WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.379 --> 00:00:04.241 Matt: Alison, It's so interesting to see you in my brother's office. 00:00:04.571 --> 00:00:06.451 Alison: I know it's weird isn't it? 00:00:06.891 --> 00:00:08.291 Matt: I'm like, Hmm. 00:00:08.351 --> 00:00:10.061 Where, what is happening? 00:00:10.371 --> 00:00:14.044 Alison: Just, we played some fruit basket turnover with our locations this week. 00:00:14.049 --> 00:00:17.464 So Evan, Evan won, Evan got to go to Mexico. 00:00:17.644 --> 00:00:20.314 Uh, I, I got, got to come to Atlanta. 00:00:20.344 --> 00:00:20.824 Matt: Yes. 00:00:21.034 --> 00:00:22.054 You got to Atlanta. 00:00:22.204 --> 00:00:23.284 And then I will go to Atlanta. 00:00:24.364 --> 00:00:25.774 where we will all win 00:00:27.094 --> 00:00:30.044 Alison: Where it will be Castle Birthday, Part Two: Electric Boogaloo. 00:00:30.224 --> 00:00:33.094 Matt: Boogaloo except no castle and no birthday. 00:00:33.397 --> 00:00:34.684 Well, actually Evan's birthday. 00:00:34.684 --> 00:00:34.984 Alison: Yeah. 00:00:34.989 --> 00:00:36.364 We're gonna be celebrating him. 00:00:36.814 --> 00:00:38.584 That feels pretty damn good to me. 00:00:38.684 --> 00:00:40.334 Matt: Um, yeah. 00:00:41.294 --> 00:00:43.094 Yes, yes, yes, yes. 00:00:43.214 --> 00:00:46.964 Uh, it was my 10 year anniversary yesterday. 00:00:47.114 --> 00:00:47.744 That was fun. 00:00:48.464 --> 00:00:52.094 Alison: That's pretty momentous for anybody, but I feel like, especially 00:00:52.094 --> 00:00:56.064 for somebody, with ADHD, for you to latch onto something for 10 whole years. 00:00:58.031 --> 00:01:01.461 Matt: You know, they say that if you have ADHD in a marriage that 00:01:01.461 --> 00:01:04.101 it is less likely to survive. 00:01:04.811 --> 00:01:04.901 Alison: Aww! 00:01:05.301 --> 00:01:10.671 Matt: And then if you are married to a deaf person and you're hearing. 00:01:10.761 --> 00:01:14.151 So in other words, like if, if you marry someone who's ADHD and you 00:01:14.151 --> 00:01:18.149 don't have ADHD, then it there's a larger chance that you won't make it. 00:01:18.239 --> 00:01:22.889 And also if you are deaf and with a hearing person, it's more likely to, 00:01:23.039 --> 00:01:24.449 but I think they cancel each out. 00:01:24.449 --> 00:01:24.809 It's kind of 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:25.889 Alison: There it is 00:01:25.889 --> 00:01:27.689 Matt: Like, um, when you get, 00:01:27.689 --> 00:01:28.619 Alison: ...make a positive, 00:01:28.709 --> 00:01:32.729 Matt: Well, I was gonna say two advantages, uh, don't necessarily make 00:01:33.239 --> 00:01:37.859 additional advantage, but definitely one disadvantage and one advantage, cancel 00:01:37.919 --> 00:01:39.789 Alison: Straight roll, straight roll. 00:01:39.859 --> 00:01:43.049 Matt: And I'll say that, that I'm the disadvantage and Lindsay's advantage. 00:01:47.803 --> 00:01:51.463 Alison: You know, with, with anybody else I might disagree, 00:01:51.468 --> 00:01:53.713 but Lindsay Jean is pretty great. 00:01:53.713 --> 00:01:54.193 So, 00:01:56.743 --> 00:01:59.983 Matt: I was waiting for you to disagree, but it didn't come and that's okay. 00:01:59.983 --> 00:02:02.020 I agree with your dis disagreeing. 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:04.990 Yeah, but it was, it was, it was fun and we ha we're gonna 00:02:04.990 --> 00:02:06.280 have a fancy dinner tonight. 00:02:06.520 --> 00:02:11.770 And, uh, she, uh, she liked the poem that I wrote and, uh, it's just nice. 00:02:11.920 --> 00:02:12.310 It's nice. 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:14.050 Alison: And she gave you... 00:02:14.494 --> 00:02:16.334 Matt: And she gave me these beautiful dice. 00:02:16.354 --> 00:02:20.944 So the, the three things that, that are supposed to be 10 year anniversary 00:02:21.124 --> 00:02:26.524 gifts are tin, T-I-N, tin for 10. 00:02:26.524 --> 00:02:26.974 That's weird. 00:02:26.974 --> 00:02:28.084 I just thought of that. 00:02:28.384 --> 00:02:31.714 Uh, daffodils and diamonds. 00:02:32.224 --> 00:02:34.474 We don't care about diamonds at all. 00:02:34.504 --> 00:02:36.964 We're not diamonds people, so we don't care about that. 00:02:37.534 --> 00:02:43.954 Tin is fine, weird, weird, but she gave me, uh, A set of dice that 00:02:43.954 --> 00:02:45.964 have little daffodils inside them. 00:02:46.264 --> 00:02:46.954 So cute. 00:02:46.954 --> 00:02:47.704 Alison: I love that so much. 00:02:47.704 --> 00:02:48.124 Matt: I know. 00:02:48.234 --> 00:02:48.754 So fun. 00:02:48.754 --> 00:02:51.769 Alison: Did, did you think that 10 years ago, A. 00:02:51.774 --> 00:02:54.469 You'd be standing here still married, still wildly in love, 00:02:54.469 --> 00:02:55.639 even more now than before. 00:02:55.729 --> 00:02:56.429 And 2. 00:02:56.449 --> 00:03:00.739 that she'd be giving you Dungeons & Dragons things for the games that you play 00:03:01.359 --> 00:03:03.839 multiple times a week, whod've thunk it? 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:04.490 Matt: Yeah. 00:03:04.490 --> 00:03:09.110 The poem that I wrote was about the fact that, that when we got 00:03:09.110 --> 00:03:13.584 married 10 years ago everyone was like, oh, marriage is so hard. 00:03:13.584 --> 00:03:14.634 It's so much work. 00:03:14.874 --> 00:03:16.074 And like, so we never believed in it. 00:03:16.104 --> 00:03:17.604 Like we weren't going to get married. 00:03:17.634 --> 00:03:20.754 We weren't going to, uh, which is fine. 00:03:20.814 --> 00:03:22.104 That's totally valid. 00:03:22.104 --> 00:03:23.154 It's a valid choice. 00:03:23.214 --> 00:03:26.904 And, uh, and yet we did, we just like, okay, let's try it. 00:03:27.174 --> 00:03:32.454 But we, we tried it with the stipulation that we would check in after 10 years. 00:03:32.664 --> 00:03:37.644 And if both parties agreed that it was a favorable partnership, 00:03:37.854 --> 00:03:42.954 then we would extend the contract for another 5 or 10 years. 00:03:43.284 --> 00:03:47.724 We, we thought we were being so smart and so hip to do that. 00:03:47.724 --> 00:03:52.339 And so the poem was all about, God, what an idiot, what an idiot I was. 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:55.699 Alison: So are you gonna have to go back through this every 10 years or, 00:03:55.699 --> 00:03:57.559 or now are we just good moving forward? 00:03:57.559 --> 00:04:01.039 Like you've just accepted that you were meant for each other and better together. 00:04:01.284 --> 00:04:01.819 Matt: That's it. 00:04:01.874 --> 00:04:06.614 Of course that's ridiculous how foolish we were to think that. 00:04:06.614 --> 00:04:12.592 And there's no one in the world that I'd ever wanna be married to beyond her. 00:04:12.682 --> 00:04:13.102 Yeah. 00:04:13.466 --> 00:04:13.676 Yeah. 00:04:13.766 --> 00:04:14.126 That's true. 00:04:14.771 --> 00:04:16.841 Alison: So we won't have to worry about this check-in when we're 00:04:16.846 --> 00:04:21.851 celebrating ADHd20's 10 year birthday Matt and Lindsay's 20 year 00:04:21.851 --> 00:04:23.381 anniversary is what you're telling me. 00:04:23.486 --> 00:04:24.056 Matt: I hope not. 00:04:24.206 --> 00:04:24.566 You know? 00:04:24.571 --> 00:04:27.476 I mean I think it's okay to be a realistic person though. 00:04:27.526 --> 00:04:30.466 I don't think you necessarily have to go pessimism, but... 00:04:31.621 --> 00:04:36.331 I just know that life is full of changes and ups and downs and all kinds of things. 00:04:36.331 --> 00:04:40.968 But I think that if, it's just that when you find somebody that 00:04:40.968 --> 00:04:43.638 makes, makes life easier, right? 00:04:44.321 --> 00:04:45.851 For a lot of people, marriage is difficult. 00:04:45.851 --> 00:04:46.571 They don't like it. 00:04:46.571 --> 00:04:47.201 It's fine. 00:04:47.231 --> 00:04:48.611 That's that they try it. 00:04:48.616 --> 00:04:49.391 It doesn't work. 00:04:49.421 --> 00:04:50.771 There's no shame in that either. 00:04:50.831 --> 00:04:52.301 There's not, you're a human being. 00:04:52.391 --> 00:04:55.601 Life does throw you a bunch of stuff, right? 00:04:55.601 --> 00:04:59.321 Like that's, it's not fair to say I'm never gonna do this. 00:04:59.321 --> 00:04:59.961 LA LA LA. 00:05:00.281 --> 00:05:03.791 But it has been the opposite, like. 00:05:04.446 --> 00:05:06.116 It is very easy with Lindsay. 00:05:06.686 --> 00:05:09.716 And again, I'm not saying that's the way for everybody, but it's very 00:05:09.716 --> 00:05:12.896 easy for us and she makes it easier. 00:05:13.016 --> 00:05:17.396 Alison: I was just gonna say, because I only know you as part of Matt and Lindsay, 00:05:17.396 --> 00:05:21.116 like, I didn't really know the, before Lindsay Matt, so of course I'm over here. 00:05:21.116 --> 00:05:26.396 Like, well, duh, everything that you're saying is apparent obvious, but you had 00:05:26.396 --> 00:05:30.036 lived a lot of life before you, you know, decided to lock it down with Lindsay. 00:05:30.036 --> 00:05:32.493 Matt: This is most definitely the better Matt. 00:05:32.493 --> 00:05:34.713 This is, this is the best, best version. 00:05:34.793 --> 00:05:39.398 I'm not gonna say that I as an asshole necessarily before her, but 00:05:39.578 --> 00:05:43.658 I'm a much better person and I, and I try to be a much better person. 00:05:44.193 --> 00:05:44.613 Alison: Mm-hmm 00:05:45.038 --> 00:05:47.528 Matt: Anyway, we're going to a fancy dinner tonight and. 00:05:47.768 --> 00:05:50.038 Uh, I'm psyched. 00:05:50.823 --> 00:05:52.463 Alison: So not pizza on a Friday. 00:05:52.748 --> 00:05:53.928 Matt: No, not pizza this, Friday. 00:05:53.928 --> 00:05:56.648 Unless they do some sort of deconstructed pizza. 00:05:56.672 --> 00:05:57.198 Alison: All right. 00:05:57.438 --> 00:06:01.788 I, this is shocking, but you know, your Friday night hyper fixation 00:06:01.788 --> 00:06:04.068 meal is not on for the night. 00:06:04.068 --> 00:06:08.838 And, uh, so I'm, here's, here's what I don't normally have pizza on Friday. 00:06:09.498 --> 00:06:12.348 I normally have pizza on Tuesday when I play trivia and my favorite 00:06:12.348 --> 00:06:15.318 pizza place delivers to the bar where I play that's my hyper fixation, 00:06:15.318 --> 00:06:16.428 but I didn't do that this week. 00:06:16.638 --> 00:06:20.298 So I'll have pizza tonight in your and Lindsay's honor. 00:06:20.413 --> 00:06:21.603 Matt: So thank you, Alison. 00:06:22.068 --> 00:06:22.638 Alison: There it is. 00:06:22.863 --> 00:06:23.793 Matt: That's perfect. 00:06:24.018 --> 00:06:25.638 Alison: The circle of friendship continues. 00:06:25.683 --> 00:06:27.953 Matt: That's what friends are for! 00:06:28.768 --> 00:06:29.008 Alison: Yep. 00:06:31.645 --> 00:06:32.485 Why are we the way that we 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:33.520 Matt: I don't know, man. 00:06:33.520 --> 00:06:34.900 I was just thinking the same thing. 00:06:35.270 --> 00:06:37.360 Why, why, why, why, why? 00:06:37.690 --> 00:06:39.640 Um, so how are you? 00:06:40.585 --> 00:06:41.185 Alison: I'm good. 00:06:41.230 --> 00:06:41.860 Matt: Okay, good. 00:06:42.355 --> 00:06:43.225 Alison: I'm in Atlanta. 00:06:43.225 --> 00:06:48.145 I am hanging with, with, uh, some, some Biv pets, two, two cats and a dog. 00:06:48.775 --> 00:06:53.185 I get to see my parents tomorrow cuz they are, they live in Birmingham, Alabama. 00:06:53.185 --> 00:06:55.225 So they're gonna drive the two hours over to see me. 00:06:55.450 --> 00:06:56.050 Matt: Joanne. 00:06:56.050 --> 00:06:57.390 And uh, not David. 00:06:57.855 --> 00:06:58.155 Alison: Yeah, 00:06:58.440 --> 00:06:58.980 Matt: It is David. 00:06:58.980 --> 00:06:59.280 Okay. 00:06:59.310 --> 00:06:59.640 Wow. 00:06:59.640 --> 00:07:00.090 I did it. 00:07:00.090 --> 00:07:00.240 Woo. 00:07:01.115 --> 00:07:01.335 Alison: Yay. 00:07:01.610 --> 00:07:06.170 Um, and then next week I get to see you and Fitz there's our Fitz mention for the 00:07:06.170 --> 00:07:07.950 Matt: There's a Fitz mention, check, ding! 00:07:07.970 --> 00:07:10.610 We should have like a, oh, not, that's not the right one. 00:07:11.540 --> 00:07:12.180 There it is. 00:07:12.210 --> 00:07:12.540 That's 00:07:13.610 --> 00:07:14.600 Alison: That's Fitz effect. 00:07:14.630 --> 00:07:14.900 Matt: Yeah. 00:07:15.230 --> 00:07:16.030 The Fitz Effect.. 00:07:18.590 --> 00:07:19.250 Alison: It's perfect. 00:07:19.250 --> 00:07:20.270 It's beautiful. 00:07:20.330 --> 00:07:21.260 It's inspired. 00:07:21.260 --> 00:07:22.700 Matt: That's better than the record scratch. 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:24.020 Alison: Yeah. 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:24.890 Yeah. 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:27.020 Matt: So weird. 00:07:28.010 --> 00:07:29.820 Alison: You wanna, uh, you wanna roll some d100s? 00:07:29.840 --> 00:07:31.260 Matt: Yes, man. 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:33.460 Yes. 00:07:33.490 --> 00:07:34.370 Alison: Let's do it! 00:07:34.650 --> 00:07:35.070 All right. 00:07:35.090 --> 00:07:35.390 Alright. 00:07:35.395 --> 00:07:35.480 all. 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:36.260 all, all. 00:07:37.130 --> 00:07:37.420 Okay. 00:07:37.450 --> 00:07:37.740 Okay. 00:07:37.740 --> 00:07:37.940 Okay. 00:07:37.940 --> 00:07:38.180 Okay. 00:07:38.185 --> 00:07:38.540 Okay. 00:07:39.140 --> 00:07:40.610 You wanna tell me your number? 00:07:41.030 --> 00:07:44.270 Matt: My number is my number is 71. 00:07:45.158 --> 00:07:53.108 Alison: Um, oh, I'm so happy to ask you this question, cuz it feeds into 00:07:53.108 --> 00:07:56.378 something that we've talked about multiple times now on this very podcast. 00:07:56.663 --> 00:07:57.743 Matt: Yes. 00:07:57.758 --> 00:08:01.478 Alison: What is the most likely thing to distract you during 00:08:01.478 --> 00:08:03.338 combat when it isn't your turn? 00:08:03.583 --> 00:08:06.623 Matt: Um, my own, my own stuff. 00:08:06.623 --> 00:08:13.277 Like, I, I feel like so Evan, my brother really never plays, spell casters. 00:08:13.802 --> 00:08:14.222 Alison: Mm-hmm 00:08:14.387 --> 00:08:16.217 Matt: And I, I like a mix. 00:08:16.267 --> 00:08:17.557 I like spells. 00:08:18.302 --> 00:08:18.722 Alison: Mm-hmm 00:08:19.450 --> 00:08:25.985 Matt: There are a lot of spells and because I don't play as much as I DM. 00:08:26.035 --> 00:08:27.835 I don't really know what the spells do. 00:08:28.595 --> 00:08:30.235 I really don't know what they do. 00:08:31.165 --> 00:08:33.565 I'm always having to ask y'all what does that do again? 00:08:33.685 --> 00:08:34.795 What does that, I have no idea. 00:08:34.795 --> 00:08:41.275 I really like, I have not had the sit down and study 5e spells thing, 00:08:41.815 --> 00:08:46.315 so I kind of just spend all like looking and reading all the spells 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:48.565 that I've haphazardly chosen. 00:08:50.045 --> 00:08:53.855 And then someone's like, um, alright Matt, your turn. 00:08:53.855 --> 00:08:55.175 I'm like, damn it. 00:08:55.175 --> 00:08:56.135 I have no idea. 00:08:56.345 --> 00:08:58.265 So I would, is that a fair answer? 00:08:58.265 --> 00:08:59.105 Spells. 00:08:59.555 --> 00:09:03.725 Alison: Yeah, you need to not, you need to not play a character that 00:09:03.785 --> 00:09:08.765 gets to pick spells daily, you know, like don't, don't go druid or wizard 00:09:08.885 --> 00:09:12.065 because then that's just gonna add more chaos to an already fueled time. 00:09:12.515 --> 00:09:14.975 Um, just make sure that you, you know, play your little sorcerer. 00:09:14.975 --> 00:09:16.925 You did bard, warlock, all those. 00:09:16.985 --> 00:09:19.415 Matt: I got to, I got to know, I got to know the bards. 00:09:20.345 --> 00:09:23.225 I got to know Feilimid's spells pretty well, but yeah. 00:09:23.375 --> 00:09:24.605 Alison: I'm the opposite of Evan. 00:09:24.610 --> 00:09:26.735 I only play casters. 00:09:26.795 --> 00:09:30.605 Um, I will give the good listeners of ADHd20 plus you 00:09:30.605 --> 00:09:32.645 a little insider information. 00:09:32.645 --> 00:09:35.345 I have decided on the next character that I will roll up. 00:09:36.115 --> 00:09:38.585 It is specifically not a caster. 00:09:40.055 --> 00:09:44.125 Sounds really more like a fart than a record scratch, but I digress. 00:09:44.495 --> 00:09:44.915 Matt: Sorry. 00:09:45.035 --> 00:09:47.165 Hands off, hands off the sound machines. 00:09:47.195 --> 00:09:47.475 Okay. 00:09:48.275 --> 00:09:51.995 Alison: Um, I would like to play, this is probably going 00:09:51.995 --> 00:09:54.145 to surprise you an Echo Knight. 00:09:54.635 --> 00:09:56.735 Matt: Oh, that does surprise me. 00:09:57.015 --> 00:09:59.925 Alison: I decided I, I played a one shot a couple weeks ago with 00:09:59.930 --> 00:10:04.095 a Rune Knight and, and that took me down a path of, of how are you 00:10:04.095 --> 00:10:05.475 doing all of these wonderful things. 00:10:05.475 --> 00:10:09.105 And then I just started, I got into like my little hyper fixation hole, where 00:10:09.105 --> 00:10:12.795 I started to read all the different paths you can take as a fighter. 00:10:13.185 --> 00:10:16.045 And I was like, why have I been sleeping on Echo Knights? 00:10:16.065 --> 00:10:17.265 So now I really wanna. 00:10:17.925 --> 00:10:23.835 Yeah, well, I, you basically can, can push a, a whisper of yourself and echo off 00:10:23.835 --> 00:10:29.355 of your body and place it strategically around in combat or otherwise. 00:10:29.685 --> 00:10:33.825 Um, and do some pretty tricked out stuff with it. 00:10:33.945 --> 00:10:34.565 Matt: That's fun. 00:10:34.992 --> 00:10:36.042 That's really fun. 00:10:36.702 --> 00:10:37.692 Uh, I love it. 00:10:38.802 --> 00:10:40.782 Uh, yes, your 00:10:41.592 --> 00:10:45.912 Alison: I rolled a 50, 50 years old. 00:10:45.942 --> 00:10:46.162 Matt: uh, 00:10:48.342 --> 00:10:50.952 Alison: I'm a kick and stretch 00:10:51.117 --> 00:10:51.507 Matt: And, 00:10:52.302 --> 00:10:52.482 Alison: kick, 00:10:55.257 --> 00:10:57.987 Matt: What movie have you watched the most times? 00:11:00.512 --> 00:11:04.872 Alison: Probably Monty Python and the Holy Grail, followed closely 00:11:04.877 --> 00:11:06.102 by 10 Things I Hate About You. 00:11:07.161 --> 00:11:08.841 Matt: I don't think I knew about those things. 00:11:08.931 --> 00:11:10.581 I don't think I knew that at all about you. 00:11:10.671 --> 00:11:12.231 I would've chosen a Disney movie. 00:11:13.641 --> 00:11:17.361 Alison: Um, I mean, if we count like all the times as a child, I probably 00:11:17.361 --> 00:11:20.961 watched The Little Mermaid, but Disney movies now, like I'll watch 00:11:20.961 --> 00:11:25.371 'em once some of the really good ones, like I think I watched Moana, uh, 00:11:25.401 --> 00:11:27.441 three or four times maybe, but no. 00:11:27.641 --> 00:11:30.231 Monty Python is one I can turn on anytime, anywhere. 00:11:30.741 --> 00:11:32.241 I have most of it memorized. 00:11:32.391 --> 00:11:35.601 Um, mm-hmm, , that's been my favorite movie. 00:11:35.601 --> 00:11:37.041 Since like junior high. 00:11:37.251 --> 00:11:38.271 Matt: Wow. 00:11:38.781 --> 00:11:39.471 Okay. 00:11:39.476 --> 00:11:39.801 Wow. 00:11:39.801 --> 00:11:40.761 That is interesting. 00:11:40.761 --> 00:11:42.201 I did not know that. 00:11:42.771 --> 00:11:43.551 Alison: I'm like an onion. 00:11:43.551 --> 00:11:44.871 You gotta peel those layers back. 00:11:44.931 --> 00:11:45.351 Matt: True. 00:11:45.441 --> 00:11:46.341 It is so true. 00:11:47.031 --> 00:11:47.481 Wow. 00:11:47.571 --> 00:11:48.051 I love it. 00:11:48.231 --> 00:11:49.011 Well, what are we talking? 00:11:49.021 --> 00:11:49.461 What are we? 00:11:49.891 --> 00:11:52.701 Yeah, what are we gonna talk about today? 00:11:53.196 --> 00:11:54.426 Alison: What kind of topics do we like? 00:11:54.486 --> 00:11:58.926 Um, so , it was funny cuz Matt and I were trying to decide if 00:11:58.926 --> 00:12:00.816 we should do a podcast today. 00:12:01.356 --> 00:12:04.146 And I said, well, do we, do we have anything to talk about? 00:12:04.151 --> 00:12:07.296 And he was like, well, one, we always have something to talk 00:12:07.611 --> 00:12:08.241 Matt: Yeah, we do. 00:12:08.506 --> 00:12:12.246 Alison: Two, we have this list that we've been maintaining of, you 00:12:12.246 --> 00:12:15.606 know, things that have either fallen off of our radar from our outlines 00:12:15.606 --> 00:12:16.806 or just, oh, this is a good idea. 00:12:16.806 --> 00:12:17.856 We should do this. 00:12:18.276 --> 00:12:22.656 And I tell you what, it was another example of object permanence in my life. 00:12:22.656 --> 00:12:26.166 Because as we pulled up this list that we ourselves with our own little 00:12:26.166 --> 00:12:32.196 fingertips tipity type type tapped, it was like a brand new discovery as we went 00:12:32.196 --> 00:12:34.896 through this list, which is ridiculous. 00:12:35.541 --> 00:12:35.661 Matt: it's 00:12:35.676 --> 00:12:37.116 Alison: Um, I love it. 00:12:37.146 --> 00:12:37.806 I love it. 00:12:37.896 --> 00:12:39.576 Uh, a good kind of ridiculous. 00:12:39.576 --> 00:12:47.541 So what we selected today, Is, uh, building on building your perfect party. 00:12:47.931 --> 00:12:52.161 We thought it would be cool to talk up through the, the stereotypes that are 00:12:52.166 --> 00:12:58.761 in most given groups of friends and, and think about how, you know, Matt and I have 00:12:58.791 --> 00:13:03.291 have hand selected, have chosen people to be in our camp and to fight through 00:13:03.296 --> 00:13:05.511 this maze called life with each of us. 00:13:06.081 --> 00:13:09.831 Um, you know, because of something that they brought to the table 00:13:09.861 --> 00:13:13.341 that stood out to us that made us say, yes, you can be in my party. 00:13:13.411 --> 00:13:14.971 Matt: How do we go about doing this? 00:13:14.971 --> 00:13:16.021 I love this idea. 00:13:16.801 --> 00:13:22.591 Um, build your perfect party of, let's say four adventurers. 00:13:23.071 --> 00:13:24.361 Name those classes. 00:13:24.521 --> 00:13:26.351 Do we roll initiative to see who goes first? 00:13:26.351 --> 00:13:26.921 I don't know. 00:13:27.081 --> 00:13:27.331 Cause I 00:13:27.331 --> 00:13:27.551 Alison: I mean, 00:13:27.551 --> 00:13:27.671 Matt: know. 00:13:27.701 --> 00:13:30.026 Alison: always, I always want to roll initiative. 00:13:30.416 --> 00:13:34.046 Well, and it's interesting because I've had people, you know, who hear 00:13:34.051 --> 00:13:37.106 me talk on and on and on about D&D and they wanna play, or they're 00:13:37.106 --> 00:13:40.406 gonna play their first game and they always wanna know where to start. 00:13:40.856 --> 00:13:45.026 And so first of all, read through all of the different classes and 00:13:45.026 --> 00:13:47.576 just see if anything calls to you, which is what I did the very first 00:13:47.576 --> 00:13:48.836 time we decided we were gonna play. 00:13:49.046 --> 00:13:51.806 I read through and Sorcerer immediately stood out to me. 00:13:51.836 --> 00:13:53.426 There was nothing else I wanted to do. 00:13:53.906 --> 00:13:57.026 Um, but then, you know, other people will read through and there might be two, three 00:13:57.026 --> 00:13:58.466 things, you know, calling out to them. 00:13:58.471 --> 00:14:01.556 And so then I say, well, check in with who you're gonna be playing with, 00:14:01.586 --> 00:14:02.996 cuz you want a balanced party, right? 00:14:02.996 --> 00:14:07.556 If everybody is a caster and you have no muscle up front to slam baddies into the 00:14:07.556 --> 00:14:09.446 ground, that's not very helpful, is it? 00:14:09.476 --> 00:14:13.286 Or if everybody's a barbarian, you might need people to stand more to distance 00:14:13.291 --> 00:14:15.606 and you know, buff and stuff like that. 00:14:15.606 --> 00:14:16.236 Side note. 00:14:16.641 --> 00:14:21.021 We did recently do with Tey a barbarian only one shot. 00:14:21.316 --> 00:14:21.536 Matt: Ooh. 00:14:22.161 --> 00:14:23.481 Alison: And it was so ridiculous. 00:14:23.481 --> 00:14:24.291 Amazing, fun. 00:14:24.291 --> 00:14:24.771 Wonderful. 00:14:24.771 --> 00:14:28.041 So for one shots and things like that, you could absolutely all play the same 00:14:28.041 --> 00:14:31.341 thing, but if we're talking campaign, you might wanna balance your efforts. 00:14:31.941 --> 00:14:35.756 So that was the spirit in which we thought about having this topic was like, who, who 00:14:35.756 --> 00:14:38.846 do you want to go on an adventure with? 00:14:39.266 --> 00:14:40.556 What are we rolling initiative for? 00:14:40.976 --> 00:14:42.056 Rolling initiative. 00:14:42.431 --> 00:14:42.971 Matt: I don't know. 00:14:44.022 --> 00:14:44.592 Alison: What'd you get? 00:14:44.847 --> 00:14:45.747 Matt: I got an 11. 00:14:46.302 --> 00:14:47.622 Alison: I got a 16. 00:14:47.682 --> 00:14:48.372 Matt: Nice. 00:14:48.522 --> 00:14:51.372 Well, just thinking like, if, who would want to go first about 00:14:51.372 --> 00:14:54.222 describing the perfect party, right. 00:14:54.227 --> 00:14:58.992 And then, then what we're talking about doing is translating that into life. 00:14:59.772 --> 00:15:04.682 So, there are some basic guidelines that you just went over, which 00:15:04.682 --> 00:15:06.752 is you want to have a balance. 00:15:06.752 --> 00:15:10.732 And that usually kind of touches on the four original classes. 00:15:11.222 --> 00:15:15.332 But I, I feel like you could be a magic user. 00:15:15.332 --> 00:15:16.262 That's what they were called. 00:15:16.562 --> 00:15:17.402 Thief. 00:15:18.092 --> 00:15:19.022 Fighter. 00:15:19.487 --> 00:15:22.825 I mean, you can also kind of think of any, any group, which is what we're 00:15:22.825 --> 00:15:27.280 doing today, which is like, you know, The Breakfast Club, Friends, like all 00:15:27.280 --> 00:15:28.420 the different personalities together. 00:15:28.420 --> 00:15:34.930 But a fighter for, for like raw protection and they call them a tank, sometimes. 00:15:34.930 --> 00:15:38.650 Some fighters are a tank, meaning like they can take the damage. 00:15:38.770 --> 00:15:42.220 You've got usually somebody in the back that has, that is good 00:15:42.220 --> 00:15:44.170 at throwing things in combat. 00:15:44.230 --> 00:15:47.350 You've got a sneaky person that would be a, that would be a thief. 00:15:47.350 --> 00:15:51.100 And then you've got someone who has magic and then a healer is the kind of the, 00:15:51.520 --> 00:15:53.560 the other archetype that you want to. 00:15:53.560 --> 00:15:57.040 So healer, thief, magic user and fighter basically. 00:15:57.280 --> 00:15:57.550 Right. 00:15:58.407 --> 00:16:02.187 But you are saying even more specifically, what are those classes? 00:16:02.817 --> 00:16:04.407 What specifically do you want? 00:16:04.647 --> 00:16:09.207 And so you won initiative, so you get to choose, uh, four adventurers that you 00:16:09.207 --> 00:16:11.271 would have, that you would put together in 00:16:11.805 --> 00:16:15.255 Alison: So I've already spilled the beans on that, that I'm probably 00:16:15.255 --> 00:16:16.755 gonna choose some kind of a caster. 00:16:16.785 --> 00:16:22.475 So in all of the, um, casters I've played, I've been a sorcerer twice. 00:16:23.035 --> 00:16:24.475 I've been a druid once. 00:16:24.505 --> 00:16:27.355 I haven't yet touched wizard or warlock. 00:16:27.355 --> 00:16:32.585 I don't know why, I've seen wizards role played exceptionally well. 00:16:32.615 --> 00:16:36.215 That just intimidates me to have to be the smartest one in the party to come 00:16:36.215 --> 00:16:38.825 up with all of the, the brilliant plans. 00:16:38.942 --> 00:16:41.282 I'm, I'm more of an enforcer than a thinker. 00:16:41.372 --> 00:16:42.032 Usually. 00:16:42.392 --> 00:16:43.142 What about you? 00:16:43.527 --> 00:16:47.249 Matt: I am often drawn to a warlock, because I, like, I like 00:16:47.249 --> 00:16:54.389 the idea of the communication with the being and I like it. 00:16:54.539 --> 00:16:56.459 I like it on a more secular level. 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:56.819 Right? 00:16:56.819 --> 00:17:01.229 Like I, the, the warlocks are not, they are not priests. 00:17:01.229 --> 00:17:02.729 They're not clerics. 00:17:02.734 --> 00:17:03.029 Right? 00:17:03.029 --> 00:17:09.209 They are chosen by this force to be an avatar of sorts. 00:17:09.309 --> 00:17:11.529 I like that element of darkness in there. 00:17:11.619 --> 00:17:15.939 Little bit of little of like, is it, what am I talking to? 00:17:15.939 --> 00:17:17.949 Is this a good thing or a bad thing? 00:17:17.949 --> 00:17:18.249 Or 00:17:19.029 --> 00:17:22.499 Alison: Yeah, you, you do love a, a chosen one storyline. 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:22.789 Don't you? 00:17:22.819 --> 00:17:24.969 Matt: I do love a chosen one storyline man. 00:17:25.249 --> 00:17:25.999 I really do. 00:17:26.339 --> 00:17:26.789 Uh, okay. 00:17:26.794 --> 00:17:27.389 So yes. 00:17:27.809 --> 00:17:30.979 Uh, you, you specifically, number one, you choose sorcerer. 00:17:31.379 --> 00:17:31.859 What else? 00:17:33.284 --> 00:17:35.774 Alison: So I guess, do you just kind of wanna keep going through this in, 00:17:35.774 --> 00:17:37.334 in kind of groups that make sense? 00:17:37.334 --> 00:17:39.794 So like we could, we could talk about the healers. 00:17:39.824 --> 00:17:43.784 Most people think of the, the cleric role when they talk about the healer. 00:17:44.054 --> 00:17:50.054 Um, but bards, druids, even paladins, um, are all, uh, healers in their own way. 00:17:50.054 --> 00:17:53.054 So we'll for the class that we'll call the healers, we'll go how 00:17:53.059 --> 00:17:54.944 his bard cleric and druid sound? 00:17:55.614 --> 00:17:59.480 Now Evan loves to rain down some Druid hate. 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:06.500 And the reason he does is he calls them OP or overpowered. 00:18:06.515 --> 00:18:07.295 Matt: Yeah. 00:18:07.670 --> 00:18:12.410 Alison: He thinks that mechanically, they don't fit with a lot of other parties. 00:18:13.460 --> 00:18:18.260 As someone who now plays a druid, yes, there are big beefy, crazy 00:18:18.265 --> 00:18:20.510 things that I get to do as a druid. 00:18:20.675 --> 00:18:21.035 Matt: Yeah. 00:18:21.620 --> 00:18:23.090 Alison: There are also limitations. 00:18:23.090 --> 00:18:26.780 So druids as the name might suggest, draw their power from nature, 00:18:27.170 --> 00:18:28.880 um, from the world around them. 00:18:29.170 --> 00:18:34.840 So while druids can heal and while their spells do tend to be really fantastic 00:18:34.840 --> 00:18:38.435 areas of effect they can also sometimes be a little bit of one trick ponies. 00:18:38.435 --> 00:18:42.905 You know, I've, I've run into battles before where, you know, if I'm not set up 00:18:42.905 --> 00:18:48.125 in exactly the right way to, to pop off a spell, I'm pretty freaking worthless. 00:18:48.185 --> 00:18:53.505 And I didn't realize this was the case until, uh, in our Thursday 00:18:53.505 --> 00:18:57.405 night game where I play a druid, we did a player versus player battle. 00:18:57.975 --> 00:19:00.885 Um, and Fitz's character. 00:19:00.885 --> 00:19:06.465 I am still bitter about this, who is a monk cleric multi-class. 00:19:07.620 --> 00:19:14.010 Kicked my druid's ass, I mean, to a bloody, pummeled into the ground pulp. 00:19:14.130 --> 00:19:17.135 And there was nothing I could do about it and that's, that's my argument 00:19:17.135 --> 00:19:20.525 for why I don't think that they're overpowered, cuz as far as druids go, 00:19:20.525 --> 00:19:22.205 we don't, you know, we get one attack. 00:19:22.325 --> 00:19:23.675 So you're gonna cast the spell. 00:19:23.945 --> 00:19:28.535 We don't have a lot in the way of bonus actions and reactions. 00:19:29.045 --> 00:19:31.355 And those are all the things that make a complete player, right? 00:19:31.355 --> 00:19:34.685 So maybe you are, you know, you can attack twice or maybe you just have 00:19:34.685 --> 00:19:38.315 some wicked bonus action or if you're a monk, which we'll get to in a minute, 00:19:38.315 --> 00:19:43.115 you have ki points that you can spend for extra, you know, ways to deal and 00:19:43.115 --> 00:19:44.585 buff and just all these different things. 00:19:44.585 --> 00:19:49.055 Whereas druids, you're gonna cast a spell if you hit with it, it's going 00:19:49.055 --> 00:19:50.405 to cause a lot of damage to the end. 00:19:51.095 --> 00:19:53.715 So that's my soapbox on druids. 00:19:54.105 --> 00:19:57.525 Matt: There is one thing though that I'm not as into, 00:19:58.035 --> 00:19:59.415 and it's the wild shape thing. 00:19:59.475 --> 00:20:00.405 I'm not into it. 00:20:00.455 --> 00:20:05.565 To me that is overpower because it is an inherent ability of druids 00:20:05.585 --> 00:20:08.885 to take the form of another animal. 00:20:08.935 --> 00:20:10.735 I wish that it was just a spell. 00:20:10.885 --> 00:20:16.395 That was, that came in their list of spells available to them just because 00:20:16.395 --> 00:20:18.079 it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. 00:20:18.109 --> 00:20:19.369 It really just doesn't make sense. 00:20:19.419 --> 00:20:21.729 Just to turn into an animal is always weird. 00:20:21.849 --> 00:20:25.029 And the problem is, is that they can turn into an animal and then 00:20:25.029 --> 00:20:28.749 they could get beaten up to a pulp and they could actually die. 00:20:28.809 --> 00:20:30.289 And then they come back as druid. 00:20:30.309 --> 00:20:32.829 And they're kind of back to normal in a lot of ways. 00:20:32.829 --> 00:20:36.309 Like, so it's like, it's kind of like having two characters or a 00:20:36.309 --> 00:20:38.889 bunch of extra hit points, which 00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:42.189 Alison: So here's object permanence in play once again. 00:20:42.729 --> 00:20:47.479 I specifically chose druid because we were playing our very first campaign Fitz 00:20:47.479 --> 00:20:52.749 played a druid, and she was a specific subclass circle of the moon where she 00:20:52.749 --> 00:20:54.849 could wild shape as a bonus action. 00:20:55.359 --> 00:21:00.819 And she could also wild shape into very, very, very beefy animals. 00:21:00.919 --> 00:21:04.069 So I chose druid thinking, oh my God, I'm gonna wild shape all 00:21:04.069 --> 00:21:05.539 the time and Fitz had warned me. 00:21:05.544 --> 00:21:07.729 It's basically, it's like you just said, it's a meat suit. 00:21:07.729 --> 00:21:10.549 So, because druids tend to be squishier builds. 00:21:10.549 --> 00:21:11.689 They're not the tanks. 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:15.979 Um, and so I would, I was like, I'm gonna do this all the time. 00:21:15.984 --> 00:21:21.799 I never wild shape as a druid, I can count on one hand the number 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:22.819 of times that I've done it. 00:21:23.179 --> 00:21:24.619 Um, one, I forget about it. 00:21:24.919 --> 00:21:27.199 It's just, you know, woo doesn't exist. 00:21:27.259 --> 00:21:28.609 Um, and two. 00:21:28.984 --> 00:21:32.204 Because I'm circle of the land, druid. 00:21:32.734 --> 00:21:34.744 I have to use my entire action to do it. 00:21:34.749 --> 00:21:38.464 So I have to waste a turn and I don't get, I don't get cool. 00:21:38.464 --> 00:21:40.864 You know, I could go like brown bear, you know, or something like 00:21:40.869 --> 00:21:42.484 that and get additional hit points. 00:21:42.694 --> 00:21:45.424 But usually their AC their armor class is pretty low. 00:21:45.424 --> 00:21:48.844 Like, so it's just not worth wasting a whole turn. 00:21:48.844 --> 00:21:50.974 So I could maul something for a couple turns. 00:21:50.974 --> 00:21:56.344 And then to your point, be poofed back, um, checks and balances, man. 00:21:56.644 --> 00:21:59.494 So that's druids, that's way too long spent on druid's, but it 00:21:59.494 --> 00:21:59.779 Matt: Sorry. 00:21:59.899 --> 00:22:02.369 Yeah, we've got, we've got a sorcerer and we've got a druid. 00:22:02.629 --> 00:22:03.139 What else? 00:22:03.169 --> 00:22:05.749 Alison: So now we'll kind of move into the, you know, some of 00:22:05.749 --> 00:22:09.949 the fighter classes, um, which I guess is really everybody else. 00:22:09.949 --> 00:22:12.559 So we've got barbarian, we've got fighter. 00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:13.489 We've got monk. 00:22:13.489 --> 00:22:14.419 We've got Paladin. 00:22:14.424 --> 00:22:16.279 We've got ranger, we've got rogue. 00:22:16.639 --> 00:22:20.209 Ranger and rogue are kind of in their own little worlds. 00:22:20.299 --> 00:22:23.149 Matt: I mean, they, I, I would say that they're the sneaky they're they? 00:22:23.149 --> 00:22:25.519 Fourth they're the fourth archetype, right? 00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:28.129 There's the fourth, the, the sneakier ones. 00:22:28.129 --> 00:22:31.309 I think bards could also fall into more of a thiefy thing. 00:22:31.789 --> 00:22:36.604 The bards are kind of like jack of all trades master of none. 00:22:36.604 --> 00:22:37.864 And that's the point, 00:22:37.864 --> 00:22:38.630 Alison: Bards, man. 00:22:38.630 --> 00:22:42.260 You get made fun of the most when you're a bard, both party and at a party. 00:22:42.260 --> 00:22:46.744 I remember I was at a real life party and was talking D&D with some guys there. 00:22:47.014 --> 00:22:48.634 And they were like, oh yeah, what do you play? 00:22:48.639 --> 00:22:50.724 And I said, Bard and they were like, yeah, of course you do. 00:22:50.754 --> 00:22:54.114 Like people are so judgemental of bards anyways. 00:22:54.504 --> 00:22:56.034 Um, full of tangents today. 00:22:56.064 --> 00:22:56.334 Okay. 00:22:56.514 --> 00:22:59.994 So I love a paladin. 00:23:00.114 --> 00:23:01.404 I love a paladin. 00:23:01.554 --> 00:23:04.794 It's one of my, that's one of my favorite classes to play, actually. 00:23:05.034 --> 00:23:10.104 Cuz see, I think paladins are OP AF like if, if you wanna 00:23:10.109 --> 00:23:11.514 have a fight about something. 00:23:11.724 --> 00:23:16.454 Because they have spells that they can cast, but because they're a fighter 00:23:16.454 --> 00:23:20.054 class by a certain level, they're gonna get multi attack and then 00:23:20.054 --> 00:23:25.454 they can use their bonus actions to put even more like ass kickery into 00:23:25.454 --> 00:23:26.864 whatever it is that they hit with. 00:23:26.864 --> 00:23:30.704 Like so they can get a obscene number. 00:23:30.764 --> 00:23:34.034 Uh it's it's I mean, they are, they are the Hulk smash for sure. 00:23:34.034 --> 00:23:38.204 So if I'm gonna choose a tank, I'm probably gonna choose a paladin 00:23:38.594 --> 00:23:40.424 over a barbarian or a fighter. 00:23:40.474 --> 00:23:44.464 Matt: One thing that I deeply love about 5e is that they 00:23:44.464 --> 00:23:46.834 changed the rules over the years. 00:23:47.554 --> 00:23:50.794 Originally, paladins were only lawful good. 00:23:51.094 --> 00:23:55.924 They were only good guys, or they could be anti-paladins, which were only evil. 00:23:55.954 --> 00:24:01.264 And, and I love how they've just softened on that whole thing to where 00:24:01.984 --> 00:24:03.934 it's not about being good or bad. 00:24:03.934 --> 00:24:08.464 It's about paladins are basically the obsessive compulsives right. 00:24:08.464 --> 00:24:15.034 They are the ones that are just so hyper focused on something 00:24:15.034 --> 00:24:18.154 that gives them a reason to live. 00:24:18.464 --> 00:24:20.294 it doesn't, it has nothing to do with being good or bad. 00:24:20.294 --> 00:24:21.584 So I love, I love that. 00:24:21.584 --> 00:24:22.454 And so yeah, I agree. 00:24:22.484 --> 00:24:23.354 Paladins are amazing. 00:24:23.594 --> 00:24:23.864 Sorry. 00:24:23.879 --> 00:24:26.189 Alison: And I think that they're one of the most underrated classes. 00:24:26.189 --> 00:24:29.999 I think when people like, think of D&D they don't immediately think of paladins. 00:24:30.004 --> 00:24:30.334 So. 00:24:30.574 --> 00:24:33.784 Alright, so I've got sorcerer, I've got druid, I've got paladin. 00:24:34.304 --> 00:24:38.294 The one I am never, ever drawn to is ranger. 00:24:38.294 --> 00:24:40.544 So they're just automatically kicked off my list. 00:24:41.054 --> 00:24:43.994 Um, it would probably be rogue. 00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:46.949 Because rogues are just, they're so versatile and there's so 00:24:46.949 --> 00:24:50.879 many different ways that you can flavor a rogue and they're equally 00:24:50.879 --> 00:24:53.729 beneficial, both in and out of combat. 00:24:53.729 --> 00:24:58.349 Like if your party has a rogue you're gonna be doing and coming up with cool 00:24:58.349 --> 00:25:03.039 things in all of your role playing, not just when you're rolling initiative. 00:25:03.349 --> 00:25:03.619 Matt: Okay. 00:25:04.639 --> 00:25:04.969 All right. 00:25:05.419 --> 00:25:06.379 My turn, I guess. 00:25:06.514 --> 00:25:07.504 Alison: Yeah. 00:25:07.699 --> 00:25:08.119 Matt: All right. 00:25:08.129 --> 00:25:13.349 So I think warlock for me would be the magic user, be the spellcaster. 00:25:13.979 --> 00:25:15.599 I also love this concept of that. 00:25:15.659 --> 00:25:19.029 They're not fighters, but they, they're charismatic. 00:25:19.479 --> 00:25:23.439 They don't have like the list of spells isn't as large for them, but they have a 00:25:23.444 --> 00:25:29.409 few like built in cool kind of combat-y things that I always think of fun. 00:25:30.349 --> 00:25:30.569 Alison: Mm. 00:25:30.999 --> 00:25:37.379 Matt: I am going to choose the much aligned bard. 00:25:37.809 --> 00:25:42.482 And I, I choose bard because I am Jack of all trades, master of none. 00:25:42.542 --> 00:25:43.502 That's my life. 00:25:43.502 --> 00:25:44.282 I get it. 00:25:44.342 --> 00:25:46.142 It feels correct. 00:25:46.262 --> 00:25:49.552 So probably I would end up being the bard in this group but like 00:25:49.552 --> 00:25:54.862 the bard can heal and the bard can sneak and the bard can fight. 00:25:54.862 --> 00:25:59.382 I would almost argue that if there was an OP class, it might be bard 00:25:59.572 --> 00:26:05.112 because it's just so many directions which is actually kind of cool because 00:26:05.172 --> 00:26:06.582 it didn't even exist originally. 00:26:06.582 --> 00:26:06.882 Right? 00:26:06.882 --> 00:26:12.072 The, the idea of a traveling minstrel that has, uh, a focus. 00:26:12.342 --> 00:26:14.142 Minstrel doesn't have to be music. 00:26:14.147 --> 00:26:18.552 It could be, you know, theater or, or poetry or something, but some 00:26:18.552 --> 00:26:22.902 kind of artist that then takes that art can channel it into a 00:26:22.902 --> 00:26:25.002 magical thing, which is amazing. 00:26:25.032 --> 00:26:26.592 What are you laughing at? 00:26:27.222 --> 00:26:27.852 Oh God. 00:26:28.769 --> 00:26:30.689 Alison: The bard is the ultimate hipster. 00:26:30.869 --> 00:26:32.199 Of course you would choose that! 00:26:32.199 --> 00:26:37.499 You're sitting here talking about all the different artisanal 00:26:37.499 --> 00:26:39.749 things that the bard does! 00:26:39.919 --> 00:26:41.369 Matt: Oh no, no. 00:26:41.489 --> 00:26:44.069 Alison: and before anybody did them here, 00:26:50.161 --> 00:26:51.701 Matt: Why Cthulu? 00:26:52.021 --> 00:26:54.901 Um, yeah, I guess you're right. 00:26:54.961 --> 00:26:55.471 That's fine. 00:26:55.501 --> 00:26:56.011 I get it. 00:26:56.041 --> 00:26:56.581 It's fun. 00:26:56.761 --> 00:27:02.809 Um, alright, I'm gonna keep going down a path of, oddity. 00:27:03.149 --> 00:27:04.549 I'm gonna go ranger. 00:27:04.985 --> 00:27:05.345 Alison: Interesting. 00:27:05.420 --> 00:27:06.260 Matt: I'll tell you why. 00:27:06.260 --> 00:27:07.220 And I, I agreed. 00:27:07.460 --> 00:27:09.860 I, I thought that I had agreed with you before. 00:27:10.460 --> 00:27:17.360 I think that the original 5e from the player's handbook was definitely not 00:27:17.365 --> 00:27:26.330 much to talk about, but I think in subsequent additions to the game, uh, 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:31.400 I think the ranger, you could build a really, really interesting, cool 00:27:31.640 --> 00:27:39.357 character that is, good with a, a sword is great, with a bow and arrow. 00:27:39.841 --> 00:27:46.921 Has the kind of, a lot of the necessary nature things that a druid would give you. 00:27:47.851 --> 00:27:52.231 Tracking and some of the roguey sneaky stuff. 00:27:53.471 --> 00:27:53.831 Wow. 00:27:54.071 --> 00:28:00.377 Every single one of these so far is like, just sort of middle of the road, very... 00:28:00.674 --> 00:28:04.164 I like the idea of characters that, of classes that just 00:28:04.164 --> 00:28:06.594 kind of can jump to different, 00:28:07.634 --> 00:28:11.544 Alison: So while while the rest of us are out here trying to pick out 00:28:11.549 --> 00:28:14.724 like a balanced party, you are trying to pick out party members that are 00:28:14.724 --> 00:28:16.734 balanced is what you're telling me. 00:28:18.774 --> 00:28:20.334 Matt: Yes, I think so. 00:28:20.394 --> 00:28:21.264 I think so. 00:28:21.534 --> 00:28:22.494 And isn't that interesting? 00:28:22.494 --> 00:28:25.314 And I love that that is a difference of us because what do you think 00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:26.964 would be the last one in that case? 00:28:28.464 --> 00:28:32.194 Alison: Uh, I, Hmm. 00:28:33.054 --> 00:28:33.594 Matt: I'll give you a hand. 00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:37.644 These are, these are all characters that I'm, that I'm drawn to, to 00:28:37.644 --> 00:28:40.414 play when I very rarely play, but. 00:28:41.481 --> 00:28:41.771 Alison: Okay. 00:28:41.861 --> 00:28:46.781 So then what were gonna be, my choices wouldn't make sense there. 00:28:46.881 --> 00:28:49.461 What, the only other one that you've played with me is wizard. 00:28:49.761 --> 00:28:50.561 Matt: An artificer. 00:28:51.266 --> 00:28:55.686 Artificer is, is a kind of new class and I, I mean, just, I'm always gonna 00:28:55.686 --> 00:29:02.826 go there because it is this really fascinating class that combines technology 00:29:02.856 --> 00:29:11.016 and magic and fighting ability and Iron Man's armor and, uh, tinkerers. 00:29:11.076 --> 00:29:13.146 And so, yeah. 00:29:13.716 --> 00:29:13.936 Um. 00:29:14.716 --> 00:29:17.176 Alison: I'm sitting here staring at the list of 12 that I made 00:29:17.266 --> 00:29:18.406 and it's not on that list. 00:29:18.406 --> 00:29:20.416 So therefore it did not exist to me at that moment. 00:29:22.516 --> 00:29:23.536 But you're totally right. 00:29:23.536 --> 00:29:26.906 You are absolutely in real life, the artificer of the group, you, 00:29:26.986 --> 00:29:30.406 you have played an artificer and brilliantly might I add? 00:29:30.406 --> 00:29:30.826 Yes. 00:29:30.856 --> 00:29:34.876 So that makes perfect sense that you were drawn to that one to round out your party. 00:29:35.086 --> 00:29:38.626 Matt: That party that I just described, those four people, the artificer, the 00:29:38.626 --> 00:29:43.396 warlock, the ranger, and the bard that I wanna play that so bad right now. 00:29:43.396 --> 00:29:50.112 I wanna see, I wanna see that adventure unfold because what a fascinating... 00:29:50.202 --> 00:29:54.732 they've all got their own weird things. 00:29:54.732 --> 00:29:59.032 Like the bard would be obsessed with whatever their art is. 00:29:59.032 --> 00:30:02.392 The, the ranger is obsessed with nature. 00:30:02.422 --> 00:30:07.162 Probably the warlock is obsessed with whatever thing is talking to them. 00:30:07.252 --> 00:30:10.362 And then the artificer is obsessed with all of its little gear, 00:30:10.562 --> 00:30:13.222 Alison: What it's trying to build what it wants to tinker with. 00:30:13.252 --> 00:30:16.432 Matt: So much drama, so much drama possible at that. 00:30:16.642 --> 00:30:21.322 So, so much role playing ability, but we would probably 00:30:21.322 --> 00:30:22.642 get creamed in most combats. 00:30:22.642 --> 00:30:23.032 You're right. 00:30:23.412 --> 00:30:23.832 Alison: Mm-hmm 00:30:24.202 --> 00:30:24.652 Matt: That's me. 00:30:24.702 --> 00:30:25.122 Okay. 00:30:25.712 --> 00:30:28.532 So that is our, that is our perfect parties, which I think 00:30:28.562 --> 00:30:31.292 are both extremely valid. 00:30:32.522 --> 00:30:35.522 And then how do you translate that into life? 00:30:35.527 --> 00:30:36.632 Who is in your party? 00:30:36.632 --> 00:30:38.102 What are their roles? 00:30:38.573 --> 00:30:40.583 Alison: So do you want me to read through the, the kind of 00:30:40.923 --> 00:30:42.613 stereotypes that I came up with? 00:30:43.268 --> 00:30:43.718 Matt: Love that. 00:30:43.816 --> 00:30:47.836 Alison: This is purely subjective, but, um, this is what I called them. 00:30:47.836 --> 00:30:50.326 We'll, we'll kind of dash through this and, and talk through 00:30:50.326 --> 00:30:51.196 what some of these might mean. 00:30:51.196 --> 00:30:54.616 So in most friend groups, you have The Party Animal. 00:30:54.646 --> 00:30:58.426 So the person who is just hyper-focused a lot of time on, you know, not here 00:30:58.426 --> 00:30:59.776 for a long time, but a good time. 00:31:00.379 --> 00:31:04.749 I feel like every friend group has what I have called The Eeyore, the, the 00:31:04.749 --> 00:31:09.909 pessimist, the Negative Nancy, just the one who is constantly shooting stuff down. 00:31:10.269 --> 00:31:12.489 Um, we have The Class Clown. 00:31:12.766 --> 00:31:14.626 We have The Hot Mess Express. 00:31:14.626 --> 00:31:17.986 The one whose life is just never together, whether they're like having 00:31:17.986 --> 00:31:21.826 to bum money or rides or, you know, like need to call you at 8:00 AM, cuz 00:31:21.826 --> 00:31:23.116 their relationship just fell apart. 00:31:23.116 --> 00:31:24.556 We all have 'em we all love them. 00:31:25.126 --> 00:31:27.946 Uh, we have The Caretaker, which is the group mom or dad. 00:31:27.946 --> 00:31:31.096 So the one that carries the big bag and always has whatever you need in it. 00:31:31.096 --> 00:31:33.526 And is, you know, kind of the first one that you call in a crisis. 00:31:34.061 --> 00:31:35.861 We have The Artistic One, right? 00:31:35.861 --> 00:31:38.471 Every friend group has somebody who's just ridiculously good 00:31:38.471 --> 00:31:40.511 at something or lots of things. 00:31:41.021 --> 00:31:43.721 Um, the next one I've called The Communications Director. 00:31:43.751 --> 00:31:46.601 They're usually the ones who started the group and who are the ones that are like 00:31:46.661 --> 00:31:49.331 responsible for starting the group text. 00:31:49.331 --> 00:31:50.291 Where are we having dinner? 00:31:50.291 --> 00:31:50.981 What are we doing? 00:31:50.981 --> 00:31:52.631 These are the ideas, things like that. 00:31:53.111 --> 00:31:56.351 Um, you can guess which one, I think you are, there's one called The Techy One, 00:31:56.351 --> 00:32:00.251 which is just, they're always on the forefront of whatever is new and sexy. 00:32:00.701 --> 00:32:04.061 Um, you have The Floater or the absent one who like you see 'em when you 00:32:04.061 --> 00:32:07.031 see 'em and sometimes you don't see 'em for a, a long, long period of 00:32:07.031 --> 00:32:08.656 time and they seem great with that. 00:32:08.706 --> 00:32:14.720 Um, you have The Flirt, um, someone who's just always head over heels 00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:17.390 for somebody and probably a different one every time you talk to them. 00:32:17.515 --> 00:32:17.805 Matt: Yeah. 00:32:18.410 --> 00:32:21.710 Alison: You have The Oracle, which is who you go to for the sage wisdom and 00:32:21.710 --> 00:32:23.570 advice, your unofficial life coach. 00:32:23.905 --> 00:32:24.965 Matt: The Old Soul. 00:32:25.520 --> 00:32:26.930 Alison: Yeah, the old soul. 00:32:28.220 --> 00:32:32.180 And for the last one, I kind of went back and forth like, you know, cuz we have 00:32:32.185 --> 00:32:34.730 very stereotypical ones like the jock. 00:32:34.790 --> 00:32:38.120 And so I think The Fanatic can kind of fit a lot of those roles. 00:32:38.120 --> 00:32:43.430 So somebody who is deep into whatever their thing is, whether 00:32:43.430 --> 00:32:46.940 it's something that they enjoy from the sidelines or actually actively 00:32:47.270 --> 00:32:48.950 participating in themselves. 00:32:49.125 --> 00:32:49.485 Matt: Interesting. 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:54.000 Alison: So that according to Alison are the 12 friend group stereotypes 00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:56.085 Matt: You are incredibly good at this. 00:32:56.505 --> 00:33:04.800 When is your reboot of any of, uh, John Hughes movies coming out? 00:33:04.800 --> 00:33:06.570 Alison: Oh my God. 00:33:08.810 --> 00:33:12.740 Other than playing Dungeons & Dragons, you've like tapped into one of the only 00:33:12.740 --> 00:33:14.150 other things I would rather be doing. 00:33:14.150 --> 00:33:15.170 If I could do anything. 00:33:15.170 --> 00:33:20.370 So, I mean, I think you were even kind of doing this, whether you meant to do it. 00:33:20.390 --> 00:33:21.670 Matt: I know I noticed that! 00:33:21.670 --> 00:33:26.123 Alison: As you were like talking through, you know, the different D&D classes, 00:33:26.123 --> 00:33:30.383 cuz you know, like, you know, the barbarian could be The Fanatic, right? 00:33:30.383 --> 00:33:32.273 Like they could be the ones of just are. 00:33:32.633 --> 00:33:33.473 Matt: Or the paladin. 00:33:34.103 --> 00:33:36.953 Alison: Or the paladin who are, you know, tunnel vision about the things. 00:33:36.953 --> 00:33:42.503 The artificer is I think The Techy One, um, you know, I think, I think that the 00:33:42.503 --> 00:33:45.473 Bard, the bard could be a lot of these things, which is exactly what you were 00:33:45.473 --> 00:33:49.463 saying about the bard, because they're so, you know, multi talented, they could 00:33:49.463 --> 00:33:52.223 be The Artistic One, but they could also be The Communications Director, the ones 00:33:52.223 --> 00:33:53.723 that started all, they could be The Flirt. 00:33:54.533 --> 00:33:56.273 Um, yeah. 00:33:56.303 --> 00:33:57.443 So these, these could all go. 00:33:57.443 --> 00:33:57.963 So we're not 00:33:57.963 --> 00:33:58.263 Matt: The Class 00:33:58.263 --> 00:33:58.493 Alison: like, 00:33:59.213 --> 00:34:01.253 Matt: You've this is, this is amazing. 00:34:01.253 --> 00:34:01.943 I love this. 00:34:02.483 --> 00:34:03.263 Oh my gosh. 00:34:03.268 --> 00:34:03.683 I love this. 00:34:03.743 --> 00:34:06.713 Alison: I, I tend to think of the rogue as The Class Clown, but that may be 00:34:06.713 --> 00:34:08.393 just cuz of the way I play my rogue. 00:34:08.453 --> 00:34:11.843 So I could be in very like tunnel vision there. 00:34:12.463 --> 00:34:14.203 I mean, we have the 12 friend group stereotypes. 00:34:14.203 --> 00:34:15.343 We have the 12 D&D classes. 00:34:15.883 --> 00:34:18.043 There's a bunch of different ways that these could be played. 00:34:18.043 --> 00:34:23.413 I'm thinking about my major friend group in Charlotte and checking off all of these 00:34:23.418 --> 00:34:26.113 boxes and how, how we all came together. 00:34:26.443 --> 00:34:29.983 But then I'm even thinking about like you and me and Evan and Fitz and like 00:34:29.983 --> 00:34:36.043 our little, you know, uh, IRL D&D party, like which roles we all fit into. 00:34:36.043 --> 00:34:36.883 Matt: So what's your party. 00:34:37.054 --> 00:34:37.924 Alison: What is my party? 00:34:37.984 --> 00:34:39.184 Why don't you go first this time. 00:34:39.409 --> 00:34:39.739 Matt: All right. 00:34:39.754 --> 00:34:40.084 Alison: about it? 00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:40.849 Matt: Yeah. 00:34:41.059 --> 00:34:45.139 I'll tell you what I would not take, but I have in, in my life, which 00:34:45.144 --> 00:34:48.699 is I've, I've really worked hard to kind of not invite this one to the 00:34:48.699 --> 00:34:50.769 party as much is The Hot Mess Express. 00:34:50.859 --> 00:34:52.989 That used to be my go-to. 00:34:53.049 --> 00:34:55.419 There was always a Hot Mess Express. 00:34:55.509 --> 00:35:03.589 I was either dating them or they were around, or I craved the chaos, the crazy 00:35:03.594 --> 00:35:05.479 making that they brought to my life. 00:35:05.479 --> 00:35:08.379 Alison: But you, know that I am the Hot Mess Express, right? 00:35:09.534 --> 00:35:12.204 Matt: No, no, no, definitely not. 00:35:12.286 --> 00:35:12.626 no, no. 00:35:12.631 --> 00:35:14.496 I'm talking about real hot mess. 00:35:14.496 --> 00:35:21.906 I mean like, like making things difficult for everyone all the time and I've had a 00:35:21.906 --> 00:35:23.706 lot, I've had a lot of friends like that. 00:35:23.706 --> 00:35:24.126 Alison: Mm-hmm 00:35:24.241 --> 00:35:29.881 Matt: So my four would be The Caretaker. 00:35:30.756 --> 00:35:31.176 Alison: Mm-hmm 00:35:31.471 --> 00:35:36.631 Matt: Cuz I, I do, I do find that that whether or not you agree with why their 00:35:36.631 --> 00:35:38.581 caretaking, they do come in handy. 00:35:38.708 --> 00:35:39.878 The Techy One of course. 00:35:39.878 --> 00:35:40.568 I mean, you're right. 00:35:40.568 --> 00:35:44.288 I currently in my life time, I would probably be The Techy One 00:35:45.008 --> 00:35:49.178 more now than maybe in the past, but definitely The Techy One. 00:35:49.748 --> 00:35:52.868 Uh, I like the idea of having The Flirt though. 00:35:53.498 --> 00:35:56.048 And I'm talking functionality wise, right? 00:35:56.048 --> 00:36:00.098 Like I'm talking like I like the idea of having somebody that 00:36:00.098 --> 00:36:03.908 has that ability, that power of charm that they could utilize. 00:36:04.148 --> 00:36:07.758 I think that's, I think that's important in a friend group, especially again, 00:36:07.758 --> 00:36:09.458 if they're on your side, right? 00:36:09.458 --> 00:36:09.848 Like. 00:36:10.253 --> 00:36:10.823 All these people. 00:36:10.823 --> 00:36:13.253 If they're, if, if we are friends and we're working together, 00:36:13.253 --> 00:36:14.003 I think that's important. 00:36:14.003 --> 00:36:16.703 So Techy One, Flirt, Caretaker. 00:36:16.703 --> 00:36:23.496 And then I like maybe the Oracle, I don't know. 00:36:24.666 --> 00:36:28.716 Uh, but I ironically I need The Communications Director 00:36:29.316 --> 00:36:31.266 in my life, so, okay. 00:36:31.271 --> 00:36:36.996 I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna back away from Oracle again, trying to be me in 2022. 00:36:37.596 --> 00:36:39.186 Let's go with those four. 00:36:40.071 --> 00:36:41.211 Alison: Interestingly enough... 00:36:41.301 --> 00:36:47.211 I, I, I thought you were gonna say The Artistic One, which if I had to 00:36:47.211 --> 00:36:51.861 look down this list and pick four for you, I think that you might be in my 00:36:51.861 --> 00:36:57.771 life, The Techy One, The Caretaker, The Flirty One and The Artistic One. 00:36:58.176 --> 00:36:58.496 Matt: Interesting. 00:36:58.971 --> 00:37:03.141 Alison: And flirty one, just in terms of like being a romantic about life. 00:37:03.171 --> 00:37:05.721 Like it doesn't necessarily, you know, like, but those are 00:37:05.726 --> 00:37:09.561 probably some of the qualities I would align most with who you are. 00:37:10.401 --> 00:37:13.641 And I, I think that's a good thing to, you know, kind of know yourself 00:37:13.641 --> 00:37:15.861 and choose things that jive well. 00:37:15.976 --> 00:37:18.736 Matt: I mean, that's the beauty of this list is that many of them apply 00:37:18.736 --> 00:37:20.476 to all of us at different times. 00:37:20.476 --> 00:37:20.896 Right. 00:37:21.076 --> 00:37:22.666 I have been The Hot Mess Express. 00:37:22.906 --> 00:37:27.196 Uh, we all have been, um, there's some that I have never been. 00:37:27.456 --> 00:37:30.546 I don't think I've ever been much of an Oracle. 00:37:31.356 --> 00:37:32.136 Well, that's not true. 00:37:32.136 --> 00:37:32.466 Maybe I 00:37:32.526 --> 00:37:33.006 Alison: I don't. 00:37:33.006 --> 00:37:35.766 Yeah, I, I come to you for advice all the time. 00:37:36.156 --> 00:37:36.756 Matt: That's true. 00:37:36.816 --> 00:37:38.376 Maybe not The Fanatic. 00:37:38.376 --> 00:37:40.026 That might be the one where I don't. 00:37:40.686 --> 00:37:42.606 I'm not, I'm not a good fanatic. 00:37:42.636 --> 00:37:44.316 I'm a fan, but I'm never. 00:37:44.558 --> 00:37:48.908 I never take it to the level that sometimes you need to go and 00:37:48.908 --> 00:37:50.078 definitely not The Party Animal. 00:37:50.528 --> 00:37:54.278 I've never been that, but what's The Eeyore again? 00:37:54.983 --> 00:37:59.543 Alison: Uh, the pessimist, the negative one, I, I feel like every friend group has 00:37:59.833 --> 00:38:00.308 Matt: do 00:38:00.593 --> 00:38:06.173 Alison: And a Hot Mess Express because I think that those types are pulled 00:38:06.178 --> 00:38:07.793 into the orbit of everybody else. 00:38:07.798 --> 00:38:09.353 They know that they need the balance. 00:38:09.353 --> 00:38:11.243 They know that they need the flip side of the coin. 00:38:11.243 --> 00:38:13.058 And so everybody has them, everybody loves them. 00:38:13.058 --> 00:38:14.408 They're endearing in many ways. 00:38:14.408 --> 00:38:17.798 And in other ways, you just roll your eyes and go, oh geez, here they go. 00:38:17.798 --> 00:38:18.368 Again. 00:38:18.608 --> 00:38:22.208 I, I have definitely been The Hot Mess Express and still might 00:38:22.208 --> 00:38:23.858 be in some of my friend groups. 00:38:23.948 --> 00:38:24.188 We'll see. 00:38:24.983 --> 00:38:25.283 Matt: Okay. 00:38:25.283 --> 00:38:26.213 So what are your four. 00:38:26.858 --> 00:38:30.338 Alison: So I think that my four would be, uh, definitely The Oracle is the 00:38:30.338 --> 00:38:32.438 first one that I'm absolutely grabbing. 00:38:33.008 --> 00:38:37.088 Um, The Caretaker is the next one that is an easy grab for me. 00:38:37.298 --> 00:38:38.828 From here it gets a lot harder. 00:38:39.398 --> 00:38:40.538 I love The Class Clown. 00:38:40.538 --> 00:38:41.468 you gotta keep it funny. 00:38:41.468 --> 00:38:42.458 You gotta keep it light. 00:38:42.458 --> 00:38:47.454 So I think I'm between The Class Clown, The Artistic One, and honestly 00:38:47.454 --> 00:38:54.504 The Fanatic, cuz I, as a fanatic type, I love making friendships with 00:38:54.504 --> 00:38:56.904 people who are that level with me. 00:38:57.594 --> 00:39:04.344 We are fanatics for D&D together that makes our friendship, you know, so. 00:39:04.524 --> 00:39:04.734 Okay. 00:39:04.734 --> 00:39:05.154 So what did I 00:39:05.244 --> 00:39:05.364 Matt: but 00:39:05.364 --> 00:39:05.544 Alison: So 00:39:05.604 --> 00:39:10.614 Matt: But you are even more of a fanatic than I am about D&D that's. 00:39:10.614 --> 00:39:13.194 You just are able to take it to the level that I 00:39:13.524 --> 00:39:14.274 Alison: The next level. 00:39:15.114 --> 00:39:17.294 Okay, so what did I say for sure? 00:39:17.294 --> 00:39:20.359 I said The Oracle and The Caretaker are the, for sure ones. 00:39:20.389 --> 00:39:20.809 Matt: Mm-hmm. 00:39:22.409 --> 00:39:26.345 Alison: Um, man, I love The Artistic One so much, but it's like, I don't 00:39:26.405 --> 00:39:29.255 need them to function cuz I'm gonna be able to find them anywhere. 00:39:29.765 --> 00:39:34.085 Um, so I guess I will take The Class Clown and The Fanatic. 00:39:34.805 --> 00:39:35.285 Matt: I like it. 00:39:35.435 --> 00:39:35.945 I like it. 00:39:36.935 --> 00:39:41.645 And looking at this list, I just love, I love looking at them and realizing 00:39:42.365 --> 00:39:50.610 what 20 year old, 30 year old Matt would pick and you know what, 50 year 00:39:50.610 --> 00:39:56.130 old Matt picks, because it is very different and I'm proud of myself. 00:39:56.370 --> 00:39:58.080 Not that any of them are bad. 00:39:58.680 --> 00:40:02.520 I, I think it's just growing, but I, I think that 20 year old Matt would, would 00:40:02.520 --> 00:40:06.830 look at my current list and I go, no way, man, you gotta have The Artistic One. 00:40:07.150 --> 00:40:07.650 You gotta. 00:40:07.940 --> 00:40:09.480 Alison: Mm-hmm mm-hmm 00:40:09.605 --> 00:40:13.249 Matt: And ironically, we're usually trying to tie D&D into ADHD talk. 00:40:13.969 --> 00:40:17.149 Let me try to do the opposite this time, cuz it's D&D all 00:40:17.149 --> 00:40:19.669 the time, which I also love. 00:40:19.939 --> 00:40:25.229 I'm not afraid of that, but, uh, I would also say that my current list is based 00:40:25.289 --> 00:40:27.799 on what I've learned about ADHD for me. 00:40:28.939 --> 00:40:32.029 Um, Communications Director being a big one, right? 00:40:32.419 --> 00:40:39.919 Uh, eschewing The Hot Mess Express very much used to be an ADHD thing for me. 00:40:39.979 --> 00:40:40.609 Had to be. 00:40:40.789 --> 00:40:41.299 I don't even know. 00:40:41.304 --> 00:40:42.229 I have no proof of that. 00:40:42.529 --> 00:40:46.909 I'm sure that that's why I was drawn to the chaos and the fun. 00:40:46.909 --> 00:40:47.209 and the, 00:40:47.259 --> 00:40:49.949 Alison: I think The Hot Mess Express is definitely the wild magic sorcerer. 00:40:50.939 --> 00:40:52.949 Just thrives on chaos. 00:40:53.174 --> 00:40:53.714 Matt: Yeah. 00:40:53.804 --> 00:40:54.134 Yeah. 00:40:54.284 --> 00:40:58.566 And it's funny, like we're always gonna see ourselves as one more than 00:40:58.566 --> 00:41:02.413 the other, I don't, I just, and I mean this as a compliment, I don't 00:41:02.413 --> 00:41:05.653 see you as a Hot Mess Express because I've experienced hot mess express 00:41:06.133 --> 00:41:08.293 on a level that is crippling, right. 00:41:08.298 --> 00:41:09.913 Like for me. 00:41:10.558 --> 00:41:10.978 Alison: Mm-hmm 00:41:11.333 --> 00:41:15.323 Matt: And I, I would not in any way say that that is for you, that you 00:41:15.323 --> 00:41:17.123 are not, you are not crippling to me. 00:41:17.768 --> 00:41:18.218 Alison: Oh, good. 00:41:18.478 --> 00:41:18.938 I'm so. 00:41:20.498 --> 00:41:20.978 I love you too. 00:41:25.193 --> 00:41:25.763 Matt: Yeah. 00:41:26.033 --> 00:41:28.433 What a fun freaking thing this is. 00:41:29.273 --> 00:41:31.433 Hey everybody, try this at home. 00:41:31.583 --> 00:41:37.163 Alison: I now want to issue a challenge to every listener, which is to go 00:41:37.703 --> 00:41:41.451 like, don't hyper obsess with this, the way that I do about some things. 00:41:41.451 --> 00:41:46.851 But like either based on what we've shared or just the lightest amount of light 00:41:46.856 --> 00:41:50.871 internet reading, what, what, what class would you be, you know, drawn to play? 00:41:51.471 --> 00:41:56.106 Um, or if you already play, what, class are you most often drawn to play? 00:41:56.540 --> 00:41:59.480 Matt: Uh, well, Alison, this was really great. 00:41:59.630 --> 00:42:01.640 I think, I think this was really fun. 00:42:02.300 --> 00:42:03.740 Alison: I'm so glad we take notes. 00:42:03.740 --> 00:42:05.510 Otherwise we would be very lost week to 00:42:05.510 --> 00:42:06.090 Matt: We'd be lost. 00:42:06.090 --> 00:42:06.500 I know. 00:42:06.560 --> 00:42:07.130 That's okay. 00:42:07.580 --> 00:42:13.284 I like that this was a D&D focused, episode, because, you know, there's, 00:42:13.314 --> 00:42:15.774 there's, there's some people listening that also like that. 00:42:16.704 --> 00:42:21.084 And, and also I think this is fun because that's, that is something that 00:42:21.084 --> 00:42:22.944 we get a lot, which is I don't get it. 00:42:22.944 --> 00:42:24.024 I don't understand what, what is it? 00:42:24.324 --> 00:42:25.134 I don't get this game. 00:42:25.134 --> 00:42:27.024 What I don't understand, you know? 00:42:27.834 --> 00:42:32.539 Uh, and I understand your confusion, like I, as you were talking about, 00:42:32.959 --> 00:42:36.159 you know, reading the descriptions of character classes, I'm like, 00:42:36.389 --> 00:42:39.145 whoa, that does sound complicated. 00:42:39.769 --> 00:42:40.939 Like you have to learn. 00:42:41.059 --> 00:42:43.069 It really is the stuff to study. 00:42:43.619 --> 00:42:45.539 Alison: Listen, if you don't wanna read, if you don't wanna 00:42:45.539 --> 00:42:47.459 Google something and that's fine. 00:42:47.969 --> 00:42:50.109 Get in touch with me and we'll have a fiver. 00:42:50.444 --> 00:42:51.914 Matt: Yes, let's have a fiver. 00:42:52.439 --> 00:42:57.549 Send you a Marco Polo and we will get you up to speed. 00:42:58.182 --> 00:43:02.515 One thing that I've been trying to do is get Lindsay in some way, just into 00:43:02.520 --> 00:43:06.245 this world of role playing just so she gets an idea and it's I bought a 00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:09.225 board game, The Legend of Drizzt. 00:43:10.495 --> 00:43:15.715 And it is like little bits of D&D fourth edition, but still, and, and 00:43:15.715 --> 00:43:19.345 it kind of like, you have to kind of have a character and play a character. 00:43:19.345 --> 00:43:20.515 So I thought, I don't know. 00:43:20.575 --> 00:43:21.535 That could be really fun. 00:43:21.535 --> 00:43:24.355 And then, you know, see, see if she likes that. 00:43:24.610 --> 00:43:25.450 report back on that. 00:43:26.005 --> 00:43:27.805 Alison: Are you gonna loan her a set of of your dice? 00:43:28.735 --> 00:43:28.885 To 00:43:29.275 --> 00:43:30.280 Matt: Sure, yeah, sure. 00:43:30.865 --> 00:43:32.185 Alison: Wow, this is getting serious. 00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:32.720 Matt: I know. 00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:33.160 I know. 00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:33.640 I know. 00:43:33.730 --> 00:43:35.830 I really have all these feelings for her and I just 00:43:35.845 --> 00:43:37.945 Alison: I think you might really like this girl. 00:43:38.140 --> 00:43:39.280 Matt: It's a really big step. 00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:40.090 I don't know, like. 00:43:40.177 --> 00:43:43.637 Alison: Can you imagine if you know, at the altar you've been like and babe, 00:43:43.637 --> 00:43:48.977 on our 10 year anniversary, I'm gonna let you roll with my Dungeons & Dragons 00:43:49.007 --> 00:43:51.467 Matt: Let you use my dice gonna let you 00:43:52.477 --> 00:43:53.597 Alison: Ooh, that sounds... 00:43:54.167 --> 00:43:55.127 Well on that note. 00:43:55.127 --> 00:43:55.487 Thanks for 00:43:55.577 --> 00:43:55.907 Matt: note. 00:43:55.907 --> 00:43:56.687 Yay. 00:43:56.687 --> 00:43:57.737 Thanks everybody! 00:43:57.917 --> 00:43:58.967 We have a Patreon. 00:43:58.972 --> 00:44:01.457 If you would like to join it, it's really fun. 00:44:01.577 --> 00:44:02.387 It's growing. 00:44:02.447 --> 00:44:05.207 We're using that Discord community now. 00:44:05.327 --> 00:44:06.477 It is so fun. 00:44:07.097 --> 00:44:08.627 Alison: Sweet, sweet Discord. 00:44:08.627 --> 00:44:08.867 Yes. 00:44:08.897 --> 00:44:14.777 Shout out to Tey and to Seth and to Fitz who all just dove on 00:44:14.777 --> 00:44:18.197 into, to Discord with us this week and got good and nerdy talking 00:44:18.417 --> 00:44:19.117 Matt: oh man. 00:44:19.517 --> 00:44:20.577 Alison: Foes and otherwise. 00:44:20.577 --> 00:44:21.597 Matt: So fun. 00:44:21.627 --> 00:44:27.317 So, you know, if you wanna do that, we'd, we'd love it, but absolutely no presh. 00:44:28.292 --> 00:44:31.182 And until next week or whenever? 00:44:31.767 --> 00:44:34.077 Alison: Well I'll, I'll see you in a week. 00:44:34.137 --> 00:44:39.057 Uh, and we'll, we'll, we'll talk to all the rest of you guys the week after that. 00:44:39.612 --> 00:44:40.232 Matt: Love it. 00:44:41.982 --> 00:44:42.342 Um, 00:44:42.617 --> 00:44:42.837 Alison: Yay. 00:44:47.987 --> 00:44:48.912 Matt: am the Tech One. 00:44:49.842 --> 00:44:50.622 The Tech One.