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You're listening to The Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun, in
practical ways, Chris Jeff, Today is

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another day. Oh man, it's
good to be here with you, in

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this place, with all these people, with all these people, all these

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just me and you and then the
audio guy I know, and all the

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people that are listening. Yeah,
you don't feel like you're sitting in the

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car with this person while they're driving
on the road. Oh, I see

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what you're saying. I thought you
were referring all these to our physical proximity,

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which which, by the way,
we always mentioned Desiree who does the

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show sheets, But I mentioned the
audio guy. It's Josh. Josh.

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Yeah. Our audio guy has a
name. He does, Yeah, the

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audio guy. And he also does
the video too, he does whoa Cool.

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He's our audio video guys. So, and I bet you didn't expect

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to get mentioned. He didn't.
Yeah, he paid you twenty bucks.

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Okay, So amen, My dream
is to be mentioned on the Bible.

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I want some Shoel credits, okay, definitely, how he talks. What

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do we do it now? It's
not okay? So today I have some

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really tough ones for you, law
or flaw. So I'm going to read

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five laws and you get to figure
out if the laws laws which way?

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Was so hard. I just found
out that we're doing this about two minutes

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ago, and I my first comment
out of my mouth is is that there's

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no rhyme or reason for this,
no right. So there's no way for

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me to even be able to guess
this intelligently. So the flaws are funny

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because you just go some absurd person
wrote down a funny thing to say,

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right. But the laws, some
of these are like who made that a

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law? And where do you find
these things? So Desiree finds some of

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the weirdest laws and flaws here.
It is the first one. Everyone in

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Arizona. Yep, it's illegal to
have a donkey sleeping in your bathtub after

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seven pm. Oh, stop it, stop it. That is so crazy,

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okay, law, you're right,
it is no way that astinct.

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I wonder under what circumstances that the
geniuses, the founding fathers of that city

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determined. You know, one of
the problems we got around here. Some

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guy was campaigning on that. So
for me and I'm gonna outlaw donkey sleeping

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in bed whatever. I can't believe
I got it. Okay. In Arkansas,

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Number two, it is illegal to
sound your horn at any place where

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cold drinks or sandwiches are served after
nine pm. After nine pm, that's

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actually the only thing that makes sense. Honking at night is disturbing peace.

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I'm gonna say, law, it
is a law. Why that's crack you

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worked it out? Wow? Wow? Why cold sandwiches or drinks? So

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I think the cold sandwiches and drinks
probably are just they mean nothing. It's

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if it's illegal to honk your horn
and after nine pm anywhere it would be

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I'm picturing somebody like their drink is
spilling. Yeah. Well, I think

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if it's illegal to honk your horn
anywhere in the city, yeah, after

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nine pm, then it would be
illegal to honk it near place the cold

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drinks of sandwiches. I think that's
just okay for two. Miraculously all right.

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Number three, in Georgia, it's
illegal to bite your landlord. That's

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interesting. Um, So oftentimes Desiree
would make all five of them the same

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thing, like either they're all laws
or af flaws. So I'm gonna say,

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law, it's a flaw. But
I think that there's a mistake there

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because I think that would be considered
assault, wouldn't it an assault is illegal

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everywhere? Huh So I don't know, but it's a flaw where it's not

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expressly said I'm not allowed to bite
your landlord. But officer, there's nowhere.

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Show me the law that says I'm
not allowed to bite my landlord.

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Okay, here we go. So
you two for three. Number four,

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in Pennsylvania, it's illegal to tie
a crocodile or alligator to a car in

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Pennsylvania. Pennsylvanias don't have crocodiles.
I'm gonna say, people, people have

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alligators and crocodiles at home. No, the train they have alligators. They

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don't have crocodiles. Crocodiles are like
in the Middle East or well, either

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in Australia. All right, No, I'm gonna say no, there's no

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way Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania. You didn't
even say Florida. Okay, I'm gonna

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say somebody made that. Ou I'm
gonna say flaw. It is a flaw.

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There it is. And then number
five, lastly, boom, so

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you're three for four. Yeah,
I'm very proud of myself. In New

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York, it is illegal to shine
shoes after one pm on a Sunday New

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York. Okay, Well, first
of all, on a Sunday wouldn't matter

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because New York, of all states, I would imagine, wouldn't care about

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Sundays in the way that somebody in
the South would. Does that make sense?

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But it's only one pm after one
pm on Sunday, so you can

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shine your shoes for church. I'm
gonna say, law, it's illegal to

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shine shoes after one pm on a
Sunday. Yea, I'm gonna say law.

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It's a law. It is a
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

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wow, awesome, Yeah, good
job, Chris So four for five,

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four for five. It's pretty good
there. You should be proud of yourself.

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You should call your mom, by
the way, mom. On two

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of those, I went completely against
my instinct. I thought I was gonna

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say flaw for the last one,
and I almost literally as I was saying

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the word flaw, I just said
law, law wow. And I thought,

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because I'm always get these wrong,
right, just said the other one.

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Yeah. And George Costanza, yeah, I'm doing the opposite, right.

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That's you saw that episode A side
twenty two forty one. Great,

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okay, well, good, good
job, Chris. We are so proud

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of you. It's one of the
reasons why we listen to you, because

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we feel like your authority on all
the important things in life. Well,

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that's so kind of you. You're
an expert. So today our reading is

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in three different passages. Matthew twenty
two, yes, Mark twelve, and

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Luke twenty And the religious leaders cannot
answer Jesus questions, so they've been asking

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him questions. Now he flips the
script, and while he answered all theirs,

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they're a little befuddled. Befuddled.
Thanks for bringing that out, great

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one, so Matthew twenty two to
forty one says. Then, surrounded by

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the pharisees, Jesus asked them a
question, what do you think about the

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Messiah? Whose son is he?
They replied, He's the son of David.

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Jesus responded, then, why does
David, speaking under the inspiration of

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the spirit, call the Messiah my
Lord? For David said the Lord said

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to my lord, sit in the
place of honor at my right hand until

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I humble your enemy. He's beneath
your feet. Since David called the Messiah

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my lord, how can the Messiah
be his son? No one could answer

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him, and after that no one
dared ask him any more questions. There

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it is again, There it is
again. He just shutting them down,

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the shut down left er right,
yeah, yeah, Well they quit asking

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him questions, so now he's coming
after them. Uh. Mark chapter twelve,

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verse thirty five says later, as
Jesus was teaching the people in the

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temple, he asked, why are
the teachers of religious law claim that the

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Messiah is the son of David?
For David himself, speaking under the inspiration

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of the Holy Spirit, said the
Lord said, to my Lord, sit

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in the place of honor at my
right hand until I humble your enemies beneath

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your feet. Since David himself called
the Messiah my Lord, how can the

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Messiah be his son? The large
crowd listened to him with great delight.

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Ah, they knew what he was
doing. And then in Luke chapter twenty,

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verse forty one, it says,
then Jesus presented them a question.

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Why is it? He asked that
the Messiah is said to be the son

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of David? For David himself wrote
in the Book of Psalms, the Lord

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said to my Lord, sit in
the place of honor at my right hand

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until I humble your enemies, making
them footstool under your feet. Since David

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called the Messiah lord, how can
the Messiah be his son? So it

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seems like two of them are straight
up Jesus going after the Pharisees. The

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one in the middle Mark seems to
be. After he does it, he

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goes and tells the crowd what just
happened, right right, which is funny.

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Yeah, and it says the large
crowd listens to him with great delight

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because it would be delightful to watch
Jesus put the Pharisees in their place,

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wouldn't it. Yeah, yeah,
so I would imagine that would be very

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delightful. Well, they kind of
functioned a little bit like the morality police,

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right, so we know this In
some of the Muslim countries they have

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clothing police and hijab police and you
know, all those things, and they

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go around and punish people who aren't
following the rules exactly right when it comes

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to morality stuff. And the Pharisees
would wouldn't do that with regard to violence

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all the times, but they would
be the ones that would incite it.

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Somebody got caught in a thing,
they'd be the ones that would incite the

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violence against them. They would shame
people for not following the law exactly right

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or not living exactly like they lived. And so, yeah, the people

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would have they would have admired them
on one level while those are holy people,

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and they also would have been frustrated. It's the way. I had

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a friend that went to a private
school that was led by nuns back in

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the day, and when he would
talk about the nuns, he would talk

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about how holy they are and how
with God connected to God they are,

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and at the same time, same
time you talk about how mean they were

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to am smacking the back of his
hands with rulers, and so he admired

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them and resented them at the same
time. And I think that's very,

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very similar to the way that the
people viewed the Pharisees. They admired them

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for being so holy, better than
me, but they also were frustrated because

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they were always, you know,
being shamed and punished by them, and

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so they delighted it when Jesus,
when Jesus would catch them right. Well,

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you know, I always view the
people's view of the Pharisees based on

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the evidence in the scriptures. I
always viewed it as a similar really not

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that much different than today. So, for instance, somebody somebody, you

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walk up and tell somebody that you're
pastor. Right, immediately somebody will go,

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oh, oh goodness, and they'll
pay you respect or something, and

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they'll like literally change their demeanor or
they'll say, I didn't know you were

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a pastor, Sorry for that joke. I just told you know, you

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know, backtrack or something like this. And immediately there's like a there's like

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a reverence thing happening, right,
or respect thing, I guess. And

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then and then at the same time, there are people who just will actually

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resent you for being a pastor.
Right. I've run into my share of

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people, even one time at a
wedding somebody, you know, it was

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just such a weird interaction where people
just scoffed at me because they thought that

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pastors would judge their lifestyle of the
kind of thing. And so anyway,

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I just think that it was sort
of that way. I think that people

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who felt, you know, who
were angry and felt really repressed by the

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pharisees the morality police, they just
hated them. And then there are probably

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people who absolutely respected them and loved
them. And I don't think it's that

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much different than today. I really
don't. Hey, let me tell you

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real quick story just for fun.
So I was in college and I remember

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coming home on Christmas break to Ohio
and I was I was at home visiting

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my girlfriend who's now my wife,
and I remember driving from her house to

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my house and it was about two
in the morning, right. I had

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stayed over there watching movies with their
family. And so as I'm driving home,

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I'm really sleepy, right, and
so I ended up weaving, and

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as a as a weaving, an
officer pulls me over and I literally get

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out of my car. I don't
know why I was out of my car

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because I don't think he was doing
the walk the line test, but I

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think he wanted me out of the
car, and maybe he was about to

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do the walk of the wine test, right, But anyway, here's what

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happens. He looks at me and
he goes, hey, he goes,

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were you drinking? And I go, well, no, I wasn't drinking.

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And he goes, it's two in
the morning. This when the bars

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get out, and I go,
I wasn't drinking. This is Youngstown,

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Right, I mean if you're out
of two in the morning and you're start

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coming from a bar, right,
And I said no, I said,

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I don't drink, sir, And
he goes, you kidd me. He

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goes, you're like twenty one years
old. He goes, you're prime drinking

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age. And I said, sir, I'm a Bible college student, right,

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I don't drink. And he looked
at me and he started laughing,

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and he goes, you're not a
Bible college student. And he just starts

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cracking up, like this is the
most absurd lie ever. And I said,

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look, and I pointed to the
back of my car and in my

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window I had like a sticker that
said Baptist Bible college speak from Missouri.

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And so I go look, and
so he grabbed the light and he shined

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it. And as soon as he
saw that, he goes, I'm so

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sorry. He goes, I'm so
sorry, you know, He goes,

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then just just stay safe and get
in your car and go home. And

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at twenty one years old, I
thought to myself, I can't believe that

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worked. And I can't believe that
he changed his entire demeanor. A police

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officer immediately showed me respect. And
I guess it's because looking back at it

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now, probably hears everything, right
sure, and he probably thinks, wow,

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I've actually come across somebody who's innocent. Yeah, yeah, right right,

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But isn't that crazy? That's funny. Yeah. So in this then

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the Pharisees are you know, Jesus
turns the tables on the Pharisees and he's

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challenging them. Now, let me
ask you a question, because they they

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have been for quite a while trying
to trip him up. And if you

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remember, you know, it spends
several days since this happened, but Jesus

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kind of went on a string there
of him telling the people, I am

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the Messiah right as he's as he's
coming into Jerusalem. He mentions it several

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different times. If you've seen me, you've seen the Father. We read

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that passage. There's a bunch of
these these things where he's claiming to be

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God, and in this one,
there's not maybe a better argument among the

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religious leaders that Jesus is claiming to
be God than right here, because they

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knew that the law or not the
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the Messiah would be from David's family
right now, they're looking for a political

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Messiah, and Jesus is trying to
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return of the king, right,
You're not looking for some you know,

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exiled king who they were just going
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off, and I'm taking over Rome
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well, then why does David refer
to the Messiah as his lord? Right?

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And they're like what? And what
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the Messiah was going to be God. And this is the exact same test

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that there's a note here where did
I see it? Uh? There's a

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note here in Life Application Study Bible
that says Jesus quotes from Psalm one ten,

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verse one, that the Lord said
to my Lord, sitting in their

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place of honor, at my right
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the Messiah would be greater than David, which is a shock because people don't

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view at that time, they didn't
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Father. Right. But Hebrews one, verse thirteen uses the same text as

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proof of Christ's deity. Isn't that
interesting? So Jesus uses it later on

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the Book of Hebrews uses it to
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the Sun is the Lord, and
the son of David are It's God who's

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coming from David's family, right,
He's going to be born in David's family.

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And this is one of those declarations
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clearly the Pharisees understood what he was
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David said it, right, and
they hadn't even ever seen that passage that

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way before. Have you ever had
that? You've had somebody bring up a

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verse and you're like, I have
never Yeah, I never noticed that before,

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right, Yeah, that's why it
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with us, Yeah yeah, right. In fact, the one that just

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aired that I watched where you'd said, hey, I've never seen this before,

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but it said when he overturned the
money, Oh yeah, changers,

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you're just like and the other political
leaders. Right, yeah, I've never

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seen that. I'd never seen that
before. Right. Hey. By the

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way, the Son of David could
be the root of the entire line of

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thinking of misunderstanding, because let me
ask you this, and I actually don't

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know the answer to this, how
many years at this point in time?

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Because this is right around like what
thirty three a d ish, right,

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Yeah, yeah, roughly roughly.
So how many years had it been since

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Israel had an actual king? Because
the Greeks defeated Israel and then the Romans

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defeated the Greeks, So I mean
it's hundreds of years? Yeah, yeah,

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it would have been the four hundred
years between Yep, between Malachi and

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Jesus. Okay, so probably somewhere
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four hundred years, maybe a little
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Israel wanted a king from the beginning, remember, and and and actually

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God, it was not God's desire
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But Israel wanted to be a nation
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And so what ended up happening was
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desire to have a king, they
chose a king among themselves who was you

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know, by his stature, and
they chose Saul, remember, and then

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then then God raises up David,
right, and so David becomes you know,

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the greatest king that's still referred to
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years later, one hundreds and hundreds
of years, and there was a promise

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attached to David where you know,
it said, hey, the Messiah will

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come from David. Now it's when
they say the son of David, they

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don't literally mean one generation. They
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which is why in the Book of
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it Mary right where he actually like, high is the Mother of Jesus all

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the way to David because I think
mat Matthew. And then the other one

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comes from Abraham right and goes all
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with what they're really doing is is
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world will come from the lineage of
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reason why. And I may have
gotten that wrong, but you know,

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you know what I'm saying. There's
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One leads to Mary, one leads
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one goes all they back to Abraham. Kay, and and and he's

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the son of Abraham and he's the
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Yes, that's right. Anyway,
here's my rambling on point. My rambling

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on point is I could almost completely
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be just the restoration of an earthly
king, right, because after all,

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he's the son of David. And
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the Messiah is going to come from, you know, the son of David,

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that means eventually God is going to
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kingdom, to make us again a
great nation. And you can't have two

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kings, which means our king will
overthrow the King of Caesar. Right,

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and so that that is what you
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And so when Jesus is challenging their
notion of the Messiah, whose son is

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he? They're saying, the son
of David, Jesus is trying to right

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size the understanding, and he's trying
to say, yeah, it's from the

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leaningage of David. He is nicknamed
the son of David, but he is

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David's Lord. To understand what the
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it's really interesting too because after all, this is the you know, this

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is after they were yelling Hosannah,
right, you know, the son of

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David. They were marching him in
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just recently, so they just didn't
realize that his role was far greater than

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just being unearthly king r Yes.
So the note for Luke, chapter twenty,

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verse forty one and through forty four
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is what we believe about Jesus.
Other spiritual questions are irrelevant unless we first

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decide to believe that Jesus is who
he said he is. The Pharisees and

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said Dises could not do this and
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So that's really the issue. You
might have lots of other spiritual questions,

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but the first question you have to
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be. All the other things we
can resolve, we can work through,

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but the only one that really matters
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And Jesus claimed to be the Messiah, he claimed to be God in

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the flesh, and eventually he winds
up proving it by you know, dying

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on the cross, paying for our
sins and rising again. So that's really

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it. All the other questions are
irrelevant until you answer this one. Is

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Jesus? Who he claim to be? Yeah? Yeah, there's a book

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called Who Is That Man? Have
you ever read that book? I don't

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know who is that Man? And
you as I forget who wrote it?

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Is it? Is it a CS
Lewis book? I don't remember that one.

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But anyway, Who Is That Man
is a book that I read in

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college and it talks about answering that
question, you know, who was Jesus?

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Was he an earthly figure or was
he more than that? And it's

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a beautiful book. It's awesome.
Did you ever read the book More than

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a Carpenter? Josh McDonald? Yes, yes, Actually it's kind of that

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book too. Yes, right,
it's the same idea. You haven't want

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to read a quick book that's built
around that idea he's more than a carpenter.

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Yeah, that's great. All right. Well, hey that is right

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at our time, so we will
see you next time on the Bible. Guys,