WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.000 A good day coming, and it's all I need, everything I wanted. 00:00:08.440 --> 00:00:09.280 Hey, hey. 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:12.200 Welcome back. 00:00:12.200 --> 00:00:17.200 11, continuing the slow march towards 100. 00:00:17.200 --> 00:00:19.639 We will get there before the end of the year though. 00:00:19.639 --> 00:00:20.480 We will. 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:23.200 Before the end of the year, we'll see. 00:00:23.200 --> 00:00:26.080 No, it'll happen, I'm optimistic. 00:00:26.080 --> 00:00:27.559 I'm gonna run towards it. 00:00:28.160 --> 00:00:30.440 I'm actually very impressed that we even have 11, 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:31.440 so here we are. 00:00:31.440 --> 00:00:32.880 Oh man. Excellent. 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:34.759 We've crossed into the double digits, 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:36.759 and so at this point, it's a real thing 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:39.619 as much as it can be. 00:00:40.919 --> 00:00:43.320 No, I think we were just talking beforehand 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:47.700 in a book that we've both read that I feel is really, 00:00:49.959 --> 00:00:51.320 is the word I'm looking for, prescient, 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:54.840 or really important in today's world 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:56.520 is actually gonna be Snow Crash. 00:00:56.520 --> 00:01:00.439 And I put another book up here on the side thing 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:01.599 that kind of came out at the same time, 00:01:01.599 --> 00:01:02.639 which is The Sovereign Individual, 00:01:02.639 --> 00:01:04.879 but Snow Crash, for anybody who's not familiar, 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:07.120 is actually a book by Neal Stephenson. 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:12.120 It's actually where the word metaverse comes from. 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:17.480 So the metaverse, if you haven't seen or read Snow Crash, 00:01:18.559 --> 00:01:21.199 essentially it's Inception. 00:01:21.199 --> 00:01:23.080 Like that whole thought process 00:01:23.080 --> 00:01:26.320 of you just like logging into the metaverse 00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:29.320 and kind of like checking out for your life, 00:01:29.320 --> 00:01:31.199 that's exactly what Snow Crash is about. 00:01:31.199 --> 00:01:34.279 But it's this really interesting merger, 00:01:34.279 --> 00:01:36.519 and it takes place in Los Angeles in like 20, 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:39.040 in the late, like 2050 or something like that. 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:41.000 I can't remember the actual years on it, 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:43.519 but I'll look it up. 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:47.519 But the top line. 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:49.760 21st century, unspecified number of years 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:52.400 after the worldwide economic collapse. 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:55.080 Los Angeles is no longer part of the United States 00:01:55.080 --> 00:01:58.000 since the federal government has ceded most of its power 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:01.519 and territory to private organizations and entrepreneurs. 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:04.559 Yes, and so I think the coolest thing about Snow Crash 00:02:04.559 --> 00:02:07.279 and the most terrifying thing about Snow Crash 00:02:07.279 --> 00:02:12.279 is that at the end of the day in that particular book, 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:18.759 they kind of walk you through the bifurcation of society 00:02:18.759 --> 00:02:20.240 within a single nation. 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:23.639 And so very specifically what Steve just said, 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:25.440 or what Bonder just said is, 00:02:26.600 --> 00:02:30.679 you get to a point in time 00:02:30.679 --> 00:02:32.199 where your government doesn't matter, 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:34.559 and all that matters is the 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:39.679 place you hold a passport, essentially. 00:02:39.679 --> 00:02:41.479 Like where do you throw your religion? 00:02:41.479 --> 00:02:42.960 And where do you throw your religion? 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:44.720 Where do you have rights? 00:02:44.720 --> 00:02:47.559 Where have you purchased rights, really? 00:02:47.559 --> 00:02:48.520 And that's, I think, the thing 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:51.080 that's the most terrifying that we're kind of starting 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:53.399 to see all over the world right now. 00:02:53.399 --> 00:02:55.919 And it's like, I don't know if people have seen 00:02:55.919 --> 00:02:57.559 what's kind of going on in Texas, 00:02:57.559 --> 00:03:00.000 and this is kind of what I wanted to talk about, 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:03.619 is this city in Texas that, 00:03:04.919 --> 00:03:08.399 you know, actually I'll drop it in this way, 00:03:08.399 --> 00:03:13.039 just so that way I'm not unnimming myself in certain things. 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:16.720 But this city in Texas that is, 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:21.919 boop, boop, boop, that's kind of starting. 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:25.199 And so this is me just kind of pulling up a tweet. 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:29.479 But there's a city essentially called Epic City, 00:03:29.479 --> 00:03:30.720 which is going to be a Muslim-only, 00:03:30.720 --> 00:03:33.039 Sharia law city planned in Texas, 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:35.279 apparently of 102 acres. 00:03:35.279 --> 00:03:40.020 And they've built a 40,000 square foot mosque. 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:44.080 And they're essentially just going to take over. 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:46.320 It's going to be completely, 00:03:46.320 --> 00:03:48.240 everyone is Muslim here, is what it says. 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:49.800 This is not a warning. 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:52.080 Actually, this is what's happening in Irving, Texas. 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:56.440 And they're starting to essentially create a Sharia state 00:03:57.360 --> 00:03:58.839 within the United States. 00:03:58.839 --> 00:04:01.119 This has already happened also in like Minnesota. 00:04:01.119 --> 00:04:02.639 You know, it's one of the things that we were seeing 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:06.919 when we were, or one of the biggest issues 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:08.600 with Ilhan Omar that people were talking about 00:04:08.600 --> 00:04:10.759 is like, hey, this state is coming. 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:13.399 And I'm just really, really curious to see 00:04:13.399 --> 00:04:16.399 how this is going to unfold, 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:20.399 because I actually do think this is the future. 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:23.119 I actually believe this is the most correct. 00:04:23.119 --> 00:04:26.679 And I think Neil Stevenson got it right in Snow Crash 00:04:26.679 --> 00:04:31.239 when he kind of went through all of the things 00:04:31.239 --> 00:04:36.239 that are happening in the future state of Los Angeles 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:39.559 that he kind of put together, you know, what's going on. 00:04:39.559 --> 00:04:41.279 And so, I don't know, I'm just curious your take on this 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:45.079 of like, how is this going to look in LA? 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:47.040 Because I think we're going to get to a world in LA 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:52.040 where we are kind of having a similar thing happening 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:57.959 where, oh, hang on a sec. 00:04:57.959 --> 00:04:59.880 What do you think is going to be happening in LA? 00:04:59.880 --> 00:05:01.640 I kind of see this happening in LA. 00:05:03.880 --> 00:05:06.440 So, one of the things that's fascinating 00:05:06.440 --> 00:05:09.679 about thinking about it, and probably one of the reasons 00:05:09.679 --> 00:05:13.720 why Neil chose to put this book in LA, 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:15.519 put the setting of LA, 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:18.679 is because LA is literally already there. 00:05:18.679 --> 00:05:21.480 Now, we don't have Muslim neighborhoods, 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:24.519 but we have something like 500 neighborhoods, 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:27.000 and each one of them has their own vibe 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:30.440 and particularities and the rest of it. 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:36.600 And so, we're already at a place where, 00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:41.559 like, in my neighborhood, it's like, 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:45.600 there's no way or no reason for me to drive 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:47.880 literally two hours to get to a neighborhood 00:05:47.880 --> 00:05:50.600 that's across town and think that we have 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:52.559 any kind of relationship with each other. 00:05:52.559 --> 00:05:53.399 Like, we don't. 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:55.880 It's just, quote, unquote, incorporated LA, 00:05:55.880 --> 00:05:58.279 but it's so different. 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:00.640 It's 100% a different world. 00:06:00.640 --> 00:06:02.799 Like, I'm on the east side, and when you go to the west side, 00:06:02.799 --> 00:06:04.799 it's literally a different world. 00:06:04.799 --> 00:06:09.640 And the space and distance of people, 00:06:09.640 --> 00:06:14.040 it's unbelievable just trying to wrap your head around it. 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:14.880 So, and a lot of people don't think about that. 00:06:14.880 --> 00:06:16.679 They're like, oh, yeah, it's just, 00:06:16.679 --> 00:06:18.119 LA is just kind of like Austin, 00:06:18.119 --> 00:06:19.160 maybe a little bit bigger. 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:20.920 And it's like, no, there's literally, 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:22.880 like, I couldn't tell you how many, 00:06:22.880 --> 00:06:25.600 but there's, like, Austin has a cool city center 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:26.959 with all the skyrises. 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:29.359 LA has, like, seven of those. 00:06:29.359 --> 00:06:31.640 It's like, this is not, 00:06:31.640 --> 00:06:35.760 these are incompatible, like, comparisons. 00:06:35.760 --> 00:06:38.399 Like, there's seven different downtowns, 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:40.640 including downtown LA, which is its own thing, 00:06:40.640 --> 00:06:42.559 unlike all the other downtowns, right? 00:06:42.559 --> 00:06:43.480 Yeah, it's interesting. 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:44.720 Yeah, because, you know, there's, like, 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:47.119 Culver City, Studio City, and if people aren't familiar, 00:06:47.119 --> 00:06:50.679 there's, you know, all these different boroughs 00:06:50.679 --> 00:06:54.119 is probably the best way to describe them, or enclaves. 00:06:54.119 --> 00:06:58.720 But what's unique about LA is they all, yeah, 00:06:58.720 --> 00:06:59.559 they all, 00:06:59.559 --> 00:07:02.399 And then Long Beach, and Pasadena, and, yeah, it's just. 00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:07.600 And it all kind of stemmed out of an interesting 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:09.519 predicament that we have here in LA is 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:12.040 LA is the biggest backlot in the world, 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:13.320 and we don't need that anymore. 00:07:13.320 --> 00:07:15.720 You know, all of these, like, Pasadena, 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:17.480 people have heard that name before. 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:19.600 You know, Pasadena has a couple different areas 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:22.760 where, like, this particular street looks like, 00:07:22.760 --> 00:07:25.600 you know, New England, and then this street looks like, 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:28.920 you know, the middle of nowhere in Mexico. 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:31.320 You know, all these different vibes 00:07:31.320 --> 00:07:33.320 and different styles of architecture. 00:07:33.320 --> 00:07:34.839 You know, you have other places that look like, 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:36.559 oh, this could be the Midwest. 00:07:36.559 --> 00:07:39.359 And that's a really interesting thing that LA has, 00:07:39.359 --> 00:07:41.320 is they have these little boroughs and these little enclaves, 00:07:41.320 --> 00:07:46.320 but I'm increasingly more under the, 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:54.320 you know, or coming to the understanding that Bitcoin 00:07:54.320 --> 00:07:58.839 is going to expedite the, 00:08:01.359 --> 00:08:03.480 you know, separation of our cities, 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:05.279 but then it's also going to expedite 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:10.279 the creation of completely new economies. 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:12.559 Yeah, what it's going to do, 00:08:12.559 --> 00:08:14.839 like, you have to go through the logic of it, 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:17.559 and sometimes the logic can be a little bit fuzzy, 00:08:17.559 --> 00:08:22.559 but I think ultimately it forces people to extremely, 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:26.160 and especially with AI coming in now, too, 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:28.839 it forces people to extremely discount 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:31.600 everything they see online, right? 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:33.760 Oh, well, you know what? 00:08:33.760 --> 00:08:37.640 I got a call on, like, my phone, or I got an email, 00:08:37.640 --> 00:08:41.760 and it seemed like it was from my mom, 00:08:41.760 --> 00:08:43.159 and it said she was in distress, 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:45.880 and she needed my Bitcoin for some reason. 00:08:45.880 --> 00:08:49.760 Like, all of a sudden, well, I don't really trust email. 00:08:49.760 --> 00:08:51.919 All of a sudden, I don't really trust my phone. 00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:53.559 And then, okay, well, what do you trust? 00:08:53.559 --> 00:08:56.559 Well, one of the only things you can actually trust 00:08:56.559 --> 00:09:01.559 is Meetspace, as they say in Mr. Robot, 00:09:01.599 --> 00:09:04.320 like, the encryption we used was the real world. 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:06.599 Nobody can tap that encryption. 00:09:06.599 --> 00:09:09.799 You know, I'm sure space satellites can hear everything 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:11.039 and see everything, blah, blah, blah, 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:15.799 but, like, okay, it's just a small group. 00:09:15.799 --> 00:09:18.520 We're talking about distributed actors 00:09:18.520 --> 00:09:22.320 and the mass of society being able to interact 00:09:22.320 --> 00:09:26.479 with each other on a commercial basis, 00:09:26.479 --> 00:09:28.320 and all of these protocols are broken, 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:29.640 except for the one protocol 00:09:29.640 --> 00:09:30.960 that humans are made to interact with, 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:32.559 which is the local protocol. 00:09:33.520 --> 00:09:34.679 Yeah, it's interesting. 00:09:34.679 --> 00:09:36.239 I was talking to somebody else today, 00:09:36.239 --> 00:09:41.239 and the only realm in which I feel humans will ever not, 00:09:44.119 --> 00:09:46.919 or rather, will ever be completely safe and secure 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:49.919 is farming, and I know that sounds weird, 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:52.119 but there's gonna be a lot of moments 00:09:52.119 --> 00:09:57.119 where I don't think, I think robots can do a lot. 00:09:58.679 --> 00:09:59.520 Oh, look at this. 00:09:59.599 --> 00:10:00.840 Hey, what's up? 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:02.799 Stranger. 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:06.799 We're talking about Snow Crash, 00:10:06.799 --> 00:10:08.719 and have you read Snow Crash? 00:10:08.719 --> 00:10:09.559 I have not. 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:13.840 Zach, it's a great book. 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:16.679 It's literally the sovereign individual thesis 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:18.239 in a narrative form, 00:10:18.239 --> 00:10:20.599 so if you haven't read The Sovereign Individual, 00:10:20.599 --> 00:10:25.039 it's another one, but it is a very, you know, 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:30.080 very unique and focused and targeted idea, 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:39.320 and it's kind of like, how do we walk out 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:40.640 what's gonna happen when governments 00:10:40.640 --> 00:10:42.400 actually have to provide real value 00:10:42.400 --> 00:10:44.520 to a place where it's like, 00:10:44.520 --> 00:10:45.640 you have to provide real value, 00:10:45.640 --> 00:10:49.119 that real value actually needs to be providing real things, 00:10:49.119 --> 00:10:51.080 and if you can't- 00:10:51.080 --> 00:10:53.880 It's not gonna work if it's just somebody saying 00:10:53.919 --> 00:10:55.400 this is real value, guys. 00:10:56.400 --> 00:10:57.880 Like, nobody will believe you. 00:10:57.880 --> 00:10:59.000 There'll be, and then there'll be, 00:10:59.000 --> 00:10:59.840 somebody else will be like, 00:10:59.840 --> 00:11:02.000 well, okay, but here's my competitive product 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:03.440 that's even better. 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:04.599 Yeah. 00:11:04.599 --> 00:11:05.479 Yeah. 00:11:05.479 --> 00:11:06.919 The thing about Sovereign Individual, 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:09.880 I mean, many of the things that that book really 00:11:09.880 --> 00:11:12.599 just totally gets right, 00:11:12.599 --> 00:11:14.280 but one of the things that sticks with me 00:11:14.280 --> 00:11:19.280 is the industrial revolution really being the thing 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:23.960 that allowed for the superpowers 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:27.159 that we've experienced over the last 100 years 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:30.880 to even exist, and that concentration of wealth 00:11:30.880 --> 00:11:32.440 and concentration of factories 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:34.320 and concentration of people in one spot 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:35.599 made it really easy for the government 00:11:35.599 --> 00:11:38.599 to just go and be like, well, we're gonna take your shit, 00:11:38.599 --> 00:11:40.840 we're gonna tax you, we're gonna do whatever, 00:11:42.359 --> 00:11:45.919 and, you know, the decentralization 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:49.239 of manufacturing capability, robots, 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:53.000 energy sources, whatever, you know, all of that. 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:55.080 Bitcoin, you know, being a key component 00:11:55.080 --> 00:11:58.280 of the capital behind that, you know, 00:11:58.280 --> 00:12:00.320 it just, it always seemed very much so 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:03.280 like we were going back to what the world was previously, 00:12:03.280 --> 00:12:07.159 which was a lot of, you know, multipolar powers, 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:09.719 a lot of people vying for power, 00:12:09.719 --> 00:12:10.880 and I don't think that necessarily 00:12:10.880 --> 00:12:12.200 has to mean more conflict. 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:13.440 I think it can mean less conflict, 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:16.599 but there's just not Russia, China, the United States, 00:12:16.599 --> 00:12:17.840 these giant superpowers. 00:12:17.880 --> 00:12:18.719 There's actually one thing 00:12:18.719 --> 00:12:21.640 that they kind of brought out in the book is you, 00:12:21.640 --> 00:12:23.359 there actually was less conflict 00:12:23.359 --> 00:12:27.000 because everybody kind of just understood 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:29.159 the different like social constructs 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:30.280 because at the end of the day, it's like, 00:12:30.280 --> 00:12:31.960 oh, and one of the things like, you know, 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:34.880 you have to go to college, to Costa Nostra, 00:12:34.880 --> 00:12:37.479 like city college, like community college or whatever 00:12:37.479 --> 00:12:39.479 to get like a five-year degree to deliver pizza. 00:12:39.479 --> 00:12:41.760 Pizza college, yeah, pizza college. 00:12:41.760 --> 00:12:43.960 It's awesome, it's a phenomenal book, 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:46.239 I highly recommend it, but it's like, 00:12:46.239 --> 00:12:48.719 because, you know, to deliver these pizzas, 00:12:48.719 --> 00:12:50.640 you have to understand how to drive on these roads 00:12:50.640 --> 00:12:53.119 where you're flying like 600 miles an hour 00:12:53.119 --> 00:12:56.719 in these crazy, thanks camera, I need to fix this, 00:12:56.719 --> 00:12:59.359 in these crazy streets of LA 00:12:59.359 --> 00:13:00.599 where everything's going wild. 00:13:00.599 --> 00:13:04.599 And so, yeah, it's just, 00:13:04.599 --> 00:13:07.080 it's a really interesting take on everything. 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:10.159 Like part of it's run by the mob, like it's cool. 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:13.919 Dope, dope. 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:18.440 One of the things that comes to mind 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:20.159 in thinking about it is just how does, 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:24.359 like some individual thesis on it was, 00:13:24.359 --> 00:13:25.799 it's kind of more intellectual, 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:27.400 hey, this is how we're gonna lay it out. 00:13:27.400 --> 00:13:31.080 And you kind of get the impression that he's just like, 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:33.039 well, what's really gonna happen is that 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:35.200 everybody's gonna move to the Bahamas 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:37.840 because it's the Bahamas. 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:39.840 And it's like, there's something nagging 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:41.559 in the back of my mind that says, 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:44.440 no, because there's nothing in the Bahamas. 00:13:44.440 --> 00:13:46.960 There's just nice beaches and that's, 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:48.599 there's no people, there's no economy, 00:13:48.599 --> 00:13:52.359 there's no industry, there's no like inventive community, 00:13:52.359 --> 00:13:54.080 there's no creative community. 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:58.000 It's just people trying to escape everyone. 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:01.280 Like that's not a community of people. 00:14:01.280 --> 00:14:04.200 If everyone's there because they're trying to escape, 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:06.039 bro, nobody wants to be your friend 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:08.119 because they're all trying to escape each other. 00:14:08.119 --> 00:14:10.359 Like it's just, this is not a good community. 00:14:10.359 --> 00:14:12.320 It's not a good space, right? 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:15.679 The alternative or the other side of that coin is like, 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:18.440 no, you're gonna wanna be in a large community. 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:21.320 You're gonna wanna be in a diverse community 00:14:21.320 --> 00:14:24.280 and surrounded by people who are doing interesting things 00:14:24.280 --> 00:14:25.760 and pushing in interesting ways 00:14:25.760 --> 00:14:27.960 and building interesting things 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:30.919 and being creative and all the rest of that. 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:33.520 Now, that's what you get in Snow Crash. 00:14:33.520 --> 00:14:35.960 Snow Crash is this dystopian meta, 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:40.280 like we're talking about communities on top of communities, 00:14:40.280 --> 00:14:41.719 which your local communities 00:14:41.719 --> 00:14:45.000 have all these weird political systems in the legacy world 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:46.960 that are all kind of, some of them are working, 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:48.039 some of them are falling apart, 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:49.919 but then you also have the metaverse, 00:14:49.919 --> 00:14:51.880 which is like your pristine, like, 00:14:51.880 --> 00:14:53.960 hey, this is where I live. 00:14:53.960 --> 00:14:55.159 Like this is my office. 00:14:55.159 --> 00:14:59.840 This is like what I believe is where my identity is 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:00.679 and like all this other stuff. 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:02.960 And that really kind of jumps into that. 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:06.960 And you get to see these two worlds collide, if you will. 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:11.280 Yeah, and the dystopia that is the real world as well, 00:15:11.280 --> 00:15:14.440 which is funny, which is kind of the similar thing to like, 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:16.880 one of my favorite movies actually of the last decade 00:15:16.880 --> 00:15:18.280 is Ready Player One. 00:15:18.280 --> 00:15:19.799 If it's on an airplane, I'm watching it. 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:20.719 Like it doesn't matter. 00:15:20.719 --> 00:15:22.799 I've probably seen it a thousand times. 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:25.280 Judge me, that's fine. 00:15:25.280 --> 00:15:30.000 But it's just the escapism, it's the voyeurism 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:33.119 that I think humans are the novelty. 00:15:33.119 --> 00:15:34.559 That's probably the best word, the better way to say it. 00:15:34.559 --> 00:15:36.479 But it's like the novelty we're so used to. 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:40.440 It's like, we just love this novel nature of the digital, 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:43.719 which the digital allows us to do so quickly. 00:15:43.719 --> 00:15:45.840 And I think that's gonna be one of the greatest things 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:50.840 about kind of the future is there is a great desire 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:53.280 to go somewhere like Mars, 00:15:53.280 --> 00:15:54.440 because there's novelty in it 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:55.679 and to go somewhere like Pluto, 00:15:55.679 --> 00:15:57.119 because there's novelty in it. 00:15:57.119 --> 00:15:59.520 And so there's this great desire for the unknown, 00:15:59.520 --> 00:16:03.239 just like Star Trek, but by the same token, 00:16:03.239 --> 00:16:04.559 that could also be our downfall. 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:06.400 It's like, okay, well, maybe there's an interesting thing 00:16:06.400 --> 00:16:08.359 if somebody wants to see the world burn 00:16:08.359 --> 00:16:10.599 and like launch a nuclear attack or whatever it is. 00:16:10.599 --> 00:16:13.880 So I don't know if you believe nukes are real, but yeah. 00:16:13.880 --> 00:16:15.080 Well, that's kind of a premise, 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:16.320 I mean, jumping off to another book, 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:19.760 but that's kind of the premise behind the Expanse 00:16:19.760 --> 00:16:20.679 and that whole series. 00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:23.039 I don't know if you guys have seen that, 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:24.679 but I highly recommend it. 00:16:24.679 --> 00:16:29.679 Very, it bridges the gap between like now 00:16:31.239 --> 00:16:33.320 and Star Wars or Star Trek. 00:16:33.359 --> 00:16:36.400 So it's like, no, we literally have not left 00:16:36.400 --> 00:16:39.919 the solar system, but we've done the whole solar system. 00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:42.039 And so we've got all like, you know, 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:44.039 we have spaceships and stuff, 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:46.039 but it's really like we can't figure out 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:49.799 how to jump to light speed or above. 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:53.000 And so it really jumps into the politics 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:57.000 and the social systems within our solar system. 00:16:57.000 --> 00:16:59.280 And yeah, JD, you get like at one point, 00:16:59.280 --> 00:17:01.880 one of the characters starts bombarding 00:17:02.880 --> 00:17:07.880 Earth with meteors because he was raised in the belt 00:17:10.199 --> 00:17:11.760 or the outer rim or whatever. 00:17:11.760 --> 00:17:15.040 And he hates it. 00:17:15.040 --> 00:17:15.880 Well, of course he does, 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:17.359 because Earth has treated him like shit 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:19.079 his whole existence, right? 00:17:19.079 --> 00:17:21.319 It's just like, F these guys. 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:23.839 Like we're talking about totally different 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:25.839 political factions, right? 00:17:25.839 --> 00:17:27.160 Amen. 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:30.000 Rednecks existed long time, man. 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:31.560 You know, there's always going to be conflict 00:17:32.239 --> 00:17:35.000 between people in the mountains and people in cities. 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:36.400 It's a circle of life, man. 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:38.079 It's part of how it goes, you know, 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:39.680 ain't one better than the other. 00:17:43.199 --> 00:17:44.479 I don't know. 00:17:44.479 --> 00:17:46.599 Okay, riddle me this guys. 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:51.599 I don't understand the whole terraforming Mars thing. 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:54.119 I mean, I get it on the one level of like, yes, 00:17:54.119 --> 00:17:57.359 if, you know, there's a fucking meteor that rolls by 00:17:57.359 --> 00:17:59.199 and destroys Earth, we need like, you know, 00:17:59.199 --> 00:18:00.560 moon base two or whatever. 00:18:00.560 --> 00:18:02.040 Okay, fine, I get that. 00:18:02.040 --> 00:18:07.040 But other than that, the idea like, 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:09.439 this is how it comes off to me. 00:18:09.439 --> 00:18:10.520 Tell me where I'm wrong. 00:18:10.520 --> 00:18:12.400 The idea like, oh man, Earth is fucked. 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:13.280 We got to go to Mars. 00:18:13.280 --> 00:18:15.640 Like, what? 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.239 Have y'all motherfuckers seen Mars? 00:18:18.239 --> 00:18:22.119 I don't, we could just fix Earth. 00:18:23.520 --> 00:18:25.880 Yeah, that's the escapism attitude, 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:27.760 like take to the nth degree. 00:18:27.760 --> 00:18:30.680 No, let's really not face our problems. 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:33.599 Let's just totally feed on our problems and ignore them. 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:36.640 And we'll just go away. 00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:38.880 Like there's actually, I mean, 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:42.280 C.S. Lewis' The Great Divorce was like about this, 00:18:42.280 --> 00:18:44.560 literally like, oh yeah, hell is the, 00:18:44.560 --> 00:18:47.079 one of the definitional qualities of hell 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:49.680 is that no one actually has to face any of the problems. 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:51.839 They can just move further away 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:53.160 and build whatever they want 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:55.599 and have all the resources they need and blah, blah, blah. 00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:57.000 Just move further away. 00:18:57.000 --> 00:18:59.439 So you don't have to deal with the other people, right? 00:18:59.439 --> 00:19:04.439 Like C.S. Lewis has a vision of that is what hell is. 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:07.640 Escaping just everyone all the time. 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:09.400 Like, oh, look at the surface of Mars. 00:19:09.400 --> 00:19:10.800 Well, it's pretty much hell. 00:19:12.520 --> 00:19:13.359 Let's go there. 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:14.199 It'll be great. 00:19:14.199 --> 00:19:15.640 Yeah, we got to do it. 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:16.520 I will say though, 00:19:16.520 --> 00:19:19.760 the one thing that's unique about the Mars thing 00:19:19.760 --> 00:19:22.680 is if you walk everything out far enough, 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:24.839 at the end of the day, 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:27.920 our sun is going to supernova. 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:29.599 That's just the way it works, right? 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:31.359 And so there is a- 00:19:31.359 --> 00:19:33.040 I don't believe in stars. 00:19:33.040 --> 00:19:33.880 I don't believe in stars. 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:34.719 Stars aren't real. 00:19:34.719 --> 00:19:37.160 Camera, this is so sad. 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:38.239 But at the end of the day, 00:19:38.239 --> 00:19:40.160 I was talking to some folks the other day 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:41.400 and they're just like, your camera always do this? 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:43.040 I was like, yes, it doesn't matter what computer I'm on. 00:19:43.040 --> 00:19:44.280 Like, you probably need a new router 00:19:44.280 --> 00:19:45.119 and all this other stuff. 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:45.959 And I'm like, God. 00:19:45.959 --> 00:19:48.920 And it's actually the router at the box 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:50.959 or at the, that comes in from my fiber 00:19:50.959 --> 00:19:53.359 because it's every computer. 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:54.760 But anyways, 00:19:57.160 --> 00:19:58.400 there is going to be a time 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:00.280 when the world is going to be engulfed 00:20:00.280 --> 00:20:01.560 in some type of supernova 00:20:01.560 --> 00:20:04.719 and then buried in a black hole 00:20:04.719 --> 00:20:06.599 because the sun is going to go out. 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:08.439 Now, is that going to be in the next five years? 00:20:08.439 --> 00:20:09.400 Probably not. 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:11.880 But it's one of those things 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:15.479 that on a long enough time horizon, it's going to happen. 00:20:15.479 --> 00:20:18.640 And so even though I know Mars is, 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:23.040 for me as a believer in God, 00:20:23.719 --> 00:20:25.239 but then also I believe God is the God of the universe. 00:20:25.239 --> 00:20:26.599 And I do actually think, 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:30.839 I do think part of the game as an interesting thing, 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:33.479 I know it's like, I don't think God is a gamer, 00:20:33.479 --> 00:20:35.319 but I do think part of the thing is like, 00:20:35.319 --> 00:20:37.079 hey, I made these things. 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:38.719 Will they figure it out? 00:20:38.719 --> 00:20:39.560 Like, will they survive? 00:20:39.560 --> 00:20:40.920 Can they get off the rock? 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:41.760 Ooh, I don't know. 00:20:41.760 --> 00:20:44.199 Like, it's like kind of an interesting thing 00:20:44.199 --> 00:20:48.800 because I feel the belief I have 00:20:48.800 --> 00:20:50.439 is the reason God knows everything. 00:20:50.439 --> 00:20:52.199 And the reason everything is like recycled, right? 00:20:52.199 --> 00:20:54.839 It's like every animal has veins, right? 00:20:54.839 --> 00:20:56.680 And those veins pump blood, right? 00:20:56.680 --> 00:20:58.359 It's like all these, oh, that works. 00:20:58.359 --> 00:21:01.640 That's an effective system for getting things around. 00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:03.199 And so it's like, okay, I'm going to reuse this. 00:21:03.199 --> 00:21:06.839 And so in my mind, one of the challenges we have 00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:09.439 is as a species and as a creation 00:21:09.439 --> 00:21:14.439 is the desire and need effectively to be interplanetary. 00:21:15.439 --> 00:21:18.880 Yeah, I think ultimately, totally necessary, 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:21.439 you know, totally on board with that. 00:21:21.439 --> 00:21:23.800 But I always just crack up at the like, 00:21:23.800 --> 00:21:25.800 Earth is super fucked, let's go to Mars. 00:21:25.800 --> 00:21:27.119 Yeah, yeah. 00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:29.839 Well, we have Teslas here and Teslas in the United States. 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:30.680 Yeah. 00:21:31.959 --> 00:21:34.079 No, yeah, JD, I tend to agree with you on that. 00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:39.079 What's going to happen is we're going to terraform the stars 00:21:39.119 --> 00:21:41.680 just because it's like, oh, this will be fun. 00:21:41.959 --> 00:21:43.640 It's like, oh, this will be fun. 00:21:43.640 --> 00:21:46.599 And also, you know, natural resources and whatever else, 00:21:46.599 --> 00:21:48.599 but it's going to be like, oh, this is going to be like, 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:49.920 that's going to be cool. 00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:51.239 Let's do that, right? 00:21:51.239 --> 00:21:54.640 Yeah, imagine being a robber baron of the stars, 00:21:54.640 --> 00:21:56.599 the Rockefeller of space. 00:21:56.599 --> 00:21:59.319 Yeah, and I think that that's part of the human story too, 00:21:59.319 --> 00:22:03.280 which is, oh, well, we have this land here 00:22:03.280 --> 00:22:07.359 and like, for instance, pre-battle, 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:10.280 and then God's like, no, you're going to, 00:22:10.439 --> 00:22:11.640 you're going to go everywhere. 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:13.479 And then like, you know, civilization, 00:22:13.479 --> 00:22:16.040 Western civilization says, oh, we're going to have, 00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:19.880 you know, we're going to make Europe this really, 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:21.640 this is where civilization is. 00:22:21.640 --> 00:22:26.640 And then, oh, well, we just discovered America. 00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:29.520 Well, there's all sorts of reasons why we need to go there 00:22:29.520 --> 00:22:31.199 and figure that out and explore that. 00:22:31.199 --> 00:22:34.920 Like just because of our interests and curiosity 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:38.599 and oh, there's also resources there that we can use it. 00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:40.280 Like this solves some of our problems. 00:22:40.280 --> 00:22:41.880 We can go take this back. 00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:44.719 And I think that that pattern just kind of continues. 00:22:44.719 --> 00:22:45.680 And I don't think it, 00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:48.119 I think that's a part of the human story, honestly, 00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:50.959 because we're meant to go out. 00:22:50.959 --> 00:22:51.920 We're meant to come back. 00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:52.920 We're meant to explore. 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:56.719 We're meant to build and build and build. 00:22:58.280 --> 00:22:59.119 100%. 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:03.199 How long do you think it takes for Peter Schiff 00:23:03.199 --> 00:23:05.520 to capitulate after we find gold on a meteorite 00:23:05.520 --> 00:23:06.520 that we can harvest? 00:23:07.520 --> 00:23:08.359 Never. 00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:10.160 He's never capitulating. 00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:12.359 And in fact, he has been right. 00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:13.199 Gold is. 00:23:14.959 --> 00:23:15.959 He's not wrong. 00:23:15.959 --> 00:23:18.439 Bitcoiners don't want to admit it. 00:23:18.439 --> 00:23:21.920 Peter Schiff wins this round, son of a bitch. 00:23:23.040 --> 00:23:25.280 I mean, gold is down $14 today, 00:23:25.280 --> 00:23:29.599 but it is up significantly on the year. 00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:33.839 On the year, it is up 10%. 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:37.119 So this one to you, Mr. Schiff. 00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:41.239 So JD, going back to your original reason 00:23:41.239 --> 00:23:43.239 for bringing up the snow crash thing, 00:23:43.239 --> 00:23:45.520 what's your vision for LA? 00:23:45.520 --> 00:23:50.520 Like with all of those details and nuances considered. 00:23:50.719 --> 00:23:54.439 Yeah, I'm actually really, you know, 00:23:54.439 --> 00:23:55.920 I do think it's going to get worse 00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:57.839 before it gets better, unfortunately. 00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:01.560 But I think there's going to be an interesting opportunity 00:24:01.560 --> 00:24:03.880 and we're kind of at this moment 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:07.599 with Altadena burning down and with, you know, 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:10.640 the Palisades burning down to reshape 00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:12.239 and rebuild some of these communities 00:24:12.239 --> 00:24:16.479 in a more 21st century way. 00:24:16.479 --> 00:24:21.479 I'm optimistic that it can be around a church and a school. 00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:26.119 And I would actually argue that the best school is a farm, 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:27.479 but that's a little bit different. 00:24:27.479 --> 00:24:29.599 But I think it would be, you know, 00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:30.760 it's going to be interesting to see 00:24:30.760 --> 00:24:32.319 how those communities rebuild. 00:24:34.479 --> 00:24:37.160 And if they can be rebuilt in a walking fashion, 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:39.439 in a more Euro style fashion. 00:24:39.439 --> 00:24:41.640 It's going to be harder just because I know Americans 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:43.359 are, we're a car horse. 00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:44.199 We like our cars. 00:24:44.199 --> 00:24:45.439 I didn't know you were a communist, JD. 00:24:45.439 --> 00:24:48.199 What is this, 15 minute city, smart city? 00:24:48.199 --> 00:24:49.319 Get the fuck out of here. 00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:51.920 Don't want 15 minute cities, don't want smart cities. 00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:55.920 I want as many guns as possible. 00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:59.079 But I do think there's a really interesting 00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:02.599 and cool opportunity to build citadels again. 00:25:02.599 --> 00:25:04.760 And I'm sorry, build cathedrals again. 00:25:04.760 --> 00:25:08.199 And, you know, kind of re-point people 00:25:08.199 --> 00:25:09.959 back towards the stars. 00:25:09.959 --> 00:25:14.119 And I'm saying specifically God and heaven, but we'll see. 00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:15.520 It's going to be a long, hard road. 00:25:15.520 --> 00:25:18.640 And I think the bigger challenge we're going to have is, 00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:20.520 you know, because the money is broken, 00:25:20.520 --> 00:25:23.040 it's going to be way easier for those 15, 00:25:23.040 --> 00:25:24.760 for 15 minute cities to arrive. 00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:26.560 Cause that's not what I want. 00:25:26.560 --> 00:25:28.719 I don't want 15 minute cities. 00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:32.400 What I want is, you know, the sovereign, 00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:33.359 and I don't know what that looks like. 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:34.760 I don't know what that looks like. 00:25:34.760 --> 00:25:37.439 But I want the sovereign individual aspect of things, 00:25:37.439 --> 00:25:39.319 which is probably closer to Snow Crash. 00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:41.560 I just don't want it to be as dystopian as Snow Crash. 00:25:41.560 --> 00:25:44.959 It looks like basic property rights being respected. 00:25:44.959 --> 00:25:46.599 It's really just not complicated. 00:25:48.280 --> 00:25:49.119 It's fair. 00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:50.719 But they're not going to, and they don't. 00:25:50.719 --> 00:25:51.959 Yeah, it's fair. 00:25:51.959 --> 00:25:53.359 What do you think, Zach? 00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:56.000 What's your take on how this all shakes out? 00:25:59.239 --> 00:26:01.520 With respect to the fires, or just LA in general? 00:26:01.520 --> 00:26:03.119 Just LA in general, like, you know, 00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:04.239 LA in general, yeah. 00:26:06.479 --> 00:26:10.119 Okay, good news first, I guess. 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.199 All of this is reversible like that. 00:26:16.040 --> 00:26:18.920 Snap of a finger, and we can be back to 00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:24.880 massive economic expansion, prices down, quality up. 00:26:25.719 --> 00:26:27.760 So I think the potential is there for this 00:26:27.760 --> 00:26:30.079 to do a very quick turnaround. 00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:34.800 But unfortunately, I don't think that it's going to happen. 00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:40.040 I think that it will probably be another 25 to 50 years. 00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:44.319 And I always go 25 and 50 years because, you know, 00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:46.400 I just think in terms of generations. 00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:49.359 Is the current generation of, 00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:52.199 is the current cohort of kids in any position 00:26:52.199 --> 00:26:54.400 to do anything about what's going on around them? 00:26:55.280 --> 00:26:56.400 No, they're not. 00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:00.000 Boomers still have another 15 or 20 years 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:01.959 before they're totally dead and gone. 00:27:01.959 --> 00:27:03.560 Sorry to be morbid about it. 00:27:03.560 --> 00:27:05.599 But from a power perspective, 00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:08.400 that's the battle that's being fought right now. 00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:09.920 And boomers are going to hold onto that 00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:11.520 for as long as humanly possible. 00:27:12.719 --> 00:27:14.560 The other element of it is that, 00:27:17.280 --> 00:27:18.760 and this is LA specific, 00:27:18.760 --> 00:27:21.400 this isn't necessarily true for NorCal, 00:27:21.439 --> 00:27:24.479 excluding San Francisco and Marin County, 00:27:24.479 --> 00:27:28.439 but LA specifically, so many of the people 00:27:28.439 --> 00:27:32.800 who would be necessary and useful 00:27:32.800 --> 00:27:35.680 in the political fight to come have left. 00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:37.199 And I think that we're going to continue 00:27:37.199 --> 00:27:40.040 to see that bifurcation in the United States. 00:27:40.040 --> 00:27:42.160 I think that is going to speed up. 00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:43.719 I think it's going to get more severe. 00:27:43.719 --> 00:27:44.920 I think we're going to continue 00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:47.400 to see red versus blue bifurcation. 00:27:47.760 --> 00:27:52.520 And I think that California will become bluer and bluer. 00:27:54.560 --> 00:27:57.160 And I have hope that the fires 00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:00.119 could do something for this politically, 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.680 but I just, I haven't seen any indication 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:08.680 that there's even a modicum of intellectual rigor here 00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:11.239 with regards to voting. 00:28:11.239 --> 00:28:14.439 Case in point, they just voted another tax increase here 00:28:14.439 --> 00:28:16.839 that went into effect yesterday or whatever. 00:28:17.280 --> 00:28:20.000 You got people in LA paying nearly 11%. 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:22.680 You got Palmdale paying like 11 and a half percent. 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:24.719 Like what, sales tax, like what? 00:28:24.719 --> 00:28:26.400 And they voted this in for people 00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:27.719 to solve the homeless problem 00:28:27.719 --> 00:28:30.800 of which nothing has been done for the last 10 years 00:28:30.800 --> 00:28:33.640 despite four, five, $6 billion being thrown at it. 00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:38.640 So the voting block is like clearly not aware at all. 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:41.719 Or real. 00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:46.680 Yeah, when I hear that, when I encounter that, 00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:48.880 it's like a hundred percent valid, yeah. 00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:52.760 The thing that gets me, I think it's just a matter of, 00:28:54.520 --> 00:28:57.040 it's just a matter of this, 00:28:57.040 --> 00:28:58.560 there's going to be a switch in people's mind 00:28:58.560 --> 00:29:00.000 where they're like, wait a second, 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:03.079 the policies and anybody who's paying any attention 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:03.920 already knows this. 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:06.760 And you see tweets about it all like every day, 00:29:06.760 --> 00:29:09.439 which is the policies for the right are this, 00:29:09.439 --> 00:29:11.439 which are completely brain dead. 00:29:11.719 --> 00:29:13.239 These policies are brain dead. 00:29:13.239 --> 00:29:15.800 The policies for left are this, which are brain dead. 00:29:15.800 --> 00:29:16.640 All these policies, 00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:19.520 it's like the same people in the same absurdity 00:29:19.520 --> 00:29:20.560 just all over again. 00:29:20.560 --> 00:29:23.119 You're like, wait a second, this is, at some point, 00:29:24.760 --> 00:29:27.400 you go through the process of, oh, what's insanity? 00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:28.359 Well, it's just doing the same thing 00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:29.319 over and over and over again 00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:31.640 and getting the same results over and over again, 00:29:31.640 --> 00:29:33.640 thinking you're going to get different results, right? 00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:35.319 Like everyone knows that this is the case. 00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:37.439 This is a part of our culture. 00:29:37.439 --> 00:29:39.479 And yet we're still here doing this. 00:29:39.520 --> 00:29:43.040 I genuinely think that there's going to come, 00:29:43.040 --> 00:29:45.199 there's going to be a groundswell 00:29:45.199 --> 00:29:46.959 that basically says, wait a second, 00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:52.959 once you see that fiat is the problem, you don't unsee it. 00:29:52.959 --> 00:29:54.959 And the more people who see that 00:29:54.959 --> 00:29:56.719 are going to start believing that 00:29:56.719 --> 00:29:58.959 and they're just going to convince more people. 00:29:58.959 --> 00:30:01.000 At some point it becomes a, wait a second, 00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:02.160 we've tried everything. 00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:03.680 Everything's still broken. 00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:05.880 Why is it still broken? 00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:08.920 And then they're going to have to turn to other solutions. 00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:10.839 In the past, those other solutions 00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:13.119 have always been revolution, right? 00:30:14.040 --> 00:30:16.160 We can't, our voice doesn't matter. 00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:18.839 Therefore, we have to revert to violence. 00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:21.880 JD, I think that you're like, yep, 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:22.719 that's what's going to happen next. 00:30:22.719 --> 00:30:23.959 I think that still needs to happen. 00:30:23.959 --> 00:30:25.160 Well, I mean, it's still happening, right? 00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:30.000 Like we're literally seeing Tesla's get vandalized everyday. 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:31.719 Now, the next- 00:30:31.719 --> 00:30:33.079 And that's actually why I think 00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:35.079 we're on track for another revolution. 00:30:35.079 --> 00:30:37.040 Because the problem is there's enough, 00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:41.599 JFK and Ronald Reagan killed America. 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:44.280 When they got rid of asylums, they killed America. 00:30:44.280 --> 00:30:47.680 Now, the problem is it's really difficult 00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:50.719 to know who's crazy when everybody's on Xanax. 00:30:50.719 --> 00:30:53.560 Right, so here's the point I'm trying to get to. 00:30:53.560 --> 00:30:56.560 Because the conversation always gets cut off 00:30:56.560 --> 00:30:58.079 right at this point and everyone's like, 00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:00.719 well, I've got the solution, I swear, we got it. 00:31:00.719 --> 00:31:02.640 Like, here's what's going to happen next. 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:07.479 I'm like, no, you guys, the entire game theoretical 00:31:07.479 --> 00:31:09.439 and political structure of reality 00:31:09.439 --> 00:31:11.800 has changed since Bitcoin. 00:31:11.800 --> 00:31:14.400 All of the stuff that the Sovereign Individual 00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:18.359 book talks about, all of that exists presently today. 00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:23.199 You cannot expect the same returns on violence 00:31:23.199 --> 00:31:24.680 that you could in times past 00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:26.880 because of the things that you were talking about. 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:29.599 All of the centralization of factories and everything else, 00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:31.040 that's now distributed. 00:31:31.040 --> 00:31:34.160 There's no like, oh, well, we're going to have to, 00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:36.800 if we just draw a line around this area, 00:31:36.800 --> 00:31:38.079 then it'll be under control. 00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:39.359 And it's like, that's not the case anymore. 00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:40.479 Nobody thinks that's the case. 00:31:40.479 --> 00:31:43.199 It's like ridiculous to think that's the case, right? 00:31:43.199 --> 00:31:46.719 Now, oh, okay, well, maybe the line, 00:31:46.719 --> 00:31:48.680 maybe we can do it like drones, right? 00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:51.520 Like we'll just unleash 100,000 drones 00:31:51.520 --> 00:31:53.400 and each person will have a drone 00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:54.959 like just hovering over their head all day. 00:31:54.959 --> 00:31:56.640 And if they try to, and it's like, okay, 00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:59.719 well, that's just asking for evolution. 00:31:59.719 --> 00:32:01.800 So it's just never going to work that way. 00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:08.479 That's when we get to, maybe there's an economic solution. 00:32:08.479 --> 00:32:10.160 Maybe the problem is fiat 00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:13.040 and maybe the economic solution is Bitcoin. 00:32:13.040 --> 00:32:15.160 And when you go down that path, 00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:17.599 you realize that, yes, that's the solution. 00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:20.520 And yes, that actually illuminates 00:32:20.520 --> 00:32:21.920 every single one of our problems. 00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:25.239 It shows us that, wow, I didn't realize 00:32:25.239 --> 00:32:27.239 that like this was actually the problem. 00:32:27.280 --> 00:32:30.640 When there's no accountability in the money, 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:32.280 well, then you're not going to have, 00:32:32.280 --> 00:32:33.880 you're not going to solve your homelessness problem. 00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:35.680 You're just going to be paying all these nonprofits 00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:38.640 to bankroll more and more people, right? 00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:41.280 Like it's never going to solve the homeless problem. 00:32:41.280 --> 00:32:42.680 Oh, when there's inflation in your money, 00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:44.760 you're always going to have more homeless 00:32:44.760 --> 00:32:46.880 because the cost of housing is always up. 00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:50.160 Oh, okay, well, this is about the money all of a sudden. 00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:51.959 And when people start to realize that, 00:32:51.959 --> 00:32:54.359 when people start to actually internalize that 00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:58.319 and see that there's a solution that's not revolution, 00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:00.680 they're going to choose Bitcoin. 00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:02.680 Everybody's going to choose Bitcoin. 00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:04.839 Just like, it's just the exact same thing 00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:07.239 that's happening in the boardrooms 00:33:07.239 --> 00:33:08.479 of all these major companies 00:33:08.479 --> 00:33:09.880 that are trying to adopt Bitcoin. 00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:10.920 Oh, what are our options? 00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:12.160 Well, we can buy gold. 00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:15.839 Why would, like, this is ridiculous to buy gold, 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:17.800 like et cetera, or whatever they're thinking. 00:33:17.800 --> 00:33:19.040 Oh, we can buy Bitcoin. 00:33:19.040 --> 00:33:20.880 Like, actually that kind of is interesting. 00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:23.520 It's forward thinking, it's different. 00:33:23.560 --> 00:33:24.800 So. 00:33:24.800 --> 00:33:27.119 I think it's, I think that's, I think that's true. 00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:29.119 I think the timeline, I mean, obviously, 00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:30.839 I think everybody will figure Bitcoin out, 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:32.640 but I think the timeline of, 00:33:34.959 --> 00:33:35.800 I'll put it this way. 00:33:35.800 --> 00:33:39.079 I think California collapses before it gets rebuilt. 00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:41.800 I don't think that it makes, you know, 00:33:41.800 --> 00:33:44.599 a U-turn on the direction that it's going. 00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:46.800 And for one primary reason, 00:33:46.800 --> 00:33:50.640 which is your hypothesis on that point, Bondor, 00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:55.640 was requires an element of self-awareness 00:33:57.760 --> 00:34:01.479 and a willingness to seek the truth, 00:34:01.479 --> 00:34:05.280 which is the polar opposite of the leftism 00:34:05.280 --> 00:34:07.920 that has taken over parts of this state. 00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:11.280 They don't, they just don't have that capacity. 00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:14.199 They literally don't care. 00:34:15.919 --> 00:34:19.159 And so I think that they will self-immolate 00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:24.199 before rational entities and people and organizations 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:25.919 can kind of sweep back in, 00:34:25.919 --> 00:34:27.560 clean up the mess and rebuild the state. 00:34:27.560 --> 00:34:29.080 I think that kind of goes to this whole thing 00:34:29.080 --> 00:34:30.120 of the nationalism. 00:34:30.120 --> 00:34:31.800 And this is part of the sovereign individual thesis 00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:34.959 is like nationalism as backlash. 00:34:34.959 --> 00:34:39.959 I would argue that woke-ism is a nationality. 00:34:40.560 --> 00:34:44.000 I would argue that the ideology of the left 00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.760 is a national, is a national. 00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:48.959 And you can probably argue the same thing 00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:50.600 for the right. 00:34:50.600 --> 00:34:52.840 Trump-ism is also just national. 00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:54.080 Both of them are nationalism. 00:34:54.080 --> 00:34:56.000 They're just for different nations within. 00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:58.919 And that's the kind of ideology that we have, yeah. 00:34:58.919 --> 00:35:00.639 Yeah, and so I think what's really interesting 00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:02.800 if you look at this, and if you haven't read this book, 00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:04.399 these are all the theses that they had 00:35:04.399 --> 00:35:06.360 and they were pretty damn spot on. 00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:08.239 And like the end of the welfare state by 2010. 00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:10.840 So they were off, I think on that, 00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:12.000 because we're in 2025 now, 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:14.959 but I actually think the end of the welfare state is coming. 00:35:14.959 --> 00:35:18.120 That'll come, I think maybe mid 2030s at the earliest. 00:35:19.959 --> 00:35:22.520 I think, I actually think the nationalism, 00:35:22.520 --> 00:35:24.639 I don't think the left are nationalistic. 00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:29.639 They're ideological at best 00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:34.080 and don't have any respect for the nation that they're in 00:35:34.080 --> 00:35:35.120 or wherever they're at. 00:35:35.120 --> 00:35:36.919 It doesn't matter where they're at. 00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:42.000 So I see that as a backlash to the, 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.840 I see nationalism as a backlash to the ultra left-ism 00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:47.040 that we've been going through for 35 years. 00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:50.040 But of course it can be 00:35:50.040 --> 00:35:53.080 its own ideological nightmare as well. 00:35:53.080 --> 00:35:54.800 So one of the things I keep, 00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:56.719 like I always just come back to this thought 00:35:56.719 --> 00:35:59.239 and that's the game theory around Bitcoin. 00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:01.280 Every time somebody gets converted to Bitcoin, 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:03.159 they don't, I mean, apart from people 00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:05.840 who convert to Bitcoin and then get into shit coins 00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:09.479 or like, oh, well, it was just a right-wing extremist group 00:36:09.479 --> 00:36:12.280 or whatever random conclusion they come to. 00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.679 The people who actually figure it out, get to it, 00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:16.639 they're like, wait a second. 00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:18.560 People who are interested in the truth, 00:36:19.560 --> 00:36:20.879 and there's basically nothing, 00:36:20.879 --> 00:36:22.320 they become the intolerant minority. 00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:25.919 There's nothing that the left or the right can do 00:36:25.919 --> 00:36:27.520 to convince them otherwise. 00:36:27.520 --> 00:36:30.159 And it becomes easier for all of the legacy systems 00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:34.560 and all of the legacy processes to just not fight Bitcoin 00:36:34.560 --> 00:36:36.360 and instead to just adopt it. 00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:37.919 And then when they adopt it, 00:36:37.919 --> 00:36:40.199 the same incentives that change somebody 00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:44.280 from being bought into the legacy world, 00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:46.080 but after the truth, 00:36:46.080 --> 00:36:47.520 and then they get into Bitcoin and they're like, 00:36:47.560 --> 00:36:50.479 oh, well, this is a higher truth that makes more sense 00:36:50.479 --> 00:36:52.479 and blah, blah, blah, solve all these problems. 00:36:52.479 --> 00:36:57.320 Okay, so it basically just kind of in a subversive way 00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:00.080 infiltrates all of the legacy systems. 00:37:00.080 --> 00:37:02.000 Everybody at a company that's like, 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:04.560 oh, I guess we're gonna buy Bitcoin now 00:37:04.560 --> 00:37:06.800 because it's a memeable thing to do. 00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:08.600 Like, that's gonna be on their balance sheet 00:37:08.600 --> 00:37:09.840 and then they're gonna be responsible 00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:12.199 and then they're gonna have to look up, 00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:13.280 what have we done? 00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:15.199 I think we'll figure it out from there. 00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:16.800 And everybody has to go down the rabbit hole. 00:37:17.120 --> 00:37:19.239 We're literally every single person on earth 00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:22.360 is on the same journey that ends at Bitcoin 00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:24.439 or is beyond Bitcoin. 00:37:24.439 --> 00:37:26.840 And we're all just at different stages of the journey. 00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:29.600 The future is here, it's just not evenly distributed yet. 00:37:29.600 --> 00:37:33.199 Yeah, I'm very optimistic that, 00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.679 I think the most interesting and valuable thing 00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:41.040 going on right now is actually the Tesla riots. 00:37:41.040 --> 00:37:43.080 And what I mean by that is, 00:37:43.080 --> 00:37:47.520 if you are a liberal and you are defacing a Tesla 00:37:47.520 --> 00:37:49.360 and you get arrested for that, 00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:52.280 you are going to immediately be pissed off 00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:54.879 at the federal government. 00:37:54.879 --> 00:37:57.639 If you're a liberal and you own a Tesla 00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:01.000 and your Tesla is now vandalized by another liberal, 00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:02.800 because there's no MAGA people doing that, 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:07.159 you are immediately going to have a shock to your system. 00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:08.000 Right? 00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:10.959 Like, that is actually like the Tesla thing 00:38:10.959 --> 00:38:15.959 is actually the best marketing for a Trump 2028 run 00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:19.120 in a really interesting way. 00:38:19.120 --> 00:38:23.320 And it's also though, I think the first chink in the matrix. 00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:24.719 And it's this really interesting thing 00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:25.560 where it's kind of like, 00:38:25.560 --> 00:38:26.639 it's that the Spider-Man meme 00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:28.159 where they're pointing at each other. 00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:30.120 It's literally that meme of like, 00:38:30.120 --> 00:38:31.719 oh, you're the bad guy, 00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:34.239 but it's literally woke-ism pointing at woke-ism 00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:38.040 because originally woke-ism was correct in buying Teslas 00:38:38.040 --> 00:38:39.879 because it was the green thing to do. 00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:44.000 And now you hate Tesla because it's the other thing to do. 00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:46.919 And so it's this, you know, it's the, 00:38:46.919 --> 00:38:51.800 I can't remember the name of the Asian dragon 00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:53.679 that's eating its own tail, but it's literally that. 00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:54.679 Ouroboros. 00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:57.600 Yeah, it's the Ouroboros of woke-ism. 00:38:57.600 --> 00:38:59.639 Like it's literally the Ouroboros of woke-ism right now. 00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:02.320 And that gives me hope that we're going to get to a moment 00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:06.959 where, you know, I'm not going to say 00:39:06.959 --> 00:39:08.959 more people are going to wake up, 00:39:08.959 --> 00:39:13.000 but what I'm going to say is I think the general sentiment 00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:18.000 is going to shift to a desire for something to cling onto. 00:39:18.719 --> 00:39:19.919 And that's going to be truth. 00:39:19.919 --> 00:39:21.080 And then ultimately I think that 00:39:21.080 --> 00:39:23.399 that truth is Bitcoin, personally. 00:39:23.399 --> 00:39:27.159 Can you imagine how exhausting 00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:30.360 and how expensive it is to be a leftist right now? 00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:34.639 Like, first of all, okay, so Elon launches Tesla 00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:36.199 and you're, you know, you're a leftist 00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:38.600 and you're like, fuck yeah, green car. 00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:40.080 Finally. 00:39:40.080 --> 00:39:44.399 So you go buy the Roadster, you get the $120,000 Model S. 00:39:44.399 --> 00:39:47.800 And then a few years later, Elon's evil. 00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:49.560 Fuck, I got to burn my Tesla. 00:39:49.560 --> 00:39:51.199 So now you're out 120 grand 00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:52.959 and you lit your fucking car on fire. 00:39:52.959 --> 00:39:57.959 Like this is, to have no principles or no framework at all 00:39:58.560 --> 00:40:01.719 is very expensive and very exhausting. 00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:04.840 The silver lining in all of this though is you hate Maha. 00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:07.199 And so McDonald's is back on the menu. 00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:11.120 You are now at a place where eating garbage fast food 00:40:11.120 --> 00:40:12.600 is the best alternative. 00:40:12.600 --> 00:40:16.959 The problem is Taco Bell for a family of four is $85. 00:40:16.959 --> 00:40:20.360 Well, I mean, look, they were cutting their dicks off. 00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.000 They're dying their hairs blue. 00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:27.000 Like, whether McDonald's takes them out of the gene pool 00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:33.040 or their own dick cutting, you know, they're out. 00:40:33.040 --> 00:40:35.080 In 25 years, there's less of them. 00:40:36.080 --> 00:40:38.879 It is wild that it is like, 00:40:38.879 --> 00:40:39.760 I didn't even think about that, 00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:43.080 but like woke-ism is the Ouroboros of itself. 00:40:43.080 --> 00:40:44.520 And the only way that it survives 00:40:44.520 --> 00:40:46.040 is if it mind viruses other people. 00:40:46.040 --> 00:40:48.080 And the only way that that can do that is education. 00:40:48.080 --> 00:40:48.919 And so that's why you want to close 00:40:48.919 --> 00:40:49.800 the Department of Education. 00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:51.280 Correct, check. 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.080 In the USA thing, like one of the things 00:40:54.080 --> 00:40:56.040 I saw one interview, somebody was like, 00:40:56.040 --> 00:40:58.120 went to a Tesla protest line, right? 00:40:58.120 --> 00:40:59.399 Interviewed all the people. 00:40:59.399 --> 00:41:01.159 Every single one of them was a boomer 00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:02.760 and they were all so mad. 00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:04.719 And they were like explaining why they're mad. 00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:08.800 And they're like, well, because Elon Musk shut down. 00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:12.919 Like, look, she lost a $35 million grant for whatever. 00:41:12.919 --> 00:41:14.760 It's like the person standing next to them in the interview. 00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:17.360 And you're like, oh, well, that's why they're mad. 00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:18.760 They don't care about Tesla. 00:41:20.120 --> 00:41:24.399 They're mad because like they can no longer suck at the tea. 00:41:24.399 --> 00:41:25.919 Like, that's why they're mad. 00:41:25.919 --> 00:41:28.840 I really want to, I want to know, 00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:33.560 I'm curious how significant the hit 00:41:33.560 --> 00:41:36.159 to the organized crime that we've seen 00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:38.639 over the last five years is going to be 00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:40.760 with the shutting down of USAID. 00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:43.600 For instance, I don't know if y'all remember, 00:41:43.600 --> 00:41:45.919 but you know, Pepperidge Farm remembers 00:41:45.919 --> 00:41:49.320 when these fucking protests, riots, 00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:52.280 fucking riots were going on, 00:41:53.600 --> 00:41:57.600 there were entire pallets of bricks being delivered 00:41:57.600 --> 00:42:00.120 to the places that were supposed to be, 00:42:00.120 --> 00:42:02.000 you know, where the riots were going to be. 00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:05.239 So this whole thing was highly fucking organized. 00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:08.760 Obviously, to get a bunch of mentally ill human beings 00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:11.919 to blow shit up, you basically need a bunch of organization 00:42:11.919 --> 00:42:12.800 and you have to pay them. 00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:14.760 And that's what we saw over the last five years. 00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:17.520 So I'm curious, you know, these Tesla protesters, 00:42:17.520 --> 00:42:19.360 obviously, I'm sure some of them are paid, 00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:21.919 it's fairly organized, saw the violent ones. 00:42:21.919 --> 00:42:25.040 So like, how much, the question is, 00:42:25.040 --> 00:42:29.000 how much did we kneecap this behavior with removing USAID? 00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:30.639 Like, are we going to see pallets of bricks 00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:33.080 being dropped off during the next riots? 00:42:33.080 --> 00:42:37.239 Or did we actually blow a significant deal, 00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:40.320 a significant blow to, you know, the organized chaos 00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:43.000 that's been propagated on us for the last five years? 00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:46.439 I feel the answer to that lies in who collects the data. 00:42:46.439 --> 00:42:49.600 I think if we don't have independent arbiters of truth 00:42:49.600 --> 00:42:50.879 that are not in the government, 00:42:50.879 --> 00:42:53.679 near the FBI and whatever it is, 00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:55.840 we will never know the answer to that question. 00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:56.679 And I think that- 00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:57.520 Well, we will, I mean, 00:42:57.520 --> 00:42:58.959 if we see a bunch of fucking riots pop out 00:42:58.959 --> 00:43:00.560 and they're laying pallets of bricks again, 00:43:00.560 --> 00:43:02.280 like the money came from somewhere. 00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:03.120 That's true, but- 00:43:03.120 --> 00:43:05.479 This is like, look it up on Twitter, 00:43:05.479 --> 00:43:07.879 just like right now or after the call. 00:43:07.879 --> 00:43:11.560 Like, there's literally unbelievable evidence 00:43:11.560 --> 00:43:14.919 that USAID, like explicitly, 00:43:14.919 --> 00:43:19.320 was funding narcotic and cartel organizations. 00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:22.840 Like, it's just tons of it out, just all over the place. 00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.840 Oh yeah, here's, and you like the picture of USAID 00:43:26.120 --> 00:43:30.919 on a random building in the middle of Mexico 00:43:30.919 --> 00:43:34.560 where there's nothing going on except for narcotics. 00:43:34.560 --> 00:43:35.399 The whole thing. 00:43:35.399 --> 00:43:36.800 It's just, it's like literally, 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.479 like Zach, totally valid question. 00:43:39.479 --> 00:43:42.959 How much of it is now done because of that? 00:43:42.959 --> 00:43:45.560 How much of it was literally just being entirely funded 00:43:45.560 --> 00:43:46.919 because of that? 00:43:46.919 --> 00:43:47.760 Yeah. 00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:51.040 How much of the US government was funding 00:43:51.040 --> 00:43:53.399 the other side of the quote unquote war on drugs 00:43:53.439 --> 00:43:56.199 to work? 00:43:56.199 --> 00:43:57.959 It's like mind boggling. 00:43:57.959 --> 00:43:58.800 100%. 00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:00.679 And the people who think that like, 00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:03.040 getting a caravan of human beings 00:44:03.040 --> 00:44:05.520 across multiple continents to walk across a border, 00:44:05.520 --> 00:44:07.439 like that was some natural fucking phenomenon. 00:44:07.439 --> 00:44:09.560 Like, have you ever tried to play telephone? 00:44:09.560 --> 00:44:10.959 Like, you can't get three adults 00:44:10.959 --> 00:44:12.239 to say the same fucking words 00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:14.560 after they whispered it into each other's ears, 00:44:14.560 --> 00:44:16.760 much less organize millions of people 00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:19.320 walking across a fucking continent. 00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:20.159 You have a brain. 00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:21.439 No, no, no. 00:44:21.439 --> 00:44:22.760 Across an ocean, 00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:25.439 because so many of them came from Africa and China. 00:44:25.439 --> 00:44:26.760 Yeah, they never were Moroccan. 00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:27.600 No. 00:44:27.600 --> 00:44:28.439 Yeah, they definitely walked. 00:44:28.439 --> 00:44:30.600 South African immigrants was wild. 00:44:30.600 --> 00:44:31.959 They just all got together and were like, 00:44:31.959 --> 00:44:32.879 fuck it, let's do it. 00:44:32.879 --> 00:44:34.840 Let's invade the United States. 00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:36.040 No funding at all. 00:44:37.879 --> 00:44:39.479 Anyway. 00:44:39.479 --> 00:44:41.719 It's wild too when you go down the rabbit holes, 00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:46.719 but you know, of the, you know, the world wars, right? 00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:48.479 It's like all the things that are coming out now 00:44:48.479 --> 00:44:51.040 about Hitler living out his days in Argentina 00:44:51.879 --> 00:44:53.800 and the bankers funding both sides of that war, 00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:55.719 which I absolutely agree with. 00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:00.080 Because there's a lot of NIMBY, you know, 00:45:00.080 --> 00:45:02.760 and I've been to a couple of different places 00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:03.760 where there've been genocides. 00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:07.479 And I went to Cambodia and I went to, you know, 00:45:07.479 --> 00:45:09.360 Vietnam and a couple of these different places 00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:10.520 where they have, you know, 00:45:10.520 --> 00:45:13.719 Cambodia specifically had the killing fields. 00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:16.719 And I went to Rwanda as well. 00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:21.760 And it's really fascinating when you look at those, 00:45:24.439 --> 00:45:29.439 like microcosms of, what's the word I'm looking for? 00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:34.639 I think the word is just like of terror on both sides. 00:45:35.919 --> 00:45:38.639 It's like you get people whipped up into a fervor, 00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:40.479 which is the Tesla thing right now, 00:45:40.479 --> 00:45:41.959 where they feel like they have to act 00:45:41.959 --> 00:45:43.800 and they have to do this thing, they have to dehumanize. 00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:44.879 And that was World War II. 00:45:44.879 --> 00:45:46.320 It's like the people on the other side, you know, 00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:48.159 my favorite story, 00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:49.679 and I think somebody was making a movie about this 00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:51.239 and I was actually looking at doing one too. 00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:52.879 It'd be a great AI one. 00:45:52.879 --> 00:45:56.040 Is you guys familiar with the World War I 00:45:56.040 --> 00:45:57.800 Christmas Day soccer game? 00:45:57.800 --> 00:45:58.639 Yeah. 00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:00.360 So if you're not familiar with that, 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:03.399 in World War I, there was a soccer game, 00:46:03.399 --> 00:46:04.840 was a Christmas Day ceasefire, 00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:06.639 where essentially the British and the Americans 00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:11.000 and the Germans stopped, you know, 00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:12.479 they started singing Crystal Knot, 00:46:12.479 --> 00:46:14.399 which is, you know, a silent night. 00:46:14.399 --> 00:46:16.080 And then after they did that, they all came out 00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:18.239 and they all played a soccer game. 00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:20.000 There was a soccer game in the middle of these 00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:21.760 killing fields in France. 00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:24.560 And thank you every time I'm making a point, camera. 00:46:24.560 --> 00:46:26.159 This is lovely. 00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:28.159 And there was a soccer game in the middle 00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:30.800 of these killing fields in France on Christmas Day. 00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:34.800 And they basically celebrated. 00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:36.080 They shared cigarettes. 00:46:36.080 --> 00:46:38.760 They, you know, did whatever storytelling they could 00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:41.040 because there's a language barrier. 00:46:41.040 --> 00:46:43.280 And then they went back to their trenches the next morning 00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:45.360 and they started killing each other again. 00:46:45.919 --> 00:46:47.399 Launched one of the greatest, 00:46:47.399 --> 00:46:49.080 probably the greatest commercial I think 00:46:49.080 --> 00:46:53.000 that has ever produced was an Adidas commercial 00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:54.080 about exactly this day. 00:46:54.080 --> 00:46:55.840 So if you'd like a visual, just Google it. 00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:56.679 It's on YouTube. 00:46:56.679 --> 00:46:59.159 I think it was Long Live Sport World War I. 00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:03.199 But yes, supporting details for your point, JD. 00:47:03.199 --> 00:47:04.040 Yeah. 00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:08.600 Let's look. 00:47:08.600 --> 00:47:10.320 Oh yeah, Adidas Long Live Sport. 00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:13.840 That's how much that commercial had an impact on me. 00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:16.600 I literally know the name of it. 00:47:16.600 --> 00:47:18.560 It's been hanging out in my brain for years. 00:47:18.560 --> 00:47:20.080 It's fucking good. 00:47:20.080 --> 00:47:22.280 So let's, just because we're here 00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:24.399 and you know, we're almost at time too, 00:47:24.399 --> 00:47:28.679 but let's just for sake of funsies, 00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:29.879 we'll watch it together. 00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:33.199 This episode brought to you by Adidas. 00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:34.040 Yeah, I know. 00:47:34.040 --> 00:47:35.600 And then don't get us canceled. 00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:45.679 Incoming! 00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:55.479 It's the guy from Remember the Titans. 00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:00.000 Stay down. 00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:06.360 Wait, no, get back! 00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:08.040 Get down! 00:48:44.040 --> 00:48:46.879 As epic and great as that is. 00:48:46.879 --> 00:48:47.879 Hold on, hold on. 00:48:47.879 --> 00:48:50.120 I'm buying some sneakers real quick. 00:48:50.120 --> 00:48:51.360 I'm buying some cleats. 00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:52.199 Yeah. 00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:55.639 It's wild to me, though, the, 00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:56.679 I mean, this kind of goes to what we're talking about. 00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:58.000 They're like wokeism and leftism, 00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:00.840 like taking some of these things, 00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:02.040 like that is a beautiful moment, right? 00:49:02.040 --> 00:49:03.520 I'm not, I'm not discounting that. 00:49:03.520 --> 00:49:07.719 But it's like just stripping all of the, like, 00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:09.840 raw gore from my body. 00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:11.080 I mean, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, 00:49:11.080 --> 00:49:12.399 I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, 00:49:12.399 --> 00:49:14.959 raw gore from something and then just been like, 00:49:14.959 --> 00:49:16.280 oh, this was like such a happy moment. 00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:18.760 It's like, you realize what was going on there. 00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:20.320 It's also one of my favorite things about the Bible. 00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:22.120 If anybody's ever actually like read the Bible, 00:49:22.120 --> 00:49:24.040 you're like, this is literally 00:49:24.040 --> 00:49:27.600 the most vicious, violent book in existence. 00:49:28.479 --> 00:49:29.320 But it's great. 00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:31.479 It's got a lot of morals and fiber in there. 00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:34.080 But anyways. 00:49:36.399 --> 00:49:39.560 Yeah, thank you guys for jumping in and jumping on. 00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:44.120 Any closing thoughts or ideas? 00:49:48.479 --> 00:49:49.320 I don't know. 00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:53.760 Curious to see what happens with the tariff stuff. 00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:55.639 I was thinking most of yesterday, you know, 00:49:55.639 --> 00:50:00.000 we focused so much on the negative potentialities of this, 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.040 but I was like, there's gotta be a bunch of fucking people 00:50:03.040 --> 00:50:06.320 in this country who are looking at this going, hell yeah, 00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:09.040 now I can go manufacture or produce this thing 00:50:09.080 --> 00:50:13.280 at a competitive rate and I'm gonna get to it like now, 00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:18.879 which I'm all for, you know, like, duh. 00:50:18.879 --> 00:50:22.199 So I don't know, we'll see what happens. 00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:28.120 Yeah, I think that in closing thoughts, 00:50:29.120 --> 00:50:31.600 when and if you are interested in the truth 00:50:31.600 --> 00:50:35.399 and you go down the Bitcoin rabbit hole of truth, 00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:39.639 you start to realize, at least for me, 00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:42.040 from what I've realized, 00:50:42.040 --> 00:50:45.080 is that money really does affect outcomes 00:50:45.080 --> 00:50:47.080 in really profound ways. 00:50:48.439 --> 00:50:53.080 And failing to understand that is failing to understand 00:50:53.080 --> 00:50:58.080 the logic behind all of our political and economic reality 00:50:58.959 --> 00:51:01.639 and what happens next and seeing down those paths. 00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:06.199 Where we go from here is like, you can figure it out. 00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:07.479 It's not gonna be easy. 00:51:07.479 --> 00:51:10.439 I don't have the answers, but the logic is gonna be sound. 00:51:10.439 --> 00:51:11.479 You can figure it out. 00:51:16.080 --> 00:51:16.919 Good stuff. 00:51:16.919 --> 00:51:17.919 I feel like I've tossed the most, 00:51:17.919 --> 00:51:22.320 so if I have any closing thoughts, it's buy Bitcoin. 00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:23.159 Buy Bitcoin. 00:51:24.080 --> 00:51:26.080 It's only getting better, you guys. 00:51:26.080 --> 00:51:26.919 It's gonna get worse. 00:51:26.919 --> 00:51:27.760 It's getting better, though. 00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:28.600 It's gonna get worse. 00:51:28.600 --> 00:51:29.439 $50,000. 00:51:29.439 --> 00:51:30.280 $50,000. 00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:31.120 $50,000. 00:51:31.560 --> 00:51:32.760 $58K incoming. 00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:33.600 Get ready. 00:51:33.600 --> 00:51:34.439 Oh, God. 00:51:34.439 --> 00:51:35.280 Oh, God. 00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:36.120 Oh, God. 00:51:36.120 --> 00:51:37.439 Hopefully, you got some dry powder ready. 00:51:37.439 --> 00:51:38.280 No. 00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:39.639 Who the fuck has money? 00:51:40.879 --> 00:51:42.840 What are you talking about? 00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:44.280 The only guy who has money is Warren Buffet 00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:45.679 and hopefully, he just buys Bitcoin. 00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:47.239 So, we'll see. 00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:48.679 Stranger things have happened, man. 00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:51.000 If you have money, drop a line in the chat 00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:54.120 and let us know how you got that. 00:51:54.120 --> 00:51:56.719 I'd like to figure out how to replicate that strategy. 00:51:59.879 --> 00:52:00.800 Tell me what I need to do 00:52:01.479 --> 00:52:03.239 to get some of that money of yours. 00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:06.879 All right, homies. 00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:09.600 Good to see you. 00:52:09.600 --> 00:52:10.800 All right. 00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:11.639 Cheers. 00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:14.639 Got a good thing coming. 00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:16.959 And it's all I need. 00:52:16.959 --> 00:52:18.639 Everything I wanted. 00:52:22.600 --> 00:52:23.439 Bam.