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You're listening to The Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun, in
practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome

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to the Bible Guys another episode.
My name is Chris, this is Jeff,

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and we are here today bringing you
the story of Moses, bringing it

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in a series that we're calling what
Highlights of the Old Testament. That sounds

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good to be milestones, milestones,
posts, big events. Yes. So

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anyway, before we get to that, Desiree has asked us to pause from

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our normal fun games and to highlight
where are our listeners from. Well,

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there you go, and this is
fun. People listen from all around the

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world. Yes, this is amazing
to me. It is amazing, And

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so she writes, it's so fun
to see where our listeners are from.

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Today, we're going to highlight some
of our listeners by stating fun facts about

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their location. These are the funnest. Yes, we recently talked about how

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we are listening to around the world, so today we're to highlight a whole

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It says a whole country, but
that's not true. That's not true.

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Today. This is a whole city. This is a whole city, all

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right here we go. The city
has the largest and most diverse collection of

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ice age fossils in the world.
I had no idea. I had no

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idea either. Wow. Wow,
Okay, this is the city is the

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birthplace of the Internet. Ooh,
I bet you those who live there know.

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Oh my god, that's a big
deal. That's a big one.

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Yeah, just a little thing called
the internet, right right. Number three.

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Their residents spend over one hundred hours
in traffic on average each year.

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Yuck, yuck. Yeah, everybody, I think everybody knows how this one's

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gross. Yes, yes, the
city is home to the only solar powered

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ferris wheel. Okay, all right, okay, little known fact there must

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be so proud. Okay, all
right. So it works when the sun's

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out right, and the sun's always
out of this because it's it is Los

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Angeles, California. Hey La,
Yeah, so thank you whoever's listening for

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LA from LA, thank you.
Yeah. And I didn't know there were

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any Christians in La. Oh stop
stop, I'm joking. No, I'm

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joking. Oh no, I'm joking
the jeez. I was out to LA

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several times. Oh good for Yeah, have you ever been lots of times?

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Yes, yes, yes, it's
it's great. It's a great place

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to be, is it. But
it feels like a different world. Yeah,

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you don't like La? I hate
La, do you really? Yeah?

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I have several friends who live there. I love them. I hate

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everything about the city, you really? Yeah, I like it. I

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had never want to live there.
I had a free ticket yeah to I

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could, you know, take a
companion on Delta, And so I came

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towards the end of the year.
It was almost over, and I'd go

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to my daughter's sixteen and I said, hey, listen, I'll take you

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anywhere in the country. We'll spend
four days just you and me. It'd

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be like a daddy daughter trip.
Wherever you want to go. And I

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was just getting ready to say except
La, and she goes, I'm gonna

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go to La really? So we
went out. Yeah. Yeah, we

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had a nice time. It was
fun. It was fine. It's just

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everything is inconvenient, everything is stacked
on top of each other, and everything's

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too expensive. That's right, right. I would not want to live there

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because mainly because the traffic, the
weather way too hot, and it's the

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housing market is crazy. And but
there's lots of good people there, right,

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So I love the people, I
just don't like the place. So

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yeah, and so well, and
it's also so transient, he says the

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guy from just outside Detroit by the
way, So right right, so that's

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fixed volumes about about you know whatever. That's so funny. They were there,

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they'd be like, I'd rather live
in La than Detroit. I'm like,

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yep, probably, Hey, thank
you for listening. By the way,

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around the world, he's bored to
death with you are we have we

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have we do have people in a
lot of countries. We do. How

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how many countries would you say?
I don't know. Last time I counted

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those, like eighty eight countries have
tuned in? Hey did you know this?

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We we are we are charting right
top top podcasts in Hungry, Botswana

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and Indonesia. Wow. Yeah,
I mean we are killing it in those

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markets. That's that's true. It
is true. Wow. Yeah. So

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I thought that was a really amazing
thing for the you know, accomplishment for

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us. Well, I want to
do it now. I want to shout.

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I want to do a shout out
to people and Hungry, yeah,

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Hungry and Botswana and Botswana in Indonesia. Yeah, I mean, thank goodness

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that people are listens up with all
you people in Malawi though, right,

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come on, come on, get
with it. Thank you for listening for

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real. That's pretty, that's pretty. That's fantastic. Yeah. So I'm

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sorry if I said bad things about
LA and offended somebody. Now all of

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a sudden, there's like nobody listening
from LA anymore, if they're tuning out.

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What do you think about LA people? No, I said, I

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love the people like some of my
dearest friends love. I said, you

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don't think there's any Christians analogy?
Well, I know my friends. Wow,

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you know who? Five people among
you? Know who? You have

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a million? Yeah? No,
I'm joking. So today we're jumping into

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really we're establishing the fact that the
God's putting into motion his system. Right

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he says, he says, you
are my people, and if you obey

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me, then you'll be my special
people, and I'm gonna set up a

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tabernacle for you. And then he
creates this thing today that we're talking about

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called the Arc of the Covenant,
which is a wild, tangible box that

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God creates that is just unbelievable.
It represents so many things that will become

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so important for so many generations.
The whole thing is important up up until

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this point. Now, as we're
coming to Genesis twenty five. From Genesis

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twenty where he gives the Ten Commandments, to twenty five, he gives a

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bunch of other guidelines for how they're
supposed to be living. Right, So

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he talks about how to treat servants. There was slavery back then. It

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was always to pay off debts or
to pay off crimes. But even here,

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the sentences could only go seven years, right, stuff like that,

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So they work that out. He
goes through how to deal with personal injury.

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He deals with protection of property.
Right. I know it's not popular

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right now people think it's okay to
just trash property, But in the Bible

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times there was big consequences for ruining
property and other people's stuff. There's a

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lot of social responsibilities, how to
take care of people, how to manage

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your justice, all the things.
He sets up some festivals, and then

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God promises, as you follow these
things, I'll be with you. I'm

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going to be with you from start
to finish. And so then Israel goes,

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Okay, we accept this. This
is a contract between us and God.

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We're going to accept this contract.
And then God says, all right

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from there. Now that you've accepted
me as your God and you're accepting this

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contract that we have on how to
live your life, then God says,

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I want you to build a place
that kind of represents where I'm going to

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be with you. And so in
Exodus chapter twenty five, verse one,

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it says the Lord said to Moses, tell the people of Israel to bring

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me their sacred offerings. Accept the
contributions from all whose hearts are moved to

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offer them. Here's a list of
sacred offerings you may except from them.

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Gold, silver and bronze, blue, purple and scarlet thread, fine linen

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and goat hair for cloth, tanned
ramskins and fine goat skin, leather,

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acacia wood, olive oil for the
lamps, spices for the anointing oil,

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and the fragrant incense, Onyx stones
and other gemstones to be set in the

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ephod and the priests chest piece.
Have the people of Israel build me a

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holy sanctuary so I can live among
them. You must build this tabernacle and

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its furnishings exactly according to the pattern
I'll show you. And then he goes

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on. He starts telling them these
are all the things that go inside the

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tabernacle. And the first thing he
says that we'll go inside the tabernacle is

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the ark of the Covenant. He
says, Have the people make an arc

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of acacia wood, a sacred chest
forty five inches long, twenty seven inches

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wide and twenty seven inches high.
Overlay it inside and outside with pure gold,

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and run a molding of gold all
around it. Cast four gold rings

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and attach them to its four feet, two rings on each side. Make

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poles from acacia wood and overlay them
with gold. Insert the poles into the

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rings that the sides of the ark
to carry it. These carrying poles must

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stay inside the rings, never remove
them. When the arc is finished,

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placed inside it the stone tablets inscribed
with the terms of the covenant, which

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I will give to you. Then
make the arcs cover the place of atonement

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from pure gold. It must be
forty five inches long and twenty seven inches

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wide. Then make two cherubim from
hammered gold and place them on the two

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ends of the atonement cover. Mold
the cherubim on each end of the atonement

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cover, making it all one piece
of gold. The cherubim will face each

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other and look down on the atonement
cover with their wings spread above it.

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They will protect it. Place inside
the ark the stone tablets inscribed with the

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terms of the Covenant, which I
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atonement cover on top of the ark, and I will meet with you there

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and talk to you from above the
atonement cover between the gold cherubim that hover

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over the ark of the Covenant,
and from there I will give you my

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commands for the people of Israel.
And he goes on, and he has

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the table of presence and the lamp
stand, and the design and the layout

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of the tabernacle, and the altar
for the burnt offerings. God builds or

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designs for them, and the courtyards, and then he lays out the clothing

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for the priests, and the design
of the ephod and all those things.

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So all of this is about now, how how to begin communing with God

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regularly? Right? And so this
tabernacle will serve as where God dwells.

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Until really the three tabernacles that we
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that we were, were the three
places that God has addresses. Right is

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this, and then also Solomon's temple
and then the temple that is rebuilt,

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right right, that's right. And
temple, the Herod's temple, and so

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we have we have those, we
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of the three. And this one
wasn't made of stones or bricks. This

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would have been you know, made
out of cloth and and uh and so

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but thick, very very thick cloth. And they were and they were they

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had like just you know, there
was silver woven in there. There was

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all sorts of you know, thick
braided decorative cloth. This would have been

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extravagant to look at. And even
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temporary type material, it was it
was very sturdy, and it was

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magnificent and so uh it's you know
sometimes I've seen you know, drawings of

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it that that don't match, you
know when you when you read it,

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and you really, man, this
thing was extravagant, right, very extravagant.

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Yeah, stunningly beautiful. And God
says at the very beginning he's receiving

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offerings from people who are moved to
offer, right, so he goes,

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hey, gold and silver and bronze, we're gonna need all these things.

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Your finest linens, your finest threads, right, purple, red and blue

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and scarlet represented royalty, all the
finest leathers, the finest woods, Acacia

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wood is amazing, the finest oils, all those things, and the people

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willingly came and gave of their offerings
to God. And then God said,

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okay, take those and build this
magnificent place that has a certain amount of

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I don't know it's set aside as
holy, but it has this really spiritual

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Have you ever been like in a
cathedral? This designed to make you look

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up, you know, the European
cathedral builders designed things to cause you to

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look up, to make you realize
how small you are and how grand God

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is, and then oftentimes just stunningly
beautiful. I think that was the idea.

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It's not that the building itself was
God, but rather it represented where

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God was with the people. Yeah. I remember one time I went to

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Israel and we came on the I
think it was the Pool of Bethesda,

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I think, and there was you
know, in a lot of times,

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what happens. Does the Catholic Church, you know, declare a holy site

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than they would build cathedral And the
reason why is because they knew that once

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you build a church on a property, that it could never be you know,

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taken over by the government. Right, So there's all these churches on

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these holy sites just to protect them, which is just amazing that that's a

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great gift that the Church has given
to everybody. But anyway, we were

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in this massive, massive cathedral and
they just like you said, they had

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built this thing to where it's designed
to look up. But beyond that,

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they did it acoustically because you know
how much they were just masters of acoustics,

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weren't they back then. They just
knew how to build something to where

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somebody could stand in the center of
the room and talk, and all of

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a sudden it just reverberated throughout the
entire cathedral because they didn't have any sound

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systems or anything like that. So
anyway, we're there, and you know

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how it is, there's people from
all over the world. I bet you

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there was one hundred and fifty people
at this one holy site, and we

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probably represented thirty to forty languages,
right, I mean, everybody who just

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was in twosies and three zis of
every country of the world. You know,

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nobody speaks you know her in the
English or whatever. And so we're

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in this chapel and all of a
sudden this girl who was with us on

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our trip. She was one of
one of the most beautiful singers that we

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had. She sang on the big
stage, right, and she was just

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amazing. She would beld it out
and everything else. Anyways, all of

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a sudden, she stands in the
center and all by herself. She's in

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the chape all by herself. All
of a sudden, she starts singing,

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Ah, they MORI right, and
this is a universal song, and she

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knows the whole song because she sang
the whole song all of a sudden.

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I'm not even kidding. I bet
you one hundred people floked into this church

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and just had a seat. It
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seat and they're just listening, and
everything quieted down, and she's standing there

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with her eyes closed and she's listening
to her own acoustics. Right. She

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opens her eyes about halfwa through the
song, realizing she now has one hundred

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people gathered listening. So she continues
to sing, but she only knows the

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one song, right, so every
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she doesn't know what else to do. She's like, I don't know what

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else to sing, So that she
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was beautiful anyway. It was just
a story that almost had nothing to do

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with anything. Well, just beautiful, right, So that's the idea.

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Here is a little bit of beauty
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begins to set up all these tools, And man, I wish we had

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the time to really dig into the
Tabernacle. We should come back and do

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a Tabernacle series. Yeah, because
every element in the Tabernacle represents some points

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to Gesus. Yeah, that'd be
cool, that would be fun, and

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it'd be like a mini series.
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it helps you understand the law better. We're not going to spend a ton

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of time in the levitical law,
but it would help understand the law better

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if you understood all the different pieces
in the Tabernacle that eventually were transferred into

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the Temple. But particularly this arc
of the Covenant. I mean, we've

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all seen Indiana Jones, so I
believe it or not, the design of

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the Ark of the Covenant India Jones
is pretty close. It is. It's

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pretty close to what the arc would
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be the biggest difference is the angels
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says that the bent over bent over
it so very specifically says bent over.

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But there's if you remember, they
had like the straight their wings were straight

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as an arrow straight. Yeah,
and they weren't necessarily they were tilted down,

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were they? Yeah? Okay,
all right? But yeah, So

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anyways, the Ark of the Covenant
and the Indiana Jones thing is kind of

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you have an image in your mind
of this thing. So it wasn't very

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big. It's twenty seven inches by
twenty seven inches by forty five inches right,

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right, So it's it's just over
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wide, so it's not very big, yeah, and then just at just

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under four feet, right, So
it's a narrow box. So the scale

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of the Indiana Jones one might have
been off just a little bit on that,

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but it's it's it would have been
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what it would have been, right, And so four feet is yeah,

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I mean yeah, but it only
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two feet yeah, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, so it

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wouldn't have been very big. But
anyways, the covered in Gold has got

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these angels on there, and then
it keeps talking about this atonement cover.

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You and I would have learned it
as the mercy seat, right, and

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this represented where God, the presence
of God would be, and this is

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also the place where the atonement,
sacrifice for atonement would be poured out,

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would be on this mercy seat place. And it represented the fact that sins

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could be covered by blood. Without
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forgiveness of sins, and so the
priests would come in and pour out this

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one offering every year to atone for
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whole year. And so it really
represents even more than just this. Really,

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you know, people think of it
as a magic box. It'st it

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has inside, it has the we
didn't even talk about this, but Aaron's

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rod that flowered, and then it
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there's going to be this man man. This hasn't happened yet, but it's

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going to be in there. And
God laid all these things out to a

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little bit of trivia. That's the
only thing mentioned tangible that's in heaven from

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Earth. Well, well, no, the Ark of the Covenant and its

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contents are the only thing that is
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existed on Earth except people, well, tangible yeah, items, items.

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I was referring to things. Oh
I see yeah yeah yeah yeah. God

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liked it so much he took it
to heaven. Yeah. It reminds me

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of that joke. Can I tell
it? Certainly? Okay. So the

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guy dies he's super wealthy, goes
to heaven and and he begs Peter and

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says, you know, well,
sorry, Peter's a the parlegates, right,

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and that's every joke. And he
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hey, id a request. He
says, I was so rich in Heaven

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that on earth. He goes,
I want to go back down. I

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want to take something with me,
and Peter says no, no, no,

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no no. He goes, everybody
knows you can't take anything with you

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in heaven, and he goes,
oh please, oh please, so please.

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He made such a fuss that Peter
says, fine, I'll go talk

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to the boss. Comes back and
says, okay. He goes, this

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is the first time in history that
God's done this. But he says,

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you can go back, and He's
given you one suitcase and you can fit

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anything you want as long as if
fits in this one suitcase and bring it

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back. And the guy's like so
excited, So he sends it back to

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Earth, and the guy doesn't know
what to do, so he decides to

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liquidate everything that he has and he
turns into gold bars and he stacks it

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into you know, it just brings
gold back into heaven. But he realizes

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as he's packing it in that there's
spaces between the gold bars, and he's

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so greedy that he eventually grinds all
the gold down to gold bullion and just

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so there's no spaces whatsoever, and
he packs the suitcase with gold bullion,

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so there's not even not even a
space that isn't gold bullion, closes it

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up and brings it into Heaven and
drags it as it's really heavy, and

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all of a sudden, at this
time, it's not just Peter, it's

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it's everybody, and they're there and
they're so ex because this is historic,

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right, and he says, man, we can't believe that you bring something

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to heaven. You've created such a
fuss. So he drags it all the

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way up and he says, I
can't wait to see what's inside. And

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so the guy clicks it open.
He says, oh, wait, do

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you see this man? You've never
seen anything like this. And the guy

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pops it open, you know,
and every he looks down and Peter glances

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and says, you brought pavement.
So the arc of the Covenant, and

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then it goes on to lampstand the
table of Presence, and all of these

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elements represents specific things in the way
that God is interacting with his people,

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Representing how God gives light, representing
the food that God provides, representing all

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these things. And then there's these
altars. There's the clothing for the priest

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and the epod that he's wearing,
and the chest piece that he's going to

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wear, and all of these elements
so that the people would have an understanding

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that they're dealing with the Holy God
and that God is set apart from them,

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and that our sin separates us from
God. That's a part of that.

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But through sacrifice and then ultimately through
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innocent lamb on this mercy seat,
on this this this uh what what what's

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what's the title? Atonement cover that
because of that, God will be with

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his people and God offers to bless
his people as they choose to obey him

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and follow his commands. Right,
But the possibility of having this connection with

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him was not because of the the
law. It was because of the sacrifice,

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the innocent one sacrificing for the guilty. And so that's what they do,

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is they would pour it out here
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it would atone for the sins of
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even the placement within the tabernacle is
important as well, because it was it

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was located in the very center,
right, and and and so God existed

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in the epicenter of the tabernacle,
and not all of that. But then

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he sets forth forth laws that only
certain people can enter into the presence of

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of where the the ark of the
Covenant was. Right, so the Holy

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of Holies becomes, uh, you
know the room in Solomon's temple that is

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not only in the very center of
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also on the third level. So
there's actually like levels you know that that

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that are down below on the outer
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the next level, it goes up
slightly and then you get to the Holy

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Holies and it's on the third third
floor, So it's it's interesting how it's

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so symbolic everything about it and the
rules of who's allowed closest to God's presence.

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Everything was was was because of sin, because of God's holiness. So

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you had you had the courts right
where there there would be places where people

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could who were not Israelites Hebrews that
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But then the Israelites or the Hebrews
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Then from there there'd be the Holy
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can work. And then there'd be
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where the arc of the Covenant would
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and this is where they would only
go and they had a huge thick curtain

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and they could only go in one
time a year, and they'd tie a

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rope around their foot. They had
bells on the bottoms of their thing just

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in case they died because they hadn't
gone through the purification process right or something,

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and they could pull him out rather
than have to go in and get

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them. So it was a big
deal because if he died without a rope,

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then how do we get him out. How do we get him out

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because somebody's alloed in. Yeah,
So it's really really fascinating stuff. I

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just encourage you go ahead and read
through it. There's several really good books

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on the idea of the tabernaclin what
that's all about. But just ultimately know

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God's desire, even in the midst
of our sin, is to have a

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relationship with us. And this was
his way of initiating a relationship in his

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presence with an entire nation of people. Now he desires an an intimate personal

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relationship with you. And the Bible
says, now, because of what Jesus

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did on the Cross, that that
veil between us and the Holy of Holies

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is torn apart, and that we
can go boldly before the Throne of Grace.

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Right, the throne of grace,
this covering of atonement, it's the

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same thing. Right, we can
go boldly before the Throne of Grace to

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God with our requests and our needs. And He wants to have a relationship

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with us. But this is the
beginning of God instituting with an entire nation.

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I want a relationship with you,
and there's an appropriate way to do

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it. And he's very specific I
mean, it's dozens and dozens and dozens

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of pages about the specifics of how
to approach him, and it's just an

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indicator of the fact that we don't
create our own way to God. God

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makes a way to Him that's right
for us, right, got establish all

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of that, that's right. Yeah, Well, hey, that is our

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time, and so that's a good
place to end. So we will continue

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on next time. Hopefully you'll join
us on the Bible. Guys,