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Welcome to make EdTech 100.

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I am LindyHoc Educator, K 12
Ed Tech Advisor, and your host.

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This is a podcast where we keep it real
about what actually works in classrooms.

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No hype, no overwhelm, just practical
strategies, honest stories and

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tools that make a real difference
for teachers and students.

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So come along with me on a
journey to make EdTech 100.

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It is a big day today at Make Ed Tech 100.

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First of all, it is March 27th, which
means it is officially AI Literacy Day.

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Speaker: Secondly, it is the
10th episode of Make Ed Tech 100.

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We made it.

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thank you for sticking around
through the first episodes.

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We're figuring out the technical
things and trying to make your listing

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and experience the best it can be.

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I think I have gone through, no
joke, five pairs of headphones for

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interview episodes, and I'm still
not happy with what I have right now.

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So if you have a headphone
recommendation, that won't cause

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one mic bleed, and two, it has to
provide a great listening and talking.

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Experience.

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I am all ears, pun intended.

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The ones that I have right now,
the first ones caused some mic

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bleed, so I was getting echo.

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And then the ones I have now are
just not a great listening experience

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and listening and talking experience
when I'm interviewing people.

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So that's where we're at.

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Anyway, again, thank you.

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Thank you.

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We made it to episode 10.

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We're figuring it out.

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Thanks for listening and sticking around.

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However, that is not what today is about
because today is National AI Literacy Day.

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So question number one is AI
literacy a tech check or a tech rec?

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I do this to some of my guests,
so I have to do it to myself.

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If you followed any of my
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traveling the country literally.

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Preaching.

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Literally traveling and preaching
the importance of AI literacy.

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AI literacy is a giant tech
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my jam to talk about this.

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I want to spend AI Literacy day
talking about something else.

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I have been traveling in the country
preaching something else, but yet related,

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and that is the research on AI literacy.

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The research plus my personal experience
teaching AI to people of all ages is

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what is driving my push to educate and
preach everyone on A, the importance

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of AI literacy, and B, increasing
AI literacy and people of all ages.

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Let's start with a definition,
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with the term AI literacy, and make
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of what we're talking about here.

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There are a lot.

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Of definitions out there, and I
mean like a lot, a lot, a lot.

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But I like to use the definition from
digital promises, AI literacy framework.

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It says the knowledge and skills that
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use, and evaluate AI systems and tools
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in an increasingly digital world.

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I like this definition because
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understand, use, and evaluate.

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It's really easy to remember, and
they have this really great graphic

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that shows how all three of those
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So if you don't understand ai,
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use it and evaluate it.

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If you don't use ai, you're not
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If you don't know how to evaluate AI
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and understanding it, et cetera.

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There are several studies out there
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and lots and lots of frameworks
that define AI literacy as well.

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In fact, the number of published
definitions doubled between 2022 and 2024.

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I told you, there's a lot
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So like I said, I like
the digital promise.

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AI literacy framework definition, but
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from a research study, there is one study
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and Design Considerations, and its
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that enables individuals to critically
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communicate and collaborate with ai.

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Use AI as a tool online at
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So all the definitions are
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in just using different words.

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Basically, AI literacy is the
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and ethical and responsible AI use.

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What is the research
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This first study I share in almost
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It shows the correlation
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The study calls it propensity to use ai.

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That's what they call AI use essentially.

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And the name of the study is lower
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predicts greater AI receptivity.

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So in not so many words, this study
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increases their propensity to use
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calls it the magical thinking trap.

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And this is a quote
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This lower literacy greater receptivity
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in perceptions of AI's capability.

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Ethicality or feared impact on humanity.

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Instead, this link occurs because
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likely to perceive AI as magical and
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of AI's, execution of tasks that seem
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In other words, when you don't
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it's just a predicting machine.

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It's just predicting the next token.

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This magical thinking results in less
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You think it's the answer
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you can just copy and paste.

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The outputs that it gives you
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and you don't need to edit them.

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One more thing I want to note about this
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education study, so most people are like,
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Nope.

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It's a marketing study that
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professors from different business.

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Schools, higher education
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this really hits home for me.

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The last two sentences of the abstract
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suggest that companies may benefit
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and product development toward
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In addition, efforts to demystify ai AKA.

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Increase their AI literacy may
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So just stop and think
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This means that companies are preying
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get them to buy their stuff.. This
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Especially for our vulnerable
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And if you're teaching at the higher ed,
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the majority of your students still
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Our brains don't fully
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So the majority of college aged kids
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I still consider them to
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Next study is called Chat, GPT in
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insights into AI literacy as well as
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AI to save time on instructional
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That's something I've been
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So in the study, teachers
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One was asked to not use
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use chat GPT for instructional planning.

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So they got a guide that helped
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For this task, the teachers with
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There was no detectable differences
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They weren't just handed chat, GPT and
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time savings increased over time.

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So like the first, I wanna
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, They had like around like a 25% savings
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And then over six months, that time saving
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detectable differences in lesson quality.

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Here's the AI literacy
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So I told you over time
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Their use of AI tools decreased
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not only persisted, but increased.

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So the study says that quote, suggesting
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value and deploy it more selectively.

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So this is really reinforcing
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Increase AI literacy.

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Your use of AI or propensity to use
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start to learn when can it help me?

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When can it not help me?

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This is really reflected in my personal
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Those two studies show the amount
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studies note a troubling gap
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We know students are already using
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without guidance, so whether you.

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Show them how to use it, right?

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Whether you ban block,
open, it doesn't matter.

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The research suggests that if the use is
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AKA copy pasting outputs rather than
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actually improves learning outcomes.

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The question isn't, will they use it,
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Well, I will link to one of
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And by the way, I will link to, , all of
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of summarizing, I'll link to, , a couple
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These studies are focusing
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There are studies that find that
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just teach students about ai.

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It tends to develop transferable
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reflection, and metacognition iteration,
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creativity, and even emotional
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students like multilingual learners.

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In other words, when you increase AI
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You aren't just focusing
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We don't have time for this.

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I get it.

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Those darn standardized tests
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We've got these massive
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These curriculums that aren't
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but the research is telling us
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And my approach, if you follow my
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idea that AI literacy is core and.

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Emerging technologies, technology in
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Humans create technology because they went
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So I kind of take this approach as
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Thing.

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It doesn't need to be that we whittle
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It should be integrated into what we're
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that are showing that it's, they're
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they're not just learning about ai.

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So much of AI literacy is understanding
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iterate and collaborate, for example.

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That is a summary of the why,
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But let's look at what the research
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literacy for the rest of these points,
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summary of the research in general,
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about specific studies, but again, I'll
put those links in the show notes, or

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I'll put links to a few of the studies
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In terms of when most of the research we
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on middle school, high school, higher ed.

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In fact, Stanford just recently, so
Stanford has this AI and education

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hub and it has a repository of over
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They did a summary of it just a few
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800 studies in the repository and
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And one of the main findings of that
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really understudied and no surprise.

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Higher ed is the most studied.

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That is always the case with research.

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By the way, I have a book about online
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there's way more research on online
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there is at the K 12 level, but.

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It makes sense because college professors
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They have much easier access to college
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So what we have to do is we have to
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that is focused on higher ed and kind
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to find this happy medium space.

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Moral of the story, there's not a
ton of research on kind of the win.

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When you get down to elementary age
students, however, there is a framework

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called AI 4K 12 that maps out AI literacy
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And what that framework makes clear
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what is ai, how does it make decisions?

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Why do they build it?

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They are absolutely teachable in
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Don't panic.

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I'll talk more about that in a second.

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So the moral is they typically
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high school to take like a computer
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and steam and elementary school.

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, But really we need to be
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Honestly, as soon as kids start
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understand what you're saying, you
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And the key word there is conversations.

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That does not mean some people,
like I said, don't panic.

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Some people take it to mean
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literacy as soon as possible.

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They, we as humans go
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So your mind goes to, oh my gosh, we're
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Not the case at all.

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So much of AI literacy work that I do
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a lot of it is no tech or very, very
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I'm super excited.

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I did this Kickstarter for this AI
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I haven't got it yet, but I
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And it's basically just a big set
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no tech activities or discussions
starters that you can use with kids

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to start talking about AI literacy.

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So that's the key.

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Start talking, start
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I always use the example.

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Of what we call in my house, the
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I can't say it or else.

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It'll start talking to me because I
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, How many households have
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I don't know what those are called.

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I think they're called, Hey, Google.

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I do not have those, or phones that have
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'cause my phone is right here.

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I have this whole session I do.

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That's all about basically this idea that.

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We don't access technology
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The lady in the corner , has
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The hate Googles, I don't
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You know, I always use an example of
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Your face was highly likely
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technologies to do facial recognition.

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That's not a screen that's not sitting in
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a keyboard and a mouse or a touch screen,
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of the world that we live in.

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And because of that, you really can't
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And we need to have these
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So bottom line on timing, don't
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literacy is only for computer science
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. We've covered the why.

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We've covered the win.

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Let's talk about the how.

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How do we teach AI literacy?

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There is not a ton of research on the
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three things it needs to be hands-on.

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It needs to be iterative, and it works
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rather than siloed into one class.

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So exactly what I said from my experience.

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I'm really focusing on, Hey, you
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You don't need an AI class.

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We need to give teachers the knowledge
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this and integrate it into math.

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And yes, ELA, social studies,
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Technology and ai.

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And it's not just ai.

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We're talking AI today,
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And this is really one of my passions
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to talk about AI literacy because
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society going in positive directions
But AI literacy is just a branch.

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A very big important branch, not
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So it's more than just ai.

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And now pretty much any tech has an
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digital literacy and digital citizenship
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curriculum and every content area.

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Back to the how I said,
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It needs to be hands on.

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This means we're talking about
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problem solving, real world
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ai, not watching videos about ai.

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That doesn't mean that that can be a
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work or digital literacy work in general.

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Is students passively only watching
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No, that can be part of it and often
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I know code.org has some great
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great starting point and sparks the
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That's kind of the, how do we teach
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it's important to talk about teachers
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AI literacy to teachers And surprise,
surprise, no, not surprise at all.

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The research says that technical
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I've been saying this for years,
not just me, me and others that

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work in my instructional technology
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teachers point and click training.

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It can't just be technical training.

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Into their curriculum and instruction
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the research is reflecting this.

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studies on teacher professional
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And they found that schools were
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Were the schools that combined
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with pedagogical reflection.

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Ongoing support and a culture that
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Now I saved the best for last.

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We did the why.

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We did the, when we did the how.

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What's the research saying about those?

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But it's important to know
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it comes to AI and AI literacy

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the consensus is they
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They want to be taught how
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ethically and responsibly.

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There's a lot of studies
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No surprise, they're almost
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We have to take at a K 12 level,
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I don't think there's this cutoff
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sudden like shift as a learner.

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a lot from these higher ed studies.

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, There's a study out there that looked at
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all those studies where they interviewed
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thoughts and their attitudes towards
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little clip from the summary of the study.

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Students are already using generative AI
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quality, ethics, and appropriate use.

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They argue that successful integration
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on giving students explicit guidance,
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expectations so that they can use these
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In other words, students
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are not confident about how to use
when to use what's appropriate use.

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They want very explicit guidance and
very structured activities and very

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clear expectations on how they should
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They want to learn how to use AI
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so let's teach them.

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There you have it.

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We did the why, the when, the how
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what the research so far is saying.

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We also looked at what are students
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this is very much a developing area.

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Very, very, very much so expect
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This is something I am really staying on
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development sessions and advice that
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and educators and ed tech companies.

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my make ed tech 100 moment to leave you
with on this National AI literacy day

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is AI literacy is not a nice to have.

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It's a now to have, the educators
who understand that today

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are the ones who will define.

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What this is gonna look like tomorrow.

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I always say there's a lot of
different, everybody always asks

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like, you know, is AI the existential
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Is.

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It just another tool,
just another technology.

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And my answer is always, there are a lot
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technology and we wanna make sure that
we choose a road with a positive ending.

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And I really, really think that.

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AI literacy is the key to that.

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And again, the only way you are going
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that positive route is to be a part
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what does AI look like in education.

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Happy AI Literacy Day.

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