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Welcome to Digication
Scholars Conversations.

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I'm your host, Kelly Driscoll.

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In this episode, you'll hear Part Two
of my conversation with Whitney Fountain

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Ruiz, a recent graduate of Arizona
State University, where she received

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her master's degree in communication.

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You did have to make some decisions
about how you were going to organize

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it, and it sounds like you got kind of
a timeline for the course Kind of what

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areas were supposed to get filled in
at certain times to keep you on track.

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Um, but did you make decisions about
kind of how you wanted to, um, name

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certain parts of the portfolio you chose?

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It looks like some specific learning
outcomes that you wanted to focus on.

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Were those decisions that you made
or were they part of a template

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or prompts that you were given?

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What was that process like?

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I think it was a mix of both.

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Um, For example, there was one section
where I needed to speak about the

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organization and how I intertwined, how I
was um intertwined with the organization.

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How did I know this organization?

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Or how am I a participant in it?

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And, you know, I had that section split
like that, but I also added other things.

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I added a part on the side just to
explain Uh, more about the organization

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or, um, I showed the social media posts
that we had and, uh, videos, actually,

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yeah, a training video that I did that
wasn't requested of me, but I showed

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a training video that I did for the
Toastmasters just to show how much I was

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involved in it and the tools that I used.

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I will say that doing the project
as a whole, it really pushed me

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in a way where I, I learned that I
was capable, capable of doing other

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things than I didn't think I was,
especially on a time, on a timeline.

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All right.

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On a time crunch.

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Uh huh.

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And so, yeah, exactly.

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So, and, and like I said, and I got to use
so many great tools, especially with AI.

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I, uh, played around with some
things like on Canva, there is.

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Like an AI, uh, photo generator.

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And so I created a character and
then I found another website that,

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uh, has AI voices, I think it was
called Eleven or something like that.

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And so with this character, I
made her a voice in a script and

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then I edited the video and I put
it all together and it was just.

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It was something, uh, creative
that I always want to do.

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I know I'm capable of doing it.

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I've been editing since I was 18
for weddings and quinceañeras.

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And so I know, I know how to edit, but
it was just knowing that I could motivate

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myself to complete a project the way
that I want to do it, kind of like the

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way that you see other YouTubers do it.

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And I'm like, Hey, I can do this.

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You know, I, I always want to, but I never
am motivated to, but this project showed

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me that I could motivate myself and use
these new tools to push myself along.

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And they're really exciting.

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I mean, it's like a game to
me, you know, seeing these new.

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AI stuff, yeah, and creating videos
and and tools that I can show to future

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employee employers, you know Yeah,
yeah, absolutely And I was curious

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when you started this was this kind
of process on reflecting on your

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learnings Something that you had done
prior to this course, or was this

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a new kind of process for you too?

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Not only building the ePortfolio, but
having this kind of reflection built in.

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Meaning, did I take all the
information, for example, all the

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knowledge that I gained from my
whole degree and put it into this?

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Oh, well, I was kind of curious.

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So for some students, they've never been
asked So I think for many students, they

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go through this process as they're going
to school of doing an assignment, turning

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it in, getting a grade, and moving on.

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And for many students, they haven't,
before they've gone through a process of

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creating an ePortfolio, had, um, any kind
of time or tool available where they're

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actually thinking about what they may have
learned from that experience and how it

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may connect to other things that they've
learned before or that are part of kind

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of future things that they want to know.

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This kind of reflection process
is often very new to them.

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Had you been asked about that?

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to do that in any prior courses,
or was that a new experience also?

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Yeah, in the training and development
course, we were asked to, I think we

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were asked to pick our skills, like a
certain amount of skills and competency.

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Uh, Skills Lists, and then we were asked
to apply the information that we learned,

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I think, either within that course or
within other courses to each skill.

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So we, we had to show examples.

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Let's say I said that one of my
skills was working well with others.

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Luckily, I take lots of screenshots
with meetings and was able to

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show, okay, this is the team.

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Actually, yeah, I have video too.

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I said, this is the team that I
worked with for this project and

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this is how we work together.

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I showed them the documents that we made
and showed how we work together as a team.

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Like for example, and I've learned this
throughout the years when we have to do a

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group project, I make sure I'm the first
person to create a document and I put,

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I put all of our names in the document.

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I put my, I, as an example, I put
my phone number and the times and

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days that I'm available, and then I.

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Make another section like, okay, this
is a list of tasks that we might need to

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do and who wants to take on each task.

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So that way I'm kind of in control of
what you're setting the stage there.

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So I showed off a document like that,
you know, this is how I, um, how I worked

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with the team and they appreciated that.

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They loved it because it took off.

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Uh, a lot of them told me
that it took off pressure.

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Um, even like nobody likes to be
the leader and it wasn't that I was.

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I'm trying to be a leader.

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I, I wanted to be the facilitator.

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That's like, that's one of my favorite
roles to do, you know, so if, if every,

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if there's someone who can't meet up,
I'll make sure that I take video of the

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meeting and send it to them, you know,
and I'll, I'll make sure that everybody.

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Is participant or, um, given the
information that is needed so

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that we can all get a good grade.

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You know, my friend, she told
me, she's like, I'm so glad

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you're in my group right now.

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Cause I already know how you work and
I know we're going to get a good grade.

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Yeah.

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I did put pressure on
myself to get good grades.

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And the funny thing is, I
tell my son, Don't worry.

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You don't pressure yourself.

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But he saw me.

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And I think that's why he puts
so much pressure on himself.

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He's like, Okay, look.

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You're over there getting A's, Mom.

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So, I guess I have to do it too.

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Well, and how incredible for
him to get to get to see you

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through this experience, too.

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I'm sure it's been
incredibly inspiring for him.

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Or scary for him for the future.

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I don't know.

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I think my husband says like,
finally, you're not a monster anymore.

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You're done.

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No, I mean, I it was I was stressed,
but I think also, um, I might have

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just put that much stress on myself,
because, like you were mentioning...

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um, a lot of students, they do their,
their work and then they get a grade.

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And for us, once you get that
grade, it's a validation.

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Okay.

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Now I know either I did good or I
did bad and I can fix it or not.

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But with the, with the Digication, the
last one that I did for Capstone, we

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weren't receiving any grades per section.

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It was like, you, you have to
do this whole project and then

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you'll get the grade at the end.

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So that's, I think that's what
made it, uh, um, scary or gave us

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a little bit of anxiety over it.

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It's a bigger project, yeah.

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And even though eight weeks isn't a lot
of time, it's still, yeah, a accumulation

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of a lot of work and writing about what
you've done and what you've achieved.

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And what I really enjoyed about, uh,
your, your ePortfolio also is that you

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included some really interesting, uh,
kinds of, we often refer to as kind

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of pieces of evidence of your learning
that people might not think about.

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So you mentioned you take a
lot of screenshots and things

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of your meetings and videos.

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And there was one in particular that
you shared that I thought was great.

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That it was actually during, um, I
think it may have been a training or

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educational exercise, but it was something
where the technology was not working.

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Oh, yes.

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And, and we've all been there, right?

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Um, but you shared that because you wanted
people to see, you know, this is how I

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was trying to problem solve in the moment.

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And this is what I learned
from that experience and things

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that I'll do going forward.

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Should I be in that kind of situation

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What, you know, at Digication, when
we're creating this platform, we're

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always thinking about ways that
students can always have an opportunity

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to share who they are, and what they
know, and their successes, of course,

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but we really also want it to be
that place where they can celebrate

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the whole person and that includes
the challenges they've encountered.

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It includes those, um, bumpy times someone
the other day was talking about as being

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those wobbly, wobbly moments where we
may not be in sure footing, um, but that

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we, are able to, you know, make our way
through and look back on and, you know,

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whether we see that as um, you know, we
call it kind of failing forward where, you

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know, you may recognize that you messed up
or something didn't go the way you wanted,

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but how you've grown from that and may
approach things differently in the future.

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And I loved that you, you know,
shared that situation because I'm

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sure it was very uncomfortable.

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Well, first of all, I spent hours.

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I would, I spent so many hours.

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I found a video online, uh, I think the
Digication that you're telling, talking

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about, um, I, for one of the training
videos, I wanted to teach my teammates

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about creating a, uh, PowerPoint.

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Yes.

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An effective PowerPoint.

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And there's a great video about it, uh,
and it was like, I'll say 20 minutes long.

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Mm hmm.

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And I shrunk it down to five minutes.

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About five minutes.

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I really had to cut it up and I, I
spent so many hours on it and I was

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so excited to show my team and then
it, they couldn't hear, they couldn't

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hear what was going on, like what
the heck, why isn't that working?

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Um, and then I just said, okay, well,
you know, This is, yeah, like you

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said, um, having experiences like
that really teaches you that you

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need to, what you need to do next
time, how you need to be prepared.

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So when I do, for example, an
interview with someone, I make sure

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I have my phone next to me too,
to also record the interview in

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case for some reason the computer
doesn't record the sound, you know.

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And, and it really has
taught me how to be prepared.

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The, the reflection part
of those Digications.

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are really essential because I
think a lot of people are afraid

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of, of failing, of course.

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They don't know, even, not just
failing, they're just afraid of,

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in general, not, of the unknown.

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They're afraid of the unknown.

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And reflecting on those things
and figuring out what you could

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have done for the next time.

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It really, it really builds resilience.

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It really builds problem solving skills
and prepares you for the future, for

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whatever you're going to do in the future.

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It's really important.

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You know, my daughter, she's, like
I said, she's, uh, working, she,

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she finished her psychology degree.

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Um, She wishes that
she took communications

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because a lot of the things
that I've learned, she really

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wanted to learn more about.

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And, and she ended up doing, um, right
now she's working on her dancing degree.

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But I told her, even though you didn't.

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You don't want to further
pursue your psychology degree.

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You've learned so much from it.

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And it's not just about psychology.

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Again, it's about problem solving,
working with others, critical

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thinking, all those things you'll,
that will keep with you forever.

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And she also became interested
in body language too, cause

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she saw I was studying it.

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And now she, she realizes that a
lot of the things that she's learned

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in psychology or what she studied
about body language, she uses, she's

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Um, as a dancing instructor, she,
she sees if someone's uncomfortable

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or if they want to ask a question.

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So she does use those skills.

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It's, it's not, of course,
it's never gone to waste.

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She has a psychology degree.

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If she wants another job, she has
that to back her, you know, um,

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and, and I'm trying to get my son
to understand those things too, even

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in, he's in high school right now
and I tell him, um, ask questions.

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It's okay if you fail.

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I think I tried to practice for a while.

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I've seen a parent asking their child.

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Oh, what did you fail at today?

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To try to reflect on that.

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It didn't last very long.

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I did try to get him into it, but I wanted
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You make mistakes, but if you make a
mistake, you can also ask questions

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until you, um, get help or find
the answer that you're looking for.

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And, uh, so I think you mentioned he's,
um, he's, is he in college yet or not yet?

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No, he's, he just started high school.

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Oh, he just started high school.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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But what a wonderful conversations
to be having with him at this time.

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I have a recent high school graduate and
two juniors right now, and I, I understand

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the, um, challenge sometimes in getting
them to talk about their day, especially

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saying, you know, where did you,

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I've learned that they don't
write when they get out of school.

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No, they're not going
to talk about it, but.

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As soon as it's time for
somebody to go to bed.

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Like if I want to go to bed, all of a
sudden, there's a whole conversation.

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I, I try to throw it in, you know,
throughout the day though, um, when

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we're listening to a song and the subject
comes up or when we're watching TV,

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I do try to make that those moments.

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I don't know if it annoys him.

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I mean, he engages in the conversation.

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Yeah, he engages in the conversation.

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So, I do try to make
certain learning moments.

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Or I'll let him tell me things, you know.

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I'll let him talk sometimes.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Well, I appreciate those times where they,
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Stuck in the car with me.

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I feel like that's sometimes
when the wonderful stories come

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out and I try to just listen.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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So fun.

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Um, so I was curious, you know, now
that you're a, um, recent graduate

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and, you know, already starting to
do some new things in your career.

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Um, you know, thinking back on this, if
you might have any advice for New students

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that might just be embarking on this.

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Um, if there's, uh, maybe in communication
or not, if you feel like it might be

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a value to students in other kinds
of disciplines too, what might advice

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would you have for students that may be
new to the whole idea of a ePortfolio

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or just taking time to think about how
they might share who they are and what

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their experiences are with other people?

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I would say, uh, yeah, I have
a lot of advice for this one.

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We want to hear it.

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Yeah, the first thing I would say is
to schedule, like, time management.

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Work on your time management skills.

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Set goals for yourself.

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And you, you know what?

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Break, break them down.

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Okay.

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Today or at least this week.

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I will get a paragraph done, or I
will design this spot, you know, I, I

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don't know, and one of the Digication,
someone told us to work backwards kind

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of, um, because I think the very first
page was just introducing ourselves

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and that's the easy part, so they were
just telling us to work backwards and,

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um, I would say also have fun with it,
because like I said, that's what saved

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me, is just being able to, uh, play with
editing tools and, uh, photos and AI.

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It was really fun for me.

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I would say have, uh, Make friends, a
friend that you can call or write to

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and, uh, or even like on email to, to see
how things are going and ask questions.

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That would be the next uh, advice
would be to ask questions because with

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my last Digication, I had a mentor.

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That, that's, that was the purpose of
having the mentor to ask questions.

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I went to her to, um, I think we had to
go to the mentor at least three times.

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So in the beginning to ask,
how are we supposed to do this?

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And then, or I think even,
I was trying to figure out.

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How to define the problem that I
was working on, cause my Capstone

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Digication, we had to figure
out a communication problem.

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And an organization that it connected to.

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So I needed to define
what I was working on.

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And I, that's really important
to understand where you're going

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with it, you know, so that you
can know how to set everything up.

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Asking questions with the mentor,
showing her, she, I showed her my work

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the second time that I met with her.

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And she said, okay, you
look like you're on track.

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And that helped out, that helped me feel
better about the projects because you

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know, there was positive feedback or even
if it wasn't positive, at least she would

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let me know what I needed to work on.

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And then the last one, she was just
like, Oh, you look like you're done.

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And I was like, really?

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Okay, I'm finished finally.

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Yeah, I was like, okay,
I'll enter it right now.

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It sounds like I'm done.

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I will enter it right now.

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And, and understand that you're going
to change your mind on a lot of things.

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You, you, you, it's okay to just put
it down, put all the work down first.

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I think I, I looked at someone's
Digication in the beginning stages

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and they literally just pasted their
stuff on and it was all over the place.

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But they just wanted to get their
idea down and then they organized

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it later, just like they tell you
to do when you're, uh, writing

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an essay or a story or something.

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Just get your ideas down
and then edit it later.

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That way you don't block yourself.

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You just, you just let it all out.

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So that, those would be the things.

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That would be the advice
that I would give.

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Time management.

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Ask questions.

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Get a friend.

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Have fun.

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And I don't remember what
was the last thing I said.

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Oh, get it all out.

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Don't be afraid to make a mess so
I think we're, we put more pressure

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on ourselves as students than
the teachers do, and it's okay.

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Just realize that it's okay.

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I saw a, uh, college speech,
a valedictorian, I don't

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know how to say it properly.

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I think you got it.

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Valedictorian.

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Valedictorian.

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The way, what he said was, um, he
worked so hard in school that he

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realized that he missed out on a
lot of things, like spending time

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with family and things like that.

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So I, I would say also create
a balance for yourself.

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Make time for yourself by yourself, make
time for your friends, make time for

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your family and make time for school.

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So create a good balance
so that you don't go crazy.

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That is good advice.

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Yeah, and we always in, uh, you know,
just in terms of the kind of tools

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and design and the platform, uh,
speaking to some of the things that

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you mentioned, we always try to make
the tools, approachable in such a way

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that you can start with something that
is, um, kind of, uh, unfinal, right?

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So that you can keep growing it and
changing it and moving things around

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if you need to, if you needed to
move pages around or content from one

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page to another that you can do that
and even create different versions

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of your ePortfolio along the way.

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Yeah, depending on who you wanted to
share it with and having those mentors

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and friends around you is so important.

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So being able to share it with
other people and get advice.

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And I was kind of curious with the
mentor that you had, um, were they

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another student at the school or was
it someone that worked in some kind

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of resource position at the school.

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How did you get connected?

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Lucky for me?

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It happened to be my previous professor.

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That was my training and development...

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she had already saw my work
before my previous education

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and so she knew she is short.

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But she's like I already
know you got this.

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It's okay It was perfect because
I was already Uh, I already

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knew her, so it was nice.

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She made me feel comfortable.

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Good.

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Good.

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Yes.

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Fostering those relationships.

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Yes.

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You mentioned that earlier
in the conversation, too.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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And the first Digication that we, that
we did, it was more about ourselves.

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Like I said, it was about the
skills that we've acquired from

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the degree, from the course.

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And I think that was really important
for us students to do because It

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made us, um, one of my friends,
she was like, um, Hey, they called

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us, uh, a communication scholar.

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Like, as if we weren't, we'd like, we
needed somebody to tell us it so we could.

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Recognize our accomplishments.

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And doing that Digication also allowed
us to recognize those accomplishments

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and be like, okay, you know what?

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I am capable.

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Sometimes we might have imposter
syndrome, you know, like, okay, even

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though I'm learning this, it doesn't mean
I'm an expert at it or that I know it.

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And I understand we're always growing.

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We're always learning.

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The information, but the Digication
helped me to realize that I

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have fostered these skills.

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Yes.

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And, and now I can be proud to
say that I actually have them.

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Yeah.

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Very validating.

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Yeah.

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Indeed.

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Yeah.

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Hard to, hard to deny that you're
a scholar, that you see all of

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that work and growth together.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, Whitney, thank you
again for joining me today.

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It was such a pleasure to talk to
you and I still look forward to

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sharing our conversation with others.

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Thank you.

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I enjoyed our conversation and it
just makes me more excited about

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learning more and, and sharing
this information with others.

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Wonderful.

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I hope that you do.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you.

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