Watermark's Church Leadership Podcast

Zeal is more than emotion. It’s an abiding passion for Jesus that sustains us in both fruitful and difficult seasons of ministry. 

In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John McGee is joined by Dave Bruskas, Emma Dotter, and Kylen Perry to discuss what “zeal” really means, why it matters, and how leaders can cultivate it. Together they talk through: 

  • The difference between “zeal” for results vs. “zeal” for Jesus 
  • The subtle threats that cause zeal to fade—burnout, apathy, distraction, and opposition 
  • Practical ways to reignite your heart and sustain passion for the long haul of ministry 
If your fire feels dim or if you want to keep it burning brighter, this episode is for you. 


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  1. March 4–5: Re|engage (marriage enrichment)
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Creators and Guests

Host
John McGee
Guest
Dave Bruskas
Guest
Emma Dotter

What is Watermark's Church Leadership Podcast?

A podcast designed to help church leaders. The conversation each month will focus on issues and topics relevant to church leaders across the country and around the world.