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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, it is Friday, and we're hoping,

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<v Speaker 1>we're hopefully you're excited. Maybe it's your last day at

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<v Speaker 1>work today, or or maybe you're a weekend warrior and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe this is the first big day. Maybe you we're

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but we're all grateful it's Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>You're buckling up for a.

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<v Speaker 2>Friday, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but either way, thanks tuning. It's it's always very great,

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<v Speaker 1>says Tony the Tigers. You're wearing sort of orange today.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at you, and all you gotta do is put

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<v Speaker 1>your hand up when you say it. There you go. So, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the Bible Guys. Thanks for tuning in, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be talking about First Thessalonians chapter five today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good. But before we do that, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>segment that we are very excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, normally on a Friday, the highlight of everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>week is what made Chris math this. Yeah, not today,

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<v Speaker 2>but we also have a significant highlight that our fan base.

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<v Speaker 2>Our long timers know they this is incredibly important because

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<v Speaker 2>we bring an important service to our people. We bring

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<v Speaker 2>important news. We scour the internet for news or for

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<v Speaker 2>special interest pieces or good parenting suggestions.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would say ninety percent of the time when

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<v Speaker 1>we read from this, I'm very It makes me very happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very funny.

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<v Speaker 2>So we find our very best news on the Babylon

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<v Speaker 2>Bee website we do, which is probably as good as

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<v Speaker 2>any other news source out there. More beneficial.

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<v Speaker 1>I doesn't say, way more beneficial than most, yes, most news sources.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't know, the Babylon b is a

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<v Speaker 2>satire website, very funny. They don't sponsor us at all.

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<v Speaker 2>They should. I don't know sponsors all, but you should.

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<v Speaker 2>You should check them out. They're funny. Anyways, this one

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<v Speaker 2>is it has a hey do you know what? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you know what this month is? It's a thirty fifth

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<v Speaker 2>anniversary of Home Alone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's incredible the Christmas movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, isn't that amazing?

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<v Speaker 1>It's really It makes me feel pretty old.

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<v Speaker 2>So with Home Alone the spirit of Home Alone in

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<v Speaker 2>our minds. This headline says, reminder, if you leave your

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<v Speaker 2>kids home alone this holiday season. Make sure they have

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of paid cans, blow torches, and a cutout of

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Jordan. That's the headline if you've seen the movie Okay, says.

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<v Speaker 2>US authorities issued a public service announcement in time for

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<v Speaker 2>the holiday season, reminding parents that if they leave their

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<v Speaker 2>children home alone, they just ensure that they have access

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<v Speaker 2>to plenty of paiate cans, a blowtorch, and a cardboard

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<v Speaker 2>cutout of Michael Jordan. In a pinch, a cardboard cutout

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<v Speaker 2>of Shaquille O'Neil would also be acceptable. The Federal Administration

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<v Speaker 2>for Children and Families held the press conference on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>and which it called in the public to remain vigilant

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the holidays by keeping a sufficient supply of paint cans,

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<v Speaker 2>blow torches, bowling balls, nail guns, tar micromachines, hot irons,

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<v Speaker 2>old gangster movies, and tarantulas. We know the holiday season

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<v Speaker 2>is a busy time of year and attempting to leave

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<v Speaker 2>your kids alone at home while you run errands or

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<v Speaker 2>fly to Europe, But if you do, we're asking you

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<v Speaker 2>to do the right thing. Make sure they have access

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<v Speaker 2>to your tool shed, and to cutout a major sports

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<v Speaker 2>figure FACF director Richard Keller said, and please keep in

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<v Speaker 2>mind your state's self defense laws to determine if a

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Jordan cut out, our cardboard cutout is right for

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<v Speaker 2>your family. Families were also being encouraged to hit stores

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<v Speaker 2>early to stock up on supplies for all the feathers

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<v Speaker 2>and large fans were sold out. Do not wait for

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<v Speaker 2>Black Friday sales. It'll be too late, authorities warned at

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<v Speaker 2>publishing time. Authorities had also encouraged families to make friends

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<v Speaker 2>with a kindly old man who Selt sidewalks on their street.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>So you definitely have to have seen Home Alone.

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<v Speaker 1>So so, did you ever see the cartoon version where

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<v Speaker 1>it actually says if Home Alone's thieves were normal, reasonable

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<v Speaker 1>people or something like that. Oh no, it's pretty funny

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like they walked in and they walked in

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<v Speaker 1>through the through the door, and in the one thief

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<v Speaker 1>books at the other and goes, hey, watch your step.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's broken glassrooms and the guy goes, oh, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>and he steps over it and he goes, yeah, did

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<v Speaker 1>you have any trouble getting in? He goes, well, he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go reach for the doorknob, he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>the window or something like that. But it's just hilarious,

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<v Speaker 1>how you know, Like you've got to be a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>dumb thief in order to fall for it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I gotta admit, I want to go watch the

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<v Speaker 2>movie again.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's a classics, right well.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the line in this one where it says,

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<v Speaker 2>we know it's tempting to leave your kids alone at

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<v Speaker 2>home while you're on errands or fly to Europe, right right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And you know what the best part about home

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety, I was, you know, just graduating high school

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<v Speaker 1>back then, and I remember my buddy and I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it and I said, there's not been this is

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<v Speaker 1>a brand news story, like nobody's nobody's come up with

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<v Speaker 1>this story. This is an original idea, yeah, right, The

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<v Speaker 1>idea of like leaving your kid home, that's a that's

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<v Speaker 1>an original idea back then, and I actually thought to myself, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be great because it's it's a brand new.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we are thirty five years later and we still

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<v Speaker 2>don't have something better. Yeah, well I thought elf Elf

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good story. Yeah. Yeah, it is an original idea.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, it's actually really hard today to come up

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<v Speaker 1>with an original story. A lot of stories are like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're like, oh, Avatar, that's just dancing with wolves. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just recycled on a planet, right, it's like that's what

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but then you see a brand new movie come

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<v Speaker 1>out that has a brand new idea and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>wreck it. Ralph and it was a kid's it was

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<v Speaker 1>a Pixar film. But it's like what it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>bad guy wanting to be good and in video games.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was brilliant. I remember thinking I saw

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<v Speaker 2>The first bad guy. Doesn't make me bad guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right? I remember thinking like, this is a brilliant

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<v Speaker 1>script because it's brand new, right, and you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the theater now, it's like it's like you got the

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<v Speaker 1>Running Man, you get all that stuff. It's it's all

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<v Speaker 1>the recycled stuff, right, now so.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, well, we're not going to recycle anything today. We're

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<v Speaker 2>bringing original opinions. Yes on second, third, or first That'salonians

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<v Speaker 2>chapter five.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. We're not going to recycle some old you

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<v Speaker 2>That's right there it is, that's right, that's right. We

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<v Speaker 2>are pulling it right off the top of our head

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<v Speaker 2>and making this stuff off as we go. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you're new to our show, wow, it's so greats.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't rely on some well versed you know, a group

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<v Speaker 1>of guys who get together and scholars, scholars who you

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<v Speaker 1>know bring you like great information to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Just just so, the whole premise behind our podcast if

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<v Speaker 2>you're new, is that we are two friends who like

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about the b in fun and practical ways,

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<v Speaker 2>and we really do take our faith seriously. We just

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<v Speaker 2>don't take ourselves too seriously. So we laugh a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeh works around. We have a little bit of fun,

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<v Speaker 2>bring your very critical news and special interest pieces sometimes,

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<v Speaker 2>but we also like talking about the Bible. And today

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about God's promises and we are in first

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<v Speaker 2>that Saloneiast chapter five, and our big promise today is

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<v Speaker 2>in verse twenty four. But we just decided we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to read from the very beginning of chapter five, says

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<v Speaker 2>now concerning how and when all this will happen, dear

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<v Speaker 2>brothers and sisters, we don't really need to write to you,

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<v Speaker 2>for you know quite well that the day of the

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<v Speaker 2>Lord's return will come unexpectedly, like a thief in the night.

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<v Speaker 2>When people are saying everything is peaceful and secure, then

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<v Speaker 2>disaster will fall on them as suddenly as a pregnant

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<v Speaker 2>woman's labor paints begin, and there will be no escape.

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<v Speaker 2>But you aren't in the dark about these things, dear

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<v Speaker 2>brothers and sisters, and you won't be surprised when the

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<v Speaker 2>day the Lord comes like a thief, for you are

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<v Speaker 2>all children of the light and of the day. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't belong to darkness and night. So be on your guard,

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<v Speaker 2>not asleep like others, Stay alert and be clear headed.

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<v Speaker 2>Night is the time when people sleep and drinker get drunk.

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<v Speaker 2>But let us who live in the light be clear headed,

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<v Speaker 2>protected by the armor of faith and love, and wearing

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<v Speaker 2>is our helmet, the confidence of our salvation. For God

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<v Speaker 2>chose to save us through our Lord Jesus Christ, not

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<v Speaker 2>to pour out his anger on us. Christ died for us,

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<v Speaker 2>so that whether we are dead or alive, when He returns,

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<v Speaker 2>we can live with him forever. So encourage each other

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<v Speaker 2>and build each other up, just as you are doing already.

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<v Speaker 2>Dear brothers and sisters, honor those who are your leaders

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<v Speaker 2>in the Lord's work. They work hard among you and

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<v Speaker 2>give you spiritual guidance. Show them great respect and wholehearted

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<v Speaker 2>love because of their work, and live peaceably with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Brothers and sisters. We urge you to warn those who

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<v Speaker 2>are lazy, encourage those who are timid, take tender care

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<v Speaker 2>of those who are weak. Be patient with everyone. See

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<v Speaker 2>that no one pays back evil for evil, But always

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<v Speaker 2>try to do good to each other and to all people.

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<v Speaker 2>Always be joyful, never stop praying, be thankful in all circumstances,

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<v Speaker 2>for this is God's will for you, who belong to

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<v Speaker 2>Christ Jesus. Do not stifle the Holy spirit. Do not

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<v Speaker 2>scoff at price ophees, but test everything that is said,

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on to what is good, Stay away from every

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<v Speaker 2>kind of evil. Now that may may the God of

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<v Speaker 2>Peace make you holy in every way. May your whole

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<v Speaker 2>spirit and soul and body be kept blameless until our

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<v Speaker 2>Lord Jesus Christ comes again. God will make this happen,

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<v Speaker 2>for he who calls you is faithful. Dear brothers and sisters,

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<v Speaker 2>pray for us. Greet all the brothers and sisters with

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<v Speaker 2>the sacred kiss. I command you, in the name of

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<v Speaker 2>the Lord, to read this letter to all the brothers

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<v Speaker 2>Christ be with you. Doesn't sound that sound like the

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<v Speaker 2>end of Hebrews, right, I'm just saying right, right, if

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<v Speaker 2>you missed it. At the beginning of that, we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about Hebrews, and we argued about who are we debated

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<v Speaker 2>said that the last chapter of Hebrews feels like the

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<v Speaker 2>last chapter of most books that Paul wrote. And here

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<v Speaker 2>it is right here, right, same way, and by.

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<v Speaker 1>here about spiritual leaders in spite of their limitations, God's

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<v Speaker 1>will be peace and harmony in the church. Now, as

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that. But here's my favorite part. My

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<v Speaker 1>and then we always have a Bible verse or two

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<v Speaker 1>Bible verses to back up that. But on the disunity part,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's probably like twenty five verses, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>causing just unity, this is not a church that welcomes in.

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<v Speaker 2>He challenges him here at Thesalonaika, he challenges them an Ephesians. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's interesting from verse eleven to the end

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<v Speaker 2>Always be joyful brothers, Honor those who are your leaders. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a note in the Life Application Study Bible

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<v Speaker 2>for encouragers. I think it's interesting. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>me to do in the church, and what they're saying

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<v Speaker 2>to be an encourager. Right, anybody can be an encourager.

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<v Speaker 2>Not all of us have a skill set to be

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<v Speaker 1>Right, do you think you're good at that? No?

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<v Speaker 2>Encouraging, I'm I'm not great at current encouraging. I want

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<v Speaker 1>about to say, I don't think that I am. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you think I am, maybe I'm better in a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I get to the work of it, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>moving on to the next thing, the next thing, the

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<v Speaker 2>I have to really, really really work to remember to

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<v Speaker 2>encourage people. But there's some people you get around them

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<v Speaker 2>and you feel like a million bucks when you Bob Harvey,

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<v Speaker 2>On my word, you can't be around that guy for

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<v Speaker 1>What he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I'm ready when I'm done talking to Bob Harvey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready to charge hell with a squirt gun.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like Barnabas.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. He just encourages everybody can be if we

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<v Speaker 2>appicationis study Bible. It points these out. Here are the commands.

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<v Speaker 1>so glad that your heritage. Man, We're so thankful, You're

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<v Speaker 2>Bob hug me right right, yeah, And he's probably listening

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<v Speaker 2>to the podcast right now. But the Bible says this,

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<v Speaker 2>from verse eleven to verse twenty three. He tells us

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<v Speaker 2>it's important we got to challenge people. Sometimes challenge someone

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, it's recruiting is really what it is. Encourage

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<v Speaker 2>Verse eighteen. Give thanks. That's a good way to start, right.

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<v Speaker 2>the better thing is to cooperate the Holy Spirit. Next

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<v Speaker 2>say it right. Don't hold back what the Holy Spirit

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<v Speaker 2>And He's best basically saying, receive God's words from those

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<v Speaker 2>How about just take that chapter and start working on

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<v Speaker 2>those fifteen things?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, twelve, thirteen, fourteen? Yeah, fifteen? Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I memorized it as do not grieve the Holy Spirit, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the Holy Spirit of God, but do not stifle the

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<v Speaker 1>Holy Spirit. How would a person stifle the Holy Spirit?

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<v Speaker 1>How can a person, you know grieve the Holy Spirit?

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<v Speaker 2>What the Holy Spirit is trying to do in you

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<v Speaker 2>or in others is really what it's talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>that context when he says do not grieve the Holy

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<v Speaker 1>Spirit or stifle the Holy Spirit, I always looked at

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<v Speaker 1>it as when you decide to place yourself above what

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<v Speaker 1>or something, and in the Holy Spirit is doing a

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<v Speaker 1>work you as a family of believers, and then somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else decides to make a joke or draw attention to

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<v Speaker 1>themselves or you know, start talking on purpose or or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or worshiped heckle the speaker or something, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but whatever whatever they might do to take the attention

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<v Speaker 1>off of what the Holy Spirit is doing and then

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<v Speaker 1>to bring it on to something else. Yeah, and much

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<v Speaker 1>much of the case, it's themselves, right, and and and

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, grieving the work of the Holy Spirit. You

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<v Speaker 1>basically said the same thing if if Holy spirit's working

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<v Speaker 1>in you, or is working in you, or maybe he's

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<v Speaker 1>working in a corporate setting among you, it's it's all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. So yeah, I've always really enjoyed that concept.

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<v Speaker 1>And when Paul is talking about respecting the church and

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<v Speaker 1>everything that God wants to do through the church. I

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<v Speaker 1>love receiving it through that context.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that it also has a lot to do

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<v Speaker 2>with spiritual gifts. There, don't stifle the spiritual gifts of

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<v Speaker 2>the Holy Spirit in the church. I think because and

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<v Speaker 2>the reason I say that it is he writes so

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<v Speaker 2>much about this idea to the Ephesians, to the Corinthians,

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<v Speaker 2>to the Romans. He talks a lot about how the

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<v Speaker 2>church is supposed to function in spiritual gifts, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of cruising through very quickly, high level, all these

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<v Speaker 2>things that should be happening in the church. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's talking here, don't don't stifle how the Holy Spirit

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<v Speaker 2>works through people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, the very next verse does say, don't scoff

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<v Speaker 1>at prophecies.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, a gift, which is the preaching side of things,

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<v Speaker 2>bringing God's word to God's people. And so if that's

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<v Speaker 2>the case, then you know, I think there's a tendency

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<v Speaker 2>in churches sometimes the big mercy people all they can

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<v Speaker 2>see as an opportunity to do good, pass out, you know, charity,

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<v Speaker 2>do all the good, and they get frustrated with the

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<v Speaker 2>leaders who put limits on things going well, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to manage the budget. We're gonna do this thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>leaders sometimes can get frustrated with people who are pure

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<v Speaker 2>mercy and go these people they just have no sense

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<v Speaker 2>at all about how to do well. The people who

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<v Speaker 2>have the spiritual gift of leadership shouldn't stifle the generosity

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<v Speaker 2>of the mercy people, right, And the mercy people shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>stifle the wisdom and the leadership of the leaders.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>God gives spiritual gifts for different in different ways. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we as we come up. It's natural for every

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<v Speaker 2>generation to think that the next generation's music doesn't honor God,

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<v Speaker 2>and so then they want to stifle the next generation

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<v Speaker 2>from worshiping, right, And I think that that's part of that, right,

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<v Speaker 2>what the Holy Spirit's doing the whole It's half a

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<v Speaker 2>dozen times in the Book of Psalms David says, sing

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<v Speaker 2>a new song to the Lord. But we get mad

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<v Speaker 2>when they sing a new song, right, Right, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like it. That's not the Holy Spirit whatever. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think we have to just be aware that the Holy

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<v Speaker 2>spirits are doing things through people, and he's using different

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual gifts, and not everybody has my spiritual gift and

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<v Speaker 2>I can't project my spiritual gift on everybody else. But

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<v Speaker 2>I also have to be thankful for the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>others have gifts I don't have. And then we celebrate

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<v Speaker 2>those things. And then as you take all those things,

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<v Speaker 2>let me finish it up with this, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's important. I read those fifteen things right, build each

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<v Speaker 2>other up, honor your leaders, live in peace, encourage the timid, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>as we're choosing to live this way. And he talks

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<v Speaker 2>about then being holy and all these things, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>talking about living in the holy spirit, hold on to

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<v Speaker 2>what is good, stay away from every kind of evil.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he ends it with so, now, may the God

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<v Speaker 2>of Peace make you holy in every way.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy just means set apart for God. He's taking you

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<v Speaker 2>out of the world, and he's setting apart for his use.

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<v Speaker 2>And may your whole spirit and your whole soul and

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<v Speaker 2>your whole body be kept blameless until our Lord Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>Christ comes again. He said, man, I want everything about

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<v Speaker 2>you to become more and more like Jesus and less

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<v Speaker 2>and less less and less sinful until you're blameless. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he says, God will make this happen for he

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<v Speaker 2>who calls you as faithful. This promise is the promise

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<v Speaker 2>that God will continue to make you holy when you

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<v Speaker 2>make these kind of efforts. Build each other up, build

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<v Speaker 2>up the church, encourage one and one another. Don't stifle

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<v Speaker 2>the holy spirit. Uh, you know, hold on to what

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<v Speaker 2>is good, stay away from every kind of evil. And

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<v Speaker 2>then when you're making those choices, God will make you

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<v Speaker 2>more and more and more like Jesus and it'll be amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Six months from now, a year from now, three years

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<v Speaker 2>from now, you're gonna look back and go, Man, God's

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<v Speaker 2>brought me a long way. Yeah, there's been times in

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<v Speaker 2>my life I look back at my life and go,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe how far God, I'm nothing like the

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<v Speaker 2>person I used to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, and that's a good thing. So many ways

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<v Speaker 1>in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 2>And it says God will make this happen for he

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<v Speaker 2>who calls us faithful. That's the promise.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, that's great. Well, that sounds like a great place

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<v Speaker 1>to end wrap up. So hey, well pick up with

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<v Speaker 1>another theme of God's promises next week, and we hope

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<v Speaker 1>you join us on the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys,