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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everybody, Jeff, Jeff, Chris. Yes, welcome to the Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>And we are, of course, Jeff and Chris, and we

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<v Speaker 2>just want to say thank you for tuning in. If

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<v Speaker 2>this is your very first time. We have five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and ninety three other episodes in our archive that you

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, five hundred and ninety three, We're about that six,

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<v Speaker 3>We're about to six hundred next week, Yes, next Friday. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it needs to be a wild party next time. The

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it'd be wild and crazy up here at

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<v Speaker 3>the Bible Guys podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to bring wild cherry life because that's how wild.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, that's crazy. Might choose some bubble gum. Okay, So, Chris,

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<v Speaker 3>I have a big one for you today because everybody

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<v Speaker 3>knows our longtime listeners know you're.

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<v Speaker 2>A big movie Have we ever done this moment?

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<v Speaker 3>No, this is a new segment, new segment, but everybody

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<v Speaker 3>knows you're a big movie buff.

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<v Speaker 2>I am a big movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. See Chris, Chris lives for movies. It's it's his

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<v Speaker 3>main purpose in.

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<v Speaker 2>Life for Jesus, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yes, that's what I meant to say. What did

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<v Speaker 3>I say? Yeah? Yeah, which is not true. So so

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<v Speaker 3>for today's segment, I'm going to read off songs. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna read off song titles, okay, and you need to

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<v Speaker 3>say which movie it's from as fast as you can. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have eleven of them. I'm not sure why

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<v Speaker 3>we have eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>Goodness, it's very great fun.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's very fast. Okay, Okay, I'm gonna read the title. Then,

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<v Speaker 3>A whole new.

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<v Speaker 2>World, A whole new world, don't you dare?

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<v Speaker 3>Aladdin? There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe it took me that long to get Aladdin.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go. Okay, ready, here he goes. Ever ever

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<v Speaker 3>after enchanted, I would have never known that. Yeah, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, that's okay. That's when you wish upon a star,

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<v Speaker 3>Pinocchio under the Sea, Little Raid, once upon a Dream.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you, Si, Beauty, Portobello Road.

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<v Speaker 2>Road.

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<v Speaker 3>I know this is a movie, not a not a.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Bed knobs and broomsticks.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I saw bed knobs and broomsticks in the seventies.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Fact hey, by the way, side note, h the charm

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<v Speaker 2>of making at the end of bed Knobs and room

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<v Speaker 2>Sticks went when all those night the knights come to life?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, there, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Still remember the spell tragoona mccoity's Tregor and satis d okay, great.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you didn't just say something evil to me.

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<v Speaker 2>No, aubstitute, so I know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's okay. Bed Knobs and Broomsticks is where it's from. Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>here's ready. So that was a number six. This is

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<v Speaker 3>number seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Colors of the Wind, Poconnas. I would have never known

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<v Speaker 3>that you'll be in my heart.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll be in my heart, Yes, you'll be in my heart.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Tarzan Oh yeah, that's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>To be fair though, that really never hit. It was

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<v Speaker 2>an Elton John song, right, yeah, I don't be in

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<v Speaker 2>my heart.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all full and saying that.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It did never really get ready reflection may Molan.

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<v Speaker 3>A dream is a wish your heart makes.

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<v Speaker 2>The dream is a wish your heart makes.

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<v Speaker 3>Cinderella, Cinderella, that's right. Someday my prince will.

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<v Speaker 2>Come some snow White.

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<v Speaker 3>Snow White and the seven Doors. That's right, God helped

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<v Speaker 3>the outcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>God help the outcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I would I would have this one. I would have

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<v Speaker 3>known this.

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<v Speaker 2>You would have known this one. Yes, God helped the outcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like the Island of Misfit Toys. I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>The Hunchback of Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I never liked that one. I think I've

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<v Speaker 2>only seen that twice.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, and then should I worry?

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<v Speaker 2>Why should I worry?

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<v Speaker 2>Why? I have no idea. Oliver and Company, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I have only seen that once.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go. Okay, so you got eight out of eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, that's impressive, Chris. There you go, there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're gonna give you ten thousand points apiece. Nice

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<v Speaker 3>for the ones that you got. Nice, So you got,

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<v Speaker 3>you got eighty thousand points, and for the if we

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<v Speaker 3>had any any of our listeners that got the ones

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<v Speaker 3>that you missed, we're gonna give me a hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 3>points apiece.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you trade all that in at a Chuck E.

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<v Speaker 2>Cheese store, that will buy me a fruit loop.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing it will get you nothing is what I get you.

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<v Speaker 3>So congratulations, Yes, very impressive, and I'm delighted by the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that she chose all Disney songs.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh they were all Disney.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's all Disney.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, which is right up your alley? Sure? Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>well you know we watched Disney.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Although ben Outs and Broomsticks was a stretch and Portabello Road,

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<v Speaker 2>I still have no idea what that means. That sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like an opening song or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Portobello is a is a mushroom? I know it

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<v Speaker 3>is roads or vehicles or places where you travel on.

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<v Speaker 2>Why why are you why are you?

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<v Speaker 3>You said you don't know what Portobello Road means.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying there, it's obviously the name of a road, yes, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And so it sounds like an opening song or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it must be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know which. Who the heck? That's not famous?

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you choose that song because she had a

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<v Speaker 2>Google something? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Google sent it? Yeah, Google send it to her. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>hey there you go. Thank you so much, Desiree for

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<v Speaker 3>putting Chris in his place, right right?

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<v Speaker 2>I think eight out of eleven is bad.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's beyond impressive. I only knew like three of them,

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<v Speaker 3>so really, I would have known. Uh, I would have

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<v Speaker 3>known under the sea.

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<v Speaker 2>I could by the way I could sing everyone that

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<v Speaker 2>I knew.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would have. I would have known under the sea.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would have known when you wish upon a star,

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<v Speaker 3>and I would have known God helped the outcasts. I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't known any of the others.

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<v Speaker 2>You would have known God helped the outcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, Okay, how's it go. I'm not going to sing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just give me the chorus.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna sing it. Why I would have known

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<v Speaker 3>the title. I don't know the words, but I would

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<v Speaker 3>have known the title. And the reason is I commented

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<v Speaker 3>on it when we were at Notre Dame here just recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, so you actually went yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, by the way, is it restored? Was it after Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>They just they just reopened it. Yeah. I haven't gone

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<v Speaker 3>in yet. We were there the day before they reopened.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how my life works. By the way, so we've been,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been. I've been in Paris probably I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>ten times in the last two years. Long layovers and

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<v Speaker 3>so pop into the city, and we've been watching them

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<v Speaker 3>rebuild Notre Dame. But I had commented then that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>sanctuary using that that building to and the outcasts, and

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<v Speaker 3>then it was God Save the outcasts. Is kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the connection that I'd made there. So yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 3>I kept looking for the gargoyles to sing, and they

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<v Speaker 3>don't sing. Turns out right, turns out total jyp. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they start singing once they reopened. Okay. So anyways, one

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<v Speaker 3>Kings chapter fourteen, and.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I was looking for all the right

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<v Speaker 2>answers on that on that quiz, yes, and it turns

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<v Speaker 2>out that a lot of Hyja has the right answers

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<v Speaker 2>for Jurabom.

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<v Speaker 3>Unbelievably right answers. Yes, this is really amazing. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 3>you got to remember now the kingdom is divided. There's

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<v Speaker 3>the North, that's the Ten tribes, and then there's the

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<v Speaker 3>South Judah, the two tribes. Pretty good, You're doing pretty

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<v Speaker 3>great this week, Chris, Yes, way better than me. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just not with it this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, back to the real stuff, go ahead, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, So the southern tribes Judah and Benjamin are

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<v Speaker 3>divided from the northern tribes the other ten tribes of Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, Judah is very large, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest one, right, Yeah, by far, yeah, by far. And

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<v Speaker 2>so when it sounds like, oh, it's only two versus

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<v Speaker 2>is the ten?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just it's like a sixty forty split, Yeah, sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty split, yeah yeah, meaning that the forty the sixty

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<v Speaker 2>is with the ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Is with the ten. Yeah yeah, okay. So it says

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<v Speaker 3>at that time, Jeroboam's son a Bijah became very sick.

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<v Speaker 3>So Jeabohm told his wife, disguise yourself so that no

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<v Speaker 3>one will recognize you as my wife, and then go

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<v Speaker 3>to the prophet Ahijah Abijah and a Hijah. You also

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<v Speaker 3>have Jerebam and Raya Baum. Remember it really makes me angry,

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<v Speaker 3>makes me right, right, So so these names are close.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to pay close attention. So a Bijah is sick,

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<v Speaker 3>and Jereboam tells his wife, disguise yourself so that no

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<v Speaker 3>one will recognize your as my wife. And then go

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<v Speaker 3>to the prophet a Hijah at Shiloh, the man who

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<v Speaker 3>told me I would become king. Take him a gift

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<v Speaker 3>of ten loaves of bread, some cakes, and a jar

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<v Speaker 3>of honey, and ask him what will happen to the boy.

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<v Speaker 3>So Jerebaum's wife went to a Hija's home in Shiloh.

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<v Speaker 3>He was an old man now and could no longer see.

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<v Speaker 3>But the Lord had told a Hijah, Jerobome's wife will

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<v Speaker 3>come here pretending to be someone else. She'll ask you

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<v Speaker 3>about her son, for he is very sick. Give her

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<v Speaker 3>the answer I give you. Wow. So when i Hida

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<v Speaker 3>heard her footsteps at the door, he called out, come in,

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<v Speaker 3>wife of Jeroboam, why are you pretending to be someone else?

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<v Speaker 3>And then he told her, I have bad news for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Give your husband, Jeroboam, this message from the Lord, the

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<v Speaker 3>God of Israel. I promoted you from the ranks of

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<v Speaker 3>the common people and made you rule over my people Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>I riped the kingdom away from the family of David

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<v Speaker 3>and gave it to you. But you have not been

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<v Speaker 3>like my servant David, who obeyed my commands and followed

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<v Speaker 3>me with all his heart and always did whatever I wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>You have done more evil than all who lived before you.

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<v Speaker 3>Holy Chris, you have made other gods for yourself and

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<v Speaker 3>have made me furious with your gold calves. And since

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<v Speaker 3>male descendants, slave and free. Alike anywhere in Israel. I

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<v Speaker 3>until it's all gone. The members of Jereboam's family who

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<v Speaker 3>The Lord have spoken Woo wow. Then I Haijah said

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<v Speaker 3>the city, the child will die. All Israel will mourn

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<v Speaker 3>for him and bury him. He is the only member

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<v Speaker 3>this child is the only good thing that the Lord,

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<v Speaker 3>the God of Israel, sees in the entire family of Jeoboam.

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<v Speaker 3>In addition, the Lord will raise up a king over

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<v Speaker 3>Israel who will destroy the family of Jeroboam. And this

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<v Speaker 3>Israel like a reed whipped about in a stream. He

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<v Speaker 3>that he gave their ancestors, and will scatter them beyond

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<v Speaker 3>the Euphrates River, for they have angered the Lord with

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<v Speaker 3>will abandon Israel because Jeroboam sinned and made Israel sin

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<v Speaker 3>and the child died just as she walked through the

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<v Speaker 3>prophet Ahijah. Yikes, this not messing around.

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<v Speaker 2>This is definitely consequences.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, paying the fiddler there you go. Yeah, well, so

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<v Speaker 3>do you remember when a Hija originally came to Jereboam.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, listen, if you do the right thing like

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<v Speaker 3>and your descendants after them will rule if you just

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<v Speaker 3>follow God like David. Follow God. David wasn't perfect, right,

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about that in the previous things. This guy

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<v Speaker 3>was to lead his people to keep following God. Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not perfect at this, but let's keep pursuing God.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's keep chasing God. Let's build a temple for God.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's increase our commitment to God. Let's depend on God more.

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<v Speaker 3>And so God said listen, Jereboam, if you will follow

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<v Speaker 3>me like David followed me, I will establish your kingdom forever.

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<v Speaker 3>And now God's saying I gave up on you there, Boem.

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<v Speaker 3>You're never going to do it. You're never going. As

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<v Speaker 3>a matter of fact, you've done more wicked than anybody

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<v Speaker 3>else who's come before you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anybody else who's come before you? Is does he

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<v Speaker 2>mean combined? Because I'm telling you what that is an

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<v Speaker 2>unbelievable statement.

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<v Speaker 3>You have done more evil than all who lived before you.

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<v Speaker 2>See, that's that to me feels like combined or you

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<v Speaker 2>just mean every You read it as everyone, right, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm reading it that.

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<v Speaker 3>All the other kings of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Other kings, Okay, yeah, that could be true, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Which which wasn't very many. It was Saul. Saul was

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<v Speaker 3>was wicked. David did wickedness, but was pursuing God and

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<v Speaker 3>kept repenting. Solomon started off good and then started building

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<v Speaker 3>temples for his wives, but he was blending kind of

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<v Speaker 3>this worship with God and a Sera and Astro well

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<v Speaker 3>Astroth and Bail and Molek right, and then now jere

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<v Speaker 3>Boehm has thrown it all off and created his own

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<v Speaker 3>gods and thrown off God completely and God, so you're

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<v Speaker 3>you're the worst of all of them so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and Holy cal So you know, again, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just one of these things where when you get bad news,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you have to accept both good and bad

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<v Speaker 2>from God. So you know, didn't Job say that, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna accept good and not accept bad. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in this case there's a justness to it. Right, So

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<v Speaker 2>God is just and this is a very harsh penalty,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's again, it's just the just execution of consequences.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it shouldn't be a surprise though, right, right, because God,

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<v Speaker 3>God littally said when we read at the end of Deuteronomy,

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<v Speaker 3>Moses is giving the law and he's reminding them again

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<v Speaker 3>because the law has already been established, you know, forty

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<v Speaker 3>years before, eighty years before, whatever it was. Forty years

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<v Speaker 3>the law was already established. But Moses, before he dies,

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<v Speaker 3>gets back up in front of the people and restates

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<v Speaker 3>it all again. I don't want you forget. You train

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<v Speaker 3>your children when you walking by the way, when you're

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<v Speaker 3>standing in, when you're sitting at breakfast, when you're lying

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<v Speaker 3>Keep teaching your children or anything. And then he says, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm giving you a choice between life and death, between

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<v Speaker 3>blessing and cursing. So the blessing isn't because of you,

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<v Speaker 3>it's because of God. And the cursing isn't because of you,

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<v Speaker 3>it's because of God. But both of those are a choice.

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<v Speaker 3>So you can choose God's favor, choose life, choose blessing,

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<v Speaker 3>or you can go against God, and then you're choosing

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<v Speaker 3>the curse and death. This is exactly the same thing

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<v Speaker 3>he did for Jereboam. It's not that God's unfair, it's

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<v Speaker 3>that the roosters are coming or that the chickens are

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<v Speaker 3>coming home to roost. You made your choice. I gave

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<v Speaker 3>you the choice. If you remember, are the people who've

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<v Speaker 3>been listening for a while, you remember we go back

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<v Speaker 3>to the Jereboam thing. He said, I'm giving you a

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<v Speaker 3>choice today, and now here we are late in his

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<v Speaker 3>rule and God goes you chose the wrong way. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not like it was confusing. Keep worshiping me, that's all

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<v Speaker 3>you have to do. And instead what did you do?

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<v Speaker 3>You went and made golden calves and led people to

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<v Speaker 3>worship your golden calves. That's not a very confusing thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not confusing. It's not like, oops, I accidentally made

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of golden calves and began sacrificing for them. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not what he did. This isn't an oops. This

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<v Speaker 3>is a full on rebellion. I don't care about you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and yesterday's podcast, we talked about the old man

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<v Speaker 2>and the prophet, right, and so here it says that

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<v Speaker 2>the Man of God came, warned him, did a miracle

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<v Speaker 2>in front of him, but with the altar miraculously splitting

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<v Speaker 2>in two, in the ashes going on the ground, and

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<v Speaker 2>his hand and his hand getting frozen. And so what

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<v Speaker 2>does he do. He begs, the prophet, pray to your God,

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<v Speaker 2>that might have be restored. He gets it restored. God

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<v Speaker 2>chose the mercy just in that one simple thing. And then,

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<v Speaker 2>as they say, it says, he did not choose to

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<v Speaker 2>turn from his waist. He continued, He continued, So it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, God will give us warning, God to reach out,

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<v Speaker 2>got to give us chances. Right, It's not as if

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<v Speaker 2>God doesn't love us. It's not as if God isn't

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<v Speaker 2>patient with us. That God gives us, you know, He

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<v Speaker 2>gives us opportunity over and over to repent, to turn

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<v Speaker 2>back to Him, to make things right, to make the

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<v Speaker 2>right choices. And I don't really know too many situations

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<v Speaker 2>where somebody makes a mistake and immediately you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>this massive judgment, you know, when they're you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>today's day and age, we make choices, we live in

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<v Speaker 2>those choices. I think that God gives us opportunity after opportunity,

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<v Speaker 2>day after day, and usually when things come crashing down,

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<v Speaker 2>it isn't in a moment's notice, it's after a long

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<v Speaker 2>period of time.

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<v Speaker 3>I have had a sense God does keep some people

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<v Speaker 3>in short leashes. I've had that sense in my life

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<v Speaker 3>that I see other people get away with stuff for

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<v Speaker 3>a long time. And when I was a young person,

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<v Speaker 3>I tried to get away something, I felt like I

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<v Speaker 3>got caught, like the first time, over and over and

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<v Speaker 3>over again. It was that way. So I do think

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<v Speaker 3>He keeps people on some people in short leashes. But

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<v Speaker 3>for the most part, the Bible says his mercy endurs forever.

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<v Speaker 3>He's constantly extending forgiveness, he's constantly being he says in

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<v Speaker 3>Peter that he's being patient for your sake. He's not

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<v Speaker 3>moving slowly, he's just being patient for our sakes. But

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<v Speaker 3>with Jerobohm, he's able to look into Jerbom's life and saying,

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<v Speaker 3>Jerabom's never turning bag. He's he's gone past the point

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<v Speaker 3>of return, right. So I think that there was God

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<v Speaker 3>held out during this time. I think he sent the

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<v Speaker 3>prophet to him earlier because I think Jerobomb still had

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<v Speaker 3>an opportunity to choose, but then, like you said, he

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<v Speaker 3>chose not to and now he's past the point of

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<v Speaker 3>no return. And God goes, well, I'm done with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't You're never going to change. So we're done,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's going to hurt, right, But this is all

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<v Speaker 3>that God had said was going to happen at the beginning. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>God had said, this is the beginning, dude, you can

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<v Speaker 3>have the kingdom forever, right if you just follow me.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just understand this isn't you know. If you

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<v Speaker 3>only read this story by itself, it goes like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>God's kind of mean. But when you look at the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that he had opportunity after opportunity after opportunity, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was a nobody, he was a supervisor for building

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<v Speaker 3>the temple, that that was his job, and Solomon was like,

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<v Speaker 3>this young guy's pretty sharp. Jerre Bohm's a sharp guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I should I should put him in charge of more stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And then God sends a hija to say, hey, jereboam.

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<v Speaker 3>As a matter of fact, God's going to put you

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<v Speaker 3>in charge of the whole kingdom, right well, ten of

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<v Speaker 3>the tribes. So he was just a worker and God

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<v Speaker 3>elevates him to king and then suddenly he just and

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<v Speaker 3>God says, the one condition is keep following me. And

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<v Speaker 3>over a lifetime he rejected God. And the pain of

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<v Speaker 3>rejecting God, it's always going to hurt. It's always going

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<v Speaker 3>to hurt. So, yeah, anyways, that's a it's a sad

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<v Speaker 3>thing for me. But at the same time, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>unjust right God, God's doing the right thing and is

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<v Speaker 3>doing the just thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there's and there's all sorts of pagan worship here.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>He set up, he says, for he angered the Lord

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<v Speaker 2>with the astropolds that he'd set up for worship in

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<v Speaker 2>addition to the golden cabs, right, yeah, and the astropoles.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of scholars believe those were phallic symbols because

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<v Speaker 2>it was a sexual God and so it's just so

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<v Speaker 2>there's this I mean, it's just weird and distorted, and

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's no wonder why you know, God's anger

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<v Speaker 2>is coming down in the most fierce way. And what

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<v Speaker 2>he's really saying is he's saying like he's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to handle blasphemy. He's not going to handle It's one

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<v Speaker 2>thing to you know, uh, you know the King David,

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<v Speaker 2>King David, he definitely had his right he was.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a bad parent, sure, you know, he indulged

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<v Speaker 3>the flesh, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Indulge the flesh. He all that. But can you remember

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<v Speaker 2>a single time in David's life where he did any

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<v Speaker 2>type of false worship? No idle worship, no, no, never ever? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So he strayed from behaviors, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, just like we talked, had bad days, but

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<v Speaker 3>his heart was chasing after God.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right, which is why you know God categorized him

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<v Speaker 2>and even spoke about him and said you were not

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, through his prophet said, you were not

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<v Speaker 2>like my father, your father David, who always did whatever

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted and always worshiped me. Right, So how does

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<v Speaker 2>he talk about David. He talks about David as this

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<v Speaker 2>man who always did all those things. He's not mentioning

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<v Speaker 2>David's little sins. He's not mentioning, you know, the bad

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<v Speaker 2>days or the big mistakes that David made in his life.

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<v Speaker 2>Because David overall tried his very best and this you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he didn't do it perfectly to worship God.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that the blasphemy part, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>there's just there's just a line that's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>drawn here, and so God says, that's it. And by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, what an unbelievable punishment. So C. S.

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<v Speaker 3>Lewis in the he wrote a book called The Problem

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<v Speaker 3>with Pain? Right? Do you ever read that one? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you read Mere Christianity?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So Mere Christianity is one of my favorite books.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, with as with any theologian, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>agree with every word every theologian writes, but I really

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<v Speaker 3>like his thinking in Mere Christianity. Well, then he wrote

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<v Speaker 3>a book talking about the problem of pain, and he

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<v Speaker 3>talks about the y what feels like the unjustness of pain.

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<v Speaker 3>Life is already hard and then pain comes along whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>And in it he makes that famous statement and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't remember the beginning of it. I don't remember exactly,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'll summarize the beginning of it, but then the

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<v Speaker 3>ending is consistent. He basically says that God whispers to

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<v Speaker 3>us and our pleasures and in the good moments of life,

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<v Speaker 3>but he shouts at us in our pain. And so

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes it's those painful moments, those difficult confrontations as king

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<v Speaker 3>you know this. You're a powerful person, You're an influential person.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he whispers in our pleasures?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he whispers and our pleasures, yep, And he shouts

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<v Speaker 3>to us in our pain. But you're a leader, you

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<v Speaker 3>have influence, you have a certain amount of power over

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<v Speaker 3>some people. One of the more difficult things, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the more painful things for an influential leader, is to

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<v Speaker 3>be confronted. Right, That's a hard thing to be confronted

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<v Speaker 3>and go, okay, I've got to make some changes. And

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<v Speaker 3>so God gave him that opportunity, that pain that came

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<v Speaker 3>from that that prophet, that man of God should have

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<v Speaker 3>been enough. Right, Hey, look at I cracked your your

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<v Speaker 3>alter You're exposed. This is fake and I'm the real God,

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<v Speaker 3>right right? And I froze your hand. I proved that

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<v Speaker 3>I humbled you. You had to ask for my help,

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<v Speaker 3>and then finally I took care of you, and you

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<v Speaker 3>continue to rebel against me. And by the way I

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<v Speaker 3>do this publicly, yes, you're embarrassed. Everybody knows, yes, right,

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<v Speaker 3>that your gods are faults and that I'm the real God.

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<v Speaker 3>So God shouts to us in our pain, and then

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes we don't listen, and when we don't listen, everything

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<v Speaker 3>falls down around Everything burns down around us. But when

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<v Speaker 3>God is shouting to us and in our initial pain,

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<v Speaker 3>we have a choice either run to him or from him.

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<v Speaker 3>I was talking with a family who's going through some

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<v Speaker 3>sad things right now, and I said, you know, all

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<v Speaker 3>the young people in the room, I said, listen, in

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<v Speaker 3>this moment, you have an opportunity to blame God or

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<v Speaker 3>run to God. Right those are your only two choices.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you're in the middle of pain, in your pain,

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<v Speaker 3>you either run to Him or from him. And God

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<v Speaker 3>says he is near to the broken hearted. He says,

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<v Speaker 3>cast all your cares on me because I care for you.

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<v Speaker 3>You can trust God with your pain. And it's not

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<v Speaker 3>always that God's causing the pain, but God will use

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<v Speaker 3>pain to get your attention, put you back. So when

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<v Speaker 3>you run to him, then this is that where he

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<v Speaker 3>offers this life of blessing or cursing. He's offering life

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<v Speaker 3>or death. And so when you run to God, he

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<v Speaker 3>will give you the good side of that. So he promises.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the promise Jerobom always had, and he just

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<v Speaker 3>threw it away. And then God tried to rattle his

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<v Speaker 3>cage a little bit with a little bit of shame

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<v Speaker 3>and embarrassment and pain. He didn't turn as God goes, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this is going to hurt, and it did.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So God's justice has poured out on him publicly. And

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<v Speaker 3>the reason why God's pouring out is justice publicly on

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<v Speaker 3>this king is because this king's whole life is public.

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<v Speaker 3>He is the representative of the nation. God's not pouring

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<v Speaker 3>out this kind of justice on you know, some little

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<v Speaker 3>widow lady living down the street. It's on the king,

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<v Speaker 3>who's the representative of all the people. Right, and you

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<v Speaker 3>had all the benefits of being the king. Now you

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<v Speaker 3>have the consequence of being the king. And He's trying

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<v Speaker 3>now through the pain of the king, to get the

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<v Speaker 3>attention of the rest of the people. Now you and

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<v Speaker 3>I know, they don't turn back to God either, so

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<v Speaker 3>there's a problem here.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, all right. Well, hey, that's our time

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<v Speaker 2>for today and so we will see you next time

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<v Speaker 2>as we pick up tomorrow on the Bible Gush