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Hey, welcome back to the show! We are Better Buy Bitcoin and myself, I'm Bondor. This is

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Anton. We wanted to get into talking about the markets and what's going on today with all of the

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the VIX spike up to 50 or 60-ish last night, and tariffs and how Bitcoin plays into that, and yeah,

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there's a whole bunch of stuff going on. People are losing their minds and then

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apparently everyone is just folding overseas. So yeah, it's a pretty good time.

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Yeah, the market, the S&P, for the U.S. was barely down today, but over the last two days

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it was down something like 9%, I think. Pretty big drop, but other countries are down way more.

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Yeah, futures are presently at, looks like we're going to get,

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the futures closed at 5,100, so 5,100, which is down considerably from the peak.

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You know a lot about the VIX. Can you take a second to explain what it is and why it matters?

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So the VIX is basically, it's a measure of volatility, VIX, V-I-X, volatility index,

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if you will. But what it measures is it measures the open interest on

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options, and I'm going to butcher this. I haven't been around trading for a while now, but it,

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basically, somebody opens a contract that says, hey, I want to hedge my downside on that S&P,

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and they say, I want to do it at this level and all this, like this level for this amount,

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et cetera, et cetera. Here's the contract, and the VIX kind of measures how many of those

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contracts are out there in some, it's way more complicated than this, but that's the idea.

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And from that, you can see, oh, well, hey, there's a ton of puts or a ton of calls,

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and that kind of gets you an indication of implied volatility, gets you an indication of

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where people are thinking the market's going to go. And from there, you can kind of draw

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conclusions or draw inferences about what's happening in the market and how much

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uncertainty and FUD there is. So today, the VIX trading at 60 puts it at,

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not on VIX anymore,

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puts it at, like, almost even with the market crash that happened in August of last year.

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And to put some more perspective on that, the COVID crash, the VIX went to 85. The average,

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like the universal average for the VIX is about 17. So if you're below that, you're considering

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an ultra-low volatility paradigm. There's a big, huge thing in 2018 called the Volmageddon.

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That's like when I was actually trading options, and the VIX was traded at the lowest it's ever

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traded ever, which is at eight. So you kind of get a perspective. The highest it's ever been

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for this measurement, it also depends on how you measure it, but for what I'm looking at right now,

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the highest it's ever been was, let's see, that is October 2008 at 96. So we are, and but it's not,

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it's not like a linear measure. It's not like this goes up and down like a stock. It is a complete,

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it is its own class of measurement, if you will. So to put it in perspective, we are looking at

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today, there've been, what happened today over the last 24 hours, there've only been three other

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events in the last 30 years that have had this much volatility. So this is a big event, for sure.

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No doubt about it. Now, why, Anton, why is there such a big market event today? What happened?

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Well, Trump happened, I guess. People are getting what they voted for, generally. And I can't even,

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my opinion of tariffs, which is what caused all this, is that they're generally not great. We

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rely on trading in an even way with various countries that produce things that we need.

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And just personally, I'm kind of against all taxes and tariff is like a tax on a nation

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for importing goods. And so we essentially are charging these countries a lot more money to sell

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their stuff inside of our country. And it just caused the market to freak out. And the question

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is, is it a temporary freak out? Or is it something more permanent? Is this going to cause

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a fundamental change for the next few years and how trade happens across the globe? And

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what do you think? Do you think that it's a more permanent shift? Or do you think this is just a

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temporary thing? So I think it's totally temporary. And I think I posted about it in the

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chat we have last night. But it's basically like, bro, every country, like almost every country on

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Earth has some deep reliance on America, be it security, like economy, just something,

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manufacturing, like consumption goods, America's buying all our stuff. We have family in America,

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like it just goes on and on. The world economy is entirely connected. The fact that tariffs exist at

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all, to your point, is ridiculous. And so I think it's just a temporary thing. And I think it's

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your point is ridiculous. It's the stupidest thing ever. Now, when you bet against America,

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you're going to have a bad time. And everybody knows that, right? So everybody who has a tariff

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in place already is basically just like, well, we bet against America. And nobody in American

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politics, because they're all cowards, have done anything about it for decades. And the thing you

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do about it is you just have a reciprocal tariff. Like, okay, cool, you're going to charge 50% for

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our goods, in addition to what they cost. We're going to charge 50% for your goods,

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in addition to what they cost. And consequently, nobody wins. And so they just, it's just like,

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just collapse the tariffs. Let's do away with this absurdity, right? That's Trump's plan,

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as I understand it. I'm not an expert on Trump. You know, it is what it is, right?

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Yeah.

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So the plan is, cool, we are going to implement reciprocal tariffs, or close to them, and then

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get people on board with removing all your tariffs. Hey, if you get rid of your tariffs,

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we'll get rid of our tariffs. Now, I don't know. Who knows what's going on in Trump's mind, right?

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Like, not a soul. But if he even knows, that'd be a miracle if he knew. But what the idea is,

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it's a strategic move. We'll get everybody to either, one, remove their tariffs from us,

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or two, we'll just be onshoring all of that industry back into America, because it's going

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to be cheaper. So that's kind of the broad picture of it. Now, what happens next is, well,

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oh, crap, we can't live without America. We can't do the thing, whatever. And so, you see that,

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and I don't know, I just heard the news on it. It's just like the total capitulation from some

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countries. Like, whatever, we'll enter the negotiations right away. Like, this is,

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we can't afford to do this, whatever. It's going to shut down industries that we rely on, etc.

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And then other countries, like China, we're going to, like, increase the tariffs, because, hey,

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we can't stand for this. And then Trump comes back, because Trump is,

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Looney Tunes, just comes back stronger. It's like, okay, well, what are we going to do about that?

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So we'll see, man. It's interesting times. It is interesting times. It's funny, because

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you get people that are so, they're so opinionated, and their hatred of, you know, if it's like a

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Republican in office, and they're more of a Democrat persuasion, they have such a hatred

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that a Republican's in office, but they don't actually do any research on the thing they're

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talking about. They just, they're just, they're just blind, white hot hatred. And I don't think

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a lot of people realize that other countries had tariffs against us already, and tariffs for

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other countries. Like, they just charged a lot to import anything into their countries. People also

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don't know the tax policy of other countries. And I was guilty of this as a younger person. I think

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that I used to think that other countries didn't pay taxes, like the people weren't charged taxes.

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I didn't know about things like in the UK or in Europe that you pay a value added tax.

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You literally pay a 20% sales tax on every single thing you buy. So if you're in England, and you

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buy a MacBook Pro, you're paying 20% extra on top of the cost of the MacBook Pro. Plus, there's

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there's probably an import cost. It's so everything is more expensive to them than it is to us.

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It's like this idea. It's like a, it's like an idea of, like, the only thing I compare it to is

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like the noble savage or something. We think that all these other countries are more noble savage

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We think that all these other countries are more noble than we are. In reality,

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doesn't matter what country you're from, you're roughly paying the same amount of income tax and

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sales tax. It all kind of like factors out the same. I've heard people from the third world that

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I used to work with. I say the third world, they're basically from like South America.

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They were like, and they're all they're all liberal. They would say, I was basically saying

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that I didn't like that we had to pay taxes. I was young, I was just getting charged income tax

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the first time. And they're like, the difference between where you live here in America and where

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I come from is that we both pay taxes, but your taxes go towards something. That was their

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perspective on it. Because in those other countries, you still get charged the tax,

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but the country doesn't just doesn't function well at all. My argument would be for why America

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functions at all. And I used to be on the more much more liberal side, I used to think that

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America didn't have a culture. America absolutely has a culture, America has a really good culture,

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the lineage that our culture comes from is very honorable, it has values. And it's that hard

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working American with a good moral backbone that makes the country function well. And other

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countries that have somewhat of that same moral background backbone also function well. But

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every single one of them levies very, very unfair taxes against their own citizens and

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against other countries. And it makes everything function in a worse way than it should function

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and tariffs are no different. That's just that's my opinion. What do you think?

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Yep, 100%. I mean, yeah, it's ridiculous. The the way that other nations treat America is,

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is insane. And we just like, let it happen. We're just like, okay, like the bleeding heart liberal

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syndrome again, but like at an international stage, like, oh, of course, of course, we'll

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send you all of all the unbelievable billions of dollars of USAID and like, oh, of course,

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we'll let you just like literally tax all of American industry out of existence, because we

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can't like export, but you guys can just import our like, just it's just bonkers. Like, you guys

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can send your imports to us that we pay for, and they're cheaper, and we'll do it or whatever. And

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it's just, no, it's not a free market. It's not like equitable. It's not. It's like all of these

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things, you go down, like all of the liberal talking points, it's like all of them are just

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violated. Okay, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I like to think about what should happen versus

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what will happen. And so a lot of a lot of people are stuck in this loop right now. And people that

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I really, really respect, respect, including Bitcoiners, I hear them talking, just kind of

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like the people that voted for Trump, and they're like, I don't like anything he's doing. I'm not a

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fan of this. My portfolio is way down. The Bitcoin price is way down. And I get that I get the

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criticism of it. And I have my own opinions on what I believe should happen. But what I believe

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should happen and what is going to happen aren't necessarily the same thing. So jumping forward a

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little bit, what do you think is going to happen right now? The market, the markets are absolutely

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wrecked. Even the everything's down, the gold price is down, the S&P is down, the price of

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Bitcoin is down. Like, I don't know what it is that right now, but it's down 30% from the all

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time high. What do you think are some of the things that happen next? I think more countries

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capitulate. And I think that that's just imagine you're imagine you're a world leader, right?

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Dealing with Trump, who whether or not you agree with him, it's like, it's the maximum crazy beats

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strong every time, right? He's a crazy person. You can't, you can't negotiate, you can't fight,

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like, what is he going to do? He's like, literally posting videos online of them drone striking

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people in Yemen. It's like, this is literally a madman. So what are you going to do? It's like,

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well, you can go to war with a madman, crazy beats strong. And also, he's probably the strongest,

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because he's got the American military. So what are you going to do, you're going to remove your

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tariffs, and you're going to have to battle him on the economic front. So like, okay, that's what

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that's what I think is going to happen. I think more of that's going to happen. The people who

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come to the negotiation table first, and like, okay, yeah, we can, we can get rid of some of

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these tariffs and blah, blah, blah, they're going to be treated extremely favorably. And then

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the next person in line will say, Oh, well, maybe I'll get a good deal. And so then they'll get

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they'll come in and, you know, and then I'll just kind of, hopefully, most of the tariffs go away,

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not all the tariffs are going to go away. It's going to be a matter of who can who can somebody

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and who can't. Most of the countries out there are led by a bunch of cowards. So they won't be

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able to stomach it at all. China will be able to stomach more, but yeah, who knows?

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In the US, we have the global reserve currency, we have an incredibly high GDP,

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we joke and say that America doesn't make a whole lot, but we still do manufacture things.

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We have a lot of raw materials that we ship out. We're incredibly powerful in the world. And

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so many of the people of like the leftist persuasion who have Trump derangement syndrome,

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they are seeing events through their hatred. And they're not really, they're not understanding

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that in the rest of the world, people don't have an American perspective. They're not seeing things

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the way that we do and world leaders want to negotiate. They're not the world leaders are

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not filled with just a blind hatred the way that they are because they realize that there is

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serious damage that can be done to their countries to their people to their own reputations if they

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don't play ball. And nobody wants the world to get I mean, I guess there are people that want

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the world to get poorer. But in general, people want their countries to do better. They want their

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own portfolio to do better. And world leaders are no different. And they're going we're not at war.

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And so they are going to negotiate the best they can. And, you know, sometimes I'm like,

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is Trump playing for DHS? Is he brilliant? Or is he an idiot savant? I don't know the answer. But

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does it even matter? If the deal still works out? Does it even matter? And it's very, very likely

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that he is going to get a deal worked out. It's not just him. There are a lot of other other people

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who are also negotiating these things. There's there's video of him talking about the tariffs

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in the 80s, that this is something that he would do. So it's not a new idea to him. But I also

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don't think that he came up with this. He has a whole horde of economists who talked him into

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doing this. And he just signed off on it. It's not just his idea. And it's a very old idea.

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So yeah, that's all. Yep. And then so there's also like the knock on effects, right? What's

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going to happen is that like, tariffs don't uniformly apply, they only apply to particular

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goods in particular industries, right? In particular ways. And it's very weird, right?

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Um, but going forward, you look at the totality of the supply chain, and the totality of the

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supply chain says that you're going to have Apple's supply chain 10,000 inputs or something

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absurd, right? Like, let's say that 10% of those inputs now have variable 30% to 50%

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increases on their cost. That's a big cost. And that affects all Apple end product pricing,

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right? So, okay. What does that mean? Well, it's going to trickle down to the rest of the economy

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like a inflation event. However, it's not monetarily based, it'll feel like an inflation

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event. But it won't be an inflation event. So there's that feeling of it. But the feeling of it

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is enough to push Powell over the edge to lower rates and to lower them faster,

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because the economy is going to start to slow and it's going to start to accelerate in that

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direction, right? So then once the rates are lower, then the quantitative infinity starts again,

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and the whole absurdity of money printing just goes on. And that's when the real inflation starts

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to pick up because money is free again. Hey, it doesn't matter. Again, that's going to be a bit on

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Bitcoin. Bitcoin is not necessarily a hedge against tariffs, but it's definitely a hedge

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against the consequences of tariffs, which are money printing and hey, we're just going to make

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more money and everyone's going to be happy again. It's ridiculous. You brought up inflation. Have

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you ever read Currency Wars by Jim Rickards? I have not, no. So it's just a book on essentially

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why some currencies inflate. So without saying everything happens in the book, I'll just say

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I spend a ton of time looking at various currencies. I'm looking at the euro, I'm looking

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at the pound, I'm looking at the yuan, I'm looking at... I have a child here that has jumped in.

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Can you go inside for a minute? What can you do? Hold on one second. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going

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to amuse myself. Yeah, one of the things that I remember about the Currency War book was that it

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had a... one of the theses was that it's kind of a race to the bottom. Whoever has the worst

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currency kind of wins because they're able to print the most and it devalues less. It's a very

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convoluted kind of thing. It's like getting into the weeds on absurdities of fiat money and how the

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game three plays out, but if you have a better take on it. Well, yeah, so

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we could, we, the United States, we could make our currency not inflate at all. You don't print

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money. Your currency doesn't inflate. People could save their money. They would have a ton of

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value. They'd be able to do the things they want and it's like, why wouldn't you do that? Well,

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there's two reasons why you don't do that. One, if you have a little bit of inflation,

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it makes debt easier to service. Essentially, you take on a big amount of debt. You spread

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those payments out over a number of years. A little bit later on down the road, that number

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doesn't have as much value and so it's easier to pay off. Like when I went to college,

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my four-year degree at a private college was a hundred thousand dollars. That exact same degree

00:22:09.040 --> 00:22:19.199
now costs $350,000. Same degree. It's one year. Yeah. I financed that degree over a 15-year

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period to pay it off and during that, the $600 payment that I had got easier and easier and

00:22:24.719 --> 00:22:32.560
easier to pay because $600 became less of a amount of money essentially. Okay, so that's one reason

00:22:32.560 --> 00:22:40.000
why the Federal Reserve wants 2% inflation. The other reason is that all of these other countries

00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:44.640
are also printing money. Their money is getting devalued. Their money is getting devalued even

00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:51.920
faster than ours. If our currency was too strong, when they want to buy products from us, those

00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:57.599
products become crazy unaffordable to them. If they want to come over to the US and do tourism

00:22:58.239 --> 00:23:05.599
and our currency is really, really strong, they can't go to Disneyland. They can't go to Las Vegas.

00:23:05.599 --> 00:23:10.640
They can't buy a plane ticket to come here. It's just too expensive. We're experiencing that right

00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:17.359
now. You have a ton of Westerners who are moving to Japan right now and everybody's like, yeah,

00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:24.880
Japan's just so cool and they have this subconscious notion that food is really

00:23:24.880 --> 00:23:31.359
cheap here. Hotels are really cheap and the products are really cheap. Not understanding

00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:40.079
that the Japanese currency has just inflated at a faster rate than our currency. It's cheap for us,

00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:46.079
but for a Japanese person to come to the US, it's really expensive. With currency wars,

00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:53.920
these nations purposely devalue their currencies to make the products that they manufacture

00:23:55.119 --> 00:24:02.959
be the right amount for those other countries to be able to afford to buy them so that it's keeping

00:24:02.959 --> 00:24:09.520
the momentum of commerce going. There's multiple reasons why our currencies are inflated.

00:24:09.520 --> 00:24:14.000
They're printing money to pay for wars and to make themselves powerful. They're printing money

00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:20.000
to put money in the military industrial complex as a way of money laundering for the super powerful

00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:25.119
rich elites that profit off of those things. They're inflating the currency so that asset

00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:30.880
prices go up because of the quintillion effect so that the people who hold the assets see the

00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:36.880
value of their net worth go up faster than the inflation happens, etc. Basically,

00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:42.800
all countries are inflating their money at all times and are going to keep doing that because

00:24:42.800 --> 00:24:51.520
the incentives for inflating the currencies are just very high incentives. The people, the plebs

00:24:51.520 --> 00:24:57.599
suffer because of that, but they can't make the people suffer too much because if they push it

00:24:57.599 --> 00:25:09.199
too far, then they get hyperinflation. Whatever their regime is will get deposed when that happens

00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:14.160
and it causes too much chaos. There's always this balance of how do we keep

00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:21.199
just enough inflation so that people don't really notice it. That's currency wars.

00:25:24.800 --> 00:25:31.760
Since the global financial crisis, the US was in a situation where they could not get inflation

00:25:31.760 --> 00:25:35.680
to pick up. They were, in a way, losing the currency wars. They were also the

00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:43.439
world reserve currency, which has all sorts of other effects because you just essentially export

00:25:43.439 --> 00:25:48.560
all your inflation because you don't have to suffer the consequences of it when people in

00:25:48.560 --> 00:25:54.880
Cambodia who don't really have access to dollars and are way further down the food chain are like,

00:25:54.880 --> 00:26:01.680
well, okay, cool. We'll just print as much money as we literally can, which is not hard to do. You

00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:08.560
can just print more and we'll distribute it locally. As we're finding out, just distribute

00:26:08.560 --> 00:26:17.680
it internationally too. Why not? America is closer to the money printer, so they benefit first.

00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:22.000
Then all the other countries suffer from the inflation, which is where you get the

00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:28.400
overseas prices being super low. When I lived in Korea, same thing. I've told this story a

00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:34.160
hundred times. I love it. We would go out on a Friday night and we would take a taxi cab there.

00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:40.959
We would eat dinner, drinks, go to karaoke, go back to get some more drinks, go get some more

00:26:40.959 --> 00:26:48.239
food, go to another karaoke spot. We're talking about eight hours of just night on the town with

00:26:48.239 --> 00:26:55.199
a group of 20 people or something. At the end of the night, we'd all pay whatever.

00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:59.680
But at the end of the night, we'd go through the list of, oh, yeah, I paid for this one and that

00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:06.959
one. It's like, wait a second, we only spent like 25 bucks. It's mind-boggling. You try to go out

00:27:06.959 --> 00:27:15.680
and eat at one restaurant in LA and it's a hundred dollars. It's interesting because Korea, clearly,

00:27:17.040 --> 00:27:22.400
no country has a perfect culture. I'm sure that there are things that Korea has culturally that

00:27:22.800 --> 00:27:28.160
if I knew exactly what they were, I'd be like, that's not as good as what we have in America.

00:27:29.439 --> 00:27:33.520
There are some things in America that I can say that we do that are not great.

00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:42.719
Korea is a culture that functions very, very well. Even though their inflation historically has been

00:27:42.719 --> 00:27:49.040
more extreme than our inflation has been, society in South Korea functions pretty well.

00:27:49.280 --> 00:27:53.680
You brought up places like, I don't know, you might say Cambodia, but I was thinking

00:27:53.680 --> 00:28:00.400
like Cameroon and different countries in Africa. The countries that are way further down,

00:28:02.239 --> 00:28:07.280
you have the US dollars, the global reserve currency, then you have the British pound,

00:28:07.280 --> 00:28:12.239
the euro. It used to be, maybe you could say the BRICS countries or something.

00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:18.719
Those countries all kind of trail our inflation. Their inflation runs a little higher than ours

00:28:18.719 --> 00:28:24.160
on average, but you have these other countries where it runs way higher. In our country,

00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:29.280
in the United States, inflation causes a greater and greater separation of the rich and the poor

00:28:29.280 --> 00:28:38.640
because if you have assets, your assets become more valuable faster than the money devalues.

00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:45.119
But when you have a low rate of inflation, it's not that noticeable. When you have a really high

00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:54.719
rate of inflation, it's really, really noticeable so that the people who own the assets, the value

00:28:54.719 --> 00:29:01.199
of it just goes astronomical. The people who are on the lower end, they go to buy lunch

00:29:02.560 --> 00:29:06.319
and they pay one amount. They go to buy dinner and there's already been inflation.

00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:12.479
They literally cannot save a penny. They just have to work and spend that money immediately.

00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:17.359
You have countries, I'm just going to use the whole continent of Africa. This is true almost

00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:25.359
in every single continent. The people who own the assets are essentially warlords or mob bosses.

00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:31.599
They have to fight for their survival with violence to hold on to the power that they have.

00:29:32.560 --> 00:29:40.880
And they're so wealthy that they essentially have slaves because they have so much money,

00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:48.479
they can just completely control everything around them. But in order to hold on to that power,

00:29:48.479 --> 00:29:53.040
they have to hold on to it in this insanely brutal way.

00:29:54.000 --> 00:30:03.199
So that actually, for me, that's one of the reasons that America doesn't have or really

00:30:03.199 --> 00:30:10.160
can export inflation and really doesn't have the same problems of inflation. And you hear this when

00:30:12.560 --> 00:30:15.359
foreigners come and study here or live here or whatever. They're like,

00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:20.959
yo, the reason everyone invests in America is because you guys have rule of law. It's not rule

00:30:20.959 --> 00:30:26.160
of drug lord. It's rule of law. And the consequences of there is that you can have

00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:32.959
peaceful and reputable property rights and value transfer and all the rest of it.

00:30:32.959 --> 00:30:38.959
And that puts a huge bid on assets because especially assets that require a state to

00:30:38.959 --> 00:30:45.839
protect them like real estate. Whereas in Africa, bro, it's just whoever has the biggest

00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:49.839
amount of guns. Not all of Africa, but many countries.

00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:58.479
I gotta tell a quick story. So by trade, I'm a cinematographer. And back in the day,

00:30:58.479 --> 00:31:04.640
I worked on a lot of what were essentially reality shows. And there was a show that I did.

00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:10.800
It was actually about the Obama at the time. It was about his limousine. It was called Presidential

00:31:10.800 --> 00:31:16.400
Beast. You probably still find it. It was a National Geographic show. And so we did all this

00:31:17.280 --> 00:31:27.199
research on the show about how much this armored limo could take. Could it take a 50 millimeter

00:31:27.199 --> 00:31:32.319
round? If somebody tried to blow it up, could it handle that? So we went to this place. It was in

00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:38.160
San Antonio called Texas Armoring Corporation. They had this viral video where the CEO of the

00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:42.800
company is like, I'm the CEO of Texas Armoring Corporation. I'm going to show what it means to

00:31:42.800 --> 00:31:48.000
stand behind my product. And he gets behind the glass. And one of his employees shoots an AK-47

00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:53.520
at the bulletproof glass that they make. And in front of his face, and he gets out and he's like,

00:31:53.520 --> 00:32:00.479
life is valuable, protect it. And that company, Texas Armoring Corporation, is a super interesting

00:32:00.479 --> 00:32:06.000
story because they went bankrupt in a pretty spectacular way. And the story behind that's

00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:10.800
worth looking up. But in the context of the story that I'm telling, they had a giant warehouse.

00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:15.599
And in one warehouse, they were making these cars. So they would have Mercedes G wagons,

00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:20.880
they would have Escalade, they would have Aston Martins, and they would strip the car down to the

00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:26.160
frame. And then they would put bulletproof glass and steel plating behind the car. And these cars

00:32:26.719 --> 00:32:33.119
were paid for up front by dictators around the world. And there's a lot of them. Dictators,

00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:40.560
warlords, cartel bosses. And so you'd have whoever the dictator in Nicaragua was,

00:32:41.280 --> 00:32:46.479
would be like, I want to have five armored Escalades. And so he'd pay for them, and they

00:32:46.479 --> 00:32:51.839
would make them. But these people, and I'm not just talking about dictators, I'm also talking

00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:58.000
about like people that own, you know, gold mines and lithium mines in Africa and stuff like that.

00:32:58.560 --> 00:33:05.280
They would get deposed so quickly, that oftentimes, they would order armored vehicles,

00:33:05.280 --> 00:33:09.439
and they would get deposed before they could take delivery of them. And so they had one warehouse

00:33:09.439 --> 00:33:12.959
where they were making the cars. And then they took us over to this other warehouse, and they

00:33:12.959 --> 00:33:18.239
like rolled up the door. And inside of this warehouse, it looked like a James Bond movie.

00:33:18.239 --> 00:33:25.199
It was giant lifted Escalades, Aston Martins, G wagons that were all fully made. They had

00:33:25.199 --> 00:33:30.959
electrified door handles. They had a thing where it would drop like a transmission fluid

00:33:30.959 --> 00:33:36.160
onto the exhaust pipe and create a huge smoke cloud as a smoke screen. They would drop metal

00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:39.839
tacks out of the back of them. They even had turrets that could pop up so you could have a

00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:45.280
machine gun on top of the car. And they just had all these cars that were sold that they had nobody

00:33:45.280 --> 00:33:49.920
to give them to because the guy had already been deposed. And they already collected all the money.

00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:53.760
They already collected all the money, and yet they still somehow went bankrupt. So you'd have

00:33:53.760 --> 00:33:59.599
to read the article on the Texas Armory Corporation is really fascinating. But yeah,

00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:06.000
that's all just to say that it's really dangerous out there to be a dictator or a crime boss in a

00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:11.600
third world country. But that kind of touches on getting back to tariffs and stuff. It touches on

00:34:11.600 --> 00:34:17.360
this idea of like high time preference, too, because like that industry, all of those people,

00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:22.320
every single thing about that is like, we exist by violence, like we live by the sword,

00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:28.639
die by the sword. If we don't get these trucks ASAP, we're dead. And like literally they're

00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:32.560
dead because they didn't get the truck, right? I mean, in some cases, maybe, I don't know.

00:34:33.120 --> 00:34:35.679
Yeah. No, for sure. I mean, I've watched videos.

00:34:37.439 --> 00:34:41.760
But the reason I'm going with this is like the time preference thing is interesting because

00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:46.239
that's where you get a lot of the pushback on the tariffs. Like the low time preference would say,

00:34:47.520 --> 00:34:51.280
we're going to wait it out. We're going to be courageous about this. We're not going to back

00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:56.399
down. We're going to have a backbone about the way we've been treated and stand up for ourselves,

00:34:56.399 --> 00:35:02.320
right? That's going to be our low time preference posture. The high time preference posture is like

00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:09.760
panic. It's time to panic. Like the markets are crashing. Everything is like this is the end of

00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:15.600
the world. All the people, all the manufacturing is never going to come back. We're never going

00:35:15.600 --> 00:35:20.959
to see it ever again, right? It's just, no, that's ultra high time preference. It completely fails to

00:35:20.959 --> 00:35:25.600
understand the game theory. It fails to understand the technology and fail to understand

00:35:25.600 --> 00:35:31.199
supply chains, like the whole thing. No, you have to give it time. Maybe it's going to be a big mess

00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:40.560
failure. I don't know. We're definitely at maximum uncertainty right now. But you can't bet against

00:35:40.560 --> 00:35:50.080
American culture of entrepreneurism and self-made and we're figured out problem solving individualism,

00:35:50.080 --> 00:35:56.639
rugged individualism, like probably betting against that is just, it's going to, it's not

00:35:56.639 --> 00:36:00.879
going to work out most of the time. So what are you going to take? You're going to take the low

00:36:00.879 --> 00:36:04.399
time preference or are you going to take the high time preference view on the tariff situation?

00:36:05.520 --> 00:36:14.479
Like, what are you going to do? I can't say, you know, I would love to say that the market

00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:22.080
just always goes up over the longterm. A giant dip like this is just an incredible opportunity.

00:36:22.080 --> 00:36:26.959
Go out and get a job. Sink all the money into the market. A year from now, you're going to look like

00:36:26.959 --> 00:36:33.520
a genius. I can't say that because I can't predict the future and I don't know how far things will go

00:36:33.520 --> 00:36:39.439
down. You know, could the market continue to dip for another year and drop 50%? I don't know.

00:36:39.439 --> 00:36:46.879
Anything's possible. I tend to think it probably is a pretty good opportunity. If you have money

00:36:46.879 --> 00:36:52.879
in cash to put it into really good stocks, if you see a stock that's dipped, but I'm not going to

00:36:52.879 --> 00:36:58.560
give anybody advice for that. When it comes to Bitcoin, I tend to believe that Bitcoin is going

00:36:58.560 --> 00:37:04.879
to a million. And as we see Bitcoin going down, it's an insane opportunity. My own particular

00:37:04.879 --> 00:37:13.919
strategy is to dollar cost average. And if you think that Bitcoin is one of the most scarce

00:37:13.919 --> 00:37:20.479
assets to ever exist, and you see the price going down and your strategy is to dollar cost average

00:37:20.479 --> 00:37:25.840
and your time preference is years, you're just getting more Bitcoin as time goes by, if the

00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:33.199
price is going down and people just don't understand how valuable Bitcoin is. Now, as far as what

00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:43.520
will, what should happen and will happen, like I said before, what will happen is that the Federal

00:37:43.520 --> 00:37:51.760
Reserve is going to do quantitative easing. The markets are going, have tanked. They are, and

00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:55.199
even if the markets didn't tank, they're going to do this at some point. They're going to print

00:37:55.199 --> 00:38:02.639
money. When money is printed, it goes into the market and goes up by a multiple. And we have

00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:09.439
enough history of Bitcoin to know that when money is printed, it goes harder into Bitcoin because

00:38:09.439 --> 00:38:15.360
there are enough people out there who know, who really know how scarce of an asset Bitcoin is.

00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:23.120
And it is going to go up like crazy when they turn the money printer on. And so if you have

00:38:23.120 --> 00:38:30.320
the ability to get more of it now, and the prices are suppressed because of all this chaos in the

00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:37.439
markets, it stands to reason that it is a really good time, if your time preference is long enough,

00:38:37.439 --> 00:38:43.360
to get as much Bitcoin as you can right now, because they're guaranteed going to turn the

00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:50.399
money printer on and inflation is going to run hot again. Yep. And on top of that, you can like,

00:38:51.120 --> 00:38:55.280
we don't, oh, we don't know if it's going to go up or down. Like, bro, it's going to go up because

00:38:55.280 --> 00:39:01.360
they have to print money. Like, there's a chart that I've been sharing on socials for a couple

00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:10.000
weeks now, because it's just completely ridiculous, which is M1, or it's a S&P divided by M1 or M0,

00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:16.560
which is base money for U.S. base money. Like, what's the balance sheet for the Fed? Like,

00:39:16.560 --> 00:39:23.120
what's the base money, right? Divide that by the S&P 500 or switch that around.

00:39:23.520 --> 00:39:30.639
But what it tells you is, if you were to denominate all of the growth in the S&P 500

00:39:30.959 --> 00:39:41.760
for the last 80 years in M1 or M0, like, units, you see, at the end of the day, you see

00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:47.520
that the entire economy, despite everything we've built, despite everything we've done,

00:39:47.520 --> 00:39:55.679
everything we've done has lost 7% of its value. Now, the interpretation there is that,

00:39:57.120 --> 00:40:02.719
where'd all the value go? Well, one, no value was actually created. It's all just been skimmed off

00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:11.760
the top via inflation, period. Two, what are they going to do? They're going to print, because

00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:17.439
that's the only solution that exists in the legacy environment. That's the only thing they

00:40:17.439 --> 00:40:25.919
can do. It's been the playbook for the last 80 years. It's just so tired. Everyone knows it's

00:40:25.919 --> 00:40:31.120
going to happen. They're going to print, the market's going to rally. None of it's real.

00:40:31.120 --> 00:40:37.040
It's all fake. And once, to your point, once everyone figured out that it's all fake,

00:40:37.600 --> 00:40:41.280
all the money basically just goes to Bitcoin, because it's the only thing that's real.

00:40:42.080 --> 00:40:48.000
Yeah, I went and got a burrito this morning at a place. They used to be cash only. And

00:40:49.600 --> 00:40:54.000
now they do accept credit cards, and they charge you a fee for that. But I'm in the mindset of

00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:58.479
paying cash. I had some cash in my wallet. And so I bought a burrito. When I started buying

00:40:58.479 --> 00:41:04.080
burritos at this place, by the way, they were under $8. And this one was $12.02.

00:41:04.560 --> 00:41:13.360
I don't know why, but the guy gave me $0.98 change. So I gave him $0.20, he gave me $0.05,

00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:21.360
$0.01, and $0.98. And so I'm holding the change in my hand. And all of the coins were the new

00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:27.120
quarters and the new nickels are the ones that I saw. If you have some of this, for anybody

00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:33.840
listening, hold the new quarters and the new nickels in your hand, and you can physically

00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:41.439
look at them. And they look like cheap trash. The fact that he even had that change is,

00:41:42.479 --> 00:41:48.879
it was like I traveled back in time, first of all, to be being handed change. Why not just round to

00:41:48.879 --> 00:41:54.479
the dollar at this point? Like, yeah, there's, there's literally no point in counting the change

00:41:54.959 --> 00:41:59.760
there's, there's literally no point in counting cents anymore, because inflation has taken all

00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:04.560
the value out of those coins. But you can literally physically see that the value has

00:42:04.560 --> 00:42:11.840
been sucked out the coins themselves have been debased. Yep. And a lot of people don't realize

00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:20.159
that yet. Yep. What this I mean, we can probably close on this point. But the idea that all of this

00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:24.879
is real. Oh, it's like the market crash. Oh my goodness. What are we going to do? Everybody

00:42:24.879 --> 00:42:29.919
panic. It's just like, bro, no, just go buy Bitcoin. Get your head right. Like think on a

00:42:29.919 --> 00:42:37.040
long term timeframe. All of it's like the entire legacy economy is just smoke and mirrors ridiculous.

00:42:37.040 --> 00:42:44.000
It's like literally a game that doesn't matter. And you just have to check out of that once you

00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:48.320
check out of that game, then you're checking into the real world. You actually have real

00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:54.639
currency in the real world, which is Bitcoin. And it's actually tied to reality. And the

00:42:54.639 --> 00:43:00.320
consequences there is that your actual wealth is actually stored and you have all of these other

00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:08.639
benefits of having a real functioning economy, not the clown world economy, which is in panic

00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:15.439
mode, apparently today, dude, drop panic mode, it just by Bitcoin, and you're like, easy sailing,

00:43:15.439 --> 00:43:23.199
like, this is fine. We're good to go. It's good, man. Yeah. 100 years ago, you could save

00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:30.879
bills, you could save dollar bills for a long time. And they roughly held their value,

00:43:30.879 --> 00:43:36.639
you could even put them in the bank. And you could get a little bit of interest. And you could get a

00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:42.639
little more stuff over time. That that time has passed. I showed you earlier, one of those apps

00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:49.360
that's it's for women. It's a soap opera thing where you watch these 15 to 30 second videos,

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and they kind of get you hooked. I say you but it's specifically to women because these things

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are, they're the most insane storylines and they're like these romance things. And so it

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shows you and I just did this to test it because I'm interested in the short form filmmaking,

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but it shows you a few of them. And then at a certain point, you have to pay to see more of

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them. But you pay with tokens on the app. And so you get 50 tokens for free when you have the app.

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And you have to spend them and to get more tokens, you have to pay dollars to get the tokens. So

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let's say that you're really into this app. And you have these tokens, and you haven't looked at

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the app for a while. Well, you can get back on the app and use the tokens. But is that a store of

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value? Are these tokens a store of value? No, they're only a store of value for that thing that

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you want to watch for as long as this app exists. And as long as you care about this app. I'm trying

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to make an analogy to that is what dollars are now. Dollars are the tokens. Bitcoin is the money.

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So you want to exchange the tokens for the money, which is Bitcoin and do it quickly.

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That reminds me of the famous meme, which is me trading my cold cat or Cole's cash for Bitcoin.

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Colorized. It's like me trading my cold cash for real short 50 points. It's just it's all

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it's all game money. It's not real. None of it's real. It's not real. And we're being forced to

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gamble it into things like the stock market. And look what just happened. And, and do this,

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go into your little your app on your iPhone for the stock market, this thing, and then go to bit

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go to BTC USB and go to the one year and you look at it and you're like, okay, 15% growth, go to the

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two year 186% growth, go to the five year 1000% growth, go to the 10 year 33,800% growth. Now do

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the same thing with the S&P. And you go to the one year and you're like, oh, it's down 3%. And

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the two year, okay, up 23%. Let's go to the 10 year up 140%. Bitcoin was up 33,000% over the last

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10 years. So here we are, people are gambling on the stock market. And they could just be buying

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Bitcoin. And it'd be just gonna lower those time preferences. Yeah, lower this time preferences.

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All right, guys, we should wrap it up. Anton, thanks for jumping in.

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You got it.

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And we'll see you next time.

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By Bitcoin.

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Better, better by Bitcoin.

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Better.

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By Bitcoin.