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You're listening to The Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun in practical
ways. Hey, good morning, Jess.

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Yeah, Hey, how about we
talk about the Bible today. Let

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me think something. Let's try something
different. Okay, let's I'm trying to

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make a joke. Dang it,
it didn't work. Yeah, no,

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I mean, but how can you
How could you make it? You know,

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you're usually trying to make jokes.
Well, how could you make a

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joke about saying let's not talk about
the Bible on the podcast card? You

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know? The So? Yeah,
yeah, so I agree, let's talk

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about the Bible. Okay, great, but before we do that, Yes,

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let's do a segment called Who's most
likely? Dun dun d And by

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the way, I haven't read these
yet. Have you read it? No,

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I've not even glanced at them.
However, I do have a feeling

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that I think I think this is
true. Most of the time, we're

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in agreement on this. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah,

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here we go. Ye, who's
most likely to win their March Madness bracket?

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That would definitely be you. It's
me. Yeah. Let's let's tell

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ever, pretty why because I'm a
winner, No, because I did.

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I have won the Office bracket a
couple of times, and then my wife

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won it one time. Because I
loathe basketball. That's right. You load

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loath basketball and basketball in general.
You hate basketball. I do not like

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basketball barely a Christian yep. Okay, So yeah, March Madness bracket.

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I've now. By the way,
did I tell you that as a youth

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pastor, I tried. I had
somebody train me because I thought I cannot

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be successful as a youth pastor without
being good at basketball. So I went

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to like I went to, I
grabbed somebody and said, please mentor me.

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I must like basketball, and I
forced myself. And then at the

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end of months and months of me
trying to become a basketball player, I

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decided that I would surround myself with
basketball players so that my youth group could

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have basketball be a part of its
culture. And I decided to abandon that

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whole track. But you're not a
so then did you just run around like

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in the ref jersey or something.
I just walked around shaking hands. I

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would say basketball is one of those
things you have to start when you're young,

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and I did, I mean very
young, and probably a couple of

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months. Isn't gonna get you at
the level where you're gonna be able to

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capture you attention to teenagers. Well, I just wanted to like it.

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Yeah, oh, you just wanted
to like it. I just wanted to

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be able to hang right, and
I'll play well, just be able to

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hang. Well, March Madness,
you're going down this year. So I

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was giving floor seats to the Atlanta
Hawks game. Huh, and my feet

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are on the floor and I'm literally
right behind the players. And about midway,

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I was like, I'm bored,
Let's go home. I just wow,

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Okay, well there you go.
So I am most likely to win

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the March Madness bracket? Correct?
So number two? Who's most likely to

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be voted class clown? That would
definitely be me because I was yeah,

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so was I? Were you really
eighth grade? Why? Yeah? Well

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great? Well great for you,
jeez, I'd like to think it was.

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That's a great question. Yeah,
probably seventh grade. Wow, So

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we're gonna split that point those points? Okay, that's amazing. Yeah,

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that's really funny. Who's most likely
to go off on a tangent during a

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meeting? Jeff, Yeah, that's
definitely you. I'm a tangent guy.

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You're definitely a tangent guy. I
have all my thoughts all at once,

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all the time. I have all
my thoughts all at once, all the

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time. Everything reminds me of everything
reminds me of another thing. Everything.

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It's true. Who's most likely to
be the favorite child? Oh? That's

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me? Is it you? I
literally call my parents and go, hey,

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mom, it's your favorite son.
You I do it. My dad's

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birthday was a couple days ago.
I called him, hey, it's your

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favorite son. And so they bought
me a shirt that said favorite son.

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Oh yeah yeah, yeah, not
my parents, but well so my mom

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did, but she bought it for
all of us. But yeah, yeah,

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yeah, So even my brothers complained
that I'm the favorite child. So

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I'm the oldest. They got it
right the first time, right, you

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just can't everything? There it is? Which son? Are you? I'm

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the fifth, I'm the youngest,
so you're the last? Yeah? But

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everything goes downhill? But actually I
did. I always sign, well,

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I used to a long time ago, sign sign my cards number five,

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your favorite your favorite? Oh yeah, so there you go? Yeah yeah,

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so are you really your my favorite? I can see the baby.

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The baby is I'm not certain my
mom is incapable, I think. Yeah,

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so okay, I'm having favorites.
Yeah, no, she's not.

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That's funny. If you have to
say that, then no, you're not

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the favorite. That's all. I
love everybody the same, right, means

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you're not the favorite because parents go
yeah, I disagree, Oh yeah,

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disagree. It's true, dude,
I've had that. You don't know me

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my brothers. If my brothers are
listening, my mom tells me that every

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time she talks to me. Now
I'm joking, that's not true. Okay,

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I'm lying. Number five, Number
five, who's most likely to get

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stuck up a mountain and have to
call for rescue? That would be me?

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No, no, no, no
no, Well okay, that's definitely.

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Uh. I have mixed emotions,
but the answer is definitely ne is

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it you. Yeah, here's the
reason why. Because number one, you

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would most likely never have to call
for a rescue for anything. That's really

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the main operative part. Okay,
you just gave me that. However,

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the other half of this is I
would never be on a mountain for any

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reason whatsoever. Yeah, So if
you're there, you need rescue. But

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if it's unless it's on a mission
trip, right, it was on a

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mission strip, then I guess I
can see myself being on a mountain.

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It's funny. But other than that, I'm not voluntarily heading toward a mountain

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anytime soon. I remember I told
you, like, when I see those

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like shows about people, oh no, they died on Everest, I have

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like no compassion. I'm like,
what do you think was gonna happen?

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Yeah, of course you did.
Yeah. I was like, I was

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like, and then the weather came
in and how tragic it was. I'm

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like, yeah, that's what happens
when you sign up to go to everytht

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The way you don't die on Everest
is, you know, don't climb Everest.

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Don't climb Everest because chances are you're
going to die. Yeah. Yeah,

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so there's no compassion there. Last
you, you, my wife and

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I and my daughter we went to
Grand Tetons and then at Jenny Lake.

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If you've ever been there, it's
beautifully, just beautiful beautiful, and the

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Grand Teton Mountains are just so stark
right there, and so you ride a

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little boat across the lake and then
we could hike up the hill. You

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go into this valley and there's you
know, elk and all kinds of stuff.

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You try and see waterfalls. And
I'm telling you so, I'm not

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the super fittest guy, but when
we do those kinds of things, I

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just like, I don't care.
I'll pay the price tomorrow, but let's

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let's do these things. And I
just I love doing those things. And

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so honestly, you're sitting there and
you're looking at these, what fourteen thousand

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foot mountains, I'm like, I
wonder what to take. I wonder how

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much it costs to get a guy
to go. You don't do that like

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when you see big mountains. You
don't know. Oh man, I look

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at everything everything like that. I
wonder if everything. I like, I

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wonder what to be like to fly
in a chopper over this mountain? Yeah,

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people were doing that. No,
I mean I'll do that. Yeah.

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No, I just like at I
wonder, and then I start thinking,

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I wonder how expensive it would be
to buy all the equipment and just

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do like a five day hike through
the through You are very different people.

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Yeah, all the time. I
always want to just go around the next

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hill. I want to go up
that Mountain. I want to see what's

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just beyond all the time. I
don't know why it's just in me.

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Yeah, well, good for love, Yeah, good for love. That

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but in my current physical state,
that's why we're doing the seventy seven day

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talents, right, that's rights in
my current physical state, I'm likely to

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have to call for rescue if I'd
actually try to do those things. You

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know, Oftentimes, when I'm not
a certain way, I often, more

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times than not, I'll say,
you know, I really wish I was

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this way. Oh, like I
wish I wish I was the way that

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you are, you know, that
kind of thing in this particular case,

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most people do in almost every stop
stop. Yeah, but in this particular

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case, I am so glad the
way I am that I am, because

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you don't want that, no desire
to be that way. I don't know

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why. Yeah, Ok, here
we go. So we are in Matthew

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chapter twenty six, and again short
little verses, yep. But we're doing

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each of these events in the life
of Jesus. And so yesterday Judas committed

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to betray Jesus, and so now
here the disciples are preparing for the fat

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passover. So Matthew twenty six seventeen
says, on the first day of the

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Festival of Unloved Bread, the disciples
came to Jesus and asked, where do

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you want to us to prepare the
Passover meal for you. As you go

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into the city, he told them, you'll see a certain man. Tell

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him. The teacher says, my
time has come, and I will eat

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the Passover meal with my disciples at
your house. So the disciples did as

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Jesus told them and prepared the Passover
meal there. In Mark fourteen twelve,

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it says, on the first day
of the festival, a lem of bread

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when the passover lamb is sacrificed,
Jesus disciples asked him where do you want

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us to go to prepare the Passover
meal for you. So Jesus sent two

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of them into Jerusalem with these instructions. As you go into the city,

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a man carrying a pitcher of water
will meet you. Follow him. At

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the house he enters, say to
the owner, the teacher asks, where's

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the guest room where I can eat
the Passover meal with my disciple. You

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know'll take you upstairs to a large
room that is already set up that is

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where you should prepare our meal.
So the two disciples went into the city

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and found everything just as Jesus had
said, and they prepared the Passover meal

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there. And then in Luke chapter
two, verse seven, it says,

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now the festival of unleavened bread arrived. The passover lamb is when the passover

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lamb is sacrificed. Jesus sent Peter
and John ahead and said, go and

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prepare the Passover meals so we can
eat it together. Where he want us

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to prepare it, they asked him. He replied, as soon as you

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enter Jerusalem, a man carrying a
pitcher of water will meet you. Follow

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him at the house he enters,
say to the owner the teacher asks,

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where's the guest room where I can
eat the Passover meal with my disciples.

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He will take you upstairs to a
large room that is already set up.

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That is where you should prepare your
meal. They went off to the city

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and found everything just as Jesus had
said, and they prepared the Passover meal

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there. So they're getting ready for
Passover. Well, this is one of

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those things where it was just like
it was just like when Jesus found the

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donkey. Remember that he says,
going to the city and you're gonna find

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somebody there with a donkey and colt
and you're gonna say, the teacher's time,

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the teacher needs a donkey, and
he's gonna give you the donkey.

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And we talked about that and I
said, I said, gee, I

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wonder if that guy was like overtaken
with Jesus powers. You know, he

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just went into a trance. Yes, yeah, here are the reigns of

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my donkey. But then you suggested
something which was hilarious because I'd never hilarious,

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only in that I've never thought about
it. It was so practical.

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You said, well, maybe it
was just a person that he knew,

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or he had healed before, or
maybe it was just somebody who knew him,

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you know. And when they had
heard the Master is, you know,

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needing a donkey, they're like,
well, absolutely anything for Jesus,

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right, And so it could be
something as simple as that, right,

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sure, But my brain doesn't go
there at all. My brain goes to

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it's a miracle, you know,
like the ominous music starts and Jesus is

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like, you will run into a
man with a picture, you know,

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and then he will magically say I
have a room prepared already upstairs for you.

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Yeah. Yeah, So that's that's
what it does. Seem like if

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if they knew the guy, they
would say, hey, you're going to

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run into Simon. Yeah, right. It seemed like that's what he said.

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He didn't he said a man with
a picture, right, right.

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So there is a little bit of
mystery to this one. But the guy

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clearly knew who Jesus was because the
teacher asks, what, teacher, you

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know all of Jusalem was full of
rabbis today because it's past over week,

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right. So but if he was
overtaken with Jesus powers to that point,

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he wouldn't. He would he would
know exactly where the teacher was, sure,

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or you know, the whole city
had just turned out a couple of

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days ago to say Hosannah, right
right. So I think I think,

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I think he probably I think the
guy with the picture knew who Jesus was.

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Yeah, Because because again the disciples
didn't know who this guy was,

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it's not up to these authors to, uh, you know, unveil the

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dynamics of that conversation. What teacher, what who do you think? Right?

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The teacher right like like like I'm
sure, that probably even happened,

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right, right, But but but
that's not up to the author to lay

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that out for us, right,
So yeah, so I would think that

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that conversation probably took place. Yeah. One of the benefits of doing these

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parallel things, even when you're reading
some simple passages like this, is you

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see how they're all telling the same
story and they tell it in a different

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way, but it all meshes.
For instance, Matthew chapter twenty six says,

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on the first day of the festival, the disciples came to Jesus and

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asked, where do you want us
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you? And then he says,
as you go in a city. So

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it's the disciples, which disciples?
How many disciples? I think it's all

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the disciples, right then? If
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says the festival all of love and
bread arrived when the pass over lambs,

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Jesus sent Peter and John ahead.
So it turns out Peter and John are

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the two who get sent. All
the disciples come and ask he sends Peter

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and John. The way you know
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on the first day of the festival
all eleve and bread. When the

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passo over Lamb of Sacrist, Jesus
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him, where do you want to
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Isn't that interesting? Yeah, So
Matthew says, the disciples just ask.

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Luke says, he sends Peter,
and John Mark says, the disciples asked,

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and he sends two. Isn't that
neat? And so that's it's a

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simple thing. It means nothing but
that whole fact. But what I'm saying

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is when the stories differ, they
still always mesh. Yeah, right,

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there's a way to mesh them together. And that's the thing. I'll even

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push back on one thing that you
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it doesn't necessarily mean all two of
them, right right right? It could

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be five. Yeah, it was
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It could mean five. So again, unless there's another piece of insight

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that tells us which five disciples came, or which six or twelve or whatever,

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but more than the two he sent, yes, because if he wanted

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to talk about the two, he
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said the disciples, and then he
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disciples and two. Right, and
then we know that those two are Peter

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and John. Yeah, which,
by the way, is cool, it's

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cool to know, right, Well, so it's just useful in knowing.

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You know, sometimes if you watch
History Channel, they will want to try

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to disassemble the authority of the Gospels
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Yeah, conflicts, yeah, yeah, and they're not. They're differences,

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but they're not conflicting ever, Like
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every single difference between the gospels.
And so in my mind again and we've

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already asserted this several times, in
my mind, the differences give me more

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confidence that we're talking about real witnesses
as opposed to collusion, to make sure

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we all get our story straight before
we write it, right, right,

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right, Yeah, that's really good. Yeah. And notice also that he

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chose Peter and John again, so
again, right, So Peter and John

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are the ones who are chosen by
Jesus to witness really cool things that the

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other disciples may not have been chosen
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And so and I believe, and
I've always said it. It's because of

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their inquisitive heart. They're the ones
that pursued Jesus and pull him aside,

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and they're the ones that say,
tell us more, we want to know

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more, and let's ask you a
question more than the others. And so,

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you know, you know, Peter
and John get to experience this cool

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little thing where you know, imagine
them, okay walking into a town and

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at this point, is there still
a piece of them that wonders, Gee,

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you know, I wonder if this
is going to happen. There's got

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to be some anticipation, right,
he said, We're going to see this

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mysterious man with a picture. Oh
that's a while. I wonder it's going

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to happen, right? Or are
they just so unbelievably confident, which I

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imagine they would be by this time. They're accustomed to this. They're accustomed

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to this, right, So then
it's gonna walk in, They're gonna be

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well, he's got to be here, Jesus said he would be right,

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and so, which is pretty cool. And then did you when you were

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in Jerusalem, did you go to
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did not, You didn't. So
it's kind of funny like you have mentioned

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before, in Israel, when you
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guides will rank things one, two, three, One. Jesus was definitely

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here. Two, Jesus was probably
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and nobody knows right, right,
And so it used to be that the

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upper room was like a two maybe
a one, except the government made some

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changes and turned a space into a
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so then the Catholic Church just moved
where the upper room was. Oh my

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word. Yeah. So so it's
interesting when you're in the old city because

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you're in this They probably came through
one of the lower gates in the lower

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part of the city. So if
you if you can envision, Jerusalem sits

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on a hill, and then it's
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really steep. They're like there are
valleys made from runoff and little brooks that

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just cut through this softer dirt and
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are steep, and so while it
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it's only just a few miles away, like Bethany is only just a few

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miles from Jerusalem. So in this
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city, on the lower part of
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to the high part of the city
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There's multiple walls, and so they
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upper part of the city, which
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of rich stuff there, a lot
of rich people there. This is where

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Herod's lower palace was, It's where
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royal palace was. Caiaphas's house,
we believe, was right there. All

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these things, and so Jesus goes
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that's where he decides, I'm having
my last meal in class. Ye,

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there's a first class place. And
so it mentions here, welly, anybody

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who has a guest room that's on
a large upper room, a large upper

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room, and it's big enough for
a traditional table to house, not house,

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but feed twelve people or thirteen,
oh yeah, thirteen plus plus you

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know the disciples. It could have
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have that's right, It could have
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yeah, And so that is that's
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the standards of those days. Of
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today you're like, well, that's
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in those days, that's a rich
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hut here, no. And so
sometimes you know, people want to talk

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about the poverty of Jesus. The
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where we always get the idea that
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man has no place to lay his
head, right. But we we have

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mentioned this in the past. Jesus
friends tended to have some significant resources,

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and in this case, this person
has a large home and is happy to

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let Jesus use this for the Passover
meal. No, think about that for

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a minute. This is the day
before the Passover. Really, the Jerusalem

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goes from somewhere around fifty thousand people
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a giant upper room, and this
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This guy didn't have his own plan. You know, people who build

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big houses usually planned to fill them
on holidays, right, That is not

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why it is. So you know, the people who have nice, big

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homes that are listening on our podcast, you got that house because you were

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envisioning how great it be to have
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over for Christmas, right, and
how great this dining room is going to

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be for Thanksgiving. That's why we
buy bigger houses, you know. Otherwise

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most of us would just buy something
much more manageable. So this guy has

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a big house, big room,
probably with the intent of filling it on

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big days, and it's not or
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Something happened where in this very wealthy
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Jesus and his big group of people, And that is really quite astounding that

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this happened. It may have been
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Jesus use it instead of him backing
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his Jesus power. Yeah, yeah, maybe I doubt it. But anyways,

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the two places where they have identified
saying hey, this may be an

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upper room, they're upper room,
you know, for this meal. Both

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of them are in very ancient areas
of the city, and the downstairs is

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very big, and the extended buildings
and the little courtyard, all that stuff

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is very large. So this person
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be we're at Thursday, now,
is that right in the week? Yes,

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I believe so, I believe so. Yeah. So again it's unclear.

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preparing the meal, you're going to
sacrifice the lamb. You're going to cook

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for a long time in order to
get good lamb. It takes a while,

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you know. Yeah, And then
we and then we know he we

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know that he has the passover meal
in the upper room, and then he

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then he's to us. They go
through the garden. Actually he goes to

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the vineyard first, then he goes
through the garden. Then he gets arrested,

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then he gets tried, and then
he gets crucified, and and and

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so that would bring us to Friday. He goes to the olive grove.

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The amount of olives that no,
no, no, no, Actually,

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I think I'm pretty sure I learned
this, and I think it's I think

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this is true. No, it's
John fifteen. Remember I'm the vineye of

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the branch where he leaves the upper
room, and before he goes to the

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garden, get seventy. I think
he stops and teaches John fifteen. See

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that. Yeah, So all right, well that is our time, so

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we will see you next time on
the Bible, guys,