable. And I watched Wicked a
couple times. I forgot to mention it last time because this is a film that
I. I really enjoyed. My mother, my sister,
my aunties, they all saw the stage play. So eventually I was gonna get to
it and I was gonna meant to go to the movies to go see this,
but I didn't. I really enjoyed it.
I can't say I enjoyed the music, all of it, but I enjoy
the idea of it. And Ariana Grande.
And I forget the other African
American actress's name. I should know this.
They mentioned her name like a bunch of times, but it's real fine.
Michelle Yeoh is evil. They're fly. There are flying monkeys
in this movie. Eventually she does defy gravity.
Eventually. And I got really excited when it happened. For some reason, just something in
my. My soul where I got really excited. I was like, wait, there's a broom.
She's gonna fly now. And I got really excited. And you know,
yeah, it just. It just. And if you don't like it, that's fine. I just
wish somebody would feed the Ariana Grande.
Because I'm concerned for this woman in her health because she,
she looks unhealthy as far as, like, that goes. And.
Yeah, I don't know, it's. It's strange.
Oh, I had three people gift me the book and
then at one point for my birthday
or something, Pat's like, oh, would you like to go see it on stage?
I'm like, no.
Yeah, I don't, I don't know if I ever watched that unless, like,
my co host, Lady Lee somehow, like, tricks. Me into
watching it and that's fine. You know, it's just the wizard of
Oz, much like probably all of us, so we're brought up
on. Yeah, just Judy Garland lived in my house
for, for a while with that and meet me in St. Louis and stuff
like that. It just, it just played in my house. So I'm
sorry. Oh, no, no. When I was a kid, when the wizard
of Oz was on, this was back in the days of like 13 channels.
Thank you. I'm old, you know, it was, it was
an event. You know, I have such fond memories of
it. Like I said, I couldn't get more than 100
pages into the book. All three copies. Thank you very
much. It just. I don't know, it just didn't.
Didn't have the magic for me. Fair enough.
One thing I'll mention is that I probably watching more wrestling
and listening to more podcasts than ever before, because I could do
both, really watch the wrestling and listen to podcasts at the same time.
God bless. Multiple screens.
It's the multiple screens. It's. It's multitasking.
And I will say one thing about the AW product.
I, I am enjoying the smaller stadiums that they're going into
because the crowd is louder and they replace Mercedes
Monet with a puppet. And if they replace more folks with puppets,
I think I would be much more happy as a wrestling fan
because Harley Cameron is really working
with, with that Mercedes Monet Muppet. And if
I, If I had a Jon Moxley Muppet where they would just show them up
and not him talking, I. I think I would be enjoying that
a lot more. The product, because I'm
getting really sick of the Death Riders, but I'll watch
it because we'll. Because Will Osprey's out there, so I'll watch
it. So, you know, I'd enjoyed. I'd enjoy it if, If Tony
Khan actually hired people who actually know wrestling and know how to book.
That'd be great. Yeah.
And also, you know, the, the thing is, like, I will say I
don't really watch aew. I kind of checked out, like,
after. Kind of like the first year or so, because it's just like, not for
me, dog. But had they started out
in smaller venues and, like, built themselves up instead of trying to
pretend they were a national promotion right out of the gate, they probably would
have fared a lot better. But just because, you know, Tony Khan has billions
of dollars behind him, he decides, I'm just gonna. I'm gonna throw money at big
buildings. And then after a while, you can't
fill those buildings anymore. And your product on TV looks like,
dog, you got no one to blame but yourself.
And he is the central problem of that, that promotion.
If he could, like, you know, let people who actually
know wrestling do a bunch of the work instead of him
just blitzed out on cocaine doing everything,
he might find himself enjoying the.
The whole thing a lot more. Just putting it out there. But.
And the people watching would definitely, probably enjoy it a lot more. And when he
comes out, he should come out as a Muppet and just do some Muppet talking
to the Tony. I mean, if they, you know, if they had. If they had
to make. If they had debuted
Mercedes Monet, Muppet from the get go and just never hired her to the
roster, they would have saved themselves a lot of man.
Well, they'd have to give her something because the likeness rights or whatnot.
But, you know. Yeah, the Harley Halftime show does it
for me. I don't know what it is, you know. Yeah,
but, yeah, we're here tonight to talk about two films
in which Nazis are seeking treasure. And of course,
people are going to foil their plans. And we're
doing that with My Imran's Men from 2014
and what I've never seen until this, the show. And I'm excited
to talk about the crazy sexism of it all.
1987's Jane and the Lost City.
Yeah, let's go to the Prestige Picture first.
I think that's the best plan.
So Jane in the Lost City. Yes, indeed.
But no, the other one, the monument spread from 2014.
Want to get into the war. Monuments Man.
Time to put a team together and. Do our best to protect buildings,
bridges and art before the Nazis destroy everything. How many
men? Six. Jesus. Well, with you at seven,
that's much better. So you want to go into a war zone with
some architects and artists and tell our boys what they can. And cannot blow up?
That's right. Aren't we a little old for that? Yes.
We go through basic and then we wait for orders. Basic. Little help.
Basic training. Oh, boy.
If you destroy an entire generation of. People'S culture,
it's as if they never existed. We got company.
Frank. We gotta go. That's what Hitler wants,
and it's the. One thing we can't allow. So we get to shoot some
Nazis.
It's your responsibility now. I've never shot at anyone
before.
He really wanted it all.
We better get it back.
What have you got? I seem to have stepped on a landmine.
Why'd you do something like that? What do you got? Lieutenant here seems to have
found himself on top of an unexploded mine. Why would you do that? You all
been spending too much time together.
The monuments man from 2014.
Your cheap applause synopsis is an. Unlike The World
War II platoon is tasked to rescue art masterpieces from
German thieves and return them to their owners.
This is written, directed and starring
George Clooney. Matt Damon is
in this film as James Granger. Bill Murray's. In this film is Richard
Campbell. Cate Blanchett as Claire Simone. John Goodman
as Walter Garfield. Jean Jardin as Jean Claude Clairmont.
Hugh Bonneville as Donald Jeffries.
The phenomenal Bob Balaban. I can't praise this guy
enough. And anything as Preston. Yes,
indeed. But, yeah, this is a. A film
that, you know, I should have liked upon its release.
And. And I'm sure we'll get into why I still think it's kind of subpar.
And I'll start there with Suzanne. Suzanne, what you think of Monuments
Man. Okay, well, I'm gonna preface this just a touch.
Okay. I tried to watch this. When it came out, like,
three times, I was out cold within 20 minutes.
It's. I will admit it's very, very dry,
but I actually started doing a little before
I watched it, because I remember watching this.
We. I used to have a channel, and they used to do,
like, three days a week, this thing on art heists
and stolen art.
Absolutely fascinating. Can't remember the name of it. Don't know where it is.
But they did one on, and they even briefly mentioned
it in the movie last night. The Klimt pieces,
the Girl with the golden something.
There were several. It was just gold was the main color. But just very,
very beautiful pieces. And I just
got kind of mentioned, which brought it all back last night.
So I know a little bit about the backstory
and the stolen art, the destroyed art, which is
heartbreaking. Yeah, I.
This movie is good in pieces.
There are portions of it that are just really
interesting. Pull your Attention in.
Then we go to parts where it's just.
I. I just. I can't really put my finger. It's boring.
Okay, there. There we go. Yeah, they don't.
It's. It could have possibly, you know,
maybe 15 minutes trimmed off,
but there are just parts of this movie that just,
with the goal of the story,
just. Are just extraneous pieces that
don't need to be there. But I will.
I do want to step into the cast. You do have an amazing cast
here. I'm not a huge
Kate Blanchett fan. She's very good in some
things. And I just. I. I just. I find
her uppity and she just.
She just kind of. Most movies I see her in,
she just puts off that uppity vibe.
Though it works in this one. Matt Damon, I have to admit,
he was probably one of the best characters in this movie.
And I found. I love Bob Balaban in.
Yeah, An Unnatural Way because the man, he's.
He's great. It's so many things. He's a great director,
he's a great actor, but he's. He's got
this. I will put my nose to the grindstone and make everybody awkward
while I'm doing it. And he pulls this off just
stunningly. Bill Murray,
just for me, I think he was almost throwaway. He just.
You could have put anybody in that part. There was nothing about it that
made it. Bill Murray. If I'm. I could be
out of line, but, you know, we'll see the same thing
once again. George. George. Apparently, John Goodman,
for me, stole a lot of scenes. He just had just that kind
of demeanor about him, but for
the most part, it's. It's a decent movie.
It's definitely worth a view. It may
take you a few times because it takes so long to get off
the ground. That's my biggest fallback with
this movie, is It's. It's paced terribly,
that all of the things that are good about it just kind of
get lost in the mix because it's like,
okay, we're here, people are shooting each other, nothing for a
very long time. And you're sitting. You're into it,
and then they tick all of the wind out of your
sails. Because it just. For me,
like I said, this movie falls apart with pacing. I enjoyed
it when I finally was able to stay awake for it, but it's
not put together well. It really isn't. There may
be a few other points you both have that can extrapolate on
a little bit, but this movie,
they're being good. It has a lot of issues.
So I will let whoever wants to go next take
it away. Yeah, go for Lee. This is
my second watch of this film. Back when I watched it in
2014, I was just kind of meh on it. I was just like,
okay, it's. It's George Clooney. He generally produces
really good stuff. He's got an amazing cast,
like, from top to bottom, just like a crazy cast.
And, you know, he's kind of the guy who has the kind of clout,
at least at that time, where he could. He could put together a great cast.
And, you know, Clooney was putting out some bangers of
films around that time too. You know, he had a good track record.
And this is a great story. Like, this is a great
real life story that is worth reading
about and. And, you know, reading about
the real people behind. Because nobody in the. Other than, like,
Winston Churchill in the cast and maybe a couple other people are
not like, none of these people are real people. They're all,
like, combinations or based on kind of things
of, like, the real people that were in this unit.
Like, there was like, over 300 volunteers,
both men and women, that were sort of part of this.
This thing to. To save stolen art and,
you know, preserve art that the Nazis were either stealing or destroying.
And this is kind of where this film falls apart. And I totally
agree with Suzanne here. It's a major pacing
issue because Clooney makes the mistake
of trying to cover a little bit of everything when
he should have been really just focusing on a couple people and, like,
making it a min on a mission film and a good
men on a mission film. You got your team together throughout the entire film for
the most part, where you're. You're following that unit through the whole thing.
Like, be it Kelly's Heroes to Saving
Private Ryan, you're following
the same group of guys pretty much throughout the whole thing. Maybe a couple of
them split off once in a while, but for the most part, they're.
They're a cohesive group here. The movie jumps
back and forth between pairs of people everywhere, and you
don't really get to know the characters well enough, and you
don't really get to, like, invest in them.
I. I found personally and tonally,
the film is just totally off. It wants
to give you this jaunty, comedic almost kind of score behind
everything and present, like,
comedic moments. But it also wants
to do the thing that every movie since Saving Private Ryan
does. And, like, we've got to be more. We Got to be
more fact based about the horrors
of war. We've got it. We've got to be more realistic.
And when that brushes up against the kind
of comedy stuff that they're doing in this, which is, and you
know, this is another thing about Clooney. He's a very old school kind of guy
when it comes to his Hollywood stuff and the movies he likes.
A lot of the people in this are doing stuff that you
would see like the Rat Pack doing in movies back
in the day where they, they'd have like a comedic charm thing
going on. And like, any of the serious stuff
would be a lot more toned down, but here the serious
stuff is toned up quite a bit and it's brushing up
against the comedy and the comedy feels outdated and wrong
when, when, you know, like smashing up against the horrors of
war that are presented in this film. And so there's, you know,
there's, there's a tonal balance here that's off. There's, there's just
a episodic weirdness to this
that makes it hard to connect everything going on. If,
if, if Clooney had managed to like, just narrow
this down to like a group of like say five people
in a squad together doing the thing,
that would be much more interesting. Because, you know,
this, if, if you look into the history of this, this stuff, like, Clooney gets
a lot of wrong. And like, I, I mean, I don't feel like
he was, you know, doing it wrong because
he was stupid about this. He's intentionally changing
the facts of this. He's changing the names of everybody. He's changing
what happened and what happened when and, and how.
So why not just do that in the context of like a really
solid min. On a mission film with like a group of like five
to ten people all together going straight through
the thing instead of like trying to split everybody apart and just
this whole thing up. Yeah, it's, it's just
a really hard watch. I, on the second watch, I, I kind
of hated this film. I was, I was getting
to the end of it. I was like, can, can we just get on with
this? I mean, it picks up a little bit at the end, but for the
most part I was just like, these people are wasted. Like, these actors are
all really good. Speaking to what Suzanne was
saying about Bill Murray, you know, around this time,
he's got that cloud of like, I've been in a bunch of Wes Anderson films,
so I can just walk on to a film and say some
and everyone's gonna Love it. And it's like, it doesn't really work in
this film. Like, if anything, Bob Balaban's carrying his
ass in this film. And Bob Balaban is actually the best thing in
this film as far as I'm concerned. I enjoyed him because he's
just, he's in a different movie. It's enjoyable
to see him just in a different movie. And yeah,
no, I. I kind of. I kind of hated this movie on the
second watch. I was just like. It's because it's so much
talent and just so much wasted potential
and just bad decisions that kind of like. It kind
of irked me the wrong way this time watching it.
I mean, you guys are all right about everything. I mean. But you mentioned
Kelly's heroes. This should have been your modern
day Kelly's heroes. Yes, in my opinion,
if they were all together. But like you said, you have this on
like a, A European scale to where they have to be in different
places to get different things. You split up these, these six
or eight. These eight people, I think, all together.
You know, there should have been a much larger.
Larger scale. Their search for these, the stolen art.
I would love to read the actual story of all this too,
just to get a little insight about what actually happened.
I think one of the big problems this film was you
have a great cast that's very capable of making
a good movie. There's a lot of. There's a lot of tragedy
in this film, but there's not so much.
I don't want to say make it fun, but that's a good thing.
That's. Was the medium that, that made Kelly T. Work so well, is that
there was a serious situation going on there. But I'm not saying,
you know, throw, throw a. Throw oddball in there, you know,
throw in there to lighten the mood. But,
you know, make it, make it. I. I hate you again.
Gotta go back to Clooney and Matt Damon. Make it more like
Ocean's Eleven in a way, just to say,
hey, you know, let's take this serious
war movie. Yeah. That we're trying to make,
you know, it. Add. Add some footage there because anytime Bob
Bella bends on screen with somebody,
there's the part where, where they, they get.
He gets busted outside, I guess, taking a piss. But there's a Nazi
there. That part with him and J. Goodman is gold.
You know, the part with him and Bill
Murray go off alone is, Is gold. There needs to be more of that,
you know. No, you're right. Like Clooney's
Obviously trying for the, the sort
of Ocean's Eleven formula, like kind of, you know,
stuck into this Men on a mission film. But he just doesn't,
he doesn't nail it. Like, it, it just, it doesn't connect.
And he's also like, he seems really concerned
about making America the heroes and
like, kind of whitewashing a lot of, you know,
just like any, any of the bad things America might have done during the war.
Like, it's a real American exceptionalism
kind of narrative going on.
So that also kind of especially these days, not to,
you know, company excluded in this, in this call, but,
you know, the Americans are not necessarily putting their best foot
forward these days in the world stage. So,
like watching this movie kind of like, really,
it's a real stinker when it comes to that. It's just like,
oh, bad taste in the mouth. No, the way that he split them
up, it's almost, I think he even says cereal and
present it. I mean, for me,
the problem there is the flow. The flow is broken
when you're jumping between what every pair
is doing and it takes you out
because you're like, oh, wait, what? Okay, how did I get here?
There was really no step.
You're just there. I mean, I don't need to be spoon fed,
but if you're going to cut to that, it needs to make sense.
And it feels like, it feels like it cuts like some
of the, you know, when he's going for the serious stuff where he's
like, oh, one of our characters dies or something, and that
should be a really serious moment. It feels like it, it undercuts
it because we're immediately moving on to something else almost right afterwards.
And, oh, I know when he's there holding his chest and we
just jump to the next instead of like,
wait a minute. Yeah. No, this is a powerful
moment that you're, you've just squandered.
Mm. It's the presentation. I'm sorry.
Oh, no, no, go ahead. I'm done. You get more
time with Bill Murray, you know, when he gets the record or whatever he gets
for, from his family. And I, I think it's a real nice moment of the
film to where, you know, we get a phonograph and then,
you know, they, they play the recording. And it's tonight's Christmasy
moment and nice emotional moment for Bill Murray.
I'm enjoying this when it's not to Bill Murray because
people, like, suck off Groundhog Day. And I,
I've seen it this, I've seen it for the first time this year and I'm
still not a credit all the way through and I'm still not
impressed with all. But you know, I, with the exception of
like Stripes and Ghostbusters,
I, I prefer the dramatic, you know,
Bill Murray more than the other one at this point.
You know, don't get me wrong, like, I, I, I love
Bill Murray and I think a lot of the stuff he's, he's been
doing in the last 20, 30 years has been really great.
I just feel like the kind of stuff he's known for
doing, like the kind of Wes Anderson stuff doesn't really
fit this film. Like, like, if you want to do, like if you
want to do charm and comedy in a film like
this where you're trying to be more serious at the same time and
you're like, you know, you're trying to present an interesting serious
story. Unless you're going full on comedy.
In that case, yes, have Bill Murray do the he's doing in this film.
But if you're not going to do that, then you go for more of the
sort of charismatic charm that you get from like a Tom Hanks
in Saving Private Ryan. There's funny moments and Save it Private Saving
Private Rya. And there's charming moments in that film between the
characters as you're, you know, like trying to crack
jokes under the horrors of this mission
they're, they're undertaking when, when they should be going the home.
But they're going to like five fine Matt Damon's ass.
And that, that kind of resonates and
that's, that's powerful stuff. But here it's just like,
oh, it's Bill Murray. He's doing his Wes Anderton Anderson
thing in this movie and it's like really bumping up against
the seriousness and like the emotional thing
here and the like we're saving art and, and all that stuff,
like it just doesn't, it doesn't vibe with it. For me personally,
I, I just felt like it was a real juxtaposition that
didn't work. Well, there are a few scenes that should have carried
a lot more weight and the one we just discussed, when he
is shot in the chest,
he's gonna die. And the, just the
fast cut away from that. This is a powerful moment.
This is an important moment. The other one
that bothered me was it didn't
have to be long, it just needed to be proper.
When he finally sees the Rembrandt that his
grandfather would never let him see. You know,
I mean, seriously, this is A really important moment for
this character, actually, just seeing it, and it's
just kind of. It's not treated well.
And then with the rings in the teeth, you're almost there.
With that scene, you're almost there. They see the.
The teeth, the rings, the horror of that,
and it's. They missed it.
But these are important parts. And you're
right, it should have been pick a line for
the group to work together, but they tried to cover everything
and spread everything too thin. And I
can't say in proper hands it would have been treated any better, but maybe
somebody could have found, you know, a common thread
to, you know, get as much of the information,
flesh out, you know, the composite characters
a little bit. But none of this was done.
Yeah, I mean, the way. The way he mixes
and matches, like, real people and changes names and stuff, like you can
form. If you're gonna do that. Okay, that's cool. You know,
based on a true story. That's fine. You know,
you. You can assemble your team of these fictional based
on true people characters, and you can still kind
of follow the general narrative, what actually happened in real life, and you
can make them in on a mission story out of it.
But when you're just like. You're trying to cover everything,
it's just. You can't do it because this was such a major
operation. Like, there was a lot going on. A lot happened
in this story. Yeah. And you're just in. This movie
is like two hours, but you're still not. You're still not covering
it. You're not even scratching the surface, really. So it's better just
to have like, a solid unit of guys that you get to know.
You set it up at the beginning. Like, yes, this is a big undertaking.
This is just one group and like a massive undertaking
to, like, save this art. And you follow their one mission.
So, you know, the setup, you know, other stuff is going on. You could maybe
hear about it here and there as it's going on or whatever. And then
at the end, maybe you get like a little text thing
saying, also, these people saved this and. And this kind
of thing at the end, but you should just be following this core group on
a mission a minute. On a mission. Thing is a p. Is a thing people
understand. It's. It's an easy story to do. It's a.
It's a. It's a smart story to do cinematically.
And I. The. The fact that Clooney didn't do it,
especially when he's, like, trying to put, like, Ocean's eleven
kind of stuff into this thing which is all about a group of
people doing a thing. Why can't you do that?
Yeah. Brand new emotions. Love it.
They took that thing, you know from the 60s where you had these men
on a mission things and they all, they all. It's like a
spy thing. They all have their own specialty. You know one guy's
gonna take a peers. What one guy's, you know, you got the Asian
guy. They get a small spaces and is agile. You know.
All these people had. Had a purpose. I mean all these guys together in
here. Like I said, they broke them up. You know you
get to learn how they, how they would work together and it just,
it just, it just doesn't work and. But none of them are actually really soldiers.
This is why I find the concept and the more I think about
it, the more they. Norris they. So I
mean they weren't. They were, but they weren't.
They weren't, you know, battle tested soldiers.
Yep. And then they're out on their own in pairs.
Come on. Yeah. Which is just like okay. That's completely
unbelievable. They would be dead in 24
hours. Yep. Oh my gosh.
I'll kick it. This what you want to say about Monuments
Man? If this was a first time watch, this would
be on my worst of first time watches this year because the
second watch the second go around. I just,
I just found everything I missed. I. I must have
watched. I. I think one of the first time I watched this I was like
Suzanne. I was kind of sleeping through it because it, it takes
so long to get going. So I just kind of like eh.
It's mid. I'll give it two and a half stars on letterboxd or
whatever now it wouldn't be getting any stars. I kind of actively hate
this movie. I think it, I think it's. It just the talent
involved. Dropping the ball this hard is
insulting to the viewer. Like it's just.
It's probably the worst thing Clooney's ever done and that's including Return
of the Killer Tomatoes. So.
So there you go. At least he's
having fun in that movie. I will say that. Yeah. At least he gets to
roll around with Terry wiggle in her underwear on a bed for a scene.
Yeah. Suzanne. Except for me
finally sitting and watching it.
And for me it's, it's. It's wasted
potential. There is so many portions
of this movie that could be so very,
very good with the caliber of talent involved.
But he just didn't even deftly Turn it into vignettes.
It. It just. It just bothers me that
this is such a powerful story and
yet it's completely
mishandled. It's like he's trying to get everybody as much screen time
as possible without pulling
the common thread through. Yep. It just.
It. It pisses me off because this
should be amazing. It should be amazing.
I'm disappointed. I'm at, like, I'll give it
half a star because Bob Balaban is amazing. He is.
Yeah. Protect Bob Bellad. He's a treasure. Is. I'll say about that
one. Yes, indeed.
I. I think it said so much.
In a lot of movies, in the proper hands,
this film could have really been something. And I hate to say it
about Clooney because he's. He's made some good stuff over the years.
It's just. I think he was really reaching for something.
I. I'm not even gonna say that wasn't there. It was there.
But you. You needed to make it more like Kelly's Heroes to match your.
And I forgot to mention how stupid the. The jaunty
score was. That didn't match the movie. In this movie, too. Oh, it's terrible.
God.
It'S playing that jaunty score while John Goodman and
what's his face are being shot at by that Nazi youth soldier
in the building. Like, what? There's another
moment that it. It's like Full Metal
Jacket when they realize it's that they finally go up. It's that
girl. Yeah. This is. This is completely
the horrors of war, and yet they're trying to make you laugh
about it. I'm surprised John
Goodman didn't. John Goodman didn't grab him and spank him.
Like the. The only. The. Honestly, I think the only
real human moment that kind of works in this film for the most part,
is when Bill Murray and Bob Balaban are sitting down with
that. That young kid who. Who had the gun on
Balaban, and they. They just share a smoke and then go their. Their separate
ways. Yeah, that's a good. That's a good little moment. I mean,
it's like, what film is that? What film is that from? Where's the film that
that's from? I want to see that film. Exactly.
I mean, you mentioned Wes Anderson. I mean, give this to us, Anderson. You know,
see what he'll do with the material. I would love to see that or.
Or the Cohen brothers or something. Anybody else.
Yeah, they would focus in one direction, right? Yes,
indeed. And this is all over the place, unfortunately. And I.
I like I said, this is a film that I should have liked it upon
its release. And I thought maybe it was just the frame of mind
I was in to say, hey, I didn't like this so much. So I
said, hey, I'm gonna watch it again. And now we're gonna do another show to
see what you guys think. Because I was. I was really confused
by. By my thoughts on the film.
And like I said, this is a cast that should have worked. It should
have worked. And it plays a lot of tragedy here, but the tragedy,
the tragedy is justified, just not executed
very well. It needs to be more fun and more
serious. What? It needed to be serious. And, you know,
you get a big mention of, you know, I'd like to say this one that
died and that one died, but you did it for the
art. Was it worth it? Blah, blah, blah. It'll say, but yes,
yes, it was. Yada, yada, yada. Who gives a. At that point? It. It just.
You didn't make them care about it. I mean, it's the people try to compare
the dawn of the Dead remake to. To the original one. While both are good
films, you know, the first version of that makes you concentrate
and make you care about those four. Those four characters.
I mean, this one has like eight characters. So it shouldn't have been that hard
for it be to. To build devastation to when one of them dies.
You know, I mean, they did it. They did it with a Dirty dozen,
for sakes. And there was a dozen of them. Oh, God, the Dirty Dozen is
almost perfect. That I love the Wild Geese.
Yes, the Wild Geese.
The, the.
The. Even the second one, the. The Spanda Prison one.
It's just. Once again, you have an amazing ensemble
cast and you, you mentioned it several times.
Men on a mission. This works. There's a reason this works.
There's a reason it still works.
Yep. Also just gotta point out that
the. The guy they got to be, the old George Clooney, is with his son
at the end. Man, does he not match up? Oh, God,
no. I'm sorry. George Clooney. You cannot make him look like
a regular person. He's a beautiful man. And if
you're gonna give me this guy who looks like, I don't know,
like a busted ass skid row
bum in the 70s comp, you know, I'm sorry.
Don't work. Don't work, bro. I was
like, oh, that's supposed to be George Clooney. Okay, that makes no
sense. Like George Clooney. You don't have to have Modesty. You can,
you can find somebody who looks really good and,
and just have you looking good in your 70s because you're gonna look good in
your 70s. Let's face it, you're almost there, if not there already. So.
No, if he's in his 60s. Yeah. So. Yeah. And he's
still. Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people would go hop
on that. I'm not gonna say I'm not one of them either.
I mean, I mean, him and Brad Pitt just did a movie together. What,
Wolves or something it was called, and I think it got buried.
But they're still looking good. Pitts in his like late 50s and
he looks like he's 30. So for sakes,
let's not kid anybody here. Yeah, I know. They are very pretty
men. It's, it's. But can we just do,
can we. Can Tom Cruise just spontaneously
combust or something? Because I cannot stand him. Well,
he probably will at some point. He's a vampire. There's something
wrong with his face. I want to make a statement.
Okay. Last time I was at Suzanne's house, I made her
watch Rocky pages. Enjoyed that.
Okay. Is. I'll say about that, you know. Well, I was getting like
my 80s hair metal on. Come on, man,
she can dig the artifice of 80s hair metal and,
and you know, ignore the artifice of Tom Cruise.
I have two brain cells to rub together.
So the end of this day is that Clint is a pretty dreamy man and
Bob Balaban needs to be protected.
No, he should be protected like an endangered species.
Yes, he needs. Bob Alaban's one of those dudes who needs to die
at like age 112 surrounded by friends and family and
a. 20 year old wife because he deserves it. Yeah,
but, yeah, that's, that's where we're land on this one. It's, it's not a recommend
by any of us, but you know, make your own decision,
I guess, you know. Yeah. Have fun.
Sucker man. Speaking of suckers,
man. And inappropriate indigenous people.
But we're going to talk about the next film after the here Jade
in the Lost City from 1987, rather this
trailer.
The lost Ark, the doomed temple.
The restless natives. The dashing soldier of
fortune. The plucky heroine
who's ready for anything. And the friendly little
monkeys are all back together again.
And you're in for an epic, gigantic, really huge
event. That is a big one. You ain't seen nothing yet, baby. When you join
the search for the Lost City.
Where is the Lost City? The Lost City. The Lost City. What do you know
about this Lost City? Um, which one?
Barbie? It's Remarkable Courage.
We got your bravest warrior against unspeakable
evil. A whole week and I haven't targeted anyone. It's Deadly
Encounters. Look out. Compromising positions.
Made it. Pagan rights. Be careful.
Jan's annoyed. Don't think I like the way he
said that. Featuring the Queen from African Queen.
Jolly glad I didn't meet you on the hockey field. The Tango
from Last Tango. And the Krak
from Krakatoa. East of Java. Oh, God, that's all we
need. Starring Sam Jones as the unbeatable Jack.
Well, folks, I think we're in trouble. Maude Adams as Lola
Pagola. Hands up all of you. And Kirsten Hughes
as the ever resourceful Jane in the Smashing
Adventure epic that doesn't take itself too seriously.
Jane and the Lost City.
Jane and the Lost City from 1987.
Yoshima plot synopsis is this. Jade and the Colonel
must travel to Africa to the Lost City to retrieve the diamonds
before the Germans do. Based on the classic adult the UK comic strip
Jane, especially popular during World War II for its strong
pin up elements. This is directed by Terry Marcel who
gave us some interesting genre stuff. I'd say.
Prisoners of the Lost Universe. Starring the great Richard Hatch from
Hawk the Slayer. Which is entertaining.
Sort of sandal fair. Yeah. That's about the.
The height of what I enjoy that he did. I. I explore a
lot. A lot of other TV other than that. Right? Yeah, a lot of tv.
But those two are pretty good. And I, I don't. I don't hate this movie
for spoilers, you know. He also helped write the film as well.
The stars, Sam J. Jones himself. Mr.
Flash Gordon as Jungle Jack Buck Octopus
herself. Mod Adams as Fraulein Lola
Pagola. My favorite character of the whole
thing plays hey Rick times
three because he plays all his brothers too. Yeah.
Cursed uses Jane Graham Stark,
who is featured in a bunch of Pink Panther films that I have not seen.
It's a blue blind spot for me, those Pink Panther films.
Robin Bailey is the Colonel. Ian Roberts classic
Meathead as Carl the Enforcer. Elso Tool is
the Leopard Queen. John Rapley is Dr.
Schnell Shell who I should. I'm gonna look right now and tell you what I've
seen a minute. I've seen his face at least six things.
You know. Is this the guy that could easily been Donald Pleasance.
Yes, that guy. Yeah. No,
he. You know what it is? He looks like a bootleg Edwin.
That's why he looks familiar to me because I can't see anything
he's been in. But I've seen Edwin in a whole bunch of things,
so maybe that's like a. My brain's clouded there in
a way. Yeah. But this is a real simple story about.
Again, it follows the formula of this group that's trying to
beat the Nazis to these diamonds in a
very African lost city.
And comic prep. Balls and
clothes come off for no reason at all. I can't stop laughing.
I'll kick it to leave first. January, Lost City from 1987.
What are your thoughts on sir? I had a lot more fun with this
than Monuments Men, that's for sure. I had
seen bits and pieces of this growing up,
so probably explains some of my fetishes.
Especially when it comes to clothes ripping off of people of
the female persuasion. This is very
Carry on or Benny Hill in. In a lot of its presentation,
if you're familiar, that kind of stuff from British humor of like,
hey, sexy lady loses her clothes. Like very much the same kind of
sort of tradition of that. And I mean, honestly,
you know, it precedes Carry on in Benny Hill because of
course this is based on the Norman Pet comic books
comic strip series, I should say, from the 30s that
got really popular, as you said, Gary, during World War II for its pin
up elements, which is true. Like, it was very much a like
serialized female spy thing,
but with the sexy pinup elements to it
was kind of what it was. It was very, very parody.
Very much a parody of like Pulp Stories is what
it was. And then this is very much a parody of the Indiana
Jones stuff that was out. Like, you know, there's all kinds of ripoff Indiana
Jones stuff. And this is very much more of a parody of that kind
of stuff. It feels like the gods must be crazy to some extent,
but not as zany as that film is not a slapstick,
I'd say. But it's very.
It's very light and breezy. You know, when we get into it, I'll. I'll talk
about some of the things I didn't like about it and I think they could
have improved. But like, it's an enjoyable watch and like,
I think the entire cast is really good. I think, you know, I feel like
Sam Jones, you know, he kind of whatever disagreement
he got in with Dino De Laurentiis on Flash Gordon kind of
his career because he's. He's kind of too good for this material,
I feel like. But he seems like he's having fun With. It feels like everyone's
kind of having fun with this. It's kind of unfortunate that Kristen
Hughes is like, fourth build here, but I mean, when you.
Especially behind Jasper Carrot, which I. I really don't get,
you know, sure, Jasper Carrot was like, a known comedian at
the time, but, I mean, Kristen Hughes is supposed to be your star.
The new. The movie is named after her. So at least have her second builder,
something. You know, honestly, Mod Adams should be built
above Sam Jones in this, when you think about it.
But, yeah, no, it's. It's goofy. It's dumb.
There's. If. If you're. If you're gonna be, like, a nitpicker and,
like, get into, like,
issues of, like, feminism and racism and stuff,
then if you're gonna be one of those people going
after this kind of material, maybe you got too much time on your hands
because, yeah, it's not good on those things, but it's not pretending to be.
It's. It's very stupid and hard to take serious. So.
But we'll. You know, I'll pass over to Suzanne,
and when we get to the deeper conversation on some
of this stuff, then I'll bring it up. But, yeah,
okay. No, I agreed.
It's. I had never even heard of this movie until
Gary's like, oh, yeah, we're watching this. I'm like, what the.
Well, I also had fun. I watched it on Amazon and,
you know, thank God for those commercials every five minutes.
But this is just me bitching
about the commerce. But it really wasn't that bad. It is.
It's light. It's slapsticky.
You know, it's not like when I. When I
first glance, I'm like, oh, God, it's going to be like tits and ass
everywhere. But it was. It was more like, is the comic,
which I actually had to get read about, you know,
just a girl in satin underwear. Big deal.
It is cute. And, well, I can look at Sam
Jones all day, every day, till the day I die.
He could. He could play the part mute, and I really wouldn't
care. I was just bummed he didn't have a shirt off more.
Wow. Who is there? Something's here.
But, yeah, it's. It's a cute little movie. I love the Leopard Queen. The Leopard
Queen is my favorite part of this movie. I just loved her.
It. It added a lightness. And once again, the whole thing is
lights and Bob Adams, which I. I remember her
as a Bond girl. I remember her in a few
other smaller roles. I don't remember her being
that huge of a. Of an actress,
but, you know, that's kind of neither here nor there. It's.
I have to admit, it's a fun little
light, slapsticky.
Girl. Loses her clothes quite a bit,
but not in the nasty way.
Yeah, it could have been. It definitely doesn't feel like
one of the more like sleazy, leering, like sex comedies
of the time, right? Oh, yeah, exactly. And you could almost see
that they, they were trying to lean into that a little
bit, but they. I'm glad they kept it more on the PG
side because it's. To be honest, it's just a cute
little movie. It really is. It's cute.
The scene on the boat with the first assassin brother.
I was laughing my ass off every time. She would
smash him in the face with the door. Down with the anchor.
And the only thing that bugged me, I'm like, watching the dog.
I'm like, nothing better happen to that dog. I'm gonna be
real pissed off here if anything happens to the dog.
But it's, it's. It's a cute little movie. It's.
It really. It's literally M M's. There is no
nutritional value here whatsoever,
but it's fun. I. I really.
Is it well made? No, that's cheap.
Completely cheap as. But it's
just an enjoyable ride. It doesn't outstay its
welcome. The story. Yeah. Finding the Big D,
the Lost city. But it's. There's.
It. It's like almost. I don't know if it's more of a MacGuffin or a
red herring because we never get there. Oh, wait, we do get
there. Well, yeah. McGuffin is. Is what
it really is. Yeah. It's like. It's not like the tour where
they're talking about military secrets and you never know what they are,
but it's. It just. It's not
a great movie, but at least it's enjoyable. You've got
in a completely just base
set of characters that do a good job. You've got, you know, you're the
blonde, you've got the jungle man.
You've got the colonel, his man servants.
You've got the evil Nazis doing evil Nazi things.
It's once again straight up composites again
of just basic characters, but they all seem to work
together well. It's not great, but it's fun.
I'll get. Give me fun.
Yeah. For me, unlike the last film,
this is a film that knows just what it is. It's like Suzanne
says from Jump. You know, you get some slapsticky on the boat and
this guy who's clearly falling into swimming pool, you know, the first
few times he falls, he's swimming pool. And you know what? I don't care,
I don't care if it looks like he's walking to a pool. It's just,
it's fun. You know, you just the kind of humor, just the kind of humor
that Gary likes, you know, when somebody is trying to grasp onto
the ledge or something and somebody steps out of their fingers and they fall again.
I'm gonna laugh. First time. Oh, she closed that porthole on
his fingers. Yeah, I'm the last third. I'm the last third time too,
because let me tell you that those jokes work for me.
You know, as a film itself.
I, I didn't look at a budget or anything, but I'm sure the budget was
very small. It was filmed on location and yeah.
Yeah, I couldn't find like any budget or box office for this.
So like, But I mean it, it had to be made for like
way less than $5 million at like,
it's, it's very cheap for 1987 and
oh. It'S a straight to video production. There you go.
Yeah, that's a new, It's a New world joint. So I knew going
in it wasn't gonna be very, very, you know, oppressive with,
you know, anything really. But the, the BB series
that they did, like, you know, it's based on the comic strip, but then they,
they made a movie in 1949. I've never seen that.
I'm kind of actually interested in, in seeing that, that movie.
But then they did the BB series in the 80s.
They did two seasons of it, 1982 and 1984.
And they're very cheaply done. They're like live action put
in with like comic book panels and stuff like
that. It's actually kind of interesting. You know, it's more than what you would expect
from the BBC at the time, but at the same time it's like the way
they did it, they obviously did to save a lot of money and they obviously
like didn't spend a lot of money on this either. So.
Yeah, yeah, I thought Sam Jones is real
fine as your, your meathead jungle man. Just,
you know, helping bring that freaking humor along with his open shirt and
you know, being your, your, your.
Yeah, yeah, you're listening.
That big knife he's got. Yep. Oh yeah.
Yeah. Five candy there indeed.
But I, I, I, I, I, I enjoy the locations of
this. They filmed the location, wherever those countries, it's in Africa.
This country, you know? Yeah, it's. I think it's in Africa. I,
I can't pronounce it, but they did, they did kind of shoot on location kind
of thing, and, you know, it shows it.
It's, I assume this is a British production or whatever,
and usually they get their production value pretty well, even when
they're doing cheap. You know, like, they're, they usually know how to,
to, like, you know, get blood out of a stone, so to
speak, with their production values. So you can see it here.
It looks pretty much as good as any of the
other cheap stuff around this period of time.
Like, what's the one we did, Gary, with Chuck Norris
and Lewis Gossett Jr. Firewalker or whatever. The.
Yeah, it doesn't look any worse than Firewalker,
I don't think. I, I, I, I, I'd say I
had more fun with this than Firewalker, and I really like Firewalker.
It's almost like Firewalker. So Fireworker. Derogatory,
was it? Tried to implement humor in there in the wrong spots?
Well, yeah, Chuck Norton.
Yeah, Chuck Norris can't do jokes. That's the thing. Because he can't do anything
other than you can hit people, and that's it.
But here, everybody is, like, really good. The entire
cast is, like, funny. They. Yeah, I mean, it's,
I don't know if it's intentional or they just work
comically well together, but it is, It's.
I don't want to say, maybe charming is the word. Yeah,
it's just, it's, it's just a cute little
funny movie. It's. I don't know if some spots
are intentionally, but there,
there's, it's just
fun. Yeah, it's like. And we're like, it's super
light. Like, it's not even as sleazy as, like, Benny Hill is, and Benny
Hill's not really all that sleazy, but it's way sleazier than this.
And the Carry on films are even way sleazier
than this. And some of them, like, this is very, like,
just light, cheesecakey kind of stuff where it's
like, oh, her dress came off. But, you know, it's not like,
presented in a way necessarily where the,
the guys are like, even the men in the, in the cast are
not necessarily drooling over her. Like, she, she's presented
in awkward positions for, like, the viewer to watch
and go, oh, that's kind of hot. But, you know, the,
the men in the cast are actually like, please get her a jacket.
And you know, and stuff like that. You know, I think the only character really
who kind of really comments on Jane whenever
she's undressed is the Tombs character who's like,
yes, I think I'll go over to the car now, please.
Like, obviously in insinuating he's gonna jack off because
you just saw Jane with her dress ripped off or whatever.
Right. But everyone else is kind of like, oh,
that poor woman. Please get her a jacket. You know, it's downplayed
completely. Like I said, it's not. And you're right. It's more cheesecake
than anything else. Yep.
Honestly, the. I watched some of the episodes of the BBC
thing and some of those are way
more leering and tawdry than this movie is.
Like, this is very light even compared to the source material.
So, yeah, they just basically have like that one moment like that,
though, to where they're trapped in the tomb where the diamonds are the nuts.
They've stole the diamonds.
The queen. What is she that. The queen of? The leopard queen.
Yeah, yeah. Leopard queen figures out, hey,
my mother never wanted to be trapped in a place like this. Let me find
her. Her. So of course, this is just enough
room for the girls to get through. As you can see their
underpants, you know, as they crawl through this hole and the fellows stop
a bit to look at it. That's like the really old moment of like,
you know, hey, let's exploit these women for no reason
at all just by taking these long shots of their. Of their undies.
You know, that's really. That's really about it, you know,
but. They played it off like nothing.
Yeah, yeah. And. And for. For the time period
they're, you know, because this is. This is a period picture, but it's
presented in the 80s. The. The underwear they're wearing is like,
not like. It's pretty much like granny panties
in, in. In. In comparison to what you're seeing in most contemporary
stuff around this time. You know, it's. It's definitely not anything you're seeing in sex
comedies of this. Of this sort of decade.
They're wearing like this. I. I happen to like,
like frilly underwear and garters and stuff. So I'm like, okay, I'm cool with it.
But like, most people aren't wear. Aren't watching movies with. With stuff like
that in it anymore at this point. Like thong territory.
We're getting into smaller patties. Even the gods must be crazy
films. They're wearing pretty skimpy like underwear when the,
the scenes happen where the female, main female characters, like getting
her dress pulled off or up or whatever, you know, kind of thing.
So, I mean, my God, I think you see skimpier stuff on an episode
of Friends. I think you'd see skim skimpier stuff in
an episode of, like, Marital Children around this time too,
right? Like, yeah, it's. It's so like I said,
it's it for me. I was not. I mean, I've seen.
Trust me, I could write a book on all the exploitation movies
I've seen. This is. It's so, like I said,
light hearted. It's not. No one's leering all that hard.
And if they are leering, they leer for about 30 seconds, they're reprimanded
and they look away. Done. And even the,
even the race stuff in this where, you know, we have a bunch of
savages quote, unquote, coming after them several times.
Like, there's a conversation in this between the Colonel and Tombs
where, like, Tombs is like, this place is not fit for a
white man. It's fit for the black savages and stuff. And the Colonel basically lambast
him, says, like, stop being a racist dick. Like, yeah, I mean,
they're definitely a lot more,
I guess, socially acceptable than anything now. Yeah,
I mean, you know, it. This. The movie's so corny
and dumb that the stereotypes,
you know, it's a joke. Like, it. They're not, they're not just
like, oh, seriously, presenting black Africans
as just savages. You know, they're not doing that.
Just like, they're not leering at Jane. Like, they could be.
They're. They're not being super racist in this.
Like, if anything, they're. They're presenting like the imperialist British guys as kind
of buffoons. And, you know,
they had the conversation about, you know, don't be a racist dick.
You, you, you, you dumb. And if anything,
the, the thing they're really focusing on is the goofy Nazis. And you know,
any movie that punches Nazis out of airplanes is cool to me.
Oh, yeah? Yeah. Even the part,
you know, that where the, the names are actually throwing spears
at them, at their boat. It's done so light.
It would. So with the right amount of comedy that you,
you're not even, you know. Well, another person might
say, oh, they're throwing spears. That. That's, that's racist.
Indigenous people, like, no, it's done so lighted with the right
amount of humor that when they, when they show the, the next
cutscene of Them, you know, soaking wet because their boat has sunk
from all the holes. Yeah, you're like, this,
this is fine, you know. Yeah.
No one's out to butt hurt anybody.
It's the 1980s and it's like, this could have been way more
racist and sexist than it was. Sure, sure, it's light.
It's lightly racist and sexist. But, like, who cares?
Like, if you're bothered by this, you are. You have
problems. Like, there, there is a lot worse in the 1980s that you can legit
be bothered by and like, actually make a point about because there's just
some movies that are like, in this decade especially that are super offensive
and should be criticized. This is just,
this is just dumb. Who cares? Yeah, it's,
it's, it's light, it's. It's not quite full on
slapstick. Yeah. But it's, it,
it's late humor with.
And you know which, and I agree with
you, if anybody is really triggered by this dude,
you have got to go see a doctor.
You just need to see some other movies from this decade because apparently you
haven't, because every, every other movie in this decade is way
worse. Oh, God. If they ever watch Tales from the Hood.
Holy. Their heart will explode. That would blow their minds.
Oh, yeah, someone would. Their head would literally
just explode off their shoulders. And I would pay to see that.
You want to see a racist movie from this decade? Go watch Soul man or
something, then come back to me. Oh,
God. There's a reason I have not thought of that movie in
decades. Yeah. Thanks, Lee.
You want the most racist movie from the 80s? Watch Soul Man. Want to see
the most sexist movie from this decade? Watch, like the Party Animal.
No porkies. Come on. Go full on porky.
Well, no, Porky's actually has, like some good acting
and stuff going on and actually has some, like,
resonance. Whereas, like, the Party Animal is like one
of the most, like, exploitive sex comedies ever made, which is just.
It's not saying a lot. It's the 80s.
Everything. There is no holes bar in the 80s.
I'm just talking about the peaks of the mountain. Oh, yeah, I know.
And there's so many of them. Oh,
my gosh. I think one real flawless movie is that Ian Roberts's
Carl, our Nazi meathead, wasn't really as
much as he should have been because this guy a brick
house. And he's a good foil. He's a good foil to Sam
Jones. Right? Like, they needed to do
more together. They had that. They needed to have a Couple more fights. Yeah,
like him, like press, press slam a villager or two over his head or
something just to prove the strength of Carl and you know,
something, Something more that. I love that Heinrich and all of his
incarnations just keeps getting over at every. Every turn and,
you know. Yeah, we need more meathead Carl doing stuff
in this movie. That's my only real about this movie is that,
you know, Lola Pagola has this,
this.
He doesn't really do much, you know, except like, carry the, the crate,
the, the. The tumor of diamonds out of
the. The hobble there. That's like the only time really shows his strength.
Otherwise he's like this big old meathead who just kind of hangs out, you.
Know, he's pretty much just a stand
in. He's a. He's a big giant mannequin.
Yeah. And he could have eaten up a little more scenery,
in my opinion. Yeah, they just needed a fight.
Yeah, they needed a guy who could physically match
Sam Jones like that. That's all they. And then that's what. That's all
they felt they needed. They. They could have done a lot more with him because
he's fun in this. Like, you know, his, his interactions
with Mod Adams, like, you know, there's. There's subtext there
where. Yeah, they're totally on the side somewhere where, you know. Oh, definitely.
Yeah. You don't see it in the movie, of course, because it's not that kind
of movie, but, yeah, they could
have done worth it. And, you know, he's got that whole rivalry thing
with Jasper Carrot playing Heinrich or
whatever, and, you know, they're always going back and
forth because they both kind of want the approval
of Lola Pegola, so.
Well, he did have a moment where he showed his humanity
when they were messing around in marketplace
with the vendor and he just got sick of it and
went and punched one of them so hard like,
now that. That is seriously
a human moment. He's like, yeah, no, you don't
get to mess with the natives. No, you don't get to act like that.
So. Well, I'm gonna punch you so you'll stop.
I mean, he's. He's a Nazi, but. He is a Nazi.
But he had a redeemable moment.
Yeah, he kind of knows his. Like, I'm the only Nazi in
Africa here. You gotta get
along. To get along, you needed. In this
Indiana Jones ripoff, because that's what it is at the end of the day,
you needed the fight between Jungle Jack
and Carl on the Runway. You needed that kind of fight. Yeah,
yeah. Versus your hero,
you know? Yeah. Because they only kind of had that like, kind of brief fist
fight on the plane, really. And. And in the end, it's like,
it's Jane who basically wins that fight because he's like,
shoot the dog. Because he's, you know, he scared the dog and he's like,
you know, lola, shoot the dog or whatever. And Jane's like,
you. And it knocks his ass. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because at the end of the day, he really wins the film. Fritz the dog,
as portrayed by Magnum the dog acting this
fine in this movie, you know. Yeah,
yeah. He kind of resembles a dog that kind of looks at when you're
having sex and just kind of like, you know, starts crying or
something, but, you know, situation,
you know. But yeah,
he looks. He looks sexually confused. His dog. And also just. It's just
quick cuts to this doctrine that was
serious. And kill the dog. Like the. You will kill a dog. Come on
now. You know. Yeah. Not enough monkey from the
trailer in this movie either. But that's. Again, these are real small things. These are
real small things. And I, I enjoyed the out of it,
but you guys should watch it. But I'll
kick it delete and say. Any final thoughts about Jane in
Lost City? First, final thought. Apparently my
mic level was way down. Thank you,
Streamyard, for doing that. But,
yeah, no, this is fun. I won't go deep
into my fetishes, but Jane, losing your clothes definitely checks
off a box. So I enjoyed that and I enjoyed the light touch
at the same time because, you know, sometimes this stuff can
get into, like, really bad, sleazy territory
where it's like, oh, I'm a. I'm a nasty dirty man for liking
this. But here I'm like, I'm okay with it. It's fun. It's.
It's light and breezy. Nazis get foiled.
They look like fools, as they should, because Nazis are fools and pieces
of. And everybody in this cast is having fun
and they're kind of. They're vibing with each other and they're.
They're rolling with the what's going on here? And there's not a lot going on.
It's. It's not much of a script. It's just kind of a basic
slap sticky thing. It's. It's not.
You know, I'm not gonna sit here and tell you it's one of the
better Indiana Jones rip offs, because it's not.
But it's not a terrible one. It's. It's not like horrible.
It's not unwatchable. It's light and breezy.
Easy squeezy, lemon breezy. Whatever you want to say.
I'd say watch it. You know, if you have a lazy. It's kind of one
of those movies where, and I think this is where I saw pieces and bits
and pieces of it back in the day. It was just one of those things
that would like play on a Sunday or something on tv. And it's
like if you have a lazy Sunday and you, you kind of want a little
bit of an Indiana Jonesy adventury thing going on,
then what? You know, fire this
up on YouTube or whatever and, and watch it and then you
might enjoy it. You know, if you like seeing ladies underwear,
you get a lot of that.
Yes, indeed, Suzanne.
You know, I really wasn't sure what to expect going into
this. I'm like, oh God, this is going to be horrible.
It really isn't. It's as Lisa is just light,
it's breezy, it's funny,
it's goofy. My new hero is the leopard
queen. Down with her. I definitely
want to go sit and sit wine with her and talk about being deposed
to the jungle while reminiscing about my lost love.
I think that would be a fun afternoon. It's not,
it's not bad at all. There's, it's,
there's nothing really rough about
this. It's a nice little PG
Sunday afternoon hangover film.
I kind of liked it a lot more than I thought I
was gonna like it. I'm glad I went into this blind.
Didn't look up anything. So it's fun. And Sam
Jones not shirtless enough.
I forgot to mention that this, the island filmed
this at is more Mauritius which is
island out the coast of east fabric. So I think.
Oh, so I'm sorry. There you go. They use the
location really well as far as. And yeah,
I, I on the,
on the total grand scale of Jade Jade in Lost City though I
really enjoy my time with it. I miss films like this. I think
the last one they were really had that was like Indiana
Jones type adventure film was that very first mummy film with Brendan
Fraser. And I I, it's,
it's good enough for me. I mean I, I need more stuff
like that. You know, we have the dam who's not quite
in distress but she's kind of is, she's kind of independent and
you know, she's. But yeah, nobody's really an afterthought in
this movie. That's what I really liked about this film, that all your
main characters all genuinely had something to do.
And not like. Not like the last movie.
No. For, say, you know, I recommend
Jane to the Lost City exponentially over the prestige film
that is the. That is Monuments. Then. I. I never
thought I'd say this, but. But you know what? If you got 90 minutes plus
some ads, go to Tubi and watch it. It's just,
it's. I think there's a DVD out there, but it's not a label
I never heard of before. But it would not surprise me if, like, Aquino Lorber
picked this up and not even put extras on it.
Well, I. I would love to hear a commentary, but you never can't tell.
But. Oh, God, I think Sam would just embellish
the. Out of it. Yeah, give. Give. Same joke.
Yes, indeed. You can do a lot of this movie.
Bill Murray was in this movie. Like the Bill Murray for Monuments
Men just walked into this movie. Play like the Colonel or something like. Yeah,
that'd be cool. No, Looking for the. The hidden stash and
the diamonds that the Nazis took. Oh,
God, we're onto something here. There we go.
That. That's the. That's the. You. That's the universe.
That's the hit cannon. I want. That's the crossover. The Monuments Men
meets Jane in the Lost City. Bill Murray trying to
get those diamonds and, you know, just making, like, off the cuff
comments about Jane and her garter
bel. Yeah. Bob Balaban,
like, talking with tombs like that. That would work. Oh,
yeah. But for the love of God,
don't step out a landmine. No, yeah, don't do that.
Yeah, yeah. Just a lot of stuff
works for you. The Pratt balls. You know,
Jane loses her clothes in hilarious ways.
Ridiculous. Hogan's Heroes, Nazis in this movie.
Yep. I just. I love
everything about it. And you know what? If you don't like anything about it,
maybe you need more joy in your life. I'm just gonna throw it out there,
you know? Yeah, you could do a lot worse than
Jane the Lost City, in my opinion.
And yeah, I need more meathead.
Meathead Carl in this movie about
this Bill was that. I need that. But it's.
It's. It's a high. A high recommend for me to just
say, you know what? Everybody takes everything so seriously now.
Why not watch this girl get her dress up again in hilarious ways?
It's like, oh, no, Jane got wet from the river. She had their clothes up
again. You know, it's just. It's. It's there
and it's Not. It's not objectifying women all
that much because they're not really. Like we said, they're not really looking at her
that way. You know, they're more saying cover her up than anything else.
So, yeah, it's, it's, it's good. It's, it's.
It's a pure good. I see that about so many films that like this.
But you know what hour 33 minutes is breezy as.
And it'll please you on a hangover
Sunday morning, let's put it that way. Oh, yeah,
yeah. But that's
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All right, that's the end of another one. I'm damn
happy to say it was a good time.
And thank you, Lee, for. For coming on the
show, my friend. And, uh, yeah, it was a pleasure,
man. Yeah, no, this was the highlight of my week,
so thanks for bringing me. Always good to talk to you,
Lee. Yeah. Been a while, Suzanne.
It was. It's fun. Oh, I know it has been.
But I know you got something pushed through. I I just listened to one of
your episodes recently. What you got coming up on? They must
be this right on site. So as of this
recording, our latest episode is the blaxploitation
film Bucktown. Did that with Matt
from Movie Melt and Vaughn from Motion Picture Massacre.
And we're getting together again this Saturday and we're going to be
doing an episode on across 110th Street.
So that will be the next episode. Probably the latest thing
you hear coming out of my feed whenever this drops.
Also doing a My sideshow I
do every month, Blood on the Tracks this month,
of course, Black Exploitation. So it's gonna be another black exploitation playlist.
And they'll be at the end of February. So that'll
be kind of the stuff that's on my feed at that point.
So check that out.
Tmbdos.podbean.com I forgot to get that
in. Yeah,
and anywhere find podcasts or not sold too. You can go find
it there too, you know, or just. Just really bad podcasts.
You can find it in those places too. Probably all the podcasters
get all the stuff. Come on, Sue. Anything going
on with you? No, just kind
of hanging out with the Cinema Beef right now.
Maybe I'll jump on something at some point, but kind
of happy right here right now, and I don't have to stretch my brain that
much. Yeah, Almost went
on a W on Tuesday night, but my. My connection
was shit for some reason. So I was like. Like the moment I sit down
to be on that show, my fucking connection turns into shit, you know? So this
is. Oh, I know. I almost jumped in Tuesday night just because they
were doing dad Snow, which is one of my favorite movies of all time.
Yeah. God, I love that movie. I really, really,
really need a movie poster of Dead Snow. Oh,
yeah. God, I love that movie.
If. Coming up, if you
guys are in Chicago in March, towards the end of
the month days, the Dead's happening, I'll probably be going for a short
time that day. But if you're in the Chicagoland area, you want to come hang
out, have a pint or something? Brit Eckland's gonna be there, which is the main
reason why I'm going, because. Wait, what? She just got announced,
didn't she? Brett Eklund and Bill Duke are gonna
be there. So that's. Those are the two. Damn. The two big ones,
the money. That's what I'm doing, you know.
Oh, I may have to like. Damn,
damn, damn. I'm gonna have to do that.
Damn, damn, damn. It's Gonna. But I
gotta see what my schedule is.
As far as this show goes. I don't know what's coming up next. This one
was kind of built on the wind and you know, should be told X
is taking a slight sabbatical from the show. Which is why we didn't do the
Manitou and the Dark Half. Because already regularly scheduled programming
that was going to involve him is being rescheduled until
he. He's back at it. Uh, no details are necessary.
He just has step away for a month or possibly two.
It's just uh. Yeah, that, that is why you're not hearing him in this episode.
I was just putting it out there. He's. He's denying the people the Manitou and
the Dark Half. He's a monster. It was,
it was a decision. So. Yeah,
you have no idea the rants I
have for that movie. Unfortunately I had to lay them on my husband since
I couldn't lay them on you. And he's like, baby, you better
write this down. I'm going to bed now.
I don't want to hear it anymore. It's Patrick's
first hats he could take. Hey, come on now. You know.
No, but I literally got my hand slamming on the table and
he's like, baby, I'm gonna go to bed now.
Hear him say this too in the pet voice, you know.
Huh. But yeah, I've been doing lazy this streams
on Instagram if you guys can find me there. Beefy Beard
22 on. On Instagram. Some of those baby
shows I just gotta one in with a big ass
cast and called Hang Fire that has
a bunch of. Bunch of genre people in it and I can't
wait to watch that thing. So that, that might be a show with something else
you could. Yeah you could do. You could convert those all into like
cinema beef minis and you could like give him
the what's his face for Legion podcast. He stick them on the YouTube.
You know, you could do all kinds of stuff. I think the
next show you should hear though that we're in talks of recording again
soon will be another in the Paradeway show with John
Cross. So if you guys are enjoying.
Yeah, those are fun because me and John gets stupid
and yes
indeed, the one that's coming next up will be on the Diner
very, very soon because I know he's editing it where we cover into the
sun and what the was the VHS pick.
I forget now. Either way, into the sun with Parade
and Anthony Michael Hall. Oh God.
You like Top Gun? Please tell me it's a horrible version
of Top Gun because I would think I would love the out of that.
Well, they take Top Gun and they take the hard way with Michael J.
Fox and James Woods. They mash them
together by saying Anthony Michael hall is an actor
who wants to be in a fighter pilot movie. So he goes up
with real fighter pilot Michael Perret and gets into some real conflict.
Yeah. And. Oh, it sounds amazing.
It's, it's, it's fine. It's fine. Oh,
I'm trying to get the guy that beat has picked either way. That'll be
on the after movie diner feed to find both these things.
And John Cross has been doing his thing. I'll share the link on the
Simpe page to collect all the episodes on one page.
But that's what we're doing. We're alternating his feed and my feed.
Yeah. So that's, that's fun.
It's fun getting to some lesser known stuff. And the, the one,
one Michael Perret who has had an incredibly long career and
still going today. He has a various looking horror film that's coming out
or it's like the Hills have Eyes but looks like a lot of practical
effects and it's. Oh cool. Called Desert
Fiends. It's called. And it just looks like a gory mess
that I'm gonna enjoy. So yeah,
that's the end of this one. This has been your Cindy podcast
where if you've got beef, we've got the Grinder. See you next
time.