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Hello and welcome to Pickleball Therapy,

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the podcast dedicated to your Pickleball improvement.

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It's a podcast with you in mind.

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My name is Tony Roig.

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I am your host of this weekly podcast,

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which is dedicated to helping you navigate Pickleball from the mental

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side of the game of the sport.

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And in this week's podcast,

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we're gonna do that by talking about the difference between learning

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how to pick a ball and learning how to do every

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single shot and from every single spot on the court at

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every possible time that you're playing.

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Before we jump into the podcast,

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I need you to bear with me,

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and this will become relevant in a little bit,

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but just bear with me here.

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I'm gonna read to you a series of ingredients,

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two cups,

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all-purpose flour,

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two cups of sugar,

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threequarter, cup of cocoa,

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two teaspoons of baking powder,

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one and a half teaspoons of baking soda,

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one teaspoon salt,

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one teaspoon espresso powder,

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one cup of milk,

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half cup of oil,

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two eggs,

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two teaspoons of vanilla,

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and one cup of water.

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So remember that recipe,

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and I'm gonna come back to it in a little bit.

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Before we jump into the podcast itself,

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I want you to be on the lookout for our upcoming

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Because part of this process is figuring out where you are

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But email is the best way to do it.

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Alright, so there's a a,

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there's a,

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a, a young lady who recently published a baking book.

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Don't worry,

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we're gonna get the Pickleball in second,

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how to Pickleball.

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But let's talk about baking first.

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'cause it's really,

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it's sometimes helpful to learn these things through metaphor slash analogies.

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So this young young lady published a book on how to

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bake. She's received a lot of pushback on the,

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I don't wanna say a lot,

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but she's received enough pushback that she's been,

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you know,

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addressing the comments and things like that in subsequent videos.

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And the pushback is this,

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basically it's there,

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there folks who have bought this book on how to bake

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that are complaining that there was no recipes,

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at least not the way that they expected the recipes to

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be written out in that how to bake book.

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And what they were looking for is they were looking for

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a recipe book,

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not a book on how to bake,

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you know,

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the, the principles of baking,

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the framework of baking,

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the concepts of baking.

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They want to just recipes similar to what the recipe I

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read to you earlier,

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right? And the recipe I read to you earlier is actually,

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it looks really good.

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I might make it one day,

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but it's a chocolate cake recipe,

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claims to be the best chocolate cake.

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It's got really good reviews and it does sound like a

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very, very nice cake.

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But here,

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here's the thing.

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Let's assume that you wanted to learn how to bake and

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you were doing it as a recipe rememberer,

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I would ask you to recite back to me the recipe

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ingredients that I read to you.

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You probably remember a few of them,

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like flour and maybe eggs,

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milk, things like that.

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But you need to know the,

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all of the ingredients,

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and you need to know the quantities of those ingredients in

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order to make the recipe correctly.

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So if you're gonna use a recipe approach,

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you would need to have the recipe in front of you

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in order to be able to bake that cake,

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right? And I don't know if you use recipes like that.

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I do,

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when I use a recipe,

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I have to look back at the recipe probably four or

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five times while I'm working just to make sure I covered

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everything and look at the steps and things like that.

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So, you know,

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even if I'm working on it in the moment and I've

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just read the recipe and I,

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and I'm gonna put it together,

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I still need to double check myself.

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Like for instance,

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this recipe has two tablespoons,

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or sorry,

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two teaspoons of baking powder,

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one and a half teaspoons of baking soda.

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So when you go to do it,

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you'll be like,

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which one was two teaspoons?

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And how much was it baking soda or baking powder?

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so those kind of things are,

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it's hard to remember all that,

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right? And as you're putting together the recipe,

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now imagine if instead of using a recipe approach,

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you actually learned how to bake,

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which is what this other book that I've mentioned to you

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is teaching.

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So if you learn how to bake,

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you would be able to put together a,

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a cake recipe,

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right? Any kind of cake recipe because of your knowledge of

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the ingredients that are in your cupboard.

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So you would know,

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okay, lemme get my flour.

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And you would know the difference between flour,

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between cake flour,

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all purpose flour,

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bread flour,

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things like that.

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You would understand that one has a little more protein is

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made for this cake powder,

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I'm sorry,

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cake flour is made for cakes,

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right? So it's,

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it's a little looser at the end.

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It doesn't have as much protein,

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so it doesn't gluten,

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gluten, ice like bread flour does.

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But you would understand all that.

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And then you'd be able to pull down ingredients,

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your sugar and your baking powder and baking soda.

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You'd understand the difference between the two.

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And depending on what you were trying to accomplish with the

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cake, did you want a,

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you know,

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did you want a dense kind of a cake,

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sort of like a breakfast kind of a,

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a cake?

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Or did you want something super spongy?

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Then you could add ingredients based on those,

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on your knowledge of baking as opposed to simply following a

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recipe. Because here's the thing,

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like you follow a recipe and it's fine.

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There's nothing wrong with it.

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I mean,

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you follow a recipe,

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you come out with a nice dish and okay,

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that feels good.

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But my experience in,

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in the kitchen has been,

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it's, I feel much more fulfilled when I know what I'm

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working with.

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In other words,

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when I know the process that I'm engaging in,

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I understand how the ingredients work together.

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I understand if I,

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you know,

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I can make variations of the recipe and my choosing because

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I know how the ingredients work.

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I, I,

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I would suggest to you that,

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or submit to you that that is a more fulfilling interaction

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with the process of baking than just following recipes rote,

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right? Just basically following recipes.

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Now, let's take that concept and let's,

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let's switch over to Pickleball Now,

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using the same method,

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same framing,

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right, same understanding.

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So let me,

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let me,

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let me run down another list with you and bear with

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me on this one as well.

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So we're gonna put our left leg at two 80.

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These are made up numbers.

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Don't literally write these down and try and follow it.

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So left leg at two 80,

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right leg at one 70,

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knees at 165 degrees.

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Let's do a six degree shoulder tilt paddle.

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Let's set the paddle at 97 degrees open to the court,

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and we can keep going on this,

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you know,

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again, and,

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you know,

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swing the paddle at,

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you know,

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at 22 miles per hour up through a completion arc of,

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you know,

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of so many tangents and things like that.

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So many degrees.

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And so that would be a third shot,

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drop hit from two feet inside the baseline,

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four feet to the left of the right sideline example,

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right? So that would be a very specific way of hitting

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a very specific shot into,

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and also into a very specific spot,

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right? That,

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that, and that would result in the ball landing around the

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center line on the opposite NVC,

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you know,

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near the,

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the opposite non volley zone of the court.

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So you can see how that we could come up with

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a recipe for every single shot that you want to hit

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when you're playing,

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you know,

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a third shot drop from this position versus a third shot

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drop from that position.

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Now, we'd have to change the recipe,

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right? We'd have to change our foot position,

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perhaps our knee position,

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perhaps our paddle angle,

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perhaps our follow through,

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perhaps the amount of energy that goes into the ball.

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So all of those components would have to change depending on

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where we're at on the court,

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depending on how hard the ball has hit our way,

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depending on the type of shot we're trying to accomplish.

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I mean,

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are we trying to hit a cross court third shot,

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a straight third shot?

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Are we trying to lobb it from there?

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are we trying to drive it at them?

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All those,

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we require different recipe cards,

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right? And so if we take a recipe approach to our

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Pickleball, we end up having to remember that it's two teaspoons

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of, I'll probably get this backward,

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but two teaspoons of baking soda,

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no baking powder,

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two teaspoons of baking powder,

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and one and a half teaspoons of baking soda.

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I think.

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you'd have to remember that,

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right? So you'd have to remember it's the left leg at

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two 80 and the right leg at one 70 and not

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the other way around.

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And it's just a very limiting way to develop your skills

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as a Pickleball player.

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we end up getting mired down in that level of recipe

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detail for different shots that we're trying to hit.

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What we recommend is,

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instead of,

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instead of trying to remember the details for every single shot

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that we're trying to hit,

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is to take a bigger picture.

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Because one of the other limitations,

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in addition I to remember everything,

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is that even if you learn how to hit one particular

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shot, right,

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what happens is the minute you move two feet to the

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left or three feet back,

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or you know,

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one foot forward,

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whatever it is,

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the shot breaks down because the shot you're hitting is may

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work exactly from that spot,

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but the minute that that something changes or different ball sent

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your way,

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right? So a ball with spin,

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for instance,

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or, or a lower harder or dink to your feet or

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something like that,

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you're not sure how to react because you don't have a

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recipe in your mind for that particular situation.

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So instead of approaching it from a recipe standpoint,

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think about learning how to Pickleball,

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right? So instead of like,

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how to bake,

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how to Pickleball.

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So instead of,

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of, of trying to learn,

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again, a recipe for every particular situation out there,

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if you start,

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if you step back from it,

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right? And say,

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you know what,

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let me look at Pickleball from a macro,

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right? Let me step back from Pickleball and let me evaluate

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the sport.

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Big picture.

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Let me understand what's going on on the court in terms

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of the structure of this game.

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Let me understand how the rules interplay with,

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with what I'm trying to accomplish.

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Lemme see if I can be clear on my objectives when

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I play.

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Let me have an understanding of how the mechanics work.

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In other words,

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what are the different pieces of every shot that I hit,

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whether it's a volley a ground stroke,

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a dink a drive,

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they're all just com,

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they all have com,

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the same components.

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It's just different variations of it,

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right? So going back to the baking analogy,

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all of those shots have a certain amount of flour,

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a certain amount of water,

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a certain amount of eggs,

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and things like that.

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The end result is very different,

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right? You know,

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sometimes you have a chocolate cake,

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sometimes you'll have a,

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you know,

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a pound cake.

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Sometimes you may end up with a,

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you know,

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like a breakfast,

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a crust for like a quiche or something,

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or a quiche even.

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So, you know,

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you, you end up with all sorts of different recipes based

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on how you inter intermingle these ingredients.

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How you different amounts and different relationships between the ingredients.

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But all the shots have the same basic ingredients because at

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the end of the day,

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it's you and a paddle directing a ball and you know,

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over the net to,

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towards the other side of the court in some sort of

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a, a manner,

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right? And so if you understand how those ingredients come together

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on the Pickleball court,

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you can then start playing around with your shots and start

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understanding, okay,

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I'm gonna start trying this and see how that works.

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And then,

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okay, that worked pretty well,

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let me keep doing that.

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Or No,

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that didn't work so well.

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What do I need to do to fix it?

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Right? What,

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what ingredient is it missing,

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right? Is it missing?

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Maybe I need another egg in there,

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or maybe I need some,

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some more sugar,

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whatever. It's,

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and so,

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you know,

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if you have an understanding of the mechanics of Pickleball that

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way, the strategy of Pickleball,

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the strategy of Pickleball is another area where we get bogged

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down on recipes,

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right? Because we want to know,

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okay, what exactly should I do when I'm playing two players

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who play like this?

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Okay? And then all,

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you know,

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so you have this idea like,

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I'm gonna hit the ball here.

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And then the very next game,

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all of a sudden you're facing like a,

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you know,

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they, they throw in a different kind of player,

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or you're play playing a lefty right ear,

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or you're playing some other combination and your strategy,

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you know,

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goes to hell in a hand basket because you're not sure

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what to do.

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Now, again,

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if you have an understanding of your objectives,

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understanding how the game is played,

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if you,

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if you learn to Pickleball,

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then you can make those adjustments on the fly as you

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go. You can set your oven at 3 75 instead of

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three 50 because 3 75 is burning it or whatever it

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is that's happening on the court.

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You can make that adjustment as you play.

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So as you think about your Pickleball,

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think about taking a bigger approach,

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right? A,

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a bigger cut at at,

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if you will.

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And I mentioned the workshops earlier that we have coming up.

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That's the way that we teach Pickleball.

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So in the workshops,

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you know,

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we're going to,

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we're gonna start with a framework.

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You know,

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the first workshop you're gonna come to is a framework of,

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of, of our instruction.

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And then the next class,

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next workshop,

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we're gonna teach you the specifics,

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right? So we're going from general to specific.

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And then the third one,

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we're gonna give you,

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give you a specific action plan based on what your assessment

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is. Remember I mentioned the tool to get your assessment done.

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So that's the process that we follow in all of our

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teachings, including inside the Pickleball system.

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At the end of the workshops,

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you'll be,

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have an opportunity to see what the system's about.

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You'll hear about our new class opening,

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and then you can make a decision whether it's right for

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you and if it's,

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if, if,

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if you wanna learn to Pickleball,

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I can't recommend,

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you know,

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our, our way of teaching enough to you because we do

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get some pushback just like this gal on the,

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on the in her book did.

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Because players want shortcuts.

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They want the recipe.

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The problem is the recipe A is hard to remember the

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details like that,

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right? When you're out there in the real,

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real world playing,

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and B,

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the details for every shot,

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I should say,

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and B,

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it doesn't account,

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it's impossible to think of every possible combination of variables that

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you may face while you're playing.

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So if you,

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if you learn to Pickleball,

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you will avoid the pitfalls of the recipe approach to your

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Pickleball game.

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If you wanna know a little bit more about this concept

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of how learning to Pickleball will impact your game,

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we did a podcast,

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it might have been a week or two ago now,

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depending on when this one publishes,

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that talks about inputs and outputs.

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It's called Baking Your Pickleball,

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your Chocolate Pickleball Cake.

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And so if you haven't had a chance to listen to

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that podcast,

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recommend it to you because you have a,

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again, a bigger picture of how you know the output that

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you want is controlled by the inputs that you need to

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get to that output.

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And so learning how to pick a ball will help you

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gain the knowledge you need to in order to come up

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with the right inputs so that you get the outputs you

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want when you're playing.

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That's this week's podcast.

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I help you enjoyed it.

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As always,

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please consider rating and reviewing it.

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And I would say even more importantly,

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share with your friends because if you enjoyed the podcast,

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they probably will too.

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I'll be,

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have a great week and I'll see you the next podcast.