1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,759 Welcome to the Energetic Radio podcast. This episode is brought to you 2 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:09,440 by the school of play dotco, hosted by Dale Sibonham and 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,255 Paul Campbell. Each week, we'll bring to you tips, strategies, and ideas 4 00:00:13,255 --> 00:00:16,535 on how you can bring more joy and happiness into your life and those you 5 00:00:16,535 --> 00:00:20,375 share with. Alrighty, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to 6 00:00:20,375 --> 00:00:24,055 Energetic Radio Podcast, episode number 344. My name is Dale 7 00:00:24,055 --> 00:00:27,435 Cybottom, joined by my co host, Paul Campbell. Good afternoon, everyone. 8 00:00:27,930 --> 00:00:31,770 Now very exciting. Lauren, we've been chatting for probably on 9 00:00:31,770 --> 00:00:35,610 over a year now. Obviously, we live close by previous 10 00:00:35,610 --> 00:00:39,050 teachers setting up companies and so forth. Very excited to 11 00:00:39,290 --> 00:00:42,585 and I've always wanted to help and reach out to people and because it's 12 00:00:42,745 --> 00:00:46,425 there's no blueprint on how you do these things. It's not like you go to 13 00:00:46,425 --> 00:00:49,225 uni and, hey, then you become a presenter and this is what you do. There's 14 00:00:49,225 --> 00:00:52,985 nothing there and you sort of forge your own way. So founder 15 00:00:52,985 --> 00:00:56,780 of think I couldn't even spit that out. That was good. Think set. Go. There 16 00:00:56,780 --> 00:01:00,540 we go. Finally got it. Sorry, Lauren. How's it all going? And more 17 00:01:00,540 --> 00:01:04,160 importantly, I wanna my big question for you is before we get started, 18 00:01:05,260 --> 00:01:08,995 what's lit you up in the last 7 days? What's lit me up? It lit 19 00:01:08,995 --> 00:01:12,755 you up. What's got you up and about? Well, definitely something that got me 20 00:01:12,755 --> 00:01:16,515 up and about was the Melbourne marathon yesterday, and I'm feeling like I don't 21 00:01:16,515 --> 00:01:20,035 wanna be up and about today. As in you ran the marathon yourself? You've all 22 00:01:20,035 --> 00:01:22,915 done. I'm very good. And I haven't trained for about 8 weeks because I've had 23 00:01:22,915 --> 00:01:26,619 a hamstring injury trying to sell my ticket the whole time and 24 00:01:26,619 --> 00:01:30,140 couldn't sell it. So last weekend, I'm like, screw it. I'll just go. I'll wear 25 00:01:30,140 --> 00:01:33,520 my ThinkSet Go top and just chat with people if I'm walking at the back, 26 00:01:33,740 --> 00:01:37,125 but I ran it and I ran the whole way without any pain. Well 27 00:01:37,125 --> 00:01:40,885 done. So it was a it was an interesting moment where I was, like, I 28 00:01:40,885 --> 00:01:44,005 was probably more scared. I was trying to sell my ticket because I was more 29 00:01:44,005 --> 00:01:47,845 scared that I would start to feel the the pain. Right. I was, 30 00:01:47,845 --> 00:01:51,690 like, imagining the pain, but then the pain didn't actually eventuate. So I was, like, 31 00:01:51,690 --> 00:01:55,450 building this up to be really bad, and it was actually totally awesome. Good on 32 00:01:55,450 --> 00:01:59,210 your hamstrings. Yeah. So, yeah, my mindset had to shift, 33 00:01:59,210 --> 00:02:02,810 and that's what slipped me up to it. Well done. And congratulations. That's amazing. 34 00:02:02,810 --> 00:02:06,445 Thanks. Yeah. Lovely. And the whole experience, like, I've done a couple of 35 00:02:06,445 --> 00:02:09,985 half before, never a full marathon, but just the crowd's buzz. 36 00:02:10,044 --> 00:02:13,885 Like Was it your first one? No. I've done a I've done a marathon in 37 00:02:13,885 --> 00:02:17,345 a few halves before. I like the half marathon distance the best. Yep. 38 00:02:17,849 --> 00:02:21,450 More that the training is doable with little kids. Like Yeah. Good point. The full 39 00:02:21,450 --> 00:02:24,489 marathon training. My husband's doing it, and so it's like we both can't do this. 40 00:02:24,489 --> 00:02:26,810 You do that, and I'll do that. Someone's gonna be at home. Yeah. I know. 41 00:02:26,810 --> 00:02:29,221 But he's like I don't know how long it's going to have to have a 42 00:02:29,221 --> 00:02:32,685 stroll for 21 performance. That's for sure. Yeah. So, yeah. 43 00:02:33,165 --> 00:02:36,765 Now, Lauren, obviously, you were a teacher, had a couple of 44 00:02:36,765 --> 00:02:40,525 kids, and while you're having your second, you started planning think think set 45 00:02:40,525 --> 00:02:44,125 go. Yes. Oh, I can't see that. I'm not having a Three three 46 00:02:44,125 --> 00:02:47,724 words. Oh, no. I'm battling with that. Sorry then. Talk to us about 47 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,680 obviously, a lot of people have ideas and they they think about it, but 48 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,200 actually doing something is not always easy or they don't know where to start. When 49 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,740 did the idea come in and how did it sort of all come about? Yeah. 50 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,534 Well, my background is in me doing a lot of sport and 51 00:03:02,534 --> 00:03:05,894 myself. And then as a head of sport, I was seeing and helping a lot 52 00:03:05,894 --> 00:03:09,594 of other people do students do sport, play sport. But 53 00:03:09,814 --> 00:03:13,655 when I played sport, I was I decided to I wanted to 54 00:03:13,655 --> 00:03:17,060 play at a fairly high level. So I when women's AFL started in 55 00:03:17,060 --> 00:03:20,660 2017, I decided, let's try this. I'd never played 56 00:03:20,660 --> 00:03:24,420 before, didn't know the positions or anything, but I took took that phrase of you 57 00:03:24,420 --> 00:03:27,380 can do anything you put your mind to, and I thought, let's actually test out 58 00:03:27,380 --> 00:03:30,905 the theory on that. And I just started to 59 00:03:30,905 --> 00:03:33,944 try and figure out ways to get as far as I could in the shortest 60 00:03:33,944 --> 00:03:37,465 amount of time because I was 28, and I started to play, 61 00:03:38,185 --> 00:03:41,325 at, like, a club that had a VFL pathway, then 62 00:03:41,890 --> 00:03:45,170 didn't just stick with the coach at the set at the club. I found my 63 00:03:45,170 --> 00:03:48,790 own coach and, actually, that's Jack Watts' dad, 64 00:03:48,849 --> 00:03:52,610 Andrew. Yes. He he he didn't he just I stumbled across 65 00:03:52,610 --> 00:03:56,325 him, at a park and, he just said, you know, look, I've trained my 66 00:03:56,325 --> 00:04:00,005 son. I'd love to help you out. And he just, for free, the kind of 67 00:04:00,005 --> 00:04:03,765 of his heart Wow. Spent hours and hours with me over about 3 68 00:04:03,765 --> 00:04:07,445 years helping me develop as a it was a mentor to me, but I 69 00:04:07,445 --> 00:04:11,180 never, I never searched that. I just put out into the world 70 00:04:11,180 --> 00:04:13,820 that I wanted this goal of being as good as I can, and then things 71 00:04:13,820 --> 00:04:17,500 just kinda happened. And and then I was captain before I'd even played my first 72 00:04:17,500 --> 00:04:21,339 game, probably just because of the relationship I was building with coaches and 73 00:04:21,339 --> 00:04:24,875 teammates because I really wanted this goal. And 74 00:04:24,935 --> 00:04:28,775 then I worked my way up to BFL for North Melbourne and 75 00:04:28,775 --> 00:04:32,215 then Carlton. Anyway, I was vice cap captain at 76 00:04:32,215 --> 00:04:36,055 Carlton and I was trying to help players, but, really, the mental game 77 00:04:36,055 --> 00:04:39,419 for myself became such a big facet of the 78 00:04:39,419 --> 00:04:43,180 game that I couldn't quite grasp. I would just 79 00:04:43,180 --> 00:04:46,539 hold on to things that go wrong in a game or that I felt I 80 00:04:46,539 --> 00:04:50,380 didn't do or a comment from a coach or player. I would just 81 00:04:50,380 --> 00:04:53,455 hold on to these things and I'm like I was sitting in the auditorium once 82 00:04:53,455 --> 00:04:56,655 thinking, I need someone to come in right now and tell me something that's going 83 00:04:56,655 --> 00:05:00,335 to shift my mindset, and there wasn't anyone. We're just going on about game 84 00:05:00,335 --> 00:05:04,015 structure, and I was just just like, I'm sure I'm not the only athlete here 85 00:05:04,015 --> 00:05:07,550 who needs this shift in in headspace. And, 86 00:05:08,810 --> 00:05:12,650 sorry, there wasn't anything. So I thought, okay. Well, once footy finishes, I'll just 87 00:05:12,650 --> 00:05:16,090 get as much information as I can on this side of the game, the mental 88 00:05:16,090 --> 00:05:19,770 game, and then I'm gonna just create something where I can bring this to sporting 89 00:05:19,770 --> 00:05:23,514 clubs and, obviously, as a teacher, students to help people with the 90 00:05:23,514 --> 00:05:27,295 mental game and, when they have goals. So 91 00:05:27,355 --> 00:05:31,195 often we have goals, but we don't really we don't really 92 00:05:31,195 --> 00:05:34,155 break it down into how do I have to think, what can I do to 93 00:05:34,155 --> 00:05:36,555 set myself up, and then how do I actually do what needs to be done 94 00:05:36,555 --> 00:05:40,289 even when I don't want to? Yeah. So those three facets, I think, set, go. 95 00:05:40,830 --> 00:05:44,590 I like it. Yeah. So I'm I'm baffled by that bit of 96 00:05:44,590 --> 00:05:48,430 background. I worked at Collingwood with the AFLW, in play well-being and play 97 00:05:48,430 --> 00:05:52,215 in development. And we're all about mindset from the get go, from 98 00:05:52,215 --> 00:05:55,335 the from the inaugural year, and we made sure that we because a lot of 99 00:05:55,335 --> 00:05:59,175 the girls really did struggle to move on. They really did. 100 00:05:59,175 --> 00:06:01,495 They they held on to a lot of things and and clogged up, you know, 101 00:06:01,495 --> 00:06:05,255 their their decision maker. So you're saying it can't that they didn't really get that 102 00:06:05,255 --> 00:06:08,290 right early on. You don't even think? I don't recall anything 103 00:06:08,830 --> 00:06:12,450 being said explicitly and sometimes it needs to be said explicitly. 104 00:06:12,750 --> 00:06:16,590 Try this, try that. Yep. Well, you're all new young professional athletes. 105 00:06:16,590 --> 00:06:20,370 Right? A lot of you were new to to being professional athletes. So, 106 00:06:20,815 --> 00:06:24,015 you need to learn. You need to be educated. So Yeah. Yeah. Well, that how 107 00:06:24,015 --> 00:06:27,135 good is that? It's led you to this. Yeah. Yeah. It's brilliant. Well done. It's 108 00:06:27,135 --> 00:06:29,895 quite intentional. Lucky that you're at Carlton and point on Collinwood because No. No. No. 109 00:06:29,895 --> 00:06:31,715 That's not why we're so well focused. It's 110 00:06:49,775 --> 00:06:53,535 So clubs are saying, this is an angle that we need to give everyone an 111 00:06:53,535 --> 00:06:57,215 edge or to help them cope. And to be honest, it transfers to 112 00:06:57,215 --> 00:07:00,975 school for these young people, but life in general because I'm applying so much of 113 00:07:00,975 --> 00:07:04,175 this to myself doing this business as well. Oh, you really do, don't you? Yeah. 114 00:07:04,175 --> 00:07:06,680 And that's when you know you've got a winner when you can apply it in 115 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,640 your own life and you can feel it. We also have the importance of feeling 116 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,280 things rather than being told things and to feel it. And that's when it really 117 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,840 sinks in. And the fact that you get to apply it in your own life 118 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,400 and feel it for yourself and go right, it works and then go from there 119 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,700 or that didn't quite hit the mark, whatever it might be. So, yeah. Cool. 120 00:07:21,764 --> 00:07:25,544 You must be loving the life. You you're PE teacher, sport nut, obviously. 121 00:07:25,685 --> 00:07:29,445 And then you get to put your both passions together and work in professional 122 00:07:29,445 --> 00:07:33,205 sporting environments and help people out. All done. All done. It's like I said, 123 00:07:33,205 --> 00:07:36,840 it's all intentional though. Like, this is the same with the footy 124 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,040 goal. It's it's not that I just wanted to play. It's that I wanted to 125 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,160 play it at a late level. Mhmm. This is not just me just if I 126 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,520 wanted to just teach, I would just continue to be a PE teacher. So the 127 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,275 intention here is to explicitly give someone something that they may 128 00:07:50,275 --> 00:07:53,875 not have thought about. And, yes, we do that as teachers all the time, 129 00:07:53,875 --> 00:07:57,715 but it's in a unique environment. When someone else comes in 130 00:07:57,715 --> 00:08:01,555 and talks about something, it changes, kids' perspective on 131 00:08:01,555 --> 00:08:04,090 it. You know, the teacher can go on and bang on about it all day, 132 00:08:04,090 --> 00:08:07,770 but when someone else comes in, it changes the Yeah. Have you always been 133 00:08:07,849 --> 00:08:10,490 sorry, sorry. I don't mind, Jack. I just said, I came in and going, I've 134 00:08:10,490 --> 00:08:14,275 got no questions and here I am. Have you that's true. 135 00:08:14,275 --> 00:08:17,955 I can't help myself. No worries. Have you have you always been 136 00:08:17,955 --> 00:08:21,555 a a challenge seeker? I've I've met you now for a short period of time, 137 00:08:21,555 --> 00:08:25,255 but I'm getting the feeling like you you set goals. You're a challenge seeker. 138 00:08:25,474 --> 00:08:28,995 Is that always been you? Is that always been your genetic makeup? Not intentionally to 139 00:08:28,995 --> 00:08:32,720 set the goals, but yeah. Absolutely. Like, it probably started when I 140 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,320 was, like well, I was primary school captain, and I feel like when you start 141 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,080 to go for leadership roles early on, you get into that habit of like, 142 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,775 you get confidence. So when one when you get confidence from one 143 00:08:43,775 --> 00:08:47,295 place, it transfers then to the next challenge. So that probably 144 00:08:47,295 --> 00:08:51,055 helped. I when I was 13, 12, 145 00:08:51,055 --> 00:08:54,095 13, I wanted to know how to surf and I didn't I just really wanted 146 00:08:54,095 --> 00:08:57,215 to be able to surf properly when I was older, and so I 147 00:08:57,910 --> 00:09:01,190 that was probably the first goal that I intentionally tried to master, but we don't 148 00:09:01,190 --> 00:09:04,550 live near the coast. It's surf beaches. So It's pretty hard to surf. It's a 149 00:09:04,550 --> 00:09:08,230 bit hard. Right? Yeah. Well, actually, we have surfed at Mordellike Pier 150 00:09:08,230 --> 00:09:12,028 before, so Oh, there you go sometimes. It's gonna be very windy. Yeah. It 151 00:09:12,028 --> 00:09:15,574 is. It's like it's like point break the perfect storm. Yeah. After a 152 00:09:15,574 --> 00:09:18,535 storm. It's a 1 in 50 year storm now. It's a 1 in 50 year 153 00:09:18,535 --> 00:09:22,295 storm. It is. Like, I don't recommend it, but it's possible. But 154 00:09:22,295 --> 00:09:25,735 then yeah. So that was probably one of my first goals, and it took me 155 00:09:25,735 --> 00:09:29,110 years. Like, urban surf then opened up in the city and that was 156 00:09:29,110 --> 00:09:32,870 actually a big money waster, but we spent a lot of money there. Me and 157 00:09:32,870 --> 00:09:35,750 my husband, we go we used to go there a lot before kids, and that 158 00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:39,430 helped us develop in a predictable in bull environment because you could go for a 159 00:09:39,430 --> 00:09:43,245 surf any day, but you're not gonna get waves that are gonna support you or 160 00:09:43,245 --> 00:09:46,465 help you. So going somewhere like that was helpful. And then, 161 00:09:47,165 --> 00:09:50,285 you know, one day I just decided I wanted to work in a in a 162 00:09:50,285 --> 00:09:53,985 market, so I created, like, a 1,000 pieces of jewelry out of clay 163 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,960 and then I just applied to work in markets. So I guess that is just 164 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,800 setting goals and just going. Just doing And then I I I do 165 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,560 artwork on surfboards, and I just, like, have about 6 surfboards. I 166 00:10:05,560 --> 00:10:08,945 just went nuts and did all my artwork on them, and then in COVID, just 167 00:10:08,945 --> 00:10:12,305 did a whole mural on my garage wall. So maybe I have got a weird 168 00:10:12,305 --> 00:10:16,065 obsessive personality now that you have. Thank you for that. 169 00:10:16,065 --> 00:10:19,665 No. No. This Lauren's like, I've just learned something about 170 00:10:19,665 --> 00:10:23,470 myself. This podcast is fun. It's so fun. Like, it's just 171 00:10:24,110 --> 00:10:27,950 you just figure out when you really want something, you figure out how to get 172 00:10:27,950 --> 00:10:31,570 it into your life. And often, we don't have 173 00:10:31,790 --> 00:10:35,230 interesting things going on just because we haven't decided what we wanna do. Yeah. I 174 00:10:35,230 --> 00:10:38,675 just think sometimes I decide on something, and I go all at it to see 175 00:10:38,675 --> 00:10:42,514 just for fun. Have the market was the market successful? No. That's why I 176 00:10:42,514 --> 00:10:46,035 don't do it anymore. That's okay. I think I got too clumsy and 177 00:10:46,035 --> 00:10:49,795 lazy with the artworks with the with the jewelry making. I was like, this 178 00:10:49,795 --> 00:10:53,610 is this is hard work. Early mornings, And and with kids now, no. None. None 179 00:10:53,610 --> 00:10:57,450 had. Yeah. And did that, the obviously, the creative element element. Because what you 180 00:10:57,450 --> 00:11:01,130 just said, Lauren, is you've done clay, do you're designing, you're painting on 181 00:11:01,130 --> 00:11:04,890 surfboards. Yeah. How important is that creative element in only your life, but 182 00:11:04,890 --> 00:11:08,615 what you do at work now? Well, I guess, yeah, it transfers very well. But 183 00:11:08,615 --> 00:11:12,455 it's now in how I present my workshops. What are the kids and 184 00:11:12,455 --> 00:11:16,295 and the adults and the participants gonna find interesting, and how do I 185 00:11:16,295 --> 00:11:19,495 get this message across in a creative way? I guess that's where it fits in. 186 00:11:19,495 --> 00:11:23,180 And one day I'd love to use my artwork somehow in this, but I don't 187 00:11:23,180 --> 00:11:26,220 know how. Yeah. Do it as much. And that's something I've learned till you're on, 188 00:11:26,220 --> 00:11:28,540 but you're a guru at it. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I was 189 00:11:28,540 --> 00:11:32,220 doing a presentation last week and bit of chalk and talk and when I 190 00:11:32,220 --> 00:11:35,405 finished and Doug goes, I've got a game for that. And literally, and now we've 191 00:11:35,405 --> 00:11:38,045 created a bit of a game and that's why you work well together. You've got 192 00:11:38,045 --> 00:11:41,485 different minds towards the same goal. Yeah. So you're right though. Finding a way to 193 00:11:41,485 --> 00:11:45,005 engage your participants, I think is absolutely key. Isn't it? For sure. When they're having 194 00:11:45,005 --> 00:11:47,550 fun, they learn better. Well, we wouldn't want to do a boring workshop. Yep. And 195 00:11:47,550 --> 00:11:51,030 we have to do them all the time. Yep. I know. So Correct. Let's create 196 00:11:51,030 --> 00:11:54,870 new ones. Exactly right. Exactly right. So talk about when the idea came Yeah. 197 00:11:54,950 --> 00:11:58,550 Think that set go. More importantly, from that idea 198 00:11:58,550 --> 00:12:02,345 though, how did it come to life? Like, that's what I wanna know because 199 00:12:02,345 --> 00:12:05,485 I I love hearing this, and I know there's probably a lot of people listening 200 00:12:05,705 --> 00:12:08,745 that might have an idea. And it it doesn't have to be around workshops, but 201 00:12:08,745 --> 00:12:12,420 everyone's got a passion project or something that they really believe in. How did you 202 00:12:12,420 --> 00:12:15,960 actually take that idea and bring it to life? Because that's the hardest part. 203 00:12:16,100 --> 00:12:19,940 Well, I would definitely say there's gotta be the background work done 204 00:12:19,940 --> 00:12:23,620 on figuring out, a 205 00:12:23,620 --> 00:12:27,455 whole lot of elements to it before you then jump in, because I 206 00:12:27,455 --> 00:12:31,075 think that sometimes if we jump in too quickly, it won't last. So 207 00:12:31,295 --> 00:12:34,735 I again, following the think, set, go structure without meaning 208 00:12:34,735 --> 00:12:38,230 to, I had, see, I was I remember when I had my 209 00:12:38,230 --> 00:12:41,370 first baby, I was, breastfeeding a lot and thinking, 210 00:12:42,470 --> 00:12:45,829 at that time when I'm in the room, how I would design it all and 211 00:12:45,829 --> 00:12:48,790 mapping it all out. And then I physically went and wrote bits of paper, and 212 00:12:48,790 --> 00:12:52,025 it's still on my wall. This would be done like this, and these are the 213 00:12:52,025 --> 00:12:55,485 key concepts, and this could then happen next, and these are the key concepts. 214 00:12:55,945 --> 00:12:59,305 Physically put it on a wall so I could see how it would look and 215 00:12:59,305 --> 00:13:01,865 everything I wanted to touch on. And then, 216 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,440 I went back to my previous school and asked if I could start running my 217 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,200 workshops there for free. So I did do a couple of workshops there, about 218 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,880 3 workshops, and that's what really made me believe in myself because I'm like, 219 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,655 okay. This is gonna be effective, and the feedback I 220 00:13:17,655 --> 00:13:21,115 got was helpful and useful and meaningful, and 221 00:13:21,655 --> 00:13:25,415 they liked it. So that was all really good reassurance. And 222 00:13:25,415 --> 00:13:29,255 then I started to just reach out to other schools, and, social 223 00:13:29,255 --> 00:13:32,170 media was a tough one for me because I didn't even use it myself as 224 00:13:32,170 --> 00:13:35,930 a person. Very similar. I have to teach him I have to teach him how 225 00:13:35,930 --> 00:13:39,150 to create an account. I didn't have Instagram literally before 226 00:13:39,530 --> 00:13:43,370 before this. Yeah. And it's like, how do I post these, like, what? It's a 227 00:13:43,370 --> 00:13:47,045 lot, isn't it? And then you get nervous of what people think, but actually, like 228 00:13:47,185 --> 00:13:51,024 no one is even probably looking at first. Yeah. No. No. I 229 00:13:51,024 --> 00:13:53,985 used to go for it. Yeah. I've I've come to Chris. I said in the 230 00:13:53,985 --> 00:13:56,145 last part, I had a bit of impossessing your own from now and again, but 231 00:13:56,145 --> 00:13:59,265 I'm getting more comfortable with it. So you definitely get more comfortable with the uncomfortable, 232 00:13:59,265 --> 00:14:02,449 I guess. But, and that's a good message. Right? Get yourself out there and and 233 00:14:02,449 --> 00:14:05,889 learn to be comfortable with the uncomfortable. Otherwise, you're not you're not moving forward. 234 00:14:05,889 --> 00:14:09,730 So, you know, take the plunge. Be brave. Yeah. That's good. And 235 00:14:09,730 --> 00:14:12,689 it's scary and it still is. And I don't think that's enough reason to not 236 00:14:12,689 --> 00:14:16,425 do it. Nope. That's why it's like, if you feel 237 00:14:16,425 --> 00:14:19,865 that challenge, you kinda know you're on some onto something. And, 238 00:14:20,345 --> 00:14:24,185 I think a lot of people settle for knowing what they know and doing 239 00:14:24,185 --> 00:14:27,645 what they do, and I did too. But once I just 240 00:14:28,769 --> 00:14:32,209 figured out in my head what do I wanna see myself doing down the 241 00:14:32,209 --> 00:14:35,970 track, worked my way back into, like, hey, what can I start doing now, which 242 00:14:35,970 --> 00:14:39,730 I didn't quit my job straight away? Well, I was on 243 00:14:39,730 --> 00:14:43,475 maternity leave, so I was different boat, but I wouldn't suggest 244 00:14:43,475 --> 00:14:47,235 just going and quitting a job. Mhmm. Just start feeding it into 245 00:14:47,235 --> 00:14:50,835 your life, whatever it is you wanna do, and then you'll find it either is 246 00:14:50,835 --> 00:14:53,795 what you wanna do or not. I'm really curious when you 247 00:14:54,699 --> 00:14:58,060 and depends on how honest you want to be when you were teaching within mornings, 248 00:14:58,060 --> 00:15:01,500 when you woke up and went, you know, got to go to work. Do you 249 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:04,860 still have that same feeling now that your every morning you wake up to put 250 00:15:04,860 --> 00:15:08,675 something in for your own baby and your own business? Has that changed? That's 251 00:15:08,735 --> 00:15:11,455 the number one key that keeps me going is the fact that I don't dread 252 00:15:11,455 --> 00:15:15,055 anything anymore. How good is that? Yeah. Yeah. And that's how I know. Like, 253 00:15:15,055 --> 00:15:18,895 aside from, obviously, like, the ups and downs financially, moving out 254 00:15:18,895 --> 00:15:22,690 of a consistent pay, you know, financial situation for 255 00:15:22,690 --> 00:15:26,370 myself is very, very daunting, and I I don't 256 00:15:26,370 --> 00:15:30,050 like that aspect of it. But it's like, you've 257 00:15:30,050 --> 00:15:33,430 gotta start somewhere, and this is when people say, 258 00:15:33,730 --> 00:15:37,555 it's tough. This is what I'm going through. This is the tough phase 259 00:15:37,555 --> 00:15:41,235 as it builds. I know it will get easier, but also it might 260 00:15:41,235 --> 00:15:44,835 never get easy. It's just another challenge that's gonna come my 261 00:15:44,835 --> 00:15:48,275 way. So I'm being challenged in that area, but that's, 262 00:15:49,395 --> 00:15:53,220 like, it's worth it. Yeah. So Yeah. And you spot 263 00:15:53,220 --> 00:15:56,579 it. I feel the same way. And the tens of 1,000, if not millions of 264 00:15:56,579 --> 00:15:58,899 people out there that dread getting up in the morning, go to work and don't 265 00:15:58,899 --> 00:16:02,100 do anything about it. Right? And they sit in that for 10, 15, 20, 25 266 00:16:02,100 --> 00:16:05,825 years. Mhmm. Yeah. I feel the same. I said 267 00:16:06,045 --> 00:16:09,165 corny as as anything, but I don't feel like I've gone to work yet. Yeah. 268 00:16:09,165 --> 00:16:12,045 Which would be crazy, but since jumping ship and getting it. Yeah. Which is really 269 00:16:12,045 --> 00:16:15,805 nice. So good message. Yeah. If you're stuck in that massive 270 00:16:15,805 --> 00:16:19,030 rut, do something about it. Challenge yourself and be brave. And Well, that's also the 271 00:16:19,030 --> 00:16:22,070 think, set, go approach. It's like, if you don't take on anything else, just say 272 00:16:22,070 --> 00:16:25,910 to yourself, can I change how I'm thinking, setting myself up and 273 00:16:25,910 --> 00:16:29,750 going, and actually taking action? So it might 274 00:16:29,750 --> 00:16:33,415 be say, for example, it's going to the gym. It's like some people wait for 275 00:16:33,415 --> 00:16:36,935 a health scare to motivate them. Other people just 276 00:16:36,935 --> 00:16:40,455 might, have, like, a goal, like, they wanna look good for summer or something. So 277 00:16:40,455 --> 00:16:44,215 they've got that motivation, but it still might not occur because they haven't factored 278 00:16:44,215 --> 00:16:47,920 it into their week. And then even though they factored into their week, which is 279 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,760 the setup phase, they actually can't go when they need to. So it's like, how 280 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,400 do you just get yourself to do what needs to be done? I think if 281 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,160 you can figure out tweaking one of those three elements, you'll achieve 282 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,765 so much more. And it's also just it's just so rewarding. 283 00:17:01,825 --> 00:17:05,505 It's like sometimes I think it's like getting paid. We don't get 284 00:17:05,505 --> 00:17:08,885 paid on the day that we do the job. Mhmm. We get paid later, 285 00:17:09,424 --> 00:17:13,184 2 weeks later, a month later, whatever it is. So you're looking after your 286 00:17:13,184 --> 00:17:16,930 future self, and that's how I see goals. It's what you do 287 00:17:16,930 --> 00:17:20,770 now will look after your future self. Oh. I love bits 288 00:17:20,770 --> 00:17:23,490 of gold from that job too. It's very true. That is very true. Very true. 289 00:17:23,490 --> 00:17:26,954 And I think, for what you're saying, honestly, they're resonating that 290 00:17:28,154 --> 00:17:31,855 that security of having a job is fantastic and easy, but 291 00:17:31,914 --> 00:17:35,595 I you you need, I feel, those highs and lows. And 292 00:17:35,595 --> 00:17:38,315 like you're saying, you don't know when you get paid. You know when things are 293 00:17:38,315 --> 00:17:42,090 coming in, that motivates you more. And I think the big thing is 294 00:17:42,090 --> 00:17:45,610 everything you're doing now, Aaron, is for you. You're not building it for someone else. 295 00:17:45,610 --> 00:17:49,450 Yeah. And that's probably the most rewarding thing that I've found. The highs 296 00:17:49,450 --> 00:17:53,155 and lows are very hard. They're great, but they're not. But everything you're doing, 297 00:17:53,155 --> 00:17:56,595 it's for you, for nobody else. Yep. That's I think that's the best thing about 298 00:17:56,595 --> 00:17:59,875 it. Yeah. That that reminds me of when I was head of sport. You put 299 00:17:59,875 --> 00:18:02,915 a lot of work in to help the students, to help the school, but as 300 00:18:02,915 --> 00:18:05,635 soon as you might step away and someone else comes in, they can change it 301 00:18:05,635 --> 00:18:09,340 and do whatever they like. And then you feel that your hard work might not 302 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,639 have meant what you what you hoped it would. And, this doing something 303 00:18:13,639 --> 00:18:17,259 for yourself allows you to build and evolve and grow something that, 304 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,135 like, you can take forward to the end. There's 305 00:18:21,135 --> 00:18:23,855 no one gonna come in and take it off you sometimes. And and think about 306 00:18:23,855 --> 00:18:27,375 the things you're teaching your kids. Like, I know they're only young still, but they're 307 00:18:27,375 --> 00:18:31,135 watching mom grow up, you know, chasing her dreams, chasing her goals, being, you 308 00:18:31,135 --> 00:18:34,300 know, being her own boss, those sort of things. And and also being around more 309 00:18:34,300 --> 00:18:36,700 for them. I imagine, I imagine you've got more time for your kids as well, 310 00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:40,380 which is the bonus. So you'd teaching your kids invaluable skills and 311 00:18:40,380 --> 00:18:43,980 they they they sponges. Right? They'll absorb all of that. And so even yeah. Love 312 00:18:43,980 --> 00:18:47,660 it. I think that's that's that's the thing. They they learn by viewing, by 313 00:18:47,660 --> 00:18:50,675 watching, not by being told. And I think that's exactly the same in the work 314 00:18:50,675 --> 00:18:54,355 we're doing that you can't tell someone to be happy. You can't tell 315 00:18:54,355 --> 00:18:57,315 someone to be healthy. They need to feel it, and they need to do it 316 00:18:57,315 --> 00:19:00,995 themselves. Do you find that's the hardest thing? You know, we all want to 317 00:19:00,995 --> 00:19:04,515 improve. We all particularly kids in schools, we wanna get better mental health, 318 00:19:04,515 --> 00:19:08,350 but no one can do it for you. Yeah. Like, that that's the most 319 00:19:08,730 --> 00:19:11,450 simple as bit of advice, but it's the hardest bit. Do you find that really 320 00:19:11,450 --> 00:19:15,210 hard? Yeah. For sure. Because it's not really until 321 00:19:15,210 --> 00:19:18,970 the challenge occurs that you realize you need the information that you heard the other 322 00:19:18,970 --> 00:19:22,605 day. Mhmm. And so sometimes I'll be sharing this content and it's not 323 00:19:22,605 --> 00:19:26,445 hitting home with anyone or some people are getting it and some people aren't. The 324 00:19:26,445 --> 00:19:29,485 next day, if they listen to it, a different group of people would understand it. 325 00:19:29,485 --> 00:19:32,730 The next day, the kid that wasn't listening the first day would be loving it. 326 00:19:32,809 --> 00:19:36,250 It all depends what's going on in their life. Mhmm. And I find 327 00:19:36,250 --> 00:19:40,010 that, it's the same with, say, parenting, like, what 328 00:19:40,010 --> 00:19:43,130 I did with my kids at one day won't work the next day, and so 329 00:19:43,130 --> 00:19:46,654 it's like always adapting and talking to people in a way they understand. 330 00:19:47,195 --> 00:19:50,654 And then that's where the go when I actually run a think, set, go session, 331 00:19:50,715 --> 00:19:54,475 the go element is activities and games because that's one way that we 332 00:19:54,475 --> 00:19:57,820 can challenge someone out of their comfort zone to then get a little bit of 333 00:19:57,820 --> 00:20:00,880 a feeling of what the concept is that we're trying to portray 334 00:20:01,340 --> 00:20:04,880 with them. When you feel, like we were saying before, when you feel 335 00:20:05,740 --> 00:20:09,260 that stuck challenge, yucky, out of comfort zone 336 00:20:09,260 --> 00:20:12,894 feeling, it's, oh, that's why I apply 337 00:20:12,894 --> 00:20:16,495 these techniques. That's when I apply them. But if you're not feeling 338 00:20:16,495 --> 00:20:20,255 that, it doesn't resonate straight away. Yeah. Gotcha. Sometimes it's lighter and 339 00:20:20,255 --> 00:20:23,635 it's too late. Yeah. So the think set go is the model 340 00:20:24,340 --> 00:20:28,100 is the model there for to improve well-being or is it more so in 341 00:20:28,100 --> 00:20:31,540 goal setting or is it a mixture of both? What's what's the main sort of 342 00:20:31,540 --> 00:20:35,240 crux behind think set go? I do call it mindset education 343 00:20:35,380 --> 00:20:39,095 for goal pursuit or goal achievement mindset education, game 344 00:20:39,955 --> 00:20:43,795 Yep. Was the initial concept there. So it's like you have goals, how do 345 00:20:43,795 --> 00:20:47,635 you pursue them with the bright with good mental wellness? And that can be 346 00:20:47,635 --> 00:20:51,120 small goals, big goals. So it's all about well-being, but 347 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,800 it does also tailor it's catered to specific 348 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,320 goals. Yeah. I like it. It's kind of a bit similar. Like, you you can't 349 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,440 give to yourself. You gotta give to yourself first, right, before you can reach your 350 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,320 dreams and those sorts of things. So look after does. Sure. Yeah. You gotta look 351 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,495 after yourself first and foremost. Yeah. Yeah. And then you better achieve your goals and 352 00:21:07,495 --> 00:21:11,255 and your dreams. I like it. I like it. And and so we're obviously 353 00:21:11,255 --> 00:21:15,095 big into play here. Yeah. How important is play not only in your 354 00:21:15,095 --> 00:21:18,790 life, in your workshops, but with your kids as well? Isn't it good to 355 00:21:18,790 --> 00:21:21,750 be a parent because you learn to play again? Yes. You do. That is the 356 00:21:21,750 --> 00:21:25,510 number one thing. I think looking after your body 357 00:21:25,510 --> 00:21:28,950 so you can get down and up and actually be on the floor with them 358 00:21:28,950 --> 00:21:32,470 and and play like that is a big thing that I've been, 359 00:21:32,470 --> 00:21:36,095 like, learning because yeah. It's just, 360 00:21:36,255 --> 00:21:40,015 the element of play is so fulfilling, and it 361 00:21:40,015 --> 00:21:43,615 makes you so happy, and it's an internal happiness based on 362 00:21:43,615 --> 00:21:47,450 something external, but it's a real feeling, like, you can't fake 363 00:21:47,450 --> 00:21:50,810 it. When you're actually having fun, it's real, and it's so hard not 364 00:21:50,810 --> 00:21:54,650 to feel better after that. So that's why I have 365 00:21:54,650 --> 00:21:58,330 the go factor in things that go kids for me, like, me and my 366 00:21:58,330 --> 00:22:02,005 husband, we just it's brought something into our life. We kind of think 367 00:22:02,005 --> 00:22:05,605 how boring was our life beforehand. Like like, we did more 368 00:22:05,605 --> 00:22:09,205 maybe, like, for ourself, but it wasn't fun, essentially. Like, it was 369 00:22:09,365 --> 00:22:13,045 yeah. So It wasn't hearing belly laughs of kids and Yeah. You know, those 370 00:22:13,045 --> 00:22:16,720 moments that you capture and go, oh, it's so amazing. That's it. You know, maybe 371 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,440 you capture those little moments that you that you didn't have them before. It's the 372 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,240 belly laughs. The things that you loved as a kid, you can do again now. 373 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,600 Yeah. Yeah. So, like, definitely a massive more big 374 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,264 bigger element of our life now. Yep. Beautiful. I never lose it. 375 00:22:29,264 --> 00:22:32,945 Yeah. People we you do. And you mentioned it before, we lose the ability to 376 00:22:32,945 --> 00:22:35,825 play a little bit Yeah. Or the mindset to play a little bit until kids 377 00:22:35,825 --> 00:22:39,184 come along. But, yeah, it's sad, isn't it? It's sad. But yeah. We talk about 378 00:22:39,184 --> 00:22:42,960 play based mindfulness all the time. Yeah. And when you're playing, you're not thinking 379 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,840 about anything else. When you're having fun, you're not thinking about anything else, not thinking 380 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,160 about you to do at least, not thinking about it. You just And that's why 381 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,680 sport's so important, and I try and encourage young people to play sport 382 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,175 because when they like it and it's not getting to the 383 00:22:55,175 --> 00:22:58,235 serious side where I where I went when I was playing sport, 384 00:22:59,015 --> 00:23:02,775 you know, you're playing for fun. So you're getting all that well-being benefit and mental 385 00:23:02,775 --> 00:23:06,295 benefits without realizing it. And I we can encourage, like you 386 00:23:06,295 --> 00:23:09,940 do, play without necessarily talking about the 387 00:23:09,940 --> 00:23:13,740 well-being side, it comes naturally. Yeah. So it doesn't have to be explicit 388 00:23:14,020 --> 00:23:17,860 Yep. They said. Yeah. Are you finding because I know we had chat about this 389 00:23:17,860 --> 00:23:21,460 the other day, mate, that, less and less kids are 390 00:23:21,460 --> 00:23:25,154 playing organized sport. And I just I feel that's very 391 00:23:25,154 --> 00:23:28,755 sad because growing up in the country, that was my purpose. That was my identity. 392 00:23:28,755 --> 00:23:31,975 That was my community. And I think they played a huge role in 393 00:23:32,195 --> 00:23:36,034 grafting the person I am today, the good and the bad. Do you see that 394 00:23:36,034 --> 00:23:39,850 now, like, with devices and everything like that, Lauren, that, you 395 00:23:39,850 --> 00:23:43,690 know, community sport and just engagement, you don't have to be the best, but you're 396 00:23:43,690 --> 00:23:47,450 still part of something that it's slipping away? Well, the probably 397 00:23:47,450 --> 00:23:50,409 the main time I saw that was when I was head of sport and a 398 00:23:50,409 --> 00:23:53,875 lot of the year 11 and 12, the older students would choose to study 399 00:23:53,875 --> 00:23:57,635 instead. Mhmm. So I think it's actually driven a lot 400 00:23:57,635 --> 00:24:01,475 from adults, their focus, and where they put their 401 00:24:01,475 --> 00:24:05,235 attention that that the young person learns. Okay. That's where I should put my 402 00:24:05,235 --> 00:24:08,934 attention, and the same with devices. I guess that's like a great method of 403 00:24:09,610 --> 00:24:13,450 distraction for the young person. So if a parent's busy or they 404 00:24:13,450 --> 00:24:17,210 just want their child to feel like they're occupied, give them the device, they're 405 00:24:17,210 --> 00:24:20,970 occupied. If they're playing, sometimes they're gonna want you to play with 406 00:24:20,970 --> 00:24:24,655 them or they need support playing or they need like, they need other people 407 00:24:24,655 --> 00:24:28,335 around them sometimes with organized sport. So there's 408 00:24:28,335 --> 00:24:32,015 another element to the parent. There's another element to the teacher 409 00:24:32,175 --> 00:24:35,775 teacher's life. It's like the the fun play 410 00:24:35,775 --> 00:24:39,620 area element, it does, I think, stem 411 00:24:39,620 --> 00:24:43,220 from adults filtering that down into kids Yep. Because of 412 00:24:43,220 --> 00:24:46,820 devices. In the past, without devices, kids would have figured that out on their 413 00:24:46,820 --> 00:24:50,179 own. But I think now it's a big responsibility for adults 414 00:24:50,179 --> 00:24:53,665 to remind the the child that they can do other 415 00:24:53,665 --> 00:24:57,205 things. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not just the organized sports, 416 00:24:57,345 --> 00:25:00,385 the kicking the footy on the straight. It's the No. I missed that. The court 417 00:25:00,385 --> 00:25:03,665 cricket. It's the Going to the skate park. Yeah. Going to the skate park because, 418 00:25:03,665 --> 00:25:06,120 yeah, when we were young, we didn't have the devices. So you'd go out and 419 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:09,960 entertain yourself, but even if you're not enrolled in organized sport now, they're not going 420 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,600 out and playing that sport in the street. You don't Yeah. I can't I can't 421 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,800 remember last time I I saw a group of kids move a wheelie bin out 422 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,985 of the right because my car was coming down the street. Like put the cricket 423 00:25:18,985 --> 00:25:21,865 sticker up on the back of the bed. Yeah. I can't remember that. And I 424 00:25:21,865 --> 00:25:25,225 wonder also, and I'm shutting off topic here. Like I've been asked before if it's 425 00:25:25,225 --> 00:25:28,845 devices and less kids in organized sport. I wonder if it's because parents 426 00:25:29,945 --> 00:25:33,730 are having kids later in life now and the kids aren't watching their 427 00:25:33,730 --> 00:25:37,570 parents play sport. Super interesting point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That just came 428 00:25:37,570 --> 00:25:40,370 to me as a real Well, that's something I've been really conscious of. I've been 429 00:25:40,530 --> 00:25:44,370 yeah. Yeah. You're you're thinking about Well, I'm just yeah. No. I don't want 430 00:25:44,370 --> 00:25:48,034 to play that. He's gonna be very honest. I don't want to 431 00:25:48,034 --> 00:25:51,794 play sport again because I just I went too hard as a kid. 432 00:25:51,794 --> 00:25:55,155 Yeah. But then I don't want my kids to just think I'm just a dad. 433 00:25:55,155 --> 00:25:57,955 I wanna show them something. Yeah. I don't know. Is that what you're saying? What 434 00:25:57,955 --> 00:26:01,350 you mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, this is why we 435 00:26:01,730 --> 00:26:04,610 wanna get the kids into surfing or whatever we can, because it's something that we 436 00:26:04,610 --> 00:26:08,290 can all enjoy. Like, I like, if it's something the parents enjoy, you're probably gonna 437 00:26:08,290 --> 00:26:12,050 get the kids into it. And, generally, the kids that are playing competitive sport, the 438 00:26:12,050 --> 00:26:14,710 parents did have an interest in that themself. 439 00:26:16,154 --> 00:26:19,914 Perhaps, yes, if parents and adults can start to find the fun 440 00:26:19,914 --> 00:26:23,595 in their life and do sport again or even just enjoy the 441 00:26:23,595 --> 00:26:27,434 benefits of kicking a ball around, that will 442 00:26:27,434 --> 00:26:29,995 rub off on their kids. Yep. I think it's just 443 00:26:31,290 --> 00:26:34,730 social media is super interesting. Like, especially for the 444 00:26:34,730 --> 00:26:38,090 teenagers, have you seen the stuff that's on Instagram? Like, I looked at it 445 00:26:38,170 --> 00:26:41,770 sometimes, since I've been trying to do my business, I've been looking at those, 446 00:26:42,010 --> 00:26:45,765 videos a bit more, and there is incredible stuff that we could never have dreamed 447 00:26:45,765 --> 00:26:49,225 of seeing when we were young. Yep. That is addictive. And 448 00:26:49,605 --> 00:26:53,365 it's designed obviously to keep them keep you viewing and it works. Like, 449 00:26:53,365 --> 00:26:56,345 it's not some of the stuff that we can see around the world now. So 450 00:26:56,710 --> 00:27:00,310 I can see the appeal to it and I just think it's 451 00:27:00,390 --> 00:27:03,190 parents need to take a I'm a parent now, so I feel like I can 452 00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:06,870 say this, but take a bit of control and just get 453 00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:10,535 that ownership back over what your kids can and 454 00:27:10,535 --> 00:27:14,295 can't. Yeah. The balance. Take ownership and get the balance better. Yeah. 455 00:27:14,295 --> 00:27:18,135 Yep. And and we're definitely as a society, we're now more Aware. 456 00:27:18,375 --> 00:27:21,975 Aware Yep. And and focus on. So I think we'll start to get that bounce 457 00:27:21,975 --> 00:27:25,419 back a little bit. I I really do. Yeah. Do you because I reckon it's 458 00:27:25,419 --> 00:27:29,120 easier. Like, it's all laziness. It's so much easier 459 00:27:29,340 --> 00:27:32,220 to give a device or be on your phone. Yeah. And I'll admit I do 460 00:27:32,220 --> 00:27:35,919 it. Yeah. But then I'm like, I'm being so lazy here because 461 00:27:35,980 --> 00:27:39,634 what that's not fair on anyone. Have you ever noticed your it's 462 00:27:39,634 --> 00:27:43,394 harder to talk to your kids after they've been on watching 463 00:27:43,394 --> 00:27:46,995 TV or device. I wake home zombies all the time. That's what I hated. 464 00:27:46,995 --> 00:27:50,595 Yeah. I experienced that and was like, oh, like, that's not a 465 00:27:50,595 --> 00:27:54,240 nice I don't like that he can't relate to me or talk to me 466 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,080 now. He's not answering my questions as quickly or that was a really 467 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,760 clear indicator that it does something to to 468 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,595 them, and it's very hard to get him back on side. So 469 00:28:05,674 --> 00:28:09,275 it's better to just try and avoid it if you can. It is. We've 470 00:28:09,275 --> 00:28:13,115 we've we've put in 2 2 nights a week. We have we have a screen, 471 00:28:13,115 --> 00:28:15,355 the whole family. So even Mel and I don't put the TV on, and we 472 00:28:15,355 --> 00:28:18,395 we try to play games or it was just 2 nights a week. Yeah. And 473 00:28:18,395 --> 00:28:21,960 and sometimes they need that chill out time. They need to decompress, but, 474 00:28:22,020 --> 00:28:24,900 yeah, at least we try to have a couple of nights a week now of 475 00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:28,740 of no screen time. We've had broken TV for, like, a month since then. Yeah. 476 00:28:28,740 --> 00:28:32,280 Obviously. And the the inverted bracket's broken, broken out. 477 00:28:33,460 --> 00:28:36,465 No. But I think you have to be intentional with that. And it's like anything 478 00:28:36,465 --> 00:28:40,305 you do, the kids are watching and learning, particularly the first 7 years, you 479 00:28:40,305 --> 00:28:43,505 have to be intentional with your actions and what you do, and you've gotta practice 480 00:28:43,505 --> 00:28:47,185 what you preach. Yeah. And that's how I feel, parents, it's hard to do, 481 00:28:47,185 --> 00:28:50,880 particularly, you know, you've had a big day working, life's tough. Yep. 482 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,680 It's very easy now just to get the phone out of the device. Whereas I 483 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,880 remember back in the day, my dad would come home, he'd have a massive day, 484 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,460 but I'd be waiting for the footy because I don't wanna kick and be like, 485 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,800 he didn't have an option. Yeah. You know, and he'd have to do it whereas 486 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,635 it's that doesn't That's so true. That doesn't happen. Like you said, they're not on 487 00:29:05,635 --> 00:29:09,154 the street playing footy cricket or netball, soccer or serve, whatever it is. 488 00:29:09,154 --> 00:29:12,434 Yep. But I But it once you set that goal, like you did with the 489 00:29:12,434 --> 00:29:16,140 TV, you actually chose, okay, we're going to allow it, because it's it's 490 00:29:16,140 --> 00:29:19,360 awesome awesome for just a relax relaxation time, 491 00:29:20,220 --> 00:29:23,600 but I'm going to intentionally have it scheduled. So 492 00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:27,740 it's it's like you can apply goals to anything, and 493 00:29:27,740 --> 00:29:30,855 then it's just about sticking to it, and you start a new routine. And then 494 00:29:30,855 --> 00:29:34,695 when you start a new routine, doing that enough, it becomes like your normal thought 495 00:29:34,695 --> 00:29:37,575 pattern, and then it becomes a habit. And then all of a sudden, that's your 496 00:29:37,575 --> 00:29:40,774 belief, and that's just how you run your life. Yep. It fits everything. And it 497 00:29:40,774 --> 00:29:43,575 doesn't take a long time to create those new habits, does it? What? 2 or 498 00:29:43,575 --> 00:29:46,149 3 weeks realistically of doing it regularly for 2 or 3 weeks and then it 499 00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:48,549 becomes part of your makeup. It's like you gotta go through the pain though to 500 00:29:48,549 --> 00:29:52,390 get the result you're after. It applies with everything. Yep. And and maybe 501 00:29:52,390 --> 00:29:56,070 some of these parenting things I need to apply on my to myself or learn 502 00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:59,845 going forward and then you realize you're setting 503 00:29:59,845 --> 00:30:03,605 your kid up. You actually have a lot of control when they're little over the 504 00:30:03,605 --> 00:30:07,285 way that they live their life, or sometimes I feel that they control me. Yeah. 505 00:30:07,285 --> 00:30:10,665 But, like, you flip that, actually, it's like get there, 506 00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:14,630 be responsible as a parent and figure out a way to have the best of 507 00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:17,750 both the balance that you said before. If you don't mind me asking, with think 508 00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:21,049 set go, your perfect, I guess, 509 00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:25,035 audience Mhmm. Or who you would you rather do school age 510 00:30:25,035 --> 00:30:28,875 children, the support staff, or do you wanna get out to adults in corporate play 511 00:30:28,875 --> 00:30:32,635 where but as parents? I will admit that it started with adults. 512 00:30:32,635 --> 00:30:36,475 Yep. Okay. And then it it it started in my head with adults in 513 00:30:36,475 --> 00:30:40,170 my design of it, and then it flipped straight to kids because 514 00:30:40,170 --> 00:30:44,010 that's where my connections were with my network, and I didn't have 515 00:30:44,010 --> 00:30:47,850 any network in the, like, in the 516 00:30:47,850 --> 00:30:51,695 outside of schools. Yep. I didn't think. Mhmm. So, you 517 00:30:51,695 --> 00:30:55,535 know, a 100% is a framework that fits anywhere. Brilliant. It's just that 518 00:30:55,535 --> 00:30:59,135 it started in schools and sport. Yep. Yeah. Cool. Is there any way for 519 00:30:59,135 --> 00:31:02,495 adults, like, just, you know, a person who's 520 00:31:02,495 --> 00:31:06,269 not a teacher, doesn't get to see workshops at school, whatever it might be, can 521 00:31:06,269 --> 00:31:09,570 they access your your framework somehow? 522 00:31:10,110 --> 00:31:13,950 Yeah. Well, I'm at the point where I'm ready to do 523 00:31:13,950 --> 00:31:17,715 the more mentorship and the, would 524 00:31:17,715 --> 00:31:21,235 love to design a course on this and, obviously, I've got the 525 00:31:21,235 --> 00:31:24,674 book. I've I've I've written a book. What what's the book? The book is for 526 00:31:24,674 --> 00:31:28,195 high school students. Have you got a copy here? I do. Ah, here's going. That'd 527 00:31:28,195 --> 00:31:32,035 be awesome. That. Mastering so what so it's called Mastering Your Mind 528 00:31:32,035 --> 00:31:35,809 For Success. Yeah. So this is designed as part of 529 00:31:35,809 --> 00:31:39,250 an 8 book series for high school students from Amber Press is a 530 00:31:39,250 --> 00:31:43,090 publisher and, Alicia from there wanted to put some 531 00:31:43,090 --> 00:31:46,845 books together that students could use for themselves, so it's not, 532 00:31:47,485 --> 00:31:51,325 necessarily delivered from the teacher, it's for this personal student. And, 533 00:31:51,565 --> 00:31:54,605 they needed a mindset book and I had a lot of content and we've designed 534 00:31:54,605 --> 00:31:58,365 it so that in this book, it's like one concept per 535 00:31:58,365 --> 00:32:02,110 page and then the students can write their answers. It's 536 00:32:02,110 --> 00:32:05,710 personal reflection just to kinda keep getting their head in the game 537 00:32:05,710 --> 00:32:08,769 or, change change what they're focusing on. Yep. 538 00:32:09,630 --> 00:32:12,990 But yeah. So that's for students, but then it so relates to adults. 539 00:32:12,990 --> 00:32:16,705 Okay. The adult side of things, I'm hoping to do 540 00:32:16,924 --> 00:32:20,765 more workshops with parents through the sporting side Mhmm. Also through 541 00:32:20,765 --> 00:32:24,605 schools. But then I just love to do just adults help 542 00:32:24,684 --> 00:32:28,160 adults pursue their goals. Yeah. I don't know how that will work out, but 543 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,600 But you gotta you gotta try. Do you find, because over the years, I've had 544 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,280 a lot of schools and different organizations book me to do parent 545 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,960 sessions. Okay. Cool. And they say, oh, they've got 80 to a100 546 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,505 people register, and I've rocked up to a couple of them, and there's 547 00:32:42,505 --> 00:32:46,284 2 in the room, one that was 4, and you're 548 00:32:46,825 --> 00:32:50,345 like like, you can't run a session with that many, and it it like, that 549 00:32:50,345 --> 00:32:54,160 was so hard, so awkward, and I was, like, I'm 550 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,680 still getting paid, but I'm not having an impact. Do you find that to try 551 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,460 and get these that I can't get the right formula of parent sessions because 552 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,120 they just don't come, that perceived value and then paid. I don't know if you've 553 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,895 had that similar experience. Well, I haven't really gone there yet, but I understand that 554 00:33:08,895 --> 00:33:12,575 because parents also don't like to be told what to do. Like, adults, you know, 555 00:33:12,575 --> 00:33:16,095 we we know our kids, we know what we think is right is 556 00:33:16,095 --> 00:33:19,715 right, and, if they're getting the education 557 00:33:19,935 --> 00:33:23,700 through you at school or wherever it was, I think 558 00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:27,380 maybe parents think too busy for that. But what they don't understand is the 559 00:33:27,380 --> 00:33:31,140 holistic approach to helping the well-being of the student comes from everywhere. Yeah. 560 00:33:31,140 --> 00:33:34,760 And it's not that we're telling adults what they should do. It's like 561 00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:39,055 we're telling adults how they can help kids, their their own kid. 562 00:33:39,055 --> 00:33:42,035 And and I think that education 563 00:33:42,735 --> 00:33:46,415 through a parent workshop is great because they can meet other parents that might 564 00:33:46,415 --> 00:33:50,040 be dealing with the same thing, but it really probably just comes down to 565 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,640 time. I mean, probably getting parents to teach parent teacher interviews is hard 566 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,320 enough. It's just another thing. You know? Yep. I agree. And I kinda 567 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,000 think Well, they wanna do it on mine, and I'm not I'm I'm not doing 568 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,745 that anymore. Yeah. And you're right. You touched on something giving up your time as 569 00:34:03,745 --> 00:34:07,345 an adult, especially when you've got kids. His time is super precious. That free time 570 00:34:07,345 --> 00:34:11,105 is incredibly precious. And I think the adults gotta be in a mindset 571 00:34:11,105 --> 00:34:14,385 of, I want to learn something new and I'm gonna go and do a short 572 00:34:14,385 --> 00:34:17,410 course in that, or I'm gonna, I think it's just a random I got something 573 00:34:17,410 --> 00:34:20,790 from school. Yeah. I'll go along that because time is so bloody precious, but 574 00:34:21,330 --> 00:34:24,050 they need to flip the mindset and change the mindset because you never know if 575 00:34:24,050 --> 00:34:27,010 you take one thing from that session. Mhmm. So what you can put into your 576 00:34:27,010 --> 00:34:29,890 into your life, it's a win. Right? And chances are you're gonna take one thing. 577 00:34:29,890 --> 00:34:32,657 If you just rock up and show up, you'll take one thing from it, and 578 00:34:32,657 --> 00:34:35,867 you'll get to put in your life. But it's getting there in the first place. 579 00:34:35,867 --> 00:34:39,291 And I was wondering, I was gonna Man. Yeah. No. I was really there. Yeah. 580 00:34:39,291 --> 00:34:42,501 Some of the the basketball workshops I've been doing, they wanted a parent session, so 581 00:34:42,501 --> 00:34:46,139 they can get the parent like, help every help the athlete from all angles. Yep. 582 00:34:46,219 --> 00:34:49,900 But I guess it's like, is that enough of a carrot? I don't 583 00:34:49,900 --> 00:34:53,500 know. Yeah. I reckon you'll have a much more chance of getting parents there through 584 00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:56,940 the sport network than the school network unfortunately. That you're not alone. Don't take it 585 00:34:56,940 --> 00:35:00,059 personally. No. I don't. I've just done it. We tried numerous times Yeah. When we 586 00:35:00,059 --> 00:35:02,475 were work when I was working at schools to get parent sessions off the ground, 587 00:35:02,475 --> 00:35:04,635 and there'd be 6 in the room. Yeah. You know what I mean? It it 588 00:35:04,715 --> 00:35:07,995 it's it's been incredibly tough. That is when shop, but I haven't been through this 589 00:35:07,995 --> 00:35:11,835 sport in March. Perhaps with the teach with the schools, again, it's 590 00:35:11,835 --> 00:35:15,515 like, what for? So if there's a camp coming up, you're probably gonna get more 591 00:35:15,515 --> 00:35:18,850 teachers. If there's a sporting event that is a bit unique, you're probably gonna get, 592 00:35:18,850 --> 00:35:22,690 sorry, more parents. It's like, this is why Mindset Education for goal 593 00:35:22,690 --> 00:35:26,450 pursuit is, like, it gives a purpose for the content, which I think a 594 00:35:26,450 --> 00:35:29,655 lot more people might grasp onto because they can relate it to 595 00:35:30,055 --> 00:35:33,815 specific things. So perhaps if it's not relevant to anything that they 596 00:35:33,815 --> 00:35:37,175 can think is important to them, they might not see the 597 00:35:37,175 --> 00:35:40,775 value. Yeah. That's a good way of putting it. Yeah. I think about 598 00:35:40,775 --> 00:35:44,530 that. Lauren, everything you've done so far, what are you 599 00:35:44,530 --> 00:35:48,050 most proud of? From setting, obviously, business up 600 00:35:48,050 --> 00:35:51,730 and, you know, working with young kids and, you 601 00:35:51,730 --> 00:35:55,170 know, trying something that's never been done before. Because what you've set up is unique. 602 00:35:55,170 --> 00:35:58,050 No one's doing the world. What are you most proud of when you sit here 603 00:35:58,050 --> 00:36:01,835 today? Probably two things. 1 604 00:36:01,835 --> 00:36:05,595 is having a big goal like this, an 605 00:36:05,595 --> 00:36:09,295 ambitious goal, and actually executing it 606 00:36:09,755 --> 00:36:13,450 in a way that I'm managing to continue to do, because, 607 00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:17,430 you know, often, like, our goals, we might commit for a while, but then 608 00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:21,190 it's like, okay, what's next? I'm, like, so motivated. I'm still 609 00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:24,810 going. I'm, like, so it feels like I'm making 610 00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:28,865 a difference as people say. And, so probably 611 00:36:28,865 --> 00:36:32,545 one thing is just sticking at something that I'm really passionate about. And the 612 00:36:32,545 --> 00:36:36,305 second was doing it all while I had little babies. Mhmm. A lot of my 613 00:36:36,305 --> 00:36:39,905 mother's group friends, for example, say, how did you do that? Like, I can't even 614 00:36:39,905 --> 00:36:43,640 think. And my brain just went into this is 2nd baby, because first 615 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,460 baby, I was just overwhelmed, like, what the hell has just happened to my life? 616 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,440 2nd baby, I was like, alright. You gotta figure it out. Here's it on maternity 617 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,900 leave. Let's get something to do when I have downtime, 618 00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:58,895 something for myself that I've actually I know that what 619 00:36:58,895 --> 00:37:02,095 I have to do. Because often with the babies, you have downtime and then you're 620 00:37:02,095 --> 00:37:05,695 like, oh, what, you know, what am I gonna do now? I've gotta get this 621 00:37:05,695 --> 00:37:09,369 washing done, that washing done. You know, you you give yourself chores, but I just 622 00:37:09,369 --> 00:37:12,810 said to myself, the next 20 minutes I get, I'm going to figure out how 623 00:37:12,810 --> 00:37:16,490 I could do a workshop on, persistence. So 624 00:37:16,490 --> 00:37:19,710 I gave myself little tasks for myself to do 625 00:37:20,250 --> 00:37:23,875 and it actually made me I feel it makes me a 626 00:37:23,875 --> 00:37:27,714 better parent because I'm fulfilling my own cup as they say. Mhmm. And, 627 00:37:28,515 --> 00:37:32,275 that I'm then more present because I've feel like I've ticked some boxes in my 628 00:37:32,275 --> 00:37:36,035 own life. What an awesome lesson though. Oh, it's great. A lot of minutes. Yeah. 629 00:37:36,035 --> 00:37:39,730 Like 20 minutes. When I've got 20 minutes spare, I'm gonna think about how I 630 00:37:39,730 --> 00:37:42,849 can do a workshop on this topic in 20 minutes. Can you imagine how quick 631 00:37:42,849 --> 00:37:46,609 20 minutes would go, dream scrolling? But you know how good it is 632 00:37:46,609 --> 00:37:49,410 when you give yourself a short time frame. It's something I talk about in the 633 00:37:49,410 --> 00:37:53,155 book as well. It's like, you've got your deadline here, bring it back, make it 634 00:37:53,155 --> 00:37:56,675 shorter, you'll smash it out and then you've got a bit of time left over 635 00:37:56,675 --> 00:38:00,435 if you need it Yeah. Before when you wanted to get it done initially. So 636 00:38:00,435 --> 00:38:04,195 it's like when you haven't got much time, you have to be succinct and 637 00:38:04,195 --> 00:38:07,930 just really specific and then you just don't fluff 638 00:38:07,930 --> 00:38:11,130 around as much. No. And 20 minutes here, 20 minutes there. It it builds up. 639 00:38:11,130 --> 00:38:14,410 It builds. It builds right. So those people sitting at a good time. Good 20 640 00:38:14,410 --> 00:38:17,450 minutes too. Yeah. You know, a good 20 minutes is better than a crap hour. 641 00:38:17,450 --> 00:38:20,910 Yeah. You know, when you're actually just fully focused and you're on. Yep. 642 00:38:21,035 --> 00:38:24,475 It does it's a small time. It I I love that. It just feels so 643 00:38:24,475 --> 00:38:27,615 good. And, like, it just motivates you, and you feel like, 644 00:38:28,875 --> 00:38:31,915 like I said, you ticked the box off and Yeah. You just it's like You're 645 00:38:31,915 --> 00:38:34,329 proud of yourself. Right? Yeah. Like, at the end of the day end end of 646 00:38:34,329 --> 00:38:36,730 the day, you get out and you're like, I got the 20 minutes in. I've 647 00:38:36,730 --> 00:38:40,430 planned that as as opposed to at the end of the day going shit. 648 00:38:40,569 --> 00:38:43,690 Yeah. I was supposed to that today and you get done and yourself and you 649 00:38:43,690 --> 00:38:46,890 start that that poor me or I'm not good enough. I didn't do that. Yeah. 650 00:38:46,890 --> 00:38:50,565 You know, the way we talk ourselves. Self talk. Yeah. That's probably another thing. It's 651 00:38:50,565 --> 00:38:54,405 like catching yourself with the self talk, that's not helping you at all. 652 00:38:54,405 --> 00:38:57,125 So it's like flip it, you didn't do it, but it doesn't matter. What can 653 00:38:57,125 --> 00:39:00,325 you do now? Like, straight away. Like, the better you get at that, the more 654 00:39:00,325 --> 00:39:04,070 you'll achieve things and pursue things. Great response. So true. Love 655 00:39:04,070 --> 00:39:07,190 that. And for anyone out there, that's the best way to feel proud about yourself 656 00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:10,870 is doing things for yourself. And it's not allocating huge 657 00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:14,710 amounts of time. It's doing little things regularly that add up. Yeah. Because then 658 00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:17,935 you're the best version of yourself. You know, and you would all the other tasks 659 00:39:17,935 --> 00:39:21,375 has been a mom or a a parent that is pretty tough. You know, that 660 00:39:21,375 --> 00:39:25,135 poo y nappy or whatever. Oh. Yeah. Persistence workshop done. And like, how 661 00:39:25,135 --> 00:39:28,895 persistent nappy. Oh, that's a lovely poo. You know, like a nature. You can 662 00:39:28,895 --> 00:39:31,380 do it. Yeah. Like, thanks for bringing that 663 00:39:32,660 --> 00:39:36,339 up. Very real. Oh, no. It is. It makes everything better. So, Lauren, 664 00:39:36,339 --> 00:39:40,099 people listening along here. Where's the best way to reach out and maybe inquire 665 00:39:40,099 --> 00:39:43,940 about a book or workshops or just read more? So probably my 666 00:39:43,940 --> 00:39:46,785 website, thinkset www. Thinksetgo.com.au 667 00:39:48,765 --> 00:39:52,445 or Instagram. Not I haven't done as much on that. So I'm 668 00:39:52,445 --> 00:39:56,145 trying to build people coming onto that. I think it's just thinksetgo. 669 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,600 Maybe Facebook is think, set, go education. K. Cool. Yeah. Awesome. We'll 670 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,360 have links, show note. Episode 344, so you can 671 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,960 go and reach out and just type LinkedIn LinkedIn if anyone's on that. I only 672 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,420 just started that since doing the business and that's awesome way to connect. So, 673 00:40:12,795 --> 00:40:15,675 yeah. Well done. Well done, Kate. You should really proud of yourself. Yeah. Thank you. 674 00:40:15,675 --> 00:40:19,515 Honestly, it's a it's a awesome concept. It's definitely needed. Yeah. And 675 00:40:19,515 --> 00:40:22,711 hopefully it gets some traction and we'll definitely help that out. But, yeah, well done. 676 00:40:22,791 --> 00:40:26,331 Thanks, man. Thanks for hanging on. Take care. Thank you for having me. Thanks.