You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist

When your child says they are trans, where can you go for guidance, support, or advocacy? How do families navigate current trends in the counseling and medical fields and get children the help they need without submitting to a path of lifelong medicalization? On today’s episode, I am joined by two moms who have undertaken a challenging journey through gender ideology in order to help parents by providing resources to families affected by gender affirming care policies around the world. 


Gigi Larue is proud to serve as the West Coast Intake Coordinator for Our Duty Group. This non-profit aims to provide support to parents of trans identifying youth. In December of 2020, Our Duty Group staged the first gender clinic protest at CHLA in Los Angeles. This organization evolved from 5 people standing in the rain to over a hundred in Anaheim at the AAP by October 2022. Our Duty Group’s message is getting out there and the world is waking up to this emergent medical scandal. Josie is a co-founder of the organization Parents with Inconvenient Truths about Trans (PITT).


For related work and resources, please visit: Parents of ROGD Kids


New Book, “Parents with Inconvenient Truths about Trans: Tales from the Home-Front in the Fight to Save Our Kids” available 08/14/2023! Be on the lookout for it in my bookshop with the proceeds being donated to Genspect


Josie mentioned Abigail Shrier’s book, “Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters,” which is available in the “Gender, Sexuality, and Hormones” section of my bookshop!


A colleague was mentioned in this episode, Stella O’Malley. Be sure to check out her podcast - Gender: A Wider Lens!

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What is You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist?

A podcast at the intersection of psychology and culture that intimately explores the human experience and critiques the counseling profession. Your host, Stephanie Winn, distills wisdom gained from her practice as a family therapist and coach while pivoting towards questions of how to apply a practical understanding of psychology to the novel dilemmas of the 21st century, from political polarization to medical malpractice.

What does ethical mental health care look like in a normless age, as our moral compasses spin in search of true north? How can therapists treat patients under pressure to affirm everything from the notion of "gender identity" to assisted suicide?

Primarily a long-form interview podcast, Stephanie invites unorthodox, free-thinking guests from many walks of life, including counselors, social workers, medical professionals, writers, researchers, and people with unique lived experience, such as detransitioners.

Curious about many things, Stephanie’s interdisciplinary psychological lens investigates challenging social issues and inspires transformation in the self, relationships, and society. She is known for bringing calm warmth to painful subjects, and astute perceptiveness to ethically complex issues. Pick up a torch to illuminate the dark night and join us on this journey through the inner wilderness.

You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist ranks in the top 1% globally according to ListenNotes. New episodes are released every Monday. Three and a half years after the show's inception in May of 2022, Stephanie became a Christian, representing the crystallization of moral, spiritual, and existential views she had been openly grappling with along with her audience and guests. Newer episodes (#188 forward) may sometimes reflect a Christian understanding, interwoven with and applied to the same issues the podcast has always addressed. The podcast remains diverse and continues to feature guests from all viewpoints.