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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to another exciting episode of

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<v Speaker 1>The Bible guys Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Today we're going to be in Ezra chapter three, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is where the comeback begins.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the altar is going to be be rebuilt.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. Well, I think this is amazing because the

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<v Speaker 2>whole city is standing in ruins. But they don't build

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<v Speaker 2>the walls first, they build the altar first. Oh that's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good, pretty great.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna start with that, but before we do, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a segment because today's Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I was just sitting here going, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know where you're going with this. I do know

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<v Speaker 2>where you're going. It's time for everybody's favorite segment. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean for everybody that listens to the Bible Guys

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<v Speaker 2>more than just a week or two. Yes, this is

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<v Speaker 2>their favorite segment. What made Chris mad this week?

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<v Speaker 3>This week? Well, I have one, Jeff, And you know

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<v Speaker 3>what makes.

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<v Speaker 2>Me moan shock shock? This is my shock face.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's what I always do.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know what makes me mad? And actually it

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<v Speaker 1>really truly gets me mad.

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<v Speaker 3>Is top golf?

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<v Speaker 2>Really? Yes, you don't like top golf. I love top golf, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but top golf makes you mad.

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<v Speaker 3>Very much, so okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know why no, Because they impose upon everybody

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<v Speaker 1>short rubber teas, and they don't give you an option

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<v Speaker 1>to go tall. Right, even though that much of the

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<v Speaker 1>golf community, and the reason why I know it's much

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<v Speaker 1>is because it may be mad so much. We took

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<v Speaker 1>how many people there are fifty, yeah, fifty our staff.

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<v Speaker 1>I walked around and asked everybody about if they golf

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<v Speaker 1>regularly and whether or not they hate the rubber teas.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would say at least half of just our

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<v Speaker 1>group said they can't stand these short rubber tees because

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<v Speaker 1>there's different swings in golf, and so some do tee

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<v Speaker 1>it up very very low, and to be honest, they

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<v Speaker 1>have the better swings, right, so they get down low

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<v Speaker 1>and they lift it everything else. And and you know

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<v Speaker 1>some people can go to top golf and crank it

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<v Speaker 1>over the net even right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what they lowered him, you know that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>They used to be taller and then they lowered.

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<v Speaker 1>Him okay, well, then I even hate it more than

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<v Speaker 1>ye because people are putting them over the build a

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<v Speaker 1>taller net.

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<v Speaker 3>How tall dude. All I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Is, anyways, I this is your rage.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this is my rage because I can, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't hit My swing just won't allow it. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, the net is only what two hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>And fifty yards away.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't adjust, No, cannot adjust.

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot adjust. And so Chad, Chad says to the

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<v Speaker 1>whole staff. Oh, when Chris hits a ball, he swings

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<v Speaker 1>out of his shoes and he tells everybody, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>I can hit it. I can hit a drive three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yards if I you know, if I hit on

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<v Speaker 1>a good, good swing, and uh.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have hit a ball three hundred yards.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure of right, So so I could do that, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the top golf, the net is only like

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and something yards away, and I can't hit

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<v Speaker 1>it on a fly because my swing won't all out because.

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<v Speaker 3>I I just I just I can't do it. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm just thinking to myself, ge, whiz, can't you

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<v Speaker 3>just can't you just have it? It's not gonna be hard.

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<v Speaker 3>But according to you, they lowered it on purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think some people hit that that back netting?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I saw Connor Meed do it. Yeah yeah, Connor

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<v Speaker 3>me literally put on there.

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<v Speaker 2>See anybody do it fourteen times?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh no, but I'm sure Connor could do it. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you did it because you swing alone, apparently.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you have a little swing. Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a good golfer. I'm not, but I can

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<v Speaker 2>crush that ball. Yeah yeah, yeah. So uh we played,

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot like eight six games. Yeah, and I hit

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<v Speaker 2>the back net in the air on the fly, on

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<v Speaker 2>the fly.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Times I hit it. I hit the back net twenty

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<v Speaker 2>something times. That's the only way I was getting any

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<v Speaker 2>points because I can't. I can't. I don't have any accuracy.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't actually hit any of those circles out there.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just got to crush it. You try to

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<v Speaker 2>get it that way. And so I hit the back

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<v Speaker 2>net twenty something times, but I hopped it towards the enda,

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<v Speaker 2>starting to run out of gas. But that at the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning my first three rounds, I hit the net like

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<v Speaker 2>every other swing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well my swing will not allow it because I

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<v Speaker 1>I just it it up so high, so I can't

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<v Speaker 1>use any other golf teas besides the extra long ones.

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<v Speaker 2>So if what if? What if you moved your grip

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<v Speaker 2>further back on the list, what if us the longer

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<v Speaker 2>try that game all day long.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a whole different ballgame, right, that's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>different game to say, change your swing, right, change your

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<v Speaker 1>swing is is definitely an option.

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<v Speaker 3>But currently, I so it makes you mad, dude, It

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<v Speaker 3>outrages me furious, because are you ever going to go back?

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<v Speaker 3>I love golf. Oh yeah, I'll go back all the

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<v Speaker 3>time because it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wish, I wish that I somehow was able

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<v Speaker 1>to lift it up by probably double.

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<v Speaker 2>So have you ever seen the guy who bring is

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<v Speaker 2>that little thing that sits inside of it? On YouTube? No,

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<v Speaker 2>he has he has a little extender and they'll come

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<v Speaker 2>and take it from him. But while he's got it

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<v Speaker 2>and he's putting it over the fence.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I didn't know they've seen it. Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's got he's got a little thing that sits

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<v Speaker 2>inside the I would love that. Yeah. Well, the problem

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<v Speaker 2>is if he accidentally hits it, he knocks it way

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<v Speaker 2>out on the thing too, right, that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I could, I could probably, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a pretty good height. Could I hit it over

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<v Speaker 1>the net with.

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<v Speaker 2>The right teeth with an extension?

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty high?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe, So that's a matt You could just look the

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<v Speaker 2>mat up, pull that out, stick your own in.

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<v Speaker 3>What you mean, like an actual tea?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, just just get a rubber one like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's tall.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have that much intentionality beyond you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>for golf, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, talking about having intentionality, Oh yeah, Ezra had some intentionality.

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<v Speaker 2>Was intentional about about writing about rubble bulls? Intentionality?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Of taking the people back to Jerusalem?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually that started off as a good transition and then

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<v Speaker 1>ended up being really.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, really horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's really funny.

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<v Speaker 2>So, uh well you are in Ezra chapter three. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>that's so good, Ezra chapter three. And thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>sharing your outrage on behalf of holl So because it's

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<v Speaker 2>never just for you. I'm mad for all the other

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<v Speaker 2>people who are mad about the fact.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't It wasn't just me, it was the other

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<v Speaker 1>thirty people in our staff. I was outraged.

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<v Speaker 2>Four just be clear, I didn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't say I cared about you caring. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I cared about the other people.

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<v Speaker 2>The other people are a bunch of whiners too.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, you just call it half our.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, anyways, Uh, here's what is that you're right now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in trouble. I'm not gonna be able to show

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<v Speaker 2>my face in the office for a week.

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<v Speaker 3>There it is there, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>There, he is there, he is Okay. So in Ezra

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<v Speaker 2>chapter three, it said, in early autumn, when the Israelites

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<v Speaker 2>had settled in their towns, all the people ascended, ascended

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<v Speaker 2>assembled there you go, assembled in Jerusalem with the unified purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that. Then Jesua son of Jehosah Jehosah daht

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<v Speaker 2>Great joined his fellow priests, and Zerubeble son of shell

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<v Speaker 2>Shiel t l with his family in rebuilding the altar

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<v Speaker 2>of the God of Israel. Okay, So Zerobebel joined his

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<v Speaker 2>family members in rebuilding the altar. Let's just because I

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<v Speaker 2>stumbled through a lot of names there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've always pronounced it Zerubble. Okay, So, but I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it's just yeah, long you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like er you say zerubble I say zerubebl

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<v Speaker 2>tomato tomato. Okay. Anyways, it says they wanted the sacrifice

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<v Speaker 2>burnt offerings on it, as instructed in the Law of Moses,

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<v Speaker 2>the Man of God. Even though the people are afraid

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<v Speaker 2>of the local residence. They rebuilt the altar at its

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<v Speaker 2>old Then they began to sacrifice burnt offerings on the

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<v Speaker 2>altar to the Lord. Each morning and evening they celebrated

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<v Speaker 2>the Festival of Shelters as prescribed in the law, sacrificing

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<v Speaker 2>the number of burnt offerings specified for each day of

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<v Speaker 2>the festival. They also offered the regular burnt offerings and

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<v Speaker 2>annual festivals as prescribed by the Lord. The people also

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<v Speaker 2>gave voluntary offerings to the Lord. Fifteen days before the

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<v Speaker 2>Festival Shelters began, the priests began to sacrifice burnt offerings

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<v Speaker 2>to the Lord. This was even before they'd started to

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<v Speaker 2>lay the foundational Lord's temple. Then the people hired masons

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<v Speaker 2>and carpenters and bought cedar logs from the people of

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<v Speaker 2>Tire and Sidon, paying them with food, wine, and olive oil.

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<v Speaker 2>The logs were brought down from the Lebanon Mountains and

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<v Speaker 2>floated along the coast of the Mediterranean Sea to Joppa,

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<v Speaker 2>for King Cyrus had given permission for this. The construction

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<v Speaker 2>of the Temple of God began in mid spring during

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<v Speaker 2>the second year after they arrived in Jerusalem. The workforce

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<v Speaker 2>was made up of everyone who had returned from exile,

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<v Speaker 2>including Zerubabyle son of shielt L, Jeshua son of Jehozadakh

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<v Speaker 2>and his fellow priests, and all the Levites. The Levites

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<v Speaker 2>who were twenty years old or older were put in

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<v Speaker 2>charge of rebuilding Lord's Temple. The workers at the Temple

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<v Speaker 2>of God were supervised by Jeshua with his sons and relatives,

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<v Speaker 2>and Kadmiel and his sons that all descendants of Oodevaiah.

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<v Speaker 2>They were how do you usually say that name?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>They were helped in this task by the levites of

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<v Speaker 2>the family of Henna Dad. When the builders completed the

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<v Speaker 2>foundation of the Lord's Temple, the priests put on their

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<v Speaker 2>robes and took their places to blow their trumpets, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Levites and descendants of Asaf clashed their symbols to

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<v Speaker 2>praise the Lord. Just as King David had prescribed, with

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<v Speaker 2>praise and thanks, they sang this song to the Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>He is so good, his faithful love for Israel endures forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Then all the people gave a great shout, praising the

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<v Speaker 2>Lord because of the foundation of Lord's Temple had been laid.

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<v Speaker 2>But many of the older priests, levites, and other leaders

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<v Speaker 2>who had seen the first temple wept aloud when they

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<v Speaker 2>saw their new temples foundation. The others, however, were shouting

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<v Speaker 2>for joy. The joyful shouting and weeping mingled together in

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<v Speaker 2>a loud noise that could be heard far in the distance. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they were holding anything back, were they?

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<v Speaker 3>No, they weren't.

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<v Speaker 1>And first of all, let's let's go back to the

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<v Speaker 1>the whole shouting. But when it says the altar was rebuilt,

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<v Speaker 1>I love how you noticed that even before they laid

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<v Speaker 1>the foundation, even before they started building, even before they

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<v Speaker 1>rebuilt the altar right where the old one was right,

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<v Speaker 1>and which means that there had to have been older

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<v Speaker 1>people perhaps that were there right, because it does say

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<v Speaker 1>at the end, it says, but the older priest Levites

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<v Speaker 1>and the other leaders who had seen the first Temple

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<v Speaker 1>wept aloud right because they saw the new temples foundation,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that there were people who remembered exactly how

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<v Speaker 1>the old Temple used to be, right, right, And so anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>all that to say, I just think it's amazing that

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<v Speaker 1>that's the very first thing that they did. And can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine just the joy of being able to celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>the festival of shelters as prescribed in the law, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on that space, just the absolute joy of being back

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<v Speaker 1>there in Jerusalem would probably be something that you and

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<v Speaker 1>I could look, a joy that we would probably never

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Well, you know, God doesn't promise to give favor

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<v Speaker 2>to people who ignore him. So they had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things they needed to do. But the last time

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<v Speaker 2>they were in Jusalem, they were pretty strong. They had

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<v Speaker 2>held off the Egyptians, they'd held off the Assyrians, right,

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<v Speaker 2>they were pretty strong. But they weren't making God their priority.

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't giving him his rightful attention. They weren't worshiping him,

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<v Speaker 2>and they lost. Even though they were strong. Now they're

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<v Speaker 2>few and they're weak. The walls of their city are

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<v Speaker 2>God give them favor and protect them. Right, And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to say that's not a terrible place to be

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<v Speaker 2>when you realize the only hope you have is God,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a pretty good place when you think you also

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<v Speaker 2>have other things to help God out. I think you're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of in danger there. But in this situation, and

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<v Speaker 2>then it's the power of worship, right, The power of

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<v Speaker 2>worship transforms them, certainly puts their dependency on God. And

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<v Speaker 2>God honors that. He respects that to the point that

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<v Speaker 2>he names a whole bunch of people that aren't mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>at any other time in the Bible. But Guy's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give them special honorable mention. Where here

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<v Speaker 2>we are now twenty five hundred years later, trying to

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<v Speaker 2>sound out these guys' names. And while to us it

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<v Speaker 2>feels a little weird, God gives honor to whom honor

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<v Speaker 2>is due. Also in the situation, these men, they led

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<v Speaker 2>the people to worship God first, right, Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I think that gets God's attention. That's what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to say. God named them by name because they got

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<v Speaker 2>God's attention. There's nothing else special about them. It doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't say that they were particularly rich, It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>say that they were super powerful. It just says that

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<v Speaker 2>they grabbed their trumpets, they led the people. They began

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<v Speaker 2>laying the foundation to build this temple, to build the altar.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't build the temple just to build the altars

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<v Speaker 2>so that the people could worship, and God goes. Those

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<v Speaker 2>people got my attention. You want to get the attention

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<v Speaker 2>to God. It's not going to be in all the

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<v Speaker 2>other performative things you do. It's going to be in

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<v Speaker 2>your posture of worship.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So the foundation that they laid, the New Temples foundation,

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<v Speaker 1>was considerably smaller than.

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<v Speaker 3>The other one. Yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wonder, I wonder if you know it doesn't say,

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<v Speaker 1>but it says many of the older priestly vice and

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<v Speaker 1>other leaders who've seen the first Temple wept allow when

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<v Speaker 1>they saw the New Temples foundation. The others, however, were

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<v Speaker 1>shouting for joy. So it indicates that the weeping was

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<v Speaker 1>not joy.

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<v Speaker 3>Does that makes sense?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that's true, right, because because the uh because otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>because it says the others however, right, So it seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be in contrast, So the weeping could have been

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<v Speaker 1>because it was smaller.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they and they knew the glory. So Solomon's Temple

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<v Speaker 2>was you know, both temples had cedar from Lebanon, but

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<v Speaker 2>Solomon's was covered in gold and silver and was so grand.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was in the middle of this great jewel

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<v Speaker 2>of a city, the great walls, the prosperity of Jerusalem,

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<v Speaker 2>all that kind of stuff. And so these old guys

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<v Speaker 2>remembered how great that was, you know what. And now

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<v Speaker 2>they're looking at this new foundation, it's not even built yet,

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<v Speaker 2>the temple. They're looking at this a new place, sitting

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<v Speaker 2>among ruins. Right, I was just going to say, points,

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<v Speaker 2>so their sin is what brought him to that point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was just gonna say the same thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>almost recant what I said. It wasn't because it was smaller,

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<v Speaker 1>although it could have been.

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<v Speaker 2>Possibly, it's less. It's less than it's worse.

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<v Speaker 1>It's less than it could have been. What you just said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so sad. The story of the temple is

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<v Speaker 1>so sad. The story of the people is so sad.

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<v Speaker 1>The story of them having to learn the hard way

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<v Speaker 1>is so sad. Right, all of the captivity, all of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the glory of what was versus what is

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<v Speaker 1>no more. It's just it's just how did it come

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<v Speaker 1>to this?

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<v Speaker 3>That kind of thing. So yeah, yeah, so it's probably

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<v Speaker 3>all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you have to remember that these guys are in

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<v Speaker 2>their mid to late eighties, right, right, that can remember

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<v Speaker 2>that everybody else is thrilled, right, everybody else. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have to ruin everybody else's party, right. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the best that they know at the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing the best they can to put God first

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<v Speaker 2>and honor God. So I'm not saying boo on these

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<v Speaker 2>old men, but that was a previous time and now

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<v Speaker 2>they're just going to take some work they do. Drewsom

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<v Speaker 2>does get rebuilt and is pretty great eventually, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of hard work because of our own choices.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we have a ton of hard work, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not as glorious as it used to be, but we

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<v Speaker 2>can rebuild this thing and then eventually, you know, Harritt's

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<v Speaker 2>Temple's pretty pretty phenomenal. But between here and there, it's

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<v Speaker 2>several hundred years and so we've got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>So in two thousand and I don't know what it

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<v Speaker 1>was two thousand and two something like that. I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was pretty connected to a guy that you may.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, Louis Iglio.

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<v Speaker 2>You know him.

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<v Speaker 1>So Louis had this thing called One Day and it

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<v Speaker 1>was in Bells, Texas. And what he did was he

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<v Speaker 1>decided to build a quite literally a million dollar stage

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the field somewhere on this guy's

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<v Speaker 1>thousand college students to drive down to Bell's, Texas to

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<v Speaker 3>Any called it one Day.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't quite hit the hundred thousand, but there were

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<v Speaker 1>tens of thousands of people right and did every time

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<v Speaker 1>he invited us on stage to prank and so and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like I'm on.

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<v Speaker 3>Stage and I'm seeing this ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>Of of of of of college students. It was really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, here's here's what he did. He read from

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<v Speaker 1>Ezra chapter one. He read this passage and it sticks

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<v Speaker 1>out in my mind. And so he says, he says,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me as Rich chapter three, excuse me. But he says,

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<v Speaker 1>all the people gave a great shot praising the Lord

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<v Speaker 1>because the foundation of the temple's Lord has been made,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, others wept, others were joyful. However, the shot,

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<v Speaker 1>the joyful shot of weeping, mingled together with a loud

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<v Speaker 1>noise I could be heard great in the distance. So

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<v Speaker 1>he said, wherever you're at in your life, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>cry oud to God, and we're going to make a

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<v Speaker 1>big crowd to God.

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<v Speaker 3>Ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you have never heard a shot like this. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you, It'll stick out my mind probably until the

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<v Speaker 1>day I day, unless I lose my marbles. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember this moment. Everybody shouts just forever, and there's so

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<v Speaker 1>extreme and you know, there's over the top.

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<v Speaker 3>It just didn't end right. It's like it's almost like.

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<v Speaker 1>A when you take a breath and you sort of

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<v Speaker 1>overlap on the choir and you're you're, you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're having to like stagger just because we want we

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<v Speaker 3>It went on for like I bet you it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a five minute shout.

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<v Speaker 3>Five minutes. Can you even imagine tens of thousands of people.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, at the end of this great story, he

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<v Speaker 1>brought it to a conclusion and said that there are

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<v Speaker 1>people in the audience.

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<v Speaker 3>There are people in the crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>Who they're absolutely in the worst place of their lives,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's people who are in the best place

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<v Speaker 1>of their lives. And there's everybody in between. And all

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<v Speaker 1>of our emotions toward God, all of our yearnings, all

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<v Speaker 1>of our desires, he say, God knows every single one.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, the shouts of joy are mixed with

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<v Speaker 1>the shouts of weeping. And he said in the shout

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<v Speaker 1>could be heard a great distance away. That was his

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<v Speaker 1>big thing, he said, let us let him in the

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<v Speaker 1>next field. You know, that kind of thing, he said.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, but he says, but God looks down and

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<v Speaker 1>sees every single story.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm telling you what an impression it made on me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great picture, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you know, I think about it. The young men

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<v Speaker 2>are cheering and celebrating. Yeah, the old men are grieving.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The old men are aware that it was their generation

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<v Speaker 2>and their parents' generation that brought all this on them.

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<v Speaker 3>Consequence.

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<v Speaker 2>Consequence. Yeah, the young men they didn't experience that. All

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<v Speaker 2>they knew was captivity. And now they're free to worship

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<v Speaker 2>their God and rebuild. And so they see opportunity. And

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<v Speaker 2>you can look back at what I don't see as

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<v Speaker 2>the young men blaming the old.

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<v Speaker 3>Men at all, certainty.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's the thing that happens in our nation. We

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<v Speaker 2>blame the previous generations, look at all the mistakes that

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<v Speaker 2>were made, as opposed to say, hey, we're here, now,

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<v Speaker 2>what do we do from here on out? And they

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<v Speaker 2>grabbed hold of Abraham Lincoln said, I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>Abraham Lincoln. I just read this quote. I was reading

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<v Speaker 2>through a bunch of famous quotes from famous Americans.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it for score in seven years ago?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, not that one. It was. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was Lincoln who said, we can complain that rose bushes

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<v Speaker 2>have thorns, or we can rejoice that thorn bushes have roses.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>And so these old men are grieving over their mistakes

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<v Speaker 2>and the generation before them their mistakes, and they're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>it and there's a repentance. I think this is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a tear in their eye like Daniel's prayer, tear

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<v Speaker 2>in his eye. Right, God, what we did is wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Only your mercy brings us back. That weeping can also

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<v Speaker 2>be a mix of my own grief and my joy

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<v Speaker 2>that the Lord extended mercy right, it can be that.

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<v Speaker 2>But the young men are not blaming the old man.

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<v Speaker 2>The young men are celebrating, saying, look at we're back

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<v Speaker 2>and they're together on this, and so we're gonna build

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<v Speaker 2>It was twenty years old and older are put in charge, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And so these guys see opportunity and they're gonna jump in.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna put their backs to the work. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do the heavy lifting. They're gonna and they're gonna put

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<v Speaker 2>God first before they build their homes, before they build

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<v Speaker 2>their city, before they do all those other things. And

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it's and their song was he is

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<v Speaker 2>so good and his faithful love for Israel endures forever.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's those lyrics that cause both the young men

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<v Speaker 2>to cheer and the old men to cry. Right, same words,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're good words. Yeah, And so it's appropriate when

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<v Speaker 2>we look at the rubble of our life, if that's

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<v Speaker 2>where we're sitting right now, and go, I did this,

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<v Speaker 2>But God is so good right right, and his faithful

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<v Speaker 2>love indoors there's some work to do. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>do the work that if you're sitting where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for me and for you, we came from rough places sure.

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<v Speaker 2>You know our origins are pretty rough. Yeah, and we

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<v Speaker 2>could have blamed them and stayed right there. You could

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<v Speaker 2>have stayed in Danstown and been that guy just blame

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<v Speaker 2>your situation on the fact that you had a rough upbringing,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, me with abuse. I could have decided

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<v Speaker 2>to go down that same path and blame it.

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<v Speaker 3>Or I bet you I could throw a football over

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<v Speaker 3>that mountain.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm telling you, if I can go back, we

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<v Speaker 1>were one state coach, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Put me in yeah and streaming. We could have been

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to rising up and saying, okay, we're standing

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<v Speaker 2>in some brobo, We've got some work to do.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>So the narcissist says, everybody did this to me, and

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunists goes, okay, look what, look what we have

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<v Speaker 2>to work with. Let's grab some of these rocks and

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<v Speaker 2>start building an altar.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So look around your life right now and grab some

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<v Speaker 2>of those rocks and start building an alter That's where

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<v Speaker 2>the change begins.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, that was Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite,

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<v Speaker 1>as it was for those of for those of you

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<v Speaker 1>who are wondering what the heck was that.

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<v Speaker 2>Very theologically significant movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, you know the gospel is clear in a lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>The Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I loved it. That's one of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorites. You know, it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way.

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<v Speaker 1>So John Arperg writes a book and he says that

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<v Speaker 1>the pattern of every great movie, every best selling movie.

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<v Speaker 2>You heard about that epic in the book Epic. We

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<v Speaker 2>did a whole message on that book is.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, every epic movie, every the top one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, has the same pattern, which is it starts

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<v Speaker 1>off by everything's right in the world, and then something

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<v Speaker 1>tragic happens, something goes wrong, and then there either has

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<v Speaker 1>to be a fight to be fought or a journey

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<v Speaker 1>to be taken, and then somebody rescues the day right

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<v Speaker 1>and then everything's right again and or justice has been

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<v Speaker 1>served or something like this. And he says he is okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so out of the top one hundred, now not saying

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<v Speaker 1>there aren't great movies that don't follow that pattern, he says,

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<v Speaker 1>but out of the top one hundred best grossing movies,

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<v Speaker 1>guess how many follow that pattern?

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<v Speaker 3>All one hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>So off the top of your head, I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>something ready on the top of your head, pick one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best.

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<v Speaker 3>Movies that you know, uh, Gladiator, Gladiator.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything's right in the world. He just wins the war

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning. All of a sudden, what happens is

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<v Speaker 1>the Emperor is killed. He gets sold into slavery. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the tragic thing. He has to fight his way back,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he defeats the emperor at the end, literally

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<v Speaker 1>exactly exactly the pattern.

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<v Speaker 3>Elf Right, everything's right in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>He finds out that he's not an elf, journey has

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<v Speaker 1>to be taken to the Lincoln Tunnel, a battle has

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<v Speaker 1>to be fought, and in the end.

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<v Speaker 3>He saves Christmas. It's the same thing. It's the same pattern.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, there's the reason why I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>that is because Eldrich would say, that's the story of

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<v Speaker 1>the Gospel, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And we long for it. That's why we keep telling

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<v Speaker 2>that same story.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right because in Genesis chapter one, everything's right in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and then something happens, tragically, Sin enters into

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Then a battle has to be fought, a

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<v Speaker 1>journey has to be taken, that's Jesus, and then eventually

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<v Speaker 1>everything is restored and it's right again. Right, So Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>makes our sin right, he makes our relationship right with

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<v Speaker 1>our heavenly Father, and eventually the whole world will be

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<v Speaker 1>made right again. And so if the story of the

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<v Speaker 1>Gospel is buried deep down inside, even those people who

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<v Speaker 1>are not Christians, even the people who are, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they would they would call themselves atheists of the Hollywood elite.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet they even know that, deep down inside, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the story that.

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<v Speaker 2>People long for.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's amazing to me how the Gospel.

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<v Speaker 2>Well Homer wrote it is fine in the Iliad, in

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<v Speaker 2>the right. That's it's you go back, even to the

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<v Speaker 2>ancient writings. We've been telling those stories almost every one

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<v Speaker 2>of Shakespeare's Great Place, same with the same thing. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you go it's the story of humanity, we keep

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<v Speaker 2>telling that same story. The other big story we tell

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<v Speaker 2>is the beloved is captured away by the dragon. The

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<v Speaker 2>hero comes and sacrifices his life to get his beloved back.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the other side of the gospel, right, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>other story we tell. Those are the two stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, and so and so it's uh, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>gospel God places you know, his is longing down in

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<v Speaker 1>the depths of what's in the in the depths of

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<v Speaker 1>every man or I'm just taking a quote by C. S.

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<v Speaker 3>Lewis the God shaped hole.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's It's from Ecclesiastes that God has placed

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<v Speaker 2>eternity in the heart.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I was thinking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And and God is a place attorney in the heart

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<v Speaker 1>of every man.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, that book that you reference for the movie

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<v Speaker 2>type people that love this kind of stuff, John Eldridge

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<v Speaker 2>wrote it. It's called Epic. It's a little tiny book.

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<v Speaker 2>You can probably buy an Amazon Amazon for parably ten bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well, I sort of feel justified in my movie knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there you go a little bit. It's great, right

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<v Speaker 1>because it's the God. I find the Gospel in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of those. Okay, that's it. That's our time. So

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully we'll see you on Monday on the Bible Gush