WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:13.919 practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible Guys who 4 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:15.919 we are excited to be here. 5 00:00:15.960 --> 00:00:18.640 Today's a big party, Chris, it is a big party. 6 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:22.920 Today is our seven hundred and fiftieth episode of The 7 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:23.600 Bible Guys. 8 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:26.239 Wow, what that is a lot? It is a lot 9 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:29.120 considering it's only what twenty episodes a month? 10 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:31.640 Yeah, something like that. I don't know, it's a lot. Yeah, 11 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:32.600 it's a lot. 12 00:00:32.920 --> 00:00:34.880 I think when we hit like the five hundred episode, 13 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:36.880 we were like, we never thought we'd do five hundred 14 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:37.560 anythings together. 15 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:40.840 Yeah, so here we are seven fifty seven. That's incredible. 16 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:43.280 So here's what I did is I asked chat GPT, 17 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:46.880 help us celebrate today as our seven hundred fiftieth episode. 18 00:00:46.920 --> 00:00:48.679 Let's make a big deal about the significance of seven 19 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:51.240 fifty What other important seven fifties are out there? 20 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:51.600 Oh? 21 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:51.920 Nice? 22 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:54.520 Yeah, and it said seven to fifty BC is roughly 23 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:55.600 the time that the prophet. 24 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:56.280 Isaiah was active. 25 00:00:56.479 --> 00:00:59.119 Yeah, it's kind of neat Austin Isaiah right, kind of 26 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:02.280 a big deal. This is also when Homer composed the 27 00:01:02.320 --> 00:01:04.840 iliot in the ody No nice Yeah yeah, after he 28 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:06.959 was chasing Barton. 29 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:10.560 Yeah, go around? Is that I don't know anyways. 30 00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:12.920 Also, it says seven hundred fifty dollars is the fine 31 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:14.680 for parking your donkey in a fire lane in some 32 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:15.719 ancient Mesopotamia. 33 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:16.920 Down that is hilarious. 34 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:18.640 This is okay, we made that one up, but you 35 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:24.519 bleed it for second. Oh no, oh no, just played 36 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:25.359 a joke on us. 37 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:27.879 I actually thought to myself, seven fifties a little steep 38 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:28.879 a donkey. 39 00:01:28.959 --> 00:01:32.040 Somewhere it says seven hundred and fifty mili leaders is 40 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:34.760 the standard size of a wine bottle. So apparently every 41 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:36.599 episode could have been a toast if we planned better. 42 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:39.359 Yeah, scoops. 43 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:42.280 Seven hundred fifty degrees is how hot my grill gets 44 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:43.159 when I forget. 45 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:47.319 That turn I turned it on. Wow, this let me see. 46 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:50.319 The word God appears more than seven hundred and fifty 47 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:54.359 times in the NIV Bible. Oh, come on, said more 48 00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:57.040 than Okay, listen to this one. It rained for seven 49 00:01:57.120 --> 00:02:00.280 days before the flood came. Okay, and Noah's our had 50 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:03.879 fifty cubits of width seven and fifty the coincidence. Wow, 51 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:06.079 do you think not, Chuck, If you did that math, 52 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:10.639 there are exactly zero verses about seven to fifty in 53 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:13.280 the Bible. But if we're honest, some of our early 54 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:14.800 episodes probably shouldn't count either. 55 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:16.919 That's it, isn't that funny? 56 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:18.120 Yeah, that's really Yeah. 57 00:02:18.159 --> 00:02:20.879 So seven hundred and fifty episodes means thousands of minutes 58 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:23.840 in God's word countless dad jokes. 59 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:28.719 Eighteen thousand, seven hundred and fifty. Actually what minute minutes? 60 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:31.560 If you if you counted a twenty five minutes an episode? 61 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:34.919 Yeah, well I worked that out. It actually works out 62 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:40.159 to ninety thousand, seven hundred and one hours of listening 63 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:43.800 because we've had over one million, seven thousand views. 64 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:46.719 Oh for the people viewing. 65 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:48.000 Yeah yeah, views and listens. 66 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:50.360 So when you take our our all the people listening 67 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:53.319 on podcasts, yeah yeah, yeah, you know, so the people 68 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:56.759 that are down listening download or listening and downloading on 69 00:02:56.879 --> 00:03:01.759 like Apple podcasts and yeah yeah and Spotify and all those, 70 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:04.919 if you take all of those plus our YouTube views, 71 00:03:05.080 --> 00:03:08.599 we're at one million, seven one hundred and three. Wow. 72 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:10.960 So some people get one million views on you know, 73 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:11.759 just one thing. 74 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:19.759 Right it tafty episodes And that translates to ninety thousand, 75 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:27.039 seven hundred and one hours and twenty minutes of spending 76 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:29.520 time listening to us horse around. 77 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:31.240 And talk about the Bible. That's pretty amazing. 78 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:31.919 Yeah, that's great. 79 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:35.840 Yeah, so it's been an honor. Here's here's how it ended. 80 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:38.919 Seven hundred and fifty isn't just a number. It's a monument, 81 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:42.800 a milestone, a testament to two guys, a couple of 82 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:45.800 microphones in the word of God doing what it does best, 83 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:49.199 changing lives. Thanks for riding with us this far, and 84 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:50.199 hang on because. 85 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:52.240 We're just getting started. There it is there, You going 86 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:52.759 that nice? 87 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:55.199 Now, I'm gonna have to abbreviate the segment because we 88 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:58.680 celebrated seven fifty. Well, but there is a segment. 89 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:03.000 We don't have to abbreviate it because this is everybody's 90 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:06.319 favorite episode seven to fifty. It is Friday, and it's Friday, 91 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:10.840 it's everybody's favorite day. And then this is everybody's favorite segment. 92 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:15.199 What better way to celebrate seven fifty without you trying 93 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:16.800 to imply that I was wasting your time? 94 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:18.800 No, not long, you take all the time. 95 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:20.720 I don't want I don't want to waste everybody else's time. 96 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:22.720 No, you're not wasting everyod else's time. Okay, they love 97 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:24.519 They tuned in for the seven and fifty the episode 98 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:25.560 It's a party, Chris. 99 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:26.600 Okay, it's a party. 100 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:30.639 So what make Chris mad this week? Yeah? 101 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:34.000 So it happened on Sunday. And when I was here, 102 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:36.319 I was in the I was I was speaking on 103 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:38.959 Sunday id Heritage Church and I was in the back 104 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:41.680 with all the staff. Right, so these are like the 105 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:44.800 people that are closer to you, These are your leaders, right, 106 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:47.120 these are the people that are you know, with you 107 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:49.800 all the time. And I had something hanging out of 108 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:55.959 my nose, and I was talking to several people, and 109 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:58.319 it was very obvious that this thing was hanging out 110 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:00.959 of my nose, and no nobody said a word to me. 111 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:04.560 A booker, like a candy bar, a booger, a bat. 112 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:07.879 No it was. It was well symbolically a gold nugget. 113 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:11.079 Symbolically the bats were in the cave because one was 114 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:14.240 peeking out. So anyway, so I had something hanging on 115 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:17.120 my nose, and then I went over to the mirror, 116 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:20.160 thank goodness, and I went ahead and checked and I 117 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:23.000 thought to myself, Okay, that was there just a minute ago, 118 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:25.000 And thank godness. I checked before I went out to 119 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:26.959 the crowd and went out to the lobby. But I 120 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:29.720 thought to myself, they were going to let you you're 121 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:30.519 not a good friend. 122 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:31.360 Yeah. 123 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:33.399 So I mean I only talked to a handful of people, 124 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:34.680 like like seven or eight of them. 125 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:37.560 They know who they are, your lady, and you know 126 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:38.839 who you are. Maybe you do. 127 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:41.319 You could have if you saw it Sunday. This is 128 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:43.480 on you. Yes, and now when they listen to this, this 129 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:45.000 is a couple of weeks ago. So here's a couple 130 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:46.920 of Sundays ago. Go back in your mind. 131 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:48.800 So I told you I'm mad for the world. Yes, 132 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:52.279 So I'm saying this. I'm saying if if you're a 133 00:05:52.319 --> 00:05:56.120 person who sees that happen where somebody has something hanging 134 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:59.199 out their nose and you don't say, hey, you have 135 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:02.040 something hanging out us, then you are not a good friend. 136 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:03.279 You're not a good friend, period. 137 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:05.959 There's no offens or bout. There's no debate. 138 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:07.879 Man, Chris is throwing it down today. 139 00:06:07.959 --> 00:06:09.040 You are not a good friend. 140 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:10.040 Hot take Now. 141 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:12.519 You may be a friend, yes, but you're not a 142 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:13.160 good friend. No. 143 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:16.319 I am going to be in agreement with you on now. Yes, Yeah, 144 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:19.120 good for you man. Yes, so thank you. So it 145 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:21.560 made me about half of all those for whom you 146 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:25.079 are offended. Yes, thank you, We thank you Chris for 147 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:26.319 standing in the gap for us. 148 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:28.399 Now listen to this. Here go I'll go a step further. 149 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:35.120 Even if they're not my good friends, if they care 150 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:37.639 about the mission of Heritage Church, they should care that 151 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:41.680 the pastor is about to walk into public right and 152 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:43.560 in an embarrassing way. 153 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:43.839 Yeah. 154 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:46.920 Yeah, which means even if they're not my friend, you 155 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:51.120 should be a friend to somebody who In other words, here, 156 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:53.560 here's what I'm saying. I'm saying I would say that 157 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:56.079 to somebody who even wasn't a good friend. I'll even 158 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:58.279 go further than that and say I would care. 159 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:02.360 About just for humanity in general. Well, like a server, Yes. 160 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:04.399 Like a server. Let's just say a server walks up 161 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:07.519 to you, Hey, can I help you today? What would 162 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:09.439 you say something to that server if they had a 163 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:10.160 bookerhanging other? 164 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:12.959 Yes, yes, yes, I almost every time I see it, 165 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:13.639 I'll mention it. 166 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:18.720 I think I don't want people to be embarrassed, right right? Yeah? Wow, Well, Chris, 167 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:21.600 thank you for standing for truth and justice for. 168 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:22.800 All in the American way. 169 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:25.920 And the American thank you so much. 170 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:26.959 Hey, you are welcome. 171 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:29.600 That's everybody's favorite segment. And if you if this is 172 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:32.279 your first segment with us, there's seven hundred and fifty 173 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:34.120 more just riveting episodes. 174 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:39.079 And so ultimately, Jeff, I'm going to forgive those people 175 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:43.680 who didn't mention that to me. And uh, and it's 176 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:44.839 because Jesus. 177 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:46.279 You know who else forgave. 178 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:49.319 It's because Jesus forgave the worst of people in the 179 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:49.959 worst of moments. 180 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:53.399 Yeah, you and Jesus. Right, Well, I didn't say that. 181 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:56.079 It's just the same I just said in your moment, 182 00:07:56.120 --> 00:08:02.879 in jesus moment, almost almost as difficult, right, we were. 183 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:04.959 Going through some of the same things, Jeff. 184 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:10.399 Very similar. Oh my gosh, this is terrible. 185 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:14.279 That is not what I say is he's equated his 186 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:16.959 potentially embarrassing moment. 187 00:08:17.120 --> 00:08:21.199 No, No, what I said was I'm forgiving because Jesus forgave. 188 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:24.040 Oh okay, and he commands us to forgive. I see, 189 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:26.720 that's what Jesus commanded us to forgive because he forgave. 190 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:29.600 Well yeah, yeah, well so yeah. 191 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:32.240 I just was reading in devotions the other day about 192 00:08:32.279 --> 00:08:37.759 where Paul says you should forgive because you've been forgiven. 193 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:42.799 Right or Pheasans for thirty two, the kind one to another, tenderhearted, 194 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:45.679 forgiving one another, even as God, for Christ has. 195 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:46.679 Forgiven you think. 196 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:50.039 Booop Ephesians for two. 197 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:58.679 Yeah, you never cease to amaze me, Chris never boo. Yeah, 198 00:08:58.720 --> 00:08:59.759 that's it, okay. 199 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:03.759 So Luke chapter twenty three is where we're at. Yes, 200 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:05.720 And this is while we've laughed a little bit. We're 201 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:07.799 a couple of guys who like to talk about the Bible. 202 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:08.200 And fun of practice. 203 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:11.919 Laugh, We laugh a lot. But you know, we take 204 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:15.240 our faith very seriously. We just don't take ourselves too seriously. 205 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:17.000 That's right, right, So I think that's the best way 206 00:09:17.039 --> 00:09:19.399 to explain us. That should be our tagline. We take 207 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:21.559 our faith serious and we just don't take ourselves or 208 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:24.120 almost anything else fixing right else. 209 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:27.120 That's great. 210 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:30.120 And so we're in Luke chapter twenty three, and we're 211 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:33.519 going to read from thirty two down through forty nine 212 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:37.200 or so. And this is the Crucifixion, the most important 213 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:39.919 moment in Christian history apart from the Resurrection. 214 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:40.840 Yeah, for sure. 215 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:43.960 And here's what Jesus says, or here's what the Bible says. 216 00:09:44.039 --> 00:09:47.679 In Luke chapter twenty three, Verse thirty two says two others, 217 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:50.519 both criminals were led out to be executed with him, 218 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:52.840 and when they came to a place called the Skull, 219 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:55.279 they nailed him to the cross, and the criminals were 220 00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:58.080 also crucified, one on his right and one on his left. 221 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:01.080 And Jesus said, Father, forgive them, for they don't know 222 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:03.960 what they're doing. And the soldiers gambled for his clothes 223 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:07.360 by throwing dice. The crowd watched, and the leaders scoffed. 224 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:10.639 He saved others. They said, let him save himself if 225 00:10:10.679 --> 00:10:13.840 he really is God's Messiah, the chosen one. And the 226 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:16.200 soldiers mocked him too by offering him a drink of 227 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:19.080 sour wine. They called out to him, if you are 228 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:22.120 the king of the Jews, save yourself. A sign was 229 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:24.840 fastened above him with these words, this is the king 230 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:28.399 of the Jews. One of the criminals hanging beside him scoffed, 231 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:31.399 So you're the Messiah? Are you prove it by saving 232 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:34.080 yourself and us two while you're at it? But the 233 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:37.440 other criminal protested, don't you fear God even when you've 234 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:40.559 been sentenced to die. He deserved to die, We deserve 235 00:10:40.679 --> 00:10:43.279 to die. For our crimes. But this man hasn't done 236 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:46.879 anything wrong. And he said, Jesus, remember me when you 237 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:50.480 come into your kingdom. And Jesus replied, I assure you 238 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:54.559 today you'll be with me in paradise. Wow, there you go. 239 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:56.440 Oh. I thought you're gonna go through forty nine. 240 00:10:56.559 --> 00:10:58.200 I am I'm just gonna keep going. I just want 241 00:10:58.240 --> 00:10:59.080 to pause and say, there you go. 242 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:01.360 Yeah. 243 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:03.279 By this time, it was about noon, and darkness fell 244 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:06.240 across the whole land until three o'clock the light from 245 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:08.080 the sun was gone, and suddenly the curtain in the 246 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:10.600 sanctuary of the temple was torn down the middle. Then 247 00:11:10.679 --> 00:11:14.080 Jesus shouted, Father, I entrust my spirit into your hands, 248 00:11:14.600 --> 00:11:17.399 and with those words he breathed his last. When the 249 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:21.360 Roman officer, seeing execution, saw what had happened, he worshiped 250 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:24.120 God and said, surely this man was innocent. And when 251 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:26.240 all the crowd that came to see the crucifixion saw 252 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:29.000 what had happened, they went home in deep sorrow. But 253 00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:31.840 Jesus' friends, including the women who'd followed them from Galilee, 254 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:35.080 stood at a distance, watching, Yeah, well, there you go. 255 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:38.440 There you go. There it is. So we started off 256 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:43.120 by talking about one of the seven sayings on the Cross. 257 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:45.240 Do you remember two years ago we did a series 258 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:48.200 called It's Not Over. Yeah, remember that, and we ended 259 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:53.000 with Easter, and we actually looked at every saying on 260 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:56.679 the Cross. Jesus has seven sayings, right, and one of 261 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:58.600 them as Father forgive them for they don't know what 262 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:02.799 they're doing. And perhaps one of the well the I 263 00:12:02.840 --> 00:12:05.399 was gonna say one of thee but it's really the 264 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:10.080 greatest example of forgiveness in in all of history. Right. So, 265 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:13.919 here Jesus is coming down to you know, he knows 266 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:16.480 he's offering his life, but that Romans don't know that. 267 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:20.000 They don't know that they're uh you know, uh, it's 268 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:23.279 God's plan all along for Jesus to willingly lay down 269 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:27.159 his life. Uh. They Romans think that they're just you know, 270 00:12:27.919 --> 00:12:31.080 executing somebody that that stirred up the Jews and the 271 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:33.559 Jews didn't like him, and and and they're just you know, 272 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:36.759 just sort of helping the Jews get rid of somebody. 273 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:39.799 That's all they think. But here they are, they're they're 274 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:44.879 they're torturing Jesus. He's he's suffering. The Bible says he's 275 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:49.759 barely recognizable as a man. They they they put thorns 276 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:52.840 in his scalp, they ripped out his beard, they punched him, 277 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:56.720 they mocked him, all all that. They whipped him right 278 00:12:57.279 --> 00:12:59.360 and and and then they crucify him. And then the 279 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:03.080 measure of cruse, the tortuous method of crucifixion. Oh, all 280 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:06.519 of that, it's just awful. And then in this moment 281 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:11.559 he says to the people doing this to him, father, 282 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:16.159 forgive them. It is the greatest example of forgiveness in 283 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:17.519 the history of humanity. 284 00:13:17.720 --> 00:13:21.559 Yeah. Right, well, so it starts off you have the 285 00:13:21.559 --> 00:13:22.320 two criminals. 286 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:23.840 Yeah, the passage. 287 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:25.799 Yep, he's been nailed to the cross. 288 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:26.200 Yep. 289 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:29.519 He's on this this hill called the Place of the Skull. 290 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:31.879 Did you go see that spot? 291 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:35.759 Yes, Yeah, there's the bus terminal underneath it, a Muslim 292 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:40.000 grave or cemetery above it. But I mean when you 293 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:41.200 sit there and look at it, you can see the 294 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:44.039 two eyes, you can see the broken nose and the 295 00:13:44.279 --> 00:13:45.440 it's it's really phenomenal. 296 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:48.120 That very likely I think is the place. 297 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:50.320 I do too. Yeah. You know, when you ever, whenever 298 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:55.279 you have a massive mountain or a hilltop or something 299 00:13:55.279 --> 00:13:58.840 that just resembles something, right like then the counter money 300 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:02.200 Crystal my favorite movie. There's there's a there's a piece 301 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:05.320 of rock that's so big it's and it looks like 302 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:07.799 an elephant, and it's like, oh my goodness, it's almost 303 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:10.879 like God created an elephant out of the mountain, right, 304 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:12.960 and it's like and it's like, that's the way this looks. 305 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:15.799 It looks like the wonder Ribs called the place. It 306 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:16.559 looks like a skull. 307 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:19.159 Yeah, And they were known to have crucified and this 308 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:22.039 place before the Romans, it was like a sport to 309 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:26.039 them almost so, so this place is a very definitive place. 310 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:29.639 It's a shameful place. So the shame of it, the crucifixion, 311 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:33.720 the brutality of the flogging that he had taken, the 312 00:14:34.080 --> 00:14:38.519 you know with the cat of nine tails, the shame 313 00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:40.039 of walking through the streets. 314 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:42.679 Naked with just a cross on his back. It just 315 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:43.559 would have been horrible. 316 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:49.080 And then when you he forgives them, And then I 317 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:52.000 think the Bible, then remember how the we're not the 318 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:55.399 Bible's not linear like we were Westerners. We think in 319 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:58.320 a linear way, this this, this, this, then this. So 320 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:00.360 when we read Father forgive them, they don't know what 321 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:02.200 they're doing. We look back and the only thing that's 322 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:06.120 happened is he's been spit upon, beaten, you know, and crucified. 323 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:09.840 But it goes beyond that. He's not forgiving those events. 324 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:13.639 He's forgiving people. And so you've got there's a crowd, 325 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:18.120 there's leaders. The leaders are scoffing. He saved others. He 326 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:20.720 can't say, this is what he's forgiving them for is 327 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:22.600 the people who did all these horrible things to him 328 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:25.919 are still mocking him. He's forgiving these these leaders. The 329 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:29.600 soldiers mocked him too. They offer him a drink of 330 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:32.919 sour wine, so like vinegar is what they're offering. I 331 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:34.639 did that to my brother one time. I got my 332 00:15:34.679 --> 00:15:36.720 brother to drink a whole bunch of vinegar as a joke. 333 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:37.759 It made him sick. 334 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:41.720 Right, So, and then they're mocking him. If you're the 335 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:43.720 king of the Jews. So now you've got you've got 336 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:46.559 the religious leaders mocking him. You say you're the promised one, 337 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:49.639 and you you don't even have the power to come 338 00:15:49.639 --> 00:15:54.480 off the cross. Right, You've got the Romans, the most 339 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:56.320 powerful empire of the world that ever seen up to 340 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:59.039 that point, saying, if you're really the King of the Jews, 341 00:15:59.080 --> 00:15:59.960 do something about it. 342 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:00.799 Ha ha ha. 343 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:04.480 So now he's being mocked as a king, yeah, not 344 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:07.039 just a Messiah's being mocked as a king. And then 345 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:10.080 there's this sign fastened above him, these these this is 346 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:12.799 the king of the Jews. One of the criminals, one 347 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:16.360 of the sinners. Next to him goes, if you're really 348 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:19.399 just prove it, right, prove it. All you have to 349 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:22.159 do is make all of our wildest dreams come true. 350 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:24.720 Right literally, that's the temptation, is just make all of 351 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:26.919 our little, wildest dreams come true. And I believe that 352 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:30.919 Jesus is forgiving him forgiving them. Of course the torture 353 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:32.679 is bad, but that's temporary. 354 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:34.759 Well, I mean, it's the hearts of the people that 355 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:36.480 are so wicked that he's forgiving. 356 00:16:36.679 --> 00:16:40.120 Now that you're now that you're opening all of our 357 00:16:40.159 --> 00:16:43.039 minds to this idea. Uh, We'll think about how many 358 00:16:43.039 --> 00:16:46.000 people were just standing around observing, you know, we we 359 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:49.080 we learned that that just a week before they were 360 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:53.480 yelling Hosanna. And then that same crowd was persuaded and 361 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:57.120 bullied by the Pharisees and threatened. Uh. And then some 362 00:16:57.159 --> 00:16:59.919 of them probably even willingly changed their mind. And then 363 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:02.879 they shout and crucify him. So even the people in 364 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:06.440 the crowd that just betrayed and turned their backs on 365 00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:10.839 Jesus on a moment's notice, Jesus was probably able to 366 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:15.039 look out and see, you're right beyond just the people 367 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:20.759 who tortured him, and to everybody who was observing. He 368 00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:24.400 knew the hearts of everybody and was able to forgive 369 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:26.920 all of them for everything in this moment. 370 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:32.319 So we would focus on the torture and the ending 371 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:35.720 of his life is what he's forgiving, and that's not it. 372 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:40.519 What he's forgiving is the animosity and the hatred and 373 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:45.640 the overt sin rate, literally literally spitting in the face 374 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:50.160 of God, mocking God that he's forgiving the hearts of people, 375 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:53.279 the heart that drove these people to do these things, 376 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:57.799 not just the behaviors themselves. Death was going to come 377 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:03.759 quickly for him, right physical the physical side of this 378 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:07.000 is horrible to you and me. But I think what 379 00:18:07.039 --> 00:18:12.039 God's trying to highlight is the hostility that humanity naturally 380 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:15.000 has against God, or the passivity, because it mentions twice 381 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:17.519 that people just stood and watched, So there's tons of 382 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:22.000 people that are passive, just passively, ah whatever. And then 383 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:25.720 you have some actively mocking God, and then a bunch 384 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:27.680 of people, I think the huge majority of people, even 385 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:31.160 maybe a bunch of our listeners are prove it. If 386 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:33.160 you really are who you say, I prove it right. 387 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:36.519 And all of that is what Jesus is forgiving. That's 388 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:40.519 the assault on God. Jesus knew what heaven was like. 389 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:44.480 He wasn't afraid to go back right right right. And 390 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:47.200 then your body can only handle so much pain. And 391 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:50.960 then finally, pain is just pain. It doesn't you know, 392 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:55.519 So hit your thumb with a hammer, get shot by 393 00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:58.359 a bullet, have a baby. Even women will say there 394 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:00.240 was a moment when it was just pain. I don't 395 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:02.160 know that it got any worse. It was just pain. 396 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:07.119 Right there is this your body begins to release things, 397 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:09.759 the chemicals in your body, where it just kind of 398 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:12.960 the shock. That's what shock is. Is at a point 399 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:17.480 you can't process any more than that. And so to 400 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:19.640 you and me, that's the horrible part of it. But 401 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:21.359