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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Chris and this is Jeffrey Man.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm so only my mom calls me Jeffrey and

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<v Speaker 2>only when I'm in trouble. Okay, Jeffrey Michael, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>she's saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I'm Christopher. I'm Christopher, and this is Jeffrey.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, didn't your mom call you Chrissy?

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<v Speaker 1>Still does?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, still does.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know the reason why, Chucky, Donnie, Tommy, Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and so you had to be You're the

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<v Speaker 2>young guest.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I'm the one cursed with it doesn't work

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<v Speaker 3>with my name, right, everybody else it kind of works, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh So yeah, I'm I'm the fifth one that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>really work with my name. And by the way, I

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<v Speaker 3>was supposed to be Jonathan Christopher, but I was born

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<v Speaker 3>on Palm Sunday, just after midnight, and so she wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to name me after actually, you know, she grew up Catholic,

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<v Speaker 3>so Saint Christopher. So she says, oh no, let's make

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<v Speaker 3>it more of a religion name, because she did. She

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<v Speaker 3>there wasn't a saint named Jonathan, right, and so I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, unless you consider.

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<v Speaker 1>Saint John who wrote the Bible part of the part

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>But but but no, so she named me after the saint,

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<v Speaker 3>which is anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why I became Chris Well.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's why you're so saintly. That is, people tend

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<v Speaker 2>to live up to their names.

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<v Speaker 1>Halo.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So hey, we have a segment before we jump

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<v Speaker 3>into our UH series about Jesus and his famous sayings.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is what Desiree wrote. She said, this is

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<v Speaker 3>called a draft list.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're going to draft since.

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<v Speaker 1>We are in this series.

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<v Speaker 3>If Jesus had a podcast, let's do a draft list

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<v Speaker 3>of people you would love to have as.

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<v Speaker 1>A guest on the Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys, you rock paper scissors to see who gets the

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<v Speaker 3>first draft pick list.

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<v Speaker 1>And go until you have five people. Wow, rock paper scissors? Ready? One?

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<v Speaker 2>Two?

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<v Speaker 3>Three? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I did scissors. He did rock. He beats me like

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<v Speaker 2>ninety percent of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I do. I just I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>your mind.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a pro, you're pro.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a pro. You get it. I don't play the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I play the player, so play the man.

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<v Speaker 3>So uh so I'm assuming that what she is meaning

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<v Speaker 3>is if I were Jesus and I had a podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>which means like Biblical characters.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it wouldn't make sense to say, zach Efron.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let's ask it. Well it makes sense for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's ask does this sitting right back there? Does? Did

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<v Speaker 2>you mean Bible characters or just anybody? Anybody?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>He said anybody, so you can have any So there

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<v Speaker 2>you go, zach Efron, Is that your first vote?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm just say I'm using a ludicrous example.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so if people you would love to have as

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<v Speaker 3>a guest, just just plain guest anybody? Well you wi

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<v Speaker 3>is okay, Well, then I would like to have number one.

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<v Speaker 3>My first draft pick is Chris Pratt.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Pratt, who is a very strong game.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a very very outspoken yes and and uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And I love the fact that he is uh. He

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<v Speaker 3>is not afraid to talk about Jesus. And even though

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<v Speaker 3>even though that he you know, may be rejected by

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<v Speaker 3>some people, they may shy away from him casting him,

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't seem to be hurting right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he's an outspoken Christian. I'd love to hear

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<v Speaker 1>his story of faith.

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<v Speaker 2>Would be interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Who else should we have on the Bible Guy's podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me see, I think it would be cool to

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<v Speaker 2>have David N. Wilson. We haven't had both of them

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<v Speaker 2>on our podcast before. Wow, wouldn't that be neat?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So David N. Wilson work on the staff at Heritage Now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and they have a podcast. I actually misquoted it at

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<v Speaker 3>Heritage Church. I said they have a million listeners a month. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>and then Dave heard it and he said, he goes, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>it goes. It's okay that you said that, he goes,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, it's a million listeners a week. And

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<v Speaker 3>I said, and I was like, well that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's are fifteen thousand for the Bible Guys, which is

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<v Speaker 3>our easily fifteen thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>We get like twenty thousand. Yeah, yeah, but still.

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<v Speaker 1>A million a week and ours are twenty thousand a month. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 3>So family Life Live, by the way, Yes, family life live.

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<v Speaker 3>So family life today, what is it? I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>Family life Today isn't it. It's one of those two.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's today. Okay anyway, So okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it'd be great to have them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna go, I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with

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<v Speaker 3>the stars, and I'm gonna say Carrie Underwood.

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<v Speaker 2>Carrie Underwood.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so one of my one of my favorite country

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<v Speaker 3>singers of all time. Respect her voice tremendously, but also

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<v Speaker 3>she is an incredible woman of faith. And one of

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite little videos to watch is when she and

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<v Speaker 3>Vince Gill saying how great thou art and everybody stood

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<v Speaker 3>up at the what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it? No?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, it was actually at like a country

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<v Speaker 1>Uh whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it was the CMAS and she sang

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<v Speaker 3>how great there art, and every stood up and people

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<v Speaker 3>in the audience were crying, which goes to show you

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<v Speaker 3>that even amongst normal people who don't normally live out

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<v Speaker 3>faith or people who grew up with faith, they probably

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<v Speaker 3>have like a hidden faith, or as like a suppressed

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<v Speaker 3>faith or a faith that faith that isn't active deep

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<v Speaker 3>down inside they believe.

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<v Speaker 1>So here she is she sings how great there.

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<v Speaker 3>Art, and she sings it with such conviction that people

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<v Speaker 3>stood up and they're crying in the audience, people that

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<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't expect, because that's what you can do when.

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<v Speaker 1>You are bold with your faith.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, that's pretty cool, that's fantastic. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I would have And this is I have personal reasons

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<v Speaker 2>for this one. David and Jared Nelms would be fun

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<v Speaker 2>to have on here.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So David is the founder of the Timothy Initiative and

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<v Speaker 2>Jared Nelms is the current CEO, and we work together

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<v Speaker 2>helping train disciple makers all around the world one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and sixty thousand or something like that right now. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think that'd be really fun to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>talk to them about father son interactions leading an organization

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<v Speaker 2>and then how do you scale, you know, at the

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<v Speaker 2>rate that they've scaled over the last fifteen years, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years and pretty amazing. Yeah, Okay, I'm always intrigued by

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<v Speaker 2>people like that.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, and then I'm going to go with I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to go with this. Still to this date, my

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<v Speaker 3>and just the ability to capture people is Andy Stanley.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm going to say Andy Stanley, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that he's been you know, he's ruffled some

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<v Speaker 3>feathers with some things.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Well, one of the questions asked, what were

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<v Speaker 2>you thinking? Andy? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah right right. So now that we

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<v Speaker 3>have you in the Baba Guys, our question is what

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<v Speaker 3>were you thinking? Yeah? But I do believe the best

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<v Speaker 3>in Andy. I always do, and even when even when

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<v Speaker 3>people say, well, he definitely is.

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<v Speaker 1>This way or that way.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've known him for a while, I've talked with

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<v Speaker 3>him personally at least three dozen times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I would just say.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I give him way more credit than some

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<v Speaker 3>people do.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that. That's a safe comment.

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<v Speaker 3>I give him a lot more credit, and I believe

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<v Speaker 3>the best way more than a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>I love him as a communicator, regardless of any type

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<v Speaker 3>of controversy, and I would absolutely love to be his

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<v Speaker 3>friend personally and have him on the Bible Guys as

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<v Speaker 3>a guest.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, yep, I'd like to introduce or to interview

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<v Speaker 2>David Green, the founder of Hobby Lobby. Oh wow, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that'd be a neat one. Yeah, number one it's

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<v Speaker 2>fun talking to billionaires that'd be neat. But beyond that,

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<v Speaker 2>here's a guy that founded a company on Christian principles.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of the best places in America to work.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost every year, they give Sundays off to all their employees, right,

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<v Speaker 2>giving up one seventh of their income. Same thing Chick

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<v Speaker 2>fil A did. So let's talk to Dan Kathy too,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess. But right, those guys and where they're willing

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<v Speaker 2>to give up a significant portion of their potential income

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<v Speaker 2>by being closed an entire day, and yet they're thriving

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<v Speaker 2>in their industries beyond everybody else. It turns out when

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<v Speaker 2>you do what God says to do, he gives you favor,

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<v Speaker 2>he gives you his blessing. So I'd love to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to both of those guys about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I described two yeah, yeah, ready, David Green, Dan Cathy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, okay, And he snuck one in there. So because

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<v Speaker 3>you mentioned David Nelms, you're on the board for TATI,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go with Jeff Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff Jones is the founder of the ministry that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>on the board for, which is anti sex trafficking ministry

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<v Speaker 3>in the Dominican Republic called called Transform One, and I

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<v Speaker 3>would love to have him on and just talk about

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<v Speaker 3>his heart and his story and all the good that

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<v Speaker 3>happens there.

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<v Speaker 2>And to be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>That'd be neat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, you you mentioned preachers, so I would say

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<v Speaker 2>maybe one of the ones that had the biggest impact

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<v Speaker 2>on me as a pastor was Rick Warren.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've had the privilege of doing some stuff with

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<v Speaker 2>Rick a few times and went to Rwanda with him

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<v Speaker 2>and different things, So that'd be really cool to have, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>have him on. And he is he he's retired now,

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<v Speaker 2>he's retired from the church, but he's running a ministry

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<v Speaker 2>called uh finishing the Task how do we get the

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<v Speaker 2>Gospel everywhere to everyone in our generation? So it's pretty neat.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really neat.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, here's the last guy that I would uh love

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<v Speaker 1>Sir Patrick Stewart. Yeah really so you know, yeah, yeah Picard, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Star Trek.

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<v Speaker 3>So he is an incredible man of faith, and he

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<v Speaker 3>is dignified and knowledgeable. And I tell you what, every

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<v Speaker 1>Of knowledge and and and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he's extremely clever and witty. Yes, So it just

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<v Speaker 3>But he's so interesting, yes, yes, And I respect him

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<v Speaker 3>and everything that he acts in and and I love

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<v Speaker 1>And so for me, he'll always be Jean Luc Picard

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<v Speaker 1>and he will not be Professor X. But he is both.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he is he is both.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll choose one. I think it'd be really cool

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to Denzel Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>He seems to be on this very public spiritual journey. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>over the last several years. I'd love to just sit

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<v Speaker 2>in his life and how God's been doing what he's

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<v Speaker 1>That's really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember how you grab two and you cheated? Okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>say Jim Carrey too.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to talk to Jim Carrey. He's also on Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Jim talking about pain bringing him that that's a powerful

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, powerful video? How pain is what's gotten his attention?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, talking about pain, Oh, I don't know. We're in

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<v Speaker 2>Matthew chapter six. That was a painful transition.

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<v Speaker 2>Painful transition I've done in a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's and that's that's where we're at. We're in this

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<v Speaker 2>on the Mountain, yep. And we jumped through the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of chapter five and he talks about all kinds of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>giving to the needy, praying, fasting, loving our enemies. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he says so many things. We're not going to preach

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<v Speaker 2>the whole sermon, but you should read it. And then

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<v Speaker 2>he talks about money, don't store up treasures on earth, instead,

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<v Speaker 2>store up treasures in heaven. And then finally he gets

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<v Speaker 2>to verse twenty five, and we're going to read twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five through four thirty four. In the sixth chapter, he says,

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<v Speaker 2>that is why I tell you not to worry about

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<v Speaker 2>every day life, whether you have enough food and drink

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<v Speaker 2>or enough clothes to wear. Isn't life more than food

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<v Speaker 2>and your body more than clothing. Look at the birds.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't plant or harvest or store food and barns

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<v Speaker 2>for your heavenly Father feeds them. And aren't you or

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<v Speaker 2>my wife? My wife spends the small fortune feeding birds,

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<v Speaker 2>so mine too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they don't plant or

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<v Speaker 2>God's job away from him. It's his job to feed

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<v Speaker 2>the birds. We don't need to spend so much money

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<v Speaker 2>on me. Back to the script, okay, says aren't you

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<v Speaker 2>far more valuable to him than they are? Can all

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<v Speaker 2>your worries at a single moment to your life? And

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<v Speaker 2>why worry about your clothing? Look at the lilies of

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<v Speaker 2>the field and how they grow. They don't work or

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<v Speaker 2>make their clothing. Yet Solomon, in all his glory, was

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<v Speaker 2>not dressed as beautifully as they are. And if God

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<v Speaker 2>cares so wonderfully for wild flowers that are here today

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<v Speaker 2>and thrown into the fire tomorrow, he will certainly care

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<v Speaker 2>for you. What do you have so little faith? So

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<v Speaker 2>don't worry about these things, saying what shall we eat?

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<v Speaker 2>Or what shall we drink? Or what will we wear?

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<v Speaker 2>These things dominate the thoughts of unbelievers, But your heavenly

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<v Speaker 2>Father already knows all your needs. Seek the Kingdom of

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<v Speaker 2>God above all else, and live righteously, and he will

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<v Speaker 2>give you everything you need. So don't worry about tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>For tomorrow bring its own worries. Today is trouble enough

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, don't worry about tomorrow. Let tomorrow worry about itself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's such a great thing to be reminded of because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I don't care who you are unless

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<v Speaker 3>you're an anomaly because I've not met you. Everybody worries

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<v Speaker 3>and and and it's and it's one of these things

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<v Speaker 3>where you know, Jesus is basically saying don't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And we also realize, based on every single study or

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<v Speaker 3>article that we've ever read and by life experience, that

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<v Speaker 3>worry accomplishes nothing, that worry is only negative and never positive.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no value and worry.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The only thing that maybe worry can bring that I

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<v Speaker 3>can muster out of a positive out of worry is

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes when we're flippant, we don't maybe take cautions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it can cause you to be a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more focused.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like maybe like if you're if you're not worried

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<v Speaker 3>about falling off a cliff. You may fall off cliff, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and so maybe maybe that could be the only thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you're saying attentiveness, you know, you're equating attentiveness. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably not the same showing a concern.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, probably not the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think there's a spectrum of worry. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 2>terror on one end, and there's just a conscious awareness

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<v Speaker 2>on the other end there's terror, yeah, yeah, and there

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<v Speaker 2>so there's a spectrum to it. So worry that brings focus.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's what we're talking about. What Jesus is saying,

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<v Speaker 2>is this debilitating worry that just consumes your life and

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<v Speaker 2>becomes examples, becomes the definition of your life.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he's talking about like clothing and food and things like.

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<v Speaker 2>That, the fundamental things of life.

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<v Speaker 1>And you think about it this way.

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<v Speaker 3>In the first century, like there were people who actually

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<v Speaker 3>did think, I wonder if I'm going to eat tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and and and honest people on earth today.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yes, of course, yes, uh wow, that was really insssive.

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<v Speaker 1>That I spoke like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I wasn't trying to point that out it no,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but it was it was, Well, Jesus was

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<v Speaker 2>talking to people like that, and we still have them

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<v Speaker 2>on the planet today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>And uh and and not only that, but like he's

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<v Speaker 3>he's talking about, uh, you know, God's creation, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>he uses creation as an example, and it's just a

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful thing to say, Hey, God created the flowers and

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<v Speaker 3>the birds. He takes care of them. They don't worry,

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<v Speaker 3>and and and they just through their natural instinct they

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<v Speaker 3>go through life. And somehow, some way, God always provides.

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<v Speaker 3>And and so God also created you, right and and

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<v Speaker 3>and he gave you a more sophisticated brain, and he

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<v Speaker 3>gave you all sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 1>But but just if you just have a.

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<v Speaker 3>Natural instinct to rely on God, uh, you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>just trust the way that the birds do and the

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<v Speaker 1>It's a beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet we as humans realize wory accomplishes nothing, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet we do it all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>We just get consumed with worry, and worry can take over.

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<v Speaker 3>Worry could actually In fact, I'm going to go on

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<v Speaker 3>a limb and say, I bet you I have no

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<v Speaker 3>ways to substantiate this, but I bet you ninety percent

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<v Speaker 3>of people who are listening to these words, right, now

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<v Speaker 3>are probably saying to themselves, Yeah, I need to hear this,

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<v Speaker 3>because I struggle with worry, and worry consumes me, and

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<v Speaker 3>worry gets the best of me, and it adds years

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<v Speaker 3>to my life, and I have more gray hairs. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel anxiety, and I feel stressed, and most of the

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<v Speaker 3>time when I worry, most of the things that I

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<v Speaker 2>I think worry is one of the consuming issues that

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<v Speaker 2>most people face. You know me well enough to know

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<v Speaker 2>I don't worry about a lot of things. Yes, It's

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<v Speaker 2>not an habitual thing for me. It's very frustrating to my.

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<v Speaker 1>Wife, right, it's frustrating to America.

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<v Speaker 2>She wants me to join her world. She wants me

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<v Speaker 2>to join her sometimes and the things she's worrying about.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of reasons for that. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm hyper spiritual. It's mostly that I'm not paying

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<v Speaker 2>attention and that, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That you have a very healthy mindset on worry.

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<v Speaker 2>So but I had this, I had this season, this

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<v Speaker 2>this this window of time about ten years ago where

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<v Speaker 2>I just was getting I felt like getting beat to

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<v Speaker 2>death by most people around me like I couldn't make

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<v Speaker 2>anybody happy. I had some staff members that were mad

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<v Speaker 2>were mad at me. I had people I thought were

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<v Speaker 2>allies that just turned out weren't allies. And all these

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<v Speaker 2>frustrating too. If I lay my pill my head on

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<v Speaker 2>my pillow, I'm asleep within five minutes. Just to sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>just out, man, I just I don't lay there and

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<v Speaker 2>worry about stuff. I don't think about it. I just

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<v Speaker 2>turned my brain off, go to sleep. It's because tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>has its own problems, right right, Jesus said, Hey, Tomorrow's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have his own problems. I got to get some

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<v Speaker 2>worry about things. But I'd had this window of time

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<v Speaker 2>of over the course of two or three weeks, where

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like I couldn't make anybody happy. I was

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<v Speaker 2>just in a mess, and I'd lost a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>sleep during that time, and it was really like disconcerting

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<v Speaker 2>to me because that's not how I live my life.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I had this guy who was bugging me

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<v Speaker 2>about coming to hunt on his property. And I love hunting,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the places I kind of recenter my

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<v Speaker 2>as the rest world goes. And it's weird because my

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<v Speaker 2>into focus. It's quiet, I'm by myself. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how I can do that for hours at a time,

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<v Speaker 2>because I can't do it anywhere else in my life,

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<v Speaker 2>just there in the woods. And so a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>read some scripture and I'll just sit and think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just looking around the woods, waiting for a deer

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<v Speaker 2>to walk by. So this guy was bugging me come hunting,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought that's a good place for me to recenter,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I go. I'd never been on his property,

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<v Speaker 2>I barely knew him. And it's like four o'clock in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning, and I'm exhausted anyways, but I hadn't really

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<v Speaker 2>slept much that night. I pull into his farm, I

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<v Speaker 2>open up the tailgate in my truck and I'm starting

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<v Speaker 2>his stuff, and he came up to me and he goes, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>the Lord just really spoke to me strongly, and he

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<v Speaker 2>gave me a gun case. I had a brand new

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<v Speaker 2>gun in it. It was a muzzleloader, like a black

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<v Speaker 2>powder the old fashioned, oh yeah gun. He said, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you have one of these. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. He said, I just feel like the Lord

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<v Speaker 2>wanted me to give this to you and say God

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<v Speaker 2>loves you and you're doing a great job, and remember

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<v Speaker 2>going what And I looked down and he had written

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<v Speaker 2>in a marker on the cover this verse, Matthew six

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<v Speaker 2>thirty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh come on, yeah, come on, I promise.

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<v Speaker 2>You really, and he said, seek the Kingdom of God

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<v Speaker 2>above all else and live righteously and He'll give you

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<v Speaker 2>everything you need. And it just kind of recentered me.

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<v Speaker 2>That was my thought the whole rest of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And my friend George, Yeah, that was my

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<v Speaker 2>first time ever out with him, right, And he gives

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<v Speaker 2>me this gun and you know I didn't have one

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<v Speaker 2>like that. I always wanted one, and he wrote Matthew

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<v Speaker 2>six thirty three. And I just sat there the whole

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the day just feeling like, And I went

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<v Speaker 2>back and reread this whole passage and see Guy's like,

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<v Speaker 2>no worries, no worries. And that was the day I

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<v Speaker 2>formulated this phrase, and I say it all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, so, don't worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow brings

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<v Speaker 2>its own worries. Today's troubles enough for today. Everything worth

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<v Speaker 2>doing is hard. Life is hard. The good and the

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<v Speaker 2>bad are both hard. It's hard to accomplish good things,

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<v Speaker 2>and not everybody's gonna like what you're doing, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna create enemies even as you're doing the right thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard. When you do the wrong thing, it makes

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<v Speaker 2>life harder. So on both sides, life is hard. Choose

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<v Speaker 2>which things you're going to do that are hard, that

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<v Speaker 2>are going to have the most value. That's what he's

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<v Speaker 2>saying here. So seek the King of God. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>the most value is going to be. Live a godly life,

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<v Speaker 2>a righteous life. God's going to give you what you need.

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<v Speaker 2>And everything worth doing is hard, So choose the best

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<v Speaker 2>things and do those. That's what we said. Man, that

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<v Speaker 2>totally changed, and so, like i'd say, the last ten

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<v Speaker 2>twelve years, I've had a totally different perspective on ministry

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<v Speaker 2>and on leading people than I did prior. And it

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<v Speaker 2>was that day, that book, or that day when he

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<v Speaker 2>wrote Matthew six thirty three on that Yeah, wow.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great story. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, God uses people in our lives, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, clearly God knew exactly what you needed, and

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<v Speaker 3>that it feels like to me, that's God's loving embrace

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<v Speaker 3>to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, It's just God does that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not a guy that people give lots of

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<v Speaker 2>gifts to.

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<v Speaker 1>God cares that much for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, so people don't just go, oh, hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought of you give you these gifts, right, I'm usually

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<v Speaker 2>not at the forefront of people's stuffs. So it was

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<v Speaker 2>a surprise me, probably maybe only the second or third

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<v Speaker 2>significant gift like that that I've ever had given from

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<v Speaker 2>a stranger, you know, or somebody in my ministry. And

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<v Speaker 2>so you're right, I did feel like it was like

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<v Speaker 2>a hug from God. Yeah, that's right, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>exactly right. Words. And his dad do you know those

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<v Speaker 2>do you know those little daily devotionals called Our Daily.

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<v Speaker 1>Bread, Daily Bread.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So his dad was the one who started that

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<v Speaker 2>and was the general editor for that for years and

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<v Speaker 2>years and years, and so he just at lunch that day,

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<v Speaker 2>he sat and talked about how difficult ministry can be.

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<v Speaker 2>And he grew up in that environment and he knew

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of times guys take take a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of hits and don't know where to turn. And he says, so,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want you to know I'm gonna be your friend,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be your ally. And I wasn't looking for

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<v Speaker 2>friends and allies, but he just and he's just attached

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<v Speaker 2>himself to me all these years. And thank God for

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<v Speaker 2>friends like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well he's standing the gap and you know, yep,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right. That's powerful for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And so I remember when you had you got cancer?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like like five minutes after I got hired.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I think I had it before I hired you.

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<v Speaker 2>I found out I had it right after we hired.

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<v Speaker 2>You hadn't even started working here yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it was actually like three days after I

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<v Speaker 3>gave my first message here, and then you told me

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<v Speaker 3>you were like, oh here, by the way, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>is that why you hired me as a backup plan?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? So I didn't know and some other people

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<v Speaker 3>might have thought that too. Yeah, but obviously God, you're

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<v Speaker 3>cancer free right now. But all that to say, I

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<v Speaker 3>got hired in. My first message was October eleventh, twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty here.

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<v Speaker 1>And then.

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<v Speaker 3>Four weeks later, excuse me, four weeks later or actually

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<v Speaker 3>it might have been six weeks something like that. You

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<v Speaker 3>gave a message on Worry Yeah, yep, in November, and

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<v Speaker 3>you actually I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was right before my surgery, yep, right for your.

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<v Speaker 3>Surgery, and you talked about you know, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't threaten somebody with heaven? Yeah, and and and

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's attitude was like what, like how could you? How

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<v Speaker 3>could you be that way?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what? And yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And you're just like, hey, well it was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the great missionaries. And I said this, I

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<v Speaker 2>think last week on the podcast, but he said, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>invincible until God's done with me. And it's true. How

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<v Speaker 2>can And my dad used to always say, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>threaten a Christian with heaven? Is that that is that

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<v Speaker 2>all the devil has? You're gonna die? Right, Oh really,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go to heaven.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so great, right, Hey, well that's a that's a

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<v Speaker 3>good place to end. So what a great passage and

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully we could walk away from today and just say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>worry less, right, trust God more, and and and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>and especially the kind of worry that's gonna be very

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<v Speaker 3>destructive and harmful. Let it go and let God be

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<v Speaker 3>God in our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Seek what's most important to God. That's his kingdom and

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<v Speaker 2>that that's that's primarily about reaching lost people who don't

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<v Speaker 2>know Jesus. And then live righteously, do the right thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Those two things you want to know a guy wants

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<v Speaker 2>from me, Do those two things. He's going to give

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<v Speaker 2>you everything else you need.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, all right, Well, hey, well hopefully we'll see

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<v Speaker 3>you tomorrow on the Bible, guys,