AI Transformation & Governance

Dejan Kosutic hosts Carlos Cruz, founder of Metanoia and an experienced ISO 9001/14001 auditor, to discuss how AI is changing audit work and how to govern its risks. Cruz explains he mainly uses AI in audit preparation to design a logical interview flow, anticipate blind spots, and later to help weave connected findings into clearer reports, while avoiding uploading full client documentation due to confidentiality concerns. They explore a future where AI could automate stage 1 document review, build checklists and audit flows, conduct remote interviews and observations via agents, collect evidence, and even draft nonconformities, while humans remain responsible for judgment, conclusions, and validating outputs. Key risks include hallucinations, terminology mismatches, and cross-project contamination, mitigated through review, better prompting, and curated knowledge bases. The episode highlights ISO 42001 for AI governance and urges auditors to start experimenting with AI and strengthen information security skills.

LINK FROM THE EPISODE
► ISO 42001 Courses https://advisera.co/Courses-ISO42001
  • (00:00) - Interview with Carlos Cruz
  • (01:19) - AI For Audit Preparation
  • (04:29) - Prompts Context And Uploads
  • (05:40) - Confidentiality And Data Risks
  • (07:13) - Using AI For Audit Reports
  • (10:33) - Document Review With AI
  • (15:51) - AI Agents For Interviews
  • (17:04) - What AI Cannot Do
  • (18:57) - AI For Evidence Collection
  • (21:45) - Human Oversight Needed
  • (26:22) - Prompting And Governance
  • (30:15) - Training Future Auditors
  • (33:07) - Audit Workload Shifts
  • (41:15) - Key Takeaways

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What is AI Transformation & Governance?

Welcome to AI Transformation & Governance, the podcast that makes complex AI topics easy to understand, helping leaders and professionals unlock AI potential while keeping risks under control.

Hosted by Dejan Kosutic, CEO of Advisera, the podcast features interviews with leaders and experts who share their experiences and practical insights on how AI is transforming the business world, and how to balance the rapid pace of AI innovation with effective AI governance.

 Embrace AI, but stay in control.