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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun and

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey everybody, good morning and welcome to The

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<v Speaker 1>Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good to be here again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how you feeling about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is good. This is day three.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, day three. Yeah, this is good. And we're in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of a series called Dangerous Prayers, and then

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<v Speaker 1>all these prayers this week have the theme of God

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<v Speaker 1>calling us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been a good week thus far.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. I agree. So Wesley's here with me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Platinum Edition, and Jeff's out of town

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<v Speaker 1>in Africa. Yeah, he's in Africa. Isn't that funny? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>picking random countries. Egypt, Africa, Mexico, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he may have gone to Egypt. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>He does a lot of traveling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was in Egypt not too long ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me. So today we're starting with a segment. I

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<v Speaker 1>like these. It's called Would You Rather?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I like them, especially with guests.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Not guests, but like other than Jeff, right? So I

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<v Speaker 1>guess fill-ins or whatever. So the reason why is because

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<v Speaker 1>Would You Rather is a game that focuses on the individual, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So it helps us to get to know you and

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<v Speaker 1>me better. Yeah. Especially together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So here we go. Number one. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>for you, Chris. Would you rather only speak in VeggieTales

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<v Speaker 2>quotes or only communicate through interpretive dance?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So VeggieTales voice or interpretive dance?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, VeggieTales only has a very limited amount

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<v Speaker 1>of tapes, first of all. I say tapes because that's

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<v Speaker 1>when they came out, during tapes, VCRs.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's the classic, the bunny, the bunny.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. That's right. That's the bunny. But they don't

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<v Speaker 1>really have a lot of famous quotes. Yeah. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, so it's limited communication, not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of famous quotes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But interpretive dance is the worst thing ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you agree? Yeah. Interpretive dance is so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking you're going to say interpretive dance has some,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like good qualities or something. You're like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, come on. I mean, dancing styles, if

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<v Speaker 1>you were to tell me you're going to choose a

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<v Speaker 1>dancing style that I don't necessarily like, like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really care for ballet. Yeah. If you're going to tell

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<v Speaker 1>me go to ballet, I'd be like, okay, I signed

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<v Speaker 1>up for ballet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy ballet if I know I'm going to ballet. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think probably one of the worst forms of dance...

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<v Speaker 1>is a free-for-all based on emotion, right? And there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of wavy, a lot of wavy type stuff. That

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<v Speaker 1>is hilarious. Don't you agree?

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<v Speaker 2>The wavy. Yeah. It's just like they try to be like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>how can I make a movement?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, based on that sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Or this song.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to exaggerate it. Yes. And, you know, add

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<v Speaker 2>more emphasis with your body movement.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So you are not a fan.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a fan, but I would rather, I would

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<v Speaker 1>rather choose VeggieTales quotes. Okay. On Star Trek, there was

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<v Speaker 1>an episode on The Next Generation where Captain Picard ran

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<v Speaker 1>these phrases represented from their history represented like sentiments.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And somehow by the end of the episode, he was

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, and it was actually a pretty impressive journey.

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<v Speaker 1>It was actually like, it was very intelligent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was intelligently written. So I would rather do that

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<v Speaker 1>with VeggieTales than do my life interpretive dancing.

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<v Speaker 2>So we will not see you preach and do interpretive

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<v Speaker 2>dance at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>That will never happen?

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<v Speaker 1>No. Okay. Although I don't mind sometimes. interpretive dance during

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<v Speaker 1>a song that is, um, uh, uh, uh, very loud. Yeah. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>like a very, like a, uh, like a screaming song.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a raging type song that has a lot of, uh.

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<v Speaker 2>A raw emotion. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's a good song.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think interpretive dance works best in that environment.

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<v Speaker 1>We spent way too long on.

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<v Speaker 2>This, on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two, number two, would you rather host a talent

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<v Speaker 1>show with zero talent or a lip sync battle? where

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<v Speaker 1>everyone takes it way too seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, talent show with no talent.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm lip sync show.

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<v Speaker 2>I would do the lip sync thing, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's a lip sync battle that's on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Where all the celebrities do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And they take it way too seriously. And those are amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was going to say the other one would

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<v Speaker 2>get kind of like, I think, boring after a while. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>If like the no talent one.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say painful. Yeah. Right? I mean, no talent

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, number three. Would you rather be mentored by Moana

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<v Speaker 2>or go on a road trip with Olaf?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, there's no question. I don't like Moana and I

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<v Speaker 1>love Olaf.

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<v Speaker 2>That is funny. But you don't think Olaf is too silly?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I would be delighted through my entire road trip.

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<v Speaker 2>That is hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think my daughter, Tori, it would be her

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<v Speaker 1>dream to go on a road trip with Olaf.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. What's his name? The guy who does the voice?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who does the actual voice. Yeah, he's great.

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<v Speaker 1>He also did LeFou in the live-action version of Beauty

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<v Speaker 1>and the Beast.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>His name's Jay. There's a Jay in there somewhere. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody listening who knows who he is knows his name.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny. Number four, would you rather lead a revival

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<v Speaker 1>in a bouncy castle, oh my word, or preach a

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<v Speaker 1>sermon entirely in pirate voice?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, man. How do you even..

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<v Speaker 1>That is such a random-o question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like a revival in a bouncy house.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Josh something. His name's Josh something.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, man. I'm trying to... I don't even know what

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<v Speaker 2>the answer to this one would be.

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<v Speaker 1>No, me neither.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess leading a revival, I guess, would be the

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<v Speaker 2>better thing. But in a bouncy house, it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>get interesting quick. So I'm going to have to go

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<v Speaker 2>with leading a revival because I want to see lives change, but...

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to happen in a bouncy house. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>that's how it's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I would try to take the bouncy house and

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<v Speaker 1>use it in a sermon illustration.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like somehow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But then communicate clearly. Yeah. As opposed to pirate voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Turn to Matthew.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>God loves you, eh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, come on. God loves you, matey. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not good. Okay, I had to look it up,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know. Josh Gad.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's who it is?

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Gad. I knew it was a J. Josh Gad

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<v Speaker 1>is his name. All right, and then..

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is me. Would you rather swap lives

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<v Speaker 2>with a background character in The Chosen or a main

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<v Speaker 2>character in High School Musical?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she wrote that for me, I think. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>swap lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you had to swap lives with one, either in

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<v Speaker 2>The Chosen. Okay. I guess, so this is... In The Chosen,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you kind of have to narrow that down. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>who am I swapping lives with in The Chosen?

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<v Speaker 1>It says background character, so I'm assuming..

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so if it's a background..

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<v Speaker 1>Probably meaning like part of the crowd who gets to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to Jesus in person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so now that would be cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, I don't want to be Judas.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? But she said background.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she did say background.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So in other words, what you're doing is you're saying...

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<v Speaker 1>The privilege of being a person who heard Jesus live

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<v Speaker 1>and repented and followed him and was a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the early church in Acts chapter 2, even though it

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<v Speaker 1>was persecuted, or to actually be Troy Bolton.

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<v Speaker 2>But I kind of feel like, and we're getting way

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<v Speaker 2>too deep with this, but I kind of feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you'd get tired of the high school musical thing after

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<v Speaker 2>a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, come on, Wildcat. Yeah. You're so crazy. You are

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<v Speaker 1>so crazy, Wildcat. You know what? I honestly think that

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<v Speaker 1>there's no question here. There's no temptation to say high

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<v Speaker 1>school musical in any way, shape, or form.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right? How could you pass up? being a person who

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<v Speaker 1>had the privilege of seeing God's only son. Yeah. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then put that on your resume. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, granted you're not, uh, you're living in the first

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<v Speaker 1>century where, uh, you know, uh, food and water and all, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, indoor plumbing. I mean, all that stuff is

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<v Speaker 1>just the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That existence even is the worst. Yep. You know, being

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<v Speaker 1>under Roman occupation or, you know, to be occupied, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in oppression is what I'm trying to say. And, um, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. Oh, it's just terrible. But, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that over Troy Bolton, how could you say, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to sing and go to the University of Utah? Come on.

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<v Speaker 2>Or listen to Jesus live.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep. And by the way, I know way too

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<v Speaker 1>much about high school musicals, you can see.

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<v Speaker 1>So on top of that, both of my daughters and

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway. Yeah, I'm secure in my manner to say that.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what? James encourages us to make hard

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<v Speaker 2>Segue. So this is James chapter one, verses one through eight.

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<v Speaker 2>just going to read the whole thing. So James chapter one,

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<v Speaker 2>starting at verse one says, and I love this. This

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<v Speaker 1>Right off the bat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. A slave of God and of our Lord Jesus Christ,

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<v Speaker 2>Dear brothers and sisters, when troubles of any kind come

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<v Speaker 2>has a chance to grow. So let it grow. For

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<v Speaker 2>when your endurance is fully developed, you will be perfect

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<v Speaker 2>and complete, needing nothing. And if you need wisdom, ask

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<v Speaker 2>our generous God and he will give it to you.

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<v Speaker 2>He will not rebuke you for asking. But when you

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<v Speaker 2>Do not waver. For a person with divided loyalty is

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<v Speaker 2>divided between God and the world, and they are unstable

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<v Speaker 2>in everything they do. That's James.

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<v Speaker 1>There it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Chapter one.

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<v Speaker 1>So, wow. So the prayer itself that we're focusing on

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>But the context is just in general, the persecution, perseverance connection, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever you find yourself in trouble in that way, consider

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<v Speaker 1>it an opportunity for great joy, James says. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why is because it's going to do certain things

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<v Speaker 1>in your life that will develop your character. And then

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<v Speaker 1>to ask for wisdom in that context, right? So that

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<v Speaker 1>could be a dangerous prayer in some ways. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the funny thing about that, Chris. It says like

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<v Speaker 2>is tested, your endurance has a chance to grow. I

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<v Speaker 2>can only speak for myself, but I like the endurance

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<v Speaker 2>having a chance to grow. I don't like faith is tested.

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<v Speaker 2>So oftentimes we want the benefits But we don't want

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<v Speaker 2>the things that you have to go through to get

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all we got to do is look at our

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<v Speaker 1>diets and our bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you're going to the gym later. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>you want to live long. You want to be healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you necessarily want to do 50 push-ups? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily want to do 100 jumping jacks? No, but we

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<v Speaker 2>oftentimes want the end result healthy. but the process to

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, that's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times when, when our listeners tune in, they always

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<v Speaker 1>see Jeff and button down shirts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Today you're in a button down shirt. Yeah. I'm wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a t-shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I literally will go directly from here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Right over there.

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<v Speaker 1>Directly to a heritage fitness project and work out. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>literally like five minutes later.

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<v Speaker 1>So, so that's oftentimes why I wear t-shirts. But depending

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<v Speaker 1>on when we film, but, But the bottom line is, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a perfect analogy, isn't it? Because we want the

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<v Speaker 1>benefits without the price.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, without the sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, without the sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you think about it, anything in this life

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<v Speaker 1>that's worth doing will cost you something.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything. And that doesn't matter whether it's practical, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>related to your job, whether it's relational in your marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>matter what field it's in. Anything that's really worth doing

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<v Speaker 1>that's really what James is saying. He's saying faith is

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he's saying. He's saying, listen, count it joy

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<v Speaker 1>whenever you struggle, because just know this, there's an upside

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<v Speaker 1>to build endurance and faith. And he actually says perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>And what he's meaning is he's not meaning perfect without flaw.

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<v Speaker 1>He's meaning... Perfection, you know, heading toward perfection, right? To

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<v Speaker 1>be perfected is to be constantly be working on, right?

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<v Speaker 1>So the Bible says that God continues to mold us

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<v Speaker 1>and continues to shape us into the perfect image of

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ. We will never arrive at perfection, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>being perfected as we're going along, right? And so, as

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<v Speaker 1>it is working toward perfection. Now, ultimately that promise is

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<v Speaker 1>We will have perfect bodies. We will be without sin

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<v Speaker 1>No more pain. We'll be with our heavenly father. There

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<v Speaker 1>will be a perfect existence. a Garden of Eden part two, right?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's going to happen. The new Jerusalem, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>heaven laid out for all of us. But in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>while on earth, life is hard, right? Life is hard.

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<v Speaker 1>this world, right? And so the results of sin play

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<v Speaker 1>out and life is just difficult. And so therefore we

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<v Speaker 1>need to lean on, depend on, look to Jesus and

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<v Speaker 1>God's Holy Spirit's power. But all the while, even though

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<v Speaker 1>But on the inside, we're being perfected, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>That'll reverberate into eternity.

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<v Speaker 2>And Chris, I like how God gave us an out.

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<v Speaker 2>You talked about how life is difficult. Yeah. In verse five,

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<v Speaker 2>to make a big decision, if you need wisdom, ask

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<v Speaker 2>our generous God, he's not a stingy God, ask our

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great adjective.

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<v Speaker 2>And he will give it to you. So that lets

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<v Speaker 2>me know whenever I'm at a point in my life

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<v Speaker 2>where I need wisdom, I can ask our generous God

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<v Speaker 2>and he will give me the direction, give me the guidance,

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<v Speaker 2>There is never a time that you ask God for

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<v Speaker 2>wisdom and he doesn't give it. Now, Sometimes we have

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<v Speaker 2>can I have your phone? Oh, what took so long?

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<v Speaker 2>That's literally how we are with God. We literally ask

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<v Speaker 2>a generous God. If you're at a crossroads where you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what to do, maybe someone watching right now, Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>of what to do in that specific situation.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's so funny is, actually, by the time

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast airs next week, that actually, this will be what,

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth day? This will be Thursday. No, Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So this episode's Wednesday. We will only be a couple

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<v Speaker 1>a series that we're starting called Old School. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>These are things that Christians do. The series is focused

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<v Speaker 1>on Christian behaviors and spiritual discipline. So finding wisdom is

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<v Speaker 1>what Solomon says is a thing that you should do

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<v Speaker 1>above all else to recognize that wisdom is number one, attainable,

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<v Speaker 1>and number two, that if you do this, that you've

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<v Speaker 1>And so, because he could have asked for riches and fame,

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<v Speaker 1>he decided to say, God, I'll tell you what, give

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<v Speaker 1>me wisdom above all else. God said, because you've done that.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>It's brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you get the wisdom, you can manufacture more wealth.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have the wisdom of how to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>So forget the wealth, give me the wisdom. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So consequently, he was the wisest and richest man who

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<v Speaker 1>for me, is that God says that because you've asked

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<v Speaker 1>will be the wisest man who ever has ever lived

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<v Speaker 1>or will ever live.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So no human being, no matter how smart.

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<v Speaker 2>They are, will ever be wiser than Saul.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about all the brilliant people in this whole history.

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<v Speaker 2>we think of, like, having smarts and things like that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But Solomon wins. Yeah. Which is amazing. Yeah. So, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So how do you find wisdom? Well, again... You go to,

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<v Speaker 1>number one, God's word is the source of wisdom, right?

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<v Speaker 1>So you have to line up. If you're looking for advice,

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<v Speaker 1>as you suggested, right, or implied, then go to God's

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<v Speaker 1>word first. You're never going to be given advice from

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<v Speaker 1>God or any wisdom that's going to be contradictory to

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<v Speaker 1>God's word.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two, what am I going to say? Godly counsel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right? You got to get godly counsel. Because these are

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<v Speaker 1>people who know you, hopefully. They're trusted. They're godly. So

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<v Speaker 1>they can speak into your circumstance with intelligence and insight.

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<v Speaker 1>but at the same time, they're also Christians.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm going to be a little blunt here, Chris. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure when you do what Chris is telling you,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't go to people who know no more than you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good point.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe that friend that you normally talk to depending

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<v Speaker 2>on where they are at in their Christian walk, may

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<v Speaker 2>not be the best person to talk about this situation.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that there's a caveat there. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you do definitely wanna make sure it is someone who's

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<v Speaker 2>going to give you godly wisdom, not someone who will say, Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not getting along with that person. Yeah, you should

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<v Speaker 2>punch him in the eye.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want that person giving you.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's right. Yeah, and don't be afraid also to

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<v Speaker 1>get multiple sources of godly wisdom. And here's the reason why.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember in college, I didn't realize my home pastor,

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<v Speaker 1>I say home pastor because I was in college, and

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<v Speaker 1>in my home church, I didn't realize how hard of

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<v Speaker 1>a time he was going through as an individual. In fact, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>since then, he sort of lost his faith. And he

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<v Speaker 1>dropped out of ministry and he actually makes a public statement, well,

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<v Speaker 1>public to his friends that he's no longer a person

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<v Speaker 1>of faith.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And so talk about a radical disappointment, right? But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the time I didn't realize that's where he was.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the time he was my spiritual mentor. And

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<v Speaker 1>I went to him and said, hey, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of advice to ask you. And looking at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>I followed every single advice he gave me. Every single

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<v Speaker 1>piece of advice. I went to him for like three

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<v Speaker 1>major things and he gave me advice and I followed it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not kidding you when I say 30 years later,

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<v Speaker 1>I regret to a large degree all three of his

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<v Speaker 1>pieces of advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, it didn't go against God's word. Yeah. It just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of, you know, it was a combination of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that plus, you know, his knowledge of me and life

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<v Speaker 1>experience and everything else. I thought to myself, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I would have gone to three or four people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because these were big decisions and he gave me wrong

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<v Speaker 1>advice and steered me the wrong way. And I could

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<v Speaker 1>name you my friends, people in my life who say

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<v Speaker 1>they did the same thing. They went to one source.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to that one person.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>And wish they would have sought the godly counsel of

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<v Speaker 1>multiple people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because, you know, Dave Wilson told me this just the

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<v Speaker 1>other day. He said, he goes, I really wish I

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<v Speaker 1>would have listened to somebody else other than my mentor

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<v Speaker 1>on this one decision because 50 years later, I'm regretting it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, or 45 years later, whatever it is. Because

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<v Speaker 1>that's why God gives us others in our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>To surround us and point us in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Guide us, pray for us, encourage us. and then counsel us, right? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And Chris, if I can throw this in, because I

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<v Speaker 2>know we're running out of time, that verse five ends with,

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<v Speaker 2>he will not rebuke you for asking. And I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>We can ask God for wisdom and he's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to get mad. God isn't too busy for your conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>your request, whatever you have to ask him, he will

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<v Speaker 2>not rebuke you. He's, as a matter of fact, Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>he's glad to hear from us.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>He's glad when we seek him for counsel and for

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<v Speaker 2>wisdom and things of that nature. So yeah, that's just

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<v Speaker 2>a good thing to remember.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great. Well, that's a great thought to end with.

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<v Speaker 1>That's our time. And so hopefully we'll see you tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>on The Bible Guys.