1 00:00:26,385 --> 00:00:30,685 Hello, hello, hello and welcome back to Leafs late night. 2 00:00:30,685 --> 00:00:34,325 Where it's never too late for the Leafs. 3 00:00:34,325 --> 00:00:39,605 Though it might be a little late for Ridley Grigg to save any face with Leaf 4 00:00:39,605 --> 00:00:42,755 fans, but that is coming up later. 5 00:00:42,755 --> 00:00:44,905 So stay tuned for our breakdown of that. 6 00:00:44,905 --> 00:00:48,125 Obviously, we got to talk about it. 7 00:00:48,625 --> 00:00:50,865 As always, we were presented by Inside the Rink. 8 00:00:50,865 --> 00:00:52,525 Roscoe joined by Beener. 9 00:00:52,525 --> 00:00:53,732 How's it going, buddy? 10 00:00:53,732 --> 00:00:54,462 It's gone. 11 00:00:54,462 --> 00:00:55,452 How about you? 12 00:00:55,793 --> 00:00:59,673 Oh good, I like the black and white stripes you got going. 13 00:01:00,113 --> 00:01:01,260 You playing a part? 14 00:01:01,260 --> 00:01:05,820 anybody can be a ref, anybody can, you know, run a department of player safety. 15 00:01:05,820 --> 00:01:07,420 So why not play the part? 16 00:01:08,649 --> 00:01:12,769 Ohhhh 17 00:01:15,945 --> 00:01:17,405 Good way to start. 18 00:01:17,745 --> 00:01:18,545 Wow. 19 00:01:18,545 --> 00:01:19,845 Wow, wow, wow. 20 00:01:19,845 --> 00:01:25,585 So, I mean, anybody who's been listening is no stranger to our lack of confidence 21 00:01:25,585 --> 00:01:26,715 in the depth of this team. 22 00:01:26,715 --> 00:01:30,145 I mean, it's been pretty obvious who's run in the show the last couple of weeks. 23 00:01:30,145 --> 00:01:33,905 I mean, all the goals have been coming from the same core of people you expect 24 00:01:33,905 --> 00:01:34,665 them to come from. 25 00:01:34,665 --> 00:01:38,855 But I mean, you don't want 100 percent of the points coming from there. 26 00:01:38,855 --> 00:01:40,945 And that's kind of what it's been lately. 27 00:01:40,945 --> 00:01:44,777 And when they have an off night all at the same time, oh, 28 00:01:44,777 --> 00:01:46,585 This team does not look very good. 29 00:01:48,100 --> 00:01:49,948 Yeah, um... 30 00:01:51,620 --> 00:01:53,920 It's tough to watch, right? 31 00:01:54,020 --> 00:01:58,240 Like, the big boys have been playing actually really well for a good chunk of 32 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:03,370 the year, and then we haven't had the depth scoring that we thought we were 33 00:02:03,370 --> 00:02:04,334 gonna have. 34 00:02:05,865 --> 00:02:10,465 I actually, I pulled up a little list here on Cap Friendly, shout out, and I put the 35 00:02:10,465 --> 00:02:14,665 search parameters to players making between four and a half and six and a half 36 00:02:14,665 --> 00:02:15,525 million dollars. 37 00:02:15,525 --> 00:02:19,205 And I want you to guess where Tyler Brattuzzi lands on that list. 38 00:02:19,205 --> 00:02:20,565 What number? 39 00:02:21,345 --> 00:02:23,277 Out of a hundred. 40 00:02:23,652 --> 00:02:25,072 Out of a hundred? 41 00:02:25,577 --> 00:02:33,577 I think oops didn't mean to hit that little premature jump the gun on that one 42 00:02:33,577 --> 00:02:39,397 sorry excited about my new button here let me see sorry there's a hundred and twenty 43 00:02:39,397 --> 00:02:44,368 four players making between four and a half and six and a half she said 95th 44 00:02:44,368 --> 00:02:46,168 that case 115. 45 00:02:47,401 --> 00:02:48,821 Okay, he's not quite that bad. 46 00:02:48,821 --> 00:02:55,631 He ranks at 77th, just between Riley Smith and Jason Zucker at 21 points between the 47 00:02:55,631 --> 00:02:56,841 group of them. 48 00:02:56,901 --> 00:03:00,343 Leading that group, can you take a guess? 49 00:03:01,572 --> 00:03:04,202 And what was the price, the contract range again? 50 00:03:04,457 --> 00:03:06,116 4 .5 to 6 .5. 51 00:03:06,116 --> 00:03:08,436 4 .5 to 6 .5. 52 00:03:08,596 --> 00:03:12,566 The first two contracts that popped into my head, they're both out of those deals 53 00:03:12,566 --> 00:03:12,976 right now. 54 00:03:12,976 --> 00:03:15,126 That was McKinnon and Pasternak's. 55 00:03:15,126 --> 00:03:17,356 They were both on crazy good deals. 56 00:03:18,416 --> 00:03:21,376 4 .5 to 6 .5. 57 00:03:21,836 --> 00:03:24,966 It's gonna be someone that I'm gonna slap myself for not saying, but I can't say 58 00:03:24,966 --> 00:03:25,769 goth up my head. 59 00:03:25,769 --> 00:03:27,748 Oh, somebody, Steph is screaming and I know. 60 00:03:27,748 --> 00:03:29,660 Heheheheh 61 00:03:32,777 --> 00:03:33,917 Okay, it's Mr. 62 00:03:33,917 --> 00:03:36,317 Sam Reinhart, six and a half million dollars. 63 00:03:36,317 --> 00:03:40,607 On the dot, he's the highest earner here, him and Chris Kreider, number one and 64 00:03:40,607 --> 00:03:43,107 three, both making six and a half, Jake Gensel in second. 65 00:03:43,107 --> 00:03:46,497 So 64 points for Sam Reinhart. 66 00:03:46,597 --> 00:03:51,047 The reason I pulled this list up was just to kind of see where our dollar value 67 00:03:51,047 --> 00:03:53,957 lands, because I mean, we've been ripping on Bertuzzi a lot for underperforming, but 68 00:03:53,957 --> 00:03:57,397 I just want to see across the league for people paying that much, you know, where 69 00:03:57,397 --> 00:03:58,277 does it land? 70 00:03:58,277 --> 00:04:02,217 And at 126 people, 77, it's just under. 71 00:04:02,217 --> 00:04:03,277 the middle. 72 00:04:03,277 --> 00:04:07,357 So I mean, not great, but there are a lot of guys that are underperforming a lot 73 00:04:07,357 --> 00:04:10,197 more or performing worse, underperforming better. 74 00:04:10,197 --> 00:04:11,417 I don't know how to say that. 75 00:04:11,417 --> 00:04:13,917 Josh Anderson sucks is what I'm trying to say. 76 00:04:14,337 --> 00:04:18,847 It's making a lot of money to score fucking six points this season or whatever 77 00:04:18,847 --> 00:04:19,657 it is. 78 00:04:19,657 --> 00:04:23,067 So, I mean, yeah, to bring it back. 79 00:04:23,067 --> 00:04:24,307 The depth hasn't been there. 80 00:04:24,307 --> 00:04:26,707 And unfortunately, the money is spent on it isn't paying off. 81 00:04:26,707 --> 00:04:30,837 So that's why this trade deadline is going to be interesting, because where the Leafs 82 00:04:30,837 --> 00:04:31,667 currently sit, 83 00:04:31,667 --> 00:04:35,187 You know, when you drop three of four games to Ottawa that you shouldn't, that 84 00:04:35,187 --> 00:04:37,757 drops you down to fourth in the Atlantic under Tampa. 85 00:04:37,757 --> 00:04:42,117 And if we look at the wild card race, we are in the first wild card spot sharing 86 00:04:42,117 --> 00:04:44,517 that at 60 points with the Detroit Red Wings. 87 00:04:44,517 --> 00:04:47,357 That is not where the Leafs want to be right now. 88 00:04:48,197 --> 00:04:49,297 So. 89 00:04:49,777 --> 00:04:51,797 Trade deadline, what the. 90 00:04:52,117 --> 00:04:53,397 What the fuck do you do? 91 00:04:53,397 --> 00:04:55,747 Like, there's nothing to buy with. 92 00:04:55,747 --> 00:04:56,977 You've got no chips. 93 00:04:56,977 --> 00:04:59,157 They don't want to trade cow and they don't want to trade mitten. 94 00:04:59,157 --> 00:05:00,853 I'm glad. 95 00:05:00,937 --> 00:05:04,717 But I mean, that doesn't leave much to send out the door to help this team, nor 96 00:05:04,717 --> 00:05:08,137 does this team seem like anything on the market can help them. 97 00:05:08,137 --> 00:05:11,537 Like, I don't know, do you just, do you punt on this year at this point? 98 00:05:11,537 --> 00:05:14,577 Like, I know it's February 12th, there's still quite a bit of runway left. 99 00:05:14,577 --> 00:05:17,217 We've seen a lot of teams turn things around quicker. 100 00:05:17,237 --> 00:05:23,307 But I mean, with how little there is available to do and how much competition 101 00:05:23,307 --> 00:05:28,417 has started to spend and run away with it, like, I'm starting to get the feeling that 102 00:05:28,417 --> 00:05:30,787 maybe you just punt on this one. 103 00:05:31,049 --> 00:05:33,619 Like Brad took over in a really weird time. 104 00:05:33,619 --> 00:05:35,109 It was in the middle of the draft. 105 00:05:35,109 --> 00:05:36,909 He didn't really get to make all the moves. 106 00:05:36,909 --> 00:05:40,429 A lot of people were off the board trade wise and there wasn't a lot available. 107 00:05:40,429 --> 00:05:43,443 Like I just, I don't think he got to do everything he wanted to. 108 00:05:43,844 --> 00:05:52,084 So at first I want to say that you don't punt a year away when you have players 109 00:05:52,084 --> 00:05:53,424 that we have. 110 00:05:53,564 --> 00:05:58,204 Like, okay, if Matthews Marner and Nylander were all off with injuries done 111 00:05:58,204 --> 00:06:00,864 for the season, yeah, absolutely, you punt the year away. 112 00:06:01,704 --> 00:06:03,454 They're all healthy, they're all still here. 113 00:06:03,454 --> 00:06:04,700 We can't do that. 114 00:06:05,097 --> 00:06:09,247 I guess by punting, I mean, like, don't spend what little you have on trying to 115 00:06:09,247 --> 00:06:09,817 bolster this. 116 00:06:09,817 --> 00:06:12,437 Like, I think what you have is what you have this season. 117 00:06:12,437 --> 00:06:14,797 Like, you hope that Woll comes back. 118 00:06:14,797 --> 00:06:17,667 You hope that, you know, a couple of the guys start clicking a little better. 119 00:06:17,667 --> 00:06:20,097 Maybe Bertuzzi turns it around in the playoffs. 120 00:06:20,257 --> 00:06:24,580 But like, really, it's I don't think you spend anything on this year. 121 00:06:24,580 --> 00:06:31,240 Well that's another thing too, is that everybody hasn't fully lived up to what we 122 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,080 know they're capable of. 123 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,740 Brutusy, Domi, like, and it's not like they're playing bad. 124 00:06:36,740 --> 00:06:38,050 We've said this multiple times. 125 00:06:38,050 --> 00:06:40,316 It's not like they're out there just... 126 00:06:40,473 --> 00:06:42,873 given 150 % every night. 127 00:06:42,993 --> 00:06:44,476 You just can't fucking score. 128 00:06:44,476 --> 00:06:46,236 They just can't do it. 129 00:06:46,396 --> 00:06:52,716 Like, so if they weren't giving the effort, I would be a lot more concerned. 130 00:06:52,816 --> 00:06:53,846 It sounds silly. 131 00:06:53,846 --> 00:06:58,916 It sounds like I'm looking at everything with my leaf glasses on, but there is a 132 00:06:58,916 --> 00:07:04,356 possibility for this to change very quickly without doing a damn thing. 133 00:07:04,596 --> 00:07:10,256 That being said, none of us expected a single thing that Tree Living did this 134 00:07:10,256 --> 00:07:10,856 summer. 135 00:07:10,856 --> 00:07:12,002 Like none of us. 136 00:07:12,649 --> 00:07:17,229 Yeah, but to be fair, like none of the things he did have really been the 137 00:07:17,229 --> 00:07:18,909 difference makers this year. 138 00:07:18,909 --> 00:07:19,940 Like. 139 00:07:19,940 --> 00:07:25,730 But, like how many times have I said over the last handful of episodes, this is 140 00:07:25,730 --> 00:07:28,340 everything that Keef didn't get before. 141 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:34,260 He always got the cardio kids that, you know, skate, skate, skate, can't bury. 142 00:07:34,260 --> 00:07:37,744 Now he's gotten a little grit and he can't still do anything differently. 143 00:07:39,305 --> 00:07:41,845 So you're turning this around on it doesn't matter. 144 00:07:41,845 --> 00:07:44,785 I guess you're trying to give Keith what he asked for to show that it doesn't 145 00:07:44,785 --> 00:07:47,145 matter, that that's not the problem. 146 00:07:47,145 --> 00:07:47,979 Like. 147 00:07:48,900 --> 00:07:54,300 Like, and yet again, I don't want to advocate for someone losing their job, but 148 00:07:54,300 --> 00:07:57,060 we've got a pattern here. 149 00:07:57,380 --> 00:07:59,720 Like we really, really do. 150 00:07:59,980 --> 00:08:04,100 That, that, that it, a lot of the times it seems like this team doesn't have the 151 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:08,268 structure to play games properly. 152 00:08:09,001 --> 00:08:12,841 Okay, just to give a little credit to Keith here, some of the guys that were 153 00:08:12,841 --> 00:08:17,141 brought in, I'm looking at points and just if you're looking for the new guys on the 154 00:08:17,141 --> 00:08:20,201 team, just go to the Leafs stats and hit points and search by lowest and they're 155 00:08:20,201 --> 00:08:22,281 the bottom six guys basically. 156 00:08:22,581 --> 00:08:25,161 So aside from Bertuzzi and Domi. 157 00:08:25,381 --> 00:08:30,031 So I mean, you've got LeJoy obviously is a new guy here, zero points, only played 158 00:08:30,031 --> 00:08:30,581 four games. 159 00:08:30,581 --> 00:08:35,361 Ryan Reeves, 25 games played, two goals, minus 12, 20 penalty minutes. 160 00:08:35,361 --> 00:08:37,181 We've got him for another two years. 161 00:08:37,181 --> 00:08:38,601 That's something that... 162 00:08:38,601 --> 00:08:45,801 Like to Trey and Keith's credit, he was still kind of there last year and has been 163 00:08:45,801 --> 00:08:47,841 quite sought after the last couple of seasons. 164 00:08:47,841 --> 00:08:51,021 And I think we just got like the end of the pie. 165 00:08:51,021 --> 00:08:54,121 Like there was nothing left of him by the time we got him. 166 00:08:54,841 --> 00:08:55,424 Which. 167 00:08:55,424 --> 00:08:59,094 have any way to defend that signing because I do not like that signing 168 00:08:59,094 --> 00:09:00,058 whatsoever. 169 00:09:00,329 --> 00:09:02,409 Three years is insanely long. 170 00:09:02,409 --> 00:09:03,609 Benoit, been great. 171 00:09:03,609 --> 00:09:05,709 Goal in an assist in 36 games, cool. 172 00:09:05,709 --> 00:09:07,859 Two points, but that's two more than he needs. 173 00:09:07,859 --> 00:09:09,549 We would have signed him at zero points. 174 00:09:09,549 --> 00:09:10,599 Laggason, same deal. 175 00:09:10,599 --> 00:09:11,629 I don't need to see much of him. 176 00:09:11,629 --> 00:09:13,269 Then we get John Klingberg. 177 00:09:13,269 --> 00:09:14,019 14 games. 178 00:09:14,019 --> 00:09:15,609 He's got five points. 179 00:09:16,149 --> 00:09:19,459 Anybody who's following, John Klingberg still has more points than Ryan Reeves. 180 00:09:19,459 --> 00:09:22,589 He has three more points than him in half the games. 181 00:09:22,709 --> 00:09:26,049 And he only has one less point than Geo, who we just found out is hurt. 182 00:09:26,049 --> 00:09:27,389 And so was Connor Timmons. 183 00:09:27,389 --> 00:09:29,801 So this entire bottom here, like you can... 184 00:09:29,801 --> 00:09:34,511 put a giant fucking cross through this except for Simon Benoit for none of this 185 00:09:34,511 --> 00:09:35,601 is usable. 186 00:09:36,561 --> 00:09:38,475 Like what are we doing? 187 00:09:38,628 --> 00:09:44,078 But go back to every season previously and you'd have four or five different signings 188 00:09:44,078 --> 00:09:47,578 or call -ups or draft picks or whatever from Dubus. 189 00:09:47,578 --> 00:09:49,040 It was the same thing. 190 00:09:49,577 --> 00:09:59,037 So I don't know, I guess the point here is like, unless you move somebody like one of 191 00:09:59,037 --> 00:10:04,137 the defensemen who's not working out for somebody that has term, like you're making 192 00:10:04,137 --> 00:10:08,057 an improvement for this team for the next two, three years, that I can get behind, 193 00:10:08,057 --> 00:10:10,467 but there's not much you can sell. 194 00:10:10,467 --> 00:10:13,157 So I don't see many teams that'll swing on that. 195 00:10:13,157 --> 00:10:18,357 Unless Robertson and Nyes and Bertuzzi all kind of finally figure out what they 196 00:10:18,357 --> 00:10:19,337 should have. 197 00:10:19,337 --> 00:10:21,157 a month and a half ago. 198 00:10:21,317 --> 00:10:25,357 I mean, nice has gotten better, but I just don't think he's at. 199 00:10:25,357 --> 00:10:28,497 I mean, I guess he's at the level that he should be at his age, but not where they 200 00:10:28,497 --> 00:10:32,237 need him to be for the team at this stage right now. 201 00:10:32,317 --> 00:10:34,081 But you can't trade him. 202 00:10:34,396 --> 00:10:39,876 level where he should be for his development, but you need to start giving 203 00:10:39,876 --> 00:10:40,956 him a little bit of rest. 204 00:10:40,956 --> 00:10:44,236 I'm not saying load manage him or anything like that. 205 00:10:44,236 --> 00:10:46,356 Just, okay, you want him on the top line. 206 00:10:46,356 --> 00:10:50,056 Don't play him the full 25 minutes that you're playing Matthews and Marner. 207 00:10:50,156 --> 00:10:52,357 Like this past game against... 208 00:10:52,357 --> 00:10:53,157 you put there? 209 00:10:53,157 --> 00:10:56,757 Like that's what I'm saying is he's playing to his development level, but he 210 00:10:56,757 --> 00:11:00,811 he's filling a role that he can't fill 82 games. 211 00:11:01,252 --> 00:11:06,882 while Nicky Bobby has been playing on average what four minutes a night when he 212 00:11:06,882 --> 00:11:12,782 plays like the guy's scoring and he gets no ice time spread it out more like this 213 00:11:12,782 --> 00:11:17,412 past game was the first game I think in probably four or five games that he got 214 00:11:17,412 --> 00:11:18,752 over 10 minutes. 215 00:11:18,921 --> 00:11:24,337 Yeah, he's averaging 11 right now, but that puts him like behind Noah Greger. 216 00:11:24,612 --> 00:11:26,890 and he had 14 minutes his pass game. 217 00:11:28,041 --> 00:11:33,171 Yeah, they're really not playing Robertson So if you can and I guess this is this 218 00:11:33,171 --> 00:11:36,121 comes down to Keith and who he's gonna play but like there's a couple guys that 219 00:11:36,121 --> 00:11:40,251 if they can figure it out sure you have a shot but like I just really I'm not I'm 220 00:11:40,251 --> 00:11:43,971 trying I guess internally not to get my hopes up that like this is a year where 221 00:11:43,971 --> 00:11:47,741 I'm expecting a run out of this team if Anything happens it's gonna be because 222 00:11:47,741 --> 00:11:51,751 these guys go playoff mode and it's the opposite of what we've seen in the last 223 00:11:51,751 --> 00:11:53,737 couple years We're like, oh 224 00:11:53,737 --> 00:11:56,237 This is a steamroller through the regular season. 225 00:11:56,237 --> 00:11:58,257 They have to be able to continue this into the playoffs. 226 00:11:58,257 --> 00:11:59,677 And it's just not been the case. 227 00:11:59,677 --> 00:12:02,597 So unless the opposite happens this year, like I'm just I don't know. 228 00:12:02,597 --> 00:12:04,717 I guess I'm just not getting my hopes up. 229 00:12:04,877 --> 00:12:07,557 Not to be negative, I just I don't know. 230 00:12:07,937 --> 00:12:09,833 Not every year is the year. 231 00:12:09,956 --> 00:12:14,046 No, but every year you should have the optimism that every year could be the 232 00:12:14,046 --> 00:12:14,176 year. 233 00:12:14,176 --> 00:12:16,284 Like that's the whole point of fandom, right? 234 00:12:16,393 --> 00:12:19,603 Yeah, I mean, I'll get behind Matthews potentially and probably winning the 235 00:12:19,603 --> 00:12:20,013 rocket. 236 00:12:20,013 --> 00:12:20,643 Knock on wood. 237 00:12:20,643 --> 00:12:23,593 Like there's things to be excited about this year. 238 00:12:23,973 --> 00:12:28,653 The fact that we've gotten over the first round hump, I think I've put less pressure 239 00:12:28,653 --> 00:12:33,323 on my own expectations every year to like, guys, you have to do this or I'm going to 240 00:12:33,323 --> 00:12:34,553 break something. 241 00:12:35,553 --> 00:12:42,273 I feel like just ripping that bandaid off kind of lets me breathe a little bit and 242 00:12:42,273 --> 00:12:45,557 not see every playoff as like make or break. 243 00:12:45,796 --> 00:12:49,556 Like, what is one of the things we were saying about the Oilers at the beginning 244 00:12:49,556 --> 00:12:50,636 of the season? 245 00:12:51,356 --> 00:12:52,045 Was that... 246 00:12:52,045 --> 00:12:52,545 the oilers. 247 00:12:52,545 --> 00:12:54,580 They can turn it around at any point. 248 00:12:54,580 --> 00:13:00,454 that you take McDavid and you take Dry Cytl away and they're a lot of mid, right? 249 00:13:02,089 --> 00:13:04,062 Yeah, um, yeah. 250 00:13:04,062 --> 00:13:06,312 a little higher, but some are a little lower. 251 00:13:06,312 --> 00:13:08,672 There's a lot of mid there. 252 00:13:08,792 --> 00:13:10,452 Look at the Leafs. 253 00:13:10,692 --> 00:13:16,172 Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares is still better than a lot of the NHL. 254 00:13:16,512 --> 00:13:19,172 Right, like there's a lot of talent there. 255 00:13:19,572 --> 00:13:24,192 And the rest of it, like take our Leafs glasses away. 256 00:13:24,292 --> 00:13:28,272 The rest, we definitely do. 257 00:13:30,564 --> 00:13:33,724 Like there's players with potential, Nice has great potential, Robertson still has 258 00:13:33,724 --> 00:13:39,044 great potential, but at this point in time, there's a lot of mid right there. 259 00:13:39,344 --> 00:13:41,904 Well look what the Oilers have been doing. 260 00:13:42,244 --> 00:13:45,984 It's the same goddamn roster, all they did was add Corey Perry. 261 00:13:47,689 --> 00:13:52,219 I mean, yes, but there's also the the asterix that their goaltending was 262 00:13:52,219 --> 00:13:54,329 absolutely abysmal. 263 00:13:54,329 --> 00:13:58,029 Like Jack Campbell turned into a non playable starting goalie and Skinner was 264 00:13:58,029 --> 00:13:59,009 no better. 265 00:13:59,009 --> 00:14:04,659 And Skinner randomly and and and Skinner randomly just went, oh, if I'm the only 266 00:14:04,659 --> 00:14:06,909 guy, I guess I have to do it and figured it out. 267 00:14:06,909 --> 00:14:08,484 And now he's completely usable. 268 00:14:08,484 --> 00:14:10,780 whole team started to play better defensively. 269 00:14:11,465 --> 00:14:13,685 Yeah, definitely things change under the coach. 270 00:14:13,685 --> 00:14:19,465 But I think like you can't attribute Skinner's play to just a coaching change. 271 00:14:19,465 --> 00:14:26,285 I I guess, but fuck, man, that's that's a lot of that's a lot to put on one guy just 272 00:14:26,285 --> 00:14:28,650 because he's McDavid's junior coach like. 273 00:14:28,650 --> 00:14:32,110 yeah, but he - Skinner was playing poorly, but he was also facing a ton of high 274 00:14:32,110 --> 00:14:33,666 danger chances against. 275 00:14:34,429 --> 00:14:35,268 Yeah. 276 00:14:35,268 --> 00:14:39,748 Like if you limit shots, like I can stop shots from the blue line. 277 00:14:40,768 --> 00:14:45,058 You put shots down right in the slot with someone who's been shooting 200 pucks a 278 00:14:45,058 --> 00:14:46,168 day for 20 years. 279 00:14:46,168 --> 00:14:47,822 Yeah, I'm not going to stop that. 280 00:14:48,361 --> 00:14:50,481 But I mean, you saw some of these goals they were letting in. 281 00:14:50,481 --> 00:14:53,861 It wasn't like it was high danger stuff, like him and Jack were letting in beach 282 00:14:53,861 --> 00:14:54,458 balls. 283 00:14:54,458 --> 00:14:58,188 -hmm, but when you have absolutely no confidence because all you're seeing is 284 00:14:58,188 --> 00:15:00,768 shot after shot because your team doesn't give a shit They're not playing any 285 00:15:00,768 --> 00:15:05,938 defense Like I'm not saying that's all of it But they do go hand in hand good 286 00:15:05,938 --> 00:15:07,698 coaching and good goal -tending show me a good coach. 287 00:15:07,698 --> 00:15:09,212 I'll show you a good goalie 288 00:15:09,961 --> 00:15:13,521 Okay, so let's bring that back around to the Leafs. 289 00:15:13,521 --> 00:15:16,141 Sammy has been... 290 00:15:16,141 --> 00:15:20,791 back, but the last two games are the first time since he's been back that I've seen 291 00:15:20,791 --> 00:15:25,231 him look around behind him multiple times to see where the post is, and that shit 292 00:15:25,231 --> 00:15:26,337 freaks me out. 293 00:15:26,500 --> 00:15:33,000 Yeah, so before the All -Star break, he looked a lot more calm and that he didn't 294 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,840 have to constantly search for where he is. 295 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,560 He wasn't swimming as much. 296 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,080 Like he wasn't doing any unnecessary movements. 297 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,680 And that's a big change for Sammy, especially over the last six, seven 298 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:44,600 months. 299 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:49,640 But the last two times we've seen him play. 300 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,800 Yeah, I think he's played two. 301 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,520 Yeah, it was Jones in Ottawa. 302 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:54,806 Like. 303 00:15:55,076 --> 00:15:57,416 he's starting to kind of revert back a little bit. 304 00:15:57,416 --> 00:16:04,476 So whatever he did when he had that little like break before the All -Star break, he 305 00:16:04,476 --> 00:16:08,566 kind of needs to get back to that and get himself back in the right headspace 306 00:16:08,566 --> 00:16:11,456 because physically we know he's a good goalie. 307 00:16:11,536 --> 00:16:12,946 We know he can do it. 308 00:16:12,946 --> 00:16:17,256 He's proven he can do it, but he just has to get in the right headspace for that 309 00:16:17,256 --> 00:16:20,776 because like goaltending is ridiculously mental. 310 00:16:21,705 --> 00:16:24,935 Well, yeah, and clearly they noticed it if they put Jones in against the sense now 311 00:16:24,935 --> 00:16:28,545 that I go back to those, you know, reset where my mind's at here. 312 00:16:28,545 --> 00:16:30,105 But yeah, so obviously they saw it. 313 00:16:30,105 --> 00:16:35,545 They switched into Jones, but it's like, again, this just shows how fragile this 314 00:16:35,545 --> 00:16:40,265 tandem is, especially like even if wool comes back, like it's not set in stone 315 00:16:40,265 --> 00:16:43,205 that he's going to be great, especially after all the time he's missed. 316 00:16:43,205 --> 00:16:48,785 So, you know, again, it's just another question mark that I don't know if a trade 317 00:16:48,785 --> 00:16:50,385 like a simple trader, 318 00:16:50,793 --> 00:16:55,433 you know, something not so simple like a coaching change is going to fix this year. 319 00:16:56,233 --> 00:17:01,572 Like, it's I see like it's you got a surgery on this roster at this point. 320 00:17:01,572 --> 00:17:03,052 Well, yes and no. 321 00:17:03,052 --> 00:17:04,292 Like, they're all hockey players. 322 00:17:04,292 --> 00:17:08,792 They've all, they all can play the game and they've played many different 323 00:17:08,792 --> 00:17:11,172 structures over their entire careers. 324 00:17:11,172 --> 00:17:13,812 You just need to get everybody committed. 325 00:17:14,232 --> 00:17:16,792 And Keefe is not getting everybody committed. 326 00:17:16,852 --> 00:17:21,252 The last two, three, four years, they've actually played a really good team defense 327 00:17:21,252 --> 00:17:23,722 game, but they're not doing that this year. 328 00:17:23,722 --> 00:17:25,596 They've got away from it completely. 329 00:17:27,876 --> 00:17:29,645 Like, they have the... 330 00:17:29,645 --> 00:17:32,305 side, they've got defensemen that are playing better. 331 00:17:32,305 --> 00:17:35,925 Like, I mean, we've got Riley having a much better season than the last two. 332 00:17:35,925 --> 00:17:40,935 And I think, you know, the emergence of guys like Benoit and I don't know, I guess 333 00:17:40,935 --> 00:17:42,085 just Benoit at this point. 334 00:17:42,085 --> 00:17:44,385 McCabe's been better, too. 335 00:17:44,625 --> 00:17:46,665 Somebody that's going to be sticking around. 336 00:17:46,665 --> 00:17:52,225 But I think you also see another year on Geo and another year on Brody. 337 00:17:52,265 --> 00:17:52,558 So. 338 00:17:52,558 --> 00:17:58,978 what I was just going to say is the fact that we're seeing some aspects of the 339 00:17:58,978 --> 00:18:02,228 Leafs defense that is actually working really well. 340 00:18:02,228 --> 00:18:04,848 Like Benoit, McCabe's been playing a lot better. 341 00:18:04,848 --> 00:18:09,108 Playoff Riley has been here all season, which has been incredible. 342 00:18:09,288 --> 00:18:14,448 And we're doing all this with our best defensive defenseman over the last, what, 343 00:18:14,448 --> 00:18:15,788 four years? 344 00:18:15,788 --> 00:18:17,898 Isn't playing great with Brody. 345 00:18:18,281 --> 00:18:19,241 Yeah. 346 00:18:19,281 --> 00:18:21,661 And guess who we didn't mention in all of this? 347 00:18:22,101 --> 00:18:28,621 Timothy Lilligrin, who unfortunately, here we are in February of 2024. 348 00:18:28,981 --> 00:18:31,801 I mean, look, it was a long road with him and Sandeen. 349 00:18:31,801 --> 00:18:36,611 We had high hopes for both of them and rolled the dice and picked Lilligrin and 350 00:18:36,611 --> 00:18:37,961 shipped Sandeen off to Washington. 351 00:18:37,961 --> 00:18:38,741 And here we are. 352 00:18:38,741 --> 00:18:42,541 I don't think either of them are really what we thought they would be. 353 00:18:42,541 --> 00:18:46,169 I mean, Sandeen's obviously on a shit team in Washington right now, but. 354 00:18:46,633 --> 00:18:50,613 Like, I don't think Lilligran's getting any better than we've seen. 355 00:18:50,613 --> 00:18:53,583 Like, I think his best games have already happened. 356 00:18:53,583 --> 00:18:55,364 Like, this is as good as he gets. 357 00:18:55,364 --> 00:18:57,054 There's potential that he could get better. 358 00:18:57,054 --> 00:18:58,404 He'll never be a... 359 00:18:58,404 --> 00:19:01,764 like, from what we're seeing, he'll never be a top two defender. 360 00:19:02,057 --> 00:19:05,487 Well, I didn't think he'd be top two, but I don't think he's even going to be a top 361 00:19:05,487 --> 00:19:10,317 four, like unless something clicks or they get him a better partner and the team 362 00:19:10,317 --> 00:19:12,727 starts playing better defense and he's in better situations. 363 00:19:12,727 --> 00:19:16,457 Like it's going to take a lot because where they've got him and who and playing 364 00:19:16,457 --> 00:19:21,637 with Giorgiano all these nights, like on the bottom pair, like they're just not 365 00:19:21,637 --> 00:19:24,597 putting him in positions to develop properly in the NHL. 366 00:19:24,597 --> 00:19:26,917 And they're just kind of turning him into a sixth defenseman. 367 00:19:26,917 --> 00:19:28,877 And that's looking like what he's going to be. 368 00:19:29,444 --> 00:19:34,544 Yeah, all it takes is that one season for it to click for him with, like you said, 369 00:19:34,544 --> 00:19:39,274 either with a good partner or a better mindset of how he wants to do things. 370 00:19:39,274 --> 00:19:43,634 Like there's so many defensemen that coaches, general managers have just said, 371 00:19:43,634 --> 00:19:46,594 you know what, no, they're like, they're never going to be anything. 372 00:19:46,594 --> 00:19:48,384 And then they turned out to be great. 373 00:19:48,384 --> 00:19:51,464 Like there was doubts on Thomas Cabralet when he was drafted. 374 00:19:51,924 --> 00:19:55,558 He turns out to be one of the best defensemen on the Leafs for years. 375 00:19:55,753 --> 00:19:58,243 He probably should have been a winger, but you know. 376 00:19:59,228 --> 00:20:01,066 yeah, so should Eric Harrelson. 377 00:20:01,577 --> 00:20:02,357 Yeah. 378 00:20:02,357 --> 00:20:04,657 I'm not gonna deny that either. 379 00:20:05,892 --> 00:20:09,562 like I'm not trying to say he's gonna be amazing. 380 00:20:09,562 --> 00:20:10,752 I love Lily. 381 00:20:10,752 --> 00:20:13,442 There's that's been no secret I've always loved him him and same man. 382 00:20:13,442 --> 00:20:19,862 I loved both of them It just doesn't work for every player right and that happens 383 00:20:19,862 --> 00:20:26,522 that's part of the game But a lot can be said for how they're playing for how 384 00:20:26,522 --> 00:20:32,356 they're like a lot of times there is no structure some of the plays that 385 00:20:32,356 --> 00:20:36,136 when they're trying to leave the zone or when they're trying to even just cover 386 00:20:36,136 --> 00:20:37,416 defensively. 387 00:20:37,416 --> 00:20:39,116 It's like, what are you guys doing? 388 00:20:39,116 --> 00:20:41,089 There's so many lapses. 389 00:20:41,089 --> 00:20:45,439 many people out of place and like their stick is in the opposite lane of where the 390 00:20:45,439 --> 00:20:46,869 pass or the shot would go. 391 00:20:46,869 --> 00:20:49,229 They're like leaving guys open in front of the net. 392 00:20:49,229 --> 00:20:50,489 Two guys go after one guy. 393 00:20:50,489 --> 00:20:52,059 Like it's it's insane. 394 00:20:52,059 --> 00:20:55,076 The the the Peewee level defense that they've been playing. 395 00:20:55,076 --> 00:21:04,556 Oh, it's been crazy and like, yet again, I'm not trying to get anybody fired, but 396 00:21:04,556 --> 00:21:08,386 there's like, there's simple things that can be done to change it. 397 00:21:08,386 --> 00:21:11,326 And if you want to try to say, okay, it's just the players not doing what the coach 398 00:21:11,326 --> 00:21:13,516 wants, well then coach. 399 00:21:14,316 --> 00:21:18,696 Like if it's truly you're trying to instill a system and they're not doing it, 400 00:21:18,696 --> 00:21:21,076 then coach, bench them. 401 00:21:21,076 --> 00:21:22,156 Don't give them the ice time. 402 00:21:22,156 --> 00:21:23,588 You have no issues giving 403 00:21:23,588 --> 00:21:27,254 like not giving players ice time, just ask Robertson. 404 00:21:27,721 --> 00:21:31,621 Yeah, we've not seen a single player benched in a long time. 405 00:21:31,621 --> 00:21:37,001 David Camp, yeah, that's it, who pretty much didn't deserve it. 406 00:21:37,081 --> 00:21:40,041 And the penalty kill hurt for it. 407 00:21:40,261 --> 00:21:43,821 This is coming off of where we would see Justin Hall play a couple bad games and 408 00:21:43,821 --> 00:21:45,941 it's like, oh my God, sent it to the press box. 409 00:21:45,941 --> 00:21:47,401 And it would have a good effect. 410 00:21:47,401 --> 00:21:49,621 He would be like, oh shit, yeah, I was playing bad. 411 00:21:49,621 --> 00:21:50,911 I'm gonna work on a couple things, come back. 412 00:21:50,911 --> 00:21:53,141 He played great for a couple months. 413 00:21:53,615 --> 00:21:55,085 Regardless of how people talked about it. 414 00:21:55,085 --> 00:21:57,405 He would be good for a while out every time they scratched him. 415 00:21:57,405 --> 00:22:02,855 He was good after We have seen so many guys not get scratched literally just we 416 00:22:02,855 --> 00:22:05,537 switch them out for someone else and that is not the same 417 00:22:05,860 --> 00:22:07,920 No, it's not. 418 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:14,090 And like, I feel like I'm sounding like a broken record, but we've tried everything 419 00:22:14,090 --> 00:22:15,060 else. 420 00:22:16,233 --> 00:22:21,533 It's a co look, I I'm not discrediting that a lot of this is on Keith, but like 421 00:22:21,533 --> 00:22:24,373 I'm back to Lillagran for a sec. 422 00:22:24,373 --> 00:22:28,283 I'm not trying to discount that, you know, he hit his own ceiling. 423 00:22:28,283 --> 00:22:31,533 I think this team lowered his ceiling in the way that they handled it. 424 00:22:31,533 --> 00:22:33,593 And that comes down to management and coaching. 425 00:22:33,593 --> 00:22:39,493 Like if you don't find somebody to fill out like, OK, how do I put this? 426 00:22:39,493 --> 00:22:42,089 When you're looking at developing somebody, you have to. 427 00:22:42,089 --> 00:22:43,689 put them in a position to succeed. 428 00:22:43,689 --> 00:22:48,639 And if you see that your 40 year old defenseman is declining game by game, why 429 00:22:48,639 --> 00:22:51,569 would you put them with the person that you want to be on this team long term? 430 00:22:51,569 --> 00:22:56,309 And it's going to be here potentially past when Morgan Riley is here if things pan 431 00:22:56,309 --> 00:22:56,549 out. 432 00:22:56,549 --> 00:23:00,929 Like what, I don't understand the logic behind tanking them by sticking them on 433 00:23:00,929 --> 00:23:05,159 for, you know, seven, eight minutes a night with a guy who's not able to keep up 434 00:23:05,159 --> 00:23:07,691 with 85 % of the players on the ice anymore. 435 00:23:07,716 --> 00:23:08,516 Mm -hmm. 436 00:23:08,516 --> 00:23:15,346 You're trying to utilize his strengths to cover up another player's weaknesses when 437 00:23:15,346 --> 00:23:17,596 he's brand new in the NHL. 438 00:23:17,656 --> 00:23:18,300 And... 439 00:23:18,601 --> 00:23:22,341 It's like hiring a millennial to do some like, you know, a bunch of tech stuff at 440 00:23:22,341 --> 00:23:25,001 the company when no one else knew how to do it. 441 00:23:25,001 --> 00:23:27,341 And all of a sudden, they're doing six people's jobs. 442 00:23:27,341 --> 00:23:30,221 It's like this isn't a way to have a long term employee. 443 00:23:30,221 --> 00:23:31,961 And I think that's where they fumbled. 444 00:23:31,961 --> 00:23:33,227 Timothy Lowe. 445 00:23:33,764 --> 00:23:38,134 Yes, now it was working when they first tried it because Gio and Lillie actually 446 00:23:38,134 --> 00:23:43,014 looked great together when they first tried it, but you have to try to decide 447 00:23:43,014 --> 00:23:45,644 what type of player you want him to be. 448 00:23:46,344 --> 00:23:53,514 Like, Lillie's kind of, in my eyes, he's kind of more likely to be like a two -way 449 00:23:53,514 --> 00:23:54,484 defender. 450 00:23:54,904 --> 00:23:59,721 Like, not as defensive as Brody, but not as offensive as Riley, like, and... 451 00:23:59,721 --> 00:24:02,771 We've seen him take a couple shots from the blue line that have been, you know, 452 00:24:02,771 --> 00:24:05,221 gone through the crowd and tip off somebody to go in. 453 00:24:05,221 --> 00:24:08,306 Like, he's got a decent shot and he... 454 00:24:08,306 --> 00:24:12,036 cut up to the net and he'll have a great tip or a great little play in tight. 455 00:24:12,036 --> 00:24:13,896 Like he can do that. 456 00:24:14,576 --> 00:24:17,484 He just, he needs to find that good happy median. 457 00:24:19,657 --> 00:24:22,557 Yeah, I wish they tried about more on power play, too. 458 00:24:22,557 --> 00:24:26,977 I know there's been a couple times when he's gone out there, but like, I think 459 00:24:26,977 --> 00:24:31,527 that's really where you needed to try him out, especially after, you know, you lose 460 00:24:31,527 --> 00:24:37,497 Klingberg and you're kind of leaning the rest of the defense into being defensive. 461 00:24:38,037 --> 00:24:39,617 Like, why not? 462 00:24:40,677 --> 00:24:41,297 I know. 463 00:24:41,297 --> 00:24:44,899 OK, so while we're on defense, we got to talk about the. 464 00:24:45,193 --> 00:24:49,693 Big ol' elephant in the room, which is the end of the Senators game. 465 00:24:49,693 --> 00:24:51,523 Oh my good god. 466 00:24:51,523 --> 00:24:54,653 So I was hoping we'd have Souther here because he was actually at the game, but I 467 00:24:54,653 --> 00:24:56,433 think he might have passed out. 468 00:24:57,193 --> 00:24:58,433 So. 469 00:24:58,613 --> 00:25:04,273 Obviously, empty net, Leaves her down by one, Ridley Greig, as we've all seen, 470 00:25:04,273 --> 00:25:08,813 comes skating down right in front of the net, takes a big old clapper. 471 00:25:08,813 --> 00:25:12,913 And as he is skating around the boards with five seconds left, he is absolutely 472 00:25:12,913 --> 00:25:14,377 demolished. 473 00:25:14,377 --> 00:25:19,867 with a two -handed cross check to the side of the dome by our very own Morgan Reilly 474 00:25:19,867 --> 00:25:24,537 in the least Morgan Reilly way I've ever seen. 475 00:25:24,957 --> 00:25:28,717 This is the last guy I expected this from on the entire team. 476 00:25:28,717 --> 00:25:34,237 It goes to show that this mentality has indeed bled through all of them. 477 00:25:34,237 --> 00:25:38,427 They are all seeing red when things are not going their way, and that's kind of 478 00:25:38,427 --> 00:25:39,637 what we wanted. 479 00:25:39,737 --> 00:25:41,537 But what... 480 00:25:42,665 --> 00:25:45,485 What was your initial reaction when you saw this? 481 00:25:45,485 --> 00:25:48,905 Not like after everyone talking about it in the replays, like what was your initial 482 00:25:48,905 --> 00:25:49,909 reaction? 483 00:25:50,244 --> 00:25:57,914 So I'm kind of playing the role of Matt Barnaby on this one because I can see both 484 00:25:57,914 --> 00:25:59,364 sides of it and I like both sides of it. 485 00:25:59,364 --> 00:26:01,304 I am an agitator. 486 00:26:01,304 --> 00:26:07,124 So I would be Ridley Gregg winding up for a full out clapper on an empty net. 487 00:26:07,204 --> 00:26:10,724 Because that is something I would do just to try to rub it into the other team. 488 00:26:10,724 --> 00:26:14,344 Because when I'm on the ice, I'm quite an asshole. 489 00:26:15,984 --> 00:26:20,196 But then at the same time, if I saw someone doing that, like, 490 00:26:20,196 --> 00:26:23,676 as a goalie if I got pulled and I'm sitting on the bench because we pulled me 491 00:26:23,676 --> 00:26:25,756 to get an extra attacker, I saw that happen. 492 00:26:25,756 --> 00:26:29,076 I'd be skating off the bench to block him in the face. 493 00:26:29,096 --> 00:26:33,556 So like, I can see both sides of it. 494 00:26:34,036 --> 00:26:38,996 When I initially saw it as a Leaf fan from that aspect of it, I hated what he did. 495 00:26:38,996 --> 00:26:43,856 I loved the fact that Riley went right over there until I saw the stick go up. 496 00:26:44,016 --> 00:26:48,556 As soon as I saw the stick go up, I'm you freaking idiot with 497 00:26:48,556 --> 00:26:51,116 Paros in charge of player safety. 498 00:26:51,116 --> 00:26:53,830 This is probably going to be close to 10 games. 499 00:26:55,177 --> 00:26:56,997 Yeah, my guess was seven. 500 00:26:57,157 --> 00:26:57,560 And... 501 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:58,960 ridiculous. 502 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,540 He's got no history. 503 00:27:00,540 --> 00:27:02,680 It's just like the spezza thing, right? 504 00:27:03,060 --> 00:27:05,240 Like what should be a fine is not going to be. 505 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,690 Everybody all over Sirius XM, everybody, oh, they've got to make an example out of 506 00:27:08,690 --> 00:27:09,020 him. 507 00:27:09,020 --> 00:27:10,690 He deliberately went for the head. 508 00:27:10,690 --> 00:27:12,494 Okay, yeah, so did Perron. 509 00:27:13,673 --> 00:27:19,313 Yeah, there's been a lot of deliberate targeted intent to injure attacks this 510 00:27:19,313 --> 00:27:20,173 year. 511 00:27:20,333 --> 00:27:23,433 And I am in no way defending what Riley did. 512 00:27:23,433 --> 00:27:27,433 I'm what I'm saying is there is absolutely zero consistency in how these things have 513 00:27:27,433 --> 00:27:29,043 been punished this season, last season. 514 00:27:29,043 --> 00:27:30,273 And we all know this. 515 00:27:30,273 --> 00:27:35,863 So all we can go off of is the history with the Leafs in similar situations. 516 00:27:35,863 --> 00:27:37,993 And the closest thing we have is Jason Spezza. 517 00:27:37,993 --> 00:27:43,460 It's a retaliatory hit that was targeted and very obvious. 518 00:27:43,460 --> 00:27:44,040 -hmm. 519 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,020 So like. 520 00:27:46,532 --> 00:27:52,782 I want to defend Riley getting pissed off because like you said from the whole 521 00:27:52,782 --> 00:27:56,332 roster of the team that is probably one of the least likely players you would expect 522 00:27:56,332 --> 00:27:57,912 to see that from. 523 00:27:58,652 --> 00:28:05,972 So I do like that fact because the team is showing that they're tired of all the BS, 524 00:28:05,972 --> 00:28:07,392 everything that's going on. 525 00:28:07,392 --> 00:28:10,412 Like the Jets, like, oh, is there anything better than beating the Leafs? 526 00:28:10,412 --> 00:28:12,272 Like that kind of shit, right? 527 00:28:12,352 --> 00:28:12,740 They're... 528 00:28:12,740 --> 00:28:14,310 They're done with that, which is good. 529 00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:16,440 That's like, that's the next step of the evolution. 530 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,900 You want that evolution as your team, but you go about it a different way. 531 00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:25,020 You hammer them into the boards and then you scrub it up on the ice or, you know, 532 00:28:25,020 --> 00:28:27,040 you grab them and throw them down. 533 00:28:27,060 --> 00:28:29,838 You don't cross check someone in the face. 534 00:28:30,697 --> 00:28:34,077 Yeah, that's where it crossed the line for sure. 535 00:28:34,177 --> 00:28:38,137 And I mean, obviously both acts from both guys are on a different level. 536 00:28:38,257 --> 00:28:42,157 But I think my initial reaction, not initial, but I'd say like 10 minutes later 537 00:28:42,157 --> 00:28:48,047 was like, I think both of those guys probably both regret and wouldn't do that 538 00:28:48,047 --> 00:28:48,357 again. 539 00:28:48,357 --> 00:28:50,517 Like it's one of those things where in the moment they're like, fuck yeah. 540 00:28:50,517 --> 00:28:51,997 And then immediately you're like, you know what? 541 00:28:51,997 --> 00:28:54,148 That probably wasn't a great idea. 542 00:28:54,148 --> 00:28:57,508 Or like if you're gonna cross track him, break your stick over his arm. 543 00:28:58,428 --> 00:29:01,477 Like, not that it's right, but... 544 00:29:01,477 --> 00:29:05,977 when the guy doesn't see it coming until the last second and can't protect 545 00:29:05,977 --> 00:29:10,117 themselves, like that's the last time you expect to get cross checked in the face 546 00:29:10,117 --> 00:29:11,307 after a whistle. 547 00:29:11,307 --> 00:29:12,177 You've just scored. 548 00:29:12,177 --> 00:29:13,177 It's the end of the game. 549 00:29:13,177 --> 00:29:17,717 Like I mean, like you said, rough the guy up, hit him like sure. 550 00:29:17,717 --> 00:29:20,467 But that's that's dangerous. 551 00:29:20,467 --> 00:29:24,809 And it's just not something regardless of what jersey you're wearing that. 552 00:29:24,809 --> 00:29:25,569 we need in this game. 553 00:29:25,569 --> 00:29:28,839 And again, it's just so crazy that we're talking about Morgan Reilly in this 554 00:29:28,839 --> 00:29:29,849 situation. 555 00:29:29,949 --> 00:29:34,329 Like, it's like if Mitch Marner, like two hands slashed a guy in the face and broke 556 00:29:34,329 --> 00:29:35,279 his teeth out or something. 557 00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:36,932 Like, it's just not what you expect from. 558 00:29:36,932 --> 00:29:42,492 that I would almost expect more because Marner wears his emotions on his sleeve, 559 00:29:42,492 --> 00:29:43,334 man. 560 00:29:43,879 --> 00:29:48,949 It's true, but you don't see either of them as being like violence first kind of 561 00:29:48,949 --> 00:29:49,239 guys. 562 00:29:49,239 --> 00:29:54,169 Like it's not how they handle things like I'd see martyr talking shit and like 563 00:29:54,169 --> 00:29:57,769 really getting up in someone's face and laughing and being really good at chirping 564 00:29:57,769 --> 00:30:00,869 sooner than I'd see him like to choose violence. 565 00:30:00,929 --> 00:30:03,861 And that's how I feel about Riley, too. 566 00:30:04,228 --> 00:30:08,208 Apparently Riley's a really good chaper on that note. 567 00:30:09,628 --> 00:30:15,538 But I just think like as someone who has had issues in the past dealing with their 568 00:30:15,538 --> 00:30:18,808 emotions, like as a kid I would get so angry I would burst into tears 569 00:30:18,808 --> 00:30:19,828 immediately. 570 00:30:20,648 --> 00:30:28,128 Like I can understand the craziness of intense emotions. 571 00:30:28,388 --> 00:30:31,854 So like we've seen Marder break into tears. 572 00:30:32,740 --> 00:30:37,140 We know how much he loves this team and how emotional he can get and I'm not 573 00:30:37,140 --> 00:30:42,450 saying that's a bad thing just of either of the two I could see him losing it 574 00:30:42,450 --> 00:30:43,772 because of that fact. 575 00:30:45,161 --> 00:30:46,361 It's fair. 576 00:30:46,981 --> 00:30:53,261 So I guess what this really comes down to is how many games like you said, it's 577 00:30:53,261 --> 00:30:53,881 close to 10. 578 00:30:53,881 --> 00:30:55,461 I'm thinking seven. 579 00:30:55,681 --> 00:30:58,891 And how much is this going to affect the team? 580 00:30:58,891 --> 00:31:03,021 Because like we've been saying up until this point, the defense has been shaky as 581 00:31:03,021 --> 00:31:06,841 shit and he's been this well solid thing every night. 582 00:31:07,161 --> 00:31:08,041 So. 583 00:31:08,581 --> 00:31:14,281 Now we're reports are we're down Timmons and Geo, so that's. 584 00:31:14,281 --> 00:31:16,361 you know, that really limits who you've got. 585 00:31:16,361 --> 00:31:18,761 I think they did actually say who was at practice tonight. 586 00:31:18,761 --> 00:31:19,436 I'm just going pull it up. 587 00:31:19,436 --> 00:31:25,856 they would have they called up la joy or Lajoi, however you want to say it. 588 00:31:25,856 --> 00:31:34,016 So to me, this might actually work as almost like a best case scenario. 589 00:31:34,016 --> 00:31:37,686 Because it really, really shows you what you have when you lose your best 590 00:31:37,686 --> 00:31:38,816 defenseman. 591 00:31:38,916 --> 00:31:49,524 And I'm really, really hoping we see Shanahan or Keefe or someone just snap. 592 00:31:49,796 --> 00:31:55,326 Like, Keef made a couple comments, almost sort of calling out the Department of 593 00:31:55,326 --> 00:31:56,412 Player Safety. 594 00:31:58,244 --> 00:32:02,324 Like, I just want to see Shanahan come out and say it. 595 00:32:02,324 --> 00:32:04,464 Or Trey Living, or someone, right? 596 00:32:04,464 --> 00:32:08,864 Like, aside from Keefe, the GM and the president, neither of them are short of 597 00:32:08,864 --> 00:32:09,744 money. 598 00:32:10,633 --> 00:32:12,133 Yeah, really. 599 00:32:12,953 --> 00:32:17,833 I'm just looking here from David Alter, Jake McCabe taking PP1 at practice. 600 00:32:18,213 --> 00:32:21,833 And we got here Brody Lillagren. 601 00:32:21,833 --> 00:32:22,953 There we go. 602 00:32:22,953 --> 00:32:29,403 Benoit McCabe, Laggison Giordano, Riley Lijois, so it'll probably be Laggison and 603 00:32:29,403 --> 00:32:34,193 Lijois because I was pretty sure I heard Giordano was out. 604 00:32:34,193 --> 00:32:36,093 But it says Timmons is ill. 605 00:32:36,553 --> 00:32:39,081 And I thought, oh, here, Keith says. 606 00:32:39,081 --> 00:32:43,921 They'll see how Giordano and Kamp should be okay for return tomorrow, but we'll see 607 00:32:43,921 --> 00:32:45,431 how they feel in the morning. 608 00:32:47,401 --> 00:32:49,881 Timmons remains ill and will not play tomorrow. 609 00:32:49,881 --> 00:32:50,781 Okay. 610 00:32:51,521 --> 00:32:54,401 And in other news, Joseph Wohl was back on the ice at practice. 611 00:32:54,401 --> 00:32:57,077 So not soon, but soonish. 612 00:32:57,892 --> 00:32:59,822 Yeah, like those are the next steps, right? 613 00:32:59,822 --> 00:33:03,302 Getting him on, getting him in his gear, doing the movements, just seeing before 614 00:33:03,302 --> 00:33:05,312 you try to stretch anything. 615 00:33:05,312 --> 00:33:12,332 And even the team defensive structure from the game he got hurt, like that is why he 616 00:33:12,332 --> 00:33:13,472 got hurt. 617 00:33:13,512 --> 00:33:18,062 Yes, it's amazing that you can go and you can make those incredible, you know, post 618 00:33:18,062 --> 00:33:21,152 to post saves, stretching across and robbing guys. 619 00:33:21,152 --> 00:33:24,432 Cause that's like every fan loves to see that. 620 00:33:24,432 --> 00:33:27,300 But at the same time, you shouldn't have to do... 621 00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:29,924 three or four of those in a two minute span. 622 00:33:30,729 --> 00:33:35,679 No, and look, again, if we're looking at the shitty decor that we're going to have 623 00:33:35,679 --> 00:33:39,969 to go with Brody Lilligrin, Benoit McCabe, Lagasin, and I guess it's maybe Geo if 624 00:33:39,969 --> 00:33:40,359 he's OK. 625 00:33:40,359 --> 00:33:48,549 So Lagasin Geo, that's going to be in front of what an unconfident Samsonov or 626 00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:53,649 Martin Jones, who's been really, really 50 50 like one game he can be great in the 627 00:33:53,649 --> 00:33:53,869 next. 628 00:33:53,869 --> 00:33:55,629 It's like whatever. 629 00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:56,869 So. 630 00:33:57,509 --> 00:34:00,007 My God, I don't love this. 631 00:34:01,577 --> 00:34:06,257 who were, let's just say it's seven games, OK? 632 00:34:06,597 --> 00:34:06,957 St. 633 00:34:06,957 --> 00:34:09,447 Louis, Philly, Anaheim, St. 634 00:34:09,447 --> 00:34:11,277 Louis, Arizona. 635 00:34:11,537 --> 00:34:13,497 OK, that's not bad. 636 00:34:14,177 --> 00:34:15,657 That's really not bad. 637 00:34:15,657 --> 00:34:16,277 That's five. 638 00:34:16,277 --> 00:34:20,217 And then we got Golden Knights and an Avalanche for six and seven. 639 00:34:20,217 --> 00:34:22,497 And then if it goes eight Golden Knights again. 640 00:34:22,497 --> 00:34:26,397 So really, they should be able to handle two games against St. 641 00:34:26,397 --> 00:34:29,477 Louis, a game against the Ducks and against the Coyotes. 642 00:34:29,477 --> 00:34:31,041 Flyers, who knows? 643 00:34:31,241 --> 00:34:35,881 But they should, holy shit, should be able to handle those games without Riley. 644 00:34:35,881 --> 00:34:39,301 Like, it couldn't have come at a better time because the back half of their 645 00:34:39,301 --> 00:34:40,561 schedule sucks. 646 00:34:40,561 --> 00:34:44,131 And this seems like the only easier stretch based on the current standings 647 00:34:44,131 --> 00:34:45,049 that they have. 648 00:34:45,956 --> 00:34:51,176 Yeah, like I said, I think this is gonna come to a head. 649 00:34:51,176 --> 00:34:55,376 It's gonna be some drastic suspension, seven, eight. 650 00:34:55,596 --> 00:35:00,426 I honestly wouldn't even be surprised if they gave them 10 games, which sounds 651 00:35:00,426 --> 00:35:01,365 asinine. 652 00:35:01,365 --> 00:35:02,625 definitely going to appeal it. 653 00:35:02,625 --> 00:35:03,965 Like they're going to appeal it either way. 654 00:35:03,965 --> 00:35:05,765 But if it's 10, they would have to. 655 00:35:05,765 --> 00:35:10,035 And I'm sure that goes down just because of because I think what you get into there 656 00:35:10,035 --> 00:35:12,705 is the Leafs. 657 00:35:12,705 --> 00:35:17,435 I know they can't take this into account, but like I don't think Batman's going to 658 00:35:17,435 --> 00:35:23,505 want Paros sending a message with a high profile player on the Leafs where people 659 00:35:23,505 --> 00:35:28,965 are going to protest with their money when things are getting bullshit. 660 00:35:29,828 --> 00:35:32,736 Well, what do you mean by protest with their money? 661 00:35:33,257 --> 00:35:41,367 Like if people are going to start, you know, not going to games or something when 662 00:35:41,367 --> 00:35:45,637 Riley's not there because of like how bullshit the like if it's 10 games and 663 00:35:45,637 --> 00:35:49,857 they uphold 10 games, like you're going to see some sort of backlash to that that I 664 00:35:49,857 --> 00:35:53,517 don't think Batman's going to be like I'm not advocating for the least getting 665 00:35:53,517 --> 00:35:54,097 special treatment. 666 00:35:54,097 --> 00:35:57,867 I'm saying like 10 games to make an example out of Morgan Riley seems like a 667 00:35:57,867 --> 00:36:01,915 stupid thing to do, like just for the marketing of the game. 668 00:36:02,082 --> 00:36:05,032 what you're saying, but Betman's already proven he doesn't give two shits about 669 00:36:05,032 --> 00:36:06,372 Canadian teams. 670 00:36:07,112 --> 00:36:14,582 And with the history of the Leafs, you could bench Matthews for two months and 671 00:36:14,582 --> 00:36:15,948 they'd still sell out. 672 00:36:17,255 --> 00:36:20,535 But I mean, look, the guy that you just sent to the All -Star game is the person 673 00:36:20,535 --> 00:36:25,465 you're going to make an example out of for something that's not as, I don't know. 674 00:36:25,465 --> 00:36:29,265 Again, I'm not, I don't want to sound like I'm def... 675 00:36:29,265 --> 00:36:30,025 Yeah. 676 00:36:30,025 --> 00:36:32,345 I'm not trying to sound like I'm defending the hit. 677 00:36:32,345 --> 00:36:35,755 I still think it was, you know, like I said, it was over the line. 678 00:36:35,755 --> 00:36:36,415 It's dangerous. 679 00:36:36,415 --> 00:36:37,275 It's uncalled for. 680 00:36:37,275 --> 00:36:38,445 It's unsafe. 681 00:36:39,665 --> 00:36:40,006 Yeah. 682 00:36:40,006 --> 00:36:45,106 100%, two or three games, but he's going to end up getting like 10. 683 00:36:45,353 --> 00:36:48,333 Like it's in person, so we know it's at least five. 684 00:36:49,233 --> 00:36:51,873 Yeah, tens excessive. 685 00:36:51,873 --> 00:36:55,153 Seven, I would be like fine, sure. 686 00:36:56,293 --> 00:36:56,913 Whatever. 687 00:36:56,913 --> 00:36:57,322 It's. 688 00:36:57,322 --> 00:37:03,022 sure whatever if there was consistency and if the next guy that did this got the same 689 00:37:03,022 --> 00:37:03,892 thing. 690 00:37:03,892 --> 00:37:05,321 But it's not gonna happen. 691 00:37:05,321 --> 00:37:06,521 It's not. 692 00:37:07,281 --> 00:37:09,181 It's definitely not. 693 00:37:09,841 --> 00:37:12,961 OK, so I mean, we went over where our next games are. 694 00:37:12,961 --> 00:37:13,771 We've gone over the lineup. 695 00:37:13,771 --> 00:37:18,831 This has pretty much been where the Leafs are now, because, man, it's been a weird 696 00:37:18,831 --> 00:37:19,781 time. 697 00:37:19,781 --> 00:37:21,091 Slow part of the season. 698 00:37:21,091 --> 00:37:24,951 Things have been very shaky and no one knows what's going to happen. 699 00:37:24,951 --> 00:37:26,041 Come trade deadline. 700 00:37:26,041 --> 00:37:26,981 So. 701 00:37:27,541 --> 00:37:31,081 Yeah, just our thoughts up until now, I guess. 702 00:37:33,073 --> 00:37:34,473 Thanks. 703 00:37:34,473 --> 00:37:38,603 If you guys have any questions or some games you want us to play, we are going to 704 00:37:38,603 --> 00:37:39,853 get back to it here. 705 00:37:39,853 --> 00:37:44,053 But just a short one tonight because we got to update on this Riley thing and it's 706 00:37:44,053 --> 00:37:44,793 late. 707 00:37:44,953 --> 00:37:45,653 So. 708 00:37:45,653 --> 00:37:48,673 Appreciate y 'all and we'll see you next time. 709 00:37:49,353 --> 00:37:50,273 Ciao. 710 00:37:50,413 --> 00:37:51,573 Ciao. 711 00:37:52,093 --> 00:37:53,233 Ciao. 712 00:38:19,625 --> 00:38:21,015 Look how tight that hat was. 713 00:38:21,015 --> 00:38:22,805 That was giving me a headache. 714 00:38:23,225 --> 00:38:25,025 That leaf's hat is too small. 715 00:38:25,025 --> 00:38:30,445 Giving away a free small leaf's hat to whoever claims it.